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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Hey, Chris, good morning, good morning. We talked

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<v Speaker 1>the whole night, good morning, good morning to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>I like how you went the whole time. That's great.

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<v Speaker 3>That was that was a percussion right there.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it's so happy. Yeah, we're so happy when you

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<v Speaker 2>sing us.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's oh we are.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's everybody's second favorite. It's not true segment yet

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<v Speaker 2>at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, but I do like to sing good morning because,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, you know why I like kids?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, you're kidding me all my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, the the reason why I like that little segment

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<v Speaker 1>is because I love that movie. We watched that movie

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<v Speaker 1>time and time all the time, all the time. My

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<v Speaker 1>son started dating somebody, uh you know, uh two girlfriends ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and and said something about.

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<v Speaker 3>Seeing in the Rain.

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<v Speaker 1>And she says, what are you talking about, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she's all like twenty five years old, riever, And he says,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you talking You've never seen it. So they

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<v Speaker 1>sat down. One of the first things he did is

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<v Speaker 1>he said, you have to see this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>And then she hated it, and so they.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't need it, right right, right, she loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>So do your kids like it when you talk about

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<v Speaker 2>them on a podcast from stage?

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<v Speaker 1>You're so used to it that I honestly don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it is a negative, Nora positive.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So both of my sons will go, I can't believe

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<v Speaker 2>you told that story. Right, So they're not mad at me.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just like, oh my gosh, dad. Right, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>my daughter loves it. So I dropped her off today, right,

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<v Speaker 2>We were sharing a car today, so I dropped her

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<v Speaker 2>off at work before I came here. And she's twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>and she goes, hey, you can say anything about me

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<v Speaker 2>today on the podcast, And I said, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Come on, it's been a while, right, yeah, okay, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>so you talked about Jenna, about her talking about you

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<v Speaker 4>talking about it, you're talking about it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's funny, that's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Okay, Today we're moving into a segment that

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<v Speaker 1>desert is prepared.

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<v Speaker 3>For us cold would you rather? Okay, there's there's the.

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<v Speaker 1>New slogan for would you rather, just screaming would you rather?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So we're just gonna pick pick one. So here

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<v Speaker 3>we go.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you rather sip hot cocoa by a cozy fire

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<v Speaker 2>every evening?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Or spend the day skiing down a mountain?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I do like skiing, but one requires efforts and one

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<v Speaker 1>is super lazy, and I just I love doing nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>You love doing nothing and coco buy a cozy fire? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it is nice. Scheme requires cold too, Yeah, wow, right,

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<v Speaker 2>except yourself you're kind of sweaty. It takes a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of work. So you know, I've never snow skied.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, ever water, I think you've passed your prime.

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<v Speaker 2>Buddy, I lived, I lived on water skis, but I

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<v Speaker 2>never snow skied.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you may. You may have missed the window there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well hey, which, by the way, I'm totally kidding. Fifty

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<v Speaker 1>three is not missing the window. But look at this.

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<v Speaker 1>It says, would you rather sit pot cocoa by a

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<v Speaker 1>fire every evening or spend one day skiing down the mountain?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Or is it meaning the day?

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<v Speaker 3>The day? Or is it meaning the day?

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<v Speaker 2>She doesn't say every day every day? That is singular.

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<v Speaker 3>That's weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Then yeah, then you're committing to every evening with hot

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<v Speaker 1>cocoa or one day skiing all of a sudden that

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<v Speaker 1>makes it like weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Decision like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think. I think my only decision is I

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<v Speaker 2>have to sit by the fire drinking hot cocoa because

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<v Speaker 2>I've never skied before. But I could try it for

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<v Speaker 2>one day.

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<v Speaker 3>That doesn't mean you can't try it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I want to try it. I want to try skiing.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay for one day, you break your break your knee.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>So number two, would you rather have your holiday lights

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<v Speaker 1>up all year long?

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<v Speaker 3>No thank you? Or never have to untangle them again?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, of course i'dn't want to never have to untangle

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<v Speaker 2>them again.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you literally saying you're that person where you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to leave your Christmas lights up in July?

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't say I have to leave them up. These

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<v Speaker 2>are two different opportunities.

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<v Speaker 3>It says have your holiday lights up all year long, or.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't say or leave them up. She's giving us

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<v Speaker 2>two choices.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I see what you're saying. You're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>The way the sentence structure is, that's that little lawyer

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<v Speaker 2>in my head again. The way the sentence structure is

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<v Speaker 2>is she's giving us two choices. It's not one or

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<v Speaker 2>the other.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, by the way, that's weird too, because I know

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<v Speaker 1>it's a negative in the first one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, she's writing it like it's a positive.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, would you rather? Do you think it'd be great

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<v Speaker 2>to keep your Christmas lights up?

