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No, I'm great.

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If I told them once, I told them a hundred times to put spinal tap first and puppet show last.

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It's a morale builder, isn't it?

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We've got a big dressing room now, isn't it?

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You know, we've got a big dressing room.

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Oh, we've got a bigger dressing room than the puppets.

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Oh, that's refreshing.

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Hello, welcome to Cinema Beef Podcast.

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I am your host, host with the, not so most, Gary Hill.

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Started this thing about eight years ago, and this is the result of it be on a microphone by myself.

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Not really though.

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This show will bring many folks together that are excited for you to hear their voices.

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Most of the time, they talk more than me, which is fine, because the main crux of the show is to celebrate Christopher Guest, and that's what we're doing for the most part with some little additional things for you guys to denounce on.

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And what can I say, eight years, man.

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I thought of doing this because some of the folks were...

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I enjoyed what some other folks were doing, but I listened to their shows, and I can name those shows here, but I'm not going to.

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One of which is not with us anymore.

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I have to mention him.

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Johnny Krueger, you're up there in horror movie heaven somewhere, wherever planning resistance you may be on, whatever it is, no judgment here, but I listened to Krueger Nation first, and I like to think that if it wasn't for that, me enjoying what Johnny did, laying down what he used to do solo, which is hard enough to do as it is, I wouldn't be as exuberant as I am today, because I don't know if you guys know this as a podcaster, I tell folks this often, you know, if we start out, your first 10 shows will probably be terrible, because you don't have confidence in the microphone.

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That man had confidence in the microphone, because he loved the content that he talked about.

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And when I started this thing, I said, you know what?

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There's lots of horror podcasts out there, and if I did just horror, I would just like the rest of them, and I like to single myself out.

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If you guys hear some of the programming on some of these shows, sometimes they're really off the wall.

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That's because, you know, my tiny brain gets going and the gears get moving and say, you know what?

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This would go together sort of well.

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Some folks will get it, some folks won't get it, but the joke lands with at least one person.

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I feel like doing my job as a podcaster.

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Yeah.

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So I'll kick off this show.

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Usually we do what you've been watching.

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So I'm gonna name a couple things that I have been watching.

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And do small reviews of them.

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And these might be Patreon bonuses, eventually me doing a new horror film in something old that might be terrible, because I like torture myself and not torture others.

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So speaking of torturing myself, I did watch the new Ty West film X from this year.

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I'm not normally a fan of Ty West.

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I think a lot of his slow burns do not work with me.

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And my favorite film of his is the one he denied, which is Cabin Fever 2, which is, I think is a lot of fun.

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But that's the one that he denies any credit for involvement.

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He knows he was involved in it.

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But if you haven't seen the previews, this is like a throwback movie that are oh so popular nowadays.

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This is written, directed and produced by Ty West.

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It stars Mia Goth, Jenny Ortega, Brittany Snow, Kid Cudi, I think you pronounce that guy's name.

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He's a rapper, but he's also accent things sometimes.

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And some really kooky old folks.

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And a certain thing in the water that I'm not gonna give away.

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It makes it epic.

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Basically, you know, this group of people leave out to go, they rent out this like farm house from these old folks, because they're gonna make a porno people, you know, and they're gonna get their names in lights or some shit like that.

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But, and of course things go awry.

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The old folks are really weird.

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But your cheapo plot synopsis for this movie is, in 1979, a group of young filmmakers set out to make an adult film in rural Texas.

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But when their reclusive elderly hosts catch them in the act, the cats find themselves fighting for their lives.

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That's yes and no with the plot, because the couple in question, the man is a little frisky, but daddy's a little weirded out that he might have a heart attack if he gets frisky.

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So there's a plot here where she finds out what they're doing and she's like, well, I'm gonna get some of that.

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And, you know, she just goes on a crazy killing spree.

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And I should have said spoilers for that, but I'm sorry.

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But there's more to it than that.

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And there's, I'll stop my spoilers there, but I'll give some raw generalizations about this movie, but I do, I think it does right.

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A lot of these horror films come out now that are sort of like the member berries of horror films.

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I mean, if you watch any Rob Zombie film, you could tell where his inspiration came from.

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You could tell where Ty West's inspiration came from.

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This movie too, it's the same kind of films, but he doesn't, and my friend made a good point.

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He liked the film, but it felt more like Toby Hooper's eating alive rather than Texas Chainsaw Massacre, which is just about every film that Rob Zombie's ever made has either been Texas Chainsaw Massacre or in Lord Salem's realm, the Sentinel mixes some other stuff.

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And what Ty West does so well here is that he doesn't take direct everything from everything.

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Means he's having fun with these characters, although I don't like these characters all that much.

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I was hoping for Brittany Snowe to die as soon as, you know, she started talking about making the fake burning orgasms and the icing on the cake is the black guy with an acoustic guitar, her singing Fleetwood Maxx on, on a couch.

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Like, yeah, just this girl needs to die.

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And spoilers, I get my wish.

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But the gore is incredible.

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You know, poke in the eye, full frontal male nudity and female nudity.

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If you haven't heard, a lot of folks complain about that.

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Oh, there's all this female nudity, but no male nudity.

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You got, you got hanging down in this movie.

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And not the one you want to see, but it's, it's pretty gross.

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But the end is really satisfying.

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You know, there's one, there's one, you know, there's a survivor and, you know, the conclusion is really amazing.

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They talk about, you know, them making your prequel.

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Apparently there's an end credit sequence that I did not see where they set it up for the prequel, I guess to tell the origin of this old couple.

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And I don't need to know that.

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I would rather go unknowing what's going on.

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But I think Kyle had it right.

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It feels more like eating alive.

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Like these people have taken folks in to their, their boarding house in multiple times and killed.

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This has happened before with, with the, the him and the wife, you know, having to, you know, do stuff and, you know, I can say if you have a C and X and you're a novice 824 fan like myself, I could take it or leave it.

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Certain things are wonderful.

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I think a majority of it is pompous bullshit, but this is, this is pretty sly, pretty in your face gore.

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And I got, I got to love gore for gore's sake.

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It didn't play punches.

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It really took that R rating and said, you know what?

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We're going to give you stuff that the world looks like fucking a hamburger meat mixed with, you know, red dye number five and possibly some Karo syrup.

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Just to be really, really, really, really see that, that, that visceral, you know, yeah, you know, I loved it.

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I loved, this is a, this is his best work, I think.

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I mean, fuck the innkeepers.

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I, and, and yeah, a couple other things, you may, I, I feel this is his best work because there's, I, I'm not a huge fan of the slow burn when it doesn't work for me.

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I, I watch the slow burn when it does work, but this, this, you know, like, like, I think you wait a good 45 minutes for the first kill, but when it hits, it fucking hits you like, like a ton of bricks and you're like, yeah, this, this is the film for me.

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So, X, if I had to give it a rating right now without watching it, watching it again, I only watched it once.

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Eight out of 10, I gotta say, and that's, that's a lot saying for me in entire West stuff.

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Go, go watch it.

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But, the next thing I watched it, this is the question of one that I wasn't sure if I was gonna like it or not.

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We discussed this film briefly on the gore commentary for, if you had listened to the last two of the Venom commentaries, we put one out for gore.

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And the director of that movie, directed Children of the Corn.

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He directed Tough Turf.

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And he directed also this film, can talk about right now called Winners Take All, which is, it sounds, you know, really, and it is, I'll tell you right now, here we go.

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The scene is a modern 1980s arena where present day gladiators compete in the wild sports extravaganza of Supercross.

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Winner takes all, mixes the rivalry and the camaraderie of two young men with the thrill of spectacular driving and high stakes competition.

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Going beyond the drama and excitement of the racing scene, a cast of hot talented newcomers of young love, no one can feel left out of the thrill of victory on the track and off.

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That sounds like somebody really loved this movie a lot.

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And just to give you a quick, quick, quick, quick, I had to look at this real fast.

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I'm sorry guys.

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No, okay, well this is something.

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The guy that helped write this movie, Christopher W.

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Knight, which is not Christopher, not the Brady Bunch, executive produced Hot Dog, The Movie, which is of sex comedy from the 80s.

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But this star is Don Michael Paul of, that was very familiar to me.

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He was, he did a lot of writing and stuff.

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I'm sorry, he didn't star in a lot of stuff.

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His names sounded very familiar, so I apologize for my talking right there.

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Courtney Gaines shows up in this movie as our hero, Rick Mellon's friend.

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He's the star of this picture.

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And so is Peter Del Luiz.

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You may know Courtney Gaines from working with Franz Kirsch.

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In Children Of Court, of course, he was Malachi, if you guys didn't know that.

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Kathleen York as Judy McCormick is his squeeze that goes for his buddy.

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Robert Kranz as bad Billy Robinson.

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There's some other folks, this also stars Tony Longo as Baron Nolan, which is a fun character because he's basically like this goon who was also in the motocross race, who has much more of a role in the finale of the big motocross race in Texas.

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And somebody shows up in this film, Kathleen Kinmont, who was the bride of Reanimator.

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And she was also in Halloween IV, The Return of Michael Myers.

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She plays a spectator in this movie.

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She's not in much of it, but I thought it was fun that I saw her on the credits.

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So I would mention her because people know who she is.

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This film, have you seen Rad, people?

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Because it's kind of like Rad.

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Basically Billy plays, I mean, Rick Mellon is this guy who lives in a small town where his best friend in Motocross, in a sense, Bad Billy went to go to the bigs.

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He went to go on the circuit.

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When he comes back to town for this race and they become, they get reacquainted and unfortunately Bad Billy gets reacquainted with his girl again, because that used to be Bad Billy's girl.

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And of course Rick scooped in when he ducked out of town.

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So Rick, Rick loses the race, but he decides to go race in Dallas at like this big, it's a Texas, it's really cool.

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It's filled the Texas Stadium, this whole big motocross, you know, race scene and to try to win some pride back, I guess, from Bad Billy and his ex-girl, bringing his buddies along the way, Peter DeLuis and Courtney Gaines, who is Wally Briskin and Courtney Gaines with a character called Goose Trammell.

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And these guys are fun too, they're like the buddies, they help them, you know, do maintenance on the bike and he has another girl that comes along for the ride, Cindy, who's like an ace mechanic, and of course in the end, they're gonna get together because it's that kind of movie.

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They have the race, the race gets all messed up, so they have, of course, another race in the mountains to see who's got the biggest motocross dick there is, and it's got crazy motocross stunts in it, but the big problem, why I say watch Rad before you watch this movie is because Rad has the soundtrack, Rad has much better directed bike stunts because it's directed by Hal Needham, for Christ's sake, you know, ace stunt coordinator as it is, behind an directing chair, and this film is kind of corny and not in the sense of whatever.

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It's just like, how do I say this?

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It's like absorbently masculine in a lot of ways.

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There's a line in this movie that Billy tells his teammates, because he's part of like a three man team, much like in Rad, where he says, you know why my name's printed on my ass?

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So you know who to follow.

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So it's like really, really masculine and probably a little bit homoerotic too.

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I don't know.

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It's there.

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And all in all, you know, I wish there was a better copy of this movie out there, but you could find this on YouTube.

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I don't think anywhere else, but like VHS.

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But I had a decent time with this movie.

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It was definitely a piece of the era of 1980s, you know, stunt biking and, you know, overall dude bro moments.

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It's full of that.

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And MVP of this film is just big dumb Tony Longo and his crazy action.

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Just flipping over bikes and knocking people over.

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And there's a guy in here who's a Bad Billy sponsor, who looks like a crossing Rick Flair in Uncle Baby Billy from The Righteous Gemstones.

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And it's kind of fucking magical.

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So look out for that guy too.

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Like I said, it's on YouTube.

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I'm going to put the link in the show notes of this episode so you guys could check it out if you would like to.

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Gamma Cut The Crest is like a real family affair.

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Some of the actors have the same last name as the crew.

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And so I guess that's how they got into it, I guess.

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But Winners Take All from the year of 1987, I was almost going to say the year of our Lord, directed by Fritz Kirsch.

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You guys should go check it out if you guys like this sort of thing.

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If you're not into this sort of thing, you know, crazy bike stunts and stuff and dude bro moments.

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And if you like rad, you might like this movie, but this is a lesser rad in my opinion.

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Go check out Winners Take All.

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You got 90 minutes to lose on YouTube.

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But here we are.

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We're going to get to the meat and potatoes of this episode, which is two films in the first etching of Christopher Guest's career.

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He only directed five films, but we had to get that six film in.

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I think you guys know which one I'm talking about because it couldn't happen.

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It wouldn't happen without it.

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Right now, you will hear myself, you will hear Suzanne, you will hear Ricky Morgan and my brother, Jeffrey X Martin, doing This Is Spinal Tap, the OG, the one that started the mockumentary style of Christopher Guest.

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Not talking about Christopher Guest, mind you, but right after, yeah, you will hear the review right now.

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Through two decades, 17 classic albums, countless unforgettable concert triumphs, they changed the face of British rock music forever, and the best part is, they're back.

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Now, they're on the verge of the greatest comeback of all time.

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This is their moment.

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Go right straight through this door here, down the hall.

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Their time has come.

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A little jog there, about 30 feet, jog to the left.

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Heavy metal is deep, it gets stuff out of it.

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My name is Marty DeBurg, I'm a filmmaker.

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One man dares to probe the hidden secrets.

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I was just pointing at it, I...

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Well, don't point, even, don't even point.

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No, it can't be played, never, I mean, why can't I look it up?

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One man dares to hear the shocking answers...

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It's tragic, really.

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He exploded on stage.

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To questions like, is the world really ready for Spinal Tap?

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You put a greased naked woman on all fours with a dog collar around her neck and a leash and pushing a black glove in her face to sniff it.

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You don't find that offensive?

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You don't find that sexist?

193
00:19:14,741 --> 00:19:16,441
Well, you should have seen the cover they wanted to do.

194
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After years of vicious gusset.

195
00:19:30,344 --> 00:19:32,224
I can't prove whose vomit it was.

196
00:19:32,504 --> 00:19:34,304
Years of ugly rumours.

197
00:19:34,644 --> 00:19:35,804
It's a passion day.

198
00:19:35,824 --> 00:19:36,944
This is a fact.

199
00:19:36,964 --> 00:19:38,244
And you are a spinal tarp?

200
00:19:38,404 --> 00:19:39,764
Oh, what's going on here?

201
00:19:40,604 --> 00:19:43,964
Now, the vicious, ugly truth can be told.

202
00:19:46,704 --> 00:19:50,024
Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation.

203
00:19:50,044 --> 00:19:50,264
Thank you.

204
00:20:00,179 --> 00:20:06,899
From the place where eardrums go to die, come the living legends of rock and roll lunacy.

205
00:20:11,799 --> 00:20:16,519
You know, it's like Hemingway said, remember them as they were and write them off.

206
00:20:22,688 --> 00:20:25,748
Yes, we're back with our first review of the night.

207
00:20:26,308 --> 00:20:29,488
And boy, howdy, is it quite a review.

208
00:20:29,508 --> 00:20:36,428
And I'll start that with by saying who's on this review, besides myself, my big ass fucking mouth.

209
00:20:36,888 --> 00:20:38,248
Suzanne's here, how you doing, girl?

210
00:20:38,268 --> 00:20:41,228
Hey, how is everybody tonight?

211
00:20:42,068 --> 00:20:43,488
Excellent, excellent, excellent.

212
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Also with me, the guy you'll hear later on in the show.

213
00:20:48,188 --> 00:20:59,888
And you may know him from Hail Ming, but you may also know him as the guy that sits between the drums, I mean, between the bass player and the guitar player of a band called Midlife Crisis.

214
00:20:59,908 --> 00:21:01,428
If you know that band, you know.

215
00:21:02,748 --> 00:21:04,208
Rick Morgan is here, how you doing, sir?

216
00:21:04,648 --> 00:21:06,388
You know that band, you really need a life.

217
00:21:06,548 --> 00:21:06,928
Do it.

218
00:21:08,008 --> 00:21:10,208
Hey, I'm excited to be here.

219
00:21:10,228 --> 00:21:11,368
Can't wait to talk about Mr.

220
00:21:11,388 --> 00:21:11,788
No-Lives.

221
00:21:12,868 --> 00:21:13,268
Do it.

222
00:21:14,268 --> 00:21:17,348
You look happy behind those drums, is all I'm saying, man, you know.

223
00:21:17,748 --> 00:21:21,448
Oh, man, it's yeah, it's better than most things in life.

224
00:21:22,308 --> 00:21:31,488
And what is the guy said is gonna be, I was very disappointed if he didn't show up, but this is a review that I never intend to do with anybody else.

225
00:21:31,508 --> 00:21:35,488
So he's here, I believe he's a bass player.

226
00:21:35,508 --> 00:21:40,648
He might play it with random accoutrements, not a pick though, or his fingers.

227
00:21:41,408 --> 00:21:41,708
Mr.

228
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Jeffrey X Martin, how you doing, sir?

229
00:21:43,588 --> 00:21:44,488
I'm doing well.

230
00:21:44,508 --> 00:21:50,508
Look, I'd love to hang out and talk with you guys, but I need to go into the lobby and sit for the limousine.

231
00:21:52,748 --> 00:21:53,748
Fucking Hesman.

232
00:21:53,768 --> 00:21:54,228
Liam.

233
00:21:55,828 --> 00:21:56,828
Ian, Ian, yes.

234
00:21:57,928 --> 00:22:01,328
Fucking Hesman, you know, he's in this movie, you know.

235
00:22:01,708 --> 00:22:04,028
God bless Johnny Fever and all of his glory.

236
00:22:04,428 --> 00:22:14,908
But we're here to talk about a very special film that's not directed by one Christopher Guest, but you can't not include it in this Legion Reviews here.

237
00:22:15,688 --> 00:22:28,888
This is Spinal Tap from 1984, what kicked off the Christopher Guest mockumentary train, if you will, directed by Meathead, Rob Reiner and his directorial debut.

238
00:22:30,268 --> 00:22:35,328
The stars, oh man, the stars, some stars, don't have been, gonna do it right now.

239
00:22:35,868 --> 00:22:37,948
Michael McKeon as David St.

240
00:22:37,968 --> 00:22:59,128
Hubbins, Christopher Guest as Nigel Tufnell, Harry Shearer as Derek Smalls, Rob Reiner himself as Martin, Marty DeBurghy, Tony Hendra as Ian Faith, oh, there's so many, RJ Parnell, one of the drummers for Atomic Rooster, for a drummer for Atomic Rooster as Mick Shrimpton.

241
00:22:59,148 --> 00:23:01,228
That sounds weird, Wikipedia, there we go.

242
00:23:01,248 --> 00:23:12,928
Here are some other ones, June Chadwick as Yuriyoko in this group, Janine, Bruno Kirby shows up, Ed Bagley Jr.

243
00:23:12,948 --> 00:23:16,108
shows up as John Stumpy Peppys, you should know that by now, come on now.

244
00:23:16,328 --> 00:23:18,528
It's just, love that shit, man.

245
00:23:18,548 --> 00:23:26,668
Our Mime Waiters, legendary Dana Carvey and One Billy Crystal, you know, because Mime is money, of course.

246
00:23:26,688 --> 00:23:34,988
There's so many names to mention in this cast, Lesley, I'm sure we'll get to most of them, but it's very fun.

247
00:23:36,748 --> 00:23:49,128
If you don't know the story of this, Spinal Tap is a real slash fictional band because they do play their own instruments and they do sing these songs within this movie and within everywhere else.

248
00:23:50,028 --> 00:24:10,348
Are going back on a US tour after six years and they have this filmmaker following with them and they want to promote their album, Smell The Glove, you know, but they're supposedly washed up, but we still like them and whatever, man, they get all kinds of trouble, you know, as the rock bands do.

249
00:24:10,848 --> 00:24:22,868
I'm told my friends who are musicians that parts of this is hard to watch because it's all true, getting lost backstage and stuff and you know.

250
00:24:22,888 --> 00:24:23,828
Hello, Cleveland.

251
00:24:24,148 --> 00:24:24,408
Yeah.

252
00:24:24,428 --> 00:24:33,908
Yeah, but I'll kick it to my brother from Tennessee.

253
00:24:33,928 --> 00:24:35,588
And that's hard to say, they're both in Tennessee.

254
00:24:36,188 --> 00:24:37,508
Let's start with X.

255
00:24:37,528 --> 00:24:38,448
X, what's up, man?

256
00:24:38,828 --> 00:24:39,468
Tell us about it.

257
00:24:39,608 --> 00:25:10,388
I think there's not a whole lot you can say about This Is Spinal Tap that hasn't been said literally hundreds of thousands of times before, but it's one of those rare movies that manages to be a perfect snapshot of the times in which it was created while still escaping those cultural bonds and wacky fashions and haircuts to become this timeless and beloved movie, an actual, and I hate the word, but it's a classic.

258
00:25:10,648 --> 00:25:26,428
And that word is used far too much, but these characters are wonderfully drawn, even if the story, such as it is, revolves around this cliche of somebody getting ticked for their britches and wanting to get out of the band.

259
00:25:26,468 --> 00:25:29,428
I think it's one of the best rock and roll movies ever made.

260
00:25:29,468 --> 00:25:32,388
And I'm a guy who will watch Tommy like three times a week.

261
00:25:33,168 --> 00:25:33,988
And Margaret, baby.

262
00:25:34,328 --> 00:25:37,328
Dude, the baked beans in the long pillow.

263
00:25:43,908 --> 00:25:44,848
It made me a man.

264
00:25:45,728 --> 00:25:49,708
See, if you were someone pre show, you would have got that joke really good that it's nashy.

265
00:25:49,828 --> 00:25:57,368
Oh, you know, but it come to think about it, this is an all Tennessee show, because that's where Suzanne's from, too.

266
00:25:57,448 --> 00:25:58,508
Just throwing it out there.

267
00:25:58,888 --> 00:26:02,868
But I lived I lived in Memphis and I lived in Knoxville.

268
00:26:03,108 --> 00:26:03,448
Yes.

269
00:26:03,528 --> 00:26:06,948
I spent 15 years in Tennessee.

270
00:26:08,628 --> 00:26:10,048
But now let Suzanne go next.

271
00:26:10,068 --> 00:26:10,888
Tell us about Sue.

272
00:26:11,388 --> 00:26:12,068
Oh, my God.

273
00:26:12,568 --> 00:26:17,088
It's funny mentioning the musician thing, since I'm surrounded by musicians.

274
00:26:17,608 --> 00:26:20,388
And my husband was actually a touring musician for a while.

275
00:26:21,068 --> 00:26:25,428
And everything in the movie, you can there are times I can see him cringe.

276
00:26:25,908 --> 00:26:29,688
But this movie, there's a few things I'm going to say.

277
00:26:29,708 --> 00:26:41,408
This is one of the most quotable movies and people will catch it when you say something, you know, it's like, like, hello, Cleveland, hello, Cleveland.

278
00:26:41,908 --> 00:26:43,928
And my favorite is 11.

279
00:26:44,408 --> 00:26:47,568
I swear I will find ways to throw.

280
00:26:47,588 --> 00:26:50,868
Well, it just needs to go to 11, turn it up to 11.

281
00:26:51,168 --> 00:26:52,528
Sometimes I get weird looks.

282
00:26:52,548 --> 00:26:57,468
Most of the time I get somebody like keehawing and knee slapping when I say that.

283
00:26:57,828 --> 00:27:00,488
But there's just certain things in this movie.

284
00:27:00,508 --> 00:27:14,268
I'm just going to try to pinpoint a few little things that I find absolutely hysterical when Nigel is going back doing the the wonderful 80s deep knee bends with the guitar and then falls on his back and has to help getting himself up.

