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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Well, good morning, everybody. My name is Chris.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good to be back. Chris. Jeff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're Jeff. We are the Bible Guys. We want

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<v Speaker 1>to welcome you. Thank you for tuning in and or

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<v Speaker 1>you know watching. Yes, Yes, this big day today is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason is we have a repeat of a

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<v Speaker 2>really cool game that we played.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it says. Actually this the way

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<v Speaker 1>that Desiree wrote it says, she says. A couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago, we introduced a different segment called wrong Answers Only,

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<v Speaker 1>where Jeff had to intentionally give wrong answers to Chris's questions.

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<v Speaker 1>This time, Jeff is going to ask questions and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see how out there Chris can be with his answers. Right, So,

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<v Speaker 1>I think challenge, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I think one of your questions last time was something

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<v Speaker 2>like what's a good gift to give your wife on

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<v Speaker 2>the anniversary or something scale. So that's the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>thing you're looking for. So it's it's an absurd answer

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<v Speaker 2>to it's a terrible answer to a legitimate question.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, which is why it's called wrong answers only

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's so appropriately titled.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, okay, So so you're looking for absurdly wrong answers.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, just so everybody knows, you have

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<v Speaker 1>not even thought about the question.

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<v Speaker 2>No, so I just with questions. Yeah, I'm struggling. So

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<v Speaker 2>here we go. What is the most impressive thing you

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<v Speaker 2>could think to say? Yeah, at dinner with Zach Effron.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever since your car wreck, you look terrible? Oh wow?

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<v Speaker 1>Really yeah. People think he has like botox and like

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<v Speaker 1>he had worked one, but he actually gotten a massive

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<v Speaker 1>car wreck and had had to reconstructive surgery.

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<v Speaker 2>He looks terrib So he looks terrible. So you're telling

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<v Speaker 2>him the truth. But you feel like, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>that's the best answer, the best worst answer you can

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<v Speaker 2>come up with.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I mean, it's the one thing. It's the gaping thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's the it's the elephant in the room.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's true. Uh, if you could add one incredible

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<v Speaker 2>talent to your to your list of talents, what would it.

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<v Speaker 1>Be, huzow, Because I mean, you you're.

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<v Speaker 2>An incredibly talented person. I mean, just loads and loads

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<v Speaker 2>of talent.

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<v Speaker 1>To master the art of doing nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, listen, go like, oh no, he's got that one down.

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<v Speaker 1>I just need more practice.

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<v Speaker 2>Just honey, leave me alone.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm practicing.

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<v Speaker 2>You're breaking my concentration.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to be better than the breakdancers from Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Oh, what would be the the best thing you

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<v Speaker 2>could think to text to our our entire text group

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<v Speaker 2>for fantasy football? Because you are texting like a fiend

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<v Speaker 2>right now to the fantasy football Yeah, everybody sends us.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody sends out a message and is the first one

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<v Speaker 2>to respond.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The best thing you text the fantasy football league

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<v Speaker 1>is this.

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<v Speaker 2>That Jeff's probably gonna win again this year?

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, the NFL is rigged and it doesn't matter anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Okay, this is hard, Yeah it is uh Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And then if you had the name your pet after

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<v Speaker 2>the last thing you ate, what would it be called?

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<v Speaker 1>The squirts? Did you have?

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<v Speaker 2>Did is that? Did you have a pop? Then?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that it?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, those are hard. It's hard to come up

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<v Speaker 2>with good questions along those lines. Do you need another one?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? You know what to be honest with you. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought your answers were great last time, but on the

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<v Speaker 1>receipt being on the receiving end of this, this is

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<v Speaker 1>really tough. They're hard to come up with absurd answers

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<v Speaker 1>that aren't like, yeah, it's just hard.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just difficult. How about this one, what is the

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<v Speaker 2>best if if you had to change your voice to

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<v Speaker 2>a movie character's voice, what's the best movie character voice?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you have to answer with a bad answer.

