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Yo.

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What is up, everybody?

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Welcome back to the No

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I say they like I'm not a

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Yeah, what the fuck?

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We do this thing on the

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brother tonight we're going

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Now, before we jump into this top 10...

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mix it would be remiss we'd

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be remiss not to cover the

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elephant in the room so

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let's kick the show off by

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saying player three has

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entered the game and he

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fucking Leroy Jenkins that

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shit bro the rock go ahead

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I was gonna say the rock

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technically he didn't just enter the game

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He had already been in it.

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Yep.

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And he decided now is the

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time to pull the trigger on

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the match with Roman.

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But there are some things, you know,

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we've been talking about

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this since it happened.

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And a lot of different

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stories are starting to

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come out here about maybe

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there's more than what

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meets the eye here.

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What's going on with The

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Rock and Cody and

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potentially what The Rock is doing.

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for Cody and what this may

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be leading to for Cody Rhodes.

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Now, here on No Gimmicks,

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we have been speculating

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for months as it relates to

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Cody Rhodes and Cody

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Rhodes' trajectory and

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where we think he's going.

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And I've been saying for a

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while here on this show

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that Cody is destined to be a heel.

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I said Cody Rhodes is a heel.

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He just don't know it yet.

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And we're leading to that.

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We are leading to Cody turning heel.

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And The Rock is going to be

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the person to do it.

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Because here's the thing.

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The ultimate goal is going

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to be for Roman Reigns to be the guy.

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Roman Reigns to be the head, you know,

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the face of the WWE.

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The baby face of WWE.

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This is the reason why they

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had to go down this route.

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Because what happens is you

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can become the biggest bad guy.

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And they will love you when you turn.

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Now, Cody has been the biggest good guy.

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Okay.

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And now when he turns,

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I'm not saying that it's

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going to be on the same

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level of when this guy did it.

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But being as how Cody has

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all these people behind him

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and all this support right now,

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I cannot wait when he turns.

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Oh, it's going to be glorious.

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It's going to be magic.

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Because he's basically telling you,

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he sent a tweet out saying basically,

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trust me.

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And I remember Jake used to

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say trust me a lot too.

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So we're looking basically

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here at Cody Rhodes being

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the chosen one here.

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And we're going to correlate

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this once again as we do

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here on No Gimmicks to Star Wars.

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Cody Rhodes is Anakin Skywalker.

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He is the chosen one.

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He is destined to be the world champion.

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Yep.

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Roman Reigns and the

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character Star Wars wise is Count Dooku.

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He is the apprentice of Paul Heyman,

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who is the wise man.

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Correct.

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So when it comes down to it,

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the wise man needs a new apprentice.

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So

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So he is going to turn on Roman Reigns,

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and he is going to side with Cody.

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That will turn Cody heel.

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Roman will then go babyface.

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So then you say, well,

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what does the family members do?

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What does Solo do?

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What does Jimmy do?

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Well, they're going to turn on Roman.

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That's what they're going to do.

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They have to.

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There is no more bloodline.

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This is the nightmare family.

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That's what it's going to be.

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Or it could be something else.

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It could be the Nightmare Family.

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It could be the Nightmare Family,

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but it wouldn't surprise me,

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far-fetched as it sounds.

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As I was talking to you earlier,

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WWE owns this very popular

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intellectual property.

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It's three letters with a

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logo somewhere to the shirt

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you're wearing right now.

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Yep.

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They could do something with

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that if they wanted to.

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I'm sure Cody would get a

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kick out of doing something.

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I mean, his father was a part of that WCW,

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and I'm talking about the NWO.

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Mm-hmm.

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I mean,

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could you imagine here from a

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storyline standpoint and

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just booking Cody Rhodes

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becomes a world champion

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and spray paints that belt?

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That would be absolutely amazing.

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And it would be crazy

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because it would go against

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what he has been talking about.

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Well,

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I want to have the belt my dad never held,

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but it's like,

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you didn't really mean that.

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Right.

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But the same, you know,

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you didn't mean that.

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You wanted it for yourself,

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not for the father, not for your brother.

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You wanted it for yourself.

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So there's a lot of

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different ways that could

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go with this story.

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There is.

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That would make sense.

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That would turn Cody into

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the ultimate douchebag,

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pretty much the ultimate piece of shit.

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So here's where I'm going to go with this.

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And watching SmackDown,

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I correlated two things, right?

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Cody Rhodes in that promo

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said he had been seeking counsel, right?

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Right.

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What do they mention on Star Wars?

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A counsel.

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A Jedi counsel.

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A Jedi counsel.

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He had been seeking counsel.

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Now-

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He wants that title.

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He let it be known he wants that title.

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He let it be known he's

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coming for that title.

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In Revenge of the Sith, on the council,

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what did they tell Cody?

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He's not going to be a master.

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What did that, I mean,

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what did they tell Anakin?

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That he's not going to be a master.

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Yeah, you can have,

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we'll grant you a seat on the council,

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but we do not recognize you as a master.

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This is essentially what

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happened to Cody Rhodes.

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He won the Royal Rumble.

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He did everything he was supposed to.

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The right way.

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The right way.

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Only to be denied.

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This is going to do something to him.

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Correct.

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You saw the look in his face.

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Oh, he was dejected, bro.

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Exactly.

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It's like, yeah,

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and this is what I was

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saying in the No Gimmicks

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group on Facebook.

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Your World Rumble win meant nothing.

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You're basically saying,

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I can go out there and bust

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my ass and throw out 29 other guys.

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It's going to lead to nothing.

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Stone Cold would say,

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29 pieces of trash over the top rope.

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And it doesn't mean shit

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because all of a sudden,

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The Rock could come out

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there or Stone Cold Steve

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Austin could come out there and say,

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I'm taking this title shot.

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So move along, Jabron.

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Move along.

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Move along.

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Yeah, right.

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That's essentially what happened to Cody.

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Yep.

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You can go.

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You can challenge for this other title,

0:11:09.865 --> 0:11:11.066
but it ain't going to be this one.

0:11:13.187 --> 0:11:13.447
Oh,

0:11:13.506 --> 0:11:15.067
and let me say something right quick

0:11:15.087 --> 0:11:15.687
about that, too,

0:11:15.827 --> 0:11:17.328
when you mentioned this title.

0:11:18.408 --> 0:11:19.668
So something that made me

0:11:19.688 --> 0:11:20.850
laugh my ass off on

0:11:20.870 --> 0:11:22.551
SmackDown is when Cody was

0:11:22.571 --> 0:11:23.431
cutting that promo.

0:11:23.870 --> 0:11:24.912
I know you're about to go.

0:11:24.932 --> 0:11:26.011
Yeah, I'm going there.

0:11:26.802 --> 0:11:28.403
So Cody was cutting that promo.

0:11:29.945 --> 0:11:33.307
And he says, that belt, you know,

0:11:33.407 --> 0:11:34.868
it's a belt that my father didn't have.

0:11:35.148 --> 0:11:36.089
Bullshit.

0:11:37.990 --> 0:11:40.211
That championship has no

0:11:40.392 --> 0:11:44.254
lineage to the WWF winged eagle.

0:11:44.815 --> 0:11:46.395
The WWF championship has no,

0:11:46.616 --> 0:11:48.477
it's not the belt that San

0:11:48.518 --> 0:11:49.759
Martino had or Pedro

0:11:49.798 --> 0:11:51.139
Morales or Bob Bagley.

0:11:51.706 --> 0:11:53.908
or superstar Billy Graham, or Hulk Hogan,

0:11:54.208 --> 0:11:56.590
or Bret Hart, or Macho Man, Warrior,

0:11:56.690 --> 0:11:57.571
Sergeant Slaughter.

0:11:58.291 --> 0:11:59.172
So many others.

0:11:59.711 --> 0:12:00.393
So many others.

0:12:00.452 --> 0:12:03.254
Shawn Michaels, Hunter, Austin.

0:12:04.355 --> 0:12:05.176
It's not the same.

0:12:05.755 --> 0:12:08.878
So, miss me with that bullshit.

0:12:08.998 --> 0:12:09.938
And the thing about it that

0:12:09.958 --> 0:12:11.580
I kind of find funny the most is, like,

0:12:12.159 --> 0:12:13.561
on your own website,

0:12:14.282 --> 0:12:16.123
it shows two different lineages, bruh.

0:12:16.831 --> 0:12:19.274
it does it does and that's

0:12:19.333 --> 0:12:20.495
what so I caught that I

0:12:20.815 --> 0:12:22.115
caught that a long time ago

0:12:22.676 --> 0:12:23.777
but I went back and look

0:12:23.797 --> 0:12:24.878
because I was looking for

0:12:25.258 --> 0:12:26.399
how long Roman had been the

0:12:26.438 --> 0:12:28.201
champion I forgot I was

0:12:28.221 --> 0:12:29.380
like oh yeah they don't

0:12:29.422 --> 0:12:30.361
even they don't even

0:12:30.481 --> 0:12:31.763
recognize that lineage

0:12:32.583 --> 0:12:36.267
right they don't they have

0:12:36.326 --> 0:12:37.648
him carrying the belt but

0:12:37.707 --> 0:12:38.467
it's only for like 600

0:12:38.467 --> 0:12:40.750
something days which would

0:12:40.809 --> 0:12:43.091
make him like number seven

0:12:43.131 --> 0:12:44.552
or some shit like that

0:12:46.327 --> 0:12:47.169
Which isn't bad,

0:12:47.210 --> 0:12:49.953
but you ain't creeping up on a record.

0:12:50.995 --> 0:12:51.176
No,

0:12:51.216 --> 0:12:56.164
it's like the only record that matters

0:12:57.307 --> 0:12:59.049
is Gunther's record.

0:13:00.102 --> 0:13:01.543
Yeah.

0:13:01.563 --> 0:13:04.365
Which they got to fix that.

0:13:04.765 --> 0:13:05.726
If that's the story you're

0:13:05.767 --> 0:13:07.548
going to go with, you have to fix that.

0:13:07.927 --> 0:13:10.549
You have to say, this is the title.

0:13:10.890 --> 0:13:11.870
This is the lineage.

0:13:12.292 --> 0:13:14.033
This belt now carries that.

0:13:14.133 --> 0:13:16.293
They don't outright address that.

0:13:17.455 --> 0:13:19.076
Yeah.

0:13:19.155 --> 0:13:20.596
And just like Cody's belt,

0:13:21.038 --> 0:13:22.739
it doesn't have any lineage

0:13:22.778 --> 0:13:24.080
to the big gold belt.

0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:27.200
So it's just like,

0:13:27.259 --> 0:13:28.421
I don't know what the hell they're doing.

0:13:29.301 --> 0:13:31.061
If you want to trace the

0:13:31.100 --> 0:13:32.581
history back for the belt

0:13:32.601 --> 0:13:33.361
Roman's carrying,

0:13:34.001 --> 0:13:35.841
it goes back to SummerSlam,

0:13:36.062 --> 0:13:37.243
and Finn Balor was the

0:13:37.263 --> 0:13:38.082
first Undisputed Champion.

0:13:38.102 --> 0:13:38.263
Correct.

0:13:38.743 --> 0:13:39.682
That's what it goes down to.

0:13:40.123 --> 0:13:42.124
Correct.

0:13:42.803 --> 0:13:43.903
And you know what's crazy to

0:13:43.943 --> 0:13:48.205
me is how when I think

0:13:48.245 --> 0:13:50.365
about Finn Balor and when

0:13:50.404 --> 0:13:51.686
he won the Undisputed title,

0:13:51.765 --> 0:13:53.505
he's never gotten back close to that.

0:13:55.207 --> 0:13:58.409
I think about the matches

0:13:58.429 --> 0:13:59.149
that he could have had with

0:13:59.190 --> 0:14:01.471
Seth Rollins being a heel.

0:14:03.072 --> 0:14:04.812
I thought they were going that route,

0:14:05.332 --> 0:14:06.874
and they ultimately didn't.

0:14:07.254 --> 0:14:08.855
I really wanted them to go that route.

0:14:09.655 --> 0:14:10.115
Yeah.

0:14:10.336 --> 0:14:12.336
They just, for whatever reason,

0:14:12.356 --> 0:14:12.856
they didn't.

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But it would have made all

0:14:14.437 --> 0:14:15.217
the sense in the world,

0:14:15.238 --> 0:14:17.538
because I never lost this belt, man.

0:14:17.558 --> 0:14:18.899
Yeah.

0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:20.701
And it would have made sense,

0:14:20.921 --> 0:14:22.322
because Seth is a babyface.

0:14:23.751 --> 0:14:25.013
Finn is a heel,

0:14:25.212 --> 0:14:27.514
and he's in control of a faction.

0:14:27.735 --> 0:14:28.375
It would have made all the

0:14:28.394 --> 0:14:29.115
sense in the world.

0:14:30.355 --> 0:14:30.716
Actually,

0:14:30.775 --> 0:14:32.216
he's not in control of the Judgment Day.

0:14:32.236 --> 0:14:33.638
Not anymore, but at the time,

0:14:33.658 --> 0:14:35.379
it was perceived that he was the guy.

0:14:35.418 --> 0:14:35.698
Yeah.

0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:36.320
I mean,

0:14:36.340 --> 0:14:39.101
we already know Rhea Ripley is in

0:14:39.142 --> 0:14:40.182
control of the Judgment Day.

0:14:40.542 --> 0:14:41.523
Right, right.

0:14:41.783 --> 0:14:43.423
So she is the leader of the Judgment Day.

0:14:44.004 --> 0:14:44.205
Right.

0:14:44.465 --> 0:14:45.065
Absolutely.

0:14:45.085 --> 0:14:45.446
Absolutely.

0:14:45.505 --> 0:14:46.125
Absolutely.

0:14:47.267 --> 0:14:47.907
But yeah, man,

0:14:50.349 --> 0:14:51.850
WrestleMania is going to be wild.

0:14:52.129 --> 0:14:52.630
I think it's wild.

0:14:52.650 --> 0:14:56.253
WrestleMania is going to be

0:14:56.352 --> 0:14:59.134
interesting because The

0:14:59.195 --> 0:15:01.956
Rock threw a ripple in the feather there,

0:15:01.996 --> 0:15:04.818
but CM Punk did too when he came back.