285
00:27:14,948 --> 00:27:22,888
And I was watching my husband play bass one night, and I could tell his knee locked when he was trying to pull one of those poses.

286
00:27:22,908 --> 00:27:25,908
I'm like, oh, shit, here we go again, Nigel.

287
00:27:26,568 --> 00:27:33,268
And the thing is, you know, I mean, there's I go see a lot of bands and I see a specialist in the older guys.

288
00:27:33,508 --> 00:27:39,128
They're kind of struggling physically, trying to do some of the stuff that they did when they were younger.

289
00:27:39,148 --> 00:27:40,808
And they're no longer able.

290
00:27:40,828 --> 00:27:42,608
But that's OK, Nigel did it first.

291
00:27:42,808 --> 00:27:43,488
You're good.

292
00:27:44,168 --> 00:27:51,968
And the whole David and those drawings that Janine did said, we're going in any direction with the bonds.

293
00:27:53,488 --> 00:27:54,568
Well, you're a cancer.

294
00:27:54,968 --> 00:27:57,608
And they're all just looking at this going, really?

295
00:27:57,628 --> 00:27:59,228
Oh, I wish I was a cancer.

296
00:28:02,468 --> 00:28:09,068
But this is just one of those movies that just, I watch it probably far more often than I should.

297
00:28:09,088 --> 00:28:11,048
I could pop this movie in anywhere.

298
00:28:11,068 --> 00:28:16,408
I can start reciting the movie from beginning to end without very much trouble.

299
00:28:16,568 --> 00:28:22,068
And my favorite review is like, shark sandwich, shark sandwich.

300
00:28:22,148 --> 00:28:24,088
Just a two word review, it just says.

301
00:28:24,628 --> 00:28:25,748
That can't be real.

302
00:28:27,168 --> 00:28:29,508
You can't play.

303
00:28:29,528 --> 00:28:31,008
It was an accident.

304
00:28:32,208 --> 00:28:38,828
I just, this movie is just absolutely, it doesn't sound goofy, but it's fucking charming.

305
00:28:38,848 --> 00:28:40,408
It just is.

306
00:28:41,028 --> 00:28:48,348
And there's just, it's just one of those movies that it's, I don't want to say classic, so I'm going to say timeless.

307
00:28:48,728 --> 00:28:55,868
It always has something relevant if you've ever been a fan of music, not the shit that they call music.

308
00:28:55,888 --> 00:28:59,888
No, but you know, real bands, real instruments, real writers.

309
00:29:00,268 --> 00:29:03,668
I know I'm being kind of snobbish, but that's kind of how I feel.

310
00:29:04,048 --> 00:29:06,408
But yeah, this movie is just timeless.

311
00:29:07,208 --> 00:29:07,628
Cool.

312
00:29:07,888 --> 00:29:08,228
Rick?

313
00:29:08,988 --> 00:29:11,788
I have built my life around Spinal Tap.

314
00:29:14,328 --> 00:29:15,108
I really have.

315
00:29:15,348 --> 00:29:18,948
Just like Suzanne was saying, I can pretty much quote this movie from beginning to end.

316
00:29:19,308 --> 00:29:21,228
You know, it's like, how much more black could it be?

317
00:29:21,248 --> 00:29:24,088
You know, it's like, you know, pastel black.

318
00:29:26,728 --> 00:29:29,128
Just everything about it, the impact that it had.

319
00:29:29,148 --> 00:29:32,328
How about the level of just improv that's in this movie?

320
00:29:32,688 --> 00:29:36,908
You can tell that they're just going off and just keeping the film rolling and just seeing what's worth keeping.

321
00:29:37,568 --> 00:29:42,908
That really sets the stage for a lot of the shows that Eugene Livy and all these people come up later on.

322
00:29:42,928 --> 00:29:49,328
Like you said, Christopher Guest kind of helming, you know, the lead and all that kind of stuff and creating that world.

323
00:29:50,128 --> 00:29:54,248
And we have this movie to thank for that because that's really, in my opinion, where it started.

324
00:29:55,308 --> 00:29:58,028
I've wore this movie out, I've wore the soundtrack out.

325
00:29:58,448 --> 00:30:01,148
I've seen them live on the Breaks Like The Wind tour.

326
00:30:01,168 --> 00:30:06,248
I have a Spinal Tap lunchbox.

327
00:30:07,288 --> 00:30:09,828
Break Like The Wind's an underrated album by the way.

328
00:30:09,848 --> 00:30:10,828
Yeah, it is, yeah.

329
00:30:10,848 --> 00:30:14,788
Yeah, and an elephant never forgets, you know.

330
00:30:18,228 --> 00:30:28,768
But yeah, just the songs, I mean, I was in a band and we opened up a show back, we did a one-time gig and we opened the show with Tonight I'm Gonna Rock You.

331
00:30:29,148 --> 00:30:34,568
And there's nothing like standing in front of a bunch of people, you know, and singing, you're sweet, but you're just four feet and you still got your baby teeth.

332
00:30:37,308 --> 00:30:47,388
So, you know, I just, I love everything about this movie and I love all the stories from professional musicians that say, you know, that really happened.

333
00:30:47,408 --> 00:30:49,228
You know, Ozzy didn't think it was funny at all.

334
00:30:49,908 --> 00:31:01,328
You know, and, you know, I hear stories of the drummer for Ronnie James Dio, when the show started, he was inside this pyramid, the pyramid's supposed to raise open and reveal the drum kit.

335
00:31:01,648 --> 00:31:12,828
Well, just like Derek and his pod, it didn't open, so he spent like 45 minutes of the whole gig playing inside this pyramid and nobody ever saw him.

336
00:31:15,108 --> 00:31:18,448
So you just got to love, come on, man, Stonehenge.

337
00:31:18,828 --> 00:31:35,468
I mean, not only Stonehenge the song, but the whole setup of it, the drawing on the napkin, putting inches instead of feet, you know, the druids coming out dancing, the conversation afterwards where Derek goes, well, maybe we should just move it.

338
00:31:35,788 --> 00:31:36,448
What do you mean?

339
00:31:36,788 --> 00:31:38,048
So they shunt trot upon it.

340
00:31:40,568 --> 00:31:41,868
I don't think the problem was...

341
00:31:41,888 --> 00:31:46,008
Oh, man, it's just so great.

342
00:31:46,088 --> 00:31:50,488
If I told him once, I told him a thousand times to put Spout-A-Tap first and then Puppet Show.

343
00:31:52,408 --> 00:31:59,968
You know, when I was back in the early aughts, I used to play in an acoustic band, and when it came time to ask for tips, we would play Give Me Some Money.

344
00:32:00,268 --> 00:32:00,828
Oh, yeah.

345
00:32:01,148 --> 00:32:03,448
Yeah, it didn't work, but we did it.

346
00:32:05,148 --> 00:32:08,848
Oh, I sing Big Bottom all the time and Sex Farm.

347
00:32:08,868 --> 00:32:10,368
Nice, nice.

348
00:32:10,408 --> 00:32:12,088
It's just, you know, you gotta.

349
00:32:13,328 --> 00:32:15,428
No, I always find myself humming Hellhole.

350
00:32:15,728 --> 00:32:16,228
Oh, yeah.

351
00:32:16,548 --> 00:32:21,648
You know, where you're standing in a hellhole.

352
00:32:22,188 --> 00:32:34,648
Oh, man, this whole the whole mockumentary thing is such an interesting sub genre to me because we talked about this briefly at the beginning, but this is not a Christopher Guest movie.

353
00:32:34,668 --> 00:32:45,088
This is a Rob Reiner flick, but this feels so much like the rest of Christopher Guest's filmography that it's easy to forget that he did direct it.

354
00:32:46,268 --> 00:32:53,668
It gets more obfuscated by the fact that Guest was in Reiner's arguably most popular movie, The Princess Bride.

355
00:32:54,068 --> 00:33:03,828
There's some creative synergy between the two, but hardly anybody thinks about what I think is the first mockumentary and that's Real Life by Albert Brooks.

356
00:33:04,928 --> 00:33:15,108
Brooks' movie does this great flip around in the third act and becomes more about the filmmaker than the family that's supposed to be the subject of the film.

357
00:33:15,428 --> 00:33:16,208
It's a great movie.

358
00:33:16,228 --> 00:33:31,208
I'm going to go ahead and highly recommend that, but Guest may not have invented the mockumentary as some people believe, but I do think that he perfected and established the genre as a capital T thing.

359
00:33:31,288 --> 00:33:32,608
Yeah, without a doubt.

360
00:33:33,368 --> 00:33:35,188
We watch Waiting For Guffman a lot.

361
00:33:35,208 --> 00:33:40,948
I'm going to go home and bite my pillow.

362
00:33:46,108 --> 00:33:47,708
Yeah, so many great bits in this movie.

363
00:33:47,728 --> 00:33:52,388
I mean, we've seen highlights of them all over.

364
00:33:52,808 --> 00:34:04,288
You know, I love the 70s documentaries, stuff like that, you know, and it's well deserved, you know, in that because there's very funny stuff there and stuff that's really funny.

365
00:34:04,308 --> 00:34:05,048
I think it's very organic.

366
00:34:07,588 --> 00:34:15,788
We got in credit scenes in these different films now, but they have through credit scenes, which I take it are outtakes in this movie.

367
00:34:15,808 --> 00:34:29,568
And one of the things that makes you laugh the hardest of some of the smallest things, like when David's talking about these these books on tape that he's getting in the mail, you know, this one from Dr.

368
00:34:29,588 --> 00:34:29,768
J.

369
00:34:29,788 --> 00:34:31,048
Yeah, that's Julius.

370
00:34:31,068 --> 00:34:36,768
Oh, let's say they keep going then with the thing.

371
00:34:36,788 --> 00:34:47,148
I find kind of funny because, you know, they have that those same two groupies and the Cole Sword travels from band member to band member.

372
00:34:48,668 --> 00:34:50,928
The first probably five times they didn't realize it.

373
00:34:50,948 --> 00:34:55,048
And all of a sudden it's like, oh, my God, that's funny as hell.

374
00:34:55,288 --> 00:34:57,528
Such a fine line between clever and stupid.

375
00:34:59,668 --> 00:35:01,588
Did you see Duke fame's album cover?

376
00:35:01,608 --> 00:35:04,928
I mean, you know, he's like laying there tied down and they're like knocking all over him.

377
00:35:05,248 --> 00:35:06,608
It's no worse than smell the glove.

378
00:35:06,788 --> 00:35:08,908
What's wrong with being sexy?

379
00:35:08,948 --> 00:35:10,368
What's wrong with being sexy?

380
00:35:13,568 --> 00:35:15,768
Yeah, Fran Drescher is still looking.

381
00:35:16,048 --> 00:35:17,228
She still looks great today.

382
00:35:17,248 --> 00:35:26,228
But yeah, seeing a young Fran Drescher, you know, pre pre what most know her is now is, you know, the whiny Fran Drescher nanny character.

383
00:35:26,248 --> 00:35:29,208
It just it's it's always nice to see that.

384
00:35:29,228 --> 00:35:32,788
And Patrick McNeese shows up this movie for no reason.

385
00:35:32,808 --> 00:35:34,648
Sir Dennis Eaton Hogg.

386
00:35:36,848 --> 00:35:38,388
Tap into America.

387
00:35:39,368 --> 00:35:40,548
So fucking random.

388
00:35:40,568 --> 00:35:41,408
Paul Schaeffer.

389
00:35:42,268 --> 00:35:42,588
Yeah.

390
00:35:42,928 --> 00:35:44,448
Artie Thufkin, Palmer Records.

391
00:35:44,468 --> 00:35:45,868
Artie Thufkin, Palmer Records.

392
00:35:46,388 --> 00:35:47,248
Kick this ass.

393
00:35:47,348 --> 00:35:48,128
Kick this ass.

394
00:35:53,908 --> 00:36:00,768
The point where we're where Nigel Leibs and they have to come up with some new shit.

395
00:36:00,968 --> 00:36:06,008
So Derek decides to go back into jazz fusion again and they do it at the show.

396
00:36:07,308 --> 00:36:07,908
On bass.

397
00:36:08,188 --> 00:36:09,108
Dick Smolls.

398
00:36:09,308 --> 00:36:10,208
He wrote this.

399
00:36:10,348 --> 00:36:11,048
He wrote this.

400
00:36:12,208 --> 00:36:17,568
Just throw them on the fucking bus and they can't sit there in the audience just giving them a thumbs down.

401
00:36:20,548 --> 00:36:28,428
That's one of the things I love about this movie is rock and roll movies are hard because they get cloying so fast.

402
00:36:28,808 --> 00:36:37,808
One of the things that makes spinal tap endearing is that it incorporates all of those great rock and roll tropes without really beating you over the head with them.

403
00:36:38,088 --> 00:36:43,588
Like for such a broad parody, spinal tap really shines when it is subtle.

404
00:36:43,608 --> 00:36:45,228
Like fucking David St.

405
00:36:45,248 --> 00:37:01,728
Hubbard's awful girlfriend comes in and basically breaks up the band all up, Yoko Ono, and there's all that satanic panic heavy metal imagery from the 80s, that giant horned skull that dominates the live stage presentation.

406
00:37:02,128 --> 00:37:10,568
And like we talked about before, that, oh my god, that dopey mystical overtone in Stone Head is just fucking hilarious.

407
00:37:10,948 --> 00:37:12,708
But it's also on the nose.

408
00:37:12,908 --> 00:37:21,888
And there's little areas that are just ripe for comic abuse, but it's all handled in this deadpan way that makes it even funnier.

409
00:37:22,328 --> 00:37:26,928
No one knows who they were, or what they were doing.

410
00:37:28,668 --> 00:37:30,668
The little cheering of Stonehenge.

411
00:37:30,808 --> 00:37:35,528
Stonehenge.

412
00:37:35,548 --> 00:37:47,628
No, I would like to think that they didn't see that until the scene happened, because the general gas on their face, like they're way much larger than the small thing that comes down.

413
00:37:47,648 --> 00:37:56,568
It's like, you're away, like, yeah, they seem genuinely amused by what was going on until it happened and the little people come out, it's fucking magical.

414
00:37:57,268 --> 00:38:01,908
When we saw them live, they had a FedEx guy come out with an envelope and David St.

415
00:38:01,928 --> 00:38:03,588
Hubbins opened it up and it was even smaller.

416
00:38:08,208 --> 00:38:17,648
And I will say when the show opened, they started with Tonight I'm Gonna Rock You and they came down from the ceiling, but I suspended and David came down, he's, you know, their own wires and he lands on the ground, walks up the mic, starts singing.

417
00:38:18,048 --> 00:38:22,448
And then Derek comes down and his feet are like three inches from the floor.

418
00:38:22,688 --> 00:38:29,088
So he's just swinging and he's doing tiptoes to get some momentum so he can swing by the mic and sing backups.

419
00:38:33,148 --> 00:38:46,088
He's coming down halfway and it just locks up and he's just stuck up there the whole time and of course they got a guy on the side of the stage that's working these levers and of course now just flipping him off and, you know, trying to get down and it's great.

420
00:38:47,008 --> 00:38:51,148
So this is a panel show, so let me ask, who is your favorite member of Spinal Tap?

421
00:38:51,388 --> 00:38:52,168
Derek.

422
00:38:52,548 --> 00:38:55,808
I didn't understand anything, anybody, I just heard blah, blah, blah.

423
00:38:57,588 --> 00:38:58,248
That's my favorite.

424
00:38:58,808 --> 00:38:59,188
Yes.

425
00:38:59,768 --> 00:39:01,548
Ricky, blah, blah is your favorite.

426
00:39:01,568 --> 00:39:02,588
Tell us, Ricky, you know.

427
00:39:03,128 --> 00:39:05,068
I have to go with Derek for some reason.

428
00:39:06,068 --> 00:39:19,328
Just because he's kind of the silent character, but at the same time, I mean, the whole, you know, aluminum-full situation, the preserved moose, the smoking the pipe, the spandex with the...

429
00:39:19,528 --> 00:39:25,208
It's definitely not a cucumber at that point, but whatever he's got down his pants during Big Bottom, it's just hilarious.

430
00:39:25,328 --> 00:39:28,088
I mean, let's face it, he is modeled.

431
00:39:28,108 --> 00:39:31,848
He's got to be modeled after the bass player from Triumph.

432
00:39:33,288 --> 00:39:33,548
Yes.

433
00:39:34,828 --> 00:39:36,168
It looks just like Mike Luzin.

434
00:39:36,768 --> 00:39:37,828
It looks just like him.

435
00:39:38,268 --> 00:39:44,008
And just his, he's trying to be the cool one in the band as far as, you know, just like, well, maybe we should just move it away.

436
00:39:44,028 --> 00:39:45,188
So they shot Trot upon it.

437
00:39:45,208 --> 00:39:49,968
He's trying to be the reasonable one in this real awkward rock and roll situation.

438
00:39:49,988 --> 00:39:56,508
And it's just that personality thing because the other two act like you expect rock guys to act.

439
00:39:56,628 --> 00:39:57,428
He really doesn't.

440
00:39:58,268 --> 00:39:59,628
So we're not doing Stonehenge?

441
00:39:59,688 --> 00:40:01,428
No, we're not fucking doing Stonehenge.

442
00:40:01,448 --> 00:40:05,008
It brings up a very interesting question at this point.

443
00:40:06,168 --> 00:40:07,068
See, I'm with Rick.

444
00:40:07,208 --> 00:40:07,808
I'm with Rick.

445
00:40:07,828 --> 00:40:09,008
I'm a Derek Smalls guy.

446
00:40:09,028 --> 00:40:15,608
I think Harry Shearer is just hilarious there and he tries so hard to keep the peace between Tuffnell and St.

447
00:40:15,628 --> 00:40:16,908
Hubbins.

448
00:40:16,908 --> 00:40:21,128
But he's still trying to keep his more artistic aspirations in play.

449
00:40:21,148 --> 00:40:23,468
I mean, he smokes that posh pipe.

450
00:40:23,488 --> 00:40:28,108
He's got that luxurious mustache that Triple H later had.

451
00:40:28,508 --> 00:40:34,688
And then he's got, he tries to introduce progressive jazz music into the band's repertoire.

452
00:40:34,948 --> 00:40:40,928
And that is never, never a good idea because that's usually the death knell for a rock band.

453
00:40:40,948 --> 00:40:46,288
That's kind of like when a horror franchise decides the next chapter of the saga should take place in outer space.

454
00:40:47,088 --> 00:40:59,268
But I have to say that scene where Nigel Tuffnell does the solo and he plays the guitar with an actual violin, that is one of the funniest rock and roll movie bits I've ever seen.

455
00:41:00,468 --> 00:41:02,428
The fact that he stops and tunes the violin.

456
00:41:05,968 --> 00:41:12,008
I'm missing one of my favorite points when Nigel has left and they're talking, well, we could do that.

457
00:41:12,028 --> 00:41:15,728
We were doing a rock musical based on Jack the Ripper.

458
00:41:16,708 --> 00:41:17,668
Saucy Jack.

459
00:41:22,908 --> 00:41:33,248
No, I like Nigel and honestly, just a few little things, he gets all D, he's playing D minor, the status of all chords.

460
00:41:33,488 --> 00:41:35,588
And it's called Lick My Love Pump.

461
00:41:35,588 --> 00:41:36,148
Great.

462
00:41:36,408 --> 00:41:40,428
You know, I'm heavily influenced by Mozart and Bach, this is kind of a Mark piece, you know.

463
00:41:43,348 --> 00:41:47,908
And me, I also will obsess on some of the most ridiculous things.

464
00:41:48,588 --> 00:41:53,648
And the little bread, the way he's folded it like that, it doesn't fold that way.

465
00:41:54,528 --> 00:41:56,788
And then you got this, I mean, would you be holding this?

466
00:41:57,128 --> 00:41:59,008
And look in here, who's in this one?

467
00:41:59,028 --> 00:41:59,808
Little guys in here.

468
00:41:59,828 --> 00:42:00,328
Who's in this one?

469
00:42:00,348 --> 00:42:00,788
No one.

470
00:42:04,648 --> 00:42:06,728
I'm a professional, I'll rise above.

471
00:42:15,588 --> 00:42:16,948
Definitely all got their parts, man.

472
00:42:16,968 --> 00:42:26,868
I mean, but again, they're playing bass in that pod when it's closed up and the guy's banging on it with a hammer and he just burn it up, man, playing this really cool bass solo in the middle of that song.

473
00:42:29,068 --> 00:42:31,488
You got to give him credit, man.

474
00:42:33,108 --> 00:42:37,508
Probably David, because he's just so oblivious to everything.

475
00:42:37,528 --> 00:42:40,248
It's quite spectacular.

476
00:42:40,268 --> 00:42:45,868
I love them all, but that's probably the one that I would choose out of all these people.

477
00:42:45,888 --> 00:42:57,928
I think it's very important to say that these guys are legit musicians and the music in the film has has transcended generations because you can go play a rock band.

478
00:42:57,948 --> 00:42:59,048
I forget which one it is.

479
00:42:59,548 --> 00:43:01,628
And there's two tap songs on rock band.

480
00:43:01,648 --> 00:43:03,168
I think it's Rock Band 3.

481
00:43:03,188 --> 00:43:03,808
I think it is.

482
00:43:04,488 --> 00:43:08,828
We've owned it and I've played it poorly because I'm shit at that game.

483
00:43:08,848 --> 00:43:15,068
Tonight I'm going to rock you with for sure is on rock band.

484
00:43:16,028 --> 00:43:21,928
So people, you know, younger people are playing these songs, probably not knowing what the fuck they are.

485
00:43:22,728 --> 00:43:23,708
But you know what?

486
00:43:24,568 --> 00:43:26,508
They're hitting it and I'm glad it's out there.

487
00:43:26,528 --> 00:43:27,488
Let's put it that way.

488
00:43:27,508 --> 00:43:31,028
Ying was searching for his gang.

489
00:43:33,328 --> 00:43:35,168
The goddamn the drummer thing.

490
00:43:35,308 --> 00:43:39,428
I brought this up where I sort of announced Ricky was going to be on this review.

491
00:43:39,448 --> 00:43:44,768
I was like, yeah, he'll make it if he survives his last gig.

492
00:43:45,348 --> 00:43:50,128
Well, the gag in this film is that every every Spinal Tap drummer has had a horrible accident.

493
00:43:51,588 --> 00:43:53,828
So gardening accident.

494
00:43:54,228 --> 00:44:05,208
You can't really just for vomit spontaneous combustion lilies as they say, just a flash of green light, a glob, a globule on the stage.

495
00:44:07,868 --> 00:44:22,248
It's more like a state, really, you know, the time to say that the guy who plays spinal taps, final drummer, Joe Mama Besser, it's a guy named Fred Asparagus, and he's the same guy who played the bartender in Three Amigos.

496
00:44:23,208 --> 00:44:23,668
Nice.

497
00:44:24,288 --> 00:44:28,368
And he was also in Tearing The Owls.

498
00:44:28,488 --> 00:44:32,168
He's the guy sitting there in the theater and he goes, Hey, how did they do that?

499
00:44:32,628 --> 00:44:33,608
Exactly.

500
00:44:33,668 --> 00:44:34,488
That's the guy.

501
00:44:34,688 --> 00:44:34,968
Yeah.

502
00:44:34,988 --> 00:44:37,288
And that's something probably no one cares about, but me.

503
00:44:37,308 --> 00:44:40,568
So, okay, no, I care about that greatly because you know why?

504
00:44:42,588 --> 00:44:44,148
That's why I care about that, you know.

505
00:44:44,168 --> 00:44:46,968
It's like a beer.

506
00:44:50,848 --> 00:44:53,088
I was watching the credits because you got to watch the credits.

