WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:02.359 Well, today God's going to be the judge. 2 00:00:02.919 --> 00:00:04.919 Yeah, this is a big one. There's good news in 3 00:00:04.960 --> 00:00:07.360 the middle of the bad news. But judgment's coming. And 4 00:00:07.400 --> 00:00:09.439 so he's Chris and I'm Jeff, and we're the Bible guys. 5 00:00:21.039 --> 00:00:23.440 So we know that you're not only a movie buff, 6 00:00:23.480 --> 00:00:25.160 you're a big music person. 7 00:00:25.320 --> 00:00:26.120 Yeah. I like music. 8 00:00:26.160 --> 00:00:27.519 And who's your favorite singer? 9 00:00:28.399 --> 00:00:30.920 A favorite singer good gravy. I don't know. 10 00:00:31.160 --> 00:00:33.560 I can't even the one that everybody'd be most surprised 11 00:00:33.560 --> 00:00:34.719 as one of your favorite singers. 12 00:00:34.920 --> 00:00:38.119 Oh, well, that's an entirely different question. Well, for the 13 00:00:38.119 --> 00:00:41.920 fall kickoff at our church, huh, we were creating trivia, 14 00:00:42.039 --> 00:00:44.280 uh huh, And it was it was a race between 15 00:00:44.320 --> 00:00:47.200 me and you, and we said, who listens to Taylor 16 00:00:47.240 --> 00:00:48.000 Swift in the car? 17 00:00:48.079 --> 00:00:48.520 That's right? 18 00:00:48.719 --> 00:00:52.840 And nobody knew how to vote. Yeah, and it's like, Chris, yeah, 19 00:00:52.840 --> 00:00:53.240 that's right. 20 00:00:53.320 --> 00:00:56.200 I'm not sure that I know the lyrics to a 21 00:00:56.240 --> 00:00:58.799 Taylor Swift song. So I recognize her voice when she 22 00:00:58.880 --> 00:01:01.280 sings stuff like that, right, my daughter for little while 23 00:01:01.280 --> 00:01:03.280 listen to Taylor, But I don't know like any lyrics 24 00:01:03.320 --> 00:01:04.200 from Taylor Swift. 25 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:08.439 You know some, right, Well, there's only fifty million. 26 00:01:08.640 --> 00:01:10.439 Yeah, but you know all of them, don't you. 27 00:01:10.480 --> 00:01:12.200 No, I know the popular ones. 28 00:01:12.239 --> 00:01:14.920 Well, we're going to find out. So, and then you've 29 00:01:14.920 --> 00:01:17.200 memorized the Book of Lamentations in the Bible. 30 00:01:16.920 --> 00:01:17.799 Right I have not? 31 00:01:18.040 --> 00:01:20.599 You have not, Yes, I confess. So here's what I 32 00:01:20.680 --> 00:01:22.760 decided to do is we're going to why I didn't. 33 00:01:22.879 --> 00:01:24.760 I think Desiree did, but I'm going to take credit 34 00:01:24.840 --> 00:01:28.239 for it. Thanks Desiree. We decided we're going to read 35 00:01:28.359 --> 00:01:31.319 lyrics either from a Taylor Swift song or from the 36 00:01:31.359 --> 00:01:33.840 Book of Lamentation. So you have to tell me Taylor 37 00:01:33.879 --> 00:01:34.879 Swift or Lamentations. 38 00:01:34.879 --> 00:01:36.840 Okay, So, just to server knows, we saw this like 39 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:40.519 two seconds ago, and he decided to read it to 40 00:01:40.599 --> 00:01:42.200 me because I know some Taylor Swifts. 41 00:01:42.239 --> 00:01:44.680 I don't know any Taylor Swift songs. All right, go ahead, Okay, 42 00:01:44.680 --> 00:01:45.200 are you ready? 43 00:01:45.239 --> 00:01:45.480 Yep? 44 00:01:45.760 --> 00:01:49.319 Okay. So it says I remember it all the feeling 45 00:01:49.359 --> 00:01:50.159 of hitting bottom. 46 00:01:51.879 --> 00:01:57.439 I remember it all the feeling of hitting bottom. Gosh, 47 00:01:57.439 --> 00:02:02.560 that could be it, that could be It doesn't sound 48 00:02:02.599 --> 00:02:06.480 sophisticated enough to be Taylor Swift. I'm gonna say lamentations. 49 00:02:06.480 --> 00:02:08.840 Oh wow, yeah, yeah, you're the Bible guy. Hey, you 50 00:02:08.879 --> 00:02:11.520 are the Bible guy. Your instincts are good. Lamentations three 51 00:02:11.560 --> 00:02:17.800 twenty Okay, how about this one? Walls of insincerity, shifting eyes, 52 00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:20.080 and vacancy vanished when I saw your face. 53 00:02:20.520 --> 00:02:23.439 Yeah, that's uh, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. 54 00:02:25.479 --> 00:02:26.400 Enchanted to meet you? 55 00:02:27.120 --> 00:02:28.120 Okay, it's enchanted. 