WEBVTT NOTE This file was generated by Descript 00:00:00.789 --> 00:00:06.320 Welcome to the Soul Touched by Dogs Podcast, the show for dog lovers who 00:00:06.340 --> 00:00:12.000 see dogs not as toys or tools, but wise souls worth our respect and care. 00:00:12.580 --> 00:00:14.559 I'm an Herrmann, and I'm your host. 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:20.560 I talk to poor some humans, people who do great work for dogs and their people. 00:00:21.099 --> 00:00:23.360 So come and join us for today's conversation. 00:00:25.201 --> 00:00:26.631 Anke: Hello and welcome, Chris. 00:00:27.141 --> 00:00:29.011 I'm super excited to have you here today. 00:00:30.026 --> 00:00:32.386 Chris: Thank you, Anke, and I'm really pleased to be with you as well. 00:00:33.566 --> 00:00:33.916 Anke: Awesome. 00:00:34.186 --> 00:00:39.036 Before we dive into the topic, and if people are watching, you can already see 00:00:39.036 --> 00:00:43.886 the photos behind, behind Chris there, so you get a sense of where this is going. 00:00:44.096 --> 00:00:47.226 But before we go there, why don't you give people like a two minute bird's eye 00:00:47.336 --> 00:00:49.466 overview, you know, where you're based? 00:00:49.946 --> 00:00:50.436 What's, 00:00:50.486 --> 00:00:51.426 Chris: what's the story? 00:00:51.536 --> 00:00:52.516 What's the dog story? 00:00:52.996 --> 00:00:53.986 Yes, thank you, Anke. 00:00:53.986 --> 00:00:58.166 Well, people can probably tell from the accent, I'm based in the UK, or at least 00:00:58.166 --> 00:00:59.866 I'm from the UK, but I'm based in the UK. 00:00:59.866 --> 00:01:00.155 Nice. 00:01:00.486 --> 00:01:06.346 Uh, we live between Windsor and Ascot, um, so if you know the UK, uh, well, 00:01:06.356 --> 00:01:11.116 Heathrow Airport just, uh, to the west of London and, and Windsor Castle, uh, 00:01:11.116 --> 00:01:14.636 is where that area with the Windsor Great Park, we take a lot of photographs. 00:01:14.696 --> 00:01:19.276 Um, for those looking and watching the, uh, this podcast, you will see some 00:01:19.286 --> 00:01:20.426 of those photographs on the screen. 00:01:21.046 --> 00:01:23.696 Uh, the country looking ones, the forest looking ones. 00:01:23.696 --> 00:01:25.736 We have so many forests near us. 00:01:26.096 --> 00:01:28.116 Uh, as you can tell, I'm a dog photographer. 00:01:28.166 --> 00:01:33.246 Um, we are called Mill Pet Photography, but we exclusively focus on dogs, and 00:01:33.266 --> 00:01:36.686 maybe I can share a little bit about why that, uh, why that is in a moment. 00:01:36.996 --> 00:01:41.396 Um, but I have spent 40 years in the tech industry, uh, and then, 00:01:41.506 --> 00:01:45.086 uh, at the beginning of last year, switched to be 100 percent full 00:01:45.086 --> 00:01:47.376 time focused on photographing dogs. 00:01:47.841 --> 00:01:48.191 I love 00:01:48.191 --> 00:01:48.351 Anke: it. 00:01:48.421 --> 00:01:48.911 I love it. 00:01:49.211 --> 00:01:53.151 And I remember, actually, I remember when we connected on LinkedIn, it 00:01:53.151 --> 00:01:57.961 was just when you'd made the leap, you know, and so it was just awesome 00:01:57.961 --> 00:01:59.921 to see where you've taken it. 00:02:00.041 --> 00:02:02.641 So, so yeah, why don't we start there? 