[roscoe]: welcome back it is reversed retro night welcome to leaves late night i'm your host
[roscoe]: rosco joined by dart broder surprised guest here benner and southey well it's never too
[roscoe]: late for the leaves presented by inside the rink and the reason i say surprised
[roscoe]: guests here in dartybrodur we're not on video tonight
[Darty Brodeur]: yeah
[roscoe]: but he's rocking what i can only call la elliot freedman car cast as i'm
[roscoe]: looking at him in a gym right
[Darty Brodeur]: oh
[roscoe]: now and
[Darty Brodeur]: h
[roscoe]: you can hear the
[Darty Brodeur]: h
[roscoe]: music pumping in the background and i see this guy just going on a machine
[roscoe]: you want right
[Darty Brodeur]: this
[roscoe]: now
[Darty Brodeur]: is a sibexelyptical right it was the quietest most modern and i think it's at
[Darty Brodeur]: least a
[roscoe]: yeah
[Darty Brodeur]: fifteen hundred dollar machine all right so i figured
[roscoe]: uh
[Darty Brodeur]: if i was going to do multi task i'd pick
[roscoe]: h
[Darty Brodeur]: something that wouldn't have too much interference on our microphone and still get maximum caloryburnage
[roscoe]: i
[biehner_]: for
[roscoe]: love
[biehner_]: for
[roscoe]: the dedication
[biehner_]: for everyone that
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: can't see it just think of danny hetley or jason speza from like the five
[biehner_]: o six senators post game
[roscoe]: this guy's just like it's headphones in just going to town at i love it
[roscoe]: man i love that i love that you're here from there it's great
[Darty Brodeur]: i've had this t shirt since great eleven all right so
[roscoe]: yes
[Darty Brodeur]: you know it's it's old school it's old school pump tonight
[biehner_]: yeah
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: your nipples are telling us that
[roscoe]: uh uh
[Darty Brodeur]: m
[roscoe]: oh
[Darty Brodeur]: banner
[roscoe]: buddy
[biehner_]: yeah
[roscoe]: okay
[biehner_]: you're a dad now you're not supposed to be working out cut that ship out
[roscoe]: so because it's reverse retro night i want to start with questions sound good we're
[roscoe]: gonna start at the end reverse style so with the very first question here from
[roscoe]: t m l fan and van has going marty or the leaps good southey you
[roscoe]: can start this one how's it going leaves good
[roscoe]: yeah and i mean i know there's a bit of a tongue in cheek to
[roscoe]: the question because there's it's not been the most supported leafs regular season campaign so
[roscoe]: far as far as the the fans and media goes it's been a lot of
[roscoe]: it's been a roller coaster eighteen games so as simple as a four word question
[roscoe]: are the leaves good can be it's there's some depth to it i think he
[roscoe]: knows that next one from aran at aronlea nineteen seventy eight thanks arn this is
[roscoe]: also from vi blue and white um well this is so okay it's two partner
[roscoe]: feel blue and white will curfoot ever score again and aron following up and will
[roscoe]: they realize cur foot is not the player they need in the top six so
[roscoe]: frustrating so i mean okay we saw him make the pass to nowhere land to
[roscoe]: not open j t the other night and now we see him blow his i
[roscoe]: don't know twelfth it feels like break away of this son already it's not that
[roscoe]: many but it feels like it nor
[biehner_]: so he's like mice
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: to point o or like
[roscoe]: h
[biehner_]: michel grabner
[roscoe]: no kidding
[biehner_]: eighty five point o like
[roscoe]: always one of these a
[biehner_]: every single season the leafs ways have this kind of player and i wish i
[biehner_]: would have wrote it down someone on twitter was talking about maybe the
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: leaf's picking up capinit because oh you know you could use his offense in the
[biehner_]: bottom six he did this exact same thing when he was on the leaves he
[biehner_]: had chance
[roscoe]: why are
[biehner_]: after
[roscoe]: leaf
[biehner_]: chance
[roscoe]: fans so
[biehner_]: and he
[roscoe]: obsessed
[biehner_]: could never
[roscoe]: with bringing
[biehner_]: bury
[roscoe]: back guys why why is it always let's bring back luke she let's bring back
[roscoe]: jack campbell let's bring back his barry
[Darty Brodeur]: yeah
[roscoe]: capitan sorry
[Darty Brodeur]: and
[roscoe]: go
[Darty Brodeur]: wasn't
[roscoe]: on people
[Darty Brodeur]: appening
[roscoe]: are just obsessed
[Darty Brodeur]: only good when nelander was gone was that not like the scoop there
[biehner_]: capitan
[roscoe]: there can be
[biehner_]: was
[roscoe]: only one
[biehner_]: right like he
[roscoe]: yah
[biehner_]: never really lived up to his potential
[roscoe]: yah
[biehner_]: and he's still not hence why he's being scratched a whole bunch i don't know
[biehner_]: like like my swiss army knife comment from a couple episodes ago
[roscoe]: it was great
[biehner_]: i don't i'm not too sure if
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: as much as i love the guy and i do see his use i don't
[biehner_]: know do you bentham do you give him a new
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: shooting coach do give a matthew stick for a game like
[roscoe]: yeah that's why i mean like it looks like it always looks like good things
[roscoe]: it's just the finish is never there and i know he's not supposed to be
[roscoe]: a goal score but like i mean he doesn't exactly have the assist either this
[roscoe]: is his longest goal dry it's not a thirteen games or something he hasn't scored
[roscoe]: in or fourteen this is nuts
[roscoe]: yeah in
[Darty Brodeur]: but besides what he's giving
[roscoe]: yeah
[Darty Brodeur]: you guys on the ah who fantasy i know he's probably screwing a bunch f
[Darty Brodeur]: people over if you have carfootbut besides that is he not do you think he's
[Darty Brodeur]: not giving something on the bench like in the locker room like even on i
[Darty Brodeur]: used like i feel like this guy this guy's got to be pretty solid but
[Darty Brodeur]: he doesn't doesn't see if there's too much wrong with him besides the fact he's
[Darty Brodeur]: not putting too many points up
[roscoe]: yeah and i mean it shows by the fact that keith gives him all these
[roscoe]: opportunities whether it's you know power play time on p p two or penalty kill
[roscoe]: or he's now floating between either the first second or third line they at least
[roscoe]: trust him to play everywhere it's just it's back to be interesting you know you
[roscoe]: can be pretty good at a lot of things but is that really what we
[roscoe]: need out of that slope right now or do we need somebody like nick robertson
[roscoe]: to not be in the press box
[roscoe]: next question this is from mike d thanks mike mike d underscore three nine two
[roscoe]: should the leaves make these reverse retros their main jersey are going to let banner
[roscoe]: take this one because he's the jersey guy on no so that you can
[biehner_]: oh
[roscoe]: jump in here too
[biehner_]: so i will i will admit it
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: when they came out i think i was the first
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: one on this plot to say i did not like them they are starting to
[biehner_]: grow on me just a little bit i thought they were i don't know if
[biehner_]: it's the photographer they have because i thought the same thing last reverse retro when
[biehner_]: the photographer when they posted pictures of it i thought man that's a god awful
[biehner_]: jersey and that jersey grew on me too
[roscoe]: ah
[biehner_]: i don't know if it's maybe because this is one of the most complete games
[biehner_]: they've played all year so i just kind of it doesn't hurt
[roscoe]: it's
[biehner_]: or
[roscoe]: easy to associate the jersey with how they play
[biehner_]: or
[roscoe]: my
[biehner_]: or if anybody saw my tweet matt murray given off the grant
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: for early nineties
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: vibes something about the white
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: shoulders just every time he'd go down the butterfly to make i saved like jesus
[biehner_]: christ i'm watching fare here
[roscoe]: yeah i like the crest on it honestly better than
[Darty Brodeur]: oh
[roscoe]: the last reverse retro but so what do you think
[roscoe]: yeah oh
[roscoe]: yeah
[roscoe]: and dirty i'll let you finish this one that i'm gonna throw the next question
[Darty Brodeur]: i
[roscoe]: to you
[Darty Brodeur]: think
[roscoe]: too
[Darty Brodeur]: that is what was missing from
[roscoe]: that a good
[Darty Brodeur]: our takes when that came out because i noticed that i felt like you guys
[Darty Brodeur]: didn't
[roscoe]: oh
[Darty Brodeur]: was it wasn't as prominent in the photography
[roscoe]: ah
[Darty Brodeur]: was that stripe on the top and i love it as soon as i saw
[Darty Brodeur]: it i was like you guys i don't know what you guys are
[roscoe]: oh
[Darty Brodeur]: talking about go back to the episode i'm telling you now i was all
[roscoe]: yes
[Darty Brodeur]: though this jersey
[roscoe]: uh
[Darty Brodeur]: and because of that white stripe in fact i wish it was more shoulder patty
[Darty Brodeur]: like folk i wish they did a little bit
[roscoe]: yeah
[Darty Brodeur]: more with it but still i think it really pops and that was missing from
[Darty Brodeur]: the initial photography and now they set on the ice fucking beauty
[roscoe]: white stripes baby um so i'm going to give this next question back to you
[roscoe]: dirty so before i go to mike's question what do you think is a good
[roscoe]: chant for matt murray
[Darty Brodeur]: that's a tough one because like i was really going for
[roscoe]: oh
[Darty Brodeur]: the know the
[roscoe]: oh
[Darty Brodeur]: like with samsonov i really like
[roscoe]: oh
[Darty Brodeur]: the now classic like ricola like so nvright
[roscoe]: that's a good one
[Darty Brodeur]: but with mary it's like i don't know maybe shouting
[roscoe]: yeah
[Darty Brodeur]: out like like murdog or something like
[roscoe]: yeah
[Darty Brodeur]: murdo
[roscoe]: oh
[Darty Brodeur]: don't know this
[roscoe]: so so mike was here's mike's question how good was matt murray again tonight seriously
[roscoe]: needed fans of scotia bank to cheer me for him every day of the guy
[roscoe]: earned it he has he was positionally sound calm and composed all night long give
[roscoe]: it to this guy mat murray i mean yes buffalo savers aren't a seven game
[roscoe]: losing streak but here's a lot of guys that can score on this team and
[roscoe]: i know i say that a lot but did well the net front challenge is
[roscoe]: dirty
[Darty Brodeur]: like what's his nickname to actually murdogbease honestly i feel like his nickname should be
[Darty Brodeur]: bones because like he's so fucking skinny like
[roscoe]: bones
[Darty Brodeur]: like for for a big tall like tandy not really that big once you get
[Darty Brodeur]: all the equipment off of them i feel like
[roscoe]: yeah
[Darty Brodeur]: a lot of tents are like that too like it's the it's the football pads
[Darty Brodeur]: they're wearing that make them look big but
[roscoe]: yeah
[Darty Brodeur]: yeah murray especially when he was a little under the weather last season that guy's
[Darty Brodeur]: guys skeleton all
[roscoe]: oh
[Darty Brodeur]: right like it's incredible how much area he covers
[roscoe]: oh yeah so southey this question is from scott on discord with murray playing well
[roscoe]: and what we've seen of sammy are you confident enough with the tend situation for