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's like, not have to hang them.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to give you one of two choices. You

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<v Speaker 2>can leave your Christmas lights up forever, yay, or you

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<v Speaker 2>can never have to untangle your your Christmas lights again.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, but I read the first as a massive

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<v Speaker 1>negative because then you're the jerk in the sub with

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas lights in July, which we have one of those.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, we have a guy you know who

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<v Speaker 3>you are.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, they weren't just like like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>those like really nice lights along the trim, but she

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you can't see those. These were I'm not even

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<v Speaker 1>kidding you, icic no icicle lights. They kind of hang

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<v Speaker 1>down like this. And then here's what's even worse. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to be dramatic here they weren't hung correctly. They

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<v Speaker 1>droop so so droopy icicle lights all the way year long.

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<v Speaker 3>I literally.

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<v Speaker 1>That should be an episode of What makes Chris Mad? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe save it I'm gonna talk about this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Do we have that this week? Oh? It's coming up

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<v Speaker 2>this Friday, is it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you're gonna hear that again, folks.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, he's gonna be irate.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna I'm gonna expand on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Would you rather be a professional ice skater or

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<v Speaker 2>a champion snowboarder for the winter season? Well, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to be a champion snowboarder for the summer season.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, professional ice skater or a champion snowboarder. Between those two,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I would rather be a professional ice skater.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you'd say that. I was gonna say snowboarder.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, well you've never even skied.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think you liked the idea of wearing

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<v Speaker 2>tight shiny clothes.

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<v Speaker 3>You spinning will Pharaoh? Played that, played that one?

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever it was.

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<v Speaker 3>No, here's the reason why.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the costumes. That's why.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, really, that's where you.

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<v Speaker 2>Went to the singing and dancing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the secret.

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<v Speaker 2>We know, we know it's there, and it's the singing

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<v Speaker 2>and dancing. We know, we know all about you.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it is it is way more impressive in my mind,

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<v Speaker 1>to watch the performance of a professional ice skater than

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<v Speaker 1>it is to watch somebody navigate a hill like like

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, oh look another swish, Oh look.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I think the professional snowboarders are unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course they are, but they didn't say tricks.

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<v Speaker 2>I get so when the snowboarders are going, I sit

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<v Speaker 2>down and watch the snowboarders, and I get drug in

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<v Speaker 2>to watch the ice skating by the females in my family.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute, so anyways, we need to move on.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, but now, tricks are one thing. Snowboarders who

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<v Speaker 1>do tricks on pipes and things like half pipes. That'd

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<v Speaker 1>be I would choose.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm a champion snowboarder, so I can do all tricks.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to do a right fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Number four okay, would you rather have a winter holiday

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<v Speaker 1>every year in a tropical destination or somewhere cold with

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<v Speaker 1>tons of snow and winter activities? Let me think which one.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me pray about this one. It would have to

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<v Speaker 1>be the number one topical destination. Yes, oh, I would

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<v Speaker 1>rather have a winter holiday with lots of snow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not mebe I love it now. I want the

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<v Speaker 2>snow to go away three days after Christmas right by

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<v Speaker 2>New Year. I wish all the snow was gone, but

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<v Speaker 2>for that little stretch between like Thanksgiving and Christmas. I

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<v Speaker 2>love the snow on the trees.

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<v Speaker 1>And but they say, they say a winter holiday and

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<v Speaker 1>a tropical destination. So it's assuming that you're having to

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<v Speaker 1>says winter activities.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a winter holiday, Yeah, it's holiday. Holiday.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the word tons of snow and winter activities the holiday.

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<v Speaker 2>For the holiday? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So for like,

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<v Speaker 2>let's pick a winter holiday. How about Christmas? I would

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<v Speaker 2>like to have way more snow and fewer palm trees

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<v Speaker 2>for Christmas holidays.

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<v Speaker 1>You do realize, lawyer, that what this is saying, is

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<v Speaker 1>it saying, would you rather have be somewhere where it's

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<v Speaker 1>completely tropical and you have to celebrate a winter holiday

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<v Speaker 1>or somewhere where you have to endure the entire season

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<v Speaker 1>of tons of snow?

