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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you are back for another Amazed. Well we're back.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if our listeners are back. I'm assuming

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<v Speaker 2>they're back for another platinum edition of The Bible Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>This week we have Wesley Woods with us. Chris Sarball

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<v Speaker 2>is out of the studio doing some really great missionary

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<v Speaker 2>work down in the Dominican Republic, and so we have

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<v Speaker 2>this great episode where Jesus is I think maybe engaging

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<v Speaker 2>in one of the most beautiful moments in all of

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus ministry today, and so I'm looking forward to getting

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<v Speaker 2>into that. But before we do, Dez has this really

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<v Speaker 2>great episode or segment for us called Who's most Likely?

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<v Speaker 2>I love these, Wesley, These are so fun. So we

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<v Speaker 2>have to take a vote of who's most likely. So

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<v Speaker 2>the first one is who's most likely to talk to

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<v Speaker 2>themselves in public and not notice.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's tough.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I was gonna say I might say me on this,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if you're trying to work through something, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like should I get this or not?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, So when I'm driving, probably two thirds of

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<v Speaker 2>the time I don't have any music going.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's the same with me, and I'm just.

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<v Speaker 2>Thinking, Yeah, I'm working through a problem. I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out a thing, and uh, I have found myself

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<v Speaker 2>before answering myself and looking at somebody and they're just

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<v Speaker 2>looking at me kind of you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, like I didn't ask anything, So then just put.

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<v Speaker 2>Your hand up to your like like you're talking. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so I do. I do on occasion talk to myself,

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<v Speaker 2>So that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I would say that's a tie right there.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, here's the second one. Who's most likely to start

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<v Speaker 2>a story and forget the ending? That's every day for me,

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<v Speaker 2>every day? Yeah, yeah, how about you do?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you ever?

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<v Speaker 1>I've done that before where you start and it's so good,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how like you're ramping up to the ending.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in a meeting the other day and it

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<v Speaker 2>was so important where I was going, and then somebody

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<v Speaker 2>said something and it totally just took me down another

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<v Speaker 2>road and I'm like, how does that even apply?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm going there and suddenly I can't remember the

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<v Speaker 2>application of what I was saying. I was like, what

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<v Speaker 2>was I just talking about Everybody around the room is

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<v Speaker 2>trying to remind me what I was saying. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the worst one. I'm so embarrassed for a storyteller, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>to not remember the ending of their story is terribly embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's most likely to build a blanket for it as

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<v Speaker 2>an adult?

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<v Speaker 1>Now here's the thing I might say you on that one.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what because of your grandson.

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<v Speaker 2>I got grandkids? Yeah yeah, yep, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So actually he has a fort in your backyard.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a big fort. The house we bought. The

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<v Speaker 2>previous owners had this really high end fort customer and

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's his. Yep, Rowan took it over, is his? Now? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's great. Who's most likely to say you too

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<v Speaker 2>when the waiter says enjoy your meal.

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<v Speaker 3>I just did this.

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<v Speaker 1>I literally you know how you give the person at

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<v Speaker 1>the airport to We were just on vacation last week.

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<v Speaker 1>They scan your stuff and you walk down and they

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<v Speaker 1>say you don't have a good flight, And I responded back,

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<v Speaker 1>you two.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's like, well that really wasn't apply.

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<v Speaker 2>But you ever see Brian Reagan when he yeah, he

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<v Speaker 2>does that. Yeah, they're like, I have a good good

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<v Speaker 2>good luck flight, have a nice flight if you ever

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<v Speaker 2>get to fly too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I hope it's a good one. I just did that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's funny. Okay, And then who's most likely to

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<v Speaker 2>google do penguins have knees? At two am?

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<v Speaker 1>Hm?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh see that's tricky. Now. I'm a night owl. All.

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<v Speaker 1>I love staying up late, but normally if I'm staying

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<v Speaker 1>up late, it's either a documentary that I'm watching. Oh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which my wife is like, why are you watching a

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<v Speaker 1>World War two documentary yet?

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<v Speaker 3>One am? Either that?

