No, I'm great.
If I told them once, I told them a hundred times to put spinal tap first and puppet show last.
It's a morale builder, isn't it?
We've got a big dressing room now, isn't it?
You know, we've got a big dressing room.
Oh, we've got a bigger dressing room than the puppets.
Oh, that's refreshing.
Hello, welcome to Cinema Beef Podcast.
I am your host, host with the, not so most, Gary Hill.
Started this thing about eight years ago, and this is the result of it be on a microphone by myself.
Not really though.
This show will bring many folks together that are excited for you to hear their voices.
Most of the time, they talk more than me, which is fine, because the main crux of the show is to celebrate Christopher Guest, and that's what we're doing for the most part with some little additional things for you guys to denounce on.
And what can I say, eight years, man.
I thought of doing this because some of the folks were...
I enjoyed what some other folks were doing, but I listened to their shows, and I can name those shows here, but I'm not going to.
One of which is not with us anymore.
I have to mention him.
Johnny Krueger, you're up there in horror movie heaven somewhere, wherever planning resistance you may be on, whatever it is, no judgment here, but I listened to Krueger Nation first, and I like to think that if it wasn't for that, me enjoying what Johnny did, laying down what he used to do solo, which is hard enough to do as it is, I wouldn't be as exuberant as I am today, because I don't know if you guys know this as a podcaster, I tell folks this often, you know, if we start out, your first 10 shows will probably be terrible, because you don't have confidence in the microphone.
That man had confidence in the microphone, because he loved the content that he talked about.
And when I started this thing, I said, you know what?
There's lots of horror podcasts out there, and if I did just horror, I would just like the rest of them, and I like to single myself out.
If you guys hear some of the programming on some of these shows, sometimes they're really off the wall.
That's because, you know, my tiny brain gets going and the gears get moving and say, you know what?
This would go together sort of well.
Some folks will get it, some folks won't get it, but the joke lands with at least one person.
I feel like doing my job as a podcaster.
Yeah.
So I'll kick off this show.
Usually we do what you've been watching.
So I'm gonna name a couple things that I have been watching.
And do small reviews of them.
And these might be Patreon bonuses, eventually me doing a new horror film in something old that might be terrible, because I like torture myself and not torture others.
So speaking of torturing myself, I did watch the new Ty West film X from this year.
I'm not normally a fan of Ty West.
I think a lot of his slow burns do not work with me.
And my favorite film of his is the one he denied, which is Cabin Fever 2, which is, I think is a lot of fun.
But that's the one that he denies any credit for involvement.
He knows he was involved in it.
But if you haven't seen the previews, this is like a throwback movie that are oh so popular nowadays.
This is written, directed and produced by Ty West.
It stars Mia Goth, Jenny Ortega, Brittany Snow, Kid Cudi, I think you pronounce that guy's name.
He's a rapper, but he's also accent things sometimes.
And some really kooky old folks.
And a certain thing in the water that I'm not gonna give away.
It makes it epic.
Basically, you know, this group of people leave out to go, they rent out this like farm house from these old folks, because they're gonna make a porno people, you know, and they're gonna get their names in lights or some shit like that.
But, and of course things go awry.
The old folks are really weird.
But your cheapo plot synopsis for this movie is, in 1979, a group of young filmmakers set out to make an adult film in rural Texas.
But when their reclusive elderly hosts catch them in the act, the cats find themselves fighting for their lives.
That's yes and no with the plot, because the couple in question, the man is a little frisky, but daddy's a little weirded out that he might have a heart attack if he gets frisky.
So there's a plot here where she finds out what they're doing and she's like, well, I'm gonna get some of that.
And, you know, she just goes on a crazy killing spree.
And I should have said spoilers for that, but I'm sorry.
But there's more to it than that.
And there's, I'll stop my spoilers there, but I'll give some raw generalizations about this movie, but I do, I think it does right.
A lot of these horror films come out now that are sort of like the member berries of horror films.
I mean, if you watch any Rob Zombie film, you could tell where his inspiration came from.
You could tell where Ty West's inspiration came from.
This movie too, it's the same kind of films, but he doesn't, and my friend made a good point.
He liked the film, but it felt more like Toby Hooper's eating alive rather than Texas Chainsaw Massacre, which is just about every film that Rob Zombie's ever made has either been Texas Chainsaw Massacre or in Lord Salem's realm, the Sentinel mixes some other stuff.
And what Ty West does so well here is that he doesn't take direct everything from everything.
Means he's having fun with these characters, although I don't like these characters all that much.
I was hoping for Brittany Snowe to die as soon as, you know, she started talking about making the fake burning orgasms and the icing on the cake is the black guy with an acoustic guitar, her singing Fleetwood Maxx on, on a couch.
Like, yeah, just this girl needs to die.
And spoilers, I get my wish.
But the gore is incredible.
You know, poke in the eye, full frontal male nudity and female nudity.
If you haven't heard, a lot of folks complain about that.
Oh, there's all this female nudity, but no male nudity.
You got, you got hanging down in this movie.
And not the one you want to see, but it's, it's pretty gross.
But the end is really satisfying.
You know, there's one, there's one, you know, there's a survivor and, you know, the conclusion is really amazing.
They talk about, you know, them making your prequel.
Apparently there's an end credit sequence that I did not see where they set it up for the prequel, I guess to tell the origin of this old couple.
And I don't need to know that.
I would rather go unknowing what's going on.
But I think Kyle had it right.
It feels more like eating alive.
Like these people have taken folks in to their, their boarding house in multiple times and killed.
This has happened before with, with the, the him and the wife, you know, having to, you know, do stuff and, you know, I can say if you have a C and X and you're a novice 824 fan like myself, I could take it or leave it.
Certain things are wonderful.
I think a majority of it is pompous bullshit, but this is, this is pretty sly, pretty in your face gore.
And I got, I got to love gore for gore's sake.
It didn't play punches.
It really took that R rating and said, you know what?
We're going to give you stuff that the world looks like fucking a hamburger meat mixed with, you know, red dye number five and possibly some Karo syrup.
Just to be really, really, really, really see that, that, that visceral, you know, yeah, you know, I loved it.
I loved, this is a, this is his best work, I think.
I mean, fuck the innkeepers.
I, and, and yeah, a couple other things, you may, I, I feel this is his best work because there's, I, I'm not a huge fan of the slow burn when it doesn't work for me.
I, I watch the slow burn when it does work, but this, this, you know, like, like, I think you wait a good 45 minutes for the first kill, but when it hits, it fucking hits you like, like a ton of bricks and you're like, yeah, this, this is the film for me.
So, X, if I had to give it a rating right now without watching it, watching it again, I only watched it once.
Eight out of 10, I gotta say, and that's, that's a lot saying for me in entire West stuff.
Go, go watch it.
But, the next thing I watched it, this is the question of one that I wasn't sure if I was gonna like it or not.
We discussed this film briefly on the gore commentary for, if you had listened to the last two of the Venom commentaries, we put one out for gore.
And the director of that movie, directed Children of the Corn.
He directed Tough Turf.
And he directed also this film, can talk about right now called Winners Take All, which is, it sounds, you know, really, and it is, I'll tell you right now, here we go.
The scene is a modern 1980s arena where present day gladiators compete in the wild sports extravaganza of Supercross.
Winner takes all, mixes the rivalry and the camaraderie of two young men with the thrill of spectacular driving and high stakes competition.
Going beyond the drama and excitement of the racing scene, a cast of hot talented newcomers of young love, no one can feel left out of the thrill of victory on the track and off.
That sounds like somebody really loved this movie a lot.
And just to give you a quick, quick, quick, quick, I had to look at this real fast.
I'm sorry guys.
No, okay, well this is something.
The guy that helped write this movie, Christopher W.
Knight, which is not Christopher, not the Brady Bunch, executive produced Hot Dog, The Movie, which is of sex comedy from the 80s.
But this star is Don Michael Paul of, that was very familiar to me.
He was, he did a lot of writing and stuff.
I'm sorry, he didn't star in a lot of stuff.
His names sounded very familiar, so I apologize for my talking right there.
Courtney Gaines shows up in this movie as our hero, Rick Mellon's friend.
He's the star of this picture.
And so is Peter Del Luiz.
You may know Courtney Gaines from working with Franz Kirsch.
In Children Of Court, of course, he was Malachi, if you guys didn't know that.
Kathleen York as Judy McCormick is his squeeze that goes for his buddy.
Robert Kranz as bad Billy Robinson.
There's some other folks, this also stars Tony Longo as Baron Nolan, which is a fun character because he's basically like this goon who was also in the motocross race, who has much more of a role in the finale of the big motocross race in Texas.
And somebody shows up in this film, Kathleen Kinmont, who was the bride of Reanimator.
And she was also in Halloween IV, The Return of Michael Myers.
She plays a spectator in this movie.
She's not in much of it, but I thought it was fun that I saw her on the credits.
So I would mention her because people know who she is.
This film, have you seen Rad, people?
Because it's kind of like Rad.
Basically Billy plays, I mean, Rick Mellon is this guy who lives in a small town where his best friend in Motocross, in a sense, Bad Billy went to go to the bigs.
He went to go on the circuit.
When he comes back to town for this race and they become, they get reacquainted and unfortunately Bad Billy gets reacquainted with his girl again, because that used to be Bad Billy's girl.
And of course Rick scooped in when he ducked out of town.
So Rick, Rick loses the race, but he decides to go race in Dallas at like this big, it's a Texas, it's really cool.
It's filled the Texas Stadium, this whole big motocross, you know, race scene and to try to win some pride back, I guess, from Bad Billy and his ex-girl, bringing his buddies along the way, Peter DeLuis and Courtney Gaines, who is Wally Briskin and Courtney Gaines with a character called Goose Trammell.
And these guys are fun too, they're like the buddies, they help them, you know, do maintenance on the bike and he has another girl that comes along for the ride, Cindy, who's like an ace mechanic, and of course in the end, they're gonna get together because it's that kind of movie.
They have the race, the race gets all messed up, so they have, of course, another race in the mountains to see who's got the biggest motocross dick there is, and it's got crazy motocross stunts in it, but the big problem, why I say watch Rad before you watch this movie is because Rad has the soundtrack, Rad has much better directed bike stunts because it's directed by Hal Needham, for Christ's sake, you know, ace stunt coordinator as it is, behind an directing chair, and this film is kind of corny and not in the sense of whatever.
It's just like, how do I say this?
It's like absorbently masculine in a lot of ways.
There's a line in this movie that Billy tells his teammates, because he's part of like a three man team, much like in Rad, where he says, you know why my name's printed on my ass?
So you know who to follow.
So it's like really, really masculine and probably a little bit homoerotic too.
I don't know.
It's there.
And all in all, you know, I wish there was a better copy of this movie out there, but you could find this on YouTube.
I don't think anywhere else, but like VHS.
But I had a decent time with this movie.
It was definitely a piece of the era of 1980s, you know, stunt biking and, you know, overall dude bro moments.
It's full of that.
And MVP of this film is just big dumb Tony Longo and his crazy action.
Just flipping over bikes and knocking people over.
And there's a guy in here who's a Bad Billy sponsor, who looks like a crossing Rick Flair in Uncle Baby Billy from The Righteous Gemstones.
And it's kind of fucking magical.
So look out for that guy too.
Like I said, it's on YouTube.
I'm going to put the link in the show notes of this episode so you guys could check it out if you would like to.
Gamma Cut The Crest is like a real family affair.
Some of the actors have the same last name as the crew.
And so I guess that's how they got into it, I guess.
But Winners Take All from the year of 1987, I was almost going to say the year of our Lord, directed by Fritz Kirsch.
You guys should go check it out if you guys like this sort of thing.
If you're not into this sort of thing, you know, crazy bike stunts and stuff and dude bro moments.
And if you like rad, you might like this movie, but this is a lesser rad in my opinion.
Go check out Winners Take All.
