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You're listening to The Bible Guys,
a podcast where a couple of friends talk

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about the Bible in fun, in
practical ways. Hey, everybody, welcome

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to the Bible Guys. I'm Chris. This is Jeff, and today we

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have an exciting episode for you.
Oh, it's going to be the most

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exciting episode of the week. We
have no idea what we're talking about,

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but we definitely we both love this
segment. I'm going to guess it's going

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to be in Deuteronomy. Yes,
we are definitely in Deuteronomy still. But

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before we get to that, we
have a segment by Desiree that we both

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love called would rather? Yes?
Would you rather? Did you ever read

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the book with when you were a
youth? Pastor did you ever use the

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book? Would give you that with
your kids? Should? I have a

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little book on my shelf even now
still by Doug Fields, and it's would

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you rather? Questions? And there's
like four hundred questions, And so what

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I would do is I would literally
just grab the book as an icebreaker,

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open it up. I should do
this now today still fund be saying thing

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like okay, everybody, and I'd
ask some person, I'd say, okay,

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billy in the front row, would
you rather burn to death or freeze

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to death? And he'd have to
do thumbs up or thumbs down, right,

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or he'd have to pick one,
and the whole crowd would vote with

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them or against okay, with her
against okay? Well, hey, here's

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one yep. Would you rather have
the ability to talk to animals but they

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only complain or be able to fly
but only a few inches off the ground.

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There is no question in my mind, which is because I can't stand

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complaining from anything anybody. So why
would you invite a lifetime of complaining from

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your cat? Just you know,
your cat looks like she's complaining all the

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time, right right, And by
the way, such an idiot imagine this.

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Imagine like you're now all of a
sudden aware of all the complaints of

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animals and you have to fight for
them on their behalf because that's what they're

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going to be asking you to do. And then you're going to have to

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try to build the camera hunter.
So I've got an answer to this complaining

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boom, But all the answer all
the answer like could listen, would you

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please, could you please just help
us out here? Right? And you're

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like I don't know where to begin
to help you. That would be your

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life. I would be like quick
complaining, you're going to turn you into

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sausage to the not to the answer. Okay, yeah, probably not.

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Yeah all right. Number two?
Would you rather have your life narrated by

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Morgan Freeman or by a cartoon character
of your choice? Oh? Morgan Freeman?

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Well yeah sure, Well that's almost
like it's like it's like, let

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me give you the number one choice
or a goofy choice. Right, Although

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if you did have a cartoon character
narrate your voice, who would it be?

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Oh? Wow? I mean it
would have to be some sort of

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an epic like Double O seven times. I think for you, I can

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envision Bart Simpson being the one that
narrates your entire life. Bart Simpson has

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an irritating voice. Yeah, but
he's kind of sassy and okay, he's

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going to make up for your You'd
have to have a cool voice that you

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want to listen to. Isn't that
the point? No, I'm choosing of

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the bo I was choosing for you, so not for me. Okay,

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well, then I'm going to choose
the uh no, you're gonna have man,

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No, I was gonna choose uh
the Australian guy Steve Irwin st Yeah,

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yeah, is he a cartoon character? Oh? Oh, I see,

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I see? Well okay, anyways, yeah, this is too much

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time. Would you rather have a
permanently itchy nose or a permanently ticklish foot.

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I'd have to go with foot,
I guess, because you can itch

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it without drawing attention to it.
But it sounds like what you're because tickling

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is kind of the same thing,
right, because you're ticklish foot nose,

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well, tickler's foot you'd have to
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or a hard one. They both
seem miserable to me. Well, yeah,

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I mean this is like eternal torture. So which one did you choose?

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I choose the foot, I guess. Okay, I think I would

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choose foot too. Yeah, people
are looking at your nose. Number four.

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Would you rather live in a world
where you have to dance everywhere you

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go? Or sing everything? You
say? That is your world? Both

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of those things? No, it's
not. Yeah, you like to sing

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and dance. I just don't.
Actually the Pirates of Penzance, I actually

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don't know how to dance that well, but I wish I did. I

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dance worse than you do. You
I have proven that. But I'll tell

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you what. I shot a dance
video for crying out loud. That's true,

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and they pretty much all the videos
of me chest high. Yes,

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yes, but I would definitely say
between the two, Oh my word,

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those are both awful. Just sing
everything you say. I'd have to sing,

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I guess if it was. If
it was, because dancing would be

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so distracting, nobody would want to
look at you, right, but you

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wouldn't be able to preach singing.
I'll tell you what, you be in

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better shape if you danced at where
you went, you would. Yep,

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you have a you have. You'd
be physically fit. That's for darn sure.