00:02:02.651 --> 00:02:06.361 You know, what, what's the story behind the focus on dogs? 00:02:07.186 --> 00:02:10.516 Chris: Yeah, well, if I go all the way back, I mean, I've always had a passion 00:02:10.516 --> 00:02:14.876 for photography, um, and like many people always had a passion, not just for dogs, 00:02:14.876 --> 00:02:20.206 for all animals, to be fair, um, cats and dogs, um, but the very first dog that I 00:02:20.206 --> 00:02:23.376 had was, uh, when I was two years old. 00:02:23.876 --> 00:02:27.726 Uh, and obviously I don't remember the dog coming home, but it was a 00:02:27.726 --> 00:02:30.026 one year old, uh, greyhound rescue. 00:02:30.686 --> 00:02:35.546 And, uh, my granddad at the time, uh, used to, uh, work with greyhounds 00:02:35.546 --> 00:02:38.756 and actually test them before they raced, uh, back in those days. 00:02:39.116 --> 00:02:43.046 And that's how we got Jenny, uh, a beautiful grey greyhound 00:02:43.046 --> 00:02:44.106 with little white paws. 00:02:44.566 --> 00:02:47.886 Um, but the sad story, I mean, I grew up with her, which is fantastic. 00:02:47.956 --> 00:02:49.740 Uh, she lasted almost 12 years. 00:02:50.811 --> 00:02:53.961 But I knew no other dog in all my life. 00:02:54.491 --> 00:02:58.481 And even now when I speak with my father, we only have between 00:02:58.481 --> 00:03:00.391 us one photograph of Jenny. 00:03:00.491 --> 00:03:02.151 And that is a photograph of Jenny and me. 00:03:02.881 --> 00:03:05.581 And it's always made me sad, and even now I'm thinking of it. 00:03:05.671 --> 00:03:10.211 But it, it started to become quite important to me a few years ago. 00:03:10.661 --> 00:03:14.871 When around 2018, I was starting to think, what do I want to do when 00:03:14.871 --> 00:03:19.861 I eventually retire, if that's the phrase, from the tech industry? 00:03:20.421 --> 00:03:25.681 Um, and I did consider non executive type roles, though there's more 00:03:25.681 --> 00:03:28.861 natural route that people in senior leadership roles would move 00:03:28.861 --> 00:03:30.671 into, and that was my background. 00:03:31.121 --> 00:03:33.861 But I don't always like to just follow the norm, I like to 00:03:33.951 --> 00:03:35.021 do something a bit different. 00:03:35.391 --> 00:03:38.651 So, I decided then, what's the hardest thing? 00:03:38.701 --> 00:03:40.131 It's working with... 00:03:40.686 --> 00:03:41.836 Children and animals. 00:03:42.256 --> 00:03:45.156 So how about if I photograph, well at least, animals. 00:03:45.626 --> 00:03:51.796 And so in 2018 I started on that journey and I took training with a number of the 00:03:51.796 --> 00:03:53.726 leading dog photographers still today. 00:03:54.546 --> 00:03:58.926 In the UK, Nick Ridley, who does a lot of gundogs and working 00:03:58.926 --> 00:04:00.476 dogs, I started with him. 00:04:00.981 --> 00:04:03.681 Um, Maria, Michael helped me a lot as well. 00:04:03.711 --> 00:04:05.211 Uh, she still photographs. 00:04:05.211 --> 00:04:08.961 Nick doesn't, but, uh, Maria does still photograph and her work is excellent. 00:04:08.961 --> 00:04:10.701 She does, uh, equine as well. 00:04:11.361 --> 00:04:12.591 Um, and then remotely. 00:04:12.596 --> 00:04:16.611 Charlotte Reeves in Australia was just absolutely a superstar 00:04:16.611 --> 00:04:21.911 in helping me focus and just get outdoors, just focus outdoors. 00:04:22.381 --> 00:04:24.691 Um, and then as the journey's progressed, a whole, whole 00:04:24.691 --> 00:04:28.231 load of other people, including Claudia, uh, Claudia Oli in Italy. 00:04:28.471 --> 00:04:33.351 who really taught me dogs in action, um, so that I can get dogs in flight. 00:04:33.351 --> 00:04:36.221 And, and I think it's for that more locally that I've become 00:04:36.451 --> 00:04:38.811 reasonably, um, uh, well known. 