You got 90 minutes to lose on YouTube.
But here we are.
We're going to get to the meat and potatoes of this episode, which is two films in the first etching of Christopher Guest's career.
He only directed five films, but we had to get that six film in.
I think you guys know which one I'm talking about because it couldn't happen.
It wouldn't happen without it.
Right now, you will hear myself, you will hear Suzanne, you will hear Ricky Morgan and my brother, Jeffrey X Martin, doing This Is Spinal Tap, the OG, the one that started the mockumentary style of Christopher Guest.
Not talking about Christopher Guest, mind you, but right after, yeah, you will hear the review right now.
Through two decades, 17 classic albums, countless unforgettable concert triumphs, they changed the face of British rock music forever, and the best part is, they're back.
Now, they're on the verge of the greatest comeback of all time.
This is their moment.
Go right straight through this door here, down the hall.
Their time has come.
A little jog there, about 30 feet, jog to the left.
Heavy metal is deep, it gets stuff out of it.
My name is Marty DeBurg, I'm a filmmaker.
One man dares to probe the hidden secrets.
I was just pointing at it, I...
Well, don't point, even, don't even point.
No, it can't be played, never, I mean, why can't I look it up?
One man dares to hear the shocking answers...
It's tragic, really.
He exploded on stage.
To questions like, is the world really ready for Spinal Tap?
You put a greased naked woman on all fours with a dog collar around her neck and a leash and pushing a black glove in her face to sniff it.
You don't find that offensive?
You don't find that sexist?
Well, you should have seen the cover they wanted to do.
After years of vicious gusset.
I can't prove whose vomit it was.
Years of ugly rumours.
It's a passion day.
This is a fact.
And you are a spinal tarp?
Oh, what's going on here?
Now, the vicious, ugly truth can be told.
Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation.
Thank you.
From the place where eardrums go to die, come the living legends of rock and roll lunacy.
You know, it's like Hemingway said, remember them as they were and write them off.
Yes, we're back with our first review of the night.
And boy, howdy, is it quite a review.
And I'll start that with by saying who's on this review, besides myself, my big ass fucking mouth.
Suzanne's here, how you doing, girl?
Hey, how is everybody tonight?
Excellent, excellent, excellent.
Also with me, the guy you'll hear later on in the show.
And you may know him from Hail Ming, but you may also know him as the guy that sits between the drums, I mean, between the bass player and the guitar player of a band called Midlife Crisis.
If you know that band, you know.
Rick Morgan is here, how you doing, sir?
You know that band, you really need a life.
Do it.
Hey, I'm excited to be here.
Can't wait to talk about Mr.
No-Lives.
Do it.
You look happy behind those drums, is all I'm saying, man, you know.
Oh, man, it's yeah, it's better than most things in life.
And what is the guy said is gonna be, I was very disappointed if he didn't show up, but this is a review that I never intend to do with anybody else.
So he's here, I believe he's a bass player.
He might play it with random accoutrements, not a pick though, or his fingers.
Mr.
Jeffrey X Martin, how you doing, sir?
I'm doing well.
Look, I'd love to hang out and talk with you guys, but I need to go into the lobby and sit for the limousine.
Fucking Hesman.
Liam.
Ian, Ian, yes.
Fucking Hesman, you know, he's in this movie, you know.
God bless Johnny Fever and all of his glory.
But we're here to talk about a very special film that's not directed by one Christopher Guest, but you can't not include it in this Legion Reviews here.
This is Spinal Tap from 1984, what kicked off the Christopher Guest mockumentary train, if you will, directed by Meathead, Rob Reiner and his directorial debut.
The stars, oh man, the stars, some stars, don't have been, gonna do it right now.
Michael McKeon as David St.
Hubbins, Christopher Guest as Nigel Tufnell, Harry Shearer as Derek Smalls, Rob Reiner himself as Martin, Marty DeBurghy, Tony Hendra as Ian Faith, oh, there's so many, RJ Parnell, one of the drummers for Atomic Rooster, for a drummer for Atomic Rooster as Mick Shrimpton.
That sounds weird, Wikipedia, there we go.
Here are some other ones, June Chadwick as Yuriyoko in this group, Janine, Bruno Kirby shows up, Ed Bagley Jr.
shows up as John Stumpy Peppys, you should know that by now, come on now.
It's just, love that shit, man.
Our Mime Waiters, legendary Dana Carvey and One Billy Crystal, you know, because Mime is money, of course.
There's so many names to mention in this cast, Lesley, I'm sure we'll get to most of them, but it's very fun.
If you don't know the story of this, Spinal Tap is a real slash fictional band because they do play their own instruments and they do sing these songs within this movie and within everywhere else.
Are going back on a US tour after six years and they have this filmmaker following with them and they want to promote their album, Smell The Glove, you know, but they're supposedly washed up, but we still like them and whatever, man, they get all kinds of trouble, you know, as the rock bands do.
I'm told my friends who are musicians that parts of this is hard to watch because it's all true, getting lost backstage and stuff and you know.
Hello, Cleveland.
Yeah.
Yeah, but I'll kick it to my brother from Tennessee.
And that's hard to say, they're both in Tennessee.
Let's start with X.
X, what's up, man?
Tell us about it.
I think there's not a whole lot you can say about This Is Spinal Tap that hasn't been said literally hundreds of thousands of times before, but it's one of those rare movies that manages to be a perfect snapshot of the times in which it was created while still escaping those cultural bonds and wacky fashions and haircuts to become this timeless and beloved movie, an actual, and I hate the word, but it's a classic.
And that word is used far too much, but these characters are wonderfully drawn, even if the story, such as it is, revolves around this cliche of somebody getting ticked for their britches and wanting to get out of the band.
I think it's one of the best rock and roll movies ever made.
And I'm a guy who will watch Tommy like three times a week.
And Margaret, baby.
Dude, the baked beans in the long pillow.
It made me a man.
See, if you were someone pre show, you would have got that joke really good that it's nashy.
Oh, you know, but it come to think about it, this is an all Tennessee show, because that's where Suzanne's from, too.
Just throwing it out there.
But I lived I lived in Memphis and I lived in Knoxville.
Yes.
I spent 15 years in Tennessee.
But now let Suzanne go next.
Tell us about Sue.
Oh, my God.
It's funny mentioning the musician thing, since I'm surrounded by musicians.
And my husband was actually a touring musician for a while.
And everything in the movie, you can there are times I can see him cringe.
But this movie, there's a few things I'm going to say.
This is one of the most quotable movies and people will catch it when you say something, you know, it's like, like, hello, Cleveland, hello, Cleveland.
And my favorite is 11.
I swear I will find ways to throw.
Well, it just needs to go to 11, turn it up to 11.
Sometimes I get weird looks.
Most of the time I get somebody like keehawing and knee slapping when I say that.
But there's just certain things in this movie.
I'm just going to try to pinpoint a few little things that I find absolutely hysterical when Nigel is going back doing the the wonderful 80s deep knee bends with the guitar and then falls on his back and has to help getting himself up.
And I was watching my husband play bass one night, and I could tell his knee locked when he was trying to pull one of those poses.
I'm like, oh, shit, here we go again, Nigel.
And the thing is, you know, I mean, there's I go see a lot of bands and I see a specialist in the older guys.
They're kind of struggling physically, trying to do some of the stuff that they did when they were younger.
And they're no longer able.
But that's OK, Nigel did it first.
You're good.
And the whole David and those drawings that Janine did said, we're going in any direction with the bonds.
Well, you're a cancer.
And they're all just looking at this going, really?
Oh, I wish I was a cancer.
But this is just one of those movies that just, I watch it probably far more often than I should.
I could pop this movie in anywhere.
I can start reciting the movie from beginning to end without very much trouble.
And my favorite review is like, shark sandwich, shark sandwich.
Just a two word review, it just says.
That can't be real.
You can't play.
It was an accident.
I just, this movie is just absolutely, it doesn't sound goofy, but it's fucking charming.
It just is.
And there's just, it's just one of those movies that it's, I don't want to say classic, so I'm going to say timeless.
It always has something relevant if you've ever been a fan of music, not the shit that they call music.
No, but you know, real bands, real instruments, real writers.
I know I'm being kind of snobbish, but that's kind of how I feel.
But yeah, this movie is just timeless.
Cool.
Rick?
I have built my life around Spinal Tap.
I really have.
Just like Suzanne was saying, I can pretty much quote this movie from beginning to end.
You know, it's like, how much more black could it be?
You know, it's like, you know, pastel black.
Just everything about it, the impact that it had.
How about the level of just improv that's in this movie?
You can tell that they're just going off and just keeping the film rolling and just seeing what's worth keeping.
That really sets the stage for a lot of the shows that Eugene Livy and all these people come up later on.
Like you said, Christopher Guest kind of helming, you know, the lead and all that kind of stuff and creating that world.
And we have this movie to thank for that because that's really, in my opinion, where it started.
I've wore this movie out, I've wore the soundtrack out.
I've seen them live on the Breaks Like The Wind tour.
I have a Spinal Tap lunchbox.
Break Like The Wind's an underrated album by the way.
Yeah, it is, yeah.
Yeah, and an elephant never forgets, you know.
But yeah, just the songs, I mean, I was in a band and we opened up a show back, we did a one-time gig and we opened the show with Tonight I'm Gonna Rock You.
And there's nothing like standing in front of a bunch of people, you know, and singing, you're sweet, but you're just four feet and you still got your baby teeth.
So, you know, I just, I love everything about this movie and I love all the stories from professional musicians that say, you know, that really happened.
You know, Ozzy didn't think it was funny at all.
You know, and, you know, I hear stories of the drummer for Ronnie James Dio, when the show started, he was inside this pyramid, the pyramid's supposed to raise open and reveal the drum kit.
Well, just like Derek and his pod, it didn't open, so he spent like 45 minutes of the whole gig playing inside this pyramid and nobody ever saw him.
So you just got to love, come on, man, Stonehenge.
I mean, not only Stonehenge the song, but the whole setup of it, the drawing on the napkin, putting inches instead of feet, you know, the druids coming out dancing, the conversation afterwards where Derek goes, well, maybe we should just move it.
What do you mean?
So they shunt trot upon it.
I don't think the problem was...
Oh, man, it's just so great.
If I told him once, I told him a thousand times to put Spout-A-Tap first and then Puppet Show.
You know, when I was back in the early aughts, I used to play in an acoustic band, and when it came time to ask for tips, we would play Give Me Some Money.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, it didn't work, but we did it.
Oh, I sing Big Bottom all the time and Sex Farm.
Nice, nice.
It's just, you know, you gotta.
No, I always find myself humming Hellhole.
Oh, yeah.
You know, where you're standing in a hellhole.
Oh, man, this whole the whole mockumentary thing is such an interesting sub genre to me because we talked about this briefly at the beginning, but this is not a Christopher Guest movie.
This is a Rob Reiner flick, but this feels so much like the rest of Christopher Guest's filmography that it's easy to forget that he did direct it.
It gets more obfuscated by the fact that Guest was in Reiner's arguably most popular movie, The Princess Bride.
There's some creative synergy between the two, but hardly anybody thinks about what I think is the first mockumentary and that's Real Life by Albert Brooks.
Brooks' movie does this great flip around in the third act and becomes more about the filmmaker than the family that's supposed to be the subject of the film.
It's a great movie.
I'm going to go ahead and highly recommend that, but Guest may not have invented the mockumentary as some people believe, but I do think that he perfected and established the genre as a capital T thing.
Yeah, without a doubt.
We watch Waiting For Guffman a lot.
I'm going to go home and bite my pillow.
Yeah, so many great bits in this movie.
I mean, we've seen highlights of them all over.
You know, I love the 70s documentaries, stuff like that, you know, and it's well deserved, you know, in that because there's very funny stuff there and stuff that's really funny.
I think it's very organic.
We got in credit scenes in these different films now, but they have through credit scenes, which I take it are outtakes in this movie.