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<v Speaker 2>That's what it's not the entire season, it's the holiday.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, no, the holiday refers to having to put

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<v Speaker 1>up with a winter holiday in a tropical season, That's

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<v Speaker 1>what it's meaning.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you're saying that because she didn't say winter high

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<v Speaker 2>holiday somewhere cold. Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm not reading it

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<v Speaker 2>that way, but that's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, the point is I would I went down

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<v Speaker 1>a year ago and I skipped Christmas and I did

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas with the Cranks, and I did Disney and Universal

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<v Speaker 1>with my family in Saint Pete with with with where

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<v Speaker 1>where my daughter lives. We only went down for a week.

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<v Speaker 1>We only did Universal for a day, Disney for a day.

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<v Speaker 1>But I got to tell you something.

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<v Speaker 3>I loved it. I love Disney.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I get it. I would rather have it be

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<v Speaker 2>the other way. I love Okay, would you rather be

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<v Speaker 2>able to create winter wonderland scenes wherever you go? Or

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<v Speaker 2>control how much snowfalls in your yard for the perfect snowman?

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<v Speaker 1>Building conditions such a random question, create winter wonderland scenes

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<v Speaker 1>wherever you go?

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, how does that even look?

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<v Speaker 2>Your yard for the yard. I'd want the first one

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, you'd be a magical wizard. People be like

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<v Speaker 3>dude again right literally just like it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you'd be like Gandolf with the fireworks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you could just do anything you want everywhere and

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<v Speaker 1>it'd be amazing, this amazing like it. Yeah, I would

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<v Speaker 1>choose the first one too. Okay, yep, well that was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you got a couple of those answers right, Good.

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<v Speaker 3>Job, Yeah, thanks, Jeff, appreciate it. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of getting some things right, Solomon got a lot

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<v Speaker 4>Ooh nice, why sayings is what he likes to call them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and I would say that those are right right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So its in Proverbs chapter fourteen. We're continuing on

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<v Speaker 2>and he says, a wise woman builds her home, but

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<v Speaker 2>Those who follow the right path fear the Lord. Those

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<v Speaker 2>who take the wrong path despise him. A fool's talk

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<v Speaker 2>becomes a rod that beats him. But the words of

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<v Speaker 2>the wires keep them safe. Without oxen, a stable stays clean,

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<v Speaker 2>honest witness does not lie, A false witness breathes lies.

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<v Speaker 2>A mocker seeks wisdom and never finds it. But knowledge

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<v Speaker 2>comes easily to those with understanding. Stay away from fools,

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<v Speaker 2>for you won't find knowledge in their lips. The prudent

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<v Speaker 2>understands where they're going, but fools deceive themselves. Fools make

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<v Speaker 2>Each heart knows its own bitterness, and no one else

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<v Speaker 2>will be destroyed, but the tent of the godly will flourish.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a path before each person that seems right,

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<v Speaker 2>but it ends in death. Laughter can conceal a heavy heart,

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<v Speaker 2>but when the laughter ends, the grief remains. Backsliders get

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<v Speaker 2>what they deserve. Good people receive their reward. Only simpletons

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<v Speaker 2>believe everything they're told. The prudent carefully consider their stef

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<v Speaker 2>is he implying that not everything on the internet is true. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>my goodness. The wise are cautious and avoid danger. Fools

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<v Speaker 2>plunge ahead with reckless confidence. Short tempered people do foolish things,

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<v Speaker 2>and schemers are hated. Simpletons are clothed with foolishness, but

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<v Speaker 2>the prudent are crowned with knowledge. Evil people will bow

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<v Speaker 2>before good people. The wicked will bow at the gates

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<v Speaker 2>of the godly. The poor are despised even by their neighbors,

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<v Speaker 2>while the rich have many friends. Quote unquote, it is

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<v Speaker 2>a sin to belittle one's neighbor. Blessed are those who

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<v Speaker 2>help the poor. If you plan to do evil, you

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<v Speaker 2>will be lost. If you plan to do good, you

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<v Speaker 2>will receive unfailing love and faithfulness. Work brings profit, but

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<v Speaker 2>mere talk leads to poverty. Wealth is a crown for

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<v Speaker 2>the wise. The effort of fools yields only foolishness. A

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<v Speaker 2>truthful witness saves lives lives, but a false witness is

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<v Speaker 2>a traitor. Those who fear the Lord are secure He

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<v Speaker 2>will be a refuge for their children. Fear of the

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<v Speaker 2>Lord is a life giving fountain. It offers escape from

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<v Speaker 2>the snares of death. A growing population is a king's glory.