00:04:39.091 --> 00:04:41.571 And people always want pictures of their dogs flying if 00:04:41.571 --> 00:04:43.081 their dogs will run at speed. 00:04:43.091 --> 00:04:45.361 So, That's how I sort of got there. 00:04:45.411 --> 00:04:50.821 And I started, I think, 2018 through 2021, as much as I could in my spare 00:04:50.821 --> 00:04:52.541 time, just train and train and train. 00:04:53.091 --> 00:04:55.111 And then, yeah, took the step early last year. 00:04:55.521 --> 00:04:55.901 I love 00:04:55.901 --> 00:04:56.011 Anke: it. 00:04:56.191 --> 00:04:56.471 I love it. 00:04:56.781 --> 00:04:59.161 And if so, if you can see the photos, you can see all the 00:04:59.171 --> 00:05:00.921 images, they're all out in nature. 00:05:00.941 --> 00:05:03.941 And so what's the, what's the hardest part? 00:05:04.991 --> 00:05:10.021 about getting like, you know, because your, your photos on sort 00:05:10.021 --> 00:05:12.181 of staged in a, in a studio, right? 00:05:12.181 --> 00:05:17.191 So they kind of capture the dog in movement in their natural, like literally 00:05:17.211 --> 00:05:22.581 just kind of like a snap, like in motion and, you know, where you can 00:05:22.581 --> 00:05:24.241 really feel the essence of the dog. 00:05:24.291 --> 00:05:26.141 Like what's the hardest part of capturing that? 00:05:26.886 --> 00:05:29.906 Chris: It's a really good question, and I'm glad you picked that up as well, Anke, 00:05:29.916 --> 00:05:35.536 because, um, first of all, uh, with the, the technology in most people's mobiles 00:05:35.536 --> 00:05:40.336 today, everyone can get great photographs of their dog, um, particularly, as 00:05:40.336 --> 00:05:41.736 I would say, in a portrait style. 00:05:42.331 --> 00:05:43.351 Uh, and, and do so. 00:05:43.351 --> 00:05:44.651 Just keep taking those photos. 00:05:44.901 --> 00:05:45.821 I encourage everyone. 00:05:46.091 --> 00:05:49.771 In fact, if anyone wants to later come across our website, sign up to our 00:05:49.811 --> 00:05:54.651 newsletter, they will get, um, a free guide, a PDF guide on, on taking better 00:05:54.651 --> 00:05:56.081 photo, photographs with your phone. 00:05:56.411 --> 00:05:57.871 Um, a bit of your dog. 00:05:58.361 --> 00:06:00.731 But coming to the point that you say, yeah, how do you do it? 00:06:00.951 --> 00:06:04.001 I just like getting pictures of dogs being dogs. 00:06:04.391 --> 00:06:06.481 Um, and, and it's a phrase I use. 00:06:06.481 --> 00:06:10.501 I know a lot of people, I know in the industry now, say the same thing. 00:06:10.841 --> 00:06:12.191 You've gotta little dog, be a dog. 00:06:12.551 --> 00:06:16.511 Now, I do love cute photographs taken in studios. 00:06:16.541 --> 00:06:20.861 Uh, there's some amazing studio photographers, um, in the UK as well. 00:06:21.181 --> 00:06:23.551 Uh, you and Chain up in, uh, in, in Scotland. 00:06:23.581 --> 00:06:27.961 Uh, spent some time with him last month and, uh, and his work is just stunning. 00:06:28.051 --> 00:06:30.561 Um, but, and it's beautiful and I love that. 00:06:30.561 --> 00:06:33.831 And, and, and it is still a dog, being dog, but for me, 00:06:33.831 --> 00:06:35.931 it's not my, my personal style. 00:06:35.931 --> 00:06:39.441 I, I will do some, some studio work, but it's for projects. 