And one of the things that makes you laugh the hardest of some of the smallest things, like when David's talking about these these books on tape that he's getting in the mail, you know, this one from Dr.
J.
Yeah, that's Julius.
Oh, let's say they keep going then with the thing.
I find kind of funny because, you know, they have that those same two groupies and the Cole Sword travels from band member to band member.
The first probably five times they didn't realize it.
And all of a sudden it's like, oh, my God, that's funny as hell.
Such a fine line between clever and stupid.
Did you see Duke fame's album cover?
I mean, you know, he's like laying there tied down and they're like knocking all over him.
It's no worse than smell the glove.
What's wrong with being sexy?
Yeah, Fran Drescher is still looking.
She still looks great today.
But yeah, seeing a young Fran Drescher, you know, pre pre what most know her is now is, you know, the whiny Fran Drescher nanny character.
It just it's it's always nice to see that.
And Patrick McNeese shows up this movie for no reason.
Sir Dennis Eaton Hogg.
Tap into America.
So fucking random.
Paul Schaeffer.
Yeah.
Artie Thufkin, Palmer Records.
Kick this ass.
The point where we're where Nigel Leibs and they have to come up with some new shit.
So Derek decides to go back into jazz fusion again and they do it at the show.
On bass.
Dick Smolls.
He wrote this.
Just throw them on the fucking bus and they can't sit there in the audience just giving them a thumbs down.
That's one of the things I love about this movie is rock and roll movies are hard because they get cloying so fast.
One of the things that makes spinal tap endearing is that it incorporates all of those great rock and roll tropes without really beating you over the head with them.
Like for such a broad parody, spinal tap really shines when it is subtle.
Like fucking David St.
Hubbard's awful girlfriend comes in and basically breaks up the band all up, Yoko Ono, and there's all that satanic panic heavy metal imagery from the 80s, that giant horned skull that dominates the live stage presentation.
And like we talked about before, that, oh my god, that dopey mystical overtone in Stone Head is just fucking hilarious.
But it's also on the nose.
And there's little areas that are just ripe for comic abuse, but it's all handled in this deadpan way that makes it even funnier.
No one knows who they were, or what they were doing.
The little cheering of Stonehenge.
Stonehenge.
No, I would like to think that they didn't see that until the scene happened, because the general gas on their face, like they're way much larger than the small thing that comes down.
It's like, you're away, like, yeah, they seem genuinely amused by what was going on until it happened and the little people come out, it's fucking magical.
When we saw them live, they had a FedEx guy come out with an envelope and David St.
Hubbins opened it up and it was even smaller.
And I will say when the show opened, they started with Tonight I'm Gonna Rock You and they came down from the ceiling, but I suspended and David came down, he's, you know, their own wires and he lands on the ground, walks up the mic, starts singing.
And then Derek comes down and his feet are like three inches from the floor.
So he's just swinging and he's doing tiptoes to get some momentum so he can swing by the mic and sing backups.
He's coming down halfway and it just locks up and he's just stuck up there the whole time and of course they got a guy on the side of the stage that's working these levers and of course now just flipping him off and, you know, trying to get down and it's great.
So this is a panel show, so let me ask, who is your favorite member of Spinal Tap?
Derek.
I didn't understand anything, anybody, I just heard blah, blah, blah.
That's my favorite.
Yes.
Ricky, blah, blah is your favorite.
Tell us, Ricky, you know.
I have to go with Derek for some reason.
Just because he's kind of the silent character, but at the same time, I mean, the whole, you know, aluminum-full situation, the preserved moose, the smoking the pipe, the spandex with the...
It's definitely not a cucumber at that point, but whatever he's got down his pants during Big Bottom, it's just hilarious.
I mean, let's face it, he is modeled.
He's got to be modeled after the bass player from Triumph.
Yes.
It looks just like Mike Luzin.
It looks just like him.
And just his, he's trying to be the cool one in the band as far as, you know, just like, well, maybe we should just move it away.
So they shot Trot upon it.
He's trying to be the reasonable one in this real awkward rock and roll situation.
And it's just that personality thing because the other two act like you expect rock guys to act.
He really doesn't.
So we're not doing Stonehenge?
No, we're not fucking doing Stonehenge.
It brings up a very interesting question at this point.
See, I'm with Rick.
I'm with Rick.
I'm a Derek Smalls guy.
I think Harry Shearer is just hilarious there and he tries so hard to keep the peace between Tuffnell and St.
Hubbins.
But he's still trying to keep his more artistic aspirations in play.
I mean, he smokes that posh pipe.
He's got that luxurious mustache that Triple H later had.
And then he's got, he tries to introduce progressive jazz music into the band's repertoire.
And that is never, never a good idea because that's usually the death knell for a rock band.
That's kind of like when a horror franchise decides the next chapter of the saga should take place in outer space.
But I have to say that scene where Nigel Tuffnell does the solo and he plays the guitar with an actual violin, that is one of the funniest rock and roll movie bits I've ever seen.
The fact that he stops and tunes the violin.
I'm missing one of my favorite points when Nigel has left and they're talking, well, we could do that.
We were doing a rock musical based on Jack the Ripper.
Saucy Jack.
No, I like Nigel and honestly, just a few little things, he gets all D, he's playing D minor, the status of all chords.
And it's called Lick My Love Pump.
Great.
You know, I'm heavily influenced by Mozart and Bach, this is kind of a Mark piece, you know.
And me, I also will obsess on some of the most ridiculous things.
And the little bread, the way he's folded it like that, it doesn't fold that way.
And then you got this, I mean, would you be holding this?
And look in here, who's in this one?
Little guys in here.
Who's in this one?
No one.
I'm a professional, I'll rise above.
Definitely all got their parts, man.
I mean, but again, they're playing bass in that pod when it's closed up and the guy's banging on it with a hammer and he just burn it up, man, playing this really cool bass solo in the middle of that song.
You got to give him credit, man.
Probably David, because he's just so oblivious to everything.
It's quite spectacular.
I love them all, but that's probably the one that I would choose out of all these people.
I think it's very important to say that these guys are legit musicians and the music in the film has has transcended generations because you can go play a rock band.
I forget which one it is.
And there's two tap songs on rock band.
I think it's Rock Band 3.
I think it is.
We've owned it and I've played it poorly because I'm shit at that game.
Tonight I'm going to rock you with for sure is on rock band.
So people, you know, younger people are playing these songs, probably not knowing what the fuck they are.
But you know what?
They're hitting it and I'm glad it's out there.
Let's put it that way.
Ying was searching for his gang.
The goddamn the drummer thing.
I brought this up where I sort of announced Ricky was going to be on this review.
I was like, yeah, he'll make it if he survives his last gig.
Well, the gag in this film is that every every Spinal Tap drummer has had a horrible accident.
So gardening accident.
You can't really just for vomit spontaneous combustion lilies as they say, just a flash of green light, a glob, a globule on the stage.
It's more like a state, really, you know, the time to say that the guy who plays spinal taps, final drummer, Joe Mama Besser, it's a guy named Fred Asparagus, and he's the same guy who played the bartender in Three Amigos.
Nice.
And he was also in Tearing The Owls.
He's the guy sitting there in the theater and he goes, Hey, how did they do that?
Exactly.
That's the guy.
Yeah.
And that's something probably no one cares about, but me.
So, okay, no, I care about that greatly because you know why?
That's why I care about that, you know.
It's like a beer.
I was watching the credits because you got to watch the credits.
I noticed that that Joyce Heiser, who you may not know her name, but it's the first fair tits I've ever seen in a film.
Thank you, just one of the guys.
It shows up in this movie as one of the groupies.
And that's something for me to ponder on and to look for, you know.
She's fairly recognizable, though.
Again, it's the same first pair of tits I've ever seen, Suzanne.
I got to look for it now.
It's very important stuff as a young man.
Yeah, I mean, you never forget your first nipples.
You could barely see them nipples.
These guys are really looking, too.
Come on, you know.
Oh, God.
Have you guys seen the lost footage, I guess, that they put back in for some of the DVDs and stuff where when Nigel leaves, they then she, you know, David's girlfriend brings in an ex-boyfriend to be the next guitar player and singer, and it's Paul Shortino, who's really a really good singer.
Have you seen any of that stuff?
No.
It's on the Studio Canal version that I've got.
Oh, shit.
It's got quite a bit of extra stuff that was cut out, but they bring this other guy in and he's a hotshot and he kind of starts stealing the show and the crowd loves him and they end up firing him because he's too good, you know.
Yeah.
I mean, it's really hard to review comedy like this, but, you know, there's so many bits that I've seen.
You know, me and Suzanne frequently mention quite a bit and there's that table that nobody's at.
And when they have their record store appearance and they had that look of boredom on their face and disappointment, I've seen that many, many times and I've gone to that table before just to talk to this person and, you know.
But even sometimes when you go up and talk to them and you're genuinely DB Sweeney, I'm talking to you, really excited to meet them and they still have this bored demeanor of like, oh yeah, fucker.
Yeah.
Damn.
She had this experience with David Doughton too.
I didn't have that experience with David Doughton.
He once again, there was no line, no weight, nobody.
And he barely would speak three words to me.
You know, you get that size and of course, you know, they should be the same, but come on, man.
At a lot of these conventions, you get some wackos that come up and drive them insane.
It's kind of like Savini.
Savini, you hear horror stories of, well, you don't know who you're going to get.
I've been around him when he was super nice.
I've been around him when he was anything but nice.
But at the same time, you got all these, you know, lunatics that are super fans like my buddy David, and they will absolutely drive you up a wall.
So, you know, I can get it, you know.
I mean, but I only had a couple of those.
In most of the experiences I've had, everybody is really, really, you know, nice, happy to talk about movies.
We'll share a couple of stories with you.
Right.
And, you know, I super lucked out one of my childhood posters on my wall, Dirk Benedict, was an absolute fucking doll.
John Cusack.
No.
We don't talk about Cusack.
The nicest we met.
Be civil to the people spending that kind of money.
You need to take your bitch home.
Hey, we were talking about Cusack.
Yeah, we should.
Speaking of which, Danny and I just went to the horror event that they had there in Nashville and Billy Zane was there and he was charging like 80 bucks for an autograph.
Wow, he was 40 bucks here.
I know.
And I was like, you know, we love you.
We love you, Billy, but not that much.
You better be judging a dance-off for 80 bucks.
He is a charismatic motherfucker though, aside from that.
He is, man.
I mean, he's cool as crap standing over there, man.
You can get drawn in, but 80 bucks, man, that's hard to part with.
Yep, it is.
And I think I told Gary, two feet away from John Hughes, I'm like, wow, I could have said 80 bucks on fire and had more fun with it.
That's right.
Now, Danny got to meet, oh man, Diane from Better Off Dead.
Diane Franklin, yes.
Franklin.
I've never seen Danny get starstruck before.
She's a lovely woman.
Very lovely.
She was starstruck.
She even let him wear the jacket she wore in Better Off Dead.
She brings it with her.
Yeah, you mentioned, you know, releases, you mentioned that, that, that, what do you call it?
There we go.
Studio Canal release.
Apparently, they got fucked out of money on that deal.
They got $179 in sales from Merchandising Music over the prior three decades.
Harry Shearer sued for $125 million because, you know, much like this and much like A Mighty Wind, you know, words of music by these guys and they deserve better than that.
You know?
Wow.
Yeah, I don't know a whole lot more we could say about this one without giving away the whole goddamn thing if you haven't seen it before.
But if you haven't seen Spinal Tap, for fuck's sake, come on.
Yeah.
If you haven't seen this Spinal Tap, it's made a lot of lists.
It's made a lot of documentaries and it's all fucking well deserved in so many ways because every time I watch it, like I watch this and I watch Best in Show today for a review upcoming in the week and I said, do I need to watch it again?
But I'll watch them again for the 25th fucking time because I want to, you know.