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<v Speaker 2>A prince without subjects has nothing. People with understanding control

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<v Speaker 2>their anger. A hot temper shows great foolishness. A peaceful

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<v Speaker 2>heart leads to a healthy body. Jealousy is like cancer

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<v Speaker 2>in the bones. I love that one. Those who oppress

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<v Speaker 2>the poor insalt their maker, but helping the poor honors him.

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<v Speaker 2>The wicked are crushed by disaster, but the godly have

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<v Speaker 2>a refuge when they die. Wisdom is enshrined in an

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<v Speaker 2>understanding heart. Wisdom is not found among fools. Godliness makes

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<v Speaker 2>a nation great, but sin is a disgrace to any people.

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<v Speaker 2>A king rejoices in wise servants, but is angry with

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<v Speaker 2>those who disgrace him.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, there you go. Yeah, So thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>verses of nuggets of wisdom.

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<v Speaker 2>I like to call them wise sayings. That's what they are.

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<v Speaker 2>They're they're wise wise sayings.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, good job, Jeff, that's that's accurate. Hey guy, let

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<v Speaker 1>me write this down.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, why w I s?

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<v Speaker 3>I slow down, professor.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you said in verse number fifteen, only simpletons

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<v Speaker 1>believe everything they're told, and you said, are they saying

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<v Speaker 1>everything on the internet, it's not true.

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say, or CNN. Yeah yeah, right, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>pretty much. It's it's so funny, how it's so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>How my father, who is eighty he's born in thirty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's eighty five, right, And I was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>tell him, uh, and again I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Trying to get political at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I wasn't trying I was trying to avoid that

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<v Speaker 1>whole you know, everything else. I was just simply trying

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<v Speaker 1>to tell him that it's interesting how I've been you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been to Cuba, right, I've been there four times, so,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I used to think that Cuba was so

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<v Speaker 1>radically different than America and then and now I'm like, huh,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I know that obviously we're leap years away

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<v Speaker 1>from uh, you know, Cuba, but I never thought that

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<v Speaker 1>that people would, you know, just sort of control the

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<v Speaker 1>information that they wanted to give to their people, which

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<v Speaker 1>is exactly what you know, Castro was famous for doing,

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<v Speaker 1>just controlling the information that came in. And I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I do believe some of that. You know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>a conspiracy theorist to the maximum degree, right, but I

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<v Speaker 1>do believe that some of that happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, You're talking about this between the Cuban government the

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<v Speaker 2>Cuban people. We had a belief that the Cuban people

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<v Speaker 2>hated us, right, Is that what you're saying. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying times the Cuban people are really nice people.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, government know what I'm saying is I never

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<v Speaker 1>thought that America would behave like Cubans. I'm saying, like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, like I thought we had.

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<v Speaker 2>Like oh control, complete government control.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, completely, Like I thought the news was completely impartial, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And now now I'm understanding that, like, oh, there is

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<v Speaker 1>an agenda. You know, people in power, they give you

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<v Speaker 1>Now again it's not it's not anywhere near. But I

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<v Speaker 4>I said, yeah, I said that colling of information, controlling

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I said, yeah. I said, we're a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more like Cuban than I than I want us

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<v Speaker 1>to be. And my dad says, what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, And so he started naming all these

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<v Speaker 1>different things, and he couldn't wrap his mind around the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that that, you know, that the people who in

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<v Speaker 1>the news could give us the news that they wanted

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<v Speaker 1>us to give us, and so he was just he

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely refused to believe that. And I said, and so

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<v Speaker 1>he started naming things, and I said so, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was just thinking of this verse. Only simpletons believe everything

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<v Speaker 1>they're told, right, I mean, I mean, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I love my dad, but I'm like, you got to

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<v Speaker 1>it's algorithms, right, But he has no clue, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Different generation, Yeah, different generation.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is I'm gonna My wife already knows exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm going to say, because as you were reading this,

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<v Speaker 3>So she already knows that.

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<v Speaker 1>Proverbs fourteen, verse number four, when it talks about this

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of my favorite verses.