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<v Speaker 1>See that's like I can't then I can't do an

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<v Speaker 1>impressive movie character's voice. Okay, but that's correct. How about

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<v Speaker 1>uh bueller bueler.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, there you go. Or I would think as far

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<v Speaker 2>as like a terrible movie will be like pee wee herman.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my word, terrible terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that'd be terrible. Okay, it's cherry. Okay. Well, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a hard one. That is really a tough yes segment.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I like you should ask all the questions from now

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<v Speaker 2>on and I'll answer.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't know why my brain didn't work

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<v Speaker 1>to no.

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<v Speaker 2>No. It's a hard one, man, It's I wasn't asking

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<v Speaker 2>great questions either.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yesterday I went to work and we were in

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<v Speaker 1>meetings and I was getting everything good, good for you, good, good, yeah, good,

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<v Speaker 1>But I was I was getting everything wrong. And Trey's like,

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<v Speaker 1>Tree goes, what's the matter with you today? And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I don't know. And then I'd come out

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<v Speaker 1>and then then I'd like somebody would say something, and

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<v Speaker 1>I would like talk for like ten minutes and say no,

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<v Speaker 1>let's no, don't do that. And then Trey goes, I

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<v Speaker 1>was just meaning this, and I was like, oh, He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the matter with you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I don't know. Poor Chris, and you did

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<v Speaker 2>like eat well, listeners, pray for Chris. Mine comes and goes.

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<v Speaker 2>At this age, my.

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<v Speaker 1>Wife bought me gummies for h adhd oh really yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>these little uh natural all natural something apparently not good.

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<v Speaker 1>I needed double I need up my doses gummy. All right.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have been in the Book of Ruth and

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<v Speaker 2>just to really, if you missed last week, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it'd be worth going back and catching up on a

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<v Speaker 2>few of those. It's just a few, I think, what

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<v Speaker 2>three episodes last week. But such a beautiful story of well,

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<v Speaker 2>quite honestly, you're gonna find out today, a beautiful story

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<v Speaker 2>of redemption. So we're gonna look at Ruth chapter four.

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<v Speaker 2>And Ruth has approached the guy that could be what

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<v Speaker 2>is called the Kinsman Redeemer, which we'll talk about. He

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<v Speaker 2>is very interested in her and is trying to find

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<v Speaker 2>a way to marry He's a cousin, a cousin of

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<v Speaker 2>her deceased husband.

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<v Speaker 1>Deceased husband, and so yeah, and so she was she

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<v Speaker 1>was picking corn from his from his brain, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he actually said no, no, no, no, no, come come with me.

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<v Speaker 1>You can have anything you want, right, and he sends

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<v Speaker 1>her home with gifts, with extravagance.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is where we pick up too, and she

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<v Speaker 2>lets him know, Hey, if you asked, I'd probably say

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<v Speaker 2>yes to marriage. Yes, And so he goes, hey, let

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<v Speaker 2>me go sort this out with because there was somebody

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<v Speaker 2>else that was closer to her in the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>marry her. Right, So they had this whole hierarchy. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it as to how people can get married.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyways, so in Ruth chapter four, verse one, it

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<v Speaker 2>says Boaz went to the town gate and took a

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<v Speaker 2>seat there. Just then the family redeemer he had mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>came by. So Boaz called out to him. Come over

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<v Speaker 2>here and sit down, friend, I want to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 2>So they sat down together, and then Boaz called ten

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<v Speaker 2>leaders from the town and asked them to sit as witnesses.

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<v Speaker 2>And Boa said to the family redeemer, you know Naomi

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<v Speaker 2>who came back from Moab. She's selling the land that

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<v Speaker 2>belonged to her relative Alimelech, and I thought I should

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<v Speaker 2>speak to you about it so that you can redeem

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<v Speaker 2>it if you wish. If you want the land, than

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<v Speaker 2>by it here in the presence of these witnesses. But

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't want it, let me know right away,

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<v Speaker 2>because I am next in line to redeem it after you.