0:15:06.099 --> 0:15:07.841
And I'm going to tell you,

0:15:07.860 --> 0:15:08.500
the CM Punk thing.

0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:09.922
For all the wrong reasons.

0:15:10.461 --> 0:15:11.503
It's horrible.

0:15:12.342 --> 0:15:13.583
For all the wrong reasons.

0:15:14.144 --> 0:15:15.686
Punk being hurt.

0:15:17.284 --> 0:15:18.346
It messed up the plans,

0:15:18.427 --> 0:15:19.489
but at the same time,

0:15:20.630 --> 0:15:21.692
they're talking about right

0:15:21.773 --> 0:15:23.014
now that they're going to

0:15:23.034 --> 0:15:24.378
probably be moving punk to

0:15:24.437 --> 0:15:26.081
commentary is what he's

0:15:26.100 --> 0:15:26.741
going to be doing while

0:15:26.782 --> 0:15:27.703
he's rehabbing his injury.

0:15:28.325 --> 0:15:29.306
And that makes sense, though.

0:15:29.962 --> 0:15:31.083
Yeah, it was pretty good.

0:15:32.684 --> 0:15:35.488
Drew McIntyre is a monster.

0:15:35.908 --> 0:15:37.649
Bro, savage.

0:15:39.010 --> 0:15:41.032
Absolute savage.

0:15:42.453 --> 0:15:43.754
Ever since Punk got hurt,

0:15:44.475 --> 0:15:45.576
I don't know what it is.

0:15:45.596 --> 0:15:46.636
I don't know who's giving

0:15:46.677 --> 0:15:48.619
him the green light, but I love it.

0:15:49.500 --> 0:15:50.861
I absolutely love it.

0:15:50.922 --> 0:15:51.702
It was before that.

0:15:51.763 --> 0:15:55.345
It was when they started with Jay.

0:15:55.404 --> 0:15:56.686
And now Jay is going up

0:15:56.706 --> 0:15:59.126
against Gunther for the IC belt now.

0:15:59.727 --> 0:16:00.028
It's like,

0:16:00.488 --> 0:16:01.548
I don't know what the hell they're doing.

0:16:01.609 --> 0:16:04.471
It's like, they have direction for Jay,

0:16:04.510 --> 0:16:05.191
but none for Jimmy.

0:16:06.851 --> 0:16:07.352
I think...

0:16:08.402 --> 0:16:09.883
I think that's the plan.

0:16:10.003 --> 0:16:10.803
Have them go,

0:16:11.504 --> 0:16:14.385
and which it makes sense for

0:16:14.466 --> 0:16:16.006
Jay to challenge and

0:16:16.268 --> 0:16:19.470
possibly win because if

0:16:19.509 --> 0:16:23.793
you're going to bring him to prominence,

0:16:24.253 --> 0:16:25.453
Gunther I'm talking about,

0:16:25.874 --> 0:16:27.936
you can have him challenge for the title.

0:16:27.975 --> 0:16:29.917
Whoever wins that, if it's Cody,

0:16:30.418 --> 0:16:31.538
they had a banger at the

0:16:31.558 --> 0:16:32.960
end of Royal Rumble last year,

0:16:33.139 --> 0:16:34.760
so throw them in there.

0:16:35.061 --> 0:16:36.221
What's up, Total of Time?

0:16:37.642 --> 0:16:38.903
Total of times in the house.

0:16:38.923 --> 0:16:39.543
What's up, buddy?

0:16:40.302 --> 0:16:42.183
But, yeah,

0:16:43.205 --> 0:16:44.284
you can have him challenged for

0:16:44.304 --> 0:16:45.525
the title.

0:16:45.586 --> 0:16:49.548
You know, I was going to say,

0:16:49.567 --> 0:16:52.129
the ultimate thing with

0:16:52.168 --> 0:16:55.230
Gunther that I would have done was, yeah,

0:16:55.791 --> 0:16:56.191
no, man.

0:16:56.311 --> 0:16:57.192
Another guy,

0:16:57.371 --> 0:16:58.751
and I'm going to go back to Gunther,

0:16:59.393 --> 0:17:00.773
but another guy that I

0:17:00.812 --> 0:17:02.333
think they're wasting is

0:17:02.374 --> 0:17:04.214
Damien Priest with that

0:17:04.255 --> 0:17:05.615
money in the bank briefcase.

0:17:06.269 --> 0:17:07.549
I would have much rather had

0:17:07.769 --> 0:17:08.691
Gunther carrying that

0:17:08.730 --> 0:17:09.912
briefcase and the

0:17:09.951 --> 0:17:10.992
Intercontinental Championship.

0:17:11.634 --> 0:17:14.636
Can you imagine the story

0:17:15.477 --> 0:17:16.878
that he could have had there?

0:17:17.486 --> 0:17:19.027
That's OP.

0:17:19.926 --> 0:17:21.548
But then again, at the same time,

0:17:21.807 --> 0:17:24.148
if they had been pushing Drew as a heel,

0:17:24.730 --> 0:17:25.849
then Drew McIntyre could

0:17:25.869 --> 0:17:27.050
have had that briefcase as well.

0:17:27.471 --> 0:17:28.592
And now he's talking about, well,

0:17:29.071 --> 0:17:29.711
I want to go to

0:17:29.751 --> 0:17:31.153
WrestleMania and challenge for a title.

0:17:31.173 --> 0:17:32.133
So, hey, Cody, yeah,

0:17:32.192 --> 0:17:34.434
go after Roman so I can go

0:17:34.615 --> 0:17:36.776
to WrestleMania to face Seth Rollins.

0:17:36.796 --> 0:17:38.537
That's what he tried to do Monday.

0:17:38.836 --> 0:17:39.116
Right.

0:17:39.237 --> 0:17:39.777
And I'm like,

0:17:40.017 --> 0:17:43.038
this is the most sinister thing.

0:17:43.659 --> 0:17:45.602
I've ever seen a Drew McIntyre.

0:17:45.701 --> 0:17:47.384
I love it because the

0:17:47.443 --> 0:17:49.286
villain Drew McIntyre is

0:17:49.346 --> 0:17:50.567
better without the sword

0:17:50.647 --> 0:17:52.089
and all that other goofy shit.

0:17:52.529 --> 0:17:53.932
Just straight up savage.

0:17:54.353 --> 0:17:56.434
I'm not a religious person,

0:17:56.494 --> 0:17:57.957
but I prayed for this to happen.

0:17:58.498 --> 0:17:59.900
And I was like, yes.

0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:00.279
Wow.

0:18:01.579 --> 0:18:03.881
I was like, yes.

0:18:04.601 --> 0:18:05.442
I love this.

0:18:06.301 --> 0:18:09.542
They're just hitting on all

0:18:09.623 --> 0:18:11.384
cylinders right now with everything.

0:18:11.503 --> 0:18:12.104
I was like,

0:18:12.124 --> 0:18:13.404
WrestleMania is looking like crap.

0:18:13.424 --> 0:18:14.484
I'm like, nah,

0:18:14.585 --> 0:18:15.445
I'm interested in getting

0:18:15.465 --> 0:18:18.126
what they're going to do in WrestleMania.

0:18:19.106 --> 0:18:19.667
Here's the thing.

0:18:19.708 --> 0:18:21.248
With all of this going on,

0:18:21.688 --> 0:18:23.409
they've actually achieved something.

0:18:24.128 --> 0:18:25.130
The Dirt Sheets don't know

0:18:25.329 --> 0:18:26.450
what the fuck to do.

0:18:26.470 --> 0:18:27.790
I love it.

0:18:28.734 --> 0:18:30.895
Yeah, that's the part about it.

0:18:31.155 --> 0:18:32.476
That's the funny part about

0:18:32.496 --> 0:18:33.957
this is that they literally

0:18:34.017 --> 0:18:36.176
don't know what's going on.

0:18:36.257 --> 0:18:37.238
All it is, really,

0:18:37.258 --> 0:18:38.978
is just all it is is

0:18:39.018 --> 0:18:41.138
speculation from everybody.

0:18:41.179 --> 0:18:42.999
Sean Ross, Sab, you got Meltzer.

0:18:43.118 --> 0:18:44.099
Everybody's just speculating.

0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:45.400
They don't know anything, and I love it.

0:18:45.420 --> 0:18:46.799
No one knows a thing.

0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:48.780
I want to be surprised this

0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:49.840
time around because I'm

0:18:49.861 --> 0:18:51.402
thinking I know what's

0:18:51.622 --> 0:18:52.501
going to happen here.

0:18:53.046 --> 0:18:54.686
But I don't know.

0:18:55.488 --> 0:18:57.308
Even trying to predict it,

0:18:57.890 --> 0:18:59.111
I'm okay being wrong.

0:18:59.431 --> 0:19:02.354
Because that means it's not predictable.

0:19:02.394 --> 0:19:04.634
If I can't tell you what's going on,

0:19:04.675 --> 0:19:05.175
then yeah.

0:19:05.916 --> 0:19:06.497
I like that.

0:19:06.777 --> 0:19:07.938
I like being surprised.

0:19:08.338 --> 0:19:09.680
And I like the prospect of,

0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:10.619
I don't know what's going

0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:11.580
to happen at Mania.

0:19:12.382 --> 0:19:12.642
Right.

0:19:13.782 --> 0:19:14.703
I actually don't know.

0:19:15.684 --> 0:19:16.204
I like it.

0:19:16.404 --> 0:19:16.765
Because...

0:19:17.978 --> 0:19:19.439
Ever since Punk came back,

0:19:19.558 --> 0:19:22.680
it's like this weird, you don't know.

0:19:23.059 --> 0:19:24.839
Because there was a plan.

0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:26.381
Punk screwed that up.

0:19:26.941 --> 0:19:27.800
Then he got hurt.

0:19:27.941 --> 0:19:29.102
So now you really don't know

0:19:29.142 --> 0:19:29.902
what's going on.

0:19:30.321 --> 0:19:31.482
Cody won the Rumble.

0:19:32.002 --> 0:19:33.222
But then Rock came back.

0:19:34.663 --> 0:19:37.125
And then now that's all out of control.

0:19:37.664 --> 0:19:39.244
Yeah, we might get Rock Roman.

0:19:40.586 --> 0:19:42.326
But what if we get a triple threat?

0:19:42.445 --> 0:19:43.027
We don't know.

0:19:45.527 --> 0:19:46.788
We actually don't know.

0:19:48.865 --> 0:19:49.704
And I'm like, yes,

0:19:50.165 --> 0:19:51.787
I've been needing this for a while.

0:19:51.807 --> 0:19:53.007
Well,

0:19:53.047 --> 0:19:55.008
essentially what's going on right now,

0:19:55.388 --> 0:19:56.209
and I mentioned this once

0:19:56.229 --> 0:19:56.868
again in the group,

0:19:57.189 --> 0:19:58.710
was what you're seeing

0:19:58.750 --> 0:20:00.330
right now with Cody and the

0:20:00.391 --> 0:20:03.252
Cody movement is the yes movement.

0:20:04.012 --> 0:20:05.034
It's what you're seeing right now.

0:20:05.213 --> 0:20:05.794
Essentially.

0:20:06.094 --> 0:20:07.575
And it worked to perfection.

0:20:08.075 --> 0:20:08.615
Oh, it does.

0:20:08.675 --> 0:20:09.875
Because basically what you

0:20:09.915 --> 0:20:11.317
got here is you really have

0:20:11.356 --> 0:20:13.397
The Rock playing the role of Batista.

0:20:14.959 --> 0:20:15.239
Right.

0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:16.279
Right.

0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:16.619
Yeah.

0:20:17.724 --> 0:20:21.326
Coming in and the crowd is

0:20:21.386 --> 0:20:23.248
like that crowd Monday.

0:20:23.708 --> 0:20:25.368
What a difference between

0:20:25.588 --> 0:20:26.868
Friday and Monday.

0:20:26.888 --> 0:20:29.349
Yeah.

0:20:29.990 --> 0:20:33.291
And supposedly they weren't

0:20:33.491 --> 0:20:34.112
expecting that.

0:20:34.173 --> 0:20:34.873
That was like, no.

0:20:35.657 --> 0:20:35.897
No.

0:20:35.998 --> 0:20:36.679
Yeah, they were like,

0:20:36.699 --> 0:20:38.420
that kind of took them back a little.

0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:40.040
So I'm interested to see

0:20:40.060 --> 0:20:41.221
what's going on here.

0:20:41.402 --> 0:20:41.942
Exactly.

0:20:42.001 --> 0:20:42.962
Controversy sells and

0:20:42.982 --> 0:20:44.463
controversy creates cash,

0:20:44.523 --> 0:20:46.144
as Eric Bischoff says.

0:20:46.565 --> 0:20:49.126
So they're doing everything

0:20:49.146 --> 0:20:51.689
they can right now to bank

0:20:51.749 --> 0:20:52.950
on this situation and also

0:20:53.009 --> 0:20:55.391
take the focus off of another situation.

0:20:56.051 --> 0:20:57.692
Everybody knows what we're talking about,

0:20:57.712 --> 0:20:58.614
so I'm going to mention here,

0:20:58.653 --> 0:20:59.634
but you know what I'm talking about,

0:20:59.874 --> 0:21:02.016
taking the focus off of that situation.

0:21:02.435 --> 0:21:03.836
And speaking of that situation,

0:21:03.876 --> 0:21:06.558
before we move on to the meat here.

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So Brock Lesnar,

0:21:12.483 --> 0:21:13.244
not going to be a part of

0:21:13.265 --> 0:21:14.645
WrestleMania this year, obviously,

0:21:14.685 --> 0:21:15.486
because of reasons.

0:21:16.366 --> 0:21:19.088
And WWE and 2K have made the

0:21:19.148 --> 0:21:21.651
decision to take him off

0:21:21.790 --> 0:21:26.694
the WWE 2K24 WrestleMania edition cover.

0:21:27.401 --> 0:21:28.521
They took him off and

0:21:28.561 --> 0:21:29.522
replaced him with John Cena.

0:21:29.563 --> 0:21:29.742
Now,

0:21:29.942 --> 0:21:33.026
we don't know if he is going to be in

0:21:33.105 --> 0:21:34.768
the game still and if Vince

0:21:34.788 --> 0:21:36.569
McMahon is still going to be in the game.