[roscoe]: the rest of the season
[roscoe]: ye
[roscoe]: ah oh man oh
[roscoe]: okay yeah oh yeah yeah i mean it all comes down to injuries right but
[roscoe]: at the same time last year jack cambell and peter marassig were not healthy either
[roscoe]: and i think if you're going a give me two goals that are shaky on
[roscoe]: health i would take murray and samson of over mraszikand campbell any day dar go
[roscoe]: ahead
[Darty Brodeur]: ber
[roscoe]: oh
[Darty Brodeur]: you have something there look you're gonna say something i don't want to jump ahead
[roscoe]: sorry i can't see
[biehner_]: no
[roscoe]: him right now
[biehner_]: you can't see me
[roscoe]: no i can't oh sorry i can't see satybener if you want to jump in
[biehner_]: yeah sorry i was just going to say like marty and i talked about it
[biehner_]: before the season we had a an episode of his podcast there that we broke
[biehner_]: down the leif's goal tender depth in the system and we we both felt you
[biehner_]: know cautiously optimistic and fairly confident
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: that this was going to be a pretty good pretty good tan coming into the
[biehner_]: season
[Darty Brodeur]: and do you guys think do you gys think that
[roscoe]: darton
[Darty Brodeur]: the positivity that we're seeing when we look at this tantum as opposed to the
[Darty Brodeur]: previous tantum i would like to believe that because there's less of a dark cloud
[Darty Brodeur]: over these guys like murray and sam son of were not hearing much about you
[Darty Brodeur]: know the mental health the outside world
[roscoe]: oh
[Darty Brodeur]: getting to the inside world of them right i feel like with these guys yeah
[Darty Brodeur]: they got their injury problems but it's not like they're
[roscoe]: m
[Darty Brodeur]: like morai who literally his
[roscoe]: yes
[Darty Brodeur]: groin is made of glass you know like i feel like with these guys gordstelick
[Darty Brodeur]: said it best last night just fucking run him all right with matt murray like
[Darty Brodeur]: let's
[roscoe]: my
[Darty Brodeur]: see let's let's see what he got and if he breaks then fuck
[roscoe]: my
[Darty Brodeur]: we got to get new tend but we
[roscoe]: yes
[Darty Brodeur]: got to see see it now before later
[roscoe]: yeah i think the difference last year was the leaves were scoring a ton everybody
[roscoe]: was on the ball this year we're seeing a bit of you know some people
[roscoe]: are off to slow start some people are on some nights and we'll get to
[roscoe]: that with another question here also shout out to lucas who basically asked the same
[roscoe]: question i'm gonna lump it in but the difference last year was they were scoring
[roscoe]: a ton and also letting in a ton of goals but still managing to win
[roscoe]: which sounds like the edmonton oilers this year surprise surprise weird coincidence there i don't
[roscoe]: know but now you're seeing that gold tending hasn't really and why they're losing it's
[roscoe]: been other problems so i think that's distracted the story line away from you know
[roscoe]: what's wrong with with matt murray like way it was last year with jack campbell
[roscoe]: where it was always a question of his emotion s in the locker room and
[roscoe]: you know because he was the one that wasn't on when everybody else was so
[roscoe]: uh next one kally cartel this will go to you beiner are we okay with
[roscoe]: matthew's lack of scoring because we're winning and still getting points
[biehner_]: absolutely it's as much as he's our our goal score and we've been you know
[biehner_]: all leaf fans have been pimping his tires all summer saying he's the best goal
[biehner_]: score in the league not only is he still
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: getting chances he's setting up his teammates for chances and his defensive game is still
[biehner_]: there if he was just kind of coasting you know going through emotions shift after
[biehner_]: shift i'd be worried like is there a lingering injury is he
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: is something going on behind the scenes that's making him not happy there um but
[biehner_]: i don't see any of that like he's going he's battling
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: in every shift he's out there he's laying a hit or he's digging a puck
[biehner_]: out and stealing it from someone to go ther way for a chance is just
[biehner_]: you score sixty and you're going to be covered how many times has someone scored
[biehner_]: sixty goals in the past ten years
[roscoe]: m
[biehner_]: twice if i remember correctly i've taught my head him and stammer
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: like
[roscoe]: and
[biehner_]: it you're going
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: to be covered
[roscoe]: yeah and honestly if the only problem is shooting percentage then he's fine
[biehner_]: yep
[roscoe]: to kind of sum that up it's like if the only problem is he's just
[roscoe]: not getting them in the back of the net yet that will correct itself like
[roscoe]: it's obviously below what it should be that will average out so did you at
[roscoe]: a jump in there
[roscoe]: no and i mean he's still finding his way under the score sheet he's been
[roscoe]: getting assist almost every night that he's not scoring so it's not like he's not
[roscoe]: getting the points right that wraps up our questions thanks everybody for sending those in
[roscoe]: on discord and twitter if you're not already on our discord is just shy of
[roscoe]: a hundred people were at ninety one we just passed ninety today that's so fun
[roscoe]: thanks everyone for joining uh okay onto the game first period this was probably the
[roscoe]: leaf's best first period of the season so far would anyone want to argue me
[roscoe]: on that i don't think it necessarily started like it's not like they were playing
[roscoe]: hot at the gate but as far as yeah oh cool um we had a
[roscoe]: couple interesting goals i mean we'll talk about the first one jontveras ben you want
[roscoe]: to take this i'm just pulling something else up here
[biehner_]: we're talking about the tip
[roscoe]: yeah from marner oh yeah it was the power play goal sorry i'm just pulling
[roscoe]: up a couple of things here from the game let's be shift
[biehner_]: no no
[roscoe]: over if it sounds like i'm off i was cleaning this room today and i
[roscoe]: left the window open and i forgot to close it and it is freezing cold
[biehner_]: right
[roscoe]: in here so i'm like
[biehner_]: oh
[roscoe]: shaking as i'm talking
[biehner_]: it's just
[roscoe]: ah
[biehner_]: like you're at the rank come on man you should be in prime form
[roscoe]: oh i know fact i didn't dress for this
[Darty Brodeur]: may we did do a music music break at
[roscoe]: yeah
[Darty Brodeur]: some
[biehner_]: yeah
[Darty Brodeur]: point just
[biehner_]: so
[Darty Brodeur]: to let this guy have a not freeze you know turn to ice cole mill
[Darty Brodeur]: pod
[biehner_]: yeah
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: i think
[roscoe]: i know
[biehner_]: i think the wrong persons on the work out machine right there
[roscoe]: uh uh
[biehner_]: yeah
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: so basically just like
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: what was it ten twelve seconds
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: into the power play um mole gets the puck at the point slides it over
[biehner_]: to marner who's up on the half wall who just released howitzer and j t
[biehner_]: just gets a tip of it out front to beat up l best name in
[biehner_]: hockey ukapekalukann
[roscoe]: i don't even
[biehner_]: the leaf
[roscoe]: try to tweet spell it i just said p
[biehner_]: oh yeah the leaves go up one now
[roscoe]: yeah i can never remember how many keys are in uco and pea is it
[roscoe]: two in both
[biehner_]: i believe so
[roscoe]: yeah well save me a bit
[biehner_]: yep
[roscoe]: yeah he's been getting the looks like we said he's just like you know to
[roscoe]: ben's point everybody's expecting that shot so they got to find more creative voices scoring
[roscoe]: the power play and that was the problem though the first like twelve games was
[roscoe]: you know let's get it to matthews oh there's three guys watching him now what
[roscoe]: now they have a now what what's it
[biehner_]: ah
[roscoe]: exactly i
[biehner_]: yeah
[roscoe]: think they all just want to see him get to sixty again
[biehner_]: oh yeah who doesn't he's he's shooting his lowest shooting percentage of his career he's
[biehner_]: at ten percent right now and this previous lows was in his rookie season at
[biehner_]: fourteen point three
[roscoe]: m
[biehner_]: so it's
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: it's going to come back around he normally hovers around the fifteen even up to
[biehner_]: he said a couple of seasons above eighteen per cent
[roscoe]: oh and the other the other good pass he had was where he fed bunting
[roscoe]: for that break away that he almost scored on so i mean
[biehner_]: yep
[roscoe]: like he's he's really just finding new ways to be effective on the ice and
[roscoe]: i mean using the body which will get to when he took that penalty that
[roscoe]: was absolutely bullshit
[Darty Brodeur]: and look if he saves some of it for the first round we finally get
[Darty Brodeur]: past her yo're gonna complain if he's only got forty goals like come on
[roscoe]: no not at all um so second one kelly yarn croke with what i could
[roscoe]: only call i forget who on twitter said this was basically a jason's betsogoal just
[roscoe]: right in front bullet to the open side of the net there finally kalyoncrok with
[roscoe]: his fourth of the season i'm glad this guy this was less than five minutes
[roscoe]: after the power play goal so leaves
[Darty Brodeur]: that
[roscoe]: were sti
[Darty Brodeur]: goal
[roscoe]: buzzing
[Darty Brodeur]: legal or
[roscoe]: there
[biehner_]: m
[Darty Brodeur]: something that
[roscoe]: i'm
[Darty Brodeur]: you put
[roscoe]: just
[Darty Brodeur]: the sirens on there johnny
[biehner_]: yeah
[roscoe]: uh h was that that wasn't me whose was that that's you it's gonna say
[roscoe]: you're i'm not the one downtown yeah so not much to say on the one
[roscoe]: other than san dene finally showing his offensive side of his game and why you
[roscoe]: know there is a
[biehner_]: yah
[roscoe]: ceiling that people are talking about there that he's yet to reach i mean i
[roscoe]: think he was good on this one feeding it over to eval and then angvall
[roscoe]: was the best play of this but the swedish line man
[biehner_]: the best play of this being the not getting called for too many men
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: oh
[Darty Brodeur]: ah
[roscoe]: i mean like look was it really
[biehner_]: oh oh
[roscoe]: or was it one that they just should have called by the book like did
[roscoe]: it really
[biehner_]: so
[roscoe]: affect the play
[biehner_]: it didn't affect the play but with the
[roscoe]: ye
[biehner_]: way that this penalty specifically gets
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: called against the leaves you would think it was just an automatic whistle blown like
[biehner_]: i'm surprised the guys didn't just stop
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: skating and one of them go to the box like
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: if the puck wasn't there then yeah okay it's not a penalty if angvallis coming
[biehner_]: out and trying to get into the play even though zare
[roscoe]: eh