507
00:44:53,788 --> 00:45:00,548
I noticed that that Joyce Heiser, who you may not know her name, but it's the first fair tits I've ever seen in a film.

508
00:45:01,928 --> 00:45:03,408
Thank you, just one of the guys.

509
00:45:03,428 --> 00:45:05,528
It shows up in this movie as one of the groupies.

510
00:45:05,748 --> 00:45:11,688
And that's something for me to ponder on and to look for, you know.

511
00:45:13,548 --> 00:45:16,248
She's fairly recognizable, though.

512
00:45:17,768 --> 00:45:20,488
Again, it's the same first pair of tits I've ever seen, Suzanne.

513
00:45:20,508 --> 00:45:21,428
I got to look for it now.

514
00:45:21,568 --> 00:45:23,308
It's very important stuff as a young man.

515
00:45:23,328 --> 00:45:26,828
Yeah, I mean, you never forget your first nipples.

516
00:45:28,268 --> 00:45:29,408
You could barely see them nipples.

517
00:45:30,728 --> 00:45:32,488
These guys are really looking, too.

518
00:45:32,808 --> 00:45:35,768
Come on, you know.

519
00:45:36,468 --> 00:45:37,208
Oh, God.

520
00:45:37,408 --> 00:45:53,068
Have you guys seen the lost footage, I guess, that they put back in for some of the DVDs and stuff where when Nigel leaves, they then she, you know, David's girlfriend brings in an ex-boyfriend to be the next guitar player and singer, and it's Paul Shortino, who's really a really good singer.

521
00:45:53,088 --> 00:45:54,428
Have you seen any of that stuff?

522
00:45:54,448 --> 00:45:54,828
No.

523
00:45:58,708 --> 00:46:00,888
It's on the Studio Canal version that I've got.

524
00:46:00,948 --> 00:46:02,888
Oh, shit.

525
00:46:03,828 --> 00:46:13,668
It's got quite a bit of extra stuff that was cut out, but they bring this other guy in and he's a hotshot and he kind of starts stealing the show and the crowd loves him and they end up firing him because he's too good, you know.

526
00:46:17,708 --> 00:46:18,128
Yeah.

527
00:46:18,408 --> 00:46:24,468
I mean, it's really hard to review comedy like this, but, you know, there's so many bits that I've seen.

528
00:46:25,088 --> 00:46:29,768
You know, me and Suzanne frequently mention quite a bit and there's that table that nobody's at.

529
00:46:30,208 --> 00:46:42,648
And when they have their record store appearance and they had that look of boredom on their face and disappointment, I've seen that many, many times and I've gone to that table before just to talk to this person and, you know.

530
00:46:42,668 --> 00:46:56,268
But even sometimes when you go up and talk to them and you're genuinely DB Sweeney, I'm talking to you, really excited to meet them and they still have this bored demeanor of like, oh yeah, fucker.

531
00:46:56,648 --> 00:46:56,968
Yeah.

532
00:46:56,988 --> 00:46:57,448
Damn.

533
00:46:57,888 --> 00:46:59,848
She had this experience with David Doughton too.

534
00:46:59,868 --> 00:47:02,448
I didn't have that experience with David Doughton.

535
00:47:02,728 --> 00:47:06,348
He once again, there was no line, no weight, nobody.

536
00:47:07,008 --> 00:47:09,268
And he barely would speak three words to me.

537
00:47:11,928 --> 00:47:18,308
You know, you get that size and of course, you know, they should be the same, but come on, man.

538
00:47:18,328 --> 00:47:21,568
At a lot of these conventions, you get some wackos that come up and drive them insane.

539
00:47:21,588 --> 00:47:22,408
It's kind of like Savini.

540
00:47:22,708 --> 00:47:26,288
Savini, you hear horror stories of, well, you don't know who you're going to get.

541
00:47:26,348 --> 00:47:27,928
I've been around him when he was super nice.

542
00:47:27,948 --> 00:47:29,968
I've been around him when he was anything but nice.

543
00:47:30,608 --> 00:47:38,048
But at the same time, you got all these, you know, lunatics that are super fans like my buddy David, and they will absolutely drive you up a wall.

544
00:47:38,068 --> 00:47:41,028
So, you know, I can get it, you know.

545
00:47:41,848 --> 00:47:45,128
I mean, but I only had a couple of those.

546
00:47:45,628 --> 00:47:52,908
In most of the experiences I've had, everybody is really, really, you know, nice, happy to talk about movies.

547
00:47:52,928 --> 00:47:55,128
We'll share a couple of stories with you.

548
00:47:55,508 --> 00:47:55,888
Right.

549
00:47:56,568 --> 00:48:06,348
And, you know, I super lucked out one of my childhood posters on my wall, Dirk Benedict, was an absolute fucking doll.

550
00:48:07,068 --> 00:48:08,108
John Cusack.

551
00:48:09,468 --> 00:48:09,888
No.

552
00:48:13,408 --> 00:48:14,668
We don't talk about Cusack.

553
00:48:17,988 --> 00:48:19,508
The nicest we met.

554
00:48:19,528 --> 00:48:22,608
Be civil to the people spending that kind of money.

555
00:48:22,628 --> 00:48:24,688
You need to take your bitch home.

556
00:48:24,928 --> 00:48:26,388
Hey, we were talking about Cusack.

557
00:48:28,988 --> 00:48:31,368
Yeah, we should.

558
00:48:31,588 --> 00:48:41,588
Speaking of which, Danny and I just went to the horror event that they had there in Nashville and Billy Zane was there and he was charging like 80 bucks for an autograph.

559
00:48:41,948 --> 00:48:43,968
Wow, he was 40 bucks here.

560
00:48:43,988 --> 00:48:44,928
I know.

561
00:48:45,068 --> 00:48:46,808
And I was like, you know, we love you.

562
00:48:46,828 --> 00:48:48,948
We love you, Billy, but not that much.

563
00:48:49,708 --> 00:48:52,968
You better be judging a dance-off for 80 bucks.

564
00:48:54,708 --> 00:48:57,668
He is a charismatic motherfucker though, aside from that.

565
00:48:57,688 --> 00:48:58,268
He is, man.

566
00:48:58,328 --> 00:49:02,188
I mean, he's cool as crap standing over there, man.

567
00:49:02,208 --> 00:49:05,568
You can get drawn in, but 80 bucks, man, that's hard to part with.

568
00:49:05,588 --> 00:49:07,228
Yep, it is.

569
00:49:07,588 --> 00:49:14,888
And I think I told Gary, two feet away from John Hughes, I'm like, wow, I could have said 80 bucks on fire and had more fun with it.

570
00:49:14,988 --> 00:49:15,608
That's right.

571
00:49:16,088 --> 00:49:21,988
Now, Danny got to meet, oh man, Diane from Better Off Dead.

572
00:49:22,008 --> 00:49:23,108
Diane Franklin, yes.

573
00:49:23,288 --> 00:49:23,868
Franklin.

574
00:49:24,148 --> 00:49:26,468
I've never seen Danny get starstruck before.

575
00:49:26,488 --> 00:49:27,508
She's a lovely woman.

576
00:49:27,868 --> 00:49:28,528
Very lovely.

577
00:49:28,548 --> 00:49:29,668
She was starstruck.

578
00:49:30,068 --> 00:49:33,028
She even let him wear the jacket she wore in Better Off Dead.

579
00:49:33,648 --> 00:49:34,288
She brings it with her.

580
00:49:37,248 --> 00:49:43,608
Yeah, you mentioned, you know, releases, you mentioned that, that, that, what do you call it?

581
00:49:43,628 --> 00:49:44,488
There we go.

582
00:49:44,908 --> 00:49:46,048
Studio Canal release.

583
00:49:47,608 --> 00:49:49,948
Apparently, they got fucked out of money on that deal.

584
00:49:50,548 --> 00:49:56,548
They got $179 in sales from Merchandising Music over the prior three decades.

585
00:49:58,188 --> 00:50:10,568
Harry Shearer sued for $125 million because, you know, much like this and much like A Mighty Wind, you know, words of music by these guys and they deserve better than that.

586
00:50:10,748 --> 00:50:13,268
You know?

587
00:50:13,628 --> 00:50:14,088
Wow.

588
00:50:14,928 --> 00:50:21,508
Yeah, I don't know a whole lot more we could say about this one without giving away the whole goddamn thing if you haven't seen it before.

589
00:50:22,228 --> 00:50:25,328
But if you haven't seen Spinal Tap, for fuck's sake, come on.

590
00:50:25,408 --> 00:50:25,668
Yeah.

591
00:50:25,728 --> 00:50:28,668
If you haven't seen this Spinal Tap, it's made a lot of lists.

592
00:50:29,288 --> 00:50:44,108
It's made a lot of documentaries and it's all fucking well deserved in so many ways because every time I watch it, like I watch this and I watch Best in Show today for a review upcoming in the week and I said, do I need to watch it again?

593
00:50:44,188 --> 00:50:49,148
But I'll watch them again for the 25th fucking time because I want to, you know.

594
00:50:49,508 --> 00:50:54,828
You guys seen Heavy Metal Memories, the greatest hits Spinal Tap album commercial?

595
00:50:56,868 --> 00:50:58,208
Blackie Lawless is in it.

596
00:51:00,068 --> 00:51:04,628
Back when he was nobody because it was made back when they made the movie and it's like a greatest hits album.

597
00:51:04,648 --> 00:51:08,268
It's called Heavy Metal Memories and it's got pretty much every song from the soundtrack on there.

598
00:51:08,528 --> 00:51:14,508
But they make it look like one of those K-Tale commercials where people are walking in the sand in the beach, but they're playing Sex Farm.

599
00:51:18,728 --> 00:51:25,088
Listen, what the flower people say, people say, yeah.

600
00:51:25,888 --> 00:51:26,768
Yeah, I need a dick.

601
00:51:26,788 --> 00:51:27,728
That's probably on YouTube.

602
00:51:27,748 --> 00:51:28,368
You can find that.

603
00:51:28,388 --> 00:51:34,428
Fucking C-Tar Solo and that freaking song just tripping out, the screens spinning.

604
00:51:34,448 --> 00:51:35,228
I can't say it.

605
00:51:35,248 --> 00:51:36,248
There's so many things.

606
00:51:37,768 --> 00:51:38,068
Yes.

607
00:51:38,428 --> 00:51:41,208
What about Derrick Smiles going, wait a minute.

608
00:51:41,228 --> 00:51:42,948
Yes, that's part of the whole thing, yes.

609
00:51:45,408 --> 00:51:46,128
Here's the thing.

610
00:51:46,308 --> 00:52:19,248
You can tell that Spinal Tap is a classic by the way that it got incorporated into other pieces of entertainment like SNL skits, commercials, just little bits here and there, but I have to say that my favorite Spinal Tap thing is based on a relatively short bit in the movie where Spinal Tap is playing Cleveland and they get lost in the hall and they can't find their way to the stage and they keep running into the same guy who's like working on pipes or something back there, but they can't find their way to the actual stage.

611
00:52:19,668 --> 00:52:44,788
1998, the WCW Fall Brawl, Chris Jericho did a spot where he got lost on the way to the ring before a match with Bill Goldberg and he's walking around backstage yelling, rock and roll and hello Winston Salem and at one point he opens a set of crash doors that leads outside and he knows he's just fucked everything up and it's just, it is hilarious.

612
00:52:44,788 --> 00:53:03,628
It's one of the most clever pieces of business I've seen in a wrestling show, probably one of the funniest things Jericho ever did and he's an entertaining guy to begin with, but that's how you know that your movie has made it when other people will take it and incorporate it into their own spots.

613
00:53:04,428 --> 00:53:06,768
How about Metallica doing the black album?

614
00:53:06,928 --> 00:53:07,748
I mean, come on.

615
00:53:07,968 --> 00:53:08,848
Precisely.

616
00:53:08,988 --> 00:53:13,348
They literally just did Spinal Tap and they just made the album a black cover.

617
00:53:13,508 --> 00:53:16,948
There's like a tiny little snake in the corridor of it and that was it.

618
00:53:17,248 --> 00:53:20,028
But I mean, they even said, yeah, it's, you know, Spinal Tap.

619
00:53:25,148 --> 00:53:31,648
I mean, without Spinal Tap, there will be no death clock and I think it'd be a lesser world for it.

620
00:53:31,708 --> 00:53:36,068
You know, and if you don't, death clock is they there the subject of, huh?

621
00:53:36,428 --> 00:53:38,348
Meet up at the Electric Banana Club.

622
00:53:38,508 --> 00:53:40,628
It may not be there, but I'm sure we'll find it.

623
00:53:40,888 --> 00:53:48,648
If you don't know who Death Clock is, they are the subject of a cartoon show called Metal Aucalypse, which is basically the death metal version of Spinal Tap.

624
00:53:50,008 --> 00:53:51,048
Release the Kitties.

625
00:53:52,168 --> 00:53:53,968
Man, that's so good.

626
00:53:54,268 --> 00:53:55,868
There's also a music video for Hail Hole.

627
00:53:55,888 --> 00:53:57,488
I don't know if you have seen that or not either.

628
00:53:57,508 --> 00:54:00,228
So they're in the swimming pool.

629
00:54:00,248 --> 00:54:04,368
I actually requested it so much.

630
00:54:04,388 --> 00:54:07,448
Hail Hole is on the touch tunes at work.

631
00:54:08,068 --> 00:54:10,208
I usually go for Christmas With The Devil.

632
00:54:10,288 --> 00:54:14,108
I use it, you know, after Thanksgiving.

633
00:54:14,688 --> 00:54:17,848
How many times have you heard Pat play Christmas With The Devil, Gary?

634
00:54:18,348 --> 00:54:18,868
Zero.

635
00:54:19,768 --> 00:54:20,188
Really?

636
00:54:20,208 --> 00:54:22,268
You've been around our house around Christmas time.

637
00:54:22,648 --> 00:54:27,148
No, the second day after Thanksgiving, I pull out Christmas In Hollis.

638
00:54:27,328 --> 00:54:28,948
He pulls out Christmas With The Devil.

639
00:54:29,908 --> 00:54:30,328
Yeah.

640
00:54:30,568 --> 00:54:31,408
Two awesome ones.

641
00:54:31,628 --> 00:54:33,648
It's on our holiday playlist for sure.

642
00:54:34,488 --> 00:54:35,168
Man, oh man.

643
00:54:35,908 --> 00:54:40,948
We're going to really hit the the wrap up button here and I'm going to kick it back to Ricky again.

644
00:54:40,968 --> 00:54:42,328
Can I say one more thing?

645
00:54:42,348 --> 00:54:42,828
You can.

646
00:54:42,908 --> 00:54:43,408
I will get.

647
00:54:43,408 --> 00:54:43,908
I will.

648
00:54:46,808 --> 00:54:50,348
Okay, X first then, because he's fucking being fucking demanding with my ass right now.

649
00:54:50,368 --> 00:54:51,668
Come on, go for it.

650
00:54:51,688 --> 00:54:52,528
I'm a shitfuck.

651
00:54:52,548 --> 00:54:53,928
And just one more thing real quick.

652
00:54:54,308 --> 00:54:58,728
Spinal type in the very beginning of the movie is described as one of England's loudest bands.

653
00:54:58,948 --> 00:55:11,088
But at that time, the actual loudest band in the world was The Who that cranked out 126 decibels at a 1976 show in London, which is stupid loud and no wonder Pete Soundin is deaf.

654
00:55:11,248 --> 00:55:13,228
So go ahead and do your thing now.

655
00:55:13,248 --> 00:55:15,488
I'll be quiet.

656
00:55:15,888 --> 00:55:16,788
Such a bitch.

657
00:55:16,828 --> 00:55:17,768
Listen to him, man.

658
00:55:17,788 --> 00:55:19,248
You know, that was great.

659
00:55:19,428 --> 00:55:20,748
Now, Ricky, it's your turn.

660
00:55:20,768 --> 00:55:22,388
What else did you say about the film?

661
00:55:22,548 --> 00:55:23,288
And what do you give it?

662
00:55:23,508 --> 00:55:35,168
One, two, eleven Well, first of all, to go with what X just said, they were actually handing out little packets of earplugs at the concert that said, Spinal Tap World's Loudest Band.

663
00:55:36,288 --> 00:55:37,728
Wear for your own protection.

664
00:55:39,708 --> 00:55:42,328
But yeah, again, I've already said it.

665
00:55:42,568 --> 00:55:45,208
My life is built around Spinal Tap.

666
00:55:45,508 --> 00:55:50,168
I have many great friends that are great friends because we love Spinal Tap so much.

667
00:55:50,188 --> 00:55:51,768
And that's all you got to do to be a friend of mine.

668
00:55:52,568 --> 00:55:55,188
That's pretty much it.

669
00:55:55,448 --> 00:55:58,648
So there's there's not enough things I can say about it.

670
00:55:58,668 --> 00:55:59,908
I just absolutely love it.

671
00:55:59,928 --> 00:56:02,008
And of course, it's going to 11.

672
00:56:02,108 --> 00:56:11,468
And you can't play because if you wife or whatever, whatever the fuck she is, Suzanne, I keep trying to think of more to say.

673
00:56:11,648 --> 00:56:13,268
And there's plenty.

674
00:56:13,668 --> 00:56:18,188
But yeah, this is this film is pretty much perfection.

675
00:56:18,608 --> 00:56:24,648
The just the banter, the interactions, everything that Reiner did.

676
00:56:24,668 --> 00:56:27,888
Like I said, we'll all meet up at the Electric Banana one day.

677
00:56:27,908 --> 00:56:29,968
I love this movie.

678
00:56:30,068 --> 00:56:30,968
It is straight up.

679
00:56:31,348 --> 00:56:32,328
It's one better.

680
00:56:32,448 --> 00:56:33,148
It's 11.

681
00:56:34,368 --> 00:56:34,768
Cool.

682
00:56:35,248 --> 00:56:36,208
Jeffrey X Martin.

683
00:56:36,328 --> 00:56:39,648
It's been too much fucking perspective there, Suzanne.

684
00:56:40,488 --> 00:56:52,008
I think within the context of this series of shows, this is Spinal Tap is interesting because this is where you kind of see the genesis of Christopher Guest's directorial career.

685
00:56:52,328 --> 00:57:00,948
The style of the mockumentaries that he would make later are really influenced by Reiner's style, if not a full-fledged aping of it.

686
00:57:01,468 --> 00:57:04,088
And this is where Guest put together his core performers.

687
00:57:04,108 --> 00:57:05,148
Michael McKean's here.

688
00:57:05,468 --> 00:57:06,788
Fred Willard shows up.

689
00:57:07,368 --> 00:57:09,628
Harry Shearer is here and he's in A Mighty Wind.

690
00:57:10,028 --> 00:57:17,868
So, it's not technically a Christopher Guest movie, but it might be the most important movie in his entire career.

691
00:57:17,948 --> 00:57:23,808
And with that, I will agree with everyone else and say that Spinal Tap is an 11 out of 10.

692
00:57:23,828 --> 00:57:25,028
I'm not proud of that.

693
00:57:25,308 --> 00:57:28,708
I'm not proud that I'm saying that, but it's definitely a 11.

694
00:57:28,728 --> 00:57:29,188
One better.

695
00:57:31,068 --> 00:57:31,448
Yes.

696
00:57:35,328 --> 00:57:37,008
Yeah, my frenetic look.

697
00:57:37,028 --> 00:57:38,688
Do you think you'd like to work a job like him?

698
00:57:38,708 --> 00:57:39,748
I don't know what the hours.

699
00:57:44,108 --> 00:57:45,248
No, sir, we don't have that.

700
00:57:45,268 --> 00:57:46,008
You like black.

701
00:57:46,188 --> 00:57:47,428
You know, I think I could do that.

702
00:57:49,448 --> 00:57:51,628
I also would like to work at a habit asher as well.

703
00:57:51,688 --> 00:57:54,468
But that's a probably work with children.

704
00:57:57,788 --> 00:57:58,588
Oh, what can I say?

705
00:57:58,608 --> 00:58:00,928
The music is amazing.

706
00:58:01,428 --> 00:58:04,428
Like I said, you know, without this is spinal tap.

707
00:58:04,428 --> 00:58:07,948
I don't think Christopher Guest work would be as prolific as it is.

708
00:58:08,308 --> 00:58:13,108
And as a director, this is some deep roots here and it's very important.

709
00:58:13,548 --> 00:58:15,648
If you've seen the other ones, you haven't seen this.

710
00:58:15,968 --> 00:58:18,488
You need to rectify that in a major fucking way.

711
00:58:19,788 --> 00:58:22,728
Multiple editions to buy digitally and physically.

712
00:58:22,748 --> 00:58:24,848
Go get both, man.

713
00:58:25,988 --> 00:58:27,208
I recommend it, you know.

714
00:58:27,228 --> 00:58:29,288
That's what I love about my digital collection.

715
00:58:29,308 --> 00:58:34,568
If I'm on the road and I'm going to watch Big Trouble, Little China, I can click a button and say I can watch it right now.

716
00:58:35,008 --> 00:58:36,968
You know, same thing with Spinal Tap.

717
00:58:38,648 --> 00:58:43,608
Funny as hell, you know, hurtful as hell, the certain people I know that are musicians.

718
00:58:43,608 --> 00:58:45,968
And it's just, it's wonderful.

719
00:58:46,148 --> 00:58:50,508
And it gets the 11 every time.

720
00:58:50,788 --> 00:58:52,968
So we're not biased at all, people.

721
00:58:53,068 --> 00:58:54,288
We just love it that much.

722
00:58:54,448 --> 00:58:56,068
And it deserves your love, too.

723
00:58:56,568 --> 00:58:57,488
Man, oh man.

724
00:58:58,008 --> 00:58:59,108
But that is it for this one.

725
00:58:59,388 --> 00:59:01,648
And we'll come back with something else.

726
00:59:03,388 --> 00:59:05,148
From 1965...

727
00:59:08,688 --> 00:59:10,248
To 1983.

728
00:59:15,668 --> 00:59:17,988
Rock and roll has been here to stay.

729
00:59:18,168 --> 00:59:22,888
And no one has done more staying than international recording stars Spinal Tap.

730
00:59:23,308 --> 00:59:32,908
Now, for the first time, Metal House presents this special TV collection, Heavy Metal Memories, a treasury of 18 years of nerve damaging music by one of England's loudest bands.

731
00:59:33,248 --> 00:59:45,388
You'll hear timeless Spinal Tap favorites like...

732
00:59:50,848 --> 00:59:55,508
This amazing record package is not sold in any store or through this special TV offer.

733
01:00:01,608 --> 01:00:07,768
And what's final tap collection would be complete without their unforgettable international number one hit, Listen to the Flower People.

734
01:00:13,308 --> 01:00:18,188
Heavy metal memories will last forever, but at this special price, they can't last long.

735
01:00:18,588 --> 01:00:19,208
So act now.

736
01:00:19,604 --> 01:00:24,644
Heavy metal memories will make your brain explode and your ears cry for mercy.

737
01:00:25,384 --> 01:00:27,924
And it makes a swell gift, too, don't it?

738
01:00:29,984 --> 01:00:32,384
Now, here's something we hope you'll really like.

739
01:00:43,430 --> 01:00:48,830
He comes from beyond time, from beyond the outer limits of your imagination.

740
01:00:49,750 --> 01:00:52,850
He's the Master Of The Flying Guillotine.

741
01:00:55,310 --> 01:00:57,630
And he's ready to blow your mind.

742
01:01:00,830 --> 01:01:05,010
With more nerve-shattering special effects than you have ever seen before.

743
01:01:05,050 --> 01:01:13,030
It's a trip into a world where warriors from the ends of the universe meet in combat.