00:06:39.811 --> 00:06:44.771 I just like getting dogs in their natural environment, letting them have fun, and 00:06:44.771 --> 00:06:50.491 I studied canine behavior, um, just over two years ago now, and, uh, got a diploma 00:06:50.491 --> 00:06:56.501 in it as well, and that helps me really understand the dog at the time, so I can 00:06:56.501 --> 00:07:02.381 work with very anxious dogs, um, the dogs don't need to be on, uh, off lead if they 00:07:02.381 --> 00:07:05.511 want to stay on lead for the safety of the dog or the environment we're in, we'll 00:07:05.511 --> 00:07:10.831 always do that, and we'll do the magic of, uh, of post processing in Photoshop later. 00:07:11.221 --> 00:07:17.161 But for me, it is about trying to connect with the dog, and Yeah, the one thing 00:07:17.161 --> 00:07:22.251 I do that might be a little different is when I meet the dog, I meet the dog. 00:07:22.501 --> 00:07:23.701 I don't meet the owner. 00:07:23.771 --> 00:07:28.191 So when I'm there, particularly with Sue, because my wife does join me, 00:07:28.461 --> 00:07:32.651 uh, she's a dog wrangler, but actually she's often talking to the owner. 00:07:33.291 --> 00:07:37.411 I will engage with the dog immediately, unless it's an anxious one, in which 00:07:37.451 --> 00:07:39.171 case I'll, I'll give it a lot of time. 00:07:39.581 --> 00:07:43.181 Um, but I'll get to know the dog and I'll get very friendly with the dog. 00:07:43.836 --> 00:07:46.826 And what comes through hopefully in the photography is that the dog's 00:07:46.826 --> 00:07:50.316 just having fun and just wants to carry on doing what we're doing. 00:07:51.216 --> 00:07:51.506 I love 00:07:51.506 --> 00:07:51.855 Anke: that. 00:07:51.856 --> 00:07:52.456 I really love it. 00:07:53.616 --> 00:07:57.556 I mean, I was just, I was just thinking, well, I'm going to go get that guy because 00:07:58.216 --> 00:08:04.491 I have one of my dogs is like all black and it's so hard to get a decent shot of 00:08:04.491 --> 00:08:05.865 Chris: him. 00:08:07.046 --> 00:08:10.236 Dog photographers will all say the same thing that an all black 00:08:10.236 --> 00:08:12.686 dog is one of the hardest to... 00:08:13.936 --> 00:08:17.596 Not to photograph, but to show in its true representation. 00:08:17.976 --> 00:08:21.016 And I know those watching on the screen will see there is a black 00:08:21.016 --> 00:08:24.376 dog there, and it's relatively small in its image size there. 00:08:24.806 --> 00:08:27.816 Um, but the reason behind it is because, particularly if you're 00:08:27.816 --> 00:08:31.256 out in the natural light, you've got lots of other colours going on. 00:08:31.356 --> 00:08:36.476 Um, and you will tend to get blues and magentas coming through in a black. 00:08:36.946 --> 00:08:41.406 Uh, which is natural, but unfortunately the way our cameras work is that 00:08:41.416 --> 00:08:44.966 they'll often accentuate that, so you need to balance that and 00:08:44.966 --> 00:08:46.896 correct that in the post processing. 00:08:47.226 --> 00:08:49.846 Not to get the dog completely black, because that's also 00:08:49.846 --> 00:08:51.206 not natural, but to get it... 00:08:51.686 --> 00:08:53.926 Back to the natural colour that you saw. 00:08:53.966 --> 00:08:55.476 So yeah, they are, they are a challenge. 00:08:55.546 --> 00:08:59.206 Um, and also dogs at speed are a challenge as well. 00:08:59.206 --> 00:09:00.346 I bet, I bet. 00:09:00.346 --> 00:09:04.376 That's what obviously I've, you know, both with the equipment and the technique is 00:09:04.376 --> 00:09:05.856 what I've learned is to capture those. 