[biehner_]: isn't off the ice because he's not in the play but the fact that he
[biehner_]: gets the pluck right away even though
[roscoe]: it's
[biehner_]: he's
[roscoe]: questionable
[biehner_]: even those are at the bench he within that zone you know rats normally gave
[biehner_]: a little bit of his own right right at the bench there the fact that
[biehner_]: he touched the puck technically by the book that should have been a call against
[biehner_]: the leaves
[Darty Brodeur]: and was
[roscoe]: especially
[Darty Brodeur]: that not the
[roscoe]: against
[Darty Brodeur]: bane of
[roscoe]: the
[Darty Brodeur]: our
[roscoe]: leaves
[biehner_]: yeah
[Darty Brodeur]: existence last year it seemed like
[biehner_]: ah
[Darty Brodeur]: every game it was too much man right like what's our counter at this year
[Darty Brodeur]: is that our first one of the year
[roscoe]: a ah
[biehner_]: it's basically been since babcock was fired i don't know if babcock had some some
[biehner_]: you know interesting photos of some of the rafts and his black was black mailing
[biehner_]: limit not sharing it
[roscoe]: ah
[biehner_]: something
[roscoe]: little
[biehner_]: like
[roscoe]: handshake deal going on
[biehner_]: right yeah
[roscoe]: yeah yet i think i've only seen one maybe two called this year and at
[roscoe]: this point it seems like they were at four or five so it was like
[roscoe]: thirteen in a span of two months they had last year but the reason kind
[roscoe]: of rushing through these is because i really want to talk about the mark dane
[roscoe]: goal here for
[biehner_]: yeah
[roscoe]: more than a few reasons right some people have never seen a goal scored this
[roscoe]: way we actually got to talk about one last year if i'm not mistaken where
[roscoe]: this happened didn't
[biehner_]: fun fact
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: the one we talked about last year when this happened i have that goal puck
[biehner_]: in my display cabinet in my basement
[roscoe]: wait what
[biehner_]: i ended up getting that puck
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: the tovaro's goal
[roscoe]: okay so
[biehner_]: if it's the one i'm thinking
[roscoe]: right
[biehner_]: of
[roscoe]: was to varas yeah
[biehner_]: oh
[roscoe]: yeah it's coming back to me i was like i've definitely seen this before and
[roscoe]: i felt like it was the first time i'd seen it and now it's twice
[roscoe]: so if you knock your own net off well the play is still going and
[roscoe]: there's an imminent scoring through spot crosses the line it's a goal and they knew
[roscoe]: that everyone pointed to it on the ice said that's a goal so mitch marner
[roscoe]: comes in and does what some people have called questionable but trying to make believes
[roscoe]: twitter proceeded to pull up two old clips of marner doing this exact same thing
[roscoe]: before where he comes out of the breakaway pulls somebody to the side who's behind
[roscoe]: him and then gives it back to the person following him who then has a
[roscoe]: wide open net so kind of tricking the defender and the goal
[biehner_]: it
[roscoe]: you
[biehner_]: was
[roscoe]: did
[biehner_]: actually
[roscoe]: it in junior
[biehner_]: a really
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: sorry it was actually a really clever play to do at that point because especially
[biehner_]: shorthanded you know the sabers players aren't going to be expecting that there's going to
[biehner_]: be a second player coming in behind
[roscoe]: of course
[biehner_]: so they're just they're just going to stop it and if i remember correctly i
[biehner_]: think there was the wasn't the curve foot break away just before that
[roscoe]: i think so
[biehner_]: was
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: it
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: and
[roscoe]: it was
[biehner_]: like
[roscoe]: the bunting one
[biehner_]: bunting okay so up l is really good down low so
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: once marner had realized ship i'm in that low why not drop it back because
[biehner_]: he knows someone like go is going to be there whether or not go was
[biehner_]: yelling for it or not who knows but and then
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: it's a very very rare rule you almost never see it
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: but we have seen it a
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: handful of times over the past couple of years the leafs themselves i think this
[biehner_]: is only the second or
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: third time and only the second time it's gone for us that i can remember
[biehner_]: ever um but yeah as long as it still crosses the plane that would have
[biehner_]: technically been a goal so in vision virtual
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: goal post as long as it crosses there within basically
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: all within same play is how they normally try to word it so imminent score
[biehner_]: and chance same play however you want to say it even if the nets off
[roscoe]: m
[biehner_]: in the corner it's a goal
[roscoe]: oh but you can't put your foot up against an imaginary goal post says kevin
[roscoe]: b x which
[biehner_]: oh
[roscoe]: i say don't knock your own net off then
[biehner_]: x also said that it was six minutes later so i don't know if i
[biehner_]: don't know if he's taken too many
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: pucks to the head or
[roscoe]: oh
[roscoe]: i don't
[biehner_]: no
[roscoe]: even think
[biehner_]: one
[roscoe]: you need
[biehner_]: did
[roscoe]: to have the pack off now
[biehner_]: no you don't as long as long as ye as long as it was the
[biehner_]: pot like the defending
[roscoe]: ah
[biehner_]: team that knocked it off clearly without any any input from the attacking team
[roscoe]: a
[biehner_]: and as long as it's within the same course of play like you couldn't pass
[biehner_]: it back to the blue line or anything like that right um and then furthermore
[biehner_]: to be a if you slow the video down and you watch it
[roscoe]: uh
[biehner_]: up l's pad comes from inside the crease out if the post was there it
[biehner_]: would have prevented him from making this ape
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: it literally
[roscoe]: that's
[biehner_]: would
[roscoe]: hilarious
[Darty Brodeur]: and be is such a neck homer
[biehner_]: oh
[Darty Brodeur]: like that guy like sometimes he said breath of fresh air
[roscoe]: oh
[Darty Brodeur]: but most times he's sour milk man like i can't like him sometimes what is
[Darty Brodeur]: it
[roscoe]: okay
[Darty Brodeur]: a lot of a lot of these guys like like like bucking crag simpson too
[Darty Brodeur]: and i
[biehner_]: yeah
[Darty Brodeur]: can't remember the other guy's name but i'm i'm losing
[roscoe]: oh
[Darty Brodeur]: it right now probably o no xperosbut some of these guys these former players like
[Darty Brodeur]: it's just they really start to get on my nerves
[biehner_]: yah
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: ah
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: rudy
[roscoe]: kelly
[biehner_]: glen healey kiprios
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: there's two
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: former
[roscoe]: kipper
[biehner_]: there's two former players that i
[roscoe]: ah
[biehner_]: have any respect for that do this and i sound like an asshole when i
[biehner_]: say that it's ray ferraro and is mike johnson those guys are absolutely incredible
[roscoe]: yep
[biehner_]: and they'll
[roscoe]: they
[biehner_]: come right
[roscoe]: are
[biehner_]: out and say it if they
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: have a home or take or something like that just b x has been so
[biehner_]: hitting miss lately i think he's trying too hard to be the new grapes
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: um m i really loved hearing butter hill kind of put her foot down and
[biehner_]: kind of give it to him like no this is the right call like this
[biehner_]: is the way
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: it should be it was it
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: was really nice
[roscoe]: i was not a i was not a fan of her take on edler not
[roscoe]: being what was it she basically said that like the one on high man was
[roscoe]: on purpose but this one like could have been by accident so he shouldn't be
[roscoe]: suspended and that's why i'm like no no no no he stood up he knew
[roscoe]: exactly what i was doing and it's on connor mc david like i said the
[roscoe]: last episode the person who brings the majority of the income to this game you
[roscoe]: don't let this happen to him and go unchecked come on
[roscoe]: may
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: this is legitimately the third time he's done this like it's it's a history it's
[biehner_]: a pattern
[roscoe]: history needing that's it
[Darty Brodeur]: and riddle me this fella
[roscoe]: already go
[Darty Brodeur]: is
[roscoe]: ahead
[biehner_]: oh
[Darty Brodeur]: crag anderson still attending for the sabers
[roscoe]: he was on the bench
[Darty Brodeur]: was
[roscoe]: and
[Darty Brodeur]: that
[roscoe]: a
[Darty Brodeur]: not the
[roscoe]: nice
[Darty Brodeur]: stupidest
[roscoe]: sabers baseball
[Darty Brodeur]: freaking
[roscoe]: cap
[Darty Brodeur]: decision for that team like do they not under and how to beat the leafs
[Darty Brodeur]: these fucking gomes like put that guy has had the least number like almost every
[biehner_]: yeah
[Darty Brodeur]: single game like they just wanted
[biehner_]: oh
[Darty Brodeur]: to give us the game or something
[roscoe]: well it's fifty fifty do you put crag anderson in or do you put the
[roscoe]: guy in firs first game of the season either way if you're playing leaves jug
[roscoe]: those could both go in your favor
[biehner_]: interestingly enough crag anderson single handedly
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: makes the sabers not the youngest team in the league
[roscoe]: yeah only behind new jersey
[biehner_]: yep
[roscoe]: he must pull their average age up by like a solid few years
[biehner_]: oh he's got because he's like forty two
[roscoe]: that's insane oh but honestly back to the goal i can't believe go was able
[roscoe]: to put this one in because like somebody said first star goes to the overhead
[roscoe]: cam like it was
[biehner_]: the
[roscoe]: actually
[biehner_]: funnier
[roscoe]: one
[biehner_]: part
[roscoe]: a twitter
[biehner_]: was he didn't even really shoot it he just kind of hit it as he
[biehner_]: tried with swinging to wak at it
[roscoe]: yep
[biehner_]: if you re watch it it's not really a shot
[roscoe]: but honestly it found its way in and crossed the line and they knew it
[roscoe]: immediately they all sort of point to it they're like that's in that's a goal
[roscoe]: and i'm glad they challenged this and got it like you said doesn't usually go
[roscoe]: in favor and to come out of the first period
[biehner_]: okay
[roscoe]: yeah and to come
[biehner_]: m
[roscoe]: out of the first three nothing like that's like i said the best performance on
[roscoe]: the score sheet the leaves have
[biehner_]: oh
[roscoe]: had in the first period so far so that's
[biehner_]: yeah
[roscoe]: got to feel good especially
[biehner_]: not
[roscoe]: you know they're on a bit of a streak right now at least of getting
[roscoe]: points i know they lost an overtime but yeah
[biehner_]: not to mention i don't know if anybody's ever if anybody's even looked into