744
01:01:13,290 --> 01:01:15,790
That knows no boundaries.

745
01:01:20,690 --> 01:01:27,910
A world where silent soldiers of death try everything in their power to conquer the most gruesome weapon ever conceived.

746
01:01:31,570 --> 01:01:41,490
See special visual effects filmed entirely in super-cinemagic as the Master Of The Flying Guillotine encounters the most amazing creatures in this or any world.

747
01:01:54,450 --> 01:01:58,677
As he experiences the most spectacular adventures the mind can imagine.

748
01:02:08,088 --> 01:02:10,928
The Master Of The Flying Guillotine.

749
01:02:12,708 --> 01:02:14,608
Yes, for the Beef anniversary.

750
01:02:15,668 --> 01:02:17,688
And who knows, we might do more of these.

751
01:02:18,048 --> 01:02:19,928
This is the first edition of the Cripple Theater.

752
01:02:20,868 --> 01:02:23,008
I am Gary, and I'm here with Ricky Morgan.

753
01:02:23,028 --> 01:02:23,948
How are you doing, sir?

754
01:02:24,288 --> 01:02:25,708
What's up, what's up, man?

755
01:02:26,448 --> 01:02:28,168
What a great movie to cover, man.

756
01:02:28,188 --> 01:02:36,148
This is gonna be a blast to talk about, because there's so many elements in this that is so wrong, but it's so awesome.

757
01:02:36,488 --> 01:02:39,948
Yeah, the reason we're doing Crippled Theater is because I always thought it was fascinating.

758
01:02:40,688 --> 01:02:46,068
When somebody does extraordinary things that have an ailment, it's not like being in a PFE.

759
01:02:46,088 --> 01:02:47,168
You're really woke out there.

760
01:02:47,188 --> 01:02:49,288
You're offended by the term crippled theater.

761
01:02:50,608 --> 01:02:51,908
I'm not sorry, okay?

762
01:02:52,588 --> 01:02:53,648
It is what it is, you know?

763
01:02:55,388 --> 01:03:02,008
But the first film we're doing in this series of reviews is Master Of The Flying Guillotine from 1976.

764
01:03:05,128 --> 01:03:30,828
This is written, directed and starring the late Jimmy Wang Yu, who, this is actually a sequel, I mean, a sequel to a film called The One-Arm Boxer and I didn't realize that right away because I haven't seen it, because this is a film that if you're a kung fu enthusiast and you're a budding kung fu enthusiast to be, people, this is what people talk about that you should see.

765
01:03:31,308 --> 01:03:40,628
No doubt, man, it's everything that a exploitation B-movie, martial arts film wants to be.

766
01:03:40,768 --> 01:03:42,348
This movie's got it all in it, man.

767
01:03:43,528 --> 01:04:23,068
Yeah, there's some stuff like Five Deadly Venoms and there's so many, but this is a top of their list that not novice martial arts fans should watch and for good reason too, because it's amongst the silliness which if you did it, the plot of this movie is there's an old man who had students or lieutenants that were killed by the one-armed boxer in the very first movie because they were evil, opium dealers, I think it was or something, that yeah, he lost his arm and he had to get revenge in his first movie, which I have to watch now because I had never seen it before.

768
01:04:23,088 --> 01:04:26,648
So it'd be nice to watch the first part to this movie.

769
01:04:28,088 --> 01:04:35,888
So he's pondering, thinking about the one-armed boxer and what he can do to go find him.

770
01:04:35,888 --> 01:04:41,848
And there's a tournament going on, so he's gonna go to the tournament and kill any one-armed boxer that he sees.

771
01:04:44,428 --> 01:04:54,208
In the nutshell, when this comes down to it, you've got a blind guy that's hiding out in the middle of nowhere, getting messaged by carrier pigeons that his other people have died.

772
01:04:54,488 --> 01:04:58,528
If you're getting this message from this pigeon, somehow we released this pigeon before we died.

773
01:04:59,068 --> 01:05:01,168
But this just means we died.

774
01:05:01,188 --> 01:05:03,268
So I'm trying to figure that part out.

775
01:05:03,668 --> 01:05:06,048
But I'm sending you a pigeon because we've already died.

776
01:05:06,228 --> 01:05:07,428
How that happens, who knows?

777
01:05:07,828 --> 01:05:20,748
But yeah, dude just decides that a blind dude with a flying guillotine is gonna go around and try to kill every one-armed person in China, I guess, because that way he makes sure he gets the right one.

778
01:05:20,868 --> 01:05:23,828
It's kind of like the Hanson brothers in Slap Shot.

779
01:05:24,748 --> 01:05:27,988
And when he gets hit in the head with the keys, is this the guy?

780
01:05:28,228 --> 01:05:29,328
Yeah, and he punches him.

781
01:05:29,548 --> 01:05:31,308
No, that's not him, it's the other guy.

782
01:05:31,708 --> 01:05:32,048
Yeah.

783
01:05:33,788 --> 01:05:36,548
So you got a blind dude around cutting heads off of one-armed people.

784
01:05:36,628 --> 01:05:38,548
I mean, that's this movie.

785
01:05:40,148 --> 01:05:46,928
It was insane about it is, the carrier picture thing first of all is it's gotta be like the most indirect Dear John letter ever.

786
01:05:47,068 --> 01:05:52,568
By the way, this is from your sentence, we're dead if you read this.

787
01:05:53,908 --> 01:05:54,748
This guy did it.

788
01:05:55,108 --> 01:05:56,288
Okay, let me go find him.

789
01:05:56,728 --> 01:06:10,748
And the cool thing, why it's called Master Of The Flying Guillotine is that his weapon is like this basket thing on a chain with retractable blades all around it to where it lands on somebody's head perfectly.

790
01:06:10,768 --> 01:06:14,008
He can yank said chain and pull the guy's head clean off.

791
01:06:14,628 --> 01:06:17,028
Not to mention, this is a blind guy doing it.

792
01:06:17,288 --> 01:06:18,528
The blind guy doing it, yes.

793
01:06:19,168 --> 01:06:23,048
I don't think a guy that could see could do this, but anyways, maybe that's the point.

794
01:06:23,308 --> 01:06:33,688
So he's doing it all by his other senses and it has to be, it looks very light first of all for whatever it is, but also very bloodless.

795
01:06:33,988 --> 01:06:41,708
So in this thing, you know, with his dandelion flying guillotine machine, he could cauterize wounds apparently.

796
01:06:41,728 --> 01:06:50,428
And even, yeah, even if it's not the best of throws, it's got a net that drops down to completely cover your head and finish the job.

797
01:06:50,448 --> 01:06:57,888
So they thought in a mistake-proof function of the guillotine.

798
01:06:59,248 --> 01:07:02,688
Only thing that make it better would be to drop bees like Nicholas Cage in the Wicker Man X.

799
01:07:02,708 --> 01:07:03,068
Right.

800
01:07:03,088 --> 01:07:07,308
They're confused by the bees.

801
01:07:07,328 --> 01:07:10,628
I love the opening of the movie because you've got the old blind dude out here.

802
01:07:10,648 --> 01:07:12,348
He's got a full head of hair.

803
01:07:12,368 --> 01:07:17,928
I mean, it's a big, massive wig he's wearing and eyebrows that are just unmatched.

804
01:07:18,028 --> 01:07:20,568
There's nobody that has eyebrows like this guy.

805
01:07:21,128 --> 01:07:26,008
And he's just out punching the air, you know, like you do when you're some kind of martial arts master.

806
01:07:26,348 --> 01:07:33,988
He gets the message and then dude just goes a bat shit crazy and sets his house on fire and goes on a vendetta.

807
01:07:34,708 --> 01:07:40,728
We have to mention the wooden dummies that he has for just such occasion of revenge.

808
01:07:43,108 --> 01:07:47,068
Because he has to practice his craft of this fly chained weapon.

809
01:07:47,088 --> 01:07:53,508
So he has wooden dummies built in his backyard to aim and shoot.

810
01:07:53,548 --> 01:07:59,048
Now this is a problem for later on in the movie where our one on Boxer is trying to outsmart the blind man.

811
01:07:59,068 --> 01:08:04,148
But these things aren't moving, but maybe in the wind a little bit, who knows.

812
01:08:04,168 --> 01:08:09,948
But he's chucking this thing and he's pulling these heads off these wooden dummies like, yep, I knew this day would come.

813
01:08:09,968 --> 01:08:12,368
So I had this carved out of the cheapest wood possible.

814
01:08:14,608 --> 01:08:20,168
But yeah, man, when he gets ready to go, he just jumps up through his house, busts through the roof, sets the house on fire.

815
01:08:20,608 --> 01:08:23,148
And then this, let's talk about this theme song, man.

816
01:08:23,848 --> 01:08:27,548
The main theme of this movie is like a punk band and it's killer.

817
01:08:29,168 --> 01:08:31,908
All the music in this film is unauthorized by the way to use.

818
01:08:32,488 --> 01:08:35,408
I think that's why it didn't have like a major release for a long time.

819
01:08:35,428 --> 01:08:43,008
Yeah, I mean, it's definitely some sort of punk band, you know, cause you're talking mid to, you know, going into the late 70s.

820
01:08:43,028 --> 01:08:44,288
So that was the movement.

821
01:08:44,668 --> 01:08:54,588
You got that music going on and the theme that every time that the blind master of the guillotine is walking around, it sounds like music that Rob Zombie would use in one of his movies.

822
01:08:54,748 --> 01:08:56,868
So it's like, wow, this is kind of ahead of its time.

823
01:08:57,448 --> 01:08:58,408
Yes, wild man.

824
01:08:58,888 --> 01:09:09,308
You know, well, our one boxer has a school and he has an institute to go to the tournament today, they make a big deal like this tournament is happening, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

825
01:09:09,708 --> 01:09:14,908
And he he's like, oh, he mentioned something about not want to be exposed by the government.

826
01:09:14,928 --> 01:09:17,668
So he might be like in some kind of protection program or something.

827
01:09:18,768 --> 01:09:21,408
I don't know how Chinese schools work.

828
01:09:21,968 --> 01:09:22,868
That's right.

829
01:09:23,388 --> 01:09:24,348
It's weird.

830
01:09:24,948 --> 01:09:36,788
But but they do they do go to have his students, you know, learn how to breathe and how to walk on air, apparently, because, you know, that the art of jumping is very hard to them.

831
01:09:36,808 --> 01:09:38,108
And he just comes over.

832
01:09:38,128 --> 01:09:39,948
He's like, wow, that guy jumps very well.

833
01:09:41,328 --> 01:09:49,208
You know, yeah, of course, their idea of jumping is totally different than ours, because we're thinking, hey, I can I can clear these 15 blocks.

834
01:09:49,228 --> 01:09:55,988
No, he's like, no, take that wicker basket and set it up right and walk around the edge of it with nothing in it.

835
01:09:57,708 --> 01:10:01,928
And then he pulls a line of Richie on him and starts walking on the ceiling.

836
01:10:02,428 --> 01:10:06,328
And then he just climbs down and goes, that's all I'm teaching you for today.

837
01:10:06,348 --> 01:10:07,888
It's like you didn't teach us anything.

838
01:10:07,908 --> 01:10:08,928
You were just showing out.

839
01:10:11,888 --> 01:10:13,648
Looking like turbo and breaking two.

840
01:10:13,668 --> 01:10:16,468
Just, you know, exactly.

841
01:10:16,488 --> 01:10:21,508
But yeah, I mean, I thought it was so funny because he acts like he's teaching him this lesson, but he doesn't teach him.

842
01:10:21,528 --> 01:10:25,548
It's kind of like at work when they say this has to be done, but they're not going to teach you how to do it.

843
01:10:25,628 --> 01:10:27,028
You got to figure it out on your own.

844
01:10:27,048 --> 01:10:36,068
So yeah, he walks on the ceiling, does a little, you know, a little shim sham there and that's it.

845
01:10:36,168 --> 01:10:36,688
He's done.

846
01:10:37,208 --> 01:10:38,128
Class dismissed.

847
01:10:39,128 --> 01:10:41,408
He went to the Terry Silver School of karate.

848
01:10:41,428 --> 01:10:44,828
You know, he shows them, hey, look what I can do.

849
01:10:44,848 --> 01:10:46,348
I'm not going to tell you how I did it though.

850
01:10:46,748 --> 01:10:49,808
Yeah, it's nuts.

851
01:10:51,068 --> 01:10:55,168
Well, they get the tournament and I like this, that there's really no rules at this tournament.

852
01:10:55,188 --> 01:10:56,128
You could have a weapon.

853
01:10:56,588 --> 01:10:58,008
You don't have to have a weapon.

854
01:10:58,308 --> 01:11:01,948
Your hands could be your weapon is one of the I'm sorry.

855
01:11:02,468 --> 01:11:03,368
No, that's that.

856
01:11:03,388 --> 01:11:04,568
I'm just agreeing with you.

857
01:11:04,588 --> 01:11:07,188
It's the craziest setup for an event.

858
01:11:07,308 --> 01:11:12,868
It's basically well, let's face it, you know, everybody's riding the wave of Enter The Dragon at this point, right?

859
01:11:13,308 --> 01:11:20,308
So you had to throw this tournament in there because that's the hot topic of the time because you just had an iconic movie that that's what the whole thing was about.

860
01:11:20,328 --> 01:11:24,488
So you kind of have to say when you look at this, it's a milder case of it.

861
01:11:24,508 --> 01:11:26,528
But this is Mortal Kombat, man.

862
01:11:26,968 --> 01:11:30,148
I mean, you got guys with big stretchy arms.

863
01:11:30,168 --> 01:11:31,928
You got the Indian fighters.

864
01:11:32,388 --> 01:11:35,428
Oh, he comes out of nowhere doing some doll scene shit.

865
01:11:35,548 --> 01:11:39,828
You know, people, people with hidden blades and monkey fighters.

866
01:11:39,848 --> 01:11:42,348
And I mean, you got it all right here.

867
01:11:42,368 --> 01:11:45,528
And like you said, after that first fight, you're like, wait a minute.

868
01:11:46,388 --> 01:11:51,208
Did nobody say there's any rules to this thing because it's like, no, we're just fighting to the death.

869
01:11:51,428 --> 01:11:52,768
I mean, from the get go.

870
01:11:52,888 --> 01:11:53,688
So, wow.

871
01:11:55,308 --> 01:11:55,908
You get it all.

872
01:11:56,308 --> 01:11:58,568
You like, you know, staff fighting.

873
01:11:58,588 --> 01:12:03,528
You get Eagle Claw versus monkey, monkey, monkey paw.

874
01:12:03,548 --> 01:12:07,008
You get all that stuff and you get straight up.

875
01:12:07,368 --> 01:12:12,288
Again, there's an Indian fighter in this film who's probably aging as hell or whatever.

876
01:12:13,028 --> 01:12:18,248
But he could stretch his arms like Del Seam in Street Fighter.

877
01:12:18,628 --> 01:12:20,488
And nobody explains what this is.

878
01:12:20,508 --> 01:12:22,528
There's probably some kind of mystical stuff that I'm missing here.

879
01:12:22,968 --> 01:12:30,168
But it's unexplained why this man could stretch his arms and, you know, cube hard punches and shit like that.

880
01:12:30,608 --> 01:12:34,308
But we're talking Freddie Cougar level arms too, man.

881
01:12:34,328 --> 01:12:35,488
I mean, those things go out of the mouth.

882
01:12:36,448 --> 01:12:37,948
Fucking people up with those arms.

883
01:12:38,448 --> 01:12:38,748
Yeah.

884
01:12:40,468 --> 01:12:49,668
You got the tournament director's daughter, Wu Xiaotai, who's American name apparently is Doris Lung.

885
01:12:50,008 --> 01:12:53,008
She has other names that are listed IMDB.

886
01:12:53,428 --> 01:12:54,588
She's been in a whole bunch of stuff.

887
01:12:54,608 --> 01:12:56,108
A couple of these guys have been in a whole bunch of stuff.

888
01:12:56,328 --> 01:12:59,508
And she wants to be in the tournament.

889
01:12:59,528 --> 01:13:03,328
She wants to, you know, do her thing and prove herself with her eagle claw.

890
01:13:03,348 --> 01:13:04,188
And she does.

891
01:13:04,288 --> 01:13:08,788
And she becomes the love interest of our lead.

892
01:13:11,128 --> 01:13:14,928
The damn one-armed boxer who's pretty cocky through all this.

893
01:13:15,208 --> 01:13:16,668
I love his style.

894
01:13:17,148 --> 01:13:26,548
They're saying, yes, I'll go to your tournament where I could possibly be fucking murdered by somebody because he knew there was consequences to his killing those two lieutenants.

895
01:13:26,568 --> 01:13:32,588
He has to be totally under fire for possibly at any time.

896
01:13:33,228 --> 01:13:36,448
It's like, yes, I will expose myself as this one-armed person.

897
01:13:36,468 --> 01:13:38,708
Yeah, just waiting.

898
01:13:39,328 --> 01:13:55,728
Even when the tournament is over because people freaking die because our Master Of The Flying Guillotine shows up with his razor basket taking people's heads off and stuff and say, well, I guess the tournament's over.

899
01:13:55,748 --> 01:13:57,868
This guy's going to kill me with one arm.

900
01:13:57,888 --> 01:14:01,148
I'm like, yeah, let's just stop it and ruin everything.

901
01:14:03,068 --> 01:14:06,148
I love the fight where the two guys are fighting and they both die.

902
01:14:06,568 --> 01:14:09,088
And so the guy just says they both win.

903
01:14:09,108 --> 01:14:11,868
How did that work?

904
01:14:12,488 --> 01:14:19,488
Yeah, I love the fact of, you know, you're out there, you're fighting to the death and they point out the loser and they say, remove the loser of the match.

905
01:14:19,788 --> 01:14:21,568
These people just come out and just drag them off.

906
01:14:21,588 --> 01:14:23,828
Then you got somebody out there sweeping the footprints.

907
01:14:23,888 --> 01:14:25,968
This is a dirt stadium.

908
01:14:25,988 --> 01:14:26,888
It's a dirt floor.

909
01:14:27,108 --> 01:14:29,108
I'm like, what good does that do?

910
01:14:29,128 --> 01:14:31,768
I mean, why are we dusting the dirt?

911
01:14:32,968 --> 01:14:35,508
It's like they're fixing the infield, like at the baseball games.

912
01:14:35,528 --> 01:14:35,788
Right.

913
01:14:35,948 --> 01:14:38,508
Yeah, they take it that professional, you know.

914
01:14:39,848 --> 01:14:41,188
The tournament is just great.

915
01:14:41,328 --> 01:14:41,968
It's great.

916
01:14:42,588 --> 01:14:43,188
It's wild.

917
01:14:43,208 --> 01:14:44,648
It's about half of it.

918
01:14:44,668 --> 01:14:46,808
It's about a quarter of the movie, I'd say.

919
01:14:47,288 --> 01:14:53,388
You totally forget about the guillotine guy because he's not even in it for a long time.

920
01:14:53,408 --> 01:14:56,748
This tournament goes on for quite a bit, which is totally entertaining.

921
01:14:56,768 --> 01:14:58,028
Well, he's got to travel.

922
01:14:58,088 --> 01:14:59,508
He takes a long time to travel.

923
01:14:59,508 --> 01:15:06,628
I'd love to see those bushy eyebrows get in the way, which they are fricking insane.

924
01:15:06,648 --> 01:15:10,248
There's another guy in the movie that has a mustache that looks like the eyebrows.

925
01:15:14,008 --> 01:15:20,868
It's always like he got the mustache of the old weightlifters back, the bodybuilder guys they would have on the side shows at carnivals and stuff.

926
01:15:21,328 --> 01:15:22,568
It's that kind of mustache.

927
01:15:22,588 --> 01:15:24,668
It's big and bushy and stands way up.

928
01:15:24,688 --> 01:15:28,128
It's like, come on, man, who made this decision?

929
01:15:29,768 --> 01:15:30,788
It's wild, man.

930
01:15:31,368 --> 01:15:47,728
Then you get to the second half of this movie, which I think is just as exciting as the first half of this movie because our man, UT and Lung, the one-armed boxer, he goes back to his village basically to wait for the fucker to come get him.

931
01:15:48,788 --> 01:16:02,568
So in this time, all these fighters come to go try to take him out or give him a warning, including our stretchy armed Indian gentleman, which that's an awesome fight.

932
01:16:02,908 --> 01:16:04,308
It's a great fight.

933
01:16:05,248 --> 01:16:07,928
I guess like his first lieutenant, our blind man.

934
01:16:07,948 --> 01:16:11,888
I was going to say we forgot dancing dude.

935
01:16:17,468 --> 01:16:18,828
And I mean, it's not like a quick.

936
01:16:18,928 --> 01:16:24,488
I mean, this dude breaks it down for 45, 50 seconds, you know, just just a full on dance.

937
01:16:25,748 --> 01:16:33,068
I mean, our one on boxer again, the baldiest fuck of this movie, because he said he sets the house on fire.

938
01:16:33,088 --> 01:16:44,788
They have they have a whole three amigos moment in this movie where he gets all the villagers to be on his side, you know, spears at all, you know, instead of dressing up and faking them out.

939
01:16:44,908 --> 01:16:49,568
Y'all just stand outside the windows with these spears and keep him from jumping out.

940
01:16:51,088 --> 01:16:53,968
So little old in one, so little old in one, you know.

941
01:16:55,428 --> 01:17:03,788
Yeah, I mean, what an idea, though, setting, you know, putting the fire under the house and having a metal floor, I guess because he knew dude would be barefooted.

942
01:17:05,108 --> 01:17:12,528
But this is bad for you too, though, because your feet are going to be burnt up too, and you could possibly get burnt up inside your own house.

943
01:17:13,848 --> 01:17:15,288
It's my favorite thing about this movie.

944
01:17:15,308 --> 01:17:16,408
He doesn't give a shit.

945
01:17:16,888 --> 01:17:19,708
He's like, I'm that bold, you know, come on.

946
01:17:21,168 --> 01:17:22,928
But yeah, that's that's a cool fight, man.

947
01:17:23,248 --> 01:17:23,708
Not cool.

948
01:17:23,728 --> 01:17:24,528
That's a hot fight.

949
01:17:28,468 --> 01:17:32,108
And as soon as it's over, he runs outside and dumps his feet into the water.

950
01:17:32,128 --> 01:17:35,288
You know, the one arm boxman, boxer sticks his feet in the water.

951
01:17:35,308 --> 01:17:39,368
He's like, oh, that feels good.

952
01:17:39,388 --> 01:17:42,728
Master, did you know?

953
01:17:42,748 --> 01:17:43,268
Just hot.

954
01:17:45,108 --> 01:17:46,408
You get to the final fight.

955
01:17:46,928 --> 01:17:51,088
He has like a whole like predator mode set up for him when he comes.

956
01:17:51,308 --> 01:17:57,668
He he puts all this bamboo in the ground just to say, OK, I'm going to stand in the bamboo.

957
01:17:57,688 --> 01:18:01,748
So when he throws his basket, he's going to be picking apart the bamboo and not my face.

958
01:18:02,808 --> 01:18:06,088
You know, not thinking that there's big gaps in this bamboo.

959
01:18:06,468 --> 01:18:10,988
And, you know, eventually it's going to chop down and I better watch my head.

960
01:18:11,508 --> 01:18:11,828
Right.

961
01:18:12,188 --> 01:18:12,548
Yeah.

962
01:18:12,568 --> 01:18:13,048
Yeah.

963
01:18:13,128 --> 01:18:17,308
And that doesn't work out as well for him as he thought, because it does kind of nick him there a little bit.

964
01:18:17,648 --> 01:18:19,328
But he's got like three or four stages.