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<v Speaker 1>But you need a strong ox for the large harvest.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is it one of your favorite verses? Why is

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<v Speaker 1>it one of your favorite.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead and say what you're going to say, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I'll tell you.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. So my youth pastor said that that was a

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<v Speaker 2>Did Iver say this?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>So he said, uh, without auction, the stable stays clean.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, you know what he goes without teenagers. Your

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<v Speaker 1>carpet stays clean without teenagers. He said, teenagers are messy,

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<v Speaker 1>and when you have like a really thriving youth ministry

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<v Speaker 3>And our church was a smaller church. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>So he said, you know, without teenagers, he said, everything

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<v Speaker 1>ceiling from a gay right, he's you know, he says,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, without without ox, and the crib is clean.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, imagine in a farm. He said, you had

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<v Speaker 1>the stall. He said, it'd be perfect, and you would

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<v Speaker 1>have a nice, perfect stall. He said, but much increase

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<v Speaker 1>comes from the strength of the ox. And he talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the driving force of a youth ministry, because when

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<v Speaker 1>a youth ministry is on fire and it's strong and

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<v Speaker 1>it's going forward, he said, yeah, it's messy, but how

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<v Speaker 1>much can it do for the Kingdom of God? Because

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<v Speaker 1>teenagers on fire from God can light the world on fire.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's essentially my view of it as well, only

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking of it as the big picture, the

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<v Speaker 2>whole ministry in general. Anything worth doing is probably going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a little messy, right, And so there there's

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<v Speaker 2>and and and you and I know people who tend

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<v Speaker 2>is manageable, right, to keep it neat and buttoned up

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<v Speaker 2>just right, all this kind of stuff. And I'm almost

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<v Speaker 2>exactly the opposite. I'm gonna take any idea and maximize

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<v Speaker 2>it out as far as possible. Well, that's less. Management's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be messier, for sure, but that large harvest comes

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<v Speaker 2>because we're maximizing. And so you know, it's it's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>everything worth doing in my world gets a little messy,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's okay. Just we'll clean up the mess keep going. Otherwise,

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<v Speaker 2>the best thing to do is sell the ox and

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<v Speaker 2>just you can do it all by hand, right right,

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<v Speaker 2>And so that ox is what is the force multiplier.

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<v Speaker 2>So for those of you that are in business, and

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<v Speaker 2>if you've ever read anything like for instance, Special Forces,

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<v Speaker 2>they were out training. It's kind of neat. Right, So

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<v Speaker 2>train our special forces. I love that stuff. And they

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<v Speaker 2>talk about this idea of having a force multiplier. So

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<v Speaker 2>how do we multiply the impact of the soldiers that

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<v Speaker 2>we have to overcome the impact of soldiers they have.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's going to be through vehicles, it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be through superior weapons, it's going to be through superior training, whatever. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So the Oxen here is the force multiplier. So you

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<v Speaker 2>can go do the work. If you want to go ahead,

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<v Speaker 2>get your little hoe out, get your little pick axe out,

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<v Speaker 2>smash up your ground. If you want to go ahead,

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<v Speaker 2>get get out your little grinder and try to smash

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<v Speaker 2>up all of the wheat that you want to and

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to get you know, after a long day

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<v Speaker 2>of hard work, you're going to get a little bushel

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<v Speaker 2>of flour. Great, Or you can go ahead and pay

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<v Speaker 2>the price of having a mess maker that is also

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<v Speaker 2>a force multiplier that then we'll be able to let

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<v Speaker 2>you do bushels and bushels of fly today instead of

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<v Speaker 2>a bushel of flower through hard work of your own, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Or you can do that force multiplier and you can

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<v Speaker 2>plow the entire field today and the field next to

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<v Speaker 2>it instead of just trying to carve out this a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit with your own pickaxe. Right. So I'm constantly

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<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out I think the best leaders don't

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<v Speaker 2>just try to figure out how to maximize their work.

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<v Speaker 2>They're trying to figure out how to find the force

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<v Speaker 2>multipliers that will take you way further. There's the mess

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<v Speaker 2>in that, the management of that. You hire highly talented people,

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<v Speaker 2>there's always I've said this before. You know, genius has

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<v Speaker 2>an equal and opposite corresponding deficit always, and so the

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<v Speaker 2>more genius you hire, the more trouble you're also hiring

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<v Speaker 2>on the other side of that. Right, There's always that difficulty.

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<v Speaker 2>But those kind of people become great force multipliers. You

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<v Speaker 2>just have to be willing to clean up the pen

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<v Speaker 2>every once in a while.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, Yeah, I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know what I thought of immediately is that

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of World War Two, as the Germans

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<v Speaker 1>were losing the war, they wanted therefore multiplier to be

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<v Speaker 1>in the research that they were doing with this poisonous

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<v Speaker 1>gas until Wonder Woman along. Oh no, and then uh

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<v Speaker 1>and then finally took out you know, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the evil scientist.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't think that's what he's talking about here.