56 00:02:28.199 --> 00:02:30.919 Yes, yes, that's what the song is called. Enchanted. Okay, Yeah, 57 00:02:30.919 --> 00:02:33.439 it's like right, it's like the it's like the second 58 00:02:33.520 --> 00:02:34.199 line of the song. 59 00:02:34.639 --> 00:02:39.360 Yep, we've been to Helen back, we have nowhere to turn, 60 00:02:39.479 --> 00:02:40.080 nowhere to go. 61 00:02:42.080 --> 00:02:44.240 That definitely sounds like lamentations. 62 00:02:44.439 --> 00:02:53.840 That is Lamentations three forty seven. Yes, Uh, did you 63 00:02:53.919 --> 00:02:56.639 have to do this? I was thinking you could be trusted. 64 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:02.639 I can't even imagine that being in lamentations because that's 65 00:03:02.680 --> 00:03:07.360 a direct conversation. So I'm gonna go with Taylor. 66 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:08.840 Swift and want to guess a song. 67 00:03:13.240 --> 00:03:16.280 I don't know. I don't have no idea. Bad Blood, Oh, 68 00:03:16.319 --> 00:03:20.879 bad blood? You know that song? Right now? We got 69 00:03:21.039 --> 00:03:22.039 bad Blood? 70 00:03:23.719 --> 00:03:26.879 Yeah kind of kind of yes, yeah, you know that song. 71 00:03:27.159 --> 00:03:35.919 And we'll sing Hallelujah. We'll sing Hallelujah. Lamentations change by 72 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:36.680 Taylor Swift. 73 00:03:37.039 --> 00:03:43.000 Oh wow, Okay, that was that was tricky. 74 00:03:43.719 --> 00:03:45.400 I've forgotten what the good life is like. 75 00:03:47.919 --> 00:03:50.719 I've forgotten what the good life is like. I'll say Taylor. 76 00:03:50.439 --> 00:03:55.159 Swift Lamentations three seventeen. So I went three for three, 77 00:03:55.639 --> 00:03:57.560 three for five. Yeah, yeah, I went. 78 00:03:57.479 --> 00:04:00.280 Three for three, and then I went over to Yeah. 79 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:03.560 Yeah, that's great. That's a fun one. That's fun, very clever. 80 00:04:03.639 --> 00:04:05.599 Thank you Desiree for coming up with that one. That's 81 00:04:05.599 --> 00:04:09.199 a fun one to do. Uh yeah. And I could 82 00:04:09.240 --> 00:04:11.879 see the wheels working too. It's just a little smoky 83 00:04:11.879 --> 00:04:14.800 in the in the studio now, I mean. 84 00:04:14.759 --> 00:04:18.480 All all you quoted was I sing hallelujah. 85 00:04:18.560 --> 00:04:20.199 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I skipped most of the rest of it. 86 00:04:20.240 --> 00:04:21.600 She gave me a whole sentence. I didn't read it. 87 00:04:21.639 --> 00:04:22.399 I just read that part. 88 00:04:23.240 --> 00:04:25.639 Oh that's because you thought you was gonna give away 89 00:04:26.439 --> 00:04:27.759 now that the truth comes out. 90 00:04:28.639 --> 00:04:31.399 Okay, So Desiree was kind, and she was she was 91 00:04:31.399 --> 00:04:34.519 more accommodating than I am. But hey, don't mess with 92 00:04:34.519 --> 00:04:36.040 the guy at the microphone. That's true. 93 00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:37.120 That's true. 94 00:04:37.160 --> 00:04:39.920 Okay. So hey, now he's going to really put it 95 00:04:39.920 --> 00:04:42.199 out there for us. So sure, we got a laundry 96 00:04:42.199 --> 00:04:45.439 list of sinful things that are are horrible that have 97 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:49.560 eternal consequences and are the result of us rejecting our creator. Right, 98 00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:51.959 So sure he already gave that. But then you got 99 00:04:51.959 --> 00:04:54.759 to remember there are no chapters and verses in Paul's letters. 100 00:04:54.839 --> 00:04:56.839 He doesn't start and then stop, and start and stop. 101 00:04:56.879 --> 00:04:59.920 This is all just one big long thought. So where 102 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:03.279 he ends that big long list yesterday, he continues with 103 00:05:03.759 --> 00:05:06.680 you may think that you can condemn such people, but 104 00:05:06.759 --> 00:05:08.959 you're just as bad. So this is Romans chapter two, 105 00:05:09.079 --> 00:05:12.720 Verse one. You may think that you condemn such people, 106 00:05:12.800 --> 00:05:14.439 but you are just as bad, and you have no 107 00:05:14.519 --> 00:05:17.439 excuse when you say they are wicked and should be punished. 