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<v Speaker 2>And the man replied, all right, I'll redeem it, and

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<v Speaker 2>then Boas told him, of course, your purchase of the

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<v Speaker 2>land from Naomi also requires that you marry Ruth, the

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<v Speaker 2>Moabite widow. That way she can have children who will

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<v Speaker 2>carry on her husband's name and keep the land in

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<v Speaker 2>the family. Then I can't redeem it, the family redeemer replied,

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<v Speaker 2>because this might endanger my own estate. You redeem the land,

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot do it now. In those days, it was

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<v Speaker 2>custom in Israel for anyone transferring a right of purchase

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<v Speaker 2>to remove his sandal and hand it to the other party,

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<v Speaker 2>and this publicly validated the transactions. So the other family

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<v Speaker 2>redeemer drew off his sandal, as he said to boas

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<v Speaker 2>you by the land. And then Boaz said to the

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<v Speaker 2>elders and to the crowd standing around, you are witnesses

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<v Speaker 2>that today I have bought from Naomi all the property

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<v Speaker 2>of a Limelech Kilian and Malan, and the land I

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<v Speaker 2>have acquired. And with the land I have acquired Ruth,

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<v Speaker 2>the Moabite widow of Malan, to be my wife. This

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<v Speaker 2>way she can have a son to carry on the

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<v Speaker 2>family name of her dead husband, and to inherit the

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<v Speaker 2>family only property here in his hometown. You're all witnesses today.

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<v Speaker 2>Then the elders and all the people standing in the

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<v Speaker 2>gate replied, we are witnesses. May the Lord make this

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<v Speaker 2>woman who is coming into your home like Rachel and Leah,

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<v Speaker 2>from whom all the nation of Israel descended. May you

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<v Speaker 2>prosper at ephra Hath and be famous in Bethlehem. And

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<v Speaker 2>may the Lord give you descendance by this young woman,

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<v Speaker 2>who will be like those of our ancestor Perez, the

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<v Speaker 2>son of Tamar, and Judah. There you go. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>big long speech.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well what weird traditions. Yeah, it was customary for

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<v Speaker 1>him to take off the sandal and hand it to

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<v Speaker 1>the person. Like what is that about? Why the sandal?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And he's like and he's like, you're all witnesses.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm holding the sandal. You see it.

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<v Speaker 2>You see the sand?

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<v Speaker 1>So weird. I'm sure there's a good reason for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there is smart enough to know it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, everything was so symbolic, everything was so you're right there.

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<v Speaker 2>You want you want to ask Ai seriously? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll ask right now. Oh wow, let me see in

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<v Speaker 2>Ruth Wow four, why did Boaz exchange sandals.

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<v Speaker 1>With the Redeemer?

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<v Speaker 2>With the Redeemer? There you go, let's see what it says.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a symbolic act that was customary in ancient

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<v Speaker 2>Israel as a way to confirm and legalize the transfer

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<v Speaker 2>of property or rights. Right, But they don't say one

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<v Speaker 2>in the contact of this story. It just explains what

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<v Speaker 2>he was doing. The sandal likely symbolized walking on or

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<v Speaker 2>owning the land, so giving it away was a way

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<v Speaker 2>of saying, I give up my right to walk on

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<v Speaker 2>this land or to own it, and I give that

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<v Speaker 2>right to you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, AI, isn't that smart? I don't believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty slick. It is pretty slight.

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<v Speaker 2>That makes sense, right, So this act was a public

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<v Speaker 2>legal gesture witnessed by the elders and the people at

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<v Speaker 2>the city gate, making the transaction official and binding.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I figured it had something to do with walking.

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<v Speaker 1>And now it had something to do with like symbolizing

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm not saying I think the AI is always right,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's that's a pretty good if you're listening, you

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't, if you can't make it, fake it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>So that that might be it. Yeah, it's right to

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<v Speaker 1>So so a kinsman redeemer.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, so this is so important.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this, it really is. So when I was looking

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<v Speaker 1>up the Kinsman Redeemer, many of us know that Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>me a reference to Hebrews Chapter two verses eleven through

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<v Speaker 1>redemption to his people. He has ordained his covenant forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Holly and awesome is his name. And there were four

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<v Speaker 1>requirements of a kinsman redeemer. This was the law of

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<v Speaker 1>the kinsman redeemer. If it is listed for qualifications which

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<v Speaker 1>these four qualities. Blah blah blah. Okay. Number one, he

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<v Speaker 1>is going to help or buy out or assist. Number two,

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<v Speaker 1>he must be free himself. Number three he must be

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<v Speaker 1>able to pay the price. And number four he must

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<v Speaker 1>be willing to pay the price. Right, and so Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, buys us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So let me just clarify, this passage didn't use

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<v Speaker 2>the word kinsman redeemer said family and it's the same, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So you and I we grew up with King James.