You guys seen Heavy Metal Memories, the greatest hits Spinal Tap album commercial?
Blackie Lawless is in it.
Back when he was nobody because it was made back when they made the movie and it's like a greatest hits album.
It's called Heavy Metal Memories and it's got pretty much every song from the soundtrack on there.
But they make it look like one of those K-Tale commercials where people are walking in the sand in the beach, but they're playing Sex Farm.
Listen, what the flower people say, people say, yeah.
Yeah, I need a dick.
That's probably on YouTube.
You can find that.
Fucking C-Tar Solo and that freaking song just tripping out, the screens spinning.
I can't say it.
There's so many things.
Yes.
What about Derrick Smiles going, wait a minute.
Yes, that's part of the whole thing, yes.
Here's the thing.
You can tell that Spinal Tap is a classic by the way that it got incorporated into other pieces of entertainment like SNL skits, commercials, just little bits here and there, but I have to say that my favorite Spinal Tap thing is based on a relatively short bit in the movie where Spinal Tap is playing Cleveland and they get lost in the hall and they can't find their way to the stage and they keep running into the same guy who's like working on pipes or something back there, but they can't find their way to the actual stage.
1998, the WCW Fall Brawl, Chris Jericho did a spot where he got lost on the way to the ring before a match with Bill Goldberg and he's walking around backstage yelling, rock and roll and hello Winston Salem and at one point he opens a set of crash doors that leads outside and he knows he's just fucked everything up and it's just, it is hilarious.
It's one of the most clever pieces of business I've seen in a wrestling show, probably one of the funniest things Jericho ever did and he's an entertaining guy to begin with, but that's how you know that your movie has made it when other people will take it and incorporate it into their own spots.
How about Metallica doing the black album?
I mean, come on.
Precisely.
They literally just did Spinal Tap and they just made the album a black cover.
There's like a tiny little snake in the corridor of it and that was it.
But I mean, they even said, yeah, it's, you know, Spinal Tap.
I mean, without Spinal Tap, there will be no death clock and I think it'd be a lesser world for it.
You know, and if you don't, death clock is they there the subject of, huh?
Meet up at the Electric Banana Club.
It may not be there, but I'm sure we'll find it.
If you don't know who Death Clock is, they are the subject of a cartoon show called Metal Aucalypse, which is basically the death metal version of Spinal Tap.
Release the Kitties.
Man, that's so good.
There's also a music video for Hail Hole.
I don't know if you have seen that or not either.
So they're in the swimming pool.
I actually requested it so much.
Hail Hole is on the touch tunes at work.
I usually go for Christmas With The Devil.
I use it, you know, after Thanksgiving.
How many times have you heard Pat play Christmas With The Devil, Gary?
Zero.
Really?
You've been around our house around Christmas time.
No, the second day after Thanksgiving, I pull out Christmas In Hollis.
He pulls out Christmas With The Devil.
Yeah.
Two awesome ones.
It's on our holiday playlist for sure.
Man, oh man.
We're going to really hit the the wrap up button here and I'm going to kick it back to Ricky again.
Can I say one more thing?
You can.
I will get.
I will.
Okay, X first then, because he's fucking being fucking demanding with my ass right now.
Come on, go for it.
I'm a shitfuck.
And just one more thing real quick.
Spinal type in the very beginning of the movie is described as one of England's loudest bands.
But at that time, the actual loudest band in the world was The Who that cranked out 126 decibels at a 1976 show in London, which is stupid loud and no wonder Pete Soundin is deaf.
So go ahead and do your thing now.
I'll be quiet.
Such a bitch.
Listen to him, man.
You know, that was great.
Now, Ricky, it's your turn.
What else did you say about the film?
And what do you give it?
One, two, eleven Well, first of all, to go with what X just said, they were actually handing out little packets of earplugs at the concert that said, Spinal Tap World's Loudest Band.
Wear for your own protection.
But yeah, again, I've already said it.
My life is built around Spinal Tap.
I have many great friends that are great friends because we love Spinal Tap so much.
And that's all you got to do to be a friend of mine.
That's pretty much it.
So there's there's not enough things I can say about it.
I just absolutely love it.
And of course, it's going to 11.
And you can't play because if you wife or whatever, whatever the fuck she is, Suzanne, I keep trying to think of more to say.
And there's plenty.
But yeah, this is this film is pretty much perfection.
The just the banter, the interactions, everything that Reiner did.
Like I said, we'll all meet up at the Electric Banana one day.
I love this movie.
It is straight up.
It's one better.
It's 11.
Cool.
Jeffrey X Martin.
It's been too much fucking perspective there, Suzanne.
I think within the context of this series of shows, this is Spinal Tap is interesting because this is where you kind of see the genesis of Christopher Guest's directorial career.
The style of the mockumentaries that he would make later are really influenced by Reiner's style, if not a full-fledged aping of it.
And this is where Guest put together his core performers.
Michael McKean's here.
Fred Willard shows up.
Harry Shearer is here and he's in A Mighty Wind.
So, it's not technically a Christopher Guest movie, but it might be the most important movie in his entire career.
And with that, I will agree with everyone else and say that Spinal Tap is an 11 out of 10.
I'm not proud of that.
I'm not proud that I'm saying that, but it's definitely a 11.
One better.
Yes.
Yeah, my frenetic look.
Do you think you'd like to work a job like him?
I don't know what the hours.
No, sir, we don't have that.
You like black.
You know, I think I could do that.
I also would like to work at a habit asher as well.
But that's a probably work with children.
Oh, what can I say?
The music is amazing.
Like I said, you know, without this is spinal tap.
I don't think Christopher Guest work would be as prolific as it is.
And as a director, this is some deep roots here and it's very important.
If you've seen the other ones, you haven't seen this.
You need to rectify that in a major fucking way.
Multiple editions to buy digitally and physically.
Go get both, man.
I recommend it, you know.
That's what I love about my digital collection.
If I'm on the road and I'm going to watch Big Trouble, Little China, I can click a button and say I can watch it right now.
You know, same thing with Spinal Tap.
Funny as hell, you know, hurtful as hell, the certain people I know that are musicians.
And it's just, it's wonderful.
And it gets the 11 every time.
So we're not biased at all, people.
We just love it that much.
And it deserves your love, too.
Man, oh man.
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And who knows, we might do more of these.
This is the first edition of the Cripple Theater.
I am Gary, and I'm here with Ricky Morgan.
How are you doing, sir?
What's up, what's up, man?
What a great movie to cover, man.
This is gonna be a blast to talk about, because there's so many elements in this that is so wrong, but it's so awesome.
Yeah, the reason we're doing Crippled Theater is because I always thought it was fascinating.
When somebody does extraordinary things that have an ailment, it's not like being in a PFE.
You're really woke out there.
You're offended by the term crippled theater.
I'm not sorry, okay?
It is what it is, you know?
But the first film we're doing in this series of reviews is Master Of The Flying Guillotine from 1976.
This is written, directed and starring the late Jimmy Wang Yu, who, this is actually a sequel, I mean, a sequel to a film called The One-Arm Boxer and I didn't realize that right away because I haven't seen it, because this is a film that if you're a kung fu enthusiast and you're a budding kung fu enthusiast to be, people, this is what people talk about that you should see.
No doubt, man, it's everything that a exploitation B-movie, martial arts film wants to be.
This movie's got it all in it, man.
Yeah, there's some stuff like Five Deadly Venoms and there's so many, but this is a top of their list that not novice martial arts fans should watch and for good reason too, because it's amongst the silliness which if you did it, the plot of this movie is there's an old man who had students or lieutenants that were killed by the one-armed boxer in the very first movie because they were evil, opium dealers, I think it was or something, that yeah, he lost his arm and he had to get revenge in his first movie, which I have to watch now because I had never seen it before.
So it'd be nice to watch the first part to this movie.
So he's pondering, thinking about the one-armed boxer and what he can do to go find him.
And there's a tournament going on, so he's gonna go to the tournament and kill any one-armed boxer that he sees.
In the nutshell, when this comes down to it, you've got a blind guy that's hiding out in the middle of nowhere, getting messaged by carrier pigeons that his other people have died.
If you're getting this message from this pigeon, somehow we released this pigeon before we died.
But this just means we died.
So I'm trying to figure that part out.
But I'm sending you a pigeon because we've already died.
How that happens, who knows?
But yeah, dude just decides that a blind dude with a flying guillotine is gonna go around and try to kill every one-armed person in China, I guess, because that way he makes sure he gets the right one.
It's kind of like the Hanson brothers in Slap Shot.
And when he gets hit in the head with the keys, is this the guy?
Yeah, and he punches him.
No, that's not him, it's the other guy.
Yeah.
So you got a blind dude around cutting heads off of one-armed people.
I mean, that's this movie.
It was insane about it is, the carrier picture thing first of all is it's gotta be like the most indirect Dear John letter ever.
By the way, this is from your sentence, we're dead if you read this.
This guy did it.
Okay, let me go find him.
And the cool thing, why it's called Master Of The Flying Guillotine is that his weapon is like this basket thing on a chain with retractable blades all around it to where it lands on somebody's head perfectly.
He can yank said chain and pull the guy's head clean off.
Not to mention, this is a blind guy doing it.
The blind guy doing it, yes.
I don't think a guy that could see could do this, but anyways, maybe that's the point.
So he's doing it all by his other senses and it has to be, it looks very light first of all for whatever it is, but also very bloodless.
So in this thing, you know, with his dandelion flying guillotine machine, he could cauterize wounds apparently.
And even, yeah, even if it's not the best of throws, it's got a net that drops down to completely cover your head and finish the job.
So they thought in a mistake-proof function of the guillotine.
Only thing that make it better would be to drop bees like Nicholas Cage in the Wicker Man X.
Right.
They're confused by the bees.
I love the opening of the movie because you've got the old blind dude out here.
He's got a full head of hair.
I mean, it's a big, massive wig he's wearing and eyebrows that are just unmatched.
There's nobody that has eyebrows like this guy.
And he's just out punching the air, you know, like you do when you're some kind of martial arts master.
He gets the message and then dude just goes a bat shit crazy and sets his house on fire and goes on a vendetta.
We have to mention the wooden dummies that he has for just such occasion of revenge.
Because he has to practice his craft of this fly chained weapon.
So he has wooden dummies built in his backyard to aim and shoot.
Now this is a problem for later on in the movie where our one on Boxer is trying to outsmart the blind man.
But these things aren't moving, but maybe in the wind a little bit, who knows.
But he's chucking this thing and he's pulling these heads off these wooden dummies like, yep, I knew this day would come.
So I had this carved out of the cheapest wood possible.
But yeah, man, when he gets ready to go, he just jumps up through his house, busts through the roof, sets the house on fire.
And then this, let's talk about this theme song, man.
The main theme of this movie is like a punk band and it's killer.
All the music in this film is unauthorized by the way to use.
I think that's why it didn't have like a major release for a long time.
Yeah, I mean, it's definitely some sort of punk band, you know, cause you're talking mid to, you know, going into the late 70s.
So that was the movement.
You got that music going on and the theme that every time that the blind master of the guillotine is walking around, it sounds like music that Rob Zombie would use in one of his movies.
So it's like, wow, this is kind of ahead of its time.
Yes, wild man.
You know, well, our one boxer has a school and he has an institute to go to the tournament today, they make a big deal like this tournament is happening, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And he he's like, oh, he mentioned something about not want to be exposed by the government.
So he might be like in some kind of protection program or something.
I don't know how Chinese schools work.
That's right.
It's weird.
But but they do they do go to have his students, you know, learn how to breathe and how to walk on air, apparently, because, you know, that the art of jumping is very hard to them.
And he just comes over.
He's like, wow, that guy jumps very well.
You know, yeah, of course, their idea of jumping is totally different than ours, because we're thinking, hey, I can I can clear these 15 blocks.
No, he's like, no, take that wicker basket and set it up right and walk around the edge of it with nothing in it.