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<v Speaker 1>Or something just like completely dumb funny, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So you're not You're not. Your grain's not just

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<v Speaker 2>running wild at two am?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, me either. I am a sound asleep at two am. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm usually at eleven o'clock midnight kind of a person. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>when I go to sleep, but I put my head

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<v Speaker 2>on the pillow and I'm out in five minutes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't. Probably not once a month do

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<v Speaker 2>I have an O in the middle of the Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>not hardly ever does it happen? So that's definitely not

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<v Speaker 2>me doing that one, Although I am curious do they

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<v Speaker 2>have knees? I've never even thought of that.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a good question.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's google it right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I can picture the leg and yeah, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, the thin leg and normally if they're have a

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<v Speaker 1>small you know, just a newborn penguin.

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<v Speaker 2>Google says, yes, penguins do have knees.

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<v Speaker 3>So maybe it's further up. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it says although their knees are tucked up inside

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<v Speaker 2>their that's been hidden by feathers. They possess a femur,

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<v Speaker 2>a knee joint, a tibia, and amphibia in each like

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<v Speaker 2>just like humans and other animals. Yea, you just can't

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<v Speaker 2>see it for hidden knees. Yeah, Okay, are they embarrassed?

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<v Speaker 2>They embarrassed about their knees. Yes, So anyways, there you go. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's no wonder people tune in.

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<v Speaker 3>It's right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's uh information that we bring to the table. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's funny. So now you're a documentary guy, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>love document And then do you ever search weird stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like that where it just crosses you might know, not

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<v Speaker 2>not at two am, but just all of a sudden go.

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<v Speaker 1>Not normally normally how it starts a dog, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how the algorithm knows you. So a documentary will come up,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I go down the rabbit trail, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so like I'll watch one and then like, oh, this

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<v Speaker 1>one's interesting about why there's no bridge between you know,

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<v Speaker 1>North America and South America and you know, through the

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<v Speaker 1>dairy and gap. So then now I gotta watch that one.

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<v Speaker 1>So then then you just kind of go down this

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<v Speaker 2>So so a documentary kind of person that usually means

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<v Speaker 2>you're pretty curious kind of is that? Is that the

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<v Speaker 2>I think curiosity is an important trait that we don't

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<v Speaker 2>celebrate enough.

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<v Speaker 3>Right mind order doesn't understand that.

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<v Speaker 1>She comes downstairs and on Saturday, I'm watching like the

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<v Speaker 1>History Channel.

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<v Speaker 3>She's like, Dad, what is this?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Well good?

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I think a good, healthy sense of curiosity helps you

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<v Speaker 2>become a renaissance kind of a man, where you curiosity

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<v Speaker 2>drives you to learn lots of different things, lots of

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<v Speaker 2>different things. I just talked about this, not the brag, Wesley, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I hate the brag. I'm I think humility is one

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<v Speaker 2>of my favorite traits. But I was reading and I like,

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<v Speaker 2>I like to read the headlines. I don't like to

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<v Speaker 2>read articles a lot of times, I know, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want news, uh, news websites or whatever to tell me

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<v Speaker 2>what to think is I rarely watch the news. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want talking heads to tell me what to believe.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't want to commentator to telling you what you

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<v Speaker 2>I can't stand that, and I don't need them to

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<v Speaker 2>tell me. Nine times this hour, the exact same thing

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<v Speaker 2>didn't tell me what to think about it. So usually

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<v Speaker 2>I'll read my news and most of the time it's

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<v Speaker 2>just headlines. Well then I love to just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>cruise through all of the headlines for the day from

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<v Speaker 2>Well then all of a sudden, you know, like Wall

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<v Speaker 2>Street Journal or whatever. I think I was in one

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<v Speaker 2>of the science magazines, come across this thing and it

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<v Speaker 2>was talking about math process to be able to estimate

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<v Speaker 2>whole numbers of things. And I read this thing and

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm like, you're never going to believe what I

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<v Speaker 2>just read about how to figure out estimates better. And

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's looking at me, their eyes are rolling back in

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<v Speaker 2>their head. I was like, this is the most amazing

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<v Speaker 2>thing ever. And I'm not a big math guy, but

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<v Speaker 2>this was a brilliant It's how the British were able

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<v Speaker 2>the Nazis had world War Two, and it's a fabulous

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<v Speaker 2>algorithm that they worked out and it's super simple.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>And everybody's like, you are so weird, right, But there's

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<v Speaker 2>just this weird curiosity. I think that's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>reasons why our buddies, because we wind up talking to

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<v Speaker 2>each other about really weird stuff in the office. Sometimes well, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>talking about I don't know. I was going to say,

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<v Speaker 1>But that was a good transition.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, So I don't even have a bad here's

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<v Speaker 2>the bad transition. I don't have a bad for this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Usually we set a goal to have like the worst

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<v Speaker 2>possible position from the goofy segment into the Bible study part.