0:21:36.970 --> 0:21:38.070
They might pull both of them.

0:21:38.411 --> 0:21:39.011
We don't know yet.

0:21:39.352 --> 0:21:40.933
It's very hard to erase

0:21:41.114 --> 0:21:42.515
Vince McMahon from WWE.

0:21:42.555 --> 0:21:43.955
That's just what never happened.

0:21:44.196 --> 0:21:44.957
It will never happen.

0:21:46.178 --> 0:21:47.019
It is hard.

0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:48.941
He will not get the Benoit treatment.

0:21:48.961 --> 0:21:50.442
It's not going to happen.

0:21:51.663 --> 0:21:52.964
So, in saying that...

0:21:54.636 --> 0:21:57.038
We talked enough.

0:21:57.480 --> 0:21:59.161
We've been saying this for weeks,

0:21:59.201 --> 0:21:59.922
what we're going to do.

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So, brother, let's do it.

0:22:03.285 --> 0:22:03.884
Let's do it.

0:22:03.924 --> 0:22:05.707
Let's get into our meat and

0:22:05.747 --> 0:22:07.508
potatoes of tonight.

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40 years of Hulkamania.

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Tonight we're doing the top 10 matches.

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Now,

0:22:12.653 --> 0:22:13.614
we're going to do this a little

0:22:13.653 --> 0:22:14.094
differently.

0:22:14.473 --> 0:22:15.976
Frank D is going to give his five.

0:22:16.695 --> 0:22:17.916
I'm going to give my five.

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And then if you guys have

0:22:20.869 --> 0:22:22.851
top 10 Hulk Hogan matches

0:22:22.971 --> 0:22:24.211
you want to throw out in the chat,

0:22:24.711 --> 0:22:25.451
throw them up there.

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We'll talk about it.

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So with that being said,

0:22:29.594 --> 0:22:30.653
let's jump into it.

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I'll let you go first.

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I went first on the last top.

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All right.

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So for me,

0:22:39.958 --> 0:22:43.440
I am going to go with WCW Bash

0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:45.461
the Beach 94 Hulk Hogan's

0:22:45.500 --> 0:22:46.580
debut match against Ric

0:22:46.601 --> 0:22:48.402
Flair for the WCW World Championships.

0:22:49.278 --> 0:22:50.959
And I thought that was one

0:22:50.979 --> 0:22:52.140
of Hogan's best matches.

0:22:52.599 --> 0:22:54.361
And they previously did this

0:22:54.421 --> 0:22:55.761
match in the WWF.

0:22:56.442 --> 0:22:57.202
And a lot of people thought

0:22:57.222 --> 0:22:58.683
that it would have been the

0:22:59.003 --> 0:23:00.505
main event of WrestleMania 8.

0:23:00.505 --> 0:23:01.184
It didn't happen.

0:23:01.224 --> 0:23:02.705
They supposedly didn't say, well,

0:23:03.227 --> 0:23:05.327
it wasn't the attraction we

0:23:05.347 --> 0:23:07.108
thought it was going to be, whatever.

0:23:07.659 --> 0:23:08.759
They did it at WCW.

0:23:08.778 --> 0:23:09.199
As a matter of fact,

0:23:09.219 --> 0:23:09.940
they did it a couple of

0:23:09.980 --> 0:23:11.079
times at WCW because they

0:23:11.099 --> 0:23:12.460
did it at Bachelor of the Beach.

0:23:12.480 --> 0:23:13.480
And then later on in the year,

0:23:13.881 --> 0:23:15.101
they would do it at Halloween Havoc,

0:23:15.221 --> 0:23:16.882
a retirement match in which

0:23:16.942 --> 0:23:18.821
Mr. T was a referee, was a steel cage.

0:23:19.303 --> 0:23:21.542
And then Brutus Beefcake

0:23:21.583 --> 0:23:22.522
became the butcher.

0:23:22.703 --> 0:23:23.943
Our brother Brutai became

0:23:23.983 --> 0:23:25.924
the butcher and started to

0:23:25.944 --> 0:23:26.444
feud with Hogan.

0:23:26.464 --> 0:23:28.325
So I'm going to go with that match there.

0:23:28.384 --> 0:23:30.826
Hogan versus Ric Flair, WCW championship.

0:23:30.865 --> 0:23:32.506
Of course, Hogan wins the match.

0:23:32.646 --> 0:23:33.846
Shaquille O'Neal with a ring,

0:23:34.386 --> 0:23:35.907
raises his hand with the big gold belt.

0:23:37.208 --> 0:23:37.508
Okay.

0:23:37.930 --> 0:23:38.490
I like that.

0:23:38.990 --> 0:23:39.571
I like that.

0:23:40.192 --> 0:23:42.255
I'm going to go Hulk Hogan

0:23:42.914 --> 0:23:45.657
versus Bill Goldberg Monday

0:23:45.738 --> 0:23:48.421
Nitro in the Georgia Dome.

0:23:48.441 --> 0:23:50.563
40,000 fans.

0:23:51.163 --> 0:23:52.525
Should have been a pay-per-view match,

0:23:52.586 --> 0:23:54.307
but we got it on a Monday Nitro.

0:23:56.349 --> 0:23:58.291
It was during the ratings war, obviously.

0:23:59.071 --> 0:23:59.313
But

0:24:00.086 --> 0:24:01.988
The buzz that they built for

0:24:02.008 --> 0:24:04.349
this match was absolutely insane.

0:24:05.470 --> 0:24:08.073
Goldberg was on his incredible run.

0:24:08.913 --> 0:24:09.933
He was undefeated.

0:24:10.294 --> 0:24:11.615
He had ran through pretty

0:24:11.655 --> 0:24:15.038
much the entire NWO to get to Hulk Hogan.

0:24:16.009 --> 0:24:17.912
And finally got to Hulk Hogan,

0:24:18.471 --> 0:24:21.714
setting up a showdown on Monday Nitro.

0:24:22.135 --> 0:24:23.096
The commentary,

0:24:23.457 --> 0:24:24.698
the only person I remember

0:24:24.778 --> 0:24:26.500
on the commentary, oddly enough,

0:24:26.900 --> 0:24:28.540
was Bobby the Brain Heenan.

0:24:29.122 --> 0:24:30.423
Because he was talking so

0:24:30.462 --> 0:24:31.743
much shit on commentary.

0:24:33.066 --> 0:24:35.528
But just remembering...

0:24:36.703 --> 0:24:40.266
The spear and the crowd going crazy.

0:24:40.705 --> 0:24:41.885
And they did a very nice

0:24:41.945 --> 0:24:42.926
thing during that match too.

0:24:42.946 --> 0:24:44.106
They zoomed out,

0:24:44.606 --> 0:24:45.847
showed the crowd how

0:24:45.988 --> 0:24:47.189
everybody was reacting.

0:24:47.568 --> 0:24:48.628
People already throwing

0:24:48.669 --> 0:24:49.690
stuff in the ring because

0:24:49.710 --> 0:24:51.289
they know Jack Hammer's coming.

0:24:52.290 --> 0:24:52.431
And...

0:24:53.461 --> 0:24:55.463
Bobby the Brain said when he gets him up,

0:24:55.503 --> 0:24:57.105
this place is going to explode.

0:24:57.665 --> 0:24:59.827
And it absolutely did.

0:25:00.648 --> 0:25:01.951
That night, I believe,

0:25:02.411 --> 0:25:03.632
I think Goldberg was pretty

0:25:03.652 --> 0:25:04.993
much made before that night,

0:25:05.013 --> 0:25:06.555
but that night solidified

0:25:07.256 --> 0:25:09.478
the stardom that was Goldberg.

0:25:09.637 --> 0:25:10.798
So it's one of mine.

0:25:10.818 --> 0:25:10.980
Yeah.

0:25:11.826 --> 0:25:12.226
Yeah, I mean,

0:25:12.246 --> 0:25:13.646
they were right in the middle

0:25:13.666 --> 0:25:14.428
of the Monday Night War,

0:25:14.667 --> 0:25:16.429
and at this point, WCW had been losing,

0:25:16.449 --> 0:25:17.108
and that's the reason why

0:25:17.128 --> 0:25:18.130
they pulled the trigger on

0:25:18.170 --> 0:25:18.910
Goldberg and Hogan.

0:25:18.990 --> 0:25:21.471
It was actually Hogan's idea to do it.

0:25:22.311 --> 0:25:24.913
So, if you remember earlier in the night,

0:25:25.173 --> 0:25:27.414
he wrestled Scott Hall to

0:25:27.454 --> 0:25:28.596
get the match with Hogan

0:25:28.756 --> 0:25:29.416
later on in the night.

0:25:30.317 --> 0:25:31.438
So, yeah, I mean,

0:25:31.518 --> 0:25:32.598
it was a great moment in the war.

0:25:32.638 --> 0:25:33.538
I think it was probably the

0:25:33.558 --> 0:25:35.901
last time WCW actually beat the WWF,

0:25:36.340 --> 0:25:37.501
if I remember correctly, in the ratings.

0:25:38.942 --> 0:25:40.643
Yeah, I think so.

0:25:41.772 --> 0:25:43.637
So my next match,

0:25:43.778 --> 0:25:44.400
we're going to go all the

0:25:44.420 --> 0:25:47.387
way back to 1990 at SummerSlam.

0:25:47.667 --> 0:25:49.593
It's Hulk Hogan versus The Earthquake.

0:25:50.423 --> 0:25:53.246
with Dino Bravo in

0:25:53.445 --> 0:25:54.645
Earthquake's corner and the

0:25:54.685 --> 0:25:56.287
Big Boss Man in Hogan's corner.

0:25:56.948 --> 0:25:58.909
So I thought that was a great match,

0:25:59.308 --> 0:26:00.308
very good storytelling.

0:26:00.328 --> 0:26:02.289
They did a whole campaign of

0:26:02.349 --> 0:26:03.651
everybody sitting there, you know,

0:26:03.671 --> 0:26:06.752
writing for, you know,

0:26:06.853 --> 0:26:08.953
cards and shit for Hulk Hogan, basically,

0:26:09.334 --> 0:26:11.515
because he had got the Earthquakes,

0:26:11.535 --> 0:26:12.895
you know, drops, the Earthquakes,

0:26:12.996 --> 0:26:15.758
you know, splashes on, what was it,

0:26:15.817 --> 0:26:16.657
the Brother Love Show or

0:26:16.678 --> 0:26:17.157
something like that.

0:26:17.598 --> 0:26:17.699
Yeah.

0:26:17.778 --> 0:26:17.898
So,

0:26:18.819 --> 0:26:21.001
This was just a great angle.

0:26:21.021 --> 0:26:21.442
Originally,

0:26:21.482 --> 0:26:22.564
I believe Tugboat was supposed

0:26:22.584 --> 0:26:23.424
to be in Hogan's Corner,

0:26:23.444 --> 0:26:24.384
but that got changed,

0:26:24.465 --> 0:26:26.007
and then it became the Big Boss Man.

0:26:26.667 --> 0:26:28.169
So I saw it.

0:26:28.229 --> 0:26:29.671
I mean, Tenta, John Tenta,

0:26:29.730 --> 0:26:30.530
God rest his soul.

0:26:31.192 --> 0:26:32.653
Tenta was just a beast.

0:26:32.673 --> 0:26:33.253
So underrated.

0:26:33.574 --> 0:26:34.855
Yeah, so underrated.

0:26:35.415 --> 0:26:36.917
Was a beast, you know?

0:26:37.298 --> 0:26:39.039
And from what I hear from people...

0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:40.761
One of the nicest guys.

0:26:41.082 --> 0:26:42.383
I was just about to say that.

0:26:42.682 --> 0:26:43.482
I was just about to say that.

0:26:43.502 --> 0:26:44.124
Hated being a heel.

0:26:44.564 --> 0:26:44.864
Yeah.

0:26:44.903 --> 0:26:45.443
That's crazy.

0:26:45.743 --> 0:26:47.505
But that's what made it so good.

0:26:48.185 --> 0:26:49.366
It made it so good.

0:26:49.747 --> 0:26:50.686
And he actually loved it.

0:26:50.747 --> 0:26:52.508
You know, and Bret Hart said this story.

0:26:52.528 --> 0:26:54.950
He's like, Tenta hated being a heel,

0:26:55.190 --> 0:26:56.851
and he loved it when he became Faces.

0:26:58.092 --> 0:26:58.211
Really?

0:26:58.231 --> 0:26:59.031
Because he got to interact.

0:26:59.172 --> 0:26:59.352
Yeah,

0:26:59.392 --> 0:27:00.893
he got to interact with the kids and

0:27:00.932 --> 0:27:01.173
all that.

0:27:01.192 --> 0:27:01.933
That's what he liked to do.

0:27:01.973 --> 0:27:03.714
He was just like a teddy bear.

0:27:03.755 --> 0:27:04.815
He was like a real nice guy.

0:27:05.236 --> 0:27:05.536
Mm-hmm.

0:27:07.516 --> 0:27:09.317
I heard that too.

0:27:09.836 --> 0:27:11.336
He was a great guy.

0:27:11.356 --> 0:27:15.538
Good one.

0:27:15.898 --> 0:27:17.459
I'm going to go a little bit left field.

0:27:17.499 --> 0:27:18.638
I had this one in my top 10.

0:27:18.778 --> 0:27:20.839
I almost didn't want to talk about it,

0:27:21.079 --> 0:27:21.880
but I'm going to because

0:27:21.940 --> 0:27:23.161
it's absolutely hilarious.

0:27:23.881 --> 0:27:25.641
Hulk Hogan versus Shawn Michaels.

0:27:27.362 --> 0:27:27.561
Oh, jeez.

0:27:27.582 --> 0:27:28.961
You're talking about SummerSlam, right?

0:27:29.261 --> 0:27:29.501
Yes.

0:27:29.961 --> 0:27:30.242
Ah.

0:27:30.363 --> 0:27:30.482
Jeez.

0:27:36.923 --> 0:27:38.463
I almost didn't talk about this,

0:27:38.544 --> 0:27:39.644
but I'm going to talk about it.

0:27:39.704 --> 0:27:41.385
Hulk Hogan versus Shawn Michaels.