965
01:18:19,348 --> 01:18:27,808
It's almost like Game of Death where you go to these different levels because he just leads the blind man to other areas, making it more difficult for him to be able to pick him out.

966
01:18:28,348 --> 01:18:34,868
And I'll tell you what, this goes on for what, 20 minutes of the movie, them two facing off.

967
01:18:35,208 --> 01:18:35,988
It does.

968
01:18:36,008 --> 01:18:36,908
It's a long time.

969
01:18:37,188 --> 01:18:38,728
It's well thought out, though.

970
01:18:38,748 --> 01:18:39,688
It's very well thought out.

971
01:18:40,368 --> 01:18:44,448
How would you fool a blind man that could use his other senses like crazy?

972
01:18:44,468 --> 01:18:46,208
How would you impair that?

973
01:18:46,468 --> 01:18:52,808
You put, you know, you make random boxes of birds and you open them up to confuse him.

974
01:18:53,208 --> 01:18:57,408
And you're just killing those poor birds, but whatever.

975
01:18:57,548 --> 01:18:59,728
No birds were harmed in the making of this film.

976
01:18:59,848 --> 01:19:00,688
At least I think so.

977
01:19:00,808 --> 01:19:01,408
I don't know.

978
01:19:01,468 --> 01:19:09,728
But he goes in there and buys that coffin shop, you know, and you're like, why is he buying this place or wanting to use it?

979
01:19:09,748 --> 01:19:11,828
You know, so because you get to see it later on.

980
01:19:11,848 --> 01:19:20,148
But the fact of the big slats of wood that he could, you know, throw sound and make him react to them and not know where he is.

981
01:19:20,168 --> 01:19:28,148
And also the tricks of the wood falling and it launching hatchets at the blind guy in the process.

982
01:19:28,568 --> 01:19:29,608
It's pretty cool.

983
01:19:29,628 --> 01:19:31,288
Don't know how he did it, but pretty cool.

984
01:19:32,228 --> 01:19:37,528
It's all so crazy set up and, you know, it could have went totally wrong for him and it should have.

985
01:19:37,848 --> 01:19:41,368
But the fact that he set this series of traps for him.

986
01:19:41,388 --> 01:19:47,288
And I think it's a pretty cool 20 minutes of cinema to go along with the rest of this movie.

987
01:19:47,828 --> 01:19:50,348
And just just watching them play.

988
01:19:50,368 --> 01:19:58,288
I know, Jamie Wang, you wasn't a real one arm man, but watching what he can do, you know, with just that one arm was pretty impressive.

989
01:19:58,428 --> 01:20:03,888
And just the cockiness of the character, which I think is the MVP of this movie.

990
01:20:04,208 --> 01:20:04,808
Absolutely.

991
01:20:05,768 --> 01:20:08,708
You believe it like the whole time because he's not.

992
01:20:09,548 --> 01:20:13,068
He's a good man, but he's a very violent man because he has to be.

993
01:20:13,088 --> 01:20:15,988
And it's more like one of those Godfather moments.

994
01:20:16,008 --> 01:20:23,048
Like, yeah, I've come to this village and started this school, but I did just murder these two people that are pretty important to this guy.

995
01:20:23,068 --> 01:20:28,728
So, you know, just when I'm out of violence, they suck me back in.

996
01:20:28,848 --> 01:20:29,208
Right.

997
01:20:29,448 --> 01:20:29,888
Yeah.

998
01:20:29,968 --> 01:20:35,048
That's that's kind of the beauty of this, too, because you're rooting for a guy that's really kind of a bad guy.

999
01:20:35,228 --> 01:20:42,388
You know, so that that's you know, it's weird how it turns and you're against, you know, Mr.

1000
01:20:42,408 --> 01:20:42,848
Guillotine.

1001
01:20:43,648 --> 01:20:47,528
And but really, I mean, they're both not better than each other.

1002
01:20:47,548 --> 01:20:53,788
So you just he's you know, the one arm boxer's got more relationships with other people there and he's got a school and all that stuff.

1003
01:20:53,808 --> 01:20:55,528
So you kind of feel drawn to be on his side.

1004
01:20:55,548 --> 01:20:57,468
But come on, they're both bad dudes.

1005
01:20:57,848 --> 01:20:58,168
Yep.

1006
01:20:58,988 --> 01:21:00,988
Yeah, there's other fights we didn't mention in the movie.

1007
01:21:01,068 --> 01:21:09,728
Like in the tournament, there's a pretty neat one where they're they have to balance themselves on top of sticks with swords on the bottom.

1008
01:21:09,828 --> 01:21:10,608
So literally fight.

1009
01:21:10,628 --> 01:21:12,588
You could fall to your death on top of these swords.

1010
01:21:13,028 --> 01:21:16,288
But you got a dude that's fighting in there that can stand on the tips of swords.

1011
01:21:16,408 --> 01:21:18,328
So barefooted.

1012
01:21:18,528 --> 01:21:19,328
It's crazy.

1013
01:21:19,348 --> 01:21:20,248
It's crazy, man.

1014
01:21:20,668 --> 01:21:21,948
It's unbelievable, but it's crazy.

1015
01:21:21,968 --> 01:21:25,368
This film is a classic for so many reasons.

1016
01:21:25,388 --> 01:21:29,668
I'm not even sure if Blu-ray exists in this movie because of the music rights.

1017
01:21:30,828 --> 01:21:34,888
I know One-Arm Boxer has Arrow Blu-ray that you can buy.

1018
01:21:34,908 --> 01:21:37,748
Probably a special edition knowing those guys.

1019
01:21:38,228 --> 01:21:39,768
I'm going to look this up real fast.

1020
01:21:40,128 --> 01:21:42,908
Do some more talking, Ricky, if you can think of some more stuff to talk about, sir.

1021
01:21:42,928 --> 01:21:47,788
Well, I actually watched this on Tubi, and the copy they had on there was pretty dang decent.

1022
01:21:48,808 --> 01:21:52,028
So I don't know if there is an existing one out there.

1023
01:21:52,048 --> 01:21:55,628
There's probably one overseas or something you might get a hold of, but I don't know.

1024
01:21:55,648 --> 01:21:57,348
That transfer they had on there was pretty good.

1025
01:21:58,748 --> 01:22:14,608
You just kind of get thrown, like you said, by the title of the movie, and you start off with this guy and his vendetta, and then you get to the tournament, and it just kind of overshadows everything else going on, but it doesn't disappoint.

1026
01:22:14,628 --> 01:22:27,888
I mean, there's so much, and I'm sure we're leaving out a lot of stuff, Gary, but there's a ton of fights, and it's my only real complaint, and this is just the times, but there's really only about, I'm going to say seven, and that's probably a high number.

1027
01:22:28,028 --> 01:22:30,748
There's only about seven sound effects in this whole movie.

1028
01:22:31,208 --> 01:22:41,828
It doesn't matter if you're a blind man on a hillside and you're punching the air, or if you're kicking somebody in the face, or if you're punching them in the face or punching them in the ribs, it's all the same sound.

1029
01:22:41,928 --> 01:22:43,348
It never changes.

1030
01:22:44,448 --> 01:22:54,588
So that's one thing I did notice, and there's a sound of things dropping to the ground, and sound of some metal clanging, but other than that, the sound effects in this movie, that's pretty much it.

1031
01:22:55,248 --> 01:22:57,968
It's one punch sound that they use for everything.

1032
01:22:59,608 --> 01:23:00,488
That's kind of fun.

1033
01:23:00,868 --> 01:23:05,928
I'm seeing a DVD copy of it on Amazon for $14.32.

1034
01:23:05,948 --> 01:23:16,628
Not like a Dragon Dynasty or something like that, but they call it the ultimate edition, so you can get it on there, but it doesn't really have a super special edition available.

1035
01:23:17,508 --> 01:23:28,608
It deserves to, but I think it might be the soundtrack issue, because they basically used all the music of this film from other films.

1036
01:23:28,628 --> 01:23:36,608
They stole it basically, so there's a lot of rights issues there, I'm sure, in the way of them putting out a really nice clean edition of this.

1037
01:23:38,028 --> 01:23:44,728
Yeah, it's a shame that all those things get held up like that, but hey, it's price you pay, but at least you can still see it.

1038
01:23:45,028 --> 01:23:47,248
Yep, and I did watch it on Tubi as well.

1039
01:23:47,928 --> 01:24:00,188
Only real fault of the print on there, and I'm not even sure how the other prints look either, is that it fades in and out a little bit, from light to dark a little bit, and there's parts of it that are in Chinese.

1040
01:24:00,268 --> 01:24:01,428
Yeah, I noticed that too.

1041
01:24:01,448 --> 01:24:10,188
It's like, yeah, they're pulled an Argento on us, like the deep red when they go back and put the footage back in that's in the original language.

1042
01:24:10,628 --> 01:24:14,228
Yeah, you're trucking along, you're listening to the story, and he says, let me tell you about this guy.

1043
01:24:14,248 --> 01:24:17,148
Then it's like, okay, I can understand anything they're saying now.

1044
01:24:17,168 --> 01:24:20,368
Then it goes back to, well, hey, Fred, how do you know that's true?

1045
01:24:20,468 --> 01:24:21,928
I mean, it's like, whoa, wait a minute.

1046
01:24:22,348 --> 01:24:30,788
So somebody found the original full in the full movie and released it with the extra scenes back in in the original language.

1047
01:24:31,148 --> 01:24:33,788
They do give you more than enough for you to follow the story, though.

1048
01:24:33,808 --> 01:24:36,228
So you're fine on that end.

1049
01:24:36,228 --> 01:24:41,748
So you're bashful about to be like, they have different languages in there.

1050
01:24:42,168 --> 01:24:45,708
You could follow the film just fine by watching it the way it is.

1051
01:24:45,848 --> 01:24:56,328
That may make this qualify as that DVD, you said, maybe the ultimate edition or whatever you called it, because that's usually when they go back and throw everything they can find back into it.

1052
01:24:56,808 --> 01:24:59,548
So it could be the same edition on that DVD then.

1053
01:25:00,208 --> 01:25:03,728
I got hope for arrow, though, because they did put Versus on Blu-ray.

1054
01:25:06,588 --> 01:25:09,628
And oh, boy, Versus is a movie you can watch people.

1055
01:25:09,728 --> 01:25:10,448
Fantastic.

1056
01:25:12,428 --> 01:25:13,448
But yeah.

1057
01:25:13,988 --> 01:25:16,548
That's a Danny Bennett favorite.

1058
01:25:18,668 --> 01:25:20,468
I fell in love with it real fast, man.

1059
01:25:20,588 --> 01:25:21,948
Yeah, it's a great one.

1060
01:25:22,348 --> 01:25:23,008
Great movie.

1061
01:25:23,428 --> 01:25:24,928
It's a classic for a reason.

1062
01:25:25,248 --> 01:25:28,188
If you haven't watched it, seek it out.

1063
01:25:29,128 --> 01:25:33,748
Like I said, first movie in the series, One-armed Boxer, is definitely on Arrow Blu-ray.

1064
01:25:33,768 --> 01:25:35,328
You can buy that from them.

1065
01:25:35,348 --> 01:25:37,908
I think they have a sale going out right now and everything is recording this.

1066
01:25:39,248 --> 01:25:42,188
But yeah, go check this movie out.

1067
01:25:42,808 --> 01:25:45,408
The other works are Jimmy Wang You because he's no longer with us.

1068
01:25:46,128 --> 01:25:48,348
He's not coming to breakfast, as they say.

1069
01:25:50,408 --> 01:25:51,428
Good times, man.

1070
01:25:51,448 --> 01:25:55,468
Yeah, this movie, like I said, it does not disappoint.

1071
01:25:55,488 --> 01:25:58,428
You're not going to be bored for one minute in this thing.

1072
01:25:58,868 --> 01:26:00,508
It just hits and keeps hitting.

1073
01:26:01,408 --> 01:26:08,088
Like I said, if you're a martial arts fan on any level, this has got to be a staple in your diet.

1074
01:26:08,448 --> 01:26:09,088
Yeah, for sure.

1075
01:26:09,108 --> 01:26:10,568
It was an introduction for me.

1076
01:26:11,108 --> 01:26:15,528
I watched very, very few of these overseas martial arts films.

1077
01:26:15,548 --> 01:26:24,448
I mean, Ricky, there's a small age gap between us, but it is an age gap nonetheless to where you had access to Kung Fu theater on Saturday.

1078
01:26:24,708 --> 01:26:25,888
Yes, sir, man.

1079
01:26:25,908 --> 01:26:26,888
That's where it started with me.

1080
01:26:26,908 --> 01:26:34,108
I mean, of course, I grew up with the Bruce Lee stuff and all that, but yeah, Kung Fu theater, man, that did it.

1081
01:26:35,388 --> 01:26:49,368
They play stuff like this on there like all the time and just all the Shaw Brothers stuff and stuff like this and just really wild things and stuff and the culture that we may not understand, but we're all in for it though.

1082
01:26:49,408 --> 01:27:00,148
So I will say that, of course, I've been out of the loop for a little bit and during my downtime with the surgery I had to have, I watched a ton of Shaw Brothers movies.

1083
01:27:00,168 --> 01:27:03,808
I mean, that was kind of my comfort.

1084
01:27:04,108 --> 01:27:07,888
My chicken noodle soup for getting over everything was just watching a bunch of martial arts stuff.

1085
01:27:09,088 --> 01:27:09,508
Nice.

1086
01:27:09,668 --> 01:27:11,668
So you're all in on this review then.

1087
01:27:11,688 --> 01:27:12,308
That's awesome.

1088
01:27:12,448 --> 01:27:13,228
Oh yeah, yeah.

1089
01:27:13,508 --> 01:27:14,068
Absolutely.

1090
01:27:15,508 --> 01:27:19,368
This has been the one for this particular Beef anniversary episode.

1091
01:27:19,948 --> 01:27:26,408
The next Beef anniversary episode and Crippled Theater you should hear is Ricky and I discussing Mr.

1092
01:27:26,428 --> 01:27:28,508
No Legs, which you may know from that movie.

1093
01:27:28,868 --> 01:27:34,548
It's about a guy who gets fucked over by the mob and he turns his wheelchair because he's an amputee.

1094
01:27:34,608 --> 01:27:39,288
He's an amputee instead of missing the legs into a killing machine.

1095
01:27:39,308 --> 01:27:42,548
So we're looking forward to watching that movie again.

1096
01:27:42,568 --> 01:27:44,988
That's going to be awesome.

1097
01:27:45,428 --> 01:27:46,908
That's it for this one.

1098
01:27:46,928 --> 01:27:47,788
Thank you, Rick, sir.

1099
01:27:48,328 --> 01:27:48,888
Yes, sir.

1100
01:27:48,908 --> 01:27:49,628
Anytime, man.

1101
01:27:49,648 --> 01:27:49,968
Love it.

1102
01:27:50,668 --> 01:27:51,888
We'll be back with something else.

1103
01:27:54,788 --> 01:28:03,168
The City Council of Blaine gave me the responsibility of putting together a show to celebrate the 150th anniversary of Blaine.

1104
01:28:03,468 --> 01:28:07,188
I took the whole history of the town and I squeezed it like a piece of fresh bread.

1105
01:28:07,808 --> 01:28:18,848
I think the one really important thing that I learned in working with Corky is that I do indeed have talent.

1106
01:28:23,068 --> 01:28:24,028
Thanks for watching!

1107
01:28:24,048 --> 01:28:25,468
My zeta took one look at it and said, I can't eat that.

1108
01:28:25,748 --> 01:28:30,248
I have found here in Blaine a gold mine of talent.

1109
01:28:35,308 --> 01:28:36,968
Think Johnny would be so perfect, don't you?

1110
01:28:37,148 --> 01:28:40,108
He could be the next Keanu Reeves.

1111
01:28:41,428 --> 01:28:44,068
We've got Ron and Sheila on board again.

1112
01:28:48,768 --> 01:28:50,608
Newcomer Alan Pearl.

1113
01:28:50,768 --> 01:28:57,808
I have a very lazy eye, which these prescription glasses help.

1114
01:28:58,128 --> 01:28:58,648
Libby.

1115
01:28:58,668 --> 01:29:00,688
I've been working here at the DQ for about...

1116
01:29:04,308 --> 01:29:07,608
And of course, Lloyd and I, it's like rams butting heads.

1117
01:29:07,688 --> 01:29:12,128
Certainly Corky has brought something to our little theatrical community.

1118
01:29:12,248 --> 01:29:15,108
He's definitely different.

1119
01:29:15,248 --> 01:29:20,628
You know, he can just do everything there is to do, and there's only one other person in the world that can do that, and that's Barbra Streisand.

1120
01:29:20,648 --> 01:29:23,528
I have a little announcement to make.

1121
01:29:24,308 --> 01:29:28,948
Mort Guffman is going to come from New York City and see our show.

1122
01:29:29,448 --> 01:29:30,968
We have one shot at this.

1123
01:29:30,988 --> 01:29:35,108
We've got one performance with Mort Guffman coming to town.

1124
01:29:46,208 --> 01:30:01,948
As you heard from the trailer, the next feature in this Beefiversary Christopher Guest thing, celebration or whatnot, is his first feature, official feature, Waiting For Guffman from 1996.

1125
01:30:02,888 --> 01:30:06,168
Your cheapo plot synopsis is this.

1126
01:30:07,208 --> 01:30:07,888
Oh, boy.

1127
01:30:07,908 --> 01:30:10,208
Ooh, sorry.

1128
01:30:10,228 --> 01:30:22,868
An aspiring director in the marginally talented amateur cast of a hokey small town Missouri musical production go overboard when they learn that someone from Broadway may be in attendance.

1129
01:30:23,348 --> 01:30:25,328
Hence the title, Waiting For Guffman.

1130
01:30:26,888 --> 01:30:30,308
Speaking of which, tonight, y'all are waiting on me.

1131
01:30:30,908 --> 01:30:36,928
We have a special guest on this particular review, as they do all reviews.

1132
01:30:36,948 --> 01:30:37,788
Mr.

1133
01:30:37,808 --> 01:30:39,028
Venom is here.

1134
01:30:39,048 --> 01:30:40,048
How are you doing, sir?

1135
01:30:40,528 --> 01:30:43,028
Greetings and salutations, mockumentary fans.

1136
01:30:43,508 --> 01:30:45,168
Yes, Gary, I'm doing great.

1137
01:30:45,168 --> 01:30:45,948
How are you doing?

1138
01:30:47,648 --> 01:30:48,388
And Iris is here.

1139
01:30:48,408 --> 01:30:49,168
How are you doing, babe?

1140
01:30:49,768 --> 01:30:51,308
I am just doing wonderful.

1141
01:30:51,388 --> 01:30:56,068
Just loving these mockumentaries, because, man, I dig these movies.

1142
01:30:56,128 --> 01:30:57,588
Yeah, good times, good times.

1143
01:30:59,548 --> 01:31:13,608
Your principal cast for this one is a pretty big one, because he keeps a lot of the same cast, which is what I love about these films, is that they're all, all the stuff is not scripted.

1144
01:31:13,628 --> 01:31:14,448
It's improvised.

1145
01:31:14,468 --> 01:31:24,288
And if you do a little bit of research on this, he shoots 10-minute-long scenes at a time without, you know, direction.

1146
01:31:24,308 --> 01:31:31,968
And he ends up with almost 60 hours of film by the end of the shoot, and he has to cut that to 90 minutes.

1147
01:31:32,548 --> 01:31:39,568
So taking all these comedy people and letting them work and then saying, okay, we're going to keep this.

1148
01:31:40,128 --> 01:31:42,068
It has to be a difficult task to begin with.

1149
01:31:44,408 --> 01:31:48,668
Your principal cast, Christopher Guest himself as Corky St.

1150
01:31:48,688 --> 01:31:52,788
Clair, our drama director.

1151
01:31:53,948 --> 01:31:54,988
Yeah, good stuff.

1152
01:31:55,388 --> 01:31:56,708
Eugene Levy as Dr.

1153
01:31:56,728 --> 01:31:57,488
Alan Pearl.

1154
01:31:57,928 --> 01:32:00,208
Fred Willard as Rob Albertson.

1155
01:32:00,628 --> 01:32:03,308
Catherine Arrera as Sheila Albertson.

1156
01:32:03,688 --> 01:32:05,628
Parker Posey as Libby Mae Brown.

1157
01:32:06,148 --> 01:32:08,608
Louis Arquette as Clifford Woolley.

1158
01:32:09,948 --> 01:32:11,728
Bob Balaban, my man.

1159
01:32:11,748 --> 01:32:12,448
I love this guy.

1160
01:32:12,468 --> 01:32:13,788
Lloyd Miller.

1161
01:32:13,808 --> 01:32:16,768
Matt Kieslar as Johnny Savage.

1162
01:32:17,088 --> 01:32:18,848
Michael Hitchcock as Steve Stark.

1163
01:32:19,348 --> 01:32:21,388
Larry Miller as Mayor Glenn Welsh.

1164
01:32:21,708 --> 01:32:27,548
It's important to see a lot of these names because a lot of them are going to show up again in these other movies, for sure.

1165
01:32:29,268 --> 01:32:32,868
Small roles, David Cross as the UFO expert.

1166
01:32:33,268 --> 01:32:36,288
Paul Dooley as the UFO abductee.

1167
01:32:36,308 --> 01:32:39,148
My favorite parts of this entire movie involves him.

1168
01:32:42,008 --> 01:32:44,628
Brian Doyle-Burry shows up for like a hot second.

1169
01:32:45,888 --> 01:32:46,788
Oh my gosh.

1170
01:32:46,848 --> 01:32:48,068
Linda Cash as Mrs.

1171
01:32:48,088 --> 01:32:48,528
Pearl.

1172
01:32:48,548 --> 01:32:49,548
I love her character.

1173
01:32:49,568 --> 01:33:19,028
Yeah, filmed in Texas, not in Blaine, Missouri, where this film is supposed to take place, which is if I love what he does here, especially with this and like best in show, anything he does, he takes an idea, you know, this idea of a small town who's famous for one thing and they're oh so proud of this one thing and they just blow the shit up.

1174
01:33:19,548 --> 01:33:21,468
And it's amazing.

1175
01:33:22,268 --> 01:33:32,528
I forgot to mention that the music and lyrics are written by Christopher Guest, Michael McKeon and Harry Shearer don't show up in this movie at all.

1176
01:33:33,388 --> 01:33:35,048
They show up in the next one.

1177
01:33:36,628 --> 01:33:38,148
I'll start with Venom.

1178
01:33:38,728 --> 01:33:39,308
Go for it.

1179
01:33:39,328 --> 01:33:40,028
Waiting For Guffman.

1180
01:33:40,048 --> 01:33:41,528
It's the first time watching me, by the way.

1181
01:33:43,488 --> 01:33:46,148
No, definitely not a first time watch for me.

1182
01:33:46,708 --> 01:33:53,908
I've been a fan of Christopher Guest since, well, really since Spinal Tap, even though I know he didn't write in direct Spinal Tap.

1183
01:33:54,368 --> 01:34:11,048
I mean, just watching their performances, the main three guys, McKee and Shearer and Guest as the band, just absolutely blew me away, made me an absolute fan of the mockumentary style of filmmaking, and it just makes sense that I followed Christopher Guest's career along the way.

1184
01:34:11,068 --> 01:34:16,108
So Waiting For Guffman, this is one I would have seen, you know, less than a year after its release.

1185
01:34:16,128 --> 01:34:19,748
I wasn't quite going to see every Christopher Guest movie in theaters.

1186
01:34:20,088 --> 01:34:25,188
It probably wasn't until Best in Show that I started that streak, and at this point, I haven't missed any since.