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: this when was the last time the leaf scored power play a shorthanded and an
[biehner_]: even strength goal all in the same
[Darty Brodeur]: oh
[biehner_]: period
[roscoe]: right that's like
[Darty Brodeur]: the tryfecta
[roscoe]: the gordyhowhatric of goals
[biehner_]: yeah
[roscoe]: yeah that is pretty cool um now or anything on the first perform move on
[roscoe]: here good performance all around obviously from mary not letting anything in but honestly the
[roscoe]: leaves had so many less shots i wanna where's the numbers here first i can't
[roscoe]: see it period by period but leaves wrote shot thirty four to twenty three and
[roscoe]: i know it was like under twenty for the leaps for the majority they scored
[roscoe]: four goals on sixteen shots i think
[biehner_]: yeah
[roscoe]: brutal okay so alex talked ten minutes into the second opens the scoring
[biehner_]: oh
[roscoe]: for the buffalo sabers finally with a little tip in front of the net i
[roscoe]: should i have benched
[Darty Brodeur]: yeah
[roscoe]: him tonight and fantasy is the only person i know right but i put him
[roscoe]: in over i put new lander in so you know
[biehner_]: yeah
[roscoe]: kind of one of the other anyway
[biehner_]: tuck needs to go buy a power play ticket after that because he had no
[biehner_]: business tipping that in and i don't even think he was really even freakingtrying
[roscoe]: no he wasn't paying attention it just went off is stick
[biehner_]: oh
[roscoe]: he was looking the other way he was trying to get away from i think
[roscoe]: it was go
[Darty Brodeur]: owen power
[roscoe]: and
[Darty Brodeur]: play ticket
[roscoe]: yeah yeah
[biehner_]: oh uh h ye
[roscoe]: oh man a oh you mean hawke night in canada favorite star of the night
[roscoe]: page thomson
[roscoe]: did you know that he's really tall and he can score a lot of goals
[roscoe]: and he might be better than both connor mac david and austin matthew's combined
[roscoe]: oh i missed that
[biehner_]: yeah i did
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: i i wasn't as nervous as if it would have been the first game he
[biehner_]: was back because like i said like he had that what looked like almost a
[biehner_]: tweak in that leg in the game against pittsburgh and then he had a lot
[biehner_]: of big time saves in the new jersey game so i think it's i really
[biehner_]: don't think that they pulled a freddy and rushed him back i think he honestly
[biehner_]: took his time and he's he's back on a per cent so i'm not as
[biehner_]: as concerned because a little bump like that especially with all that padding i know
[biehner_]: goles will complain but to fall forward like the correct way to fall down like
[biehner_]: that you're you're fine like it's it's easier on the goal is than it is
[biehner_]: on an out player
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: with the shin pads out players have right
[Darty Brodeur]: better than doing the splits like that one guy the other night who had to
[biehner_]: oh
[Darty Brodeur]: get stretched off
[roscoe]: no man it wasn't even a split there's just a weird twist back like oh
[roscoe]: i don't even want think about that but i totally forgot that this was the
[roscoe]: power play where austin matthews got called for an illegal check to the head where
[roscoe]: he hit someone's shoulder with his shoulder while they had the puck i don't understi
[roscoe]: don't understand someone said because it was a blind side because he came in behind
[roscoe]: that's a penalty every time but i'm sorry this was not check
[biehner_]: oh
[roscoe]: to the head like
[biehner_]: as
[roscoe]: is
[biehner_]: pretty
[roscoe]: the exact same thing we saw the other night where it's like you're just getting
[roscoe]: called for being bigger than the other person and hitting them hard
[biehner_]: that's the it's the mat mat cook call like that is essentially
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: the exact
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: same style of hit that knocked marks of art out of the league right and
[biehner_]: nine
[roscoe]: ah
[biehner_]: times out of ten you see a hit like that and it's purely head contact
[biehner_]: so that's why that verbage is there as illegal hit
[Darty Brodeur]: oh
[biehner_]: to the head
[roscoe]: okay fair
[biehner_]: they can't call it
[roscoe]: it
[biehner_]: no
[roscoe]: he didn't
[biehner_]: it didn't
[roscoe]: it his head
[biehner_]: hit his head it was shoulder to shoulder but it was the blind side terminology
[biehner_]: of it because that's
[roscoe]: okay
[biehner_]: that's that's part of that rule right
[roscoe]: and oh oh
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: hm
[Darty Brodeur]: oh oh
[roscoe]: like the only argument i guess like from what we've recently learned about c d
[roscoe]: is there's like little those there's hits like that that don't necessarily go to the
[roscoe]: head where you know you're you're hit pretty hard like he came out on like
[roscoe]: a train you know
[biehner_]: yeah
[roscoe]: it's yeah but that's also playing hockey so it's when it comes to rule book
[roscoe]: it's kind of a i get what you're saying and i understand
[Darty Brodeur]: guy
[roscoe]: that
[Darty Brodeur]: thirty
[roscoe]: cavard
[Darty Brodeur]: four
[roscoe]: was
[Darty Brodeur]: is a
[roscoe]: kind
[Darty Brodeur]: bad
[roscoe]: of knocked
[Darty Brodeur]: boy
[roscoe]: out
[Darty Brodeur]: now
[roscoe]: for this but
[Darty Brodeur]: bad to the bone
[roscoe]: it's just tough coal
[Darty Brodeur]: bad
[roscoe]: oh but a pair
[roscoe]: it's what everybody wanted to see but every time you hit somebody he gets called
[roscoe]: for it he's too big yeah bye bye bye back okay also rasmus sanden took
[roscoe]: a hooking call on this one sanden has not been
[Darty Brodeur]: fall
[roscoe]: on his
[Darty Brodeur]: from
[roscoe]: game
[Darty Brodeur]: grace
[roscoe]: why have we not benched him and put victor met mente back in
[biehner_]: i was wondering that myself but
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: i don't know if keith is just ridiculously loyal or what's going on because look
[biehner_]: at last year we were asking the same thing about justin hall all year last
[biehner_]: year exact
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: same
[roscoe]: but they
[biehner_]: thing
[roscoe]: actually benched they benched justin hall a couple times last year and he played better
[roscoe]: when he came back
[biehner_]: but
[roscoe]: he was
[biehner_]: the
[roscoe]: a healthy scratch
[biehner_]: yeah but a couple of times doesn't warrant the thirty eight times that it should
[biehner_]: have been
[roscoe]: no but it was for more than a few games like they had him scratched
[roscoe]: for like it was three or four and then they brought him back and he
[roscoe]: played better and then they did that again later in the season like they really
[roscoe]: showed like hey we're not happy with this but for some reason sanden who took
[roscoe]: them for a run for months is just given a pass on this and i
[roscoe]: don't really get it and they went out and got all this defensive depth
[Darty Brodeur]: well
[roscoe]: they
[Darty Brodeur]: justine
[roscoe]: just letting
[Darty Brodeur]: halton
[roscoe]: him
[Darty Brodeur]: also
[roscoe]: play
[Darty Brodeur]: hold
[roscoe]: like
[Darty Brodeur]: out
[roscoe]: ship
[Darty Brodeur]: for the king's ransom of one point five million right so
[roscoe]: well
[biehner_]: ye
[roscoe]: that's what i mean it's like the fact that he held out on them for
[roscoe]: so long i don't know why they're they're giving him a pass like they should
[roscoe]: be
[biehner_]: i
[roscoe]: harder on him than justin hall who they've brought up within their system you know
[roscoe]: for years now
[biehner_]: i think if you if you look at it from more of an organizational standpoint
[biehner_]: and yes i i galaxy brain all this kind of ship all the time
[roscoe]: galaxy been
[Darty Brodeur]: linda
[biehner_]: um m um like sam dene is the type of defense man they want like
[biehner_]: the fact that they went and got georgie ben that's out of the ordinary that's
[biehner_]: almost like a dubious move trying to shut people on twitter up really like
[roscoe]: no and look at work
[biehner_]: yeah like the what justin hall is when he's good like when he's on what
[biehner_]: riley is with sanding is lilegrand that's the style of defense man they want because
[biehner_]: that's the type of game they want to play
[roscoe]: like
[biehner_]: so
[roscoe]: jacob check and i know
[biehner_]: even even if you look at the pizza that sanding served up the other day
[biehner_]: for crosbie's backhander you listen to keith's comments afterwards
[roscoe]: it was when it was one of those gross pittsburgh pizas where the cheeses
[biehner_]: yeah
[roscoe]: cold on top and they don't actually like melt it it's a thing look it
[roscoe]: up
[biehner_]: i think they just use like naco cheese they don't actually melt real cheese on
[biehner_]: it do they
[roscoe]: no they cook the bread in the sauce and the oven and then they put
[roscoe]: cold toppings and cold cheese on top
[Darty Brodeur]: a little
[roscoe]: after
[Darty Brodeur]: penguin
[roscoe]: it's
[Darty Brodeur]: finfogra
[roscoe]: disgusting
[biehner_]: that would explain why oh
[roscoe]: only a little penguin frog
[biehner_]: that would explain why everyone
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: in pittsburgh looks miserable all the time
[roscoe]: yeah they don't know how to make a pizza college
[biehner_]: um
[roscoe]: kids know how to make
[biehner_]: m
[roscoe]: pizza
[biehner_]: but like even even after that pizza that he
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: served up in pittsburgh keith defended them he basically said like all our guys know
[biehner_]: how to make that move or something along those lines like or know how to
[biehner_]: make that play because that's basically what they've been instructed to do they've been instructed
[biehner_]: to do these high high low outlet passes because they want the guys get better
[biehner_]: two on one's three on
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: one's breakaway stuff like that it just it bounced on him or he wiped on
[biehner_]: it it's going to happen it's just it happened to him where you know
[roscoe]: ye
[biehner_]: everything has been happening to him happening to him over the last couple of weeks
[biehner_]: and before i sound like i'm ridiculously contradicting myself here i think it's
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: different from what we were seeing with hall last year because san den goes and
[biehner_]: he makes one of these mistakes and he doesn't fall on his ass and let
[biehner_]: someone come like let the whole
[roscoe]: uh
[biehner_]: team come in he'll get back up and he'll try to run whoever he just
[biehner_]: gave the puck to throw the boards like hel try to make up for it
[biehner_]: he's just maybe trying a little too hard
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: so i agree he needs to sit for a game or two just to kind
[biehner_]: of maybe get his head back into it a little bit and i was very
[biehner_]: very impressed with what we saw from meta and even from philip crawl like you
[biehner_]: look at some of the players that we've had come up and play for us
[biehner_]: small
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: small sample sizes i'm not saying these guys are gonna win the norse they've been
[biehner_]: good