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<v Speaker 1>And you also know that in the Marvel universe, the

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<v Speaker 1>Red Skull thought the force multiplier for his German army,

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<v Speaker 1>German Army in World War Two was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the test erect, so he created all sorts of weapons

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<v Speaker 1>you know that have blue rag guns.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, in Indiana Jones, they thought it was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be the Lost.

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<v Speaker 1>Arc that's right, the force multiplier that's also Germans.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, wow, how about that, So thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>So none of those things it is for a wonder

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<v Speaker 1>Woman in Captain America and Harrison Ford.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right, Indiana Jones. So that's not what he's

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<v Speaker 2>talking about here. But this this idea, they just understand,

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<v Speaker 2>the greater the work, the more you're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 2>have a force multiplier. Those force multipliers create a mess,

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<v Speaker 2>which creates other work, right right, But that's okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's great what you're working for. And this verse really

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<v Speaker 2>is all about impact. That's really what's talking about instead

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<v Speaker 2>of don't don't just do work, do work for impact,

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<v Speaker 2>have the greatest impact, the most effective things, not the

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<v Speaker 2>most efficient things. So there's a predisposition and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of especially among a lot of my engineer friends, to

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<v Speaker 2>work for efficiency. And I say, let's work for effectiveness first.

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<v Speaker 2>Efficiency second. So once we figure out the effective thing,

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<v Speaker 2>now let's make that as efficient as possible without changing effectiveness.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you start the other way, let's do the

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<v Speaker 2>thing as effectively or as efficiently as possible. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of times you then throttle back effectiveness. And that's really

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<v Speaker 2>what this verse is about. That's how one is a genius.

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<v Speaker 3>That's great.

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<v Speaker 2>He also turns out I think he's a wise man,

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<v Speaker 2>which is hence.

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<v Speaker 1>Why says Professor so verse of her twelve says, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a path before each person that seems right, but it

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<v Speaker 1>ends in death, and it is Remember several podcasts ago,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd made mention about somebody who sort of wakes up

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<v Speaker 1>and says, what was I thinking? You know, if you've

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<v Speaker 1>ever done that, it's like it's like there's there's a

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<v Speaker 1>path that is before you know a man or a woman,

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<v Speaker 1>and and and they think that's it's it seems right,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like it's the right thing in the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you look back and you realize, man, that

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<v Speaker 1>was taking me down the wrong road right. And and

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<v Speaker 1>people do this obviously with addiction all the time. They

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<v Speaker 1>do this with inappropriate relationships all the time. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they step out thinking, oh, this is the right thing,

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<v Speaker 1>this feels good, this is this is what's best for me.

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<v Speaker 3>And then or they just weren't thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>They were just thinking the thrill of things, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were just thinking, well, it's it's not good, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's thrilling and I can control it. Or it's a

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<v Speaker 1>harmless or it's not going to cause damage. And then

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<v Speaker 1>and then on the other end they go, what was

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<v Speaker 1>I thinking? And I always think of this verse.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a ray.

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<v Speaker 1>That you know, and we learned it in the King James.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a way that seemeth right to a man, a

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<v Speaker 1>man unto.

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<v Speaker 3>A man, but it ends in death and uh, and

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<v Speaker 3>it is true in the end.

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<v Speaker 1>It leadeth to death, leadeth to death, all jeeves, all

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<v Speaker 1>that old English talk. But anyway, the point is is

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<v Speaker 1>that it is important to recognize that sometimes when you're

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<v Speaker 1>convinced of something we need to be open to the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that we're not thinking correctly.

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<v Speaker 3>We need to be open to the.

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<v Speaker 1>Fact that there's wisdom and council. There's wisdom in those

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<v Speaker 1>around us, and it's not the thing that we want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear in the moment because we want what we want.

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<v Speaker 3>Stop telling me to stop wanting what I want?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, the implication there is and we'll have to

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<v Speaker 2>wrap up here, but there is a path for each

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<v Speaker 2>person that seems right. This is another one of those

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<v Speaker 2>heart things, right, right, So he's always telling you, don't

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<v Speaker 2>trust your heart, you'll get wise counsel. Wise counsel from God,

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<v Speaker 2>comes from God's word and God's people, Right, that's what

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<v Speaker 2>he's saying there, don't just trust your gut again. That's good.

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<v Speaker 1>That well, there's probably more to unpack and we had

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<v Speaker 1>we had a big long session here if that's our time,

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<v Speaker 1>so hopefully we'll.

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<v Speaker 3>See you next time on the Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>Gus