And then he pulls a line of Richie on him and starts walking on the ceiling.
And then he just climbs down and goes, that's all I'm teaching you for today.
It's like you didn't teach us anything.
You were just showing out.
Looking like turbo and breaking two.
Just, you know, exactly.
But yeah, I mean, I thought it was so funny because he acts like he's teaching him this lesson, but he doesn't teach him.
It's kind of like at work when they say this has to be done, but they're not going to teach you how to do it.
You got to figure it out on your own.
So yeah, he walks on the ceiling, does a little, you know, a little shim sham there and that's it.
He's done.
Class dismissed.
He went to the Terry Silver School of karate.
You know, he shows them, hey, look what I can do.
I'm not going to tell you how I did it though.
Yeah, it's nuts.
Well, they get the tournament and I like this, that there's really no rules at this tournament.
You could have a weapon.
You don't have to have a weapon.
Your hands could be your weapon is one of the I'm sorry.
No, that's that.
I'm just agreeing with you.
It's the craziest setup for an event.
It's basically well, let's face it, you know, everybody's riding the wave of Enter The Dragon at this point, right?
So you had to throw this tournament in there because that's the hot topic of the time because you just had an iconic movie that that's what the whole thing was about.
So you kind of have to say when you look at this, it's a milder case of it.
But this is Mortal Kombat, man.
I mean, you got guys with big stretchy arms.
You got the Indian fighters.
Oh, he comes out of nowhere doing some doll scene shit.
You know, people, people with hidden blades and monkey fighters.
And I mean, you got it all right here.
And like you said, after that first fight, you're like, wait a minute.
Did nobody say there's any rules to this thing because it's like, no, we're just fighting to the death.
I mean, from the get go.
So, wow.
You get it all.
You like, you know, staff fighting.
You get Eagle Claw versus monkey, monkey, monkey paw.
You get all that stuff and you get straight up.
Again, there's an Indian fighter in this film who's probably aging as hell or whatever.
But he could stretch his arms like Del Seam in Street Fighter.
And nobody explains what this is.
There's probably some kind of mystical stuff that I'm missing here.
But it's unexplained why this man could stretch his arms and, you know, cube hard punches and shit like that.
But we're talking Freddie Cougar level arms too, man.
I mean, those things go out of the mouth.
Fucking people up with those arms.
Yeah.
You got the tournament director's daughter, Wu Xiaotai, who's American name apparently is Doris Lung.
She has other names that are listed IMDB.
She's been in a whole bunch of stuff.
A couple of these guys have been in a whole bunch of stuff.
And she wants to be in the tournament.
She wants to, you know, do her thing and prove herself with her eagle claw.
And she does.
And she becomes the love interest of our lead.
The damn one-armed boxer who's pretty cocky through all this.
I love his style.
They're saying, yes, I'll go to your tournament where I could possibly be fucking murdered by somebody because he knew there was consequences to his killing those two lieutenants.
He has to be totally under fire for possibly at any time.
It's like, yes, I will expose myself as this one-armed person.
Yeah, just waiting.
Even when the tournament is over because people freaking die because our Master Of The Flying Guillotine shows up with his razor basket taking people's heads off and stuff and say, well, I guess the tournament's over.
This guy's going to kill me with one arm.
I'm like, yeah, let's just stop it and ruin everything.
I love the fight where the two guys are fighting and they both die.
And so the guy just says they both win.
How did that work?
Yeah, I love the fact of, you know, you're out there, you're fighting to the death and they point out the loser and they say, remove the loser of the match.
These people just come out and just drag them off.
Then you got somebody out there sweeping the footprints.
This is a dirt stadium.
It's a dirt floor.
I'm like, what good does that do?
I mean, why are we dusting the dirt?
It's like they're fixing the infield, like at the baseball games.
Right.
Yeah, they take it that professional, you know.
The tournament is just great.
It's great.
It's wild.
It's about half of it.
It's about a quarter of the movie, I'd say.
You totally forget about the guillotine guy because he's not even in it for a long time.
This tournament goes on for quite a bit, which is totally entertaining.
Well, he's got to travel.
He takes a long time to travel.
I'd love to see those bushy eyebrows get in the way, which they are fricking insane.
There's another guy in the movie that has a mustache that looks like the eyebrows.
It's always like he got the mustache of the old weightlifters back, the bodybuilder guys they would have on the side shows at carnivals and stuff.
It's that kind of mustache.
It's big and bushy and stands way up.
It's like, come on, man, who made this decision?
It's wild, man.
Then you get to the second half of this movie, which I think is just as exciting as the first half of this movie because our man, UT and Lung, the one-armed boxer, he goes back to his village basically to wait for the fucker to come get him.
So in this time, all these fighters come to go try to take him out or give him a warning, including our stretchy armed Indian gentleman, which that's an awesome fight.
It's a great fight.
I guess like his first lieutenant, our blind man.
I was going to say we forgot dancing dude.
And I mean, it's not like a quick.
I mean, this dude breaks it down for 45, 50 seconds, you know, just just a full on dance.
I mean, our one on boxer again, the baldiest fuck of this movie, because he said he sets the house on fire.
They have they have a whole three amigos moment in this movie where he gets all the villagers to be on his side, you know, spears at all, you know, instead of dressing up and faking them out.
Y'all just stand outside the windows with these spears and keep him from jumping out.
So little old in one, so little old in one, you know.
Yeah, I mean, what an idea, though, setting, you know, putting the fire under the house and having a metal floor, I guess because he knew dude would be barefooted.
But this is bad for you too, though, because your feet are going to be burnt up too, and you could possibly get burnt up inside your own house.
It's my favorite thing about this movie.
He doesn't give a shit.
He's like, I'm that bold, you know, come on.
But yeah, that's that's a cool fight, man.
Not cool.
That's a hot fight.
And as soon as it's over, he runs outside and dumps his feet into the water.
You know, the one arm boxman, boxer sticks his feet in the water.
He's like, oh, that feels good.
Master, did you know?
Just hot.
You get to the final fight.
He has like a whole like predator mode set up for him when he comes.
He he puts all this bamboo in the ground just to say, OK, I'm going to stand in the bamboo.
So when he throws his basket, he's going to be picking apart the bamboo and not my face.
You know, not thinking that there's big gaps in this bamboo.
And, you know, eventually it's going to chop down and I better watch my head.
Right.
Yeah.
And that doesn't work out as well for him as he thought, because it does kind of nick him there a little bit.
But he's got like three or four stages.
It's almost like Game of Death where you go to these different levels because he just leads the blind man to other areas, making it more difficult for him to be able to pick him out.
And I'll tell you what, this goes on for what, 20 minutes of the movie, them two facing off.
It does.
It's a long time.
It's well thought out, though.
It's very well thought out.
How would you fool a blind man that could use his other senses like crazy?
How would you impair that?
You put, you know, you make random boxes of birds and you open them up to confuse him.
And you're just killing those poor birds, but whatever.
No birds were harmed in the making of this film.
At least I think so.
I don't know.
But he goes in there and buys that coffin shop, you know, and you're like, why is he buying this place or wanting to use it?
You know, so because you get to see it later on.
But the fact of the big slats of wood that he could, you know, throw sound and make him react to them and not know where he is.
And also the tricks of the wood falling and it launching hatchets at the blind guy in the process.
It's pretty cool.
Don't know how he did it, but pretty cool.
It's all so crazy set up and, you know, it could have went totally wrong for him and it should have.
But the fact that he set this series of traps for him.
And I think it's a pretty cool 20 minutes of cinema to go along with the rest of this movie.
And just just watching them play.
I know, Jamie Wang, you wasn't a real one arm man, but watching what he can do, you know, with just that one arm was pretty impressive.
And just the cockiness of the character, which I think is the MVP of this movie.
Absolutely.
You believe it like the whole time because he's not.
He's a good man, but he's a very violent man because he has to be.
And it's more like one of those Godfather moments.
Like, yeah, I've come to this village and started this school, but I did just murder these two people that are pretty important to this guy.
So, you know, just when I'm out of violence, they suck me back in.
Right.
Yeah.
That's that's kind of the beauty of this, too, because you're rooting for a guy that's really kind of a bad guy.
You know, so that that's you know, it's weird how it turns and you're against, you know, Mr.
Guillotine.
And but really, I mean, they're both not better than each other.
So you just he's you know, the one arm boxer's got more relationships with other people there and he's got a school and all that stuff.
So you kind of feel drawn to be on his side.
But come on, they're both bad dudes.
Yep.
Yeah, there's other fights we didn't mention in the movie.
Like in the tournament, there's a pretty neat one where they're they have to balance themselves on top of sticks with swords on the bottom.
So literally fight.
You could fall to your death on top of these swords.
But you got a dude that's fighting in there that can stand on the tips of swords.
So barefooted.
It's crazy.
It's crazy, man.
It's unbelievable, but it's crazy.
This film is a classic for so many reasons.
I'm not even sure if Blu-ray exists in this movie because of the music rights.
I know One-Arm Boxer has Arrow Blu-ray that you can buy.
Probably a special edition knowing those guys.
I'm going to look this up real fast.
Do some more talking, Ricky, if you can think of some more stuff to talk about, sir.
Well, I actually watched this on Tubi, and the copy they had on there was pretty dang decent.
So I don't know if there is an existing one out there.
There's probably one overseas or something you might get a hold of, but I don't know.
That transfer they had on there was pretty good.
You just kind of get thrown, like you said, by the title of the movie, and you start off with this guy and his vendetta, and then you get to the tournament, and it just kind of overshadows everything else going on, but it doesn't disappoint.
I mean, there's so much, and I'm sure we're leaving out a lot of stuff, Gary, but there's a ton of fights, and it's my only real complaint, and this is just the times, but there's really only about, I'm going to say seven, and that's probably a high number.
There's only about seven sound effects in this whole movie.
It doesn't matter if you're a blind man on a hillside and you're punching the air, or if you're kicking somebody in the face, or if you're punching them in the face or punching them in the ribs, it's all the same sound.
It never changes.
So that's one thing I did notice, and there's a sound of things dropping to the ground, and sound of some metal clanging, but other than that, the sound effects in this movie, that's pretty much it.
It's one punch sound that they use for everything.
That's kind of fun.
I'm seeing a DVD copy of it on Amazon for $14.32.
Not like a Dragon Dynasty or something like that, but they call it the ultimate edition, so you can get it on there, but it doesn't really have a super special edition available.
It deserves to, but I think it might be the soundtrack issue, because they basically used all the music of this film from other films.
They stole it basically, so there's a lot of rights issues there, I'm sure, in the way of them putting out a really nice clean edition of this.
Yeah, it's a shame that all those things get held up like that, but hey, it's price you pay, but at least you can still see it.
Yep, and I did watch it on Tubi as well.
Only real fault of the print on there, and I'm not even sure how the other prints look either, is that it fades in and out a little bit, from light to dark a little bit, and there's parts of it that are in Chinese.
Yeah, I noticed that too.
It's like, yeah, they're pulled an Argento on us, like the deep red when they go back and put the footage back in that's in the original language.
Yeah, you're trucking along, you're listening to the story, and he says, let me tell you about this guy.
Then it's like, okay, I can understand anything they're saying now.
Then it goes back to, well, hey, Fred, how do you know that's true?
I mean, it's like, whoa, wait a minute.
So somebody found the original full in the full movie and released it with the extra scenes back in in the original language.
They do give you more than enough for you to follow the story, though.
So you're fine on that end.
So you're bashful about to be like, they have different languages in there.
You could follow the film just fine by watching it the way it is.
That may make this qualify as that DVD, you said, maybe the ultimate edition or whatever you called it, because that's usually when they go back and throw everything they can find back into it.
So it could be the same edition on that DVD then.
I got hope for arrow, though, because they did put Versus on Blu-ray.
And oh, boy, Versus is a movie you can watch people.