[roscoe]: yeah and time on nice leader after the second period was justin hall at sixteen
[roscoe]: minutes and twenty
[Darty Brodeur]: so
[roscoe]: four
[Darty Brodeur]: what
[roscoe]: seconds
[Darty Brodeur]: you're saying
[roscoe]: thanks
[Darty Brodeur]: banner
[roscoe]: mike
[Darty Brodeur]: is
[roscoe]: for that
[Darty Brodeur]: sanden
[roscoe]: one already go ahead
[Darty Brodeur]: he gets knocked down but he gets back up again you're never goin
[roscoe]: uh ah
[Darty Brodeur]: he's a little tub thumper
[roscoe]: oh little tub thumper um so just on the note about time on ice because
[roscoe]: i didn't mention the the first period guess who led the leafs in time on
[roscoe]: ice in the first period
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: i'm just going to take a complete and utter stab here and say willy
[Darty Brodeur]: oh
[roscoe]: oh it was mark giordano with eight minutes and fourteen seconds in the first period
[roscoe]: holy
[biehner_]: not a boy
[roscoe]: shit
[Darty Brodeur]: his style has been on
[roscoe]: yeah
[Darty Brodeur]: point
[roscoe]: adapoiis
[Darty Brodeur]: as well he's an absolute
[roscoe]: right
[Darty Brodeur]: mobster out there like like marner and matthews they're looking like
[roscoe]: m
[Darty Brodeur]: you now little vogal
[roscoe]: m
[Darty Brodeur]: g q but dane he's he's still got that the god other things going on
[Darty Brodeur]: for him
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: yes oh
[roscoe]: h oh oh
[roscoe]: oh yeah uh then move just to finish off the second here we had willy
[roscoe]: kneelander so i for the second time this year the leaves have gotten a power
[roscoe]: play and as it goes to commercial i'm like big willy p p goal coming
[roscoe]: up and he did it again last time i called it and this time manifested
[roscoe]: that to existence so you're welcome location for the big willie p p g h
[roscoe]: and then he got another one to start the third off so man william neelander
[roscoe]: is just no matter where we put him it's like they're scrambling the line up
[roscoe]: every night how do we get matthews on how do we get you know to
[roscoe]: far as his four hundred they gotta keep figuring things out willie's like gonna put
[roscoe]: me wherever you want i'm cool i'll score wherever i'm fine yeah i wish more
[roscoe]: people had that edit oh
[biehner_]: m
[biehner_]: what
[biehner_]: well i think some of the thing with him is like look it through the
[biehner_]: history basically since since our parents were kids like there's always been someone on the
[biehner_]: team for the fans to love
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: that even if they got four goals a year they gave everything they left
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: all their blood all their sweat out on the ice
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: and despite what numbers he puts up willie doesn't do that
[roscoe]: no
[biehner_]: willis willie's just there he has no panic threshold whatsoever which lie in a good
[biehner_]: way it's like watching cable in his prime back on
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: d he doesn't panic like he absolutely does not but on the same
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: same token
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: when he should panic
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: or should put it up a gear he doesn't visibly look like he is
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: i think because he has the
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: talent because he has the skating ability it doesn't look like he's
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: trying as hard as he actually is i think sometimes
[roscoe]: but i mean when it came to the playoffs he was always the best one
[Darty Brodeur]: and
[roscoe]: seems
[Darty Brodeur]: that's the point i was
[roscoe]: year
[Darty Brodeur]: going
[roscoe]: after
[Darty Brodeur]: to make
[roscoe]: year
[Darty Brodeur]: is people just seem to forget
[roscoe]: dirty
[Darty Brodeur]: that
[roscoe]: what's
[Darty Brodeur]: this
[roscoe]: up
[Darty Brodeur]: guy was leading our team in in points up until like last year for the
[Darty Brodeur]: play office right so
[roscoe]: oh
[Darty Brodeur]: correct me if i'm wrong but at least he was one of the better ones
[Darty Brodeur]: ah and in start contrast to marner and matthews and also i get it this
[Darty Brodeur]: guy doesn't look like darcy fucking tucker all right but yes
[roscoe]: oh
[Darty Brodeur]: he sometimes floats but when he's out there and he's
[roscoe]: yes
[Darty Brodeur]: absolutely
[roscoe]: oh
[Darty Brodeur]: banging that guy like there's there's no stopping look at tonight
[roscoe]: oh
[roscoe]: shout out to dart who is going on like an hour here on this elyptical
[roscoe]: oh yeah and honestly it's when it comes to what the leaves downfall like if
[roscoe]: you're going to if you're gonna take anything that they did wrong tonight out of
[roscoe]: it's hard to out of you know a big wind like this but um because
[roscoe]: we always have to comment on something they're still beating themselves like they gave up
[roscoe]: the only two goals where power play goals they had six penalties tonight like there's
[roscoe]: a reason justin hall led the team with twenty four minutes tonight because of power
[roscoe]: penalty kills so that's the only thing they got to tighten up i mean obviously
[roscoe]: the cave the sabers in tonight but ukapecalucaan was rough like i said they scored
[roscoe]: four on sixteen shots so not that he had a chance on some of them
[roscoe]: but still that's just the only thing you got a clean up but some rough
[roscoe]: penalties here and there i know some of these were bullshit calls but you know
[roscoe]: you gotta six is too many even when there are bad ones
[roscoe]: yeah show casey middle stad manages to get one with five minutes left on the
[roscoe]: power play because again like i said you just
[biehner_]: yeah
[roscoe]: couldn't have finished this one out five one could you
[Darty Brodeur]: let
[roscoe]: like
[Darty Brodeur]: that up the
[roscoe]: so annoying
[biehner_]: but that
[biehner_]: that's like a typical golly has played two or three games in the last calendar
[biehner_]: year type goal against though because he had
[roscoe]: i don't
[biehner_]: it
[roscoe]: even put that on murray though like
[biehner_]: no
[roscoe]: it's
[biehner_]: no but
[roscoe]: it's the fact that they were on the penalty kill in the first place
[biehner_]: but at the same time he did have it like i'm not
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: i'm not trying to criticize and i was just saying like that's that's the type
[biehner_]: of thing when you're not you're not at top form right cause you give him
[biehner_]: thirty games into the season where he's
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: played thirty games
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: and he knows that
[Darty Brodeur]: and
[biehner_]: puck's
[Darty Brodeur]: fell
[biehner_]: there
[Darty Brodeur]: did
[biehner_]: and
[Darty Brodeur]: he
[biehner_]: he's
[Darty Brodeur]: not end
[biehner_]: not
[Darty Brodeur]: off
[biehner_]: moving
[Darty Brodeur]: with a nine four one tonight like please
[roscoe]: my
[roscoe]: oh yeah
[biehner_]: oh yeah yeah i'm not i'm
[roscoe]: yes
[biehner_]: not trying to pin anything negative on him he's played
[Darty Brodeur]: yeah
[biehner_]: great since he came back in and even tonight he's kind of maybe because you
[biehner_]: could see a little
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: bit in the pittsburgh and then you could see it a little bit more against
[biehner_]: new jersey they were trying to pinpoint high glove on them that was his that
[biehner_]: was his problem in the playoffs with pittsburgh even though they won the cup that
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: was his yeah that was the high glove and there was even a couple of
[biehner_]: times tonight where he made a glove and he gave it a little how
[roscoe]: yes
[biehner_]: dy do to kind of show no no i got it
[roscoe]: yeah yeah and just on the penalties real quick before we move on like j
[roscoe]: t is good for one a game it seems just because the ref seem to
[roscoe]: make one up for tavars every night but i don't expect he was to also
[roscoe]: get one that's kind of like one or the other they tried to take one
[roscoe]: of those two guys out for two minutes every game but it's the fact that
[roscoe]: i know we were talking about how well he was playing willy picked up too
[roscoe]: and liligrenand sanden each got one too so it's just that up guys come
[Darty Brodeur]: time
[roscoe]: on
[Darty Brodeur]: on
[roscoe]: come on yah ilioililabush thou was nowhere tonight i was excited
[Darty Brodeur]: yeah
[roscoe]: to see him again
[Darty Brodeur]: bosh
[biehner_]: he was on all fours in the crease for one of willy's goals
[roscoe]: yeah that was him oh what about riley she and celebrating a saved by matt
[roscoe]: murray that he thought winning
[biehner_]: the guy is
[roscoe]: ah
[biehner_]: just ridiculous
[roscoe]: so most people like i mean mike vituated he's like whoever number eight was and
[roscoe]: i'm like googling like whose number eight on buffalo it's okay so there was a
[roscoe]: shot from the point and murray made glove say and his hands just went up
[roscoe]: then he kind of did like a he tried to turn it into like he's
[roscoe]: oh
[Darty Brodeur]: what happened
[roscoe]: wait what happened like why do i have my hands up right now i'm going
[roscoe]: to turn this into something else so good three stars the night william newland over
[roscoe]: two goals john to varas with a goal
[Darty Brodeur]: i
[roscoe]: and to assist and matt murray with thirty two saves leave taking all three
[Darty Brodeur]: really
[roscoe]: stars
[Darty Brodeur]: just
[roscoe]: and a
[Darty Brodeur]: can't
[roscoe]: five
[Darty Brodeur]: seem
[roscoe]: to
[Darty Brodeur]: to lock
[roscoe]: win
[Darty Brodeur]: down that hot trick
[roscoe]: grabbing the
[Darty Brodeur]: anny
[roscoe]: two point how do you do no no no not going to happen yeah ah
[roscoe]: welve game point streak so the longest running in the n h l still and
[roscoe]: i think the longest n leaf longest leaf since like the forties
[biehner_]: yeah laurence car
[Darty Brodeur]: see willy
[roscoe]: unreal
[Darty Brodeur]: doesn't get
[roscoe]: man
[Darty Brodeur]: hat trix because you
[roscoe]: go
[Darty Brodeur]: can't
[roscoe]: ahead
[Darty Brodeur]: put
[roscoe]: dirty
[Darty Brodeur]: a hat on those beautiful gold locks all right
[roscoe]: oh oh man but no honestly like the fact that william nelander and and mitchmaner
[roscoe]: have been the whipping boys of toronto media like look they're the two that are
[roscoe]: performing the best right now i know we're not trying to slight austin matthews and
[roscoe]: yes john devar is having an amazing start to a season i'm just saying like
[roscoe]: a twelve game point streak and just neander being consistent from the get go with
[roscoe]: only a handful of off nights like these guys are great and we have them
[roscoe]: for a while like
[biehner_]: marner at twenty two points j t at twenty one matthews at twenty
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: and willie at twenty
[roscoe]: unreal man unreal how quickly that picked up after a slow start
[Darty Brodeur]: and yet bums all of them right
[roscoe]: always november man what's november
[roscoe]: ums man i know m
[roscoe]: okay so what do we think you want to do don't you want to do