108 00:05:17.480 --> 00:05:20.720 You're only condemning yourself, For you, who judge others, do 109 00:05:20.879 --> 00:05:23.959 these very same things. And we know that God, in 110 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:27.079 his justice, will punish anyone who does such things. Since 111 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:29.160 you judge others for doing these things, why do you 112 00:05:29.160 --> 00:05:31.240 think you can avoid God's judgment when you do the 113 00:05:31.279 --> 00:05:35.240 same things. Don't you see how wonderfully kind, tolerant, and 114 00:05:35.360 --> 00:05:38.319 patient God is with you? Does this mean nothing to you? 115 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:41.079 Can't you see that His kindness is intended to turn 116 00:05:41.120 --> 00:05:43.839 you away from your sin? But because you are stubborn 117 00:05:43.839 --> 00:05:45.600 and refuse to turn from your sin, you're storing up 118 00:05:45.639 --> 00:05:48.680 terrible punishment for yourself. For a day of anger is coming, 119 00:05:48.680 --> 00:05:52.120 when God's righteous judgment will be revealed. He will judge 120 00:05:52.120 --> 00:05:55.199 everyone according to what they've done. He will give eternal 121 00:05:55.240 --> 00:05:57.800 life to those who keep on doing good, seeking after 122 00:05:57.839 --> 00:06:01.160 the glory and honor immortality that God offers. But He 123 00:06:01.240 --> 00:06:03.160 will pour out his anger and wrath on those who 124 00:06:03.240 --> 00:06:05.720 live for themselves, who refuse to obey the truth and 125 00:06:05.759 --> 00:06:08.759 instead live lives of wickedness. There will be trouble and 126 00:06:08.759 --> 00:06:11.319 calamity for everyone who keeps on doing what is evil, 127 00:06:11.519 --> 00:06:13.959 for the Jew first and also for the gentile. But 128 00:06:14.000 --> 00:06:17.279 there will be glory and honor and peace from God 129 00:06:17.399 --> 00:06:19.399 for all who do good, for the Jew first and 130 00:06:19.399 --> 00:06:22.920 also for the gentile. For God does not show favoritism. 131 00:06:23.240 --> 00:06:25.639 When the Gentiles sin, they'll be destroyed, even though they 132 00:06:25.720 --> 00:06:28.399 never had God's written law. And the Jews who do 133 00:06:28.480 --> 00:06:30.519 have God's law will be judged by that law when 134 00:06:30.560 --> 00:06:33.279 they fail to obey it. For merely listening to the 135 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:35.240 law doesn't make us right with God. It's obeying the 136 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:37.720 law that makes us right in his sight. Even gentiles 137 00:06:37.759 --> 00:06:39.600 who do not have God's written law, so that they 138 00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:42.560 know His law when they instinctively obey it, even without 139 00:06:42.639 --> 00:06:45.079 having heard it. They demonstrate that God's laws written in 140 00:06:45.120 --> 00:06:47.800 their hearts for their own conscience and thoughts are either 141 00:06:47.839 --> 00:06:50.079 accuse them or tell them they are doing right. And 142 00:06:50.120 --> 00:06:52.120 this is the message. I proclaim that the day is 143 00:06:52.160 --> 00:06:56.399 coming when God through Christ Jesus will judge everyone's secret life. 144 00:06:57.639 --> 00:07:01.839 I like that last line, when God through Jesus, Christ 145 00:07:01.879 --> 00:07:05.759 will judge everyone's secret life. And so at the very beginning, 146 00:07:05.800 --> 00:07:08.439 we sort of opened up and I said, God's the judge, right. 147 00:07:09.959 --> 00:07:13.160 And so here's how I view this passage is that 148 00:07:13.519 --> 00:07:16.800 what he's trying to say is is really building up 149 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:19.759 to the idea that like, did you ever play Monopoly? 150 00:07:19.839 --> 00:07:20.160 Yes? 151 00:07:20.639 --> 00:07:23.800 So Monopoly is my favorite game. And so there's a 152 00:07:23.839 --> 00:07:26.199 get out of jail free card, and the get out 153 00:07:26.199 --> 00:07:30.759 of jail free card is very similar to Jesus. He 154 00:07:30.839 --> 00:07:34.639 gives us a way to escape sin, to escape a 155 00:07:34.680 --> 00:07:38.360 punishment of sin, and it doesn't cost us anything. It's free. 156 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:41.199 It's a free gift. The Book of Romans, Paul goes 157 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:43.480 on to talk about that being a free gift, and 158 00:07:43.519 --> 00:07:45.160 what he's