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All right, last one, go
for it? Okay. Would you

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rather be a character in your favorite
TV show? Me? Yes please?

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Or be able to bring your favorite
TV character into real life? Oh?

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She is? First of all,
I'm having a hard time thinking of who

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my favorite TV character is. Yes, magnum p I, magnum p I.

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That's funny, but you're going you're
going deep on that way. I

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honestly would rather be a character in
my favorite TV show? Would you I

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would, yeah, because the excitement
of that thought is better than the excitement

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of like Magni peing and magnim p
i being real. Who would be?

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Oh? I don't know what character
that would be? But which TV show?

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That's the more important question. So
would you rather be a character in

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your favorite So it's specifically your favorite
TV show has to be determined first,

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which would you rather? I would
pick Big Bang Theory, Big Bank Theory.

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And who would you want to be? Well, I'd have to be

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my own character. I couldn't replace
a character. No, it's a character

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in your TV show. Oh you
so you're reading this like you get to

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be in your favorite TV show?
Yes, like I'm a I think she's

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asking would you want to be one
of the characters in your favorite TV show?

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Like replace somebody? Well? Why
would I want to be somebody else

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other than me? I don't know. But then therefore I'd have to choose

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the second one because the first one
now is a terrible option. Okay,

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okay, would you rather not be
you? Right? Or live around somebody

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who's your favorite? That's correct?
Oh, that's that's not a good question.

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I think it's my thing. I
think it's would you rather be a

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would you rather be you in your
favorite team? Right? We did one

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similar to this a while back,
and I think I chose to be a

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Hannibal Lecter. Oh no, not
Hannibal elector Hannibal from eighteen Okay. I

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was like, raw, wrong,
Hannibal, I'm going to eat your liver

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with a nice kyantes. I was
like, wow, bro, bro,

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that is that is a really weird
choice. I said that, Jeeze,

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that is a massive mistake. Wrong
one. No, I meant to say

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Hannibal from the eighteen Yes, yes, remember I think I went on the

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record of saying that that if I
can, Yeah, I think so.

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The eteam Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well I'll tell you what are youselves

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from this? Yeah, let's rescue
ourselves. Let's go into Deuteronomy chapter twenty

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one. So we've already talked about
as a transition. I don't even know

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that there is a good transition.
There is not. Because I was I

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was like, I didn't want to
react. I was like, I was

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like, I don't know what you're
saying right now, because that is terrible.

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I want to be a serial killer. That's a that's terrible, terrible.

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Sorry about that. Cannibal Freudian slip
she wits wow. Okay, So

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anyways, we have talked about the
laws of God, the laws of God.

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We've talked about the levitical laws.
We've talked about the fundamental laws about

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loving God and loving people. But
then what we haven't talked about at all

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through all these is all the social
laws God set up. So Leviticus was

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primarily it's what we call the levitical
law. Those were the laws about the

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worship of God and about sacrifices and
all those things. Then a chunk of

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Exodus, a chunk of numbers,
and then a good chunk of Deuteronomy is

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establishing socially how the law was supposed
to go. Now that's different from how

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you your laws for your nation are
supposed to go versus the laws of the

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nation of Israel. There was no
king right for the laws of the nation

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of Israel. So God established those
laws. Here's all the consequences, all

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the rules, all the guidelines,
and so I just think it's interesting to

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look at how detailed God God with
all the different laws. And so we're

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going to read Deuteronomy chapter twenty one. Start off with the verse. What

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is it twenty two. Let's do
it, yeah, He says. If

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someone has committed a crime worthy of
death and is executed and hung on a

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tree, the body must not remain
hanging from the tree overnight. He must

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bury the body that same day.
For anyone who has hung as cursed in

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the sight of God, In this
way you will prevent the defilement of the

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land the Lord your God has given
you as your special possession. If you

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see your neighbor's ox, or sheep
or goat wandering away, don't ignore your

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responsibility. Take it back to its
owner. If its owner does not live

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nearby, or you don't know who
the owner is, take it to your