1187
01:34:25,508 --> 01:34:27,808
Waiting For Guffman is an odd animal, though.

1188
01:34:28,848 --> 01:34:32,388
I love all of the Christopher Guest films, all the mockumentaries.

1189
01:34:32,388 --> 01:34:39,228
I mean, hell, I'll even, you know, go to Bat For Mascots, which I know a lot of people kind of poo-pooed a few years ago.

1190
01:34:40,468 --> 01:34:48,388
But this one, I find this one to be the most emotional and the least funny of his films.

1191
01:34:48,408 --> 01:34:50,088
Now, I'm not saying the film is not funny.

1192
01:34:50,108 --> 01:34:59,208
The film is hysterical, but you have to realize that there are films out there like Best In Show and A Mighty Wind that literally leave my stomach hurting when the film is over.

1193
01:34:59,428 --> 01:35:13,968
This one, because of some of the quirky characters, because of some of the more kind of sad situations that some of these characters are going through, it injects a little bit more reality into the film than something like a spinal tap or a mighty wind.

1194
01:35:14,368 --> 01:35:17,768
And that kind of tends to bring down the comedic factor of the film.

1195
01:35:18,568 --> 01:35:27,588
In a sense that we watch a Christopher Guest movie to laugh, not to feel sad for characters' decisions and choices, things like that.

1196
01:35:28,768 --> 01:35:31,088
The movie is still incredibly well-performed.

1197
01:35:31,108 --> 01:35:32,628
It is incredibly funny.

1198
01:35:32,688 --> 01:35:43,908
I mean, this cast, as with all of Christopher Guest's films, casts are stellar, not just the main players, but even the secondary roles as well.

1199
01:35:44,728 --> 01:35:49,668
The journeyman actors and actresses that he gets to be in his films is just amazing.

1200
01:35:50,088 --> 01:35:52,848
You know, the comedy is still there and it's still on point.

1201
01:35:52,928 --> 01:36:02,188
I think the reason that I look at Waiting For Guffman is one of my lesser favorite guest movies is because of my lack of interest in the subject matter.

1202
01:36:02,208 --> 01:36:13,488
When we go back and look through all the films that he's done, you know, best in show, I've been married to a veterinarian for 26 years, so of course by association, I love animals and I love best in show.

1203
01:36:14,528 --> 01:36:21,748
Spinal Tap, again, not a Christopher Guest direct film, but, you know, I'm obviously a heavy metal dude.

1204
01:36:22,188 --> 01:36:25,328
You know, the attitude, the lifestyle, it's always worked for me.

1205
01:36:25,588 --> 01:36:37,868
A Mighty Wind, even though I'm not a fan of folk music, I am still a musician and a fan of playing live, so to actually see the ins and outs of putting this show together was extremely entertaining for me.

1206
01:36:38,228 --> 01:36:42,388
Now, musical theater is something I've never been the biggest fan of.

1207
01:36:42,448 --> 01:36:53,148
At no point in my life have I ever been a fan of musical theater, and I think because of my lack of interest in that topic, this one doesn't always work for me as much.

1208
01:36:54,228 --> 01:36:56,328
Like I said, it's still an amazing film.

1209
01:36:56,868 --> 01:37:07,548
The triumph of this film is the fact that it's done without a script, the fact that for the most part only the songs were written when they were going into the production of this one.

1210
01:37:07,928 --> 01:37:11,508
They had some scenarios in mind here and there, but no actual lines.

1211
01:37:11,848 --> 01:37:22,528
And allowing this group of actors to kind of ad lib or improv the entire film and still come up with something this funny and this entertaining is an absolute triumph.

1212
01:37:22,548 --> 01:37:30,188
Now, obviously, as I've already said, I feel like a couple other examples of guest films kind of nail the aesthetic a little bit more.

1213
01:37:31,328 --> 01:37:33,168
I'm kind of a Mighty Wind guy.

1214
01:37:33,668 --> 01:37:38,828
Mighty Wind is probably my favorite Christopher Guest movie, and it was not upon first watch.

1215
01:37:39,568 --> 01:37:45,288
That basically came about over 20 years of watching every Christopher Guest movie incessantly.

1216
01:37:45,488 --> 01:37:48,988
I own all of them, and I watch them constantly.

1217
01:37:49,008 --> 01:37:51,428
They're all pretty much annual watches for me.

1218
01:37:51,448 --> 01:37:54,948
On Mighty Wind, I tend to watch two or three times a year, actually.

1219
01:37:55,288 --> 01:38:23,388
So, you know, the whole gist of what I'm trying to say is that I love Christopher Guest films, but Waiting For Guffman is the one that I have the least attachment to, and I am very, you know, open to the fact that it's probably because I have no interest in musical theater, but still an incredibly funny film, an absolute must watch for comedy fans, and, you know, it's required viewing if you're a fan of any kind of mockumentary style filmmaking.

1220
01:38:23,408 --> 01:38:25,668
So, yeah, still an absolute classic film.

1221
01:38:25,868 --> 01:38:30,848
It's interesting the way you describe, you know, you're the least interested in this one.

1222
01:38:32,488 --> 01:38:33,408
No, go ahead, Gary.

1223
01:38:33,748 --> 01:38:37,548
No, he was the least interested in, you know, the subject matter of this one.

1224
01:38:37,568 --> 01:38:49,128
I think Christopher Guest's ability, the people that are involved in his films, their ability to make me care about the subject matter is a pretty magical thing, I think.

1225
01:38:49,148 --> 01:38:50,608
I don't know what it is, but...

1226
01:38:50,628 --> 01:38:51,288
Absolutely.

1227
01:38:51,308 --> 01:39:10,128
I mean, like I said, the fact that I have such little interest in that subject matter, yet still watch Waiting For Guffman every year or a couple of years, says something to Christopher Guest's filmmaking and just how he shoots his scenes, like you said, shooting these long scenes and then editing the best parts of them together.

1228
01:39:10,428 --> 01:39:13,428
That is the triumph of this movie, is in its filmmaking.

1229
01:39:13,568 --> 01:39:20,568
And like I said, despite me having no interest in musical theater, I can still watch this movie and enjoy it.

1230
01:39:21,348 --> 01:39:27,068
I just want to let it be known that it is definitely one of my lesser movies.

1231
01:39:27,088 --> 01:39:29,228
It's the one that I gravitate towards the least.

1232
01:39:29,388 --> 01:39:33,508
When I feel like a Christopher Guest movie, it's not likely going to be Waiting For Guffman.

1233
01:39:34,628 --> 01:39:35,428
Iris, I'm sorry.

1234
01:39:35,448 --> 01:39:35,888
Go ahead, girl.

1235
01:39:35,908 --> 01:39:37,128
Oh, what?

1236
01:39:37,608 --> 01:39:39,748
Iris, I think she hit herself on mute, maybe.

1237
01:39:39,768 --> 01:39:40,748
Are you there, Venom?

1238
01:39:41,088 --> 01:39:43,008
Doesn't look like she's muted.

1239
01:39:43,028 --> 01:39:43,688
I don't know.

1240
01:39:43,788 --> 01:39:44,328
She's not talking.

1241
01:39:44,348 --> 01:39:44,548
Yes, sir.

1242
01:39:44,948 --> 01:39:46,108
I just beg you, if you're there.

1243
01:39:46,128 --> 01:39:47,628
Yeah, she's not muted.

1244
01:39:47,748 --> 01:39:48,348
She's not talking.

1245
01:39:48,368 --> 01:39:51,048
I mean, maybe she's in the process of getting disconnected.

1246
01:39:51,388 --> 01:39:52,268
Could be, could be.

1247
01:39:52,288 --> 01:39:54,108
My energy's been going crazy all day because of the...

1248
01:39:54,128 --> 01:39:56,008
I think it's because of the terrible weather we've been having.

1249
01:39:56,028 --> 01:39:59,308
It's been raining and threatening to rain all day.

1250
01:39:59,328 --> 01:40:00,828
There we go.

1251
01:40:00,848 --> 01:40:01,668
Yeah, she got bumped.

1252
01:40:01,788 --> 01:40:04,108
Go ahead and do it.

1253
01:40:05,708 --> 01:40:14,428
I got to tell the guys in the group though, I try to keep you guys abreast though when we're doing the next one, so if you want to happen to jump on the next ones...

1254
01:40:15,988 --> 01:40:16,388
Yeah.

1255
01:40:16,868 --> 01:40:18,048
You just gotta go by the...

1256
01:40:18,168 --> 01:40:20,108
Monday's already fresh cuts night for me.

1257
01:40:20,148 --> 01:40:20,668
Gotcha.

1258
01:40:21,028 --> 01:40:22,248
Yeah, Thursday was Thursday.

1259
01:40:22,268 --> 01:40:23,668
Thursday I may be open.

1260
01:40:23,868 --> 01:40:32,628
Okay, yeah, Thursday is a Best In Show with Bo, and I think sometime that weekend is gonna be a mighty win with Scott.

1261
01:40:32,648 --> 01:40:41,048
I gotta hit up Scott to see where he's available and where they're available, and it's all got to line up, and I hate the fucking scheduling so much.

1262
01:40:45,868 --> 01:40:47,048
Couldn't do what Duncan does though.

1263
01:40:47,068 --> 01:40:47,628
Fuck no.

1264
01:40:47,868 --> 01:40:48,928
Wouldn't fucking want it.

1265
01:40:49,328 --> 01:40:50,248
Oh, hell no.

1266
01:40:50,288 --> 01:40:51,148
No, no, no, no.

1267
01:40:51,168 --> 01:40:51,608
No way.

1268
01:40:51,708 --> 01:40:52,508
I need to have a life.

1269
01:40:52,848 --> 01:40:53,268
I might drop.

1270
01:40:53,288 --> 01:40:56,608
That's way too much poker to podcast and edit as much as Duncan does.

1271
01:40:56,808 --> 01:41:06,508
I may, I may drop out of Summer Series though, because I'm trying to get all my little houses in order here just to, I haven't released much and that's my fault.

1272
01:41:06,528 --> 01:41:12,868
And I'm trying to get, I'm trying to get abreast with all my co-hosts and get it going on.

1273
01:41:12,888 --> 01:41:16,048
We have a regular day for two Jigmin commentaries now.

1274
01:41:16,068 --> 01:41:17,488
So that's going to help things.

1275
01:41:17,508 --> 01:41:20,728
And like I said, we're going to record some surplus shows with some guys.

1276
01:41:20,728 --> 01:41:25,608
So if you're interested in doing some surplus shows with me, I'll be looking for some co-hosts for those.

1277
01:41:25,808 --> 01:41:32,828
And I'm not sure what those are going to be yet, but I just want to get some in the can so I can not bug Iris and Suzanne so much.

1278
01:41:33,348 --> 01:41:34,868
Yeah, definitely.

1279
01:41:35,728 --> 01:41:37,448
I'll keep you informed.

1280
01:41:37,788 --> 01:41:38,488
I'm always down.

1281
01:41:38,688 --> 01:41:41,048
I'll keep you informed on what that's going to be.

1282
01:41:42,288 --> 01:41:42,748
Yeah.

1283
01:41:43,968 --> 01:41:46,248
Oh, I got my phone on.

1284
01:41:46,268 --> 01:41:48,928
I don't think I have my phone on, so let me fix that problem.

1285
01:41:51,028 --> 01:41:52,328
What did I just do here?

1286
01:41:53,368 --> 01:41:54,028
Oh, excuse me.

1287
01:41:54,308 --> 01:41:55,388
What are you guys doing next time?

1288
01:41:55,408 --> 01:41:56,028
No room in hell.

1289
01:41:56,048 --> 01:41:57,468
Oh, what are we doing?

1290
01:41:58,448 --> 01:42:04,728
The Ruins and Atrocious, which is Atrocious is a Spanish found footage movie.

1291
01:42:05,548 --> 01:42:06,548
I knew what The Ruins was.

1292
01:42:06,628 --> 01:42:08,448
And then The Ruins, of course, the classic.

1293
01:42:08,648 --> 01:42:09,048
What's that?

1294
01:42:09,288 --> 01:42:10,168
I knew what The Ruins was.

1295
01:42:10,188 --> 01:42:11,148
I wasn't sure about the other one.

1296
01:42:11,948 --> 01:42:13,048
Yeah, yeah, it's a weird one.

1297
01:42:13,068 --> 01:42:13,968
It's kind of obscure.

1298
01:42:13,988 --> 01:42:15,208
Not a lot of people have seen it.

1299
01:42:15,988 --> 01:42:20,248
Like I said, it's just a it's a weird found footage movie, you know, and it's in Spanish.

1300
01:42:20,268 --> 01:42:23,768
So it's probably not anything that American horror fans are going to kind of seek out.

1301
01:42:23,828 --> 01:42:26,928
But it's one that I enjoyed when I saw it a couple of years ago.

1302
01:42:26,948 --> 01:42:29,248
So this is basically a revisit for me.

1303
01:42:29,548 --> 01:42:31,288
I don't want to read the movie, damn it.

1304
01:42:31,608 --> 01:42:34,328
I'm that kind of American person.

1305
01:42:34,548 --> 01:42:36,588
No, I read the movie all the time.

1306
01:42:36,648 --> 01:42:37,388
I did fine.

1307
01:42:37,408 --> 01:42:39,028
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1308
01:42:40,448 --> 01:42:46,208
So I was talking that whole time and then realized that I wasn't even on the call anymore.

1309
01:42:46,368 --> 01:42:47,508
Yeah, you're cut off.

1310
01:42:47,528 --> 01:42:47,848
Yeah.

1311
01:42:49,448 --> 01:42:54,068
So we basically didn't get anything of yours, so you could just start over.

1312
01:42:54,768 --> 01:42:56,588
Well, I will start all over again.

1313
01:42:58,268 --> 01:43:02,208
OK, so for me, I love theater.

1314
01:43:02,548 --> 01:43:03,588
I love live theater.

1315
01:43:03,608 --> 01:43:05,208
I've done live theater.

1316
01:43:05,548 --> 01:43:08,088
So this movie is a lot of fun for me.

1317
01:43:08,988 --> 01:43:17,448
The way the characters are and the dynamic between all of them, how Ron, you know, wants to loosen up Dr.

1318
01:43:17,468 --> 01:43:18,068
Pearlman.

1319
01:43:18,088 --> 01:43:24,528
And, you know, just the way they are and just the running gags in this whole thing.

1320
01:43:25,568 --> 01:43:32,488
Like Ron's peculiar surgery that he had to have.

1321
01:43:32,508 --> 01:43:33,008
So good.

1322
01:43:35,728 --> 01:43:38,868
One of the greatest screw the audience jokes ever.

1323
01:43:38,888 --> 01:43:39,988
Right, right.

1324
01:43:40,348 --> 01:43:42,308
And it's like, here, you know, you're a doctor, right?

1325
01:43:46,168 --> 01:43:46,968
Oh, my God.

1326
01:43:47,268 --> 01:43:49,768
And the Chinese restaurant scene.

1327
01:43:49,868 --> 01:43:50,468
Oh, my God.

1328
01:43:50,488 --> 01:43:53,208
That is the best scene right there.

1329
01:43:53,648 --> 01:44:01,008
Where, you know, of course, Sheila's like, so what's it like, you know, being with an uncircumcised man?

1330
01:44:04,048 --> 01:44:06,668
Of course, the Pearls, you know, the Pearls, the Dr.

1331
01:44:06,688 --> 01:44:13,488
Pearls, you know, Ellen and his wife are like, you know, so yeah, the egg rolls are really good.

1332
01:44:16,408 --> 01:44:17,848
Can we have some coffee, please?

1333
01:44:17,868 --> 01:44:18,508
Coffee here?

1334
01:44:18,528 --> 01:44:22,128
Oh, my gosh.

1335
01:44:22,148 --> 01:44:23,648
But just that conversation there.

1336
01:44:23,668 --> 01:44:28,368
And then, of course, Ron relents and, you know, stands up and starts undoing his pants.

1337
01:44:28,388 --> 01:44:28,868
So Dr.

1338
01:44:28,888 --> 01:44:31,568
Perlman can look at his penis, I mean.

1339
01:44:31,908 --> 01:44:36,668
Okay, so of course, this movie was back in, what, 1996.

1340
01:44:37,348 --> 01:44:46,308
And the jokes that, you know, Alan Perl says of like, you know, oh, happy squad in Whampama, you know, and stuff.

1341
01:44:46,468 --> 01:44:51,728
And I'm like, of course, you know, stuff like that would not fly very well now, but.

1342
01:44:52,688 --> 01:44:55,328
Even his mild racism is pretty entertaining.

1343
01:44:55,588 --> 01:44:56,568
Right, exactly.

1344
01:44:56,808 --> 01:44:58,728
It is fucking hilarious.

1345
01:44:58,948 --> 01:45:13,468
So, and one of my favorite scenes also is when, when, when Lloyd Miller, which I love his name, basically goes, so Corky's gone and the show is mine now.

1346
01:45:13,868 --> 01:45:16,608
I'm going to be in there like, no.

1347
01:45:16,928 --> 01:45:19,388
So they all take off running, looking for Corky.

1348
01:45:19,808 --> 01:45:27,888
And this scene always reminds me of when they go looking for the two ghosts in the attic in Beetlejuice.

1349
01:45:28,408 --> 01:45:36,768
It's the same fucking scene, man, because they're all running up the stairs and they're all banging on the door and trying to figure out what's going on in there.

1350
01:45:37,188 --> 01:45:39,648
And then one of them's like, no, no, stop, stop.

1351
01:45:39,668 --> 01:45:40,628
Just leave them alone.

1352
01:45:41,048 --> 01:45:43,508
It's the same exact scene.

1353
01:45:43,948 --> 01:45:47,468
And that always cracks me up because it's like, I'm watching Beetlejuice.

1354
01:45:47,488 --> 01:45:48,328
What am I watching here?

1355
01:45:49,488 --> 01:45:52,348
But there's just a lot in this whole thing.

1356
01:45:52,428 --> 01:45:55,088
And of course, just these little snippets, right?

1357
01:45:55,108 --> 01:45:56,368
Like Paul Dooley.

1358
01:45:56,848 --> 01:45:57,368
That.

1359
01:45:58,688 --> 01:46:06,388
So they put us in these different rooms and then I got probed and then all of them came in and they all probed me.

1360
01:46:06,408 --> 01:46:07,828
Not all at the same time.

1361
01:46:09,948 --> 01:46:14,128
It's like, don't feel my buttocks.

1362
01:46:14,608 --> 01:46:15,748
Just don't feel the buttocks.

1363
01:46:16,288 --> 01:46:16,788
So good.

1364
01:46:16,808 --> 01:46:19,468
It's like a little minute gag, but I can't stop laughing.

1365
01:46:19,728 --> 01:46:22,368
All of them are, right?

1366
01:46:22,388 --> 01:46:32,808
And of course you've got the UFO, David Cross, when he's like, you know, Blaine, if you scramble up the world, you know, the words, it's Nelby or something like that.

1367
01:46:33,488 --> 01:46:39,268
You know, I was just waiting for him to go, it's alien.

1368
01:46:39,808 --> 01:46:47,248
But yeah, you know, I think this is like you guys were saying, this is the genius of this filmmaking, right?

1369
01:46:47,568 --> 01:47:05,068
To be able to do, have these wonderful comedians do these long scenes and then go and edit and put everything together where it is a coherent movie that you can follow along is just fucking amazing to me.

1370
01:47:05,568 --> 01:47:29,908
And the way they break the fourth wall too, because it's a mockumentary, so you know that they're talking to the screen, but it kind of makes you feel not like you are in it with them, but like you are an actual character sitting, watching them do all this wacky rehearsing and actually sitting in the audience there with them.

1371
01:47:29,928 --> 01:47:32,468
So I think it's just a wonderful movie.

1372
01:47:32,508 --> 01:47:40,928
And of course, the final gag of Waiting For Guffman, you know, it's kind of like a play off of Waiting For Godot.

1373
01:47:43,408 --> 01:47:54,788
It's just hilarious when they all realize that they have acted and sang their little hearts out and it just didn't pan out the way they thought it was going to.

1374
01:47:54,808 --> 01:47:58,168
It's hilarious, just fucking hilarious.

1375
01:47:58,408 --> 01:47:59,628
I just love this movie.

1376
01:48:00,888 --> 01:48:22,308
I love so many things about this movie, but what Christopher Guest does with Parker Posey in all these movies, I know her first and foremost from Daisy Confused in films like that, where she's like the assertive dominant female type, but he turns into these almost pathetic characters in a way.

1377
01:48:22,728 --> 01:48:23,908
Like very, very humble.

1378
01:48:23,928 --> 01:48:28,288
They have like a past you're not sure about, but sometimes you know about.

1379
01:48:28,948 --> 01:48:33,208
This one is just a girl who sort of has big dreams.

1380
01:48:33,228 --> 01:48:34,808
Who happens to work at the Dairy Queen.

1381
01:48:34,828 --> 01:48:38,768
And that if it doesn't pan out, well, at least the Dairy Queen will take me back.

1382
01:48:39,228 --> 01:48:42,668
You know, it just it's it's one of those small town things.

1383
01:48:42,988 --> 01:48:44,088
The scenes in the film.

1384
01:48:44,408 --> 01:48:45,188
Oh, absolutely.

1385
01:48:45,728 --> 01:48:49,468
But that's what it's funny, because that's one of the scenes in the movie that actually kind of depresses me.

1386
01:48:49,608 --> 01:48:57,088
The fact that she's sitting there with a defeatist attitude and just accepting the fact that, well, I guess the Dairy Queen will always have me.

1387
01:48:57,108 --> 01:48:59,888
It's like, oh my God, that's such a terrible attitude.

1388
01:48:59,908 --> 01:49:05,068
I mean, you know, it's a small town and I understand, you know, big dreams don't come often, but man.

1389
01:49:05,468 --> 01:49:07,028
It's a small town dream, right?

1390
01:49:07,408 --> 01:49:07,948
Exactly.

1391
01:49:08,048 --> 01:49:09,248
No, big time.

1392
01:49:09,628 --> 01:49:19,368
And, you know, and I appreciate the fact that actors will bust their hump to, you know, get this stuff made, make it as entertaining as possible, everything else.

1393
01:49:19,388 --> 01:49:27,288
But man, this is one of the things, this is another thing about this movie that kind of doesn't entertain me as much as some of the past ones.

1394
01:49:27,308 --> 01:49:29,888
It's what I like to call the post-event scene.

1395
01:49:30,208 --> 01:49:34,528
In all of the Christopher Guest movies, there's always one big event that they're leading up to.

1396
01:49:34,688 --> 01:49:37,188
Obviously in Best in Show, it's the dog show.

1397
01:49:37,368 --> 01:49:40,248
In A Mighty Wind, it's the big show at Town Hall.

1398
01:49:41,068 --> 01:49:44,348
And then there's the scenes afterward, like what are they doing now?

1399
01:49:44,508 --> 01:49:49,508
And in Best in Show and A Mighty Wind, they're not nearly as depressing.

1400
01:49:49,548 --> 01:49:54,988
They're like, they're a lot more joyful and, you know, and funny a lot of the times.

1401
01:49:55,068 --> 01:49:59,348
In this movie, it seems like everyone is worse off after the show.

1402
01:50:00,208 --> 01:50:03,648
You know, Fred and Catherine O'Hare moved to Hollywood.

1403
01:50:03,668 --> 01:50:04,548
They don't have a car.

1404
01:50:04,568 --> 01:50:06,148
They can't afford to do anything.

1405
01:50:06,848 --> 01:50:13,508
Obviously, Parker Posey, you know, moving back in with her dad, her ex-con dad, and going back to the Dairy Queen.