Fantastic.
But yeah.
That's a Danny Bennett favorite.
I fell in love with it real fast, man.
Yeah, it's a great one.
Great movie.
It's a classic for a reason.
If you haven't watched it, seek it out.
Like I said, first movie in the series, One-armed Boxer, is definitely on Arrow Blu-ray.
You can buy that from them.
I think they have a sale going out right now and everything is recording this.
But yeah, go check this movie out.
The other works are Jimmy Wang You because he's no longer with us.
He's not coming to breakfast, as they say.
Good times, man.
Yeah, this movie, like I said, it does not disappoint.
You're not going to be bored for one minute in this thing.
It just hits and keeps hitting.
Like I said, if you're a martial arts fan on any level, this has got to be a staple in your diet.
Yeah, for sure.
It was an introduction for me.
I watched very, very few of these overseas martial arts films.
I mean, Ricky, there's a small age gap between us, but it is an age gap nonetheless to where you had access to Kung Fu theater on Saturday.
Yes, sir, man.
That's where it started with me.
I mean, of course, I grew up with the Bruce Lee stuff and all that, but yeah, Kung Fu theater, man, that did it.
They play stuff like this on there like all the time and just all the Shaw Brothers stuff and stuff like this and just really wild things and stuff and the culture that we may not understand, but we're all in for it though.
So I will say that, of course, I've been out of the loop for a little bit and during my downtime with the surgery I had to have, I watched a ton of Shaw Brothers movies.
I mean, that was kind of my comfort.
My chicken noodle soup for getting over everything was just watching a bunch of martial arts stuff.
Nice.
So you're all in on this review then.
That's awesome.
Oh yeah, yeah.
Absolutely.
This has been the one for this particular Beef anniversary episode.
The next Beef anniversary episode and Crippled Theater you should hear is Ricky and I discussing Mr.
No Legs, which you may know from that movie.
It's about a guy who gets fucked over by the mob and he turns his wheelchair because he's an amputee.
He's an amputee instead of missing the legs into a killing machine.
So we're looking forward to watching that movie again.
That's going to be awesome.
That's it for this one.
Thank you, Rick, sir.
Yes, sir.
Anytime, man.
Love it.
We'll be back with something else.
The City Council of Blaine gave me the responsibility of putting together a show to celebrate the 150th anniversary of Blaine.
I took the whole history of the town and I squeezed it like a piece of fresh bread.
I think the one really important thing that I learned in working with Corky is that I do indeed have talent.
Thanks for watching!
My zeta took one look at it and said, I can't eat that.
I have found here in Blaine a gold mine of talent.
Think Johnny would be so perfect, don't you?
He could be the next Keanu Reeves.
We've got Ron and Sheila on board again.
Newcomer Alan Pearl.
I have a very lazy eye, which these prescription glasses help.
Libby.
I've been working here at the DQ for about...
And of course, Lloyd and I, it's like rams butting heads.
Certainly Corky has brought something to our little theatrical community.
He's definitely different.
You know, he can just do everything there is to do, and there's only one other person in the world that can do that, and that's Barbra Streisand.
I have a little announcement to make.
Mort Guffman is going to come from New York City and see our show.
We have one shot at this.
We've got one performance with Mort Guffman coming to town.
As you heard from the trailer, the next feature in this Beefiversary Christopher Guest thing, celebration or whatnot, is his first feature, official feature, Waiting For Guffman from 1996.
Your cheapo plot synopsis is this.
Oh, boy.
Ooh, sorry.
An aspiring director in the marginally talented amateur cast of a hokey small town Missouri musical production go overboard when they learn that someone from Broadway may be in attendance.
Hence the title, Waiting For Guffman.
Speaking of which, tonight, y'all are waiting on me.
We have a special guest on this particular review, as they do all reviews.
Mr.
Venom is here.
How are you doing, sir?
Greetings and salutations, mockumentary fans.
Yes, Gary, I'm doing great.
How are you doing?
And Iris is here.
How are you doing, babe?
I am just doing wonderful.
Just loving these mockumentaries, because, man, I dig these movies.
Yeah, good times, good times.
Your principal cast for this one is a pretty big one, because he keeps a lot of the same cast, which is what I love about these films, is that they're all, all the stuff is not scripted.
It's improvised.
And if you do a little bit of research on this, he shoots 10-minute-long scenes at a time without, you know, direction.
And he ends up with almost 60 hours of film by the end of the shoot, and he has to cut that to 90 minutes.
So taking all these comedy people and letting them work and then saying, okay, we're going to keep this.
It has to be a difficult task to begin with.
Your principal cast, Christopher Guest himself as Corky St.
Clair, our drama director.
Yeah, good stuff.
Eugene Levy as Dr.
Alan Pearl.
Fred Willard as Rob Albertson.
Catherine Arrera as Sheila Albertson.
Parker Posey as Libby Mae Brown.
Louis Arquette as Clifford Woolley.
Bob Balaban, my man.
I love this guy.
Lloyd Miller.
Matt Kieslar as Johnny Savage.
Michael Hitchcock as Steve Stark.
Larry Miller as Mayor Glenn Welsh.
It's important to see a lot of these names because a lot of them are going to show up again in these other movies, for sure.
Small roles, David Cross as the UFO expert.
Paul Dooley as the UFO abductee.
My favorite parts of this entire movie involves him.
Brian Doyle-Burry shows up for like a hot second.
Oh my gosh.
Linda Cash as Mrs.
Pearl.
I love her character.
Yeah, filmed in Texas, not in Blaine, Missouri, where this film is supposed to take place, which is if I love what he does here, especially with this and like best in show, anything he does, he takes an idea, you know, this idea of a small town who's famous for one thing and they're oh so proud of this one thing and they just blow the shit up.
And it's amazing.
I forgot to mention that the music and lyrics are written by Christopher Guest, Michael McKeon and Harry Shearer don't show up in this movie at all.
They show up in the next one.
I'll start with Venom.
Go for it.
Waiting For Guffman.
It's the first time watching me, by the way.
No, definitely not a first time watch for me.
I've been a fan of Christopher Guest since, well, really since Spinal Tap, even though I know he didn't write in direct Spinal Tap.
I mean, just watching their performances, the main three guys, McKee and Shearer and Guest as the band, just absolutely blew me away, made me an absolute fan of the mockumentary style of filmmaking, and it just makes sense that I followed Christopher Guest's career along the way.
So Waiting For Guffman, this is one I would have seen, you know, less than a year after its release.
I wasn't quite going to see every Christopher Guest movie in theaters.
It probably wasn't until Best in Show that I started that streak, and at this point, I haven't missed any since.
Waiting For Guffman is an odd animal, though.
I love all of the Christopher Guest films, all the mockumentaries.
I mean, hell, I'll even, you know, go to Bat For Mascots, which I know a lot of people kind of poo-pooed a few years ago.
But this one, I find this one to be the most emotional and the least funny of his films.
Now, I'm not saying the film is not funny.
The film is hysterical, but you have to realize that there are films out there like Best In Show and A Mighty Wind that literally leave my stomach hurting when the film is over.
This one, because of some of the quirky characters, because of some of the more kind of sad situations that some of these characters are going through, it injects a little bit more reality into the film than something like a spinal tap or a mighty wind.
And that kind of tends to bring down the comedic factor of the film.
In a sense that we watch a Christopher Guest movie to laugh, not to feel sad for characters' decisions and choices, things like that.
The movie is still incredibly well-performed.
It is incredibly funny.
I mean, this cast, as with all of Christopher Guest's films, casts are stellar, not just the main players, but even the secondary roles as well.
The journeyman actors and actresses that he gets to be in his films is just amazing.
You know, the comedy is still there and it's still on point.
I think the reason that I look at Waiting For Guffman is one of my lesser favorite guest movies is because of my lack of interest in the subject matter.
When we go back and look through all the films that he's done, you know, best in show, I've been married to a veterinarian for 26 years, so of course by association, I love animals and I love best in show.
Spinal Tap, again, not a Christopher Guest direct film, but, you know, I'm obviously a heavy metal dude.
You know, the attitude, the lifestyle, it's always worked for me.
A Mighty Wind, even though I'm not a fan of folk music, I am still a musician and a fan of playing live, so to actually see the ins and outs of putting this show together was extremely entertaining for me.
Now, musical theater is something I've never been the biggest fan of.
At no point in my life have I ever been a fan of musical theater, and I think because of my lack of interest in that topic, this one doesn't always work for me as much.
Like I said, it's still an amazing film.
The triumph of this film is the fact that it's done without a script, the fact that for the most part only the songs were written when they were going into the production of this one.
They had some scenarios in mind here and there, but no actual lines.
And allowing this group of actors to kind of ad lib or improv the entire film and still come up with something this funny and this entertaining is an absolute triumph.
Now, obviously, as I've already said, I feel like a couple other examples of guest films kind of nail the aesthetic a little bit more.
I'm kind of a Mighty Wind guy.
Mighty Wind is probably my favorite Christopher Guest movie, and it was not upon first watch.
That basically came about over 20 years of watching every Christopher Guest movie incessantly.
I own all of them, and I watch them constantly.
They're all pretty much annual watches for me.
On Mighty Wind, I tend to watch two or three times a year, actually.
So, you know, the whole gist of what I'm trying to say is that I love Christopher Guest films, but Waiting For Guffman is the one that I have the least attachment to, and I am very, you know, open to the fact that it's probably because I have no interest in musical theater, but still an incredibly funny film, an absolute must watch for comedy fans, and, you know, it's required viewing if you're a fan of any kind of mockumentary style filmmaking.
So, yeah, still an absolute classic film.
It's interesting the way you describe, you know, you're the least interested in this one.
No, go ahead, Gary.
No, he was the least interested in, you know, the subject matter of this one.
I think Christopher Guest's ability, the people that are involved in his films, their ability to make me care about the subject matter is a pretty magical thing, I think.
I don't know what it is, but...
Absolutely.
I mean, like I said, the fact that I have such little interest in that subject matter, yet still watch Waiting For Guffman every year or a couple of years, says something to Christopher Guest's filmmaking and just how he shoots his scenes, like you said, shooting these long scenes and then editing the best parts of them together.
That is the triumph of this movie, is in its filmmaking.
And like I said, despite me having no interest in musical theater, I can still watch this movie and enjoy it.
I just want to let it be known that it is definitely one of my lesser movies.
It's the one that I gravitate towards the least.
When I feel like a Christopher Guest movie, it's not likely going to be Waiting For Guffman.
Iris, I'm sorry.
Go ahead, girl.
Oh, what?
Iris, I think she hit herself on mute, maybe.
Are you there, Venom?
Doesn't look like she's muted.
I don't know.
She's not talking.
Yes, sir.
I just beg you, if you're there.
Yeah, she's not muted.
She's not talking.
I mean, maybe she's in the process of getting disconnected.
Could be, could be.
My energy's been going crazy all day because of the...
I think it's because of the terrible weather we've been having.
It's been raining and threatening to rain all day.
There we go.
Yeah, she got bumped.
Go ahead and do it.
I got to tell the guys in the group though, I try to keep you guys abreast though when we're doing the next one, so if you want to happen to jump on the next ones...
Yeah.
You just gotta go by the...
Monday's already fresh cuts night for me.
Gotcha.
Yeah, Thursday was Thursday.
Thursday I may be open.
Okay, yeah, Thursday is a Best In Show with Bo, and I think sometime that weekend is gonna be a mighty win with Scott.
I gotta hit up Scott to see where he's available and where they're available, and it's all got to line up, and I hate the fucking scheduling so much.
Couldn't do what Duncan does though.
Fuck no.
Wouldn't fucking want it.
Oh, hell no.
No, no, no, no.
No way.
I need to have a life.
I might drop.
That's way too much poker to podcast and edit as much as Duncan does.
I may, I may drop out of Summer Series though, because I'm trying to get all my little houses in order here just to, I haven't released much and that's my fault.