0:27:41.866 --> 0:27:44.548
The selling in this match by

0:27:44.588 --> 0:27:45.409
Shawn Michaels.

0:27:45.990 --> 0:27:46.250
Yeah.

0:27:47.230 --> 0:27:50.153
It's an absolute master class in selling.

0:27:51.733 --> 0:27:52.795
It's an absolute master

0:27:52.835 --> 0:27:54.036
class of being a prick.

0:27:54.336 --> 0:27:55.517
Yeah, it's a prick move.

0:27:55.596 --> 0:27:56.417
It was a prick move.

0:27:56.998 --> 0:27:58.219
But it made Hogan look like

0:27:58.818 --> 0:28:01.480
every move was just, oh,

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:02.402
he's killing him.

0:28:02.521 --> 0:28:03.583
He's killing him.

0:28:04.380 --> 0:28:05.359
Yeah.

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:06.080
It was good.

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:08.741
It was good, man.

0:28:08.821 --> 0:28:10.362
That promo segment they did

0:28:11.623 --> 0:28:12.982
before that with Michaels

0:28:13.002 --> 0:28:15.743
dressed up as Hogan, that was good.

0:28:15.804 --> 0:28:16.464
That was good stuff.

0:28:17.164 --> 0:28:18.785
They don't do stuff like that anymore.

0:28:18.845 --> 0:28:19.826
No, they don't.

0:28:20.266 --> 0:28:20.766
They don't.

0:28:21.066 --> 0:28:21.506
They don't.

0:28:21.605 --> 0:28:22.126
But, yeah.

0:28:23.207 --> 0:28:24.847
One of my favorite – I don't

0:28:24.867 --> 0:28:26.147
know if it's actually a top

0:28:26.208 --> 0:28:28.048
match because of how, you know,

0:28:28.068 --> 0:28:30.309
the selling was,

0:28:30.430 --> 0:28:32.009
but I think for me it's one

0:28:32.049 --> 0:28:33.711
of my favorite matches watching him in.

0:28:34.596 --> 0:28:36.538
Because it was supposed to

0:28:36.557 --> 0:28:37.938
be like this grand.

0:28:38.018 --> 0:28:38.857
It was supposed to be like

0:28:39.638 --> 0:28:40.358
Hogan and the Rock.

0:28:41.298 --> 0:28:41.519
Right.

0:28:42.140 --> 0:28:43.200
It was supposed to be like that,

0:28:43.259 --> 0:28:44.359
but it ended up being.

0:28:45.661 --> 0:28:46.141
What it was.

0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:46.780
Yeah.

0:28:48.041 --> 0:28:48.301
Yeah.

0:28:50.041 --> 0:28:52.182
So my next one on the list

0:28:52.502 --> 0:28:54.784
is going to go back to WCW.

0:28:56.432 --> 0:28:58.653
And I'm going to go with

0:28:59.174 --> 0:29:03.178
Hulk Hogan versus Sting, starting 97.

0:29:03.178 --> 0:29:04.519
Now, people will be thinking like,

0:29:04.799 --> 0:29:06.201
why the hell would you pick that match?

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:07.122
Well, it's very simple.

0:29:07.642 --> 0:29:08.722
If you actually go back and

0:29:08.823 --> 0:29:11.145
watch the match for what it was,

0:29:11.365 --> 0:29:12.547
it was actually a pretty good match.

0:29:12.866 --> 0:29:13.508
It told the story,

0:29:13.607 --> 0:29:15.269
but it didn't do any favors

0:29:15.288 --> 0:29:16.871
for Sting because Hogan

0:29:16.911 --> 0:29:18.332
dominated the entire match.

0:29:18.471 --> 0:29:20.673
And had they not did, the finish they did,

0:29:20.713 --> 0:29:21.714
because, I mean, legitimately,

0:29:21.755 --> 0:29:22.536
Hogan won the match.

0:29:23.499 --> 0:29:25.459
I mean, there was no fast count.

0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:28.380
Hogan legitimately won the match.

0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:29.180
He beat Sting.

0:29:29.539 --> 0:29:31.201
Right, right.

0:29:31.820 --> 0:29:33.121
And you can tell by the crowd.

0:29:33.161 --> 0:29:34.641
The crowd was like, what?

0:29:35.721 --> 0:29:35.961
Right.

0:29:36.662 --> 0:29:38.041
We waited a year for this?

0:29:38.882 --> 0:29:39.142
Right.

0:29:39.981 --> 0:29:41.123
So I'm going to pick that one.

0:29:42.403 --> 0:29:42.782
Okay.

0:29:44.222 --> 0:29:44.542
All right.

0:29:45.383 --> 0:29:46.983
I am going to go to the

0:29:47.023 --> 0:29:48.384
beginning of Hulkamania.

0:29:50.523 --> 0:29:52.884
Hulk Hogan versus the Iron Sheik.

0:29:56.054 --> 0:29:56.615
40 years ago.

0:30:00.256 --> 0:30:02.435
And we got a comment here.

0:30:02.476 --> 0:30:03.537
I'll get to it in a second.

0:30:04.037 --> 0:30:06.837
But that match, that match,

0:30:07.397 --> 0:30:08.678
a lot of people don't give

0:30:08.738 --> 0:30:10.358
it enough credit, I don't think.

0:30:13.078 --> 0:30:14.400
Because the Iron Sheik was

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:15.720
the guy to beat Bob

0:30:15.839 --> 0:30:19.240
Backlund into one of the

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:21.942
longest streaks in WWE history.

0:30:25.344 --> 0:30:26.523
WWF, you know what I mean.

0:30:26.784 --> 0:30:32.945
But he had like lava heat on him.

0:30:33.807 --> 0:30:34.946
And that set him up

0:30:35.067 --> 0:30:38.608
perfectly for Hulk Hogan.

0:30:39.548 --> 0:30:42.109
And not a long match at all, man.

0:30:42.529 --> 0:30:44.730
That match was maybe five minutes.

0:30:45.590 --> 0:30:45.871
Right.

0:30:46.892 --> 0:30:49.873
And for that to be the

0:30:49.932 --> 0:30:52.953
testament of a generation of

0:30:54.394 --> 0:30:56.576
of people and their fandom.

0:30:57.237 --> 0:30:58.377
Like, it's crazy.

0:30:59.018 --> 0:30:59.738
It's crazy.

0:31:01.819 --> 0:31:03.681
Storytelling in that amount

0:31:03.721 --> 0:31:06.201
of time is nuts, bro.

0:31:06.923 --> 0:31:07.462
It's nuts.

0:31:08.304 --> 0:31:09.084
Five minutes.

0:31:10.964 --> 0:31:11.965
And we're talking about the

0:31:12.586 --> 0:31:15.528
legacy of the next 40 years of this man.

0:31:15.768 --> 0:31:17.388
We're celebrating 40 years

0:31:17.848 --> 0:31:19.029
based off five minutes.

0:31:20.250 --> 0:31:21.090
Well, let me tell you this.

0:31:21.912 --> 0:31:22.112
So

0:31:23.806 --> 0:31:24.885
None of that would never

0:31:24.925 --> 0:31:27.527
have happened had Hogan not

0:31:27.586 --> 0:31:29.768
gone to New York first to

0:31:29.788 --> 0:31:30.867
work for Vince Singer.

0:31:31.228 --> 0:31:31.508
Yep.

0:31:32.249 --> 0:31:34.088
And then did the Rocky movie,

0:31:34.868 --> 0:31:36.930
which got him to the AWA.

0:31:38.009 --> 0:31:40.351
Started Hulkamania in AWA.

0:31:40.931 --> 0:31:41.191
Yep.

0:31:42.031 --> 0:31:43.971
Then went on to the WWF and

0:31:43.991 --> 0:31:44.972
had to match with The Sheik

0:31:45.272 --> 0:31:45.972
and then went on.

0:31:46.884 --> 0:31:47.964
And, uh, hell yeah.

0:31:48.244 --> 0:31:48.765
Rocky.

0:31:48.884 --> 0:31:49.325
Absolutely.

0:31:49.585 --> 0:31:50.806
Thunder lips, brother.

0:31:51.006 --> 0:31:51.185
Yeah.

0:31:51.226 --> 0:31:52.547
Yeah.

0:31:52.946 --> 0:31:54.347
That was just, yeah, that,

0:31:54.407 --> 0:31:55.288
that was just great there.

0:31:55.868 --> 0:31:57.128
See Hogan with a full head of hair.

0:31:57.169 --> 0:31:57.549
My God.

0:31:58.170 --> 0:32:02.451
But, uh, um, yeah, man, it's just, it's,

0:32:02.571 --> 0:32:03.452
it's just crazy how it

0:32:03.692 --> 0:32:04.432
exploded after that.

0:32:04.692 --> 0:32:05.574
And Hogan was grinding.

0:32:05.594 --> 0:32:06.153
He was hustling.

0:32:06.693 --> 0:32:07.555
You know what I'm saying?

0:32:07.575 --> 0:32:08.174
Like big time.

0:32:08.535 --> 0:32:08.855
Yeah.

0:32:08.875 --> 0:32:10.895
But Hogan did some heel work before that.

0:32:11.457 --> 0:32:13.817
I remember seeing a match with Hogan was,

0:32:14.057 --> 0:32:14.117
um,

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:16.080
The Incredible Hulk Hogan

0:32:16.121 --> 0:32:17.402
managed by classy Freddie

0:32:17.422 --> 0:32:19.744
Blassie versus Andre the

0:32:19.785 --> 0:32:22.047
Giant at Shea Stadium.

0:32:23.387 --> 0:32:25.770
And he slammed Andre like it

0:32:25.790 --> 0:32:26.411
wasn't nothing.

0:32:27.211 --> 0:32:27.732
You know what I mean?

0:32:27.972 --> 0:32:28.252
Yeah.

0:32:29.615 --> 0:32:29.914
Yeah.

0:32:30.275 --> 0:32:32.917
So the next match on my list,

0:32:33.818 --> 0:32:35.881
which I thought was a good Hogan match,

0:32:36.441 --> 0:32:37.021
and it actually-

0:32:37.607 --> 0:32:38.667
made somebody it was some

0:32:38.708 --> 0:32:39.728
controversy there for a

0:32:39.768 --> 0:32:40.989
little while because hogan

0:32:41.009 --> 0:32:42.808
said you know this guy did

0:32:42.828 --> 0:32:43.388
something to him which

0:32:43.429 --> 0:32:44.529
turned out to be bs and

0:32:44.869 --> 0:32:46.230
this guy carried guilt for

0:32:46.269 --> 0:32:48.049
years about it until he

0:32:48.089 --> 0:32:49.671
watched the tape and saw

0:32:49.691 --> 0:32:50.471
that he didn't do anything

0:32:50.490 --> 0:32:52.330
wrong he was protected I'm

0:32:52.371 --> 0:32:54.771
talking about hogan versus

0:32:54.832 --> 0:32:56.471
the undertaker survivor

0:32:56.491 --> 0:32:59.432
series 91 wwf championship in which

0:33:00.046 --> 0:33:02.247
Hulk Hogan lost the belt to the Undertaker,

0:33:02.487 --> 0:33:03.847
did the favors.

0:33:04.647 --> 0:33:08.951
Taker tombstoned Hogan on a steel chair.

0:33:09.290 --> 0:33:11.031
But if you watch the tape,

0:33:12.471 --> 0:33:15.314
Hogan's neck never hit the chair.

0:33:15.733 --> 0:33:17.934
He was in Taker's knees, okay,

0:33:18.335 --> 0:33:19.816
in between his legs, his thighs.

0:33:20.576 --> 0:33:23.178
So Hogan's on the mat

0:33:23.258 --> 0:33:24.798
selling this and holding his neck,

0:33:24.858 --> 0:33:26.680
whatever, and he's like, oh, brother,

0:33:26.700 --> 0:33:27.460
you know, you really hurt.

0:33:28.294 --> 0:33:30.914
So Taker felt like shit for

0:33:31.035 --> 0:33:33.855
a while because he thought he hurt Hogan.

0:33:34.355 --> 0:33:35.737
And so he actually went back

0:33:35.797 --> 0:33:37.116
and watched the tape and said,

0:33:37.237 --> 0:33:37.656
wait a minute.

0:33:38.576 --> 0:33:40.837
I had that dude like that.

0:33:40.877 --> 0:33:42.318
They had some heat for that for years.

0:33:44.439 --> 0:33:47.400
So, yeah, but that's better for me.

0:33:47.460 --> 0:33:48.181
Young kid.

0:33:48.221 --> 0:33:48.861
Watch that match.

0:33:49.020 --> 0:33:49.260
Yeah.

0:33:49.941 --> 0:33:51.461
Taker is a young kid, man.

0:33:52.221 --> 0:33:52.481
Yeah.

0:33:52.541 --> 0:33:53.583
Got to make him feel bad.

0:33:54.722 --> 0:33:54.883
Right.

0:33:55.548 --> 0:33:58.872
But I like that one.

0:33:59.011 --> 0:34:00.252
So we have a comment here that says,

0:34:00.292 --> 0:34:01.554
no bigger reaction to a

0:34:01.614 --> 0:34:02.453
title win I ever saw.

0:34:03.035 --> 0:34:04.816
I'm going to go one real quick.

0:34:04.996 --> 0:34:06.277
It's not my number one choice,

0:34:06.458 --> 0:34:08.920
but I'm going to say this one.

0:34:09.739 --> 0:34:10.740
I'm going to put a bonus one

0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:11.221
in real quick.

0:34:11.722 --> 0:34:11.961
Okay.

0:34:12.001 --> 0:34:16.505
So it was Hogan.

0:34:16.786 --> 0:34:17.166
Once again,

0:34:17.186 --> 0:34:19.188
it's another Hollywood-Hogan match.

0:34:19.367 --> 0:34:21.088
Hollywood-Hogan versus Lex

0:34:21.148 --> 0:34:24.351
Luger from Monday Nitro, Detroit.

0:34:25.349 --> 0:34:27.231
When Luger beat Hogan for the belt,

0:34:27.971 --> 0:34:30.092
that place went crazy.

0:34:30.632 --> 0:34:31.351
Banana.

0:34:32.012 --> 0:34:34.313
Oh, hell yeah.

0:34:34.373 --> 0:34:36.134
That was crazy.

0:34:36.653 --> 0:34:37.554
We talk about reactions,

0:34:37.594 --> 0:34:38.715
just good reactions.

0:34:39.536 --> 0:34:40.998
Go back and watch that.

0:34:41.018 --> 0:34:42.099
You can find it on YouTube.

0:34:42.119 --> 0:34:43.380
You can find it on WWE Network,

0:34:43.420 --> 0:34:43.940
on Peacock.

0:34:44.420 --> 0:34:47.003
That episode of Nitro, Hogan versus Luger.

0:34:47.402 --> 0:34:48.304
It's probably one of Luger's

0:34:48.344 --> 0:34:49.425
best matches he ever had.

0:34:49.445 --> 0:34:52.166
That place exploded.

0:34:52.666 --> 0:34:53.867
And then it all went to shit

0:34:53.887 --> 0:34:55.068
because Hogan won the belt

0:34:55.108 --> 0:34:56.389
a couple days later at Road Wild.

0:34:59.492 --> 0:34:59.713
Yep.

0:35:00.512 --> 0:35:01.373
It sure did.

0:35:02.175 --> 0:35:03.416
That doesn't work for me, brother.

0:35:04.536 --> 0:35:05.536
So I'm going to go.

0:35:06.297 --> 0:35:07.338
My next one's going to be

0:35:09.599 --> 0:35:10.818
Hulk Hogan versus The Rock.

0:35:12.300 --> 0:35:12.719
Of course.

0:35:15.601 --> 0:35:18.822
Listen, man, this is me in my teen years.

0:35:19.402 --> 0:35:23.344
This is two of the biggest

0:35:25.065 --> 0:35:26.784
wrestlers of that generation.

0:35:27.746 --> 0:35:28.025
Right.

0:35:29.326 --> 0:35:31.507
And the way they built that was like,

0:35:31.547 --> 0:35:32.708
you're never going to see

0:35:32.907 --> 0:35:33.847
Ali Tyson again.

0:35:34.922 --> 0:35:36.724
But you're going to see Hogan Rock.

0:35:36.884 --> 0:35:38.885
And that shit... Because I was a boxer.

0:35:39.246 --> 0:35:40.465
I'm still a boxing fan.

0:35:40.565 --> 0:35:42.947
But that shit hit me like a ton of bricks.

0:35:42.987 --> 0:35:44.088
Like, yeah, man.

0:35:44.268 --> 0:35:45.329
That was a what if.

0:35:46.489 --> 0:35:48.831
Tyson versus Ali is the biggest what if.

0:35:48.891 --> 0:35:50.652
And what if they fought?

0:35:50.711 --> 0:35:52.012
What that fight would look like?

0:35:52.172 --> 0:35:52.773
I don't know.

0:35:53.373 --> 0:35:55.454
But I do know that I get to

0:35:55.534 --> 0:35:58.657
see The Rock versus Hulk

0:35:58.717 --> 0:36:03.039
Hogan at WrestleMania in Toronto.

0:36:03.500 --> 0:36:03.599
And...

0:36:05.702 --> 0:36:07.824
That crowd, legendary.

0:36:08.824 --> 0:36:09.585
Legendary.

0:36:10.164 --> 0:36:11.186
So let me ask you this question.

0:36:11.565 --> 0:36:12.405
So when you go back to that

0:36:12.465 --> 0:36:13.947
match between Hogan and The Rock,

0:36:15.967 --> 0:36:17.668
remember Hogan came in that

0:36:17.728 --> 0:36:20.449
year in February as part of the NWO.

0:36:20.510 --> 0:36:22.170
He was back to being Hollywood Hogan.

0:36:22.471 --> 0:36:22.690
Right.

0:36:22.791 --> 0:36:26.472
So do you think that the

0:36:26.492 --> 0:36:27.333
reaction would have been

0:36:27.393 --> 0:36:28.474
bigger if Hogan had came

0:36:28.534 --> 0:36:29.353
back in the red and yellow?

0:36:32.092 --> 0:36:32.192
Oh,

0:36:32.251 --> 0:36:34.172
that's such a tough question to answer.

0:36:34.914 --> 0:36:36.994
I don't know.

0:36:37.655 --> 0:36:38.275
I don't know.

0:36:38.635 --> 0:36:42.297
But I do know... I do know

0:36:42.358 --> 0:36:43.639
you needed... You kind of

0:36:43.659 --> 0:36:44.938
needed Hogan to be the heel.

0:36:46.099 --> 0:36:46.300
Yeah.

0:36:47.501 --> 0:36:49.001
Because the whole thing is like,

0:36:49.101 --> 0:36:51.103
he had to be... So when

0:36:51.202 --> 0:36:52.264
Hogan's last appearance...

0:36:53.081 --> 0:36:55.501
In WCW, at Bastion Beach 2000,

0:36:55.501 --> 0:36:56.722
he was Hollywood Hulk Hogan.

0:36:56.882 --> 0:36:57.202
Right.

0:36:57.463 --> 0:36:59.023
He had reverted back to that gimmick.

0:36:59.043 --> 0:37:00.583
So that's the last time you saw him.

0:37:00.963 --> 0:37:01.284
Right.

0:37:01.503 --> 0:37:03.784
You know, before, you know,

0:37:04.025 --> 0:37:05.065
and the little stuff he did after.

0:37:05.085 --> 0:37:06.065
Because remember,

0:37:06.186 --> 0:37:08.286
after Bastion Beach controversy,

0:37:08.326 --> 0:37:10.086
he never went back to work for WCW.

0:37:10.467 --> 0:37:10.706
Right.

0:37:10.746 --> 0:37:14.528
He showed up with Jimmy Hart with the XWF,

0:37:15.289 --> 0:37:17.028
which he was back in the red and yellow.

0:37:17.389 --> 0:37:19.590
But then when they got the call, they said,

0:37:19.610 --> 0:37:21.271
okay, we're going to do the NWO angle.

0:37:21.806 --> 0:37:22.467
They brought him back as

0:37:22.487 --> 0:37:23.268
Hollywood or whatever.

0:37:23.547 --> 0:37:24.108
But you're right.

0:37:24.329 --> 0:37:25.871
Hogan had to come back as a heel.

0:37:25.952 --> 0:37:26.932
It only made sense because

0:37:26.992 --> 0:37:28.034
Rock was just too popular.

0:37:28.454 --> 0:37:29.717
But once again,

0:37:30.438 --> 0:37:32.760
they kind of misjudged the crowd.

0:37:32.780 --> 0:37:34.143
Bro, once they got in that ring,

0:37:34.402 --> 0:37:35.364
all the bets were off.

0:37:35.485 --> 0:37:36.887
No one knew that was going to happen.

0:37:37.460 --> 0:37:38.422
All the bets were off.

0:37:38.581 --> 0:37:40.543
And that's what made it a great match,

0:37:40.684 --> 0:37:41.244
honestly.

0:37:41.784 --> 0:37:44.567
And that spoke a lot to The Rock, too.

0:37:45.166 --> 0:37:47.088
At the time, I didn't realize this.

0:37:48.690 --> 0:37:49.791
Actually, I realized it,

0:37:49.831 --> 0:37:51.271
but I didn't really grasp

0:37:51.351 --> 0:37:52.552
it like I do now.

0:37:54.086 --> 0:37:56.248
For The Rock to flip on the

0:37:56.347 --> 0:37:58.389
drop of a dime is some of

0:37:58.409 --> 0:38:01.731
the most legendary shit ever, bro.

0:38:02.190 --> 0:38:02.590
Ever.

0:38:03.271 --> 0:38:05.913
He turned at the drop of a hat.

0:38:06.052 --> 0:38:08.094
Once he figured out, oh,

0:38:08.134 --> 0:38:09.554
they're really with Hulk Hogan.

0:38:10.215 --> 0:38:10.695
Okay.

0:38:11.094 --> 0:38:12.635
Well, you be the good guy.

0:38:12.876 --> 0:38:14.416
I'll be the bad guy.

0:38:14.677 --> 0:38:16.617
They did this shit mid-match, man.

0:38:17.257 --> 0:38:17.978
Mid-match.

0:38:18.458 --> 0:38:19.798
No talking to nobody.

0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:21.159
No nothing.

0:38:21.239 --> 0:38:23.240
Just, all right, you're the good guy now.

0:38:24.295 --> 0:38:27.715
That's just how you feel the crowd,

0:38:27.775 --> 0:38:29.856
you feel the energy, you go with it.

0:38:30.016 --> 0:38:31.518
And that's what they did in that match.

0:38:31.838 --> 0:38:35.179
And I guess my last one I'm going to pick,

0:38:35.199 --> 0:38:37.280
and there's just so many Hogan matches,

0:38:37.300 --> 0:38:38.380
you can't do it justice.

0:38:39.181 --> 0:38:40.722
But this one here,

0:38:42.443 --> 0:38:45.204
it's not so much the match,

0:38:45.463 --> 0:38:47.025
but it's the story that's

0:38:47.264 --> 0:38:48.644
in the match of what's going on here.

0:38:48.704 --> 0:38:50.186
Because it was something cool they did.

0:38:50.606 --> 0:38:52.626
So my final match is going to be

0:38:53.836 --> 0:38:55.476
The WWF Championship is the

0:38:55.538 --> 0:38:57.617
debut of the winged eagle belt.

0:38:58.257 --> 0:38:59.679
It's Hulk Hogan defending

0:38:59.699 --> 0:39:00.619
the championship against

0:39:00.659 --> 0:39:02.039
the eighth wonder of the world,

0:39:02.599 --> 0:39:03.360
Andre the Giant.

0:39:04.119 --> 0:39:05.639
With the million dollar man,

0:39:06.001 --> 0:39:08.001
Ted DiBiase and Virgil in his corner.

0:39:08.641 --> 0:39:09.320
And if you remember,

0:39:09.762 --> 0:39:11.942
they pulled the twin referee deal here.

0:39:12.862 --> 0:39:14.583
They had Earl Hefner.

0:39:14.782 --> 0:39:15.143
Yeah.

0:39:15.163 --> 0:39:17.003
Earl Hefner made his debut

0:39:17.764 --> 0:39:19.264
as the evil referee.

0:39:19.304 --> 0:39:20.304
And then him and his brother

0:39:20.324 --> 0:39:21.425
got into a big thing and

0:39:22.280 --> 0:39:22.960
Hogan was like, oh,

0:39:22.981 --> 0:39:25.063
they did the plastic surgery, brother.

0:39:25.483 --> 0:39:29.487
So that's also when Andre

0:39:29.527 --> 0:39:31.030
Giant did the bodge and says,

0:39:31.130 --> 0:39:32.532
I want to give, you know,

0:39:32.612 --> 0:39:34.012
present Mr. DiBiase with

0:39:34.032 --> 0:39:35.494
the world tag team championship.

0:39:37.257 --> 0:39:37.956
So you're talking about the

0:39:37.976 --> 0:39:38.838
Saturday night one.

0:39:39.619 --> 0:39:40.099
The main event.

0:39:40.500 --> 0:39:41.081
The main event.

0:39:41.121 --> 0:39:41.380
Yeah.

0:39:41.862 --> 0:39:42.001
Yeah.

0:39:42.365 --> 0:39:42.706
Correct.

0:39:42.786 --> 0:39:43.407
Not WrestleMania 3.

0:39:43.447 --> 0:39:45.128
Because that would be too cliche.

0:39:45.208 --> 0:39:46.568
Everybody knows WrestleMania 3.

0:39:47.329 --> 0:39:48.829
I'm talking about the match

0:39:48.869 --> 0:39:49.769
that was the biggest

0:39:50.110 --> 0:39:51.911
drawing match in television history.

0:39:52.771 --> 0:39:53.893
Which was the main event.

0:39:54.552 --> 0:39:54.893
Okay.

0:39:55.393 --> 0:39:55.954
I like that.

0:39:56.793 --> 0:39:57.315
I like that.

0:39:58.135 --> 0:39:59.315
I'm not even mad at that.

0:39:59.996 --> 0:40:01.637
And historical reference is

0:40:01.697 --> 0:40:04.579
the debut of Wayne Deagle.

0:40:04.778 --> 0:40:05.820
I like it.

0:40:06.079 --> 0:40:07.000
The big one.

0:40:07.159 --> 0:40:07.880
I just said that.

0:40:08.420 --> 0:40:09.061
That's what I'm saying.

0:40:09.581 --> 0:40:09.661
I'm...

0:40:10.713 --> 0:40:11.173
I'm agreeing.

0:40:11.253 --> 0:40:12.775
Yeah, I mentioned that.

0:40:13.054 --> 0:40:13.635
Yes, sir.

0:40:13.934 --> 0:40:14.414
I'm agreeing.

0:40:14.434 --> 0:40:14.815
Yes, sir.

0:40:15.195 --> 0:40:15.596
Yes, sir.

0:40:16.215 --> 0:40:18.135
All right.

0:40:19.317 --> 0:40:20.077
I am also.

0:40:20.416 --> 0:40:21.478
I'm going to go cliche.

0:40:21.498 --> 0:40:22.657
Go ahead.

0:40:23.157 --> 0:40:26.059
Because if we don't get here.

0:40:26.358 --> 0:40:29.340
So two matches that I stated,

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:31.081
we don't get Hulkamania

0:40:31.121 --> 0:40:32.240
without these two matches.

0:40:33.101 --> 0:40:34.802
And I know where you're going.

0:40:35.561 --> 0:40:37.822
We get WrestleMania three.

0:40:39.686 --> 0:40:41.827
Hulk Hogan versus Andre the Giant.

0:40:42.268 --> 0:40:43.208
I'm not sure if we're

0:40:43.248 --> 0:40:44.469
sitting here talking about

0:40:44.509 --> 0:40:46.630
Hulk Hogan if it wasn't for that match.

0:40:49.451 --> 0:40:51.391
Maybe we are, but- We are,

0:40:51.472 --> 0:40:52.452
but that was a big one.

0:40:52.913 --> 0:40:53.713
That was a big one.

0:40:54.333 --> 0:40:54.652
Yeah.

0:40:54.733 --> 0:40:55.494
That was a big one.

0:40:56.213 --> 0:40:56.514
Yeah.

0:40:56.614 --> 0:40:58.195
That match probably made

0:40:58.275 --> 0:40:59.454
WrestleMania what it is.

0:41:00.335 --> 0:41:00.576
Right.

0:41:01.815 --> 0:41:03.097
The sheer spectacle.

0:41:03.657 --> 0:41:05.297
Well, it was that match-

0:41:07.208 --> 0:41:09.449
It was that match that made it what it is,

0:41:09.570 --> 0:41:12.193
a spectacle, just what WrestleMania is.

0:41:12.313 --> 0:41:13.494
But there was another match

0:41:13.594 --> 0:41:15.936
on that show that from a

0:41:15.996 --> 0:41:18.278
work rate rise that it surpassed.

0:41:18.480 --> 0:41:21.322
Are you talking about Macho and Steamboat?

0:41:21.902 --> 0:41:22.403
Absolutely.

0:41:22.443 --> 0:41:24.326
That's one of my favorite matches ever,

0:41:24.346 --> 0:41:24.425
bro.

0:41:24.585 --> 0:41:25.927
Honorable mention here.

0:41:25.947 --> 0:41:27.409
It's not even an honorable mention.

0:41:27.449 --> 0:41:28.088
What the hell with it?

0:41:28.108 --> 0:41:28.530
It's not a game.

0:41:28.550 --> 0:41:29.170
We do what we want.

0:41:31.103 --> 0:41:32.465
The mega powers explode.

0:41:32.864 --> 0:41:33.706
WrestleMania 5.

0:41:34.365 --> 0:41:36.208
Hogan versus Macho Man.

0:41:36.768 --> 0:41:39.429
The match that was built in

0:41:40.291 --> 0:41:41.751
a year to build.

0:41:42.271 --> 0:41:42.452
Yep.

0:41:42.793 --> 0:41:43.052
You know?

0:41:43.472 --> 0:41:44.853
So that's another one.

0:41:44.873 --> 0:41:45.994
Then you want to talk further.

0:41:46.014 --> 0:41:48.356
Let's talk Ultimate Warrior

0:41:48.836 --> 0:41:49.438
versus Hulk Hogan.

0:41:49.458 --> 0:41:50.137
WrestleMania 6.

0:41:51.039 --> 0:41:52.139
WrestleMania 6.

0:41:52.639 --> 0:41:54.601
It was Warrior's best match he ever had.

0:41:54.621 --> 0:41:55.061
Yep.

0:41:56.106 --> 0:41:57.007
I was just about to say that.

0:41:57.047 --> 0:41:57.268
Yep.

0:41:58.068 --> 0:42:00.911
Get on the plane, Hulk Hogan.

0:42:01.972 --> 0:42:04.773
Talk to the pilot, Hulk Hogan.

0:42:05.114 --> 0:42:06.554
What the fuck is he saying?

0:42:06.815 --> 0:42:07.436
I don't know,

0:42:07.516 --> 0:42:08.777
but I want to see this match.

0:42:09.597 --> 0:42:10.318
Yeah.

0:42:12.119 --> 0:42:13.460
Look, Total of Time says,

0:42:13.840 --> 0:42:14.802
he said the same thing.

0:42:15.242 --> 0:42:15.922
Credit to Hogan.

0:42:15.943 --> 0:42:16.842
He gave Warrior the best

0:42:16.882 --> 0:42:17.684
match of his career.

0:42:18.625 --> 0:42:20.706
Too bad that it could not be

0:42:20.766 --> 0:42:22.007
duplicated in 1998.

0:42:22.007 --> 0:42:22.748
Oh, my God.

0:42:22.947 --> 0:42:23.027
Oh.

0:42:25.632 --> 0:42:26.932
That match is terrible.

0:42:26.952 --> 0:42:29.653
That match is terrible.

0:42:30.634 --> 0:42:32.614
Yeah.

0:42:33.954 --> 0:42:35.856
Another honorable mention is

0:42:37.717 --> 0:42:39.637
Hollywood Hogan versus

0:42:39.858 --> 0:42:41.599
Triple H. Back last 2002

0:42:41.599 --> 0:42:45.219
for the WWF Undisputed Championship.

0:42:46.481 --> 0:42:47.840
Why don't I remember that, Matt?

0:42:48.762 --> 0:42:50.342
I was deployed a lot.

0:42:51.302 --> 0:42:52.202
I don't remember that match.

0:42:53.014 --> 0:42:53.916
Well, he beat him.

0:42:54.635 --> 0:42:55.677
Hulkamania was born again.

0:42:58.018 --> 0:43:00.561
This was after Mania?

0:43:01.541 --> 0:43:02.121
Yeah, this was 2002.

0:43:03.003 --> 0:43:04.204
Hogan was basically wearing

0:43:04.224 --> 0:43:04.784
a red and yellow,

0:43:04.824 --> 0:43:05.864
but he had the black beard,

0:43:05.885 --> 0:43:07.126
so he was still Hollywood Hogan,

0:43:07.146 --> 0:43:08.067
but he just wore a red and yellow.

0:43:08.927 --> 0:43:09.228
Huh.

0:43:10.347 --> 0:43:12.130
Yeah, Voodoo Child was his theme song,

0:43:12.550 --> 0:43:14.791
which you cannot hear, obviously,

0:43:15.052 --> 0:43:15.813
on the WWE Network.

0:43:16.213 --> 0:43:16.853
Yeah.

0:43:18.518 --> 0:43:19.579
I'm going to have to look for that.

0:43:19.599 --> 0:43:21.500
I don't remember that.

0:43:21.619 --> 0:43:23.380
Yeah, if you go on the WWE Network,

0:43:23.420 --> 0:43:26.221
it's called Backlash 2002.

0:43:26.221 --> 0:43:26.981
And it's the main event.

0:43:27.601 --> 0:43:28.442
Huh, okay.

0:43:30.143 --> 0:43:30.842
Oh, look at this.

0:43:31.742 --> 0:43:33.724
This comment is, this is up there.

0:43:33.744 --> 0:43:35.884
I actually agree with this one.

0:43:36.704 --> 0:43:37.905
I actually agree with this one.

0:43:38.065 --> 0:43:40.266
Any match Hogan wrestled in Japan.

0:43:40.565 --> 0:43:41.065
Yep, yep.

0:43:41.465 --> 0:43:43.347
So you can do Hogan versus Noki,

0:43:43.706 --> 0:43:44.666
Hogan versus Buddha.

0:43:45.246 --> 0:43:46.467
That's one of my favorite

0:43:46.487 --> 0:43:47.367
matches I saw in Japan.

0:43:48.378 --> 0:43:49.760
Hogan in Japan was different.

0:43:50.440 --> 0:43:51.081
Yeah, hell yeah,

0:43:51.121 --> 0:43:51.900
because he said he can go

0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:52.942
over there and work.

0:43:52.961 --> 0:43:53.722
He said it himself.

0:43:54.141 --> 0:43:54.742
He doesn't have to.

0:43:54.882 --> 0:43:56.943
He can go over there and actually wrestle.

0:43:56.983 --> 0:43:57.724
He doesn't have to do any of

0:43:57.744 --> 0:43:59.105
the bullshit he has to do here.

0:43:59.125 --> 0:43:59.985
That's what he said.

0:44:00.485 --> 0:44:00.746
Right.

0:44:01.827 --> 0:44:02.027
Yeah.

0:44:02.327 --> 0:44:03.188
Hogan in Japan.

0:44:03.927 --> 0:44:04.228
Yeah.

0:44:05.289 --> 0:44:07.130
And shout out to the tape

0:44:07.150 --> 0:44:08.530
traders because I didn't catch this.

0:44:08.771 --> 0:44:09.992
I didn't catch these until I

0:44:10.032 --> 0:44:12.713
was older and knew about shit like that.

0:44:12.773 --> 0:44:15.614
But I had one of my shout out to Tracy.

0:44:15.675 --> 0:44:16.735
He was a tape trader.

0:44:17.590 --> 0:44:18.490
from where I grew up.

0:44:18.811 --> 0:44:19.891
And that's how I found out

0:44:19.931 --> 0:44:21.992
about All Japan and all

0:44:22.052 --> 0:44:23.653
that shit they had going on over there.

0:44:23.914 --> 0:44:24.394
But yeah.

0:44:25.514 --> 0:44:26.135
Shout out to Hogan.

0:44:27.155 --> 0:44:28.577
I'm going to mention another

0:44:28.717 --> 0:44:30.478
honorable mention match.

0:44:30.677 --> 0:44:32.318
And it's going to go back to

0:44:32.918 --> 0:44:35.400
No Way Out 2003.

0:44:35.400 --> 0:44:36.440
The Rock Hogan 2.

0:44:37.981 --> 0:44:38.822
Oh, yes.

0:44:39.541 --> 0:44:40.182
Yes.

0:44:41.282 --> 0:44:41.822
Yes.

0:44:42.764 --> 0:44:43.643
Shout out to Total of Time.

0:44:43.664 --> 0:44:45.184
He said he was a tape trader.

0:44:46.045 --> 0:44:46.346
But yeah.

0:44:47.492 --> 0:44:47.791
Yes,

0:44:48.231 --> 0:44:50.313
the build-up to that match was amazing,

0:44:50.353 --> 0:44:50.552
too.

0:44:50.572 --> 0:44:51.474
Oh, it was Hollywood Rock?

0:44:51.514 --> 0:44:52.934
Hollywood Rock, yes.

0:44:53.675 --> 0:44:54.815
I think Hollywood Rock is

0:44:54.855 --> 0:44:56.155
the best version of The Rock.

0:45:00.237 --> 0:45:00.557
I do.

0:45:01.257 --> 0:45:02.878
So Hollywood Rock was, yeah,

0:45:03.119 --> 0:45:03.858
he was good there,

0:45:03.918 --> 0:45:06.119
but I like Nation Rock.

0:45:07.581 --> 0:45:09.081
Nation Rock was good, too.

0:45:09.481 --> 0:45:11.181
Yeah, Nation Rock was good, too.

0:45:11.262 --> 0:45:12.443
I'm not talking about Nation

0:45:12.463 --> 0:45:13.163
or Domination.

0:45:13.202 --> 0:45:14.224
I'm talking about The Nation.

0:45:14.724 --> 0:45:14.824
Yeah.

0:45:14.844 --> 0:45:15.324
I'm talking about

0:45:15.864 --> 0:45:17.987
You know, with Owen Hart on him,

0:45:18.047 --> 0:45:19.027
that's what I'm talking about.

0:45:19.068 --> 0:45:20.048
That version of The Rock, yeah.

0:45:21.230 --> 0:45:21.971
He was good.

0:45:22.070 --> 0:45:22.992
He was good there.

0:45:24.373 --> 0:45:24.793
Damn.

0:45:25.655 --> 0:45:26.434
Might have to come back to

0:45:26.474 --> 0:45:27.235
that conversation.

0:45:27.275 --> 0:45:28.677
What's the best version of The Rock?

0:45:29.739 --> 0:45:31.300
Yeah, that'd be a whole show in itself.

0:45:31.760 --> 0:45:33.141
Yeah, it would.

0:45:34.163 --> 0:45:35.543
Yeah.

0:45:35.804 --> 0:45:37.186
That's a good debate.

0:45:37.927 --> 0:45:39.327
That's a great debate, actually.

0:45:39.849 --> 0:45:40.610
And I'll mention another

0:45:40.650 --> 0:45:42.713
match that was pretty good.

0:45:43.172 --> 0:45:45.956
So I think it was the war to

0:45:45.976 --> 0:45:46.597
sell the score.

0:45:47.416 --> 0:45:48.637
Hogan versus Roddy Piper.

0:45:52.242 --> 0:45:52.943
I got one.

0:45:54.344 --> 0:45:55.405
Hogan versus Vader.

0:45:57.045 --> 0:45:57.367
Yes.

0:45:57.626 --> 0:45:59.489
Super Raw, 95, Baltimore.

0:46:00.108 --> 0:46:02.472
Where Hogan no sold the Vader bomb.

0:46:03.231 --> 0:46:03.492
Yes.

0:46:03.552 --> 0:46:04.733
Killed Vader just like that.

0:46:08.018 --> 0:46:08.797
Absolutely.

0:46:09.697 --> 0:46:10.458
Absolutely.

0:46:10.858 --> 0:46:11.679
Destroyed him.

0:46:14.139 --> 0:46:17.099
What do you think about

0:46:17.139 --> 0:46:18.440
Hogan versus Brock Lesnar?

0:46:21.860 --> 0:46:22.942
I think for what it was,

0:46:22.961 --> 0:46:23.961
and this is the thing that

0:46:23.981 --> 0:46:25.362
kills me with people when they say, well,

0:46:25.382 --> 0:46:26.262
Hogan didn't want to do the

0:46:26.302 --> 0:46:27.163
favor or say anybody.

0:46:27.422 --> 0:46:27.682
He did.

0:46:29.114 --> 0:46:31.335
You remember how many people

0:46:31.376 --> 0:46:33.978
Hogan put over in his return that year?

0:46:34.398 --> 0:46:35.719
Hogan wasn't winning many matches.

0:46:35.759 --> 0:46:37.420
Hogan was losing to Jericho.

0:46:37.900 --> 0:46:41.362
He was losing to Angle, Lesnar.

0:46:42.041 --> 0:46:43.322
I mean, The Rock.

0:46:44.322 --> 0:46:47.085
I mean, dude, he lost to The Rock twice.

0:46:48.105 --> 0:46:48.405
Yeah.

0:46:49.385 --> 0:46:51.166
You know what I mean?

0:46:51.186 --> 0:46:52.487
So people can say, well,

0:46:52.547 --> 0:46:53.708
Hogan didn't want to do business.

0:46:54.782 --> 0:46:55.101
Whatever.

0:46:55.963 --> 0:46:57.003
You know what?

0:46:57.123 --> 0:46:58.385
That's kind of similar.

0:46:59.146 --> 0:47:00.867
It's kind of similar to what

0:47:00.887 --> 0:47:04.451
they're saying about CM Punk.

0:47:05.831 --> 0:47:06.092
Yeah.

0:47:07.173 --> 0:47:08.755
CM Punk doesn't want to do business.

0:47:09.094 --> 0:47:10.697
But if you look at CM Punk in a rumble,

0:47:11.077 --> 0:47:12.177
he was getting his ass whooped.

0:47:12.579 --> 0:47:13.119
Handily.

0:47:14.621 --> 0:47:15.221
He did business.

0:47:15.702 --> 0:47:16.402
He did business.

0:47:18.985 --> 0:47:19.125
So...

0:47:20.454 --> 0:47:21.076
It just depends.

0:47:21.396 --> 0:47:24.179
I guess if WWE is that kind of last stop,

0:47:24.239 --> 0:47:28.463
I guess people, they do the favors.

0:47:29.005 --> 0:47:29.224
Well,

0:47:29.264 --> 0:47:30.806
Hogan had something to prove anyways.

0:47:31.266 --> 0:47:31.788
Yeah, true.

0:47:31.807 --> 0:47:34.690
Yeah, I mean, because McMahon told him,

0:47:34.771 --> 0:47:35.532
you got to bring it.

0:47:36.072 --> 0:47:36.532
You know what I mean?

0:47:41.065 --> 0:47:42.146
I agree with that.

0:47:42.385 --> 0:47:43.646
I will agree with that one too.

0:47:44.347 --> 0:47:45.527
Worst match of all time is

0:47:45.567 --> 0:47:47.628
the finger poke of doom.

0:47:48.849 --> 0:47:49.969
We had that discussion.

0:47:50.730 --> 0:47:51.130
We did.

0:47:51.170 --> 0:47:52.331
It's in the archive.

0:47:53.134 --> 0:47:54.934
But you notice when we're

0:47:54.954 --> 0:47:57.635
talking here about Hogan and WCW,

0:47:58.014 --> 0:47:59.375
we're only bringing up a few matches.

0:47:59.695 --> 0:48:01.715
Because Hogan did not have

0:48:01.755 --> 0:48:03.596
many memorable performances

0:48:03.936 --> 0:48:05.416
during his run at WCW.

0:48:06.817 --> 0:48:08.137
Yeah, yeah.

0:48:08.317 --> 0:48:09.817
Any match he ever did with

0:48:09.836 --> 0:48:14.657
the Giant was horrible.

0:48:15.478 --> 0:48:17.418
Hogan was trying to be the

0:48:17.458 --> 0:48:19.659
big match guy in WCW.

0:48:21.001 --> 0:48:21.721
He was trying to do WWF

0:48:21.740 --> 0:48:22.961
matches is pretty much what

0:48:23.001 --> 0:48:23.661
he was trying to do.

0:48:24.083 --> 0:48:24.382
Right.

0:48:24.682 --> 0:48:25.663
He was trying to do that,

0:48:25.722 --> 0:48:27.304
but it wasn't going over well.

0:48:28.405 --> 0:48:29.505
Sting, great.

0:48:29.704 --> 0:48:30.626
Flair, great.

0:48:30.686 --> 0:48:32.686
But these are like all-time

0:48:32.726 --> 0:48:33.947
great wrestlers that he's

0:48:33.987 --> 0:48:34.967
going to the ring against.

0:48:34.987 --> 0:48:35.407
Savage.

0:48:35.907 --> 0:48:36.188
Yeah.

0:48:36.208 --> 0:48:39.230
Like, if you put them in there,

0:48:39.269 --> 0:48:40.150
you put them in there with

0:48:40.190 --> 0:48:41.731
someone and it don't go well,

0:48:41.771 --> 0:48:44.472
then whose fault is it really?

0:48:46.534 --> 0:48:46.793
Well...

0:48:49.625 --> 0:48:51.445
They'll say that it's a

0:48:51.505 --> 0:48:52.967
person that's working with Hogan,

0:48:52.987 --> 0:48:53.447
not Hogan.

0:48:54.088 --> 0:48:54.367
Right.

0:48:55.608 --> 0:48:56.128
Exactly.

0:48:56.869 --> 0:48:57.088
Yeah.

0:48:58.869 --> 0:48:59.251
But yeah,

0:48:59.291 --> 0:49:02.331
the more memorable matches were in WWE.

0:49:02.431 --> 0:49:02.893
Absolutely.

0:49:03.373 --> 0:49:03.793
Absolutely.

0:49:04.934 --> 0:49:06.335
Yeah, I think we all can agree with that.

0:49:07.054 --> 0:49:07.315
Yeah.

0:49:08.096 --> 0:49:08.335
I mean-

0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:12.543
And I don't know what it is, man.

0:49:13.282 --> 0:49:14.623
Maybe it's me as a fan

0:49:15.405 --> 0:49:18.568
because I grew up watching him in WWF.

0:49:19.487 --> 0:49:23.231
And going into my teen years,

0:49:23.251 --> 0:49:24.431
he was in WCW.

0:49:24.632 --> 0:49:26.094
And those are two completely

0:49:26.134 --> 0:49:26.934
different products.

0:49:27.835 --> 0:49:28.936
And if you're trying to do

0:49:28.996 --> 0:49:30.217
the same thing that you did

0:49:30.277 --> 0:49:31.438
during that time frame,

0:49:31.498 --> 0:49:32.478
you're catering to a

0:49:32.539 --> 0:49:33.460
different type of fan.

0:49:35.202 --> 0:49:35.461
Right.

0:49:36.163 --> 0:49:37.664
It's no different than now.

0:49:37.923 --> 0:49:39.304
Like the majority of the

0:49:39.385 --> 0:49:42.847
fans now grew up with John Cena.

0:49:43.688 --> 0:49:44.869
So if they look at some of

0:49:44.889 --> 0:49:46.190
this stuff going on now,

0:49:46.411 --> 0:49:48.373
it's not going to be the same product.

0:49:49.074 --> 0:49:49.733
It's just not.

0:49:50.835 --> 0:49:51.054
Yeah.

0:49:51.215 --> 0:49:53.777
It's just like it's the rock is here now.

0:49:54.498 --> 0:49:54.878
Exactly.

0:49:54.918 --> 0:49:56.380
Rock was from our era.

0:49:56.960 --> 0:49:57.179
Right.

0:49:57.199 --> 0:50:00.322
But the era now is the era of Cody.

0:50:01.244 --> 0:50:04.885
Seth Rollins, so you have this last relic,

0:50:05.405 --> 0:50:05.985
quote unquote,

0:50:06.286 --> 0:50:08.726
from the that just showed

0:50:08.867 --> 0:50:10.547
up because he's on the

0:50:10.586 --> 0:50:11.527
board of directors now.

0:50:11.547 --> 0:50:13.427
He's a big Hollywood actor,

0:50:13.967 --> 0:50:15.509
and he just shows up and he says,

0:50:15.548 --> 0:50:17.289
I'm gonna do whatever hell I want you.

0:50:17.329 --> 0:50:17.909
Jabroni,

0:50:17.989 --> 0:50:19.510
you get your monkey ass out of the

0:50:19.550 --> 0:50:20.590
ring before the Rock lays a

0:50:20.610 --> 0:50:23.170
smack down on you.

0:50:25.192 --> 0:50:27.092
Right, now fans hate it.

0:50:28.273 --> 0:50:28.393
Right.

0:50:29.864 --> 0:50:31.284
But back then, it was like,

0:50:31.806 --> 0:50:33.726
you got to be as piss and vinegar, bro.

0:50:34.507 --> 0:50:36.289
Your spot is never secure.

0:50:36.929 --> 0:50:37.230
Ever.

0:50:38.190 --> 0:50:38.411
Yep.

0:50:41.514 --> 0:50:41.974
Whatever.

0:50:41.994 --> 0:50:43.114
It is what it is.

0:50:43.715 --> 0:50:44.675
Four words, man.

0:50:45.697 --> 0:50:47.217
Card subject to change.

0:50:48.179 --> 0:50:49.219
Yeah.

0:50:49.260 --> 0:50:50.541
I said this in a group the other day.

0:50:51.362 --> 0:50:53.182
The card is subject to change, man.

0:50:53.222 --> 0:50:55.724
You just... Fans nowadays...

0:50:56.085 --> 0:50:58.608
I grew up in a rural area, which means...

0:50:59.672 --> 0:51:00.853
The big stars didn't really

0:51:00.893 --> 0:51:02.014
come out there that much.

0:51:02.574 --> 0:51:04.755
So those four words meant a lot.

0:51:04.775 --> 0:51:06.635
Because if they advertise

0:51:06.675 --> 0:51:07.996
somebody and they don't come,

0:51:08.237 --> 0:51:09.338
they ain't fucking coming.

0:51:09.418 --> 0:51:10.637
You getting whatever they got.

0:51:11.559 --> 0:51:11.778
Right.

0:51:12.219 --> 0:51:13.219
And that's because we had a

0:51:13.280 --> 0:51:13.800
WF with you shit.

0:51:13.820 --> 0:51:15.701
So they would run the A-Town, the B-Town,

0:51:16.141 --> 0:51:18.981
and your C-Town would be, you know.

0:51:19.061 --> 0:51:20.322
You getting scraps, my guy.

0:51:20.722 --> 0:51:21.103
Exactly.

0:51:23.724 --> 0:51:24.985
You want a filet mignon,

0:51:25.005 --> 0:51:25.985
we're giving you fish.

0:51:26.905 --> 0:51:27.126
Yeah.

0:51:27.146 --> 0:51:28.286
Take this and be happy.

0:51:29.096 --> 0:51:30.376
Yeah, it's not even good fish either.

0:51:30.876 --> 0:51:31.137
Right.

0:51:32.719 --> 0:51:32.998
Right.

0:51:33.878 --> 0:51:36.521
So, but yeah, it's like that, man.

0:51:36.581 --> 0:51:39.322
All right, man.

0:51:40.023 --> 0:51:41.465
Final shots and thoughts.

0:51:42.284 --> 0:51:43.405
What do you got?

0:51:44.570 --> 0:51:45.570
Well, basically,

0:51:46.072 --> 0:51:47.431
I mentioned a couple weeks

0:51:47.452 --> 0:51:49.672
ago on the show, been mentioning here,

0:51:50.173 --> 0:51:50.554
plugging it,

0:51:51.054 --> 0:51:52.454
but we are going to be

0:51:52.494 --> 0:51:54.074
presenting another podcast here,

0:51:54.135 --> 0:51:54.996
the one that's going to be

0:51:55.275 --> 0:51:56.956
about Star Wars and all that.

0:51:57.197 --> 0:51:57.836
And originally,

0:51:57.856 --> 0:51:59.257
we were going to go Rogue Empire.

0:52:00.697 --> 0:52:01.739
We're not calling it that anymore.

0:52:02.099 --> 0:52:03.159
We are going to be

0:52:03.219 --> 0:52:04.820
officially the Rogue

0:52:05.000 --> 0:52:06.280
Scoundrels is what the show

0:52:06.320 --> 0:52:06.981
is going to be called.

0:52:07.661 --> 0:52:10.242
And we'll be debuting that in a few weeks.

0:52:10.402 --> 0:52:11.623
We're just going to be fine

0:52:11.663 --> 0:52:13.264
tuning some stuff and we're going to

0:52:13.938 --> 0:52:16.001
Basically, we're talking about Star Wars,

0:52:16.460 --> 0:52:18.463
Marvel, Disney, DC,

0:52:18.983 --> 0:52:20.445
all the controversies going on.

0:52:21.304 --> 0:52:23.047
So look forward to that

0:52:23.567 --> 0:52:25.108
because the Rogue Scouts rolls.

0:52:25.708 --> 0:52:26.329
It's on its way.

0:52:27.811 --> 0:52:29.231
Correctamundo.

0:52:29.452 --> 0:52:30.612
Correctamundo.

0:52:31.673 --> 0:52:32.795
Very excited for that, too.

0:52:33.376 --> 0:52:33.835
Very excited.

0:52:33.856 --> 0:52:34.516
Yeah, so it'll be fun.

0:52:34.717 --> 0:52:35.317
It's going to be fun.

0:52:35.356 --> 0:52:36.659
It's going to be a good time.

0:52:37.318 --> 0:52:38.960
So I do want to shout out.

0:52:39.240 --> 0:52:40.501
I put this announcement out.

0:52:41.817 --> 0:52:43.137
uh earlier today but I do

0:52:43.157 --> 0:52:44.139
want to shout it out on the

0:52:44.179 --> 0:52:46.260
show we do have an

0:52:46.460 --> 0:52:47.820
interview series coming up

0:52:48.481 --> 0:52:49.342
I do want to shout out

0:52:49.382 --> 0:52:53.284
metroplex wrestling and uh

0:52:53.744 --> 0:52:54.764
they do have an event

0:52:55.485 --> 0:52:58.246
destiny march 16th here in

0:52:58.306 --> 0:53:00.307
grand prairie texas they

0:53:00.327 --> 0:53:02.690
will be uh they they were

0:53:02.710 --> 0:53:03.590
going to be moving to a

0:53:03.650 --> 0:53:04.951
bigger venue for this show

0:53:05.010 --> 0:53:05.510
it's going to be the

0:53:05.550 --> 0:53:06.472
biggest show they've done

0:53:07.092 --> 0:53:08.853
They always do great shows

0:53:09.313 --> 0:53:11.753
when Wrestling Revolver comes around.

0:53:11.833 --> 0:53:12.974
Wrestling Revolver does

0:53:13.054 --> 0:53:15.556
their they pick some of their talent,

0:53:15.996 --> 0:53:17.016
put them in the shows,

0:53:17.436 --> 0:53:19.958
give them a great experience.

0:53:20.137 --> 0:53:21.199
They're in there with bigger

0:53:21.239 --> 0:53:22.639
stars on another level.

0:53:22.719 --> 0:53:24.039
It gives them great experience.

0:53:24.099 --> 0:53:25.480
But we're a class

0:53:25.559 --> 0:53:27.420
organization that they have over there.

0:53:27.820 --> 0:53:29.862
Shout out to Matthew Palmer.

0:53:30.842 --> 0:53:32.344
He's heading that whole thing up.

0:53:32.384 --> 0:53:33.284
So shout out to him.

0:53:34.326 --> 0:53:36.548
But he offered No Gimmicks a

0:53:36.588 --> 0:53:38.431
chance to interview some talent.