1406
01:50:13,508 --> 01:50:19,868
Even Corky telling the horror stories of him moving back to New York and, you know, why he did it and everything else.

1407
01:50:20,188 --> 01:50:26,548
This movie, as much as I like this movie and I laugh throughout, it always tends to leave me a little sad at the end.

1408
01:50:26,548 --> 01:50:30,008
And that's probably why it's one that I don't always gravitate towards.

1409
01:50:31,068 --> 01:50:35,808
I want to be left with that funny bone kind of tingling when I walk away from a comedy.

1410
01:50:35,968 --> 01:50:37,748
I don't want to kind of be a little sad.

1411
01:50:38,028 --> 01:50:47,188
And again, this is just, it's just showing the great filmmaking of Christopher Guest once again, because he can make a comedy feel legitimately sad at times.

1412
01:50:47,288 --> 01:50:50,008
And, you know, again, that's a great thing.

1413
01:50:50,028 --> 01:50:51,588
It sounds like I'm complaining about it.

1414
01:50:51,608 --> 01:50:52,988
I'm not necessarily complaining.

1415
01:50:53,308 --> 01:50:58,848
I'm just saying that I personally, when I go into a Christopher Guest movie, I want to laugh, beginning to end.

1416
01:50:59,008 --> 01:51:08,648
And not to say that I'm not laughing beginning to end here, but there's enough of those sad post-event scenes that just leaves me a little sad is all.

1417
01:51:08,988 --> 01:51:09,608
Yeah, I get it.

1418
01:51:09,948 --> 01:51:10,368
Yeah.

1419
01:51:11,468 --> 01:51:13,508
I think that's the beauty of this whole thing though, right?

1420
01:51:13,528 --> 01:51:15,868
Because you kind of get invested in these characters.

1421
01:51:16,068 --> 01:51:17,228
Yes, absolutely.

1422
01:51:17,248 --> 01:51:19,528
In all his movies, I get invested in these characters.

1423
01:51:19,548 --> 01:51:20,548
Yeah, very much so.

1424
01:51:20,928 --> 01:51:21,948
I'm sorry, Gary.

1425
01:51:21,968 --> 01:51:22,668
No, no, it's okay.

1426
01:51:23,448 --> 01:51:26,088
No, I think it's important, you know, because every kid wants it.

1427
01:51:26,108 --> 01:51:30,968
It remains of the day, your lunchbox, as Corky describes, you know.

1428
01:51:31,628 --> 01:51:33,288
Brad Pack bubble heads, right?

1429
01:51:33,308 --> 01:51:34,388
Gosh, man.

1430
01:51:34,548 --> 01:51:38,588
I actually would love one of those Corky hand towels.

1431
01:51:38,888 --> 01:51:41,328
I would, I would spray that in my house.

1432
01:51:42,428 --> 01:51:54,468
No, the whole character of Corky Sinclair, from like the hair and the way he acts, and you know, he's, is he heterosexual?

1433
01:51:54,468 --> 01:51:57,508
You really don't know because he hires this mechanic to be an actor.

1434
01:51:57,528 --> 01:52:00,548
He's being really flirty with his mechanic and, you know.

1435
01:52:00,568 --> 01:52:02,068
I mean, he claims to have.

1436
01:52:02,748 --> 01:52:03,968
Yes, he claims that in life.

1437
01:52:03,988 --> 01:52:07,728
I've never seen her before, but maybe she's out of town or something.

1438
01:52:10,528 --> 01:52:13,788
It's a real small, small part of the film, but like the whole theater thing.

1439
01:52:13,808 --> 01:52:21,668
And he's this guy who's, you know, straight off the destroyer to New York City, you know, without a penny in her pocket, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada.

1440
01:52:21,688 --> 01:52:23,548
And it's it's it.

1441
01:52:24,488 --> 01:52:29,228
It seems like this is his home, but where he's from, because he's forced to come back here.

1442
01:52:29,248 --> 01:52:36,748
But we still kind of live in the broad, the off, Broadway's, you know, dream.

1443
01:52:36,768 --> 01:52:45,388
It's it's it's like like like Venom said, there's this there's a sense of patheticness here, which kind of makes you sad.

1444
01:52:45,928 --> 01:52:48,308
But you're you're emotionally invested in these characters.

1445
01:52:48,808 --> 01:52:55,468
Yeah, even Michael Hitchcock's character, you know, where he's this guy that that's helping help help help for the town.

1446
01:52:55,488 --> 01:52:57,368
I forget exactly what his title is.

1447
01:52:57,888 --> 01:53:06,488
But he he wants to be in the show so bad, but he can't be in the show because the mayor said that he had to work that day to do the audition.

1448
01:53:06,908 --> 01:53:08,228
But he still really loves to be in the.

1449
01:53:14,168 --> 01:53:15,888
And it's a really fun time.

1450
01:53:15,908 --> 01:53:20,548
But like Venom said, this is not one that I watched for the first time for the show.

1451
01:53:20,568 --> 01:53:24,228
I really I really enjoyed myself, you know, as much as the other ones.

1452
01:53:24,648 --> 01:53:31,628
But there is there is that sense of depression, you know, for these characters that makes you not want to go back to it.

1453
01:53:31,648 --> 01:53:33,528
I mean, you step in like best in show.

1454
01:53:33,548 --> 01:53:35,808
They're pathetic for different reasons.

1455
01:53:36,328 --> 01:53:42,508
I mean, I mean, Parker Posey's character is well off in the movie, you know, with her husband.

1456
01:53:42,948 --> 01:53:53,688
But they have a lot of problems clearly, you know, with themselves and their fucking dog, which proves, you know, you could you could be well off and be miserable at the same time.

1457
01:53:53,708 --> 01:53:59,928
But with them not being aware that you're miserable, you know, did you forget his toy?

1458
01:54:00,228 --> 01:54:09,068
How could you forget the Bumblebee when she accuses that hotel staff member of stealing her dog toy?

1459
01:54:09,168 --> 01:54:10,288
I just got out.

1460
01:54:10,548 --> 01:54:12,808
I'm like, that's exactly what she wants to steal from you.

1461
01:54:12,828 --> 01:54:13,448
A dog toy.

1462
01:54:14,048 --> 01:54:16,168
She's that funny, too.

1463
01:54:16,188 --> 01:54:18,248
It's like now you live in a world of Karen's.

1464
01:54:18,268 --> 01:54:21,228
And I look at that scene in a completely different context now.

1465
01:54:21,728 --> 01:54:23,908
Like, you know, it was funny before.

1466
01:54:23,948 --> 01:54:25,388
It's still a little insipid.

1467
01:54:25,728 --> 01:54:29,368
But now I look at it as, oh, there's the entitled white woman.

1468
01:54:29,548 --> 01:54:31,728
Accusing the minority of stealing from her.

1469
01:54:33,428 --> 01:54:37,028
I'm not going to say it's problematic in any way.

1470
01:54:37,088 --> 01:54:40,848
It's just it's one of those things in the back of my head that I think about now.

1471
01:54:40,868 --> 01:54:42,828
Like, holy shit, Parker Posey's a Karen.

1472
01:54:43,428 --> 01:54:48,528
Um, yeah, there's there's a lot.

1473
01:54:48,548 --> 01:54:55,628
I forget to mention that the whole plot of this film is for them to put on this play for their 150th anniversary of this town.

1474
01:54:56,388 --> 01:55:07,628
And the reason why it's called Waiting For Guffman, Corky gets a letter from I forget where, but basically says there's like a Broadway scout that's going to come out and watch the show.

1475
01:55:08,068 --> 01:55:15,748
So they're all waiting for their big break that, unfortunately, Guffman never comes and they're still they're still waiting.

1476
01:55:16,168 --> 01:55:20,768
But I'm filled with with songs that will stay in your head.

1477
01:55:20,968 --> 01:55:32,068
And the songs about, you know, I just maybe laugh what what I what I get is just part of the dialogue that blame Missouri is the stool capital of the USA.

1478
01:55:32,588 --> 01:55:35,968
And what I hear the word stool of irony.

1479
01:55:36,068 --> 01:55:36,408
Yeah.

1480
01:55:36,548 --> 01:55:41,768
Well, your stool, you know, you think of shit and you know, it's just great.

1481
01:55:41,868 --> 01:55:42,668
I don't know, man.

1482
01:55:43,208 --> 01:55:45,728
I don't know why I thought of that like right away.

1483
01:55:45,748 --> 01:56:03,268
But, you know, this being a small town as it is, them being this excited about their biggest claim to fame is that President McKinley came in and I was on his iron horse, a train to stop there by mistake or something in the game, the gift of a stool.

1484
01:56:03,508 --> 01:56:10,128
And ever since then, this was their top industry was making these stools and them making this play about this.

1485
01:56:10,508 --> 01:56:12,748
Again, there's a level of patheticness here that you're endeared by.

1486
01:56:17,768 --> 01:56:20,568
But at the same time you feel bad for these people.

1487
01:56:21,048 --> 01:56:27,188
So it leaves you with that feeling of, you know, how am I supposed to feel here?

1488
01:56:28,188 --> 01:56:29,688
You don't know what you're supposed to feel.

1489
01:56:29,708 --> 01:56:32,668
And that's what I kind of literally love about this movie.

1490
01:56:32,748 --> 01:56:35,388
I'm going to watch it more times for sure.

1491
01:56:35,408 --> 01:56:41,568
But yeah, I mean, right from the opening scene, it sets up the idiocy of this town.

1492
01:56:41,588 --> 01:56:47,568
I mean, literally, they're talking about setting up snipers to deter kids from throwing eggs.

1493
01:56:48,248 --> 01:56:49,188
Are you serious?

1494
01:56:49,288 --> 01:56:51,568
You're going to answer egg throwing with murder?

1495
01:56:51,748 --> 01:56:52,628
Holy crap.

1496
01:56:52,968 --> 01:56:59,328
And we can't have the porta potty too far away because the seniors can't get there in time.

1497
01:57:01,608 --> 01:57:03,908
Well, it is the stool capital of the world, right?

1498
01:57:05,088 --> 01:57:06,348
It all goes back to shit.

1499
01:57:06,368 --> 01:57:07,268
It does.

1500
01:57:07,288 --> 01:57:16,548
I do got to say though, and I know this is probably part of the comedy of the whole thing, but man, did Corky overreact to that letter?

1501
01:57:16,988 --> 01:57:22,108
I mean, all the letters said that they were sending a scout to kind of watch their show.

1502
01:57:22,128 --> 01:57:22,568
That was it.

1503
01:57:22,828 --> 01:57:27,508
And instantly Corky tells the rest of the production, we might go to Broadway.

1504
01:57:27,568 --> 01:57:33,808
It's like, whoa, how did you get that out of that one telegram from this agency?

1505
01:57:33,828 --> 01:57:35,448
It's like, yes, he's coming down.

1506
01:57:35,608 --> 01:57:36,908
Yes, he's going to watch it.

1507
01:57:37,208 --> 01:57:39,928
Might give you some pointers, some notes, things like that.

1508
01:57:40,108 --> 01:57:49,988
But Corky, of all people, should have known that more Guffman isn't coming down there potentially with a contract to sign them to Broadway.

1509
01:57:50,008 --> 01:57:50,668
You know what I mean?

1510
01:57:51,428 --> 01:57:55,588
It's a little overzealous on Corky's part, but again, that's probably part of the comedy.

1511
01:57:55,588 --> 01:57:57,188
So I tend to accept it.

1512
01:57:58,108 --> 01:58:03,948
Yeah, it's very, like you said, the whole thing just starts off the wall a bit.

1513
01:58:04,708 --> 01:58:10,928
And I mean, even the town itself, the existence of the town itself is a bit off the wall, though, isn't it?

1514
01:58:11,468 --> 01:58:13,568
Do you smell that salt air?

1515
01:58:13,588 --> 01:58:15,488
And they're like, oh, we're in California.

1516
01:58:18,368 --> 01:58:18,968
Oh, my God.

1517
01:58:18,988 --> 01:58:23,668
That should be the back the back story for like the Simpson Springfield or something.

1518
01:58:28,368 --> 01:58:30,988
He smelled salt and said, hey, we're in California.

1519
01:58:31,008 --> 01:58:32,008
We're in California.

1520
01:58:32,508 --> 01:58:33,168
Oh, my God.

1521
01:58:33,168 --> 01:58:40,688
And the whole thing of, and he, you know, he managed to, you know, convince them for a couple of months.

1522
01:58:41,608 --> 01:58:42,668
It was low tide.

1523
01:58:50,548 --> 01:58:52,408
Well, they just decided to stay there.

1524
01:58:55,668 --> 01:58:57,068
And name the town after him.

1525
01:59:01,848 --> 01:59:08,268
And damn, if that councilwoman isn't proud to be, you know, that was my great, great, great, great grandfather.

1526
01:59:08,288 --> 01:59:11,108
I'm like, I don't know if I'd be proud of that.

1527
01:59:11,168 --> 01:59:15,848
But she's one of the original blames, one of the original blames, you know.

1528
01:59:16,668 --> 01:59:17,228
Oh, man.

1529
01:59:18,388 --> 01:59:25,708
You know, I may be talking about how this is one of my least favorite Christopher Guest movies, but that doesn't mean that it's not wall to wall laughs throughout.

1530
01:59:25,728 --> 01:59:31,848
It's just, you know, maybe the laughs don't always resonate with me as much as some of his other films.

1531
01:59:31,868 --> 01:59:33,248
But I mean, don't let it be denied.

1532
01:59:33,268 --> 01:59:35,968
This movie is still an absolute comedy classic.

1533
01:59:36,148 --> 01:59:42,648
It's still incredibly funny, incredibly well made, and well, well worth anyone's time.

1534
01:59:43,868 --> 01:59:47,168
Like I said, I don't want to make it sound like I'm coming in negative on the movie.

1535
01:59:47,188 --> 01:59:47,728
Not at all.

1536
01:59:47,748 --> 01:59:51,288
I still, still really, really, really like this movie.

1537
01:59:51,468 --> 01:59:56,108
To say that it's my least favorite Christopher Guest is actually a compliment because I do love the movie.

1538
01:59:56,128 --> 01:59:56,548
I own it.

1539
01:59:56,588 --> 01:59:57,528
I own the Blu-ray.

1540
01:59:57,828 --> 02:00:00,548
Like I said, I tend to watch it periodically still.

1541
02:00:00,568 --> 02:00:02,288
It's just not the one that I watch the most.

1542
02:00:02,408 --> 02:00:07,548
So, I mean, that says a lot about, you know, my feelings for Christopher Guest and his filmmaking.

1543
02:00:07,808 --> 02:00:08,868
It's not your go-to.

1544
02:00:09,168 --> 02:00:09,688
Exactly.

1545
02:00:09,708 --> 02:00:10,528
It's just not my go-to.

1546
02:00:10,548 --> 02:00:10,888
That's all.

1547
02:00:11,168 --> 02:00:14,428
I prefer Friday the 13th, part four, to Friday the 13th, part seven.

1548
02:00:14,448 --> 02:00:16,408
Doesn't mean I still love part seven.

1549
02:00:19,788 --> 02:00:21,528
I think this is a fun thing.

1550
02:00:23,268 --> 02:00:27,688
I was just going to say that if you own the Blu-ray, there's also a lot of great scenes that were cut out.

1551
02:00:27,728 --> 02:00:37,528
Obviously, I mean, you know, we already have mentioned multiple times about how he had over 60 hours of footage to put into an hour and 25 minute long movie.

1552
02:00:37,928 --> 02:00:41,268
So there's obviously going to be some great, great scenes that are cut out.

1553
02:00:41,288 --> 02:00:47,708
But yeah, there's still a couple of really, really like classic, almost one liners and great scenes.

1554
02:00:47,728 --> 02:00:52,888
Like I really wish they would have put the Fred Willard and Catherine O'Hare baseball scene in the movie.

1555
02:00:53,328 --> 02:00:55,208
I absolutely love that scene.

1556
02:00:55,228 --> 02:01:05,708
Basically, Fred Willard's character, we don't really find out in the theatrical version of the movie, but in the deleted scenes, we find out that he's a big baseball buff, like a historian, like a baseball historian.

1557
02:01:05,968 --> 02:01:10,448
And he actually recreates the last at bat of the 1960 World Series.

1558
02:01:10,788 --> 02:01:30,308
And what's great about it is that he's enthusiastic and smiling and telling the story, but his wife, Catherine O'Hare, is drunk out of her mind and constantly just rolling her eyes every time he states a new fact to the point where he actually asks her to come and, you know, cause they're playing with a whiffle ball and a whiffle bat.

1559
02:01:30,668 --> 02:01:39,828
And he basically asks her to come and pitch, you know, give him a nice easy pitch to hit so that he can recreate that last at bat of that World Series, the Pittsburgh Pirates, of course, winning that one.

1560
02:01:40,328 --> 02:01:48,968
And the first time she throws the ball, she throws it right at his damn head because she's just got this look of, I don't want to deal with your shit right now.

1561
02:01:49,208 --> 02:01:50,828
You know, her eyes are half closed.

1562
02:01:50,848 --> 02:01:53,568
She looks like she'd rather be anywhere else in the world.

1563
02:01:54,008 --> 02:01:56,568
And then finally, she gives him a pitch that he could hit.

1564
02:01:57,048 --> 02:02:00,548
He does his hitting it out of the park and running around the bases.

1565
02:02:00,808 --> 02:02:04,288
And she literally just walks out of the scene in frustration.

1566
02:02:04,788 --> 02:02:11,568
And you can still see her way in the background as he continues, as Fred Willard's character continues to talk about baseball.

1567
02:02:11,728 --> 02:02:15,528
And she's way in the background just like, when will he shut up?

1568
02:02:16,868 --> 02:02:19,448
That is the scene I really, it's a little bit long.

1569
02:02:19,468 --> 02:02:22,008
It's like a six minute scene, which is going to add a lot.

1570
02:02:22,048 --> 02:02:24,468
But, you know, to the duration of the film.

1571
02:02:24,488 --> 02:02:26,608
But man, do I wish they left that in there.

1572
02:02:26,628 --> 02:02:32,508
There's also another deleted scene with Corky telling the story of whales, for some reason.

1573
02:02:32,528 --> 02:02:38,168
And he ends the story with one of the greatest one-liners that I'm so upset is not in the actual film.

1574
02:02:38,488 --> 02:02:43,688
He looks dead in the camera and says, I'd love to ride the back of sperm whale, among other things.

1575
02:02:44,988 --> 02:02:49,708
It's literally the gayest thing he said in the whole production, and they cut it out of the movie.

1576
02:02:49,708 --> 02:02:50,388
I was so upset.

1577
02:02:54,908 --> 02:03:10,488
Oh, and then, now, the reason why I tend to say that even these deleted scenes aren't as good as some of the ones from, like, Best in Show and Mighty Wind is because in the deleted scene is the full production of Red, White and Blaine.

1578
02:03:10,788 --> 02:03:13,448
It's literally a 40-minute play.

1579
02:03:13,788 --> 02:03:20,208
What we get in, like, what, five, six, seven minutes in the theatrical version is actually a 40-minute scene.

1580
02:03:20,628 --> 02:03:33,168
And some of the songs, and I'm gonna point out one specifically, the boring song, the one about nothing ever happens in Blaine, the whole version of that song is absolutely insipid and unlistenable.

1581
02:03:33,528 --> 02:03:37,768
Like, I wanted to pull my damn ears off halfway through the song.

1582
02:03:38,208 --> 02:03:47,488
It's just so great that Christopher Guest knows exactly how much of a bad song to leave in the movie so that it's still entertaining and not irritating.

1583
02:03:47,608 --> 02:03:49,888
Because holy shit, that whole song is irritating.

1584
02:03:51,588 --> 02:03:56,148
But yeah, well worth a Blu-ray purchase just to get these deleted scenes.

1585
02:03:56,168 --> 02:03:57,788
There's over a half hour of them.

1586
02:03:58,388 --> 02:04:01,788
I think it's like 34 minutes total of just deleted scenes.

1587
02:04:01,828 --> 02:04:07,068
And then the commentary with Christopher Guest and Eugene Levy is absolutely classic.

1588
02:04:07,088 --> 02:04:10,048
So yeah, well worth your 10, 15 bucks.

1589
02:04:10,268 --> 02:04:10,988
Highly recommend.

1590
02:04:11,808 --> 02:04:12,748
Nice, nice.

1591
02:04:12,768 --> 02:04:20,528
Yeah, I just love how quirky in this movie is so out of place with everybody else and everywhere he goes.

1592
02:04:20,548 --> 02:04:27,888
I mean, he claims to have a wife, so he can shop for women's clothes and they'd not be looked upon as weird.

1593
02:04:27,908 --> 02:04:34,208
But he has, just to describe his look, he has a bold haircut with his beard going on and he has a lisp.

1594
02:04:34,608 --> 02:04:39,828
So that doesn't tell you anything that's stereotypically, you know, homosexual possibly, you know.

1595
02:04:40,688 --> 02:04:42,028
Don't forget the earring.

1596
02:04:42,408 --> 02:04:44,828
And the earring, yes, the gauge in his ear.

1597
02:04:47,368 --> 02:04:49,528
To the point, I love it.

1598
02:04:49,548 --> 02:04:50,948
It's a real small fucking thing.

1599
02:04:50,968 --> 02:04:54,168
It makes Brian Doyle Mauricio of this movie.

1600
02:04:54,508 --> 02:05:09,428
When he goes to the mechanic shop to get the young, to get the young, you know, I guess, thing to be in the play, Brian Doyle Mauricio gives him this look like, you know, why are you looking at my son like that, queer?

1601
02:05:09,768 --> 02:05:10,968
Basically, you know.

1602
02:05:10,988 --> 02:05:13,468
It's like, who the fuck is this guy?

1603
02:05:14,188 --> 02:05:16,388
It's like, did you put that fan belt on that car?

1604
02:05:19,688 --> 02:05:21,828
Oh, yeah, a little shit like that.

1605
02:05:22,828 --> 02:05:24,248
I can't get enough of...

1606
02:05:25,048 --> 02:05:30,568
Brian Doyle Murray is one of those guys that makes me laugh just by standing there.

1607
02:05:30,588 --> 02:05:34,008
I don't know what it is about him, but he doesn't even need a line.

1608
02:05:34,088 --> 02:05:40,108
Like, when he was just standing there staring at his son while Corky was asking him to be in the show, I was losing it.

1609
02:05:40,588 --> 02:05:44,008
I'm just like, holy shit, that is some great face acting right there.

1610
02:05:44,348 --> 02:05:49,608
And I see it all the time with him, because he's never really been, like, the star of a film.

1611
02:05:49,628 --> 02:05:53,868
He's always, like, a second player in the film.

1612
02:05:53,968 --> 02:05:56,948
But any film that he's in, it just...

1613
02:05:56,988 --> 02:05:58,528
He ends up stealing the scene.

1614
02:05:58,548 --> 02:06:04,488
He steals the scene in Scrooge, when he actually is playing opposite his son in the flashback scene.

1615
02:06:04,508 --> 02:06:08,888
I just, man, he is an underappreciated treasure.

1616
02:06:09,508 --> 02:06:11,868
Why don't you get a job and get a choo-choo?

1617
02:06:13,948 --> 02:06:14,568
So good.

1618
02:06:18,408 --> 02:06:21,688
Oh, I forgot to mention, there's actually a great deleted scene on here.

1619
02:06:22,468 --> 02:06:23,768
This is one of the long ones.

1620
02:06:24,128 --> 02:06:26,508
It's almost like an eight-minute long deleted scene.

1621
02:06:26,728 --> 02:06:35,428
But basically, it's Corky going around to all the different homes and places of business businesses to let the actors know they got the role.