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place and keep it until the owner
comes looking for it. Then you must

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return it. Do the same.
If you find your neighbor's donkey, clothing,

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or anything else your neighbor loses,
don't ignore your responsibility. If you

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see that your neighbor's donkey or ox
has collapsed on the road, to not

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look the other way, go and
help your neighbor get it back on its

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feet. A woman must not put
on men's clothing, and a man must

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not wear women's clothing. Any One
who does this is detestable in the side

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of the Lord your God. If
you happen to find a bird's nest in

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a tree or on the ground,
and there are young ones or eggs in

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it, with the mother sitting on
the nest, to not take the mother

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with the young. Must take the
young, but let the mother go,

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so that you may prosper and enjoy
a long life. When you build a

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new house, you must build a
railing around the edge of its flat roof.

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That way you will not be considered
guilty of a murder if someone falls

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from the roof. Must not plant
any other crop between the rows of your

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vineyard. If you do, you're
forbidden to use either the grapes from the

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vineyard or the other crop. Must
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harness together. Must not wear clothing
made of wool and linen woven together.

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You must put four tassels on the
hem of the cloak which you cover yourself,

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on the front, back, and
on the sides. And he just

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goes on man. He talks about
marriage, He talks about money, he

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talks about loaning things, He talks
about workers, he talks about servants,

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He talks about planting. He talks
about it fields, he talks about water.

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He talks at one point about what
to do with our waist is one

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of the funniest verses in the Bible. Just a couple chapters after this,

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he goes, if you got to
do your business, he says, go

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outside the camp, big a little
hole, do your business, and then

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cover it over right, that's ways. And then the very next verse says,

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because I the Lord your God walk
among you in the camp. That's

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hilarious. It's just funny. It's
hysterically funny verse. But God tells the

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people of Israel what to do about
it. Your clothes, what you can

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and can't wear, the fabrics,
how to treat your neighbors animals and lost

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stuff, and build railings around the
roof of your house. He covers everything.

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Yeah, and by the way,
uh, I remember one time you

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even told me this, and I
remember hearing your explanation that particular verse about

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burying your waist. Ye, back
then, they would have never known the

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medical benefits from that, right,
which goes to show you, like it's

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almost further evidence that the Bible is
from God and it's not from man.

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Right, So would you want to
just have a little fun and explain why

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what that means. Well, it's
consistent with the first verse. So he

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said, hey, if somebody has
to be executed, marry them today,

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right right, same reason you said, because you don't want to defile your

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land. And they would have thought
it's just it's defiling because this criminal.

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But it's not. It's rotting.
Bodies are bad for the water, they're

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bad for everything. So in that
case of you know, if we had

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read the other verses about what to
do with regard to your waste, for

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this was written in two thousand years
before Jesus. This is four thousand years

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old, right almost, and they
wouldn't have understood if God had said,

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hey, listen, there's bacteria in
human waste. It's going to make you

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sick. You're going to get equal
eye, you're going to get whatever,

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and it makes you sick. It's
going to kill you if you're not careful.

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He doesn't explain the idea of germs. He doesn't explain the idea of

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bacteria that they can't see. He
doesn't explain the fact that there are organisms

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in the top soil that neutralizes human
waste within about thirty six hours. In

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the top eight or nine inches.
We didn't even discover that until the middle

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of the twentieth century, right,
And so what's happened is around the world

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where people just went on the ground
and didn't cover where animals just go on

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the ground. Now equal e in
our ponds and in our rivers and lakes

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is usually caused by either raccoons or
Canadian geese, right, And we just

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didn't know. We didn't know what
was caused by And so what happened is

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people didn't obey, and water was
polluted all around the world, and more

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people died from water than almost any
bad water than almost anything else in the

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world even today. And so what
was happening for the Jewish people like back

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here in the Middle Ages. It's
one of the reasons why Europe hated the

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Jews so much is they seemed to
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in the plagues or whether it was
in other things. But they didn't they

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manage their waste in their parts of
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was just in Venice the other day
in the very first ghetto. Do you

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know where the word ghetto comes from? It comes from the word ghetto was

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was where the Jews were allowed to
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where a copper furnace was and it
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It's really interesting. So but they
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It was because they managed their waste
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of rats, right, So it
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And that's where that word spread throughout
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word ghetto came from this copper furnace
concept is where they lived. Well,

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I would have guessed the word grotto
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the word ghetto came from yeah.
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lived there, but it was it
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people of Europe believed that maybe they
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some way, because they lived when
everybod else was dying from the plague.