really trying to say is he's trying to say, 159 00:07:45.560 --> 00:07:48.360 let me talk about what you're escaping from through Jesus, 160 00:07:48.839 --> 00:07:54.079 because without Jesus there is no escape. Because sin has 161 00:07:54.120 --> 00:07:57.240 a judge, and there's a righteous God who is a 162 00:07:57.360 --> 00:08:01.519 righteous judge, and he judges harshly, and he's angry at sin. Right, 163 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:04.439 And by the way, God makes no apology for that. 164 00:08:04.680 --> 00:08:07.600 In the Old Testament, you know, God says, God's a 165 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:12.120 jealous God. Now God's an angry God because he's angry 166 00:08:12.240 --> 00:08:16.439 for our sin. God hates sin, he hates wickedness, he 167 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:20.000 hates all those things. Sin demands a penalty, Sin demand's death. 168 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:24.920 Like there is an absolute judge with a horrific sentence 169 00:08:25.360 --> 00:08:28.399 that every single one of us are guilty of. 170 00:08:28.759 --> 00:08:30.920 And God justly hates sin. 171 00:08:31.040 --> 00:08:31.839 Yeah, just right. 172 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:33.600 So we look at it and go, oh, it was 173 00:08:33.639 --> 00:08:35.679 just a little lie. Oh I stretch the truth. Oh 174 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:37.840 I just disobeyed my parents or whatever. But for God, 175 00:08:38.159 --> 00:08:42.200 God knows the destructiveness of sin. It ruins societies. A 176 00:08:42.240 --> 00:08:44.960 little bit winds up turning into a lot, and that's 177 00:08:44.960 --> 00:08:48.440 what we always do, and it destroys so much as 178 00:08:48.440 --> 00:08:51.279 a cancer. It's like, you know, if somebody broke into 179 00:08:51.279 --> 00:08:53.840 your house and wanted to attack your daughters. You would 180 00:08:53.919 --> 00:08:56.799 hate every part of that behavior, everything about it, right, 181 00:08:57.000 --> 00:08:59.399 And it's not that you're full of hatred, it's you're 182 00:08:59.440 --> 00:09:02.480 full of sin, so much love for your daughters. You 183 00:09:02.679 --> 00:09:06.080 hate what the destruction that that behavior coming towards your 184 00:09:06.159 --> 00:09:08.039 daughters is going to do. And it's the same way 185 00:09:08.039 --> 00:09:10.440 that God views sin. It's not that he's full of hate. 186 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:14.159 He loves us so much and he sees the destruction 187 00:09:14.279 --> 00:09:16.960 coming our way. It's going to destroy everything good in 188 00:09:17.000 --> 00:09:19.399 our life if we let sin get a foothold. And 189 00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:22.480 so that's why he hates sin. And for godly people, 190 00:09:22.519 --> 00:09:24.639 we need to get a similar view. Not that we 191 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:27.720 hate sinners, but we hate the consequence and the fallout 192 00:09:27.759 --> 00:09:30.039 from sin, and so we need to hate it as 193 00:09:30.080 --> 00:09:31.000 much as God hates it. 194 00:09:31.320 --> 00:09:35.039 Yeah. And by the way, that's not even brush past 195 00:09:35.399 --> 00:09:38.799 chapter two, verse number one, because you know, there are 196 00:09:38.799 --> 00:09:41.279 probably a lot of people in our past that we've 197 00:09:41.279 --> 00:09:43.679 seen that get hung up on a lot of issues 198 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:47.639 of chapter of chapter one, and yet in chapter two, 199 00:09:48.120 --> 00:09:50.159 to your point, it's the same thought, right, right, right, 200 00:09:50.240 --> 00:09:54.039 He says, you may think you can contemn such people, 201 00:09:54.120 --> 00:09:56.039 but you're just as bad. And you know, what's so 202 00:09:56.120 --> 00:10:00.039 interesting is that, like you know, so, I've always I 203 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:02.840 heard this. So if you tell one lie, it makes 204 00:10:02.840 --> 00:10:06.240 you a liar liar, And so whether you're a compulsive 205 00:10:06.279 --> 00:10:09.399 liar or whether you've told one small fib you're just 206 00:10:09.440 --> 00:10:12.840 as guilty, because the Bible says breaking some of the 207 00:10:12.960 --> 00:10:14.840 law is like breaking the entire live. 208 00:10:15.039 --> 00:10:16.679 I had a guy asked me one time. He said, well, 209 00:10:17.639 --> 00:10:21.000 he said, have I sinned? Yes? Am I a sinner? No? 210 00:10:21.840 --> 00:10:24.159 And I said, well, let me ask you this. If 211 00:10:24.240 --> 00:10:28.600 you rob a bank, what are you? You're a bank robber? Right? 