0:53:39.231 --> 0:53:40.755
And we took that opportunity.

0:53:40.815 --> 0:53:41.815
We're going to be bringing

0:53:41.916 --> 0:53:45.201
the series Path to Destiny.

0:53:45.842 --> 0:53:47.003
So we'll be interviewing

0:53:47.043 --> 0:53:49.126
guys here on the No Gimmicks podcast.

0:53:49.766 --> 0:53:50.847
promoting this event.

0:53:51.307 --> 0:53:52.769
Starting next Wednesday,

0:53:53.070 --> 0:53:55.172
we have the former MPX champion,

0:53:55.552 --> 0:53:56.273
Tatum Manning.

0:53:56.672 --> 0:53:58.114
He's going to be stopping by.

0:53:58.195 --> 0:54:00.536
We'll talk to him, promote the event.

0:54:00.617 --> 0:54:01.757
He's just coming back to

0:54:01.797 --> 0:54:02.858
Metroplex Wrestling,

0:54:02.918 --> 0:54:04.400
so we'll catch up with him,

0:54:04.460 --> 0:54:05.460
see what he's been doing,

0:54:05.541 --> 0:54:06.722
and promote this event.

0:54:06.762 --> 0:54:06.902
But

0:54:07.903 --> 0:54:10.186
Um, shout out to everybody over at MPX,

0:54:10.246 --> 0:54:10.507
man.

0:54:10.567 --> 0:54:11.288
They're, they're just,

0:54:11.889 --> 0:54:13.391
their fan base is awesome.

0:54:14.172 --> 0:54:14.291
Uh,

0:54:14.351 --> 0:54:16.894
they're really loyal to their fan base.

0:54:17.596 --> 0:54:19.679
Uh, when those guys go out, uh,

0:54:19.818 --> 0:54:21.942
AW came and, uh,

0:54:21.961 --> 0:54:23.344
a bunch of those guys were on

0:54:23.784 --> 0:54:25.764
ring of honor and uh

0:54:25.864 --> 0:54:27.945
collision and the mpx

0:54:27.985 --> 0:54:29.365
faithful came out supported

0:54:29.465 --> 0:54:31.186
heavy so it's one of the

0:54:31.246 --> 0:54:32.445
best fan bases here in

0:54:32.505 --> 0:54:35.487
north texas um so show

0:54:35.507 --> 0:54:36.588
those guys some love when

0:54:36.628 --> 0:54:38.148
they come through get to

0:54:38.168 --> 0:54:39.387
know some of these guys

0:54:39.407 --> 0:54:41.228
because they've already

0:54:41.268 --> 0:54:42.889
been doing big things on on

0:54:42.949 --> 0:54:44.949
another level I expect a

0:54:45.010 --> 0:54:46.210
lot of these guys to be

0:54:46.289 --> 0:54:47.351
seen on another level

0:54:47.391 --> 0:54:48.210
because they are just

0:54:49.076 --> 0:54:50.277
They are awesome, man.

0:54:50.396 --> 0:54:51.619
They really are.

0:54:51.778 --> 0:54:53.820
They are the superstars of tomorrow.

0:54:54.001 --> 0:54:57.304
And No Gimmicks Podcast, DFPN, we are very,

0:54:57.583 --> 0:55:00.427
very friendly to the indie.

0:55:00.467 --> 0:55:00.547
So,

0:55:00.567 --> 0:55:02.469
if there's any independent organization

0:55:02.528 --> 0:55:03.909
out there that wants to do

0:55:03.990 --> 0:55:05.172
business with No Gimmicks,

0:55:05.211 --> 0:55:06.313
we are always open.

0:55:06.552 --> 0:55:07.074
Always.

0:55:07.414 --> 0:55:07.813
Always.

0:55:08.394 --> 0:55:12.137
Also, this Saturday, February 10th,

0:55:13.518 --> 0:55:14.659
Mission Pro Wrestling.

0:55:15.240 --> 0:55:16.302
They're gonna be doing their

0:55:16.342 --> 0:55:18.083
Sleepless in San Antonio event.

0:55:19.505 --> 0:55:21.126
I was gonna try to go down

0:55:21.166 --> 0:55:22.768
there and check that show out.

0:55:23.228 --> 0:55:24.250
Won't be able to.

0:55:25.570 --> 0:55:28.894
I will be here for the MPX event.

0:55:29.014 --> 0:55:30.675
MPX is doing an event here, so...

0:55:31.657 --> 0:55:33.079
uh I'll be supporting that

0:55:33.539 --> 0:55:35.179
but we are sponsoring that

0:55:35.219 --> 0:55:36.460
mission pro wrestling show

0:55:36.722 --> 0:55:39.344
so make sure you guys uh

0:55:39.463 --> 0:55:40.264
catch that on

0:55:40.324 --> 0:55:41.726
titlematch.com if you're

0:55:41.846 --> 0:55:43.367
unable to go there's still

0:55:43.427 --> 0:55:45.188
tickets remaining so go to

0:55:45.228 --> 0:55:47.690
missionprowrestling.com and

0:55:47.911 --> 0:55:48.952
get your tickets for that

0:55:49.112 --> 0:55:49.893
if you're in the san

0:55:49.932 --> 0:55:51.373
antonio area it's right by

0:55:51.434 --> 0:55:53.434
lackland air force base so

0:55:54.536 --> 0:55:57.277
Go check those girls out, the ladies.

0:55:57.338 --> 0:55:58.659
They always have a great

0:55:58.719 --> 0:56:01.820
show with a lot of those guys.

0:56:01.880 --> 0:56:02.780
Wren Sinclair,

0:56:03.300 --> 0:56:05.342
who was a former tag

0:56:05.382 --> 0:56:06.802
champion over at Mission Pro.

0:56:06.862 --> 0:56:08.403
She's in WWE now.

0:56:08.764 --> 0:56:10.905
And she also did work with

0:56:10.925 --> 0:56:11.744
Doll Pound Championship

0:56:11.764 --> 0:56:13.585
Wrestling in San Antonio as well.

0:56:14.067 --> 0:56:15.226
And that's headed up by

0:56:15.266 --> 0:56:16.547
Rodney Mack and Jazz.

0:56:16.688 --> 0:56:18.128
They are the trainers for Doll Pound.

0:56:18.469 --> 0:56:20.108
So just, you know,

0:56:20.210 --> 0:56:21.230
it's just basically what I'm saying.

0:56:21.250 --> 0:56:23.170
Just go out there and support Doll Pound.

0:56:23.947 --> 0:56:24.748
He says, once again,

0:56:24.788 --> 0:56:26.547
these are the superstars of tomorrow.

0:56:26.568 --> 0:56:27.489
These are the superstars

0:56:27.548 --> 0:56:29.570
you're going to see in WWE

0:56:29.610 --> 0:56:31.130
that you're going to see in TNA.

0:56:31.150 --> 0:56:33.510
You're going to see AEW and

0:56:33.590 --> 0:56:34.452
so forth and so on.

0:56:34.492 --> 0:56:36.152
But, yeah, man, I mean,

0:56:36.172 --> 0:56:37.092
it's popular right now,

0:56:37.193 --> 0:56:38.293
and we are definitely on

0:56:38.313 --> 0:56:39.893
the road to WrestleMania.

0:56:39.934 --> 0:56:40.793
We're going to be checking

0:56:40.873 --> 0:56:42.135
out the Elimination Chamber

0:56:42.175 --> 0:56:42.775
that's coming up.

0:56:42.795 --> 0:56:45.576
We got Singh's last match at Revolution.

0:56:46.137 --> 0:56:46.597
So much.

0:56:46.617 --> 0:56:48.998
There's so much stuff going on.

0:56:49.952 --> 0:56:52.157
Then we have, once again,

0:56:52.599 --> 0:56:53.722
we got our stuff going on here.

0:56:53.742 --> 0:56:54.362
No gimmicks.

0:56:54.382 --> 0:56:55.706
We got the Rogue Scoundrels

0:56:55.746 --> 0:56:57.791
podcast coming up, like I said before.

0:56:58.356 --> 0:57:00.137
We're going to do a deep dive here, people,

0:57:00.336 --> 0:57:01.858
into Star Wars lore.

0:57:02.099 --> 0:57:02.998
That's what we're doing here.

0:57:03.018 --> 0:57:05.661
It's going to be off the chain.

0:57:05.681 --> 0:57:06.061
Trust me.

0:57:06.101 --> 0:57:06.762
You're going to want to

0:57:06.802 --> 0:57:08.643
listen to the Rogue Scoundrels.

0:57:08.782 --> 0:57:10.384
We pop it here on the DFPN.

0:57:10.423 --> 0:57:11.184
And once again,

0:57:11.704 --> 0:57:14.487
if you'd like to join us on Patreon,

0:57:14.586 --> 0:57:16.367
he mentioned earlier we have a free tier.

0:57:16.407 --> 0:57:18.528
But if you want to be down with the boys,

0:57:18.528 --> 0:57:21.251
$3 will get you everything

0:57:21.311 --> 0:57:23.952
from the Dad Filming Podcast catalog.

0:57:23.992 --> 0:57:25.614
You've got the No Gimmicks Podcast.

0:57:25.634 --> 0:57:27.394
You're going to have Make It Make Sense,

0:57:27.434 --> 0:57:28.235
the Smoke Pit.

0:57:28.576 --> 0:57:30.195
the Queen is a third of the USC.

0:57:30.376 --> 0:57:32.036
And you're going to have the

0:57:32.097 --> 0:57:34.197
rogue scoundrels podcast shortly.

0:57:34.996 --> 0:57:38.117
All basically before anybody else.

0:57:38.378 --> 0:57:39.117
So check us out.

0:57:39.518 --> 0:57:40.619
Come check us out.

0:57:40.838 --> 0:57:41.639
Support your boys.

0:57:41.659 --> 0:57:42.458
Other than that.

0:57:43.418 --> 0:57:46.500
Oh, put up that message there.

0:57:47.840 --> 0:57:48.260
What's that?

0:57:50.061 --> 0:57:50.101
Oh.

0:57:53.483 --> 0:57:54.644
Shout out to Total Atom.

0:57:55.065 --> 0:57:58.949
Total Atom, he's up on the East Coast.

0:58:00.650 --> 0:58:02.110
I am going to be going there.

0:58:03.092 --> 0:58:04.432
I'll be there for WrestleMania.

0:58:04.492 --> 0:58:06.355
Total Atom, we got to meet up, man.

0:58:06.375 --> 0:58:08.396
We definitely got to meet up.

0:58:10.378 --> 0:58:11.099
But shout out to him.

0:58:12.000 --> 0:58:12.159
Cool.

0:58:13.114 --> 0:58:14.034
Appreciate the support.

0:58:14.693 --> 0:58:15.554
Everybody that's joined us

0:58:15.574 --> 0:58:17.434
tonight listening to No Gimmicks,

0:58:17.675 --> 0:58:20.135
you know, outside of Patreon,

0:58:20.175 --> 0:58:21.155
so I think we're going to

0:58:21.835 --> 0:58:23.876
wrap it up and say, basically,

0:58:25.655 --> 0:58:27.496
in order to help control

0:58:28.016 --> 0:58:30.336
the pet population here, don't forget,

0:58:30.376 --> 0:58:30.677
people,

0:58:30.757 --> 0:58:32.836
have your pet spayed or neutered

0:58:32.856 --> 0:58:34.157
because if you don't,

0:58:34.197 --> 0:58:34.958
I'll force choke you.

0:58:38.438 --> 0:58:38.818
Oh, yeah.

0:58:38.838 --> 0:58:42.059
And also, remember, always remember

0:58:42.762 --> 0:58:44.501
The dark side will be with you always.

0:58:46.922 --> 0:58:48.483
May the force be with you, people.

0:58:48.822 --> 0:58:51.523
Oh, fuck you.

0:58:51.764 --> 0:58:52.923
Don't listen to this guy.

0:58:53.864 --> 0:58:55.143
There is no dark side.

0:58:55.204 --> 0:58:56.324
There's just the force.

0:58:57.063 --> 0:58:57.485
Oh, bullshit.

0:58:57.505 --> 0:58:58.085
You see Yoda behind me.

0:58:58.164 --> 0:58:58.724
You're going to hit me with

0:58:58.744 --> 0:58:59.344
that lightsaber.

0:59:01.244 --> 0:59:02.724
There's only the force.

0:59:02.744 --> 0:59:05.045
But thank you guys for tuning in.

0:59:05.085 --> 0:59:06.706
We'll debate that on Rose Councils.

0:59:07.525 --> 0:59:08.385
Okay, we can.

0:59:08.827 --> 0:59:09.887
I'm going to win this debate.

0:59:10.507 --> 0:59:11.106
Oh, bullshit.

0:59:12.199 --> 0:59:12.619
I will.

0:59:12.639 --> 0:59:15.282
All right, guys.

0:59:15.983 --> 0:59:17.784
For us over on the No

0:59:17.804 --> 0:59:18.806
Gimmicks podcast for

0:59:18.847 --> 0:59:20.708
everybody over at DFPN.

0:59:20.768 --> 0:59:22.271
Thank you guys for tuning in.

0:59:23.152 --> 0:59:25.273
You guys have a wonderful time.

0:59:25.534 --> 0:59:26.494
And until then,

0:59:26.514 --> 0:59:30.159
enjoy what the fuck you want to enjoy.

0:59:30.639 --> 0:59:31.059
Peace.

0:59:32.963 --> 0:59:35.226
And I know it's all business, all business,

0:59:35.306 --> 0:59:35.827
all business.

0:59:36.128 --> 0:59:38.090
We give them no gimmicks.

0:59:38.110 --> 0:59:38.371
Yeah.

0:59:38.952 --> 0:59:41.215
And I know it's all business, all business,

0:59:41.295 --> 0:59:41.835
all business.

0:59:42.096 --> 0:59:43.336
We give them no gimmicks.

0:59:44.117 --> 0:59:44.358
Yeah.

0:59:44.938 --> 0:59:47.181
And I know it's all business, all business,

0:59:47.262 --> 0:59:47.802
all business.

0:59:48.103 --> 0:59:49.726
We give them no gimmicks.

0:59:49.746 --> 0:59:49.985
Gimmicks.