1622
02:06:35,768 --> 02:06:37,768
Apparently, Corky doesn't call people.

1623
02:06:37,788 --> 02:06:39,468
He doesn't do telegrams or anything.

1624
02:06:39,488 --> 02:06:41,388
He literally likes to do it face to face.

1625
02:06:41,408 --> 02:06:50,168
So at the beginning of the scene, he pulls up to the drive-through at Dairy Queen, orders a Coke, and then lets Parker Posey know that she got the role.

1626
02:06:50,888 --> 02:06:53,308
Everybody in the Dairy Queen goes crazy.

1627
02:06:53,708 --> 02:06:59,288
He then goes to the travel agency with Catherine O'Hare and Fred Willard.

1628
02:06:59,548 --> 02:07:04,008
With them, because they've worked in productions together, he doesn't even get out of his car.

1629
02:07:04,028 --> 02:07:10,928
He literally pulls up to the front of their travel agency, beeps the horn, and then just gives the thumbs up and drives away.

1630
02:07:11,108 --> 02:07:14,988
And you could see Fred and Catherine do their little bit of a celebration.

1631
02:07:15,908 --> 02:07:19,728
And then the scene ends with him going to Eugene Levy's dentist office.

1632
02:07:20,068 --> 02:07:26,968
And that's the high point of this scene, because Eugene Levy is literally in the middle of giving anesthetic to an older gentleman.

1633
02:07:27,068 --> 02:07:28,568
He looks like an octogenarian.

1634
02:07:28,828 --> 02:07:34,268
And he literally, as soon as Corky walks in and tells him that he got the role, you know, he starts freaking out.

1635
02:07:34,288 --> 02:07:36,368
He didn't think he had a chance, you know, blah, blah, blah.

1636
02:07:37,408 --> 02:07:44,208
And then ends up forgetting about the old man in the chair with the mask, with the CO2 mask still on his head.

1637
02:07:44,428 --> 02:07:45,888
Hopefully the man didn't die.

1638
02:07:45,908 --> 02:07:47,288
We don't see the rest of it.

1639
02:07:47,548 --> 02:07:52,648
But it just literally the fact that at the end of the scene, he walks out the door and says, Oh, I forgot about this guy.

1640
02:07:53,148 --> 02:07:55,848
He still had the CO2 mask on his face.

1641
02:07:56,308 --> 02:07:58,528
Excuse me, the not CO2.

1642
02:07:58,548 --> 02:07:59,328
It's the nitrogen.

1643
02:07:59,608 --> 02:08:00,208
Nitrogen.

1644
02:08:00,228 --> 02:08:00,728
Thank you.

1645
02:08:00,768 --> 02:08:01,428
CO2.

1646
02:08:01,448 --> 02:08:02,688
I'm thinking of fucking cars.

1647
02:08:02,968 --> 02:08:05,408
Well, I'm like, yeah, he's dead if he had CO2.

1648
02:08:07,328 --> 02:08:08,428
That old guy's dead.

1649
02:08:10,808 --> 02:08:11,748
Oh, yeah.

1650
02:08:11,768 --> 02:08:17,308
Like I said, this this goddamn movie, I would love to see like a three or four hour cut of this movie.

1651
02:08:17,448 --> 02:08:27,008
Assuming there was enough funny scenes filmed, this would be a Saturday afternoon I would love to spend, you know, with any of his films, with the full versions, with like all the footage.

1652
02:08:27,248 --> 02:08:29,048
Obviously, everything's not going to be gold.

1653
02:08:29,068 --> 02:08:34,868
There's going to be plenty of takes that where nothing is funny or the actors couldn't think of a good line, whatever the case may be.

1654
02:08:34,888 --> 02:08:43,608
But anything that's even mildly entertaining, I mean, he could probably put like a three or four hour cut of some of his films together, and it would still be endlessly entertaining.

1655
02:08:43,628 --> 02:08:46,388
So, you know, for a chance to dream.

1656
02:08:47,548 --> 02:08:49,588
I totally agree with you, man.

1657
02:08:49,628 --> 02:08:50,468
I think that Dr.

1658
02:08:50,488 --> 02:09:02,468
Pearl, Eugene Levy, is probably the least pathetic one, you know, to come out at the end of this, because even when the play was shut down, he's like, well, I just went back to my life again of, you know, being a doctor.

1659
02:09:02,488 --> 02:09:09,148
And, you know, I hope it goes back, but if it doesn't, you know, it's not that big of a deal to him, you know.

1660
02:09:09,168 --> 02:09:10,508
You could see the heartbreak.

1661
02:09:10,528 --> 02:09:17,828
You could see the heartbreak in his eyes because it was, he was finally doing what he wanted to do all his life.

1662
02:09:18,228 --> 02:09:19,688
And he got taken away from him.

1663
02:09:19,728 --> 02:09:23,068
But even Parker Posey, you know, Levy goes ahead.

1664
02:09:23,408 --> 02:09:30,068
I was just gonna say, Eugene Levy is another one that, thank God, they didn't include this deleted scene in the theatrical version.

1665
02:09:30,468 --> 02:09:44,488
But in the deleted scene, in the more extended cut of his post-interview, he actually does let us know that he and his wife separated because she had no interest in moving to Miami for him to become a lounge singer.

1666
02:09:45,628 --> 02:09:48,268
Yeah, so it's like he takes it well.

1667
02:09:48,328 --> 02:09:50,128
He's like, well, I'm living my dream.

1668
02:09:50,148 --> 02:09:53,368
I don't have my wife, but I'm living my dream, so I guess that's a good thing.

1669
02:09:53,688 --> 02:10:00,068
So he still has a good attitude about it, but I just feel bad that, you know, he kind of lost his wife just because he wanted to, you know, follow his dream.

1670
02:10:00,368 --> 02:10:00,968
Kind of sucks.

1671
02:10:02,448 --> 02:10:19,748
I mean, I mentioned, you know, that Parker Posey's kind of pathetic in this movie in the sense that she has the Dairy Queen to look forward to, but there's that one small scene where she's describing what she does as a Dairy Queen, and, you know, she's kind of proud that she puts blizzards together.

1672
02:10:19,748 --> 02:10:22,068
So it's not like she's thinking this is a bad thing.

1673
02:10:22,088 --> 02:10:47,508
It's just, you know, like you said, there's that crest fall moment for all these people to where she said, well, I guess they'll always take it back at the Dairy Queen, but she had pride in this job, even though it's a small thing, to the point of when she moves back to go live with her father in Alabama or something, I think this is Alabama, that she goes to work at another Dairy Queen.

1674
02:10:47,528 --> 02:10:50,348
It's like, yeah, this is just something she likes to do.

1675
02:10:50,368 --> 02:10:52,648
You know, make people happy with ice cream.

1676
02:10:52,668 --> 02:10:59,528
And I think it's funny that you mentioned there's a deleted scene where the way he tells her she got the play was to go to the drive-thru and get a Coke.

1677
02:10:59,928 --> 02:11:04,748
That's one of the things that she mentions in her little, you know, I have pride that I work at Dairy Queen speeches.

1678
02:11:04,768 --> 02:11:07,968
Like if you want, if you're just thirsty, come get a Coke at the drive-thru, you know?

1679
02:11:08,028 --> 02:11:10,068
It's one of the small things, you know?

1680
02:11:10,508 --> 02:11:11,088
Absolutely.

1681
02:11:11,108 --> 02:11:12,488
No, definitely.

1682
02:11:12,788 --> 02:11:16,608
You know, I would never think to call any of these people quote unquote losers.

1683
02:11:16,628 --> 02:11:17,148
Not at all.

1684
02:11:17,228 --> 02:11:17,528
No.

1685
02:11:17,548 --> 02:11:20,448
If they're happy in their life, then they're happy in hell.

1686
02:11:20,628 --> 02:11:24,668
They're happy, they're probably happier than most of us living in a house making good money.

1687
02:11:24,668 --> 02:11:26,468
So, you know, rock on to them.

1688
02:11:27,728 --> 02:11:29,668
No, I forgot this.

1689
02:11:30,148 --> 02:11:39,668
The part in the beginning of the play, the first song in Corky, doesn't want the doctor to wear his glasses because they didn't exist in 18 wherever the hell it is.

1690
02:11:39,988 --> 02:11:41,588
Oh, God, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1691
02:11:41,588 --> 02:11:47,068
He's explaining the one, he's got the one crossed eye because the glasses fixed this.

1692
02:11:47,708 --> 02:11:59,328
But when they put that big, they put that fucking big amount of guy liner on the guys in these movies, he has it all up in his eyes, that crossed eye just sticks out like a sore thumb and I can't stop laughing.

1693
02:11:59,348 --> 02:12:02,648
Yeah, that is the most epic, lazy eye I have ever seen.

1694
02:12:02,668 --> 02:12:03,828
That was amazing.

1695
02:12:05,108 --> 02:12:08,948
Oh, man, this little shit makes you laugh in this movie.

1696
02:12:08,968 --> 02:12:09,508
No, it's true.

1697
02:12:09,528 --> 02:12:22,548
This movie is, I mean, this along with all Christopher Guest movies are just filled with these little moments that, you know, we all end up falling in love with, either because they're, you know, charming, heartwarming, or just because they're gustingly funny.

1698
02:12:22,828 --> 02:12:31,208
And, you know, again, the genius of Christopher Guest, you know, at display here, and for many more films after this, too.

1699
02:12:31,228 --> 02:12:34,788
So I'm glad he didn't have a short career because I love my Machiavelli.

1700
02:12:35,128 --> 02:12:38,368
Stool Capitol of the USA.

1701
02:12:38,408 --> 02:12:43,808
I would be, I would consider myself a happy man if I could visit the stool capital of the United States.

1702
02:12:45,548 --> 02:12:47,088
I don't know, I think it'd be a little shitty.

1703
02:12:54,428 --> 02:12:56,188
God, you walked right into that one.

1704
02:12:56,208 --> 02:12:56,868
There you go.

1705
02:12:57,968 --> 02:13:00,228
I did not plan on setting her up that well.

1706
02:13:00,588 --> 02:13:02,788
You stepped into that really well.

1707
02:13:03,068 --> 02:13:04,028
Oh, she's still going.

1708
02:13:09,488 --> 02:13:10,028
Much like.

1709
02:13:10,228 --> 02:13:12,128
I miss podcasting with you guys.

1710
02:13:12,288 --> 02:13:12,748
I do.

1711
02:13:12,768 --> 02:13:14,268
You know, me too, man.

1712
02:13:14,908 --> 02:13:19,228
A lot of films like this, you know, the budget was four million.

1713
02:13:19,248 --> 02:13:21,528
It only made 2.9 billion.

1714
02:13:22,148 --> 02:13:26,128
Four million only made 2.9 million in the box office.

1715
02:13:26,148 --> 02:13:30,648
But, you know, this had a following that I've heard about for years.

1716
02:13:31,308 --> 02:13:33,148
And I've never seen it before.

1717
02:13:33,768 --> 02:13:39,228
I know a lot of my friends who are in musical theater, whether in high school or beyond.

1718
02:13:39,248 --> 02:13:41,448
And I worked the stage crew.

1719
02:13:41,468 --> 02:13:45,308
So I've seen a lot of these personalities, you know, pop out like this.

1720
02:13:45,328 --> 02:13:51,928
You know, divas, semi stars, you know, you know, whatever you want to call it.

1721
02:13:51,948 --> 02:13:53,688
But yeah, it's one of those things.

1722
02:13:53,708 --> 02:14:00,088
It's like in every one of these movies where the characters they're portraying are not that far off from the real thing.

1723
02:14:00,108 --> 02:14:03,128
And I've known people who have had show...

1724
02:14:03,728 --> 02:14:18,388
My friend's mother was in the show dog industry and best in show, much like, you know, Spinal Tapping Musicians is hard to watch sometimes because the whole idea of them getting lost on the way to the stage is a very real thing.

1725
02:14:18,428 --> 02:14:23,208
And the idea of the personalities of these people who have these fucking dogs is a very real thing.

1726
02:14:23,228 --> 02:14:29,788
These musical theater people types, you know, like Corky, they're not non-existent.

1727
02:14:30,248 --> 02:14:44,488
And if that's all that he knows, that's all he cares about, and, you know, if it doesn't go his way, he's literally going to go bite his pillow, apparently, because, you know, just throwing the gay shit out there again, you know, man, it's so funny, though.

1728
02:14:45,068 --> 02:14:48,568
Oh, I'll kick it to you, Venom.

1729
02:14:48,728 --> 02:14:50,148
Any final thoughts?

1730
02:14:50,468 --> 02:14:52,928
And rating one to 10, sir.

1731
02:14:53,528 --> 02:14:54,608
Oh, final thoughts.

1732
02:14:54,648 --> 02:14:59,168
I mean, as with all Christopher Guest movies, it's an absolute comedy classic.

1733
02:14:59,948 --> 02:15:09,108
It may not make you laugh as much as some of his others, or this one might make you laugh more than his others, depending on, you know, your interests and just how it hits you when you watch it.

1734
02:15:10,008 --> 02:15:12,308
Still great one-liners through and through.

1735
02:15:12,888 --> 02:15:19,848
One last scene that I actually wanted to highlight before we finish off here was Fred Willard and Catherine O'Hare's audition.

1736
02:15:20,048 --> 02:15:24,608
And part of the reason that I love this scene is that I recognize the dialogue.

1737
02:15:25,068 --> 02:15:27,988
I'm old enough to recognize where that dialogue is coming from.

1738
02:15:28,268 --> 02:15:39,928
Iris might be right there with me, but basically they sing Midnight At The Oasis, but they're also doing a live action like skit with dialogue while they're doing the song.

1739
02:15:40,008 --> 02:15:42,148
Do you know where that dialogue comes from, Iris?

1740
02:15:42,508 --> 02:15:44,768
Oh my God, it sounds familiar, but...

1741
02:15:45,808 --> 02:15:49,848
It's from a Taster's Choice commercial from 1979.

1742
02:15:49,868 --> 02:15:50,988
Oh my God.

1743
02:15:51,088 --> 02:16:00,848
And the first time I watched this movie and I heard Catherine O'Hare speaking in the British accent and saying the lines, I'm like, wait a minute, why is this so familiar?

1744
02:16:01,088 --> 02:16:10,828
Like, I thought, you know, obviously, since I know nothing about musical theater, I thought it was actually, the first time I watched this movie, I actually thought it was part of the song, Midnight At The Oasis.

1745
02:16:10,848 --> 02:16:14,448
I thought that was just like a classic presentation of that song.

1746
02:16:14,468 --> 02:16:28,048
But no, I find out later, more recently really, only over the last few years, that this is actually a combination of Midnight At The Oasis, which by the way, they got to use because Christopher Guest is personal friends with the man who wrote the song.

1747
02:16:28,328 --> 02:16:30,428
So that's why they're able to put the song in the movie.

1748
02:16:30,508 --> 02:16:37,028
And then the other thing is the fact that it's combined with the dialogue from a Taster's Choice commercial.

1749
02:16:37,208 --> 02:16:45,208
It's such a quirky, silly thing that most people won't notice, but the fact that I noticed it just, it blew my mind the first time I saw it.

1750
02:16:45,288 --> 02:16:57,708
And honestly, very few people know where that dialogue comes from, because not a lot of people watching movies like this were around, or at least were almost adults in 1979.

1751
02:16:57,728 --> 02:16:59,288
Exactly, exactly.

1752
02:17:01,108 --> 02:17:01,588
So cool.

1753
02:17:01,848 --> 02:17:06,668
So anyway, rating, I mean, I'm not gonna give this a low rating.

1754
02:17:06,688 --> 02:17:10,748
Like I said, this is not my, I still recognize its brilliance.

1755
02:17:10,748 --> 02:17:13,068
I recognize its comedic triumph.

1756
02:17:13,588 --> 02:17:15,928
I recognize its amazing filmmaking.

1757
02:17:16,568 --> 02:17:25,988
Just almost everything about it works for me in every way, with the little minor caveats that I kind of discussed during this podcast.

1758
02:17:26,008 --> 02:17:33,188
So I'm gonna come in with this one with an 8.5 out of 10, whereas most Christopher Guest movies for me are nines and above.

1759
02:17:33,208 --> 02:17:39,288
Like I said, this one is just a half a step below, but still a very solid 8.5 out of 10.

1760
02:17:39,608 --> 02:17:40,608
Cool, Iris.

1761
02:17:41,088 --> 02:17:44,188
Okay, well, for me, like I said, I do enjoy this one.

1762
02:17:44,208 --> 02:17:45,588
I do enjoy this one a lot.

1763
02:17:45,788 --> 02:17:47,128
It's quirky.

1764
02:17:47,148 --> 02:17:51,128
Kind of like with you, Gary, I know a lot of people like this.

1765
02:17:51,868 --> 02:18:07,268
You know, the overachiever theater guy, the one who wants to be funny but really isn't, the ones that, you know, like, well, we're in every production, so we are the king and queen of the theater.

1766
02:18:07,748 --> 02:18:08,728
Every single person.

1767
02:18:09,248 --> 02:18:15,608
Even the jealous music director because he's the one that should be directing the show.

1768
02:18:17,008 --> 02:18:25,188
So it's funny, it's quirky, it's real life to me at some points because it's just such funny shit.

1769
02:18:25,908 --> 02:18:28,548
So I am going to give this a nine.

1770
02:18:28,568 --> 02:18:29,268
Nice.

1771
02:18:29,548 --> 02:18:31,788
Yeah, it's the first time I'm watching it.

1772
02:18:31,808 --> 02:18:33,548
I don't want to give the rating too high.

1773
02:18:33,568 --> 02:18:35,428
I do really enjoy it.

1774
02:18:35,448 --> 02:18:46,628
I'm with Venom on the 8.5 and I'll say one thing, a fun double bill with this, if you guys haven't seen it yet, please watch it soon.

1775
02:18:46,648 --> 02:19:01,088
It's Hamlet 2 with Steve Coogan where he plays a high school drama teacher who writes a play for Inner City Use which is a sequel to Hamlet that involves time travel and Jesus Christ.

1776
02:19:01,108 --> 02:19:08,468
It's just a quirky comedy and I think they would be really enjoyable together.

1777
02:19:08,488 --> 02:19:11,928
I'm going to watch that soon, actually.

1778
02:19:12,028 --> 02:19:13,328
I miss that fucking movie.

1779
02:19:14,188 --> 02:19:22,648
This one fits, again, I just watched it today for the first time and already it fits right in the pantheon of the rest of these.

1780
02:19:23,388 --> 02:19:24,908
It just fits there.

1781
02:19:24,928 --> 02:19:30,688
I think it's the people involved and them being able to work together, because that helps.

1782
02:19:31,428 --> 02:19:38,508
The chemistry of the actors, if they didn't have that, it would never work amongst anything.

1783
02:19:39,468 --> 02:19:45,348
It works so well in this movie, even if it's not your favorite, like Venom said, because of the subject matter.

1784
02:19:45,368 --> 02:19:48,628
But like I said, he makes you give a shit about the subject matter.

1785
02:19:49,148 --> 02:19:54,588
And that's hard for me to say, especially with like a mighty wind, to make me give a shit about folk music.

1786
02:19:55,008 --> 02:19:57,668
But I gave a shit about folk music by the way that movie was over.

1787
02:19:58,888 --> 02:19:59,368
Exactly.

1788
02:19:59,608 --> 02:20:02,528
But yeah, it's really enjoyable, 8.5.

1789
02:20:03,048 --> 02:20:05,308
And that's it for this one.

1790
02:20:05,328 --> 02:20:07,768
We'll see you guys right after this break.

1791
02:20:08,148 --> 02:20:09,788
This will keep you quiet.

1792
02:20:10,108 --> 02:20:11,068
Oh, hi there.

1793
02:20:11,088 --> 02:20:12,128
I didn't see you.

1794
02:20:12,268 --> 02:20:13,968
You call me cutting a new show.

1795
02:20:14,488 --> 02:20:19,308
I'm Bo Ransdell and I'm one of the many creators you can find on Legion Podcasts.

1796
02:20:20,788 --> 02:20:21,488
I said quiet.

1797
02:20:24,028 --> 02:20:27,948
My fellow podcasters and I work hard to bring you the best in horror podcasting.

1798
02:20:28,268 --> 02:20:29,688
But that comes at a cost.

1799
02:20:35,808 --> 02:20:46,108
No, what I'm getting at is that there are server costs, costs for good microphones and software for editing, all the things that make our shows, you know, fun to listen to and you can help.

1800
02:20:46,808 --> 02:21:01,988
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1801
02:21:02,668 --> 02:21:11,588
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1802
02:21:12,168 --> 02:21:16,188
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1803
02:21:17,028 --> 02:21:19,108
We appreciate it and thank you for listening.

1804
02:21:19,528 --> 02:21:21,568
Now, back to the cutting room.

1805
02:21:23,948 --> 02:21:25,968
Well, kids, did you enjoy the show?

1806
02:21:25,988 --> 02:21:45,108
I sure as hell love making this show and I think that, you know, all my love and all the people involved in this episode has proven that and I hate to use the word rejuvenated me as a podcaster, but you're only good as your support team, in my opinion.

1807
02:21:45,128 --> 02:21:47,688
At least I made solo shows out there.

1808
02:21:47,688 --> 02:21:48,908
So thank you, Ricky.

1809
02:21:49,328 --> 02:21:50,128
Thank you, X.

1810
02:21:50,488 --> 02:21:51,448
Thank you, Iris.

1811
02:21:51,968 --> 02:21:52,748
Thank you, Mr.

1812
02:21:52,768 --> 02:21:54,288
Venom.

1813
02:21:54,728 --> 02:21:56,708
You'll hear some of these people on the next episode.

1814
02:21:56,708 --> 02:21:58,028
And thank you to Suzanne.

1815
02:21:58,048 --> 02:21:58,668
How dare I?

1816
02:21:58,688 --> 02:21:59,728
Thank you, Suzanne.

1817
02:22:00,368 --> 02:22:03,908
You'll hear some of these people on the next episode for sure.

1818
02:22:05,808 --> 02:22:08,988
Bo Ransdell will be here with Mr.

1819
02:22:09,008 --> 02:22:12,808
Venom to discuss Best In Show with us and the full crew on that one.

1820
02:22:13,268 --> 02:22:18,448
And at least one smoke show, Scott Crawford, will be here to discuss A Mighty Wind with us.

1821
02:22:19,028 --> 02:22:28,968
And if you guys like that little jab in the middle there, the little surprise, Crippled Theater will be back next episode with Ricky Morgan.

1822
02:22:30,048 --> 02:22:31,868
Ricky Morgan, not of the Rock and Roll Express.

1823
02:22:32,248 --> 02:22:36,188
Ricky Morgan of the Hail Ming Power Hour will be with me again.

1824
02:22:36,208 --> 02:22:36,768
We do Mr.

1825
02:22:36,788 --> 02:22:37,288
No Legs.

1826
02:22:40,568 --> 02:22:47,088
Again, I can't express my gratitude any more than I can, you know, as I am right now.

1827
02:22:47,108 --> 02:22:58,748
I mean, thank you for listening for all this time through hiatuses and lulls and my own stupid fucking brain not working correctly as far as depression and whatever goes.

1828
02:22:59,428 --> 02:23:01,248
But love to you.

1829
02:23:01,268 --> 02:23:06,368
See you guys all next time on part two of The Beef Versus.

1830
02:23:06,388 --> 02:23:07,448
This is Three Parts People.

1831
02:23:08,108 --> 02:23:14,048
And remember, here at the Cinema Beef Podcast, if you've got beef, we've got the grinder.

1832
02:23:14,528 --> 02:23:15,268
See you next time.