212 00:10:28.759 --> 00:10:29.960 How many people do you have to kill to be 213 00:10:29.960 --> 00:10:32.200 a murderer? Just one? 214 00:10:32.440 --> 00:10:35.519 Just one? Right, it's the same one. 215 00:10:35.600 --> 00:10:39.279 I've only robbed one bank, I said, So it's the 216 00:10:39.320 --> 00:10:43.000 same there. So it's not we all want to justify ourselves. 217 00:10:43.039 --> 00:10:45.399 We want to make ourselves better. There's other people we 218 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:48.080 know that are worse, but for sure, but we we 219 00:10:48.279 --> 00:10:52.159 hate this idea you're worse than me. Well probably probably, 220 00:10:52.399 --> 00:10:54.960 I'll admit that, because you know, Verse one tells me, 221 00:10:55.000 --> 00:10:56.960 I can't think that I can condemn you because I'm 222 00:10:56.960 --> 00:11:00.480 just as bad as you are. But so when he 223 00:11:00.519 --> 00:11:03.720 says this, we read, when we read through that all 224 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:06.480 that list of all those sins yesterday, I'm telling you 225 00:11:06.639 --> 00:11:10.240 our listeners heard certain ones and went or they heard 226 00:11:10.279 --> 00:11:12.799 certain ones and went, yeah that's right, that's a terrible thing, 227 00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:15.679 right right, and then kind of you know, well, yeah, 228 00:11:15.679 --> 00:11:20.240 disobedient to parents, are insolent orreling, quarreling, Yeah that's about 229 00:11:20.679 --> 00:11:23.960 you know, Well, I'm Scottish. I just have a bad attitude. 230 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:32.240 Why because I have Scottish blood in me. Oh yeah, okay, 231 00:11:32.759 --> 00:11:35.480 so I just have a bad attitude because funny whatever, 232 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:39.240 and so so we find ways to scot right now, 233 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:42.639 why why all five of our listeners just quit listening. 234 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:44.879 Remember we said we had like eighty something people in 235 00:11:44.919 --> 00:11:46.960 Ireland that listen. So all the Irish people are like, 236 00:11:47.559 --> 00:11:51.320 go ahead from Scotts. But so we find reasons to 237 00:11:51.440 --> 00:11:54.519 dismiss why our sin is an issue? Right, Oh, it's 238 00:11:54.519 --> 00:11:56.600 just who I am or whatever. And what he's saying 239 00:11:56.679 --> 00:12:01.279 is he's not saying that you yourself do the exact sin 240 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:05.000 that other people do. We all have our own proclivity 241 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:08.360 for our own you know, sin preferences. What he's saying 242 00:12:08.440 --> 00:12:10.399 is the level of your sin is equal to the 243 00:12:10.480 --> 00:12:14.840 level of other people's sins, right, and so you know, 244 00:12:14.919 --> 00:12:18.720 you might be the one that is, you know, particularly 245 00:12:18.799 --> 00:12:24.360 deceptive and malicious, and somebody else is you know, and 246 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:27.000 you just understand deception is just part of your job 247 00:12:27.039 --> 00:12:28.919 and career. You can't get ahead and in my industry 248 00:12:28.960 --> 00:12:31.639 without being deceptive, and so you excuse that, going, well, 249 00:12:31.679 --> 00:12:32.919 it's just a nature of what I have to do. 250 00:12:33.200 --> 00:12:35.960 But you're horrified by the backstabbers and the haters of 251 00:12:36.000 --> 00:12:38.399 God and the insolent, right, and you're like, oh my goodness, 252 00:12:38.440 --> 00:12:41.120 that's horrible. And what he's saying is, listen, if you're 253 00:12:41.159 --> 00:12:43.440 on the list at all, you're on the list, right, 254 00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:45.600 And that's what he's saying in these first verses there 255 00:12:45.960 --> 00:12:48.480 is if you're a sinner, you're a sinner. Quit judging 256 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:51.080 other sinners at that point, right, right, So we have 257 00:12:51.120 --> 00:12:53.320 to get to the point where we realize we are sinners. 