And I'm trying to get, I'm trying to get abreast with all my co-hosts and get it going on.
We have a regular day for two Jigmin commentaries now.
So that's going to help things.
And like I said, we're going to record some surplus shows with some guys.
So if you're interested in doing some surplus shows with me, I'll be looking for some co-hosts for those.
And I'm not sure what those are going to be yet, but I just want to get some in the can so I can not bug Iris and Suzanne so much.
Yeah, definitely.
I'll keep you informed.
I'm always down.
I'll keep you informed on what that's going to be.
Yeah.
Oh, I got my phone on.
I don't think I have my phone on, so let me fix that problem.
What did I just do here?
Oh, excuse me.
What are you guys doing next time?
No room in hell.
Oh, what are we doing?
The Ruins and Atrocious, which is Atrocious is a Spanish found footage movie.
I knew what The Ruins was.
And then The Ruins, of course, the classic.
What's that?
I knew what The Ruins was.
I wasn't sure about the other one.
Yeah, yeah, it's a weird one.
It's kind of obscure.
Not a lot of people have seen it.
Like I said, it's just a it's a weird found footage movie, you know, and it's in Spanish.
So it's probably not anything that American horror fans are going to kind of seek out.
But it's one that I enjoyed when I saw it a couple of years ago.
So this is basically a revisit for me.
I don't want to read the movie, damn it.
I'm that kind of American person.
No, I read the movie all the time.
I did fine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I was talking that whole time and then realized that I wasn't even on the call anymore.
Yeah, you're cut off.
Yeah.
So we basically didn't get anything of yours, so you could just start over.
Well, I will start all over again.
OK, so for me, I love theater.
I love live theater.
I've done live theater.
So this movie is a lot of fun for me.
The way the characters are and the dynamic between all of them, how Ron, you know, wants to loosen up Dr.
Pearlman.
And, you know, just the way they are and just the running gags in this whole thing.
Like Ron's peculiar surgery that he had to have.
So good.
One of the greatest screw the audience jokes ever.
Right, right.
And it's like, here, you know, you're a doctor, right?
Oh, my God.
And the Chinese restaurant scene.
Oh, my God.
That is the best scene right there.
Where, you know, of course, Sheila's like, so what's it like, you know, being with an uncircumcised man?
Of course, the Pearls, you know, the Pearls, the Dr.
Pearls, you know, Ellen and his wife are like, you know, so yeah, the egg rolls are really good.
Can we have some coffee, please?
Coffee here?
Oh, my gosh.
But just that conversation there.
And then, of course, Ron relents and, you know, stands up and starts undoing his pants.
So Dr.
Perlman can look at his penis, I mean.
Okay, so of course, this movie was back in, what, 1996.
And the jokes that, you know, Alan Perl says of like, you know, oh, happy squad in Whampama, you know, and stuff.
And I'm like, of course, you know, stuff like that would not fly very well now, but.
Even his mild racism is pretty entertaining.
Right, exactly.
It is fucking hilarious.
So, and one of my favorite scenes also is when, when, when Lloyd Miller, which I love his name, basically goes, so Corky's gone and the show is mine now.
I'm going to be in there like, no.
So they all take off running, looking for Corky.
And this scene always reminds me of when they go looking for the two ghosts in the attic in Beetlejuice.
It's the same fucking scene, man, because they're all running up the stairs and they're all banging on the door and trying to figure out what's going on in there.
And then one of them's like, no, no, stop, stop.
Just leave them alone.
It's the same exact scene.
And that always cracks me up because it's like, I'm watching Beetlejuice.
What am I watching here?
But there's just a lot in this whole thing.
And of course, just these little snippets, right?
Like Paul Dooley.
That.
So they put us in these different rooms and then I got probed and then all of them came in and they all probed me.
Not all at the same time.
It's like, don't feel my buttocks.
Just don't feel the buttocks.
So good.
It's like a little minute gag, but I can't stop laughing.
All of them are, right?
And of course you've got the UFO, David Cross, when he's like, you know, Blaine, if you scramble up the world, you know, the words, it's Nelby or something like that.
You know, I was just waiting for him to go, it's alien.
But yeah, you know, I think this is like you guys were saying, this is the genius of this filmmaking, right?
To be able to do, have these wonderful comedians do these long scenes and then go and edit and put everything together where it is a coherent movie that you can follow along is just fucking amazing to me.
And the way they break the fourth wall too, because it's a mockumentary, so you know that they're talking to the screen, but it kind of makes you feel not like you are in it with them, but like you are an actual character sitting, watching them do all this wacky rehearsing and actually sitting in the audience there with them.
So I think it's just a wonderful movie.
And of course, the final gag of Waiting For Guffman, you know, it's kind of like a play off of Waiting For Godot.
It's just hilarious when they all realize that they have acted and sang their little hearts out and it just didn't pan out the way they thought it was going to.
It's hilarious, just fucking hilarious.
I just love this movie.
I love so many things about this movie, but what Christopher Guest does with Parker Posey in all these movies, I know her first and foremost from Daisy Confused in films like that, where she's like the assertive dominant female type, but he turns into these almost pathetic characters in a way.
Like very, very humble.
They have like a past you're not sure about, but sometimes you know about.
This one is just a girl who sort of has big dreams.
Who happens to work at the Dairy Queen.
And that if it doesn't pan out, well, at least the Dairy Queen will take me back.
You know, it just it's it's one of those small town things.
The scenes in the film.
Oh, absolutely.
But that's what it's funny, because that's one of the scenes in the movie that actually kind of depresses me.
The fact that she's sitting there with a defeatist attitude and just accepting the fact that, well, I guess the Dairy Queen will always have me.
It's like, oh my God, that's such a terrible attitude.
I mean, you know, it's a small town and I understand, you know, big dreams don't come often, but man.
It's a small town dream, right?
Exactly.
No, big time.
And, you know, and I appreciate the fact that actors will bust their hump to, you know, get this stuff made, make it as entertaining as possible, everything else.
But man, this is one of the things, this is another thing about this movie that kind of doesn't entertain me as much as some of the past ones.
It's what I like to call the post-event scene.
In all of the Christopher Guest movies, there's always one big event that they're leading up to.
Obviously in Best in Show, it's the dog show.
In A Mighty Wind, it's the big show at Town Hall.
And then there's the scenes afterward, like what are they doing now?
And in Best in Show and A Mighty Wind, they're not nearly as depressing.
They're like, they're a lot more joyful and, you know, and funny a lot of the times.
In this movie, it seems like everyone is worse off after the show.
You know, Fred and Catherine O'Hare moved to Hollywood.
They don't have a car.
They can't afford to do anything.
Obviously, Parker Posey, you know, moving back in with her dad, her ex-con dad, and going back to the Dairy Queen.
Even Corky telling the horror stories of him moving back to New York and, you know, why he did it and everything else.
This movie, as much as I like this movie and I laugh throughout, it always tends to leave me a little sad at the end.
And that's probably why it's one that I don't always gravitate towards.
I want to be left with that funny bone kind of tingling when I walk away from a comedy.
I don't want to kind of be a little sad.
And again, this is just, it's just showing the great filmmaking of Christopher Guest once again, because he can make a comedy feel legitimately sad at times.
And, you know, again, that's a great thing.
It sounds like I'm complaining about it.
I'm not necessarily complaining.
I'm just saying that I personally, when I go into a Christopher Guest movie, I want to laugh, beginning to end.
And not to say that I'm not laughing beginning to end here, but there's enough of those sad post-event scenes that just leaves me a little sad is all.
Yeah, I get it.
Yeah.
I think that's the beauty of this whole thing though, right?
Because you kind of get invested in these characters.
Yes, absolutely.
In all his movies, I get invested in these characters.
Yeah, very much so.
I'm sorry, Gary.
No, no, it's okay.
No, I think it's important, you know, because every kid wants it.
It remains of the day, your lunchbox, as Corky describes, you know.
Brad Pack bubble heads, right?
Gosh, man.
I actually would love one of those Corky hand towels.
I would, I would spray that in my house.
No, the whole character of Corky Sinclair, from like the hair and the way he acts, and you know, he's, is he heterosexual?
You really don't know because he hires this mechanic to be an actor.
He's being really flirty with his mechanic and, you know.
I mean, he claims to have.
Yes, he claims that in life.
I've never seen her before, but maybe she's out of town or something.
It's a real small, small part of the film, but like the whole theater thing.
And he's this guy who's, you know, straight off the destroyer to New York City, you know, without a penny in her pocket, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada.
And it's it's it.
It seems like this is his home, but where he's from, because he's forced to come back here.
But we still kind of live in the broad, the off, Broadway's, you know, dream.
It's it's it's like like like Venom said, there's this there's a sense of patheticness here, which kind of makes you sad.
But you're you're emotionally invested in these characters.
Yeah, even Michael Hitchcock's character, you know, where he's this guy that that's helping help help help for the town.
I forget exactly what his title is.
But he he wants to be in the show so bad, but he can't be in the show because the mayor said that he had to work that day to do the audition.
But he still really loves to be in the.
And it's a really fun time.
But like Venom said, this is not one that I watched for the first time for the show.
I really I really enjoyed myself, you know, as much as the other ones.
But there is there is that sense of depression, you know, for these characters that makes you not want to go back to it.
I mean, you step in like best in show.
They're pathetic for different reasons.
I mean, I mean, Parker Posey's character is well off in the movie, you know, with her husband.
But they have a lot of problems clearly, you know, with themselves and their fucking dog, which proves, you know, you could you could be well off and be miserable at the same time.
But with them not being aware that you're miserable, you know, did you forget his toy?
How could you forget the Bumblebee when she accuses that hotel staff member of stealing her dog toy?
I just got out.
I'm like, that's exactly what she wants to steal from you.
A dog toy.
She's that funny, too.
It's like now you live in a world of Karen's.
And I look at that scene in a completely different context now.
Like, you know, it was funny before.
It's still a little insipid.
But now I look at it as, oh, there's the entitled white woman.
Accusing the minority of stealing from her.
I'm not going to say it's problematic in any way.
It's just it's one of those things in the back of my head that I think about now.
Like, holy shit, Parker Posey's a Karen.
Um, yeah, there's there's a lot.
I forget to mention that the whole plot of this film is for them to put on this play for their 150th anniversary of this town.
And the reason why it's called Waiting For Guffman, Corky gets a letter from I forget where, but basically says there's like a Broadway scout that's going to come out and watch the show.
So they're all waiting for their big break that, unfortunately, Guffman never comes and they're still they're still waiting.
But I'm filled with with songs that will stay in your head.
And the songs about, you know, I just maybe laugh what what I what I get is just part of the dialogue that blame Missouri is the stool capital of the USA.
And what I hear the word stool of irony.
Yeah.
Well, your stool, you know, you think of shit and you know, it's just great.
I don't know, man.
I don't know why I thought of that like right away.
But, you know, this being a small town as it is, them being this excited about their biggest claim to fame is that President McKinley came in and I was on his iron horse, a train to stop there by mistake or something in the game, the gift of a stool.
And ever since then, this was their top industry was making these stools and them making this play about this.
Again, there's a level of patheticness here that you're endeared by.
But at the same time you feel bad for these people.
So it leaves you with that feeling of, you know, how am I supposed to feel here?
You don't know what you're supposed to feel.
And that's what I kind of literally love about this movie.
I'm going to watch it more times for sure.
But yeah, I mean, right from the opening scene, it sets up the idiocy of this town.
I mean, literally, they're talking about setting up snipers to deter kids from throwing eggs.
Are you serious?
You're going to answer egg throwing with murder?
Holy crap.
And we can't have the porta potty too far away because the seniors can't get there in time.
Well, it is the stool capital of the world, right?
It all goes back to shit.
It does.
I do got to say though, and I know this is probably part of the comedy of the whole thing, but man, did Corky overreact to that letter?