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<v Speaker 2>But we are in John chapter eight and we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to read one through eleven, and this is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the sweetest passages. And to be honest with you, there's

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<v Speaker 2>some curiosity for me in this passage that I'm looking

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<v Speaker 2>forward to talking about. In John chapter eight, verse one,

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<v Speaker 2>it says Jesus returned to the Mount of Olives, which

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<v Speaker 2>is just outside the city of Jerusalem. But early the

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<v Speaker 2>next morning he was back again at the temple. A

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<v Speaker 2>crowd soon gathered, and he sat down and taught them.

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<v Speaker 2>As he was speaking the teacher's religious law, and the

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<v Speaker 2>Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in the

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<v Speaker 2>act of adultery, and they put her in front of

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<v Speaker 2>the crowd. Teacher. They said, this woman was caught in

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<v Speaker 2>the act of adultery. The law, Moses says, to stone her,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you say. They were trying to trap him

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<v Speaker 2>into saying something they could use against him, but Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>stooped down and wrote in the dust with his finger,

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<v Speaker 2>and they kept demanding an answer. So he stood up

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<v Speaker 2>again and said, all right, but let the one who

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<v Speaker 2>was never sinned throw the first stone. And then he

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<v Speaker 2>stooped down again and wrote in the dust. When the

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<v Speaker 2>accusers heard this, they slipped away one by one, beginning

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the crowd with a woman. And then Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>your accusers? Didn't even one of them condemn you, No, Lord,

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<v Speaker 2>she said, and Jesus said neither do I go and

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<v Speaker 2>sin no more. Yeah, there you go, man. This is

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<v Speaker 2>one of my favorite stories in the Bible.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a great story.

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<v Speaker 1>So can you imagine how embarrassed this woman was so

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<v Speaker 1>not that they heard that she was an adultery, she

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<v Speaker 1>and they're bringing her before Jesus, this religious leader, to

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<v Speaker 3>So that's just one point that just the gravity of

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<v Speaker 2>I always read this and she was caught in the

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<v Speaker 2>a death penalty issue. But I always wonder, where's the dude. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she was caught in the act. Yeah there were two

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<v Speaker 2>they just bring the woman out right to do this.

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<v Speaker 2>And what they're trying to do is they're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>use it against Jesus, because if Jesus says, well, stoner,

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<v Speaker 2>then the Pharisees would say, where's Jesus mercy and love?

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<v Speaker 2>All he ever talks about love? But now he wants

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<v Speaker 2>he says, disobey the law, what kind of prophet is

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<v Speaker 3>And they were constantly doing this to Jesus.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, So it wasn't about the woman's sin.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, they could have carried they wanted to entrap Jesus.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just an entrapment.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah. It was terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's this really great note in the Life Application

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<v Speaker 2>Study Bible says, imagine the complete humiliation of being in

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<v Speaker 2>angry accusers. They had laid bare her terrible sin for

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<v Speaker 2>nowhere to be seen. Jesus rescued her from her sin

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<v Speaker 2>and her shame and her indignity and death. Jesus knows

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<v Speaker 2>your worst sins, and yet he offers you compassion and mercy.

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<v Speaker 2>His leve will overcome your shame. Don't deny it or despair.

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<v Speaker 2>his forgiveness. I love that that whole thing, right, It's

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<v Speaker 2>just such a beautiful thing that she's completely exposed, so humiliated.

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<v Speaker 2>And Jesus goes watch this, and in the most unbelievable way,

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus solves us. So he stoops down in the dirt.

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<v Speaker 2>He starts drawing in the dirt, gidling doing something.

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<v Speaker 3>And then they.

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<v Speaker 2>Say, so, what do you say we should do? Should

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<v Speaker 2>we stoneer? Yeah, And Jesus sends up and he says, well,

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<v Speaker 2>why don't you that has no sin? Why don't you

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<v Speaker 2>cast the first stone? And then it says he stooped

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<v Speaker 2>down again and wrote in the dust, And man, when

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<v Speaker 2>I get to Heaven, I want to find out what

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<v Speaker 2>he's writing. But I'm hoping he was writing the names

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<v Speaker 2>of those very Pharisees that also had an affair with

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<v Speaker 2>this woman. How great would that is? Like, Yeah, Bob Johnson,

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<v Speaker 2>you were here last last Thursday. Right, that's I would love. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because whatever he was writing in the sand, the oldest guys,

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<v Speaker 2>ones who left first. Yeah, because you know they had

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<v Speaker 2>also the most sins. Yeah, right, yeah, And whatever it

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<v Speaker 2>was Jesus was writing down because he said, whoever has

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<v Speaker 2>the no sin, you go ahead and cast first stone.