00:09:06.406 --> 00:09:06.596 So 00:09:06.596 --> 00:09:10.576 Anke: I think, well, my imagination goes like, well, you'll probably take a lot 00:09:10.576 --> 00:09:15.366 of photos in really short procession to sort of find that, that, that one. 00:09:15.816 --> 00:09:22.246 You know, so what, what's the, what's the funniest story you've ever had with a dog? 00:09:23.716 --> 00:09:28.266 Chris: Well, actually, um, there's quite a few, but if I think of, there's two 00:09:28.266 --> 00:09:33.306 that spring into mind immediately, and they both ended up with, uh, me and 00:09:33.306 --> 00:09:34.996 the dog on top of me with my camera. 00:09:35.246 --> 00:09:40.696 Um, there's one that's, uh, actually, um, I put out on social media earlier 00:09:40.696 --> 00:09:44.696 this week, which is of Harvey, a wonderful, uh, chocolate Labrador. 00:09:45.146 --> 00:09:49.496 Now, he's a dog that I've now been able to photograph three times, uh, over the, 00:09:49.536 --> 00:09:56.286 the five years, and, uh, in this one that I posted, he was, we're in the forest, 00:09:56.356 --> 00:10:00.866 um, I'm laying on the ground, he kind of knows we're there, I've got Dad behind me, 00:10:01.086 --> 00:10:04.675 calling him, so he's running towards Dad. 00:10:04.846 --> 00:10:08.536 But he sees me lying on the ground at a slightly odd angle and I 00:10:08.546 --> 00:10:12.276 literally am laying almost in a little dip, so I'm below him. 00:10:12.816 --> 00:10:18.076 And he jumps to go towards Dad, sees me and sort of changes direction 00:10:18.396 --> 00:10:21.646 and the photograph is, is captured as, you're absolutely right, there's 00:10:21.646 --> 00:10:24.136 probably 25 images in that sequence. 00:10:24.526 --> 00:10:27.146 Uh, but that one is just before he, he hits me. 00:10:27.566 --> 00:10:31.506 Um, and then after that, he's hit me, he's on top of me, and he's having a 00:10:31.506 --> 00:10:33.486 good old lick and a laugh and things. 00:10:33.556 --> 00:10:38.126 Um, but, and a very similar one, I did a dog agility earlier this year, uh, 00:10:38.156 --> 00:10:44.016 just for one client who'd taken the, uh, the entire agility circuit, and I was 00:10:44.016 --> 00:10:45.686 at different points taking photographs. 00:10:45.946 --> 00:10:49.346 But at the end, when we were finished, uh, Kiva was encouraged, 00:10:49.416 --> 00:10:51.036 uh, go on, go and see Chris. 00:10:51.086 --> 00:10:54.076 And I had photographed her once before already. 00:10:54.366 --> 00:10:57.596 Uh, so this was the second time, and so she kind of knew me, and she, 00:10:57.676 --> 00:11:00.646 again, she was all over me, and this time she's licking the camera and 00:11:00.646 --> 00:11:04.286 stuff, so, yeah, that was, that was a pretty heavy duty clean afterwards 00:11:04.286 --> 00:11:08.246 that was needed, but that's fine, let dogs be dogs, and, uh, you get 00:11:08.256 --> 00:11:09.686 the best pictures as well that way. 00:11:09.786 --> 00:11:12.556 Anke: Totally, totally, I think especially when it goes a little off 00:11:12.586 --> 00:11:13.216 Chris: plan, right? 00:11:13.216 --> 00:11:15.306 It's good fun, it is good fun. 00:11:15.886 --> 00:11:16.286 Anke: Love it. 00:11:16.416 --> 00:11:19.106 So in the last couple of minutes, why don't you share 00:11:19.146 --> 00:11:23.276 about your amazing 60 project? 00:11:25.206 --> 00:11:26.476 Chris: Yes, Anke, thank you. 00:11:26.476 --> 00:11:33.671 So, um, yes, so I turned 60 in a couple of weeks time, um, and Lots 00:11:33.671 --> 00:11:36.211 of people have been saying, hey, what are you going to do for your birthday? 00:11:36.211 --> 00:11:38.611 And we're going to do a few things for friends and family. 00:11:38.611 --> 00:11:41.351 But, um, it was like, are you going to celebrate? 