I mean, all the letters said that they were sending a scout to kind of watch their show.
That was it.
And instantly Corky tells the rest of the production, we might go to Broadway.
It's like, whoa, how did you get that out of that one telegram from this agency?
It's like, yes, he's coming down.
Yes, he's going to watch it.
Might give you some pointers, some notes, things like that.
But Corky, of all people, should have known that more Guffman isn't coming down there potentially with a contract to sign them to Broadway.
You know what I mean?
It's a little overzealous on Corky's part, but again, that's probably part of the comedy.
So I tend to accept it.
Yeah, it's very, like you said, the whole thing just starts off the wall a bit.
And I mean, even the town itself, the existence of the town itself is a bit off the wall, though, isn't it?
Do you smell that salt air?
And they're like, oh, we're in California.
Oh, my God.
That should be the back the back story for like the Simpson Springfield or something.
He smelled salt and said, hey, we're in California.
We're in California.
Oh, my God.
And the whole thing of, and he, you know, he managed to, you know, convince them for a couple of months.
It was low tide.
Well, they just decided to stay there.
And name the town after him.
And damn, if that councilwoman isn't proud to be, you know, that was my great, great, great, great grandfather.
I'm like, I don't know if I'd be proud of that.
But she's one of the original blames, one of the original blames, you know.
Oh, man.
You know, I may be talking about how this is one of my least favorite Christopher Guest movies, but that doesn't mean that it's not wall to wall laughs throughout.
It's just, you know, maybe the laughs don't always resonate with me as much as some of his other films.
But I mean, don't let it be denied.
This movie is still an absolute comedy classic.
It's still incredibly funny, incredibly well made, and well, well worth anyone's time.
Like I said, I don't want to make it sound like I'm coming in negative on the movie.
Not at all.
I still, still really, really, really like this movie.
To say that it's my least favorite Christopher Guest is actually a compliment because I do love the movie.
I own it.
I own the Blu-ray.
Like I said, I tend to watch it periodically still.
It's just not the one that I watch the most.
So, I mean, that says a lot about, you know, my feelings for Christopher Guest and his filmmaking.
It's not your go-to.
Exactly.
It's just not my go-to.
That's all.
I prefer Friday the 13th, part four, to Friday the 13th, part seven.
Doesn't mean I still love part seven.
I think this is a fun thing.
I was just going to say that if you own the Blu-ray, there's also a lot of great scenes that were cut out.
Obviously, I mean, you know, we already have mentioned multiple times about how he had over 60 hours of footage to put into an hour and 25 minute long movie.
So there's obviously going to be some great, great scenes that are cut out.
But yeah, there's still a couple of really, really like classic, almost one liners and great scenes.
Like I really wish they would have put the Fred Willard and Catherine O'Hare baseball scene in the movie.
I absolutely love that scene.
Basically, Fred Willard's character, we don't really find out in the theatrical version of the movie, but in the deleted scenes, we find out that he's a big baseball buff, like a historian, like a baseball historian.
And he actually recreates the last at bat of the 1960 World Series.
And what's great about it is that he's enthusiastic and smiling and telling the story, but his wife, Catherine O'Hare, is drunk out of her mind and constantly just rolling her eyes every time he states a new fact to the point where he actually asks her to come and, you know, cause they're playing with a whiffle ball and a whiffle bat.
And he basically asks her to come and pitch, you know, give him a nice easy pitch to hit so that he can recreate that last at bat of that World Series, the Pittsburgh Pirates, of course, winning that one.
And the first time she throws the ball, she throws it right at his damn head because she's just got this look of, I don't want to deal with your shit right now.
You know, her eyes are half closed.
She looks like she'd rather be anywhere else in the world.
And then finally, she gives him a pitch that he could hit.
He does his hitting it out of the park and running around the bases.
And she literally just walks out of the scene in frustration.
And you can still see her way in the background as he continues, as Fred Willard's character continues to talk about baseball.
And she's way in the background just like, when will he shut up?
That is the scene I really, it's a little bit long.
It's like a six minute scene, which is going to add a lot.
But, you know, to the duration of the film.
But man, do I wish they left that in there.
There's also another deleted scene with Corky telling the story of whales, for some reason.
And he ends the story with one of the greatest one-liners that I'm so upset is not in the actual film.
He looks dead in the camera and says, I'd love to ride the back of sperm whale, among other things.
It's literally the gayest thing he said in the whole production, and they cut it out of the movie.
I was so upset.
Oh, and then, now, the reason why I tend to say that even these deleted scenes aren't as good as some of the ones from, like, Best in Show and Mighty Wind is because in the deleted scene is the full production of Red, White and Blaine.
It's literally a 40-minute play.
What we get in, like, what, five, six, seven minutes in the theatrical version is actually a 40-minute scene.
And some of the songs, and I'm gonna point out one specifically, the boring song, the one about nothing ever happens in Blaine, the whole version of that song is absolutely insipid and unlistenable.
Like, I wanted to pull my damn ears off halfway through the song.
It's just so great that Christopher Guest knows exactly how much of a bad song to leave in the movie so that it's still entertaining and not irritating.
Because holy shit, that whole song is irritating.
But yeah, well worth a Blu-ray purchase just to get these deleted scenes.
There's over a half hour of them.
I think it's like 34 minutes total of just deleted scenes.
And then the commentary with Christopher Guest and Eugene Levy is absolutely classic.
So yeah, well worth your 10, 15 bucks.
Highly recommend.
Nice, nice.
Yeah, I just love how quirky in this movie is so out of place with everybody else and everywhere he goes.
I mean, he claims to have a wife, so he can shop for women's clothes and they'd not be looked upon as weird.
But he has, just to describe his look, he has a bold haircut with his beard going on and he has a lisp.
So that doesn't tell you anything that's stereotypically, you know, homosexual possibly, you know.
Don't forget the earring.
And the earring, yes, the gauge in his ear.
To the point, I love it.
It's a real small fucking thing.
It makes Brian Doyle Mauricio of this movie.
When he goes to the mechanic shop to get the young, to get the young, you know, I guess, thing to be in the play, Brian Doyle Mauricio gives him this look like, you know, why are you looking at my son like that, queer?
Basically, you know.
It's like, who the fuck is this guy?
It's like, did you put that fan belt on that car?
Oh, yeah, a little shit like that.
I can't get enough of...
Brian Doyle Murray is one of those guys that makes me laugh just by standing there.
I don't know what it is about him, but he doesn't even need a line.
Like, when he was just standing there staring at his son while Corky was asking him to be in the show, I was losing it.
I'm just like, holy shit, that is some great face acting right there.
And I see it all the time with him, because he's never really been, like, the star of a film.
He's always, like, a second player in the film.
But any film that he's in, it just...
He ends up stealing the scene.
He steals the scene in Scrooge, when he actually is playing opposite his son in the flashback scene.
I just, man, he is an underappreciated treasure.
Why don't you get a job and get a choo-choo?
So good.
Oh, I forgot to mention, there's actually a great deleted scene on here.
This is one of the long ones.
It's almost like an eight-minute long deleted scene.
But basically, it's Corky going around to all the different homes and places of business businesses to let the actors know they got the role.
Apparently, Corky doesn't call people.
He doesn't do telegrams or anything.
He literally likes to do it face to face.
So at the beginning of the scene, he pulls up to the drive-through at Dairy Queen, orders a Coke, and then lets Parker Posey know that she got the role.
Everybody in the Dairy Queen goes crazy.
He then goes to the travel agency with Catherine O'Hare and Fred Willard.
With them, because they've worked in productions together, he doesn't even get out of his car.
He literally pulls up to the front of their travel agency, beeps the horn, and then just gives the thumbs up and drives away.
And you could see Fred and Catherine do their little bit of a celebration.
And then the scene ends with him going to Eugene Levy's dentist office.
And that's the high point of this scene, because Eugene Levy is literally in the middle of giving anesthetic to an older gentleman.
He looks like an octogenarian.
And he literally, as soon as Corky walks in and tells him that he got the role, you know, he starts freaking out.
He didn't think he had a chance, you know, blah, blah, blah.
And then ends up forgetting about the old man in the chair with the mask, with the CO2 mask still on his head.
Hopefully the man didn't die.
We don't see the rest of it.
But it just literally the fact that at the end of the scene, he walks out the door and says, Oh, I forgot about this guy.
He still had the CO2 mask on his face.
Excuse me, the not CO2.
It's the nitrogen.
Nitrogen.
Thank you.
CO2.
I'm thinking of fucking cars.
Well, I'm like, yeah, he's dead if he had CO2.
That old guy's dead.
Oh, yeah.
Like I said, this this goddamn movie, I would love to see like a three or four hour cut of this movie.
Assuming there was enough funny scenes filmed, this would be a Saturday afternoon I would love to spend, you know, with any of his films, with the full versions, with like all the footage.
Obviously, everything's not going to be gold.
There's going to be plenty of takes that where nothing is funny or the actors couldn't think of a good line, whatever the case may be.
But anything that's even mildly entertaining, I mean, he could probably put like a three or four hour cut of some of his films together, and it would still be endlessly entertaining.
So, you know, for a chance to dream.
I totally agree with you, man.
I think that Dr.
Pearl, Eugene Levy, is probably the least pathetic one, you know, to come out at the end of this, because even when the play was shut down, he's like, well, I just went back to my life again of, you know, being a doctor.
And, you know, I hope it goes back, but if it doesn't, you know, it's not that big of a deal to him, you know.
You could see the heartbreak.
You could see the heartbreak in his eyes because it was, he was finally doing what he wanted to do all his life.
And he got taken away from him.
But even Parker Posey, you know, Levy goes ahead.
I was just gonna say, Eugene Levy is another one that, thank God, they didn't include this deleted scene in the theatrical version.
But in the deleted scene, in the more extended cut of his post-interview, he actually does let us know that he and his wife separated because she had no interest in moving to Miami for him to become a lounge singer.
Yeah, so it's like he takes it well.
He's like, well, I'm living my dream.
I don't have my wife, but I'm living my dream, so I guess that's a good thing.
So he still has a good attitude about it, but I just feel bad that, you know, he kind of lost his wife just because he wanted to, you know, follow his dream.
Kind of sucks.
I mean, I mentioned, you know, that Parker Posey's kind of pathetic in this movie in the sense that she has the Dairy Queen to look forward to, but there's that one small scene where she's describing what she does as a Dairy Queen, and, you know, she's kind of proud that she puts blizzards together.
So it's not like she's thinking this is a bad thing.
It's just, you know, like you said, there's that crest fall moment for all these people to where she said, well, I guess they'll always take it back at the Dairy Queen, but she had pride in this job, even though it's a small thing, to the point of when she moves back to go live with her father in Alabama or something, I think this is Alabama, that she goes to work at another Dairy Queen.
It's like, yeah, this is just something she likes to do.
You know, make people happy with ice cream.
And I think it's funny that you mentioned there's a deleted scene where the way he tells her she got the play was to go to the drive-thru and get a Coke.
That's one of the things that she mentions in her little, you know, I have pride that I work at Dairy Queen speeches.
Like if you want, if you're just thirsty, come get a Coke at the drive-thru, you know?
It's one of the small things, you know?
Absolutely.
No, definitely.
You know, I would never think to call any of these people quote unquote losers.
Not at all.
No.
If they're happy in their life, then they're happy in hell.
They're happy, they're probably happier than most of us living in a house making good money.
So, you know, rock on to them.
No, I forgot this.
The part in the beginning of the play, the first song in Corky, doesn't want the doctor to wear his glasses because they didn't exist in 18 wherever the hell it is.
Oh, God, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's explaining the one, he's got the one crossed eye because the glasses fixed this.
But when they put that big, they put that fucking big amount of guy liner on the guys in these movies, he has it all up in his eyes, that crossed eye just sticks out like a sore thumb and I can't stop laughing.
Yeah, that is the most epic, lazy eye I have ever seen.
That was amazing.