258 00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:56.480 And he's telling us here, listen, don't you see how 259 00:12:56.559 --> 00:13:00.440 wonderfully kind and tolerant and patient God is with you? Yeah, 260 00:13:00.440 --> 00:13:02.080 so he says God, which which by the. 261 00:13:02.080 --> 00:13:05.000 Way, brings up like some subjects of like why would 262 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:07.080 God continue to bless sinful people? Right? 263 00:13:07.120 --> 00:13:07.279 Right? 264 00:13:07.320 --> 00:13:10.679 Like why do rich why do thieves continue to get 265 00:13:10.759 --> 00:13:14.279 rich and they're allowed to enjoy the riches. You know why, 266 00:13:14.440 --> 00:13:16.919 And it's because God blesses us in spite of our 267 00:13:16.960 --> 00:13:19.399 sins on sort of all sorts of levels. 268 00:13:19.480 --> 00:13:22.559 Right, It doesn't always require the favor of God. Sometimes 269 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:24.879 it's just that you've chosen to do something and it 270 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:27.360 benefited you, and doesn't it to be God's favor, But 271 00:13:27.399 --> 00:13:28.960 it is God's tolerance. 272 00:13:28.600 --> 00:13:30.879 Yeah, and in some cases God's mercy. 273 00:13:30.919 --> 00:13:33.279 Yeah, that's right. But so then he says, can't you 274 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:35.320 see that his kindness is intended to turn you from 275 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:37.879 your sin? So you read a passage like this and 276 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:40.879 you go, oh, yeah, this is horrible. Quit reading this stuff, 277 00:13:41.519 --> 00:13:43.720 and Paul saying, no, no, listen, I'm not telling you 278 00:13:43.759 --> 00:13:45.919 this to make you feel horrible. Can't you see how 279 00:13:45.960 --> 00:13:48.559 good God is that even though you are a sinner, 280 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:51.799 God loves you. That God's whole reason for telling you 281 00:13:51.840 --> 00:13:55.039 that you're a sinner is kindness that's intended to turn 282 00:13:55.080 --> 00:13:57.919 you from your sin. God knows, like I was saying, 283 00:13:58.039 --> 00:14:00.320 that person breaking into your house trying to hurt yours, 284 00:14:01.039 --> 00:14:04.759 you hate that behavior because you love your daughter so much. 285 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:07.759 God is telling you about the consequences of sin because 286 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:11.000 He loves you so much that when you finally realize 287 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:13.519 how bad sin is and you begin to get a 288 00:14:13.600 --> 00:14:16.000 hint of it, like God understands it, then you get 289 00:14:16.120 --> 00:14:18.799 to understand how good he is because he's turning us 290 00:14:18.840 --> 00:14:21.200 away from it to a better life. And so Paul's 291 00:14:21.200 --> 00:14:24.320 trying to establish, yes, you're a sinner, but man, God 292 00:14:24.360 --> 00:14:26.559 only tells you that so you can have the good life. 293 00:14:26.879 --> 00:14:29.279 That's what he's saying. It's it's good news. It's just 294 00:14:29.360 --> 00:14:31.879 kind of wrapped in the like ugly wrapping paper here 295 00:14:31.919 --> 00:14:34.039 for us in this first you know few chapters. 296 00:14:34.159 --> 00:14:38.840 Yeah, I remember specifically one time where I was written 297 00:14:38.840 --> 00:14:40.399 into a situation. I'm not sure if it's gonna be 298 00:14:40.399 --> 00:14:42.080 a really good story. So i'll really sum it up 299 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:46.039 because I don't want to mention names or situations, but 300 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:47.720 I won't. But but the bottom line is is I 301 00:14:47.759 --> 00:14:50.840 remember one time somebody was coming up to me and 302 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:54.600 they were being super super critical of something about me. 303 00:14:55.960 --> 00:14:57.799 Then tell us names. 