[roscoe]: pretty good since we did the three stories went to give it to somebody else
[roscoe]: yeah i gotta where's my thing here it is
[roscoe]: m
[roscoe]: all right so who was pretty good tonight we'll start with mrelyptical
[Darty Brodeur]: um so i always showed out willy style
[roscoe]: he man
[Darty Brodeur]: so
[roscoe]: himself
[Darty Brodeur]: i'm not goin
[roscoe]: dardybritter
[Darty Brodeur]: a do that tonight i'm going o say because we should try to pick someone
[Darty Brodeur]: that's
[roscoe]: ah
[Darty Brodeur]: it on the bottom with a call an croke right
[roscoe]: at
[Darty Brodeur]: glad you got his
[roscoe]: not a star
[Darty Brodeur]: ally ryyncrocris
[roscoe]: nice killer crock
[roscoe]: uh uh love it killer crock taking that one bean or what about you
[biehner_]: i'm going to have to go with megan again i know he didn't really like
[biehner_]: he didn't get anything on the score sheet and
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: actually his ice time was a little lower than i though too i felt like
[biehner_]: he was a little bit of a pest out there again getting underneath people and
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: causing some havoc
[roscoe]: yeah he had two shots three hits a block in only nine minutes he had
[roscoe]: the least on the whole team so the fact that i mean he's got basically
[biehner_]: yeah
[roscoe]: the same and more effective numbers and other people i mean he's got better numbers
[roscoe]: than zacasthanris and alex cur foot on the night who played seventeen eighteen minutes so
[roscoe]: let's take let's put that in a perspective
[biehner_]: he makes sure that you know he's out there when he's out there
[roscoe]: yeah nobody else played less than ten minutes on the whole team and he played
[roscoe]: nine seventeen hundred percent on the face off dot like come on i think what
[roscoe]: about you yeah not a boy
[roscoe]: yeah and i agree but i'm going to give mine to and i'm on agree
[roscoe]: with mike the fanatic on this one because he's finally had a good game paring
[roscoe]: val did not look like garbage tonight i'm not saying he was fantastic but he
[roscoe]: has just been so brutal to watch out there and he's finally like he made
[roscoe]: some good as he was using the body a bit he was digging in the
[roscoe]: corners
[Darty Brodeur]: yeah
[roscoe]: good pass on the
[Darty Brodeur]: yeah
[roscoe]: whatever goal it was was it yarn croaks or yeah yaroncroks yeah so i mean
[Darty Brodeur]: give
[roscoe]: he
[Darty Brodeur]: us a little
[roscoe]: had a good
[Darty Brodeur]: growl
[roscoe]: game and he
[Darty Brodeur]: john
[roscoe]: has not
[Darty Brodeur]: give us a
[roscoe]: had
[Darty Brodeur]: little growl
[roscoe]: any of those yet so i got to give it to him recognized
[roscoe]: oh god okay we got a couple of things we'll touch on before we had
[roscoe]: out here banner there was an interesting thing that happened
[biehner_]: oh
[roscoe]: with which league was this in i'll let you take this
[biehner_]: ah
[roscoe]: one i wanted you to share it last night or last episode
[biehner_]: so the n c double a um michigan wolverines they've had a lot of turn
[biehner_]: over last couple of years you know you had owen power baneers um why am
[biehner_]: i drawing a blank on the kid with columbus um anyways they've had a great
[biehner_]: young team a lot of turn over as you as you've been starting to get
[biehner_]: with n c double as n h starts picking some of their players a lot
[biehner_]: more and the wolverines actually have run into a bunch of injuries and illness over
[biehner_]: the past couple weeks the point that on thursday night they had to dress their
[biehner_]: third string goal tender at left wing
[roscoe]: yeah do you have his numbers like how did he do
[biehner_]: honest to god i bet you any money he only played about ten seconds because
[biehner_]: i've checked three different sites for box scores and i don't even see any ice
[biehner_]: time whatsoever
[roscoe]: i would
[biehner_]: i know
[roscoe]: love to see that show up on his hawk d b like a lead prospects
[roscoe]: that he played left wing for a game
[biehner_]: right like i know he i was reading a couple of tweets i was doing
[biehner_]: some digging to try to see if i could find
[roscoe]: m
[biehner_]: anything and at one point he was in the penalty box so the fact that
[biehner_]: he's not on score sheet i'm assuming it was some sort of bench minor and
[biehner_]: everybody was commenting
[roscoe]: m
[biehner_]: they've never seen someone skate that fast from a penley box over to a bench
[biehner_]: before
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: little little humor there
[roscoe]: they just kept him on the bench and then oh we took a bench minor
[roscoe]: yeah put it put him in put him in get get him out of here
[biehner_]: pretty much yeah
[roscoe]: oh god m and the other thing i just gotta i know you were like
[roscoe]: i don't know if i want to call them out but i want to call
[roscoe]: them out because this is some shady publicity stunt b s well so bene got
[roscoe]: a ere you can start it off and then i'll roast the tim horton jersey
[roscoe]: thing
[biehner_]: so i came across this
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: i don't know
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: if i want to say company probably some dude in his mom's basement um m
[biehner_]: doing like the give away is we've all seen them you know a hundred retwets
[biehner_]: two undrretweets whatever and you get a shirt or a hat or whatever and they're
[biehner_]: doing it for jersey's so i had message them saying you know how many retweets
[biehner_]: for new leaf reversed retro done up in honor tim horton because i'm that kind
[biehner_]: of person so super simple number seven on the back no name bar just leave
[biehner_]: it and they came back said yeah four hundred and fifty retweets in forty eight
[biehner_]: hours which
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: if you
[roscoe]: ye
[biehner_]: if you look at my social media profiles it's pretty steep i don't have a
[biehner_]: massive presence on social media
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: but you know i figured out what the ell will gie it a shot never
[biehner_]: having participated
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: in anything like this before i wasn't sure are you allowed to tag people
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: in the initial post what you know what's going on so i had specifically asked
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: are there any rules i need to know about and i was told no anything
[biehner_]: goes good luck
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: and anyways we got off to a hot start like you guys you're all awesome
[biehner_]: and yeah long story short they ended up ended up not following through and
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: they dished out multiple times to multiple people within the leaf fan community that same
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: large number four hundred four fifty
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: five hundred retweets
[Darty Brodeur]: so what if a hundred of those followers
[biehner_]: within
[Darty Brodeur]: and retweets
[biehner_]: the same
[roscoe]: so
[biehner_]: time
[roscoe]: here's
[Darty Brodeur]: might
[roscoe]: the
[Darty Brodeur]: have
[biehner_]: frame
[roscoe]: thing
[Darty Brodeur]: been from the sultan of bruni
[biehner_]: cold
[Darty Brodeur]: and no longer
[biehner_]: kay
[Darty Brodeur]: exist at this present time
[roscoe]: oh
[Darty Brodeur]: wins a win right
[roscoe]: uh ah well see this is where i
[biehner_]: ah
[roscoe]: kind of wanted to jump in because what i think is ridiculous is that this
[roscoe]: company didn't restrict how many of these they were going to do like so obviously
[roscoe]: they had no intention of a bunch of people being able to complete this goal
[roscoe]: and they just wanted the publicity because if you give out within the same community
[roscoe]: because obviously there was bunch of leaves fans on twitter that we're using this this
[roscoe]: contest try to get out of jersey like if you give it out to that
[roscoe]: many people people are going to start only supporting their friends and not just reach
[roscoe]: reading like oh the one person in our circle that is going for this like
[roscoe]: great let's all help this person get to jersey no it's there's five people that
[roscoe]: are all doing the same thing and everyone's going okay this is either a scamp
[roscoe]: or i'm just not going to do this like this is dumb so all this
[roscoe]: jersey flock did was get their name out everywhere and give out no jerseys so
[roscoe]: boo
[Darty Brodeur]: fraud
[roscoe]: shame on you it's not cool yeah anything goes meaning you know a couple hey
[roscoe]: you on but twitter knowing there were bots on it
[Darty Brodeur]: anything
[roscoe]: okay anything
[Darty Brodeur]: goes
[roscoe]: you do on twitter that can happen
[roscoe]: in lone's twitter anything goes oh right
[Darty Brodeur]: yes
[roscoe]: anybody want to throw something in here before we close out for the night
[biehner_]: so i just wanted to give another quick quick shout out to connor bernard
[roscoe]: i
[biehner_]: of the regina pats
[roscoe]: oh what now
[biehner_]: so he has he is currently
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: on a twenty one game
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: point streak
[roscoe]: okay
[biehner_]: at nineteen
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: goals twenty eight s s for forty seven points
[roscoe]: m m oh my god
[biehner_]: he's got he's got a hundred and thirty five shots in those games as well
[biehner_]: and
[roscoe]: how
[biehner_]: and thirty penalty minutes
[roscoe]: oh interesting what's he doing
[biehner_]: so probably just getting back at people that are trying to stop him they're trying
[biehner_]: to bobby or him and take his knees out
[Darty Brodeur]: now i had something but i
[roscoe]: love
[Darty Brodeur]: lost
[roscoe]: it
[Darty Brodeur]: it and it was probably in a
[roscoe]: dirty
[Darty Brodeur]: similar
[roscoe]: what's
[Darty Brodeur]: vein
[roscoe]: up
[Darty Brodeur]: to whatever bean was doing with jersey flock so i'm going to hold it in
[Darty Brodeur]: just because you know i put some bad energy
[roscoe]: oh
[Darty Brodeur]: out there
[biehner_]: uh yeah
[roscoe]: all right so next leaf game is on monday against the iles it's still at
[roscoe]: home what do we think in here islanders i mean nelson and lee off to
[roscoe]: a good art baral not so much but otherwise they're they're pretty boring team to
[roscoe]: play against they can lock things down like we saw against the devils
[Darty Brodeur]: pajama
[roscoe]: the other night
[Darty Brodeur]: boy
[roscoe]: weird how lou just leaves that behind with teams
[biehner_]: yeah
[roscoe]: oh ah
[roscoe]: oh yeah
[roscoe]: oh yeah yeah it's a good thing to do when it's working and you're winning
[roscoe]: it's another when you know we've seen him do it and it doesn't yeah yeah
[roscoe]: i mean i don't know we've seen him quite a bit of line juggling the
[roscoe]: last couple of games more to try to generate something and not to try to
[roscoe]: keep things fresh i think this is the first that he's done it while they're
[roscoe]: they're winning
[biehner_]: so completely unrelated to the islanders and that but do you think the devils get
[biehner_]: to thirteen against the islanders
[Darty Brodeur]: they're
[biehner_]: against the oislers
[Darty Brodeur]: they're
[biehner_]: and
[Darty Brodeur]: on
[biehner_]: then
[Darty Brodeur]: a
[biehner_]: we
[Darty Brodeur]: freak in heat
[roscoe]: the
[Darty Brodeur]: or
[roscoe]: oil
[Darty Brodeur]: been
[roscoe]: in
[Darty Brodeur]: er all right so you know
[biehner_]: like that the
[Darty Brodeur]: don't
[biehner_]: islanders
[Darty Brodeur]: doubt that don't doubt the devil's
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: i just i just took the late eighties and early early seventies and early eighties
[biehner_]: and mixed them into one team
[roscoe]: where the devil's
[biehner_]: because
[roscoe]: sports
[biehner_]: they
[roscoe]: a team
[biehner_]: they beat the senators tonight to go to twelve straight
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: then the leafs play
[roscoe]: wait
[biehner_]: em
[roscoe]: wow
[biehner_]: let's
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: play
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: him next
[roscoe]: the leaves
[biehner_]: week
[roscoe]: play
[biehner_]: again
[roscoe]: them again on wednesday
[biehner_]: would be fourteen straight
[roscoe]: okay you got to stop them at fourteen
[Darty Brodeur]: at least not
[roscoe]: and
[Darty Brodeur]: better
[roscoe]: come
[Darty Brodeur]: on their second
[roscoe]: on
[Darty Brodeur]: looks though like did we
[biehner_]: got to
[Darty Brodeur]: lose the second game vegas or i can't remember any more damn it
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: yeah we lost both
[roscoe]: yeah but they beat they beat the penguins the second time though they lost them
[roscoe]: on the friday and they beat them on tuesday so
[biehner_]: m
[roscoe]: you know i mean the devils i think those guys can't be like that forever
[roscoe]: can they
[biehner_]: no
[Darty Brodeur]: isn't there
[biehner_]: there's
[roscoe]: that's the
[biehner_]: no
[Darty Brodeur]: dandy
[biehner_]: way
[roscoe]: only
[Darty Brodeur]: situation
[roscoe]: thing i'm counting
[Darty Brodeur]: a little precarious
[roscoe]: on is like
[Darty Brodeur]: right
[roscoe]: their
[Darty Brodeur]: now
[roscoe]: kids this is going to fade out eventually but
[roscoe]: they got vite and blackwood blackwood's hurt vitextollyne that's all i know yeah but okay
[roscoe]: so now that you guys are all here i brought this up with step last
[roscoe]: episode but how bad is washington at assessing their goal situation for letting vite and
[roscoe]: samson of just leave essentially like they didn't qualify samsonov for like two million or
[roscoe]: whatever it was and they moved on from vitekvanachec
[Darty Brodeur]: oh
[roscoe]: and now both of them are fantastic and darcy kemper is exactly what darcy kemper
[roscoe]: always is
[biehner_]: i'm i have no inside information
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: on this whatsoever but i'm kind of wondering if maybe this this wasn't the management
[roscoe]: m
[biehner_]: group if this was the players like ovibaxstrum oh she everybody
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: going going and saying hey look these guys haven't done it for us the past
[biehner_]: couple of years because they had vantacek and samsona for a little
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: while there
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: haven't done it we're on our last legs you guys need to do something
[roscoe]: yeah that's fair they are getting
[biehner_]: m
[roscoe]: to the end of her the run need
[Darty Brodeur]: so
[roscoe]: somebody
[Darty Brodeur]: i'm
[roscoe]: that's
[Darty Brodeur]: just
[roscoe]: seasoned and why not go for the
[Darty Brodeur]: go
[roscoe]: person
[Darty Brodeur]: conspiracy
[roscoe]: that just won the
[Darty Brodeur]: theory
[roscoe]: cup
[Darty Brodeur]: here but
[roscoe]: dart
[Darty Brodeur]: you know i don't think ov has changed his perspective on i'm glad in
[roscoe]: yeah
[Darty Brodeur]: routine all right and these guys that left are both slow no m i mistaken
[Darty Brodeur]: right that could also have been impactful because some of these guys don't agree and
[Darty Brodeur]: some of the guys do right
[roscoe]: yes
[Darty Brodeur]: that could be something
[biehner_]: oh
[Darty Brodeur]: yeah
[biehner_]: sam
[Darty Brodeur]: as
[biehner_]: sonabs
[Darty Brodeur]: m saying not every
[biehner_]: russian
[Darty Brodeur]: russian in the league like has the same opinion as
[roscoe]: well
[Darty Brodeur]: ovirightand i can
[roscoe]: i mean
[Darty Brodeur]: get
[roscoe]: that could still
[Darty Brodeur]: contentious
[roscoe]: be
[biehner_]: oh
[Darty Brodeur]: in the locker room i don't know
[roscoe]: i
[Darty Brodeur]: just
[roscoe]: no i mean it's not a
[roscoe]: yeah exactly i don't think it's that far fetched especially with the current situation actually
[roscoe]: here we've got you know a couple o minutes we can talk about this the
[roscoe]: world cup of oki speaking of she not happening again so are we just going
[roscoe]: to forget about hawke over being like an international competition or something over again because
[roscoe]: we're getting to the point where people aren't excited about because they don't have anything
[roscoe]: to go off of like the golden goal there's people that weren't born
[biehner_]: yeah
[roscoe]: when that happened that are like able to watch hawke and form memories now that's
[roscoe]: how long ago that happened
[roscoe]: yeah yeah
[roscoe]: oh well look the thing that the most casual fans of hawke watch and i
[roscoe]: know it's because it's the time of year when everybody's home and everything but the
[roscoe]: world juniors everybody gets beiandeering for team canada and it's just any time it's a
[roscoe]: national team people get behind it and that's something that the professional level has just
[roscoe]: completely lacked over the last decade and it's going to be hard to get people
[Darty Brodeur]: and
[roscoe]: excite
[Darty Brodeur]: if
[roscoe]: about
[Darty Brodeur]: you
[roscoe]: it
[Darty Brodeur]: look
[roscoe]: again
[Darty Brodeur]: at like
[roscoe]: because
[Darty Brodeur]: the
[roscoe]: there's
[Darty Brodeur]: history
[roscoe]: no steam
[Darty Brodeur]: of basketball
[roscoe]: behind it
[Darty Brodeur]: in the olympic right
[roscoe]: ard
[Darty Brodeur]: you
[roscoe]: go
[Darty Brodeur]: got
[roscoe]: ahead
[Darty Brodeur]: the dream teams you got th redeem team you need we need something similar to
[Darty Brodeur]: happen with hawke all right because otherwise like he how important it was say in
[Darty Brodeur]: the nineties for the dream team with magic johnson and michael jordan and then he
[Darty Brodeur]: got you know copy briant and la bron james right like those those names i
[Darty Brodeur]: say them you guys might not be fan a basketball but you'll know who i'm
[Darty Brodeur]: talking about right we need to do the same thing with hockey because if garry
[Darty Brodeur]: batman screws this up that's going to be huge huge oversite huge stupidity from the
[Darty Brodeur]: national hockey league m
[roscoe]: and the players association too they can't be left out of it because they're also
[roscoe]: not helping the situation nor
[biehner_]: honest
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: to god i think it's probably more of the
[roscoe]: ah
[biehner_]: pa than anything
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: because think about it this way there has never been a time in the history
[biehner_]: of hawke the united states has had a stronger team if you go like if
[biehner_]: we if i give everyone here a project let's go and build our teams take
[biehner_]: your main countries and let's put together our teams and tell to say who you
[biehner_]: think would win i can pretty much guarantee honest to god i think the states
[biehner_]: would win not only do
[roscoe]: if
[biehner_]: you
[roscoe]: you were
[biehner_]: have
[roscoe]: doing all time teams and building a team u s a most of your players
[roscoe]: would probably be currently playing
[biehner_]: yeah absolutely you'd have a handful of guy like if it's an all time
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: team you'd have a handful that played back when like you know brian leach was
[biehner_]: incredible brett hall was incredible
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: yeah but like now
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: matt you can roll out matthews and
[roscoe]: no
[biehner_]: michael as your first two centers
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: come on you have patrick kane as
[roscoe]: yes
[biehner_]: a lower level winner because he doesn't have to be the one and only anymore
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: now adam fox charlie macavoy jacob tube on defense like
[roscoe]: perfect
[biehner_]: thomson like you name it that kuchuck brothers
[roscoe]: the chocks
[biehner_]: as much as i hate matthew
[roscoe]: jenks
[biehner_]: like spencer
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: night in that
[Darty Brodeur]: i
[roscoe]: brock besser clayton keller alex debrinket je gensell
[Darty Brodeur]: but they
[roscoe]: kyle
[Darty Brodeur]: got no
[roscoe]: conner
[Darty Brodeur]: tents
[roscoe]: chris crater
[Darty Brodeur]: they
[roscoe]: brock
[Darty Brodeur]: got no
[roscoe]: nelson
[Darty Brodeur]: tends
[roscoe]: j
[Darty Brodeur]: and what
[roscoe]: t
[Darty Brodeur]: does
[roscoe]: miller
[Darty Brodeur]: russia have they've got some
[biehner_]: teams
[Darty Brodeur]: of the best
[biehner_]: loaded
[Darty Brodeur]: gold tenders in the world and i feel like canada is pretty neutral like canada
[Darty Brodeur]: could wax most teams but
[roscoe]: ah
[Darty Brodeur]: those small things could be the difference makers now be really fun to watch to
[Darty Brodeur]: see how that plays out
[roscoe]: oh
[roscoe]: what
[biehner_]: connor hallabuck spencer
[roscoe]: conner
[Darty Brodeur]: not this
[biehner_]: night
[roscoe]: hello
[Darty Brodeur]: season
[biehner_]: john
[roscoe]: buck
[biehner_]: gibson
[roscoe]: j gotanger
[biehner_]: an jury okay
[roscoe]: i would take otonjerand hellaback
[biehner_]: i just like as much as i hate that man if there was something that
[biehner_]: would make the the united states look good
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: he would be all for it
[roscoe]: trivial question of all the active american goals in the n h l who has
[roscoe]: the best safe percentage
[biehner_]: just because you're asking a trivial question i'm going to say crag anderson
[roscoe]: oh
[Darty Brodeur]: spencer night
[biehner_]: no no no no no
[Darty Brodeur]: just
[biehner_]: no
[Darty Brodeur]: because
[biehner_]: no
[Darty Brodeur]: i was just
[biehner_]: it's
[Darty Brodeur]: be
[biehner_]: quick
[Darty Brodeur]: was talking ship
[roscoe]: nope
[biehner_]: got
[roscoe]: no
[biehner_]: yeah
[roscoe]: guys hello buck is second by point zero zero two to jeremy swagman
[Darty Brodeur]: so
[roscoe]: with a
[Darty Brodeur]: azy
[roscoe]: nine eighteen his fifty six games in the n h l
[biehner_]: yeah definitely would
[roscoe]: obviously
[biehner_]: not have
[roscoe]: hello
[biehner_]: got
[roscoe]: buck
[biehner_]: i definitely would not have got sweaming but i was thinking more long lines of
[biehner_]: goals that have played a lot more because i didn't even remember that he was
[biehner_]: american that's why i thought
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: quick
[roscoe]: yeah seaman hellabokotanger smith and stollars are your your top five american active and chill
[roscoe]: goles by safe percentage so i mean look nobody for nine twenty but they're all
[roscoe]: good like and just back to the point like i think the states