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They didn't hardly some did, but
not many. And it was because they

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didn't allow rats. Is because they
kept cats. Well, that's where the

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cats came from, right right in
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and it was because God says,
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God says, keep waste out of
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away, don't allow it. Everybody
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It's in the streets, and they
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But not the Jews. And so
what happened was the people did not

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understand all the rules why God made
the rules. They didn't understand bacteria,

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they didn't understand germs, they didn't
understand any of those things. But God

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said, if you do these things, you live, and if you don't

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do these things, you'll die.
So the laws of nature, this is

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a continuation of our conversation from yesterday. The laws of nature are God's consequences

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for living the wrong way. Now, on occasion, he intervenes supernaturally.

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Right, that's a miracle, is
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the time. If you you know, I came home with a disease a

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while back, I was overseas and
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other and came home sick from it. That doesn't have to be necessarily God's

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overt supernatural curse on me. Sure
it was that I broke a law of

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nature and there's a consequence to that. Right, Well, you didn't somebody

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did? Yeah? How yes,
something I consume something where the law of

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nature's nature is broken. So and
I'm still sick from it. By the

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way, you're not in any danger. But yeah. So the these laws

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that God puts up puts out there, we may not always understand them,

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right, we might not understand Hey, how come he says, don't take

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the eggs just or go ahead and
take the eggs, don't take the mom

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right, Well, if you take
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more eggs. That's why, right, right? Why why do I have

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to build a railing? It's not
a God's business what I put around the

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roof of my house. And God
saying, listen, somebody's gonna die.

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And then when somebody dies, there's
a consequence for your family. So just

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put a railing around. There's no
problem. Right. He has an answer

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for every single thing. We don't
always necessarily understand why. But God is

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right every time. Right, every
time he's right, I guess what he's

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right. So even when I can't
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or the morality of God. My
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So I have to come to this
place where I go, Okay,

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He's right, and if I don't
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remember where I talked about childlike faith
and U and I say, you know,

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even in terms of our salvation,
in our own intellect, we try

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to reason and understand when God says, if you just trust me and put

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your faith in me, you don't
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in trust in Me right in this
in the sacrifice of Christ in that case.

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Hey, another thing that stands out
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that there's so many applications to the
statement, uh, doing to others that

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you would you would have them do
for you. Oh yeah, especially for

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people who lose things or whatever.
Yeah. Yeah, So I mean there's

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there's you know, a consequence.
There's there they talk about sheep, they

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talk about uh, donk neighbors,
donkey and ocs collapsing for assistance, you

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know, go back and help them. Uh. And so it's it's the

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idea that you know, Jesus later
on just says, you know, treat

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others the way that you would have
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way that you love yourself. And
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as you said, because there was
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you know, and basically explaining to
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here's how you should act, here's
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I love that because, uh,
you know again you and I we uh,

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this is a challenge for us every
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know, hurting and then uh,
you know, we we don't back up,

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and we don't go help our neighbors. Right. I calls it our

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responsibility, right, right, he
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responsibility because you're the one witnessing the
sheep going astray. And he says a

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couple of times, don't ignore your
responsibility, right, So so he's driving

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that idea home. God says something
one time, you know, I think

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he means it. He says it
two or three times. You probably got

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a yeah, I think he really
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reminds me of that when I stopped
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snow. Yeah, remember that.
I think I told it. But the

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idea is like, I I got
you, I got in my car,

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I was in the snow. I
literally my clothes were soaking wet, and

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I used all my strength and pushed
her out of the snow. And instead

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of even stopping and waving, she
just pulled away. She was so relieved

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rescued her. I was like,
you've got to be kidding me. Yeah,

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this was one of your what made
Chris Manns this week? Yes,

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And I was just actually thinking to
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the reason why people don't stop and
help people. Right, So it's interesting

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he affirms the idea that there are
crimes that are worthy of death is that

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that's always a surprise to people.
So where you and I are forbidden from

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executing this is a government rule,
right and where that's why he says,

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So there are you know, if
if you murder, then your life

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is supposed to be taken. Those
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He talks about possession, He talks
about if you go further he talks about

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sexual issues in society. Yeah,
puriody, yep. He talks about elations

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for worship, He talks about immigration, He talks about harvest, He talks

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about tithes. He talks about the
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years. Right, rotate your crops, rotate your crops. Are you serious?