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<v Speaker 2>And so we think of that theologically with the phrase

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<v Speaker 1>And all the songs that talked about it. That's right, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Kinsman just means family member, right, So this is a

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<v Speaker 2>The idea being so if you don't know, Ruth's husband died,

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<v Speaker 2>she's a Moabite, she's not a Jewish woman. Her husband

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<v Speaker 2>Ruth notices this guy, Boaz, and she starts harvesting the extras,

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<v Speaker 2>the leftovers in his field, which was part of the

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<v Speaker 2>Jewish law at the time to take care of poor people.

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<v Speaker 2>And he noticed her and went, oh, hey, you can

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<v Speaker 2>then Naomi goes, hey, wait a minute, he's in line

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<v Speaker 2>to be your kinsman redeemer. And what that is is

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<v Speaker 2>there was a law, there was no safety net for

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<v Speaker 2>social safety net for widows. Right, And so the law

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<v Speaker 2>opened up this opportunity that a family member of the

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<v Speaker 2>deceased person. So in this situation, Ruth's husband, a family member,

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<v Speaker 2>the next in line, a brother, a cousin, whatever, could

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<v Speaker 2>marry the wife of the deceased man and then provide

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<v Speaker 2>for her, whether that meant that they were going to

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<v Speaker 2>enter into you know, physical relations or not. What he's

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<v Speaker 2>doing is he's bringing in her house to take care

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<v Speaker 2>of her. If she is young enough and does not

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<v Speaker 2>have any children, and he doesn't have any children, then

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<v Speaker 2>he can then they can have children together. And partly

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<v Speaker 2>what that does is continue the line of the other

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<v Speaker 2>family member too. So there's all these things. So the

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<v Speaker 2>requirement then would be first of all, that he would

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<v Speaker 2>be free, that he would be a family member, that

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<v Speaker 2>he would be willing, I mean able, cable to pay

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<v Speaker 2>the price, and that he would be willing to do so.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's exactly what Jesus is. So, you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>are hopeless and without help. There is no safety net

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<v Speaker 2>for us unless somebody rescues us. Right, And that's what

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus did, is he was free, he was free from sin,

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<v Speaker 2>He could pay the price for us when we couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>and he had the ability to and did.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And if you think about it, it's so awesome

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<v Speaker 1>to try to think of all the number of ways,

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<v Speaker 1>the millions of ways. It just seems like mathematically it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably not millions, but the odds are beyond billions and

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<v Speaker 1>trillions and guad brillions that Jesus would be able to

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<v Speaker 1>fulfill every prophecy, right, and over three to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes people say up to four hundred prophecies, but at

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<v Speaker 1>least over three hundred prophecies, and then he has to

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<v Speaker 1>be related. So Jesus then was born of a virgin,

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<v Speaker 1>and he becomes human, and so he becomes one of us.

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<v Speaker 1>Therefore he is one of us. He is a kinsman

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<v Speaker 1>of the human race. God who created us became one

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<v Speaker 1>of us, right, and so he.

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<v Speaker 2>Can qualify because we're all sons of Adam.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's right. Yeah, and he's the second Adam, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. So so yeah. And by the way, this

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<v Speaker 1>law of marrying widows, uh, that carried on from this

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<v Speaker 1>time in Ruth all the way up to Jesus's day. Yes, yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why I remember when they asked they had

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<v Speaker 1>give you a scenario if one guy, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>seven brothers marry or who she married to in heaven,

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<v Speaker 1>remember it. And it's because of this law. Yes, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the law of the Pentitook. It's found in Leviticus where

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<v Speaker 1>it talks about you know, this social safety net that

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<v Speaker 1>you're referring to.