00:11:41.351 --> 00:11:42.041 Are you going to go off? 00:11:42.081 --> 00:11:43.511 Are you going to have a super party? 00:11:43.521 --> 00:11:45.381 Are you going to have a super holiday or something? 00:11:45.961 --> 00:11:49.181 And it was kind of like, I want to celebrate this. 00:11:49.201 --> 00:11:52.331 But actually, I want to celebrate it with dogs. 00:11:52.866 --> 00:11:57.396 And so, um, the project that I'm creating, and I'll be announcing 00:11:57.396 --> 00:12:02.966 it all fully soon, is, is 60 at 60, a celebration of the life of dogs. 00:12:03.586 --> 00:12:07.846 And what I'm considering is photographing, you know, so I don't want to use 00:12:07.846 --> 00:12:11.256 any, uh, photographs I've taken before, I'm happy to use the same 00:12:11.256 --> 00:12:12.676 dogs if they want to be part of it. 00:12:13.291 --> 00:12:16.471 But I want 60 different, uh, dogs. 00:12:16.521 --> 00:12:20.541 They could be similar breeds in some cases, but as, as unique as possible. 00:12:21.161 --> 00:12:22.921 And I want to celebrate the lives of dogs. 00:12:22.931 --> 00:12:26.431 So I want a group of, of dogs that are in their puppy phase. 00:12:26.681 --> 00:12:30.461 I want a group of dogs that are up their, uh, very senior phase 00:12:30.651 --> 00:12:31.981 and then everything in between. 00:12:32.351 --> 00:12:34.591 And I'm also thinking that I might go for some groups of 00:12:34.591 --> 00:12:36.391 dogs that are truly working. 00:12:36.701 --> 00:12:38.661 Um, so they're service animals as well. 00:12:39.061 --> 00:12:44.126 Um, and if I look back over the last five years, I've photographed dogs in all 00:12:44.126 --> 00:12:49.216 of those categories, and wouldn't it be nice to maybe get 60 of them, get them, 00:12:49.236 --> 00:12:50.636 and I'll probably put them into a book. 00:12:50.636 --> 00:12:54.436 We published a book last year, Tales of Windsor and Ascot, and that 00:12:54.446 --> 00:12:59.626 had 45 dogs in, so we might self publish another book to cover that. 00:13:00.056 --> 00:13:03.576 It'll be a fundraiser, anyone that's part of it will be raising money for a 00:13:03.636 --> 00:13:08.446 local dog charity as well, but I have this vision that doing that would be 00:13:08.446 --> 00:13:12.736 great to celebrate the lives of dogs, but then I want to take one photograph 00:13:12.806 --> 00:13:17.986 from each of those sessions and bring that into a piece of art that I create. 00:13:18.641 --> 00:13:23.521 Um, and I, I still don't know what that will be, but it will be titled 00:13:23.761 --> 00:13:27.571 A Celebration of the Lives of Dogs, and it might be 60 at 60 still, 00:13:27.571 --> 00:13:30.241 I'm not sure if I'll put that with it, but that's what I'm after. 00:13:30.731 --> 00:13:35.581 Um, I took a course earlier this year with a lady called Belinda Riches 00:13:35.861 --> 00:13:37.701 in Australia, who's the absolute... 00:13:37.836 --> 00:13:43.196 She's the master of composite photography for dogs, and she's created, if anyone's 00:13:43.416 --> 00:13:46.406 not checked out her work, just, if you love dogs, just check her out, so 00:13:46.406 --> 00:13:50.996 Belinda Richards, and she, she takes photographs mostly in the studio, 00:13:51.406 --> 00:13:55.896 and then composites the pictures and creates amazing piece of works of art. 00:13:56.256 --> 00:14:01.066 So she's already trained me, and she's agreed to, uh, to be a bouncing ball for 00:14:01.066 --> 00:14:03.276 me as I try and come up with this idea. 00:14:03.466 --> 00:14:06.086 It has to be mine, I have to create it, it's got to be unique. 00:14:06.616 --> 00:14:09.956 But I've never done it, so I can't quite say to anyone, wow, this is what 00:14:09.956 --> 00:14:11.006 it's going to look like at the end. 00:14:11.036 --> 00:14:16.086 But I'm thinking I'll spend most of next year taking one image from each 00:14:16.096 --> 00:14:20.316 of the sessions, putting them into a 60 at 60, and before I hit 61, make 00:14:20.316 --> 00:14:21.576 sure I finish this piece of work. 00:14:21.576 --> 00:14:25.496 So, uh, if you were to check in this time next year, I need to be sure. 00:14:25.496 --> 00:14:26.731 I will definitely. 00:14:26.911 --> 00:14:27.141 I've 00:14:27.141 --> 00:14:28.281 Anke: got you now, Neil. 00:14:29.521 --> 00:14:30.681 Chris: There's accountability. 00:14:31.341 --> 00:14:31.741 Oh, I 00:14:31.741 --> 00:14:35.411 Anke: will, you know, I'm a mean account of kind, but I'm there. 00:14:35.641 --> 00:14:37.031 So I'm going to check in on you. 00:14:37.471 --> 00:14:40.371 So where can people go find out more about you, about the 00:14:40.371 --> 00:14:42.411 project, about the books to book 00:14:42.411 --> 00:14:42.741 Chris: you? 00:14:43.201 --> 00:14:43.561 Yeah. 00:14:44.921 --> 00:14:47.501 The best place, I mean we're all over socials, but the best place to 00:14:47.501 --> 00:14:50.171 go is the website, and that's www. 00:14:50.171 --> 00:14:51.730 millersimage. 00:14:51.731 --> 00:14:52.131 com. 00:14:52.211 --> 00:14:56.431 Um, the M I L stands for Millers Image Limited, so it's, but it's Miller's Image. 00:14:56.881 --> 00:15:00.331 If they forget that, just search Mill Pet Photography, we should be found. 00:15:00.451 --> 00:15:01.791 Uh, there shouldn't be a problem with that. 00:15:01.861 --> 00:15:06.581 The project itself, I'm just waiting on, um, a couple of charitable 00:15:06.631 --> 00:15:08.441 commitments, or confirmations. 00:15:08.461 --> 00:15:12.606 Once I get those, then I will, Start to socialize that, but I'm probably 00:15:12.606 --> 00:15:14.656 going to wait until I am actually 60. 00:15:14.676 --> 00:15:19.146 So maybe a couple more weeks before that's up there, but the website and if you want 00:15:19.156 --> 00:15:24.086 to be able to get to that PDF guide of getting great photos from your mobile, 00:15:24.636 --> 00:15:27.626 just sign up to the newsletter that's up there and you'll get a copy of that. 00:15:28.296 --> 00:15:29.196 Anke: Sounds fantastic. 00:15:29.196 --> 00:15:31.376 So the link will obviously be in the show notes. 00:15:31.376 --> 00:15:35.216 If you're listening below the video, if you're, if you're reading it 00:15:35.246 --> 00:15:37.056 in the, in the, in the newsletter. 00:15:37.076 --> 00:15:38.986 So thank you so much. 00:15:38.986 --> 00:15:41.556 This was so much fun and I can't wait to get that going now. 00:15:48.619 --> 00:15:49.849 Thanks so much for listening. 00:15:50.369 --> 00:15:54.669 If you enjoyed the episode, don't forget to subscribe, and leave a review so 00:15:54.769 --> 00:15:56.549 other dog lovers can find the show. 00:15:57.339 --> 00:16:00.829 If you haven't already, head over to soul touched by dogs. 00:16:01.259 --> 00:16:06.829 com and sign up for weekly doggy cuteness tips, recommendations, and personal 00:16:06.929 --> 00:16:09.299 stories to warm your dog loving heart. 00:16:09.299 --> 00:16:13.029 And if you know a pawsome human you think I should interview, 00:16:13.449 --> 00:16:14.589 I'd love an introduction. 00:16:15.069 --> 00:16:16.899 Email me at Anke. 00:16:17.169 --> 00:16:21.404 That's A N k E at Soul touched by dogs.com.