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<v Speaker 2>And the old guys start leaving, until finally the youngest

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<v Speaker 2>and it's only Jesus standing there with her.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>An amazing thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And it says that they kept demanding an answer. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the funny, funny part about this. But the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I like about this is they kept demanding an answer.

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<v Speaker 1>And I look at this from a very practical perspective

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<v Speaker 1>as it relates to us. You don't always have to

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<v Speaker 1>give a response to people, no, right when they're demanding

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<v Speaker 3>That's just a side note right there.

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<v Speaker 2>They kept they kept demanding an answer while he's just

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<v Speaker 2>writing in the dirt.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just completely ignoring them at peace as they're pestering

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<v Speaker 2>This is why I hope he's writing names, yeah, because

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<v Speaker 2>they keep he's writing their names. You know, let's say

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<v Speaker 2>there's ten of them, or twelve in there, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>he goes, Bob is here, and Bill is here, and

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<v Speaker 2>Dave is here, and Jim is here. Right, he's right's right?

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<v Speaker 2>Not the names that would be odd. Yeah, And they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you doing? And then they start to demanding.

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<v Speaker 2>They're so confident in their trap.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of the most enjoyable things sometimes when you

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<v Speaker 2>do get somebody trapped is how confident they were until

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<v Speaker 2>they realize their trap. Yeah right, It is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a and so these guys are so confident they keep demanding,

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<v Speaker 2>we got you now, buddy. Yeah, and then he stands

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<v Speaker 2>there he goes, okay, sure you're right, you're right, she's

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be stoned. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, just just

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<v Speaker 2>just make sure the person who's never sinned you throw

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<v Speaker 2>the first one, and then we'll all throw some. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>What I also like about this, Jeff, is the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that and I think we need to be careful here.

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus.

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<v Speaker 1>At no point did he cover over her sin or

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<v Speaker 1>did he say her sin was okay, No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not what Jesus was saying here. He wasn't saying that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what you do, it's not that badger, you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do that there, he was simply showing compassion to

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. So there's nowhere in the Bible that says

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<v Speaker 2>that a woman would would have to be put the

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<v Speaker 2>death on her own for having an affair like this.

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<v Speaker 2>As a matter of fact, in both Leviticus twenty and

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<v Speaker 2>in Deuteronomy twenty or twenty two, it says both the

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<v Speaker 2>man and the woman. So they were already breaking the law.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming to Jesus, this was already a moot point. This

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<v Speaker 2>was already a non prosecutable crime. They were caught in

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<v Speaker 2>the act, but were only bringing the woman. Means we

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<v Speaker 2>can't prosecute this. They knew the law right, but they

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<v Speaker 2>wanted Jesus to put her to death because they would

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<v Speaker 2>have within their culture for for so long they had

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<v Speaker 2>they get the woman, they would execute the woman, leave

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<v Speaker 2>the man free. Men had totally different rights and experiences

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<v Speaker 2>than the women did. And so this is one of

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<v Speaker 2>those moments where Jesus elevates the woman right. He treats

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<v Speaker 2>the woman better than society was treating the woman. He

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<v Speaker 2>does this all throughout his ministry, where he elevates women.

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<v Speaker 2>It was women who brought the first evidence that Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>had resurrected. They they're oftentimes their testimonies weren't even accepted

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<v Speaker 2>in court. Jesus allowed the women to be serving in

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<v Speaker 2>the ministry with him. All these things. He elevated women.