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<v Speaker 2>So then it might seem weird for our listeners. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>he bought land and got ruth. Right, that feels weird

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit to our sensibilities that what in the

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<v Speaker 2>world he's purchasing a wife feels weird. So you have

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<v Speaker 2>to understand the concept of a dowry. You and we've

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<v Speaker 2>done a lot of work around like the Pocots and

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<v Speaker 2>they do a dowry as well. Right, And this also

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<v Speaker 2>social safety net. So he literally, he says, so that

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<v Speaker 2>she'll have an inheritance. So what he's doing is he's

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<v Speaker 2>what he does is before they say I do, he

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<v Speaker 2>paid for her life insurance, his life insurance policy. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what he did. So he went and bought this

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<v Speaker 2>own the land and he died six months later, she

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<v Speaker 2>would have nothing because she wouldn't technically be qualified for

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<v Speaker 2>qualify for it. So she instead. What he did is

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<v Speaker 2>he went and bought her ex or her former husband's land,

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<v Speaker 2>and her brother's in law's land, and her father in

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<v Speaker 2>law's land. He bought it all that let him provide

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<v Speaker 2>that's her retirement, and helped purchase this life insurance policy

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<v Speaker 2>for himself so that Ruth would be taken care of

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<v Speaker 2>for the rest of her life no matter what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a brilliant system. So when you and I

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<v Speaker 2>look at it, he seems to be buying land and

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<v Speaker 2>Ruth gets thrown in on the deal. Or on the

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<v Speaker 2>other hand, at one point there's a sentence in there

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<v Speaker 2>it seems like what he's doing is he's purchasing Ruth.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's not it. It's what he's doing is he's paying

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<v Speaker 2>which again is what Jesus did.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's more about responsibility and the law, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to an exchange of you know, a price.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. But I mean it would be like if a

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<v Speaker 2>the pastor is like, you know, do you, Bob Johnson

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<v Speaker 2>take this woman and he goes yes. But before we

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<v Speaker 2>get to that point, I have I just purchased a

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<v Speaker 2>ten million dollars life insurance policy, right, And so then

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<v Speaker 2>the dad goes, oh, yeah, that sounds good, go ahead, right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's kind of what happened. Is it's making sure that

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<v Speaker 2>she's forever cared for and taken care of, which is

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<v Speaker 2>again what our kinsman redeemer did. This is why the

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<v Speaker 2>Bible talks about Paul. You know what Paul says this

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<v Speaker 2>in Corinthians. He says, don't you know that your body

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<v Speaker 2>is not your own, for you were bought with a price,

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<v Speaker 2>right right. Therefore, glorify about God in your body. And

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<v Speaker 2>there's multiple times where the Bible says, as Christians were

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<v Speaker 2>not our own anymore. That Christ bought us, He paid

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<v Speaker 2>for us with his blood. It's why Jesus said on

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<v Speaker 2>the cross to tell ustite. Right, it's paid in full.

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<v Speaker 2>Is he paid the price, that kinsman, redeemer. But what

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<v Speaker 2>he did is he didn't just buy us for himself.

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<v Speaker 2>He provided for us for the rest of eternity, right right,

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<v Speaker 2>it's really neat. It's a neat picture.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. You know the idea of redeem you know we

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<v Speaker 1>we don't you know, you take one thing and you

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<v Speaker 1>like with a coupon, right, this coupon is equal to that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it has value.

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<v Speaker 2>At Chuck e cheese, you could back when you use. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you redeem the.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure redeem the tickets, yeah, the tickets. Yeah. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know that's what you do. You have to have something

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<v Speaker 1>in order to get something else, and that's something has

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<v Speaker 1>to be value, and that the thing that you hold

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<v Speaker 1>is is valuable. So we we redeem in our lives

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. Sounds like a you know, a word

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<v Speaker 1>that is reserved for a lot of church. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of churches use the word redeem a lot

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of the songs. And I would just say, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we that redeeming is a part of our everyday lives.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just that we probably don't view it that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we were owned by our sin, right, right, So

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<v Speaker 2>our sin. And then Jesus came in as our kinsman redeemer,

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<v Speaker 2>as our family redeemer, and he paid everything necessary because

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<v Speaker 2>he provided for us for the rest of eternity, and

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<v Speaker 2>and the whole story, the whole concept of redemption is

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<v Speaker 2>based and rooted in love. Right, the King loved us

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<v Speaker 2>and paid the price when nobody else could or would,

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<v Speaker 2>and when we didn't have the ability to either.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you remember that old song he paid a debt?

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<v Speaker 1>He did not? Oh yes, he paid a debt? He

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<v Speaker 1>did not. Oh debt I could not pay. I needed someone,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah to wash mys and okay, so yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And I haven't thought of that song in like a

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<v Speaker 1>I know it always comes up in my brain, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all these old songs. Did I ever tell you the

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<v Speaker 1>prank that I paid it with a dowry? Did I ever

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<v Speaker 1>tell you that prank? A good friend of mine had

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<v Speaker 1>a son in law and you know, engaged to his daughter, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so just a future son in law. And she was

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<v Speaker 1>crazy about like Kroger organic produce, and so he fabricated

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<v Speaker 1>a stationary and emailed them and said, this is Kroger.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently all the produce that you've been buying for the

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<v Speaker 1>last five years has not been organic, right, and so

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<v Speaker 1>and so like there was this elaborate prank, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>so she literally called them and like chewed them out,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, what are you talking about? Like it

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<v Speaker 1>was hilarious. And so anyway, she was so upset, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was the one doing the wedding, right, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's like a really rich, fancy kind of

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<v Speaker 1>kind of family, and so she says, I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to think of a way to help me pay him back.

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<v Speaker 1>So I came up with this. I literally went online

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<v Speaker 1>like Canva, you know, and did like this entire packet

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<v Speaker 1>and sent him a packet and said, okay, well, in

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<v Speaker 1>order for me as a pastor of this church that

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<v Speaker 1>they belong to. In order for you to perform this wedding,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to choose which dowry you're going to pay

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<v Speaker 1>to the church. Okay, now listen. And I had like

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<v Speaker 1>three thousand, seven thousand, ten thousand, and twenty five thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>right based on how much he loved her, Bason, how

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<v Speaker 1>much he loved her now and and by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>it was, I did it. I did it up, baby,

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<v Speaker 1>I like the twenty five thousand was like like like

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<v Speaker 1>buying goats, like for our global partners, and like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>buying sewing machines for the women of India. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>like we're adopting children, right, Like I had all like

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<v Speaker 1>attached to something, all the legitimate I wrote it all out,

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<v Speaker 1>everything else, and I sent it to him and he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>what's this? And I called him on the phone. I

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<v Speaker 1>was just the jet. I was totally jet. I said, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>you can choose whatever you want. The three thousand, the

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<v Speaker 1>seven thousand to ten thousand and twenty five thousand, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>But just so you know, I've been doing this for

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<v Speaker 1>like seventeen years, and I don't know a single person

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<v Speaker 1>that has not chosen the twenty five thousand. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>up to you, that's what I said. I go, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's up to you. Yeah, And I was like, so,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll let you know. And then and then literally he

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<v Speaker 1>goes back to the to the to the wife, to

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, and says and says, is this real?

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<v Speaker 1>And and they're like yeah, And they let it play

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<v Speaker 1>out for like for like a month. Well I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a month. It was probably two weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's pretty funny.

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<v Speaker 2>That's crazy. So then they wind up literally, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>wondering how the story end, they live happily ever after. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>this is one of the great love stories of the Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish we could have dug in just a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more, but we read most of it. And then

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<v Speaker 2>they are the great great great great great great great

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<v Speaker 2>great great. I think it's eight generations grandparents of King David.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's either because there's a list there at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the Oh yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, I read it wrong. Perez, I went from

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<v Speaker 2>pez so bo As was the father obd Ovid was

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<v Speaker 2>the father of Jesse. Jesse was the father of David.

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<v Speaker 2>So these are the great These are just the great

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<v Speaker 2>grandparents four generations. Yeah, so, uh, that's really cool because

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<v Speaker 2>Boaz and Ruth become the grand great grandparents of of

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<v Speaker 2>King David. David is the lineage, the line the family,

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<v Speaker 2>the royal line of Jesus, and so ultimately Boaz and

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<v Speaker 2>Ruth are in the lineage of Jesus right now. That's

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<v Speaker 2>also family members. So just a really beautiful story. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>very cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, that is our time, so hopefully we'll see you

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<v Speaker 1>next time on the Bible Gush