304 00:14:58.759 --> 00:15:03.600 I'll tak the first. But this particular girl I was 305 00:15:03.639 --> 00:15:07.000 actually I just finished speaking and actually it was actually 306 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:09.399 something that I was wearing. She didn't like what I 307 00:15:09.399 --> 00:15:12.440 was wearing. I loved what I was wearing right, but 308 00:15:12.480 --> 00:15:14.279 like she just thought it looked too country or whatever 309 00:15:14.279 --> 00:15:17.279 it was. So she she just went like backstage and 310 00:15:17.320 --> 00:15:19.120 you know, sort of like because you know, we always 311 00:15:19.240 --> 00:15:22.240 give each other feedback and to be positive, right, and 312 00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:24.159 she just sort of looked me up and down and 313 00:15:24.200 --> 00:15:25.919 she went like she's like and by the way, and 314 00:15:25.960 --> 00:15:28.679 I said what and she goes she like look up 315 00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:30.279 and down, and she was trying to make a statement 316 00:15:30.320 --> 00:15:34.039 like this really condemning statement about my clothes. And I 317 00:15:34.039 --> 00:15:36.399 remember in my mind going like, okay, I have a 318 00:15:36.559 --> 00:15:39.000 choice how to react here, like, you know, and I 319 00:15:39.080 --> 00:15:40.759 could just say what is your deal or you know, 320 00:15:40.879 --> 00:15:43.039 or be like what I like what I'm wearing, you know, 321 00:15:43.399 --> 00:15:46.559 whatever it is. And I remember in that moment, I 322 00:15:46.720 --> 00:15:50.159 just decided to just play like the most godly person 323 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:53.240 but not godly to scorn her or not trying to he. 324 00:15:53.600 --> 00:15:54.879 Pulls a fire on her. 325 00:15:54.960 --> 00:15:57.240 But I was just legitimately like, well, you know what, 326 00:15:57.240 --> 00:15:59.279 I'm just going to give her total grace. And I 327 00:15:59.320 --> 00:16:03.159 gave her the most authentic grace reaction. I just looked 328 00:16:03.159 --> 00:16:05.519 at her, you know, and pretended like she didn't even 329 00:16:05.519 --> 00:16:07.320 offend me, and just kept not going on and sort 330 00:16:07.320 --> 00:16:12.000 of ignored it, and she really wanted to continue the conversation. 331 00:16:12.120 --> 00:16:14.960 She wanted to bring it up, but because of my reaction, 332 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:17.080 she was like, oh, and so she moved on. But 333 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:19.000 you could just tell us eating at her to say like, 334 00:16:19.480 --> 00:16:22.360 you need to change your shirt. Right. So here's what happens. 335 00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:26.159 The second service. She comes back and she goes, I 336 00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:30.279 felt horrible at you know, she's I'm so sorry. She goes, 337 00:16:30.320 --> 00:16:31.879 I just want to tell you, I just don't like 338 00:16:31.919 --> 00:16:33.960 your shirt. She goes, And the way I went about 339 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:36.440 it was horrible, and I thought you were going to 340 00:16:36.679 --> 00:16:39.399 come back at me, but you were so loving and 341 00:16:39.440 --> 00:16:42.279 so kind. And she goes, and I just walked away, 342 00:16:42.320 --> 00:16:44.360 and she goes to that entire second service. I thought, 343 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:48.759 I feel so bad, and you reacted so kindly to me, 344 00:16:49.480 --> 00:16:51.600 and so and I just and so that's what reminded 345 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:54.399 me of reminds me of the fact then in spite 346 00:16:54.440 --> 00:16:57.360 of our you know, bad reactions and bad behaviors, like 347 00:16:57.480 --> 00:17:01.360 God's kindness and this mercy, you know, it's supposed to 348 00:17:01.360 --> 00:17:03.600 compel us to go I can't believe you're so kind. 349 00:17:04.079 --> 00:17:06.279 I can't believe. So maybe it was a decent story, 350 00:17:06.960 --> 00:17:10.440 but I wanted to say more, but I couldn't anyway. 351 00:17:10.440 --> 00:17:13.079 Well, I can see the parallels of you forgiving her, 352 00:17:13.359 --> 00:17:15.599 you know, disliking your shirt, and God forgiving you know, 353 00:17:15.720 --> 00:17:18.680 murderers and malicious behavior. It's very very similar. 354 00:17:19.200 --> 00:17:22.160 Yeah, well guess what, Jeff, if you're on the list, 355 00:17:22.240 --> 00:17:24.160 draw on the list, right. 356 00:17:24.359 --> 00:17:26.720 That's exactly right, that's exactly right. This is what I 357 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:29.319 was doing, was minimizing her saying that. The reality is 358 00:17:29.599 --> 00:17:33.880 it's the same God says. Listen, you've broken this law, 359 00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:38.599 and so now you can't judge other people. Now God does, 360 00:17:39.039 --> 00:17:41.480 and God is clear on this. So then it's not 361 00:17:41.640 --> 00:17:46.319 a judgmental thing for you and me as pastors to 362 00:17:46.599 --> 00:17:49.680 warn people that the bridge is out down the road. 363 00:17:50.400 --> 00:17:53.200 We're not being judgmental or hateful when we say this 364 00:17:53.279 --> 00:17:57.599 is what God says. This behavior has to stop. You 365 00:17:57.720 --> 00:18:00.799 have to stop that behavior and go God's way. Don't 366 00:18:00.839 --> 00:18:03.680 indulge in the flesh, don't go down this road. It's 367 00:18:03.720 --> 00:18:05.559 going to ruin your life. Instead, choose to do the 368 00:18:05.640 --> 00:18:09.400 right thing that's not judgmental, that is being loving. As 369 00:18:09.440 --> 00:18:11.559 long as we don't do it in a mean spirited way. 370 00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:13.400 We do it in a loving way, and we say 371 00:18:13.839 --> 00:18:16.279 be cautious, be careful, don't go in that direction. We 372 00:18:16.440 --> 00:18:18.799 love people enough to tell them what is true, what 373 00:18:18.920 --> 00:18:21.119 is right, what is good, and what is bad. And 374 00:18:21.240 --> 00:18:23.039 that is a part of the good news of the 375 00:18:23.079 --> 00:18:25.880 Gospel is being able to identify what is the bad 376 00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:27.079 side as well as the good side. 377 00:18:27.160 --> 00:18:30.519 You know, it's easy actually when you look at it 378 00:18:30.519 --> 00:18:33.359 from a thirty thousand foot view, if you sort of 379 00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:35.359 back up, you know, and you sort of look at 380 00:18:35.640 --> 00:18:38.720 the concept of sharing faith. You know, whether it's a 381 00:18:38.759 --> 00:18:42.039 preacher who gets paid to share the good news, or 382 00:18:42.039 --> 00:18:45.079 whether it's somebody typing in all caps, right, just trying 383 00:18:45.119 --> 00:18:47.319 to trying to, you know, share their opinion about what 384 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:51.160 God says. There's two extremes, right, and then you have 385 00:18:51.319 --> 00:18:53.839 people who don't type in all caps and they actually 386 00:18:53.880 --> 00:18:57.240 share in the right way. And then you have preachers 387 00:18:57.279 --> 00:18:58.720 who actually share in the wrong way. 388 00:18:58.799 --> 00:18:59.720 That's right, you know what I mean. 389 00:18:59.799 --> 00:19:03.400 Yeah, So you think about the complicated, you know, a 390 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:08.039 demeanor in which we have in trying to communicate the 391 00:19:08.039 --> 00:19:11.359 truth because we're trying to communicate the truth from the 392 00:19:11.400 --> 00:19:15.640 posture of a perfect God in an imperfect way. And 393 00:19:16.000 --> 00:19:19.000 it's so funny, how I mean, really truly if we 394 00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:22.079 were to somehow identify our brokenness by let's just say 395 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:24.880 like a color, you know, let's just say black and white, 396 00:19:24.920 --> 00:19:28.200 like all of our bad intentions, all of our mixed emotions, 397 00:19:28.240 --> 00:19:31.759 all of our brokenness, unhealthy tendencies, you know what I mean, 398 00:19:31.839 --> 00:19:34.200 the shadow missions. I mean, we have so much just 399 00:19:34.279 --> 00:19:36.960 sort of wound up and the complexity and the brokenness 400 00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:39.960 of who we are. We try so hard to communicate, 401 00:19:40.559 --> 00:19:44.599