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<v Speaker 2>He did so much ministry for women, He healed women,

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<v Speaker 2>he did so many things. But for their culture at

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<v Speaker 2>the time, women were second rate and expendable. And so

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<v Speaker 2>that's why they regularly broke the law. And Jesus is saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're going to be precise on the law, let's

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<v Speaker 2>be precise on the law. Right, where's the man? He

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<v Speaker 2>didn't bring a man. Okay, well, then if you're without sin,

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<v Speaker 2>they had sinned just against that law. They brought the

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<v Speaker 2>woman and didn't bring the man. That may have been

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<v Speaker 2>the only thing he was saying, yeah, right, And then

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<v Speaker 2>they all realized, oh, wait a minute, we didn't do

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<v Speaker 1>So, Jeff, how can we apply this to our lives.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's someone reading this, and maybe there's someone

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<v Speaker 1>They feel the person is not living right, the person

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<v Speaker 1>is in sin. They're ready to condemn them, they're ready

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<v Speaker 1>to pick up stones. How can we apply this in

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think first of all, Jesus did not condemn her.

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<v Speaker 2>Our sin condemns us. Yeah, right, So the wrong that

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<v Speaker 2>we do is what condemns us in this situation. Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>had the right to be the judge. Yeah, he is

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<v Speaker 2>the judge. The Bible says at the end of time,

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<v Speaker 2>he'll be the judge. But in this moment, he said, hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>they came to accuse you. In the perfection of the law,

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<v Speaker 2>your partner should have been with you. So he said,

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<v Speaker 2>where are your accusers? And she said, I have none, Lord,

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<v Speaker 2>And he said, then I'm not accusing you either.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But then he says, go and sin no more. So

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<v Speaker 2>he acknowledges her sin. He acknowledges that what she did

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<v Speaker 2>was wrong. And this is the difficulty we have. It

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<v Speaker 2>is possible for me to love you and disagree with

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<v Speaker 2>your with your lifestyle. Yeah, it is possible. Right. I

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<v Speaker 2>loved my children when they were growing up in my home,

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<v Speaker 2>but I didn't always approve of their lifestyle. I do

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<v Speaker 2>not have to endorse or affirm sinful lifestyles. And at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time, if I'm like Jesus, I'm also going

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<v Speaker 2>to be loving. Yeah, so I don't need to condemn

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<v Speaker 2>you because of it. Your your own lifestyle condemns.

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<v Speaker 1>You, which oftentimes we as Christians do. Yeah, we will

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<v Speaker 1>beat the person over the head with the Bible, and

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<v Speaker 1>we want to add further condemnation on top of the condemnations.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, it's oftentimes we want to make them feeling yeah

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<v Speaker 2>the page, that's right, yeah, and which Jesus did not do,

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<v Speaker 2>that's right. Yeah, so he does affirm the law. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he says, all right, you right, that is all. But

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<v Speaker 2>then he's really challenging us. A lot of times, I

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<v Speaker 2>think we can rise up above the person that's offended,

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<v Speaker 2>thinking that our sins aren't as bad as their son. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and we forget that my sins put Jesus on the

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<v Speaker 2>cross just like their sins.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's a really good point of how I think

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<v Speaker 1>we have degrees of sin. Yeah, yeah, so my sin, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 3>Bad, but yours.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh your you should be stoned, you should be cast out.

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<v Speaker 1>But mine that was just a little lie.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, you know how we tend to extend

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of grace to ourselves and little grace to others. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 2>because we know what we meant. Yeah, we assumed they

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<v Speaker 2>meant the worst, yes, and we knew that we really

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<v Speaker 2>meant to do the best. But it was just a mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>So usually we don't sin. We make mistakes. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>usually what we do. But they sin horribly. Yeah, these

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<v Speaker 1>I think of like cars speeding that we were near

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<v Speaker 1>a hall road. Cars drive fast all the time. If

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<v Speaker 1>mercy from the police. If someone else goes fast, he's

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<v Speaker 2>So I'll tell you a quick story on this, on

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<v Speaker 2>they started doing damage to each other. Well, one of

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<v Speaker 2>the leaders rose and fired the other one.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, Well, then the.

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<v Speaker 2>Other one winds up losing everything. He lost his home,

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<v Speaker 2>he lost his money, he lost his family, he lost everything,

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<v Speaker 2>lost his reputation. He's not hiable anymore. Yeah, and all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, the guy who did the firing starts

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<v Speaker 2>getting these threatening letters from a terrorist group. We know

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<v Speaker 2>where your kids go to school, all these things.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So the guy that was the boss starts being afraid

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<v Speaker 2>for his life, thinking these terrors not connecting to until

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<v Speaker 2>they kind of discovered maybe the guy who got fired

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<v Speaker 2>was actually the one that was sending these fake things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well then it blows up. They ruin this other guy's reputation.