[biehner_]: yeah
[roscoe]: would by all means want to present their team on the world stage so the
[roscoe]: fact that like that's garry betman's okay let me let me frame this garry batman
[roscoe]: works for the owners the owners get money when there's more interest in the teams
[roscoe]: those teams are viewed mostly by americans because there's you know majority american teams so
[roscoe]: if you put said american players on the grand stage of an international tournament you
[roscoe]: have people from all over the world watching your fantastic american players and then they
[roscoe]: watch your american teams and then the game gets a ton more money in from
[roscoe]: advertisers because now you have fans of you know austin matthews and jack igel from
[roscoe]: wherever in south korea or in england or in scotland or in australia or wherever
[roscoe]: it is and you can now sell a bunch more advertisings it's just like it
[roscoe]: grows it for the n h l so the fact that to bean's point like
[roscoe]: it's more on the p a defending the safety of their players and not missing
[roscoe]: time in the h l and their pay checks than it is batman because he
[Darty Brodeur]: yeah
[roscoe]: is somebody that wants
[Darty Brodeur]: yeah
[roscoe]: money
[roscoe]: am i wrong being and that's what your point was
[biehner_]: no no you're you're you're not wrong at all like you you can the team
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: would just be ridiculously stacked it would prove that you know if all these home
[biehner_]: grown us talent players can go and destroy canada in a world which they potentially
[biehner_]: could
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: especially if you look at the canadian goal tending right now which has taken a
[biehner_]: ship for the last
[roscoe]: a
[biehner_]: handful of years
[roscoe]: m
[biehner_]: it would be the perfect opportunity for him to say no
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: arizona needs to stay there because without arizona we wouldn't have matthews and because like
[biehner_]: that'd be his exact line you know it
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: so i don't think it's as much him as we would maybe want it to
[biehner_]: be but to touch on a little bit more and this
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: is my last point on here and then i'll let
[roscoe]: it
[biehner_]: you guys talk a bit more
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: gives a funk about russia i get it they have good players they have some
[biehner_]: of the best players in the league so what do a tournament without him the
[biehner_]: world stage for hockey right now is so good and the talent pool is so
[biehner_]: deep you can put together a competitive tournament that's not going to be canada destroying
[biehner_]: everybody without russia
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: look at every olympic there's always a latian team that gives every canadian
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: fan
[roscoe]: kay
[biehner_]: a heart attack every tournament
[biehner_]: oh
[roscoe]: okay just because i brought it up with the states um do you guys want
[roscoe]: to take a stab at who the best active canadian goals in the league are
[roscoe]: see
[biehner_]: look
[roscoe]: if you can name
[biehner_]: imson
[roscoe]: logan thompson is number two with a nine eight team and basically number one because
[roscoe]: number one nobody's ever going to guess this is dillon wells who played twenty minutes
[roscoe]: for the chicago black hawks and has a nine twenty three
[biehner_]: okay
[roscoe]: he led
[biehner_]: that
[roscoe]: in one
[biehner_]: doesn't
[roscoe]: goal
[biehner_]: count
[roscoe]: that's what i mean so games played here logan thomson and stewart skinner both at
[roscoe]: a nine eighteen at thirty two and twenty two games played if we're looking at
[roscoe]: like actual n h l experience here darcy kemper camp talbot and tristan jarry so
[Darty Brodeur]: aback what happened
[roscoe]: yaks guys yokes huge yokes
[biehner_]: i'd be going
[roscoe]: we got spencer martin spencer martin mark andre flurry james rhymer matt murray jordan bennington
[roscoe]: jakelen brian elliot aden hill carter shart blackwood wedgewood but am bo ingram yeah there's
[roscoe]: nothing good here guys
[biehner_]: i'd be going thompson and hard if it was me
[roscoe]: yeah i would
[roscoe]: carter shart yeah i would go probably oh oh baby logan thompson with
[roscoe]: either murray or yeah buddy i'm all in
[biehner_]: step
[roscoe]: you going to take
[biehner_]: step
[roscoe]: better
[biehner_]: is
[roscoe]: again
[biehner_]: like step is like pulling her hair out hearing you commit to murray that bad
[Darty Brodeur]: but what about beer do you say benner
[roscoe]: she'd be putting jack campbell on team us so i don't really care
[biehner_]: uh
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: uh
[roscoe]: yeah because i mean he has the experience at least at the team canada level
[roscoe]: does he not
[biehner_]: there's no way i'm putting bennington on that team
[roscoe]: i just want to see it's yeah okay but this is my point guys if
[roscoe]: this is where we're at like logan thompson was our
[Darty Brodeur]: blackwood
[roscoe]: number one
[Darty Brodeur]: not
[roscoe]: pick
[Darty Brodeur]: canadian
[roscoe]: to go and
[Darty Brodeur]: i
[roscoe]: net
[Darty Brodeur]: feel
[roscoe]: that
[Darty Brodeur]: like
[roscoe]: dudes
[Darty Brodeur]: he
[roscoe]: played
[Darty Brodeur]: might squeak
[roscoe]: thirty two
[Darty Brodeur]: in if he was
[roscoe]: h l
[Darty Brodeur]: having
[roscoe]: games
[Darty Brodeur]: if he didn't get injured last season
[roscoe]: like
[roscoe]: yeah he's he's there he's got a nine nine seven and two ninety three on
[roscoe]: his career hundred and thirty seven games played so
[biehner_]: i think it would be something
[roscoe]: m
[biehner_]: something like
[roscoe]: m
[biehner_]: thompson in heart so you have your your hot hand with thompson right now you
[biehner_]: have your
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: international success because carter heart has played well at every international level and then i
[biehner_]: think third or they bring the flower just as you know you don't expect him
[biehner_]: to play all tournament yet he's been there you don't expect
[Darty Brodeur]: just
[biehner_]: him
[Darty Brodeur]: like
[biehner_]: to
[Darty Brodeur]: when
[biehner_]: play
[Darty Brodeur]: they
[biehner_]: all
[Darty Brodeur]: brought
[biehner_]: tournament
[Darty Brodeur]: broder
[biehner_]: but if
[Darty Brodeur]: on
[biehner_]: he
[Darty Brodeur]: the
[biehner_]: has
[Darty Brodeur]: taxi
[biehner_]: to come
[Darty Brodeur]: squad
[biehner_]: in and play a game here or there he's goin t be able to step
[biehner_]: up and do it m
[roscoe]: yeah yeah i think honestly the defensive talent that canada has would be able to
[roscoe]: defend whoever they put in net like i think they've got enough there they're old
[roscoe]: mind you but um yeah i don't i don't yeah it's just the states have
[roscoe]: hell a buck but really none of this matters this is the point none of
[roscoe]: this fucking matters because this tournament is not happening and god knows when it will
[roscoe]: because this has just been impossible so the point is yeah
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: as
[roscoe]: okay that's actually an interesting question so this year obviously i would take crosby but
[roscoe]: like when do you stop taking him if
[biehner_]: when
[roscoe]: we
[biehner_]: he
[roscoe]: were
[biehner_]: stops
[roscoe]: doing
[biehner_]: playing
[biehner_]: but
[roscoe]: so then
[biehner_]: that being said sorry for stepping on your toes there as much as
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: sorry like as much as we're romanticizing it
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: if you think about it there's no way in
[roscoe]: yeah
[biehner_]: hell they play on the same line they'd be out there for a power
[roscoe]: no
[biehner_]: play and that's it played
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: like way to different styles of game
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: like mc david would probably more so be on the line with mckhennan which would
[biehner_]: be absolutely disgusting to watch yeah
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: m
[roscoe]: m
[biehner_]: hm
[roscoe]: and really at the end of the day what this means the most for is
[roscoe]: growing the viewership of the game which is what's falling behind look i turned it's
[roscoe]: saturday night it's hawke night in canada when i turned on my bell five t
[roscoe]: it tells you like it has suggestions of what's trending to watch right now the
[roscoe]: rafters game was ahead of the leaf game in trending on hawkeynet in canada saturday
[roscoe]: night like this is guys like come on you got to get this ship going
[roscoe]: again you're
[Darty Brodeur]: we
[roscoe]: falling behind i don't want to be fourth rate professional sport here and honestly
[biehner_]: m
[roscoe]: with the world cup going on this weekend it just
[Darty Brodeur]: yeah
[roscoe]: it really highlights how much hawke
[Darty Brodeur]: and
[roscoe]: has
[Darty Brodeur]: especially
[roscoe]: fallen behind
[Darty Brodeur]: with a beerless world cup
[roscoe]: like
[Darty Brodeur]: right now you guys see
[roscoe]: football
[Darty Brodeur]: that like
[roscoe]: starting
[Darty Brodeur]: this is a perfect
[roscoe]: up it's
[Darty Brodeur]: opportunity
[roscoe]: just
[Darty Brodeur]: for the n hell
[roscoe]: annoying
[Darty Brodeur]: to put their you know send their guys out there and you know maybe get
[Darty Brodeur]: some some highlights get some some spot like but of course like you know i
[Darty Brodeur]: said the h l p which really doesn't give a funk about the players like
[Darty Brodeur]: deep down right these guys have been screwing the players more often than not and
[Darty Brodeur]: the n h l like
[roscoe]: yeah
[Darty Brodeur]: i don't i just these guys all need to give her a head to shake
[Darty Brodeur]: because this leak i be goin become
[roscoe]: okay
[Darty Brodeur]: like micky mouse in the great words of the great one all right so you
[Darty Brodeur]: heard here from darte first like give your head a shake and figure this out
[Darty Brodeur]: because all you old heads out there you need to do you need to you
[Darty Brodeur]: guys funk little guys you did not pay it forward to the young guys coming
[Darty Brodeur]: in and it's showing you need to give your heads a shake and start thinking
[Darty Brodeur]: about the future because there will be no messes and grass s and prongers in
[Darty Brodeur]: the future if you guys keep playing this mickey mouse league trap all right
[biehner_]: m
[roscoe]: damn mike drop all right i think we're going to sign off there anybody want
[roscoe]: to tip it off before we do now good cool thanks everybody
[biehner_]: m
[roscoe]: remember to give us like and follow and if you're on youtube toss of subscribes
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[roscoe]: or not
[biehner_]: m
[roscoe]: some of them will have video and will just be audio but it will be
[roscoe]: on youtube none the less so if you want to find it there it will
[roscoe]: now be there all the time thanks so much for all your support we'll see
[roscoe]: who monday tuesday whatever the game is monday tuesday
[biehner_]: monday
[roscoe]: i think it's monday
[Darty Brodeur]: daddy elan free luke man
[roscoe]: oh
[biehner_]: we love you already