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We didn't even realize we needed the
road to hate our crops until a

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couple hundred years ago. Right,
Right, But he's talking about this four

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thousand years ago, and it's the
incredible detail. He doesn't explain it.

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He talks about leaving extras in the
field for the poor. Right, hey,

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be a generous Society's trying to tell
them from the very beginning. Listen,

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you don't have to go to the
very corner when you're harvesting. You

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can go ahead and leave a little
bit for the other people. If you

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drop a bunch of grapes, go
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something on a vine, that's okay, Let the poor people have them.

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He's using this as God's given you
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you. He goes on and he
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your society. These were the laws
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who had no king, right right. A Book of Romans, chapter fourteen

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tells us we're supposed to obey the
laws of our culture, right right,

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so, which sometimes you know that
is challenging. We if the speed limit

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says twenty five, and it is
in my mind radically unreasonable for that stretch

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of road to be twenty five,
right, Or sometimes like when I go

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to Youngstown, Ohio, which is
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freeway is fifty five wow, and
so Ohio. Right, so you just

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slow down, you know, so
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that's right next to us right here. You know, even even ones that

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aren't like main freeways are like seventy
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sixty nine, Am I sixty nine? That goes past my mom and dad?

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Of them, it is seventy five
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Yes, So it's like, but
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five. Well, my father visited
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come up to Missigan very often.
But I was actually going I think the

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speed lim was seventy and I think
I was going like seventy five, right,

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and again obey the laws of land. Do I believe that that was

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wrong? Yes? Do I fall
short and sin all the time? Yeah,

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I do so. But again I
would just justify my own little mind

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by saying, if had I not
going seventy five, I wouldn't be able

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to keeping up with people around me, right, so would have dangerous.

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But I'm going seventy. Yeah,
so I'm going said, yeah, yeah,

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that's right. You have to be
willing to pay the price, that's

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right. Right. So, so
a social thing like this, you're not

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going to hell for it, right. Social thing like this is you better

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be ready to pay the price.
Right, And there's social consequences. He

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writes those two in here. So
if you're willing to pay the ticket,

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right, if a police officer pulls
me over, it's my fault. Yep,

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that's right. So I've always understood
that the reason why they drive fifty

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five two things. One they drive
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I knew. The other one's I've
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How many of the road signs are
written in crayon? Those those two

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things are just wow. Those are
so good. They're really good. Those

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are really That's why you keep on
using them over and over. It doesn't

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matter how many times I've heard you
say that funny. The crayon things are

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really funny. We'll talk slower so
I understand, I'll slow down. Yeah.

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that my father comes up and he

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sees me driving seventy five and he
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Ah would slow down, slow down. He he spent his whole life probably

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going like forty five when it's fifty
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anyway, it's funny. But but
the laws of the land are there,

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and we are commanded to obey the
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way that we are to disobey the

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laws of the land are if they
conflict with the laws of God. That's

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right. Right, if there was
a decree that came out that said we

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were not allowed to publicly worship or
you know, like like Daniel, right,

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like Daniel, you know, the
only thing that you should ever bow

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down to is the statute of Nebukadnezzar, you know, And then Daniel's like,

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yeah, no, that's not going
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with the three Hebrew children, right, yeah. So for us, what

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we have to be careful of is
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a vote. We are unique in
human history in this in this way that

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we are Caesar right, and so
we we have to use our votes.

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those that represent us, all those
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But at the same time, I
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laws of the land are my morality
right. Our government does not is not

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an arbiter of what is moral right. Our government has only determined what is

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legal, and just because it's legal
doesn't make it moral right. And if

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they decide that they're going to outlaw
a thing that God says we should do,

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again, they cannot make a thing
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immoral right right. And so we
have to have a strong voice, we

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have to speak up, we have
to participate in our process. But then

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we also have to determine the fact
that just because the thing is is legal,

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doesn't make it moral just because the
outlaw thing doesn't make it immoral.

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That is, God is the is
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That is a massive distinction that people
probably don't take the time to separate

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or different differentiate, you know,
which is awesome. Hey, well that's

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just about our time, so we
will see you next time, hopefully on

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the bibble guys. M m hmmm
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