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<v Speaker 2>It just gets so bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, now maybe that guy whose reputation is ruined

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<v Speaker 2>is willing to just burn the whole thing down like

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<v Speaker 2>Samson just put a whole temple down on top of him.

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<v Speaker 2>So I get called in to try to work out

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<v Speaker 2>some peace because I think these are both good guys.

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<v Speaker 2>They just misbehaved.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So, in talking with the most offended one, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>how do we work for peace? Has Jesus ever forgiven

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<v Speaker 2>you for something worse than this?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I don't need to hear the accusations. I

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<v Speaker 2>know the accusations, and all you want to do is

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<v Speaker 2>keep saying the same accusations. Let's get beyond it. What

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<v Speaker 2>is your motivation is your motivation that you need to

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<v Speaker 2>punish this guy?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that it?

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<v Speaker 2>Because if we won't forgive others, Jesus won't forgive us.

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<v Speaker 2>So then you want to be punished for all of

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<v Speaker 2>your sins that Jesus forgave. He goes no. I said,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, so what is your only option? And he goes,

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<v Speaker 2>I need to forgive, And I said, not just forgive.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus said, pray for him and do good to him.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, you need to use your power to find

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<v Speaker 2>a way to do good too. He's like, I will.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm willing to work that out, right. So then the

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<v Speaker 2>other guy, I went to him and I said, let's say,

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<v Speaker 2>because he's denying that he sent those letters, but we

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<v Speaker 2>have video evidence. Yeah, So I said, let's let me

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<v Speaker 2>just set that aside and say that was your worst

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<v Speaker 2>decision on your worst day because you were desperate, or

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<v Speaker 2>it's the most extraordinary coincidence in the history of extraordinary coincidence.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be that, right, But I said, let me

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<v Speaker 2>set both of those aside, and let me say love

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<v Speaker 2>keeps no record of wrongs. So because I love you,

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<v Speaker 2>if you will allow me to set those aside and

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<v Speaker 2>say those are your worst day I can forgive you

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<v Speaker 2>for your worst day. I'm going to invite our friend

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<v Speaker 2>to forgive you for your worst day. That broke his heart.

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<v Speaker 2>In that moment before we were done, I asked him,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, would I want to pray for you, but

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<v Speaker 2>would you pray for me? And he said yes. And

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<v Speaker 2>he says first sentence, Father, forgive me. I'm sorry for

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<v Speaker 2>the damage I've caused. So for three years he's denied

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<v Speaker 2>being any part of this, but in the moment, I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm willing to set it aside and forgive. I'm believing

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<v Speaker 2>you did it, but I think it was your worst day,

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<v Speaker 2>and I choose to forgive you even on your worst day. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>everything changed right now. He didn't offend me. And so

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<v Speaker 2>we're right on the verge of putting these two men

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<v Speaker 2>back together and fixing this. And what a great test.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what Jesus say. Remember when we talked Matthew

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen that maybe we can restore a brother. These guys

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<v Speaker 2>were great friends. How do we bring this back? And

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I don't know that they'll ever be best friends again,

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<v Speaker 2>but how can we get them back to functioning like good,

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<v Speaker 2>healthy brothers in peace. It's going to require that we

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<v Speaker 2>also choose not to prosecute, right, choose to forgive. It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean that you're saying it wasn't a bad sin.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus says, go and sin no more. He said, lady,

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<v Speaker 2>that was a sin. Don't do it anymore. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>possible for me to love you and not affirm your

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<v Speaker 2>lifestyle and encourage you to change and not sin anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>That's okay, but I have to do it from a

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<v Speaker 2>position of love and not a position of judgmentalism. The

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<v Speaker 2>Pharisees came. They wanted to correct the bad behavior too,

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<v Speaker 2>but they want to kill her. Yeah, right, And Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>instead extends forgiveness. And he does the same thing for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, thank god he does.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that's good.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there we go. Let's wrap it up there. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>there's probably somebody in your life that you need to

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<v Speaker 2>encourage to go and sin no more. And at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time, maybe it's time for us to drop the

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<v Speaker 2>rocks in our hands and we don't have to execute

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<v Speaker 2>the people who've offended us so badly. So good, what

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<v Speaker 2>a powerful one. Well, I look forward to seeing you

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<v Speaker 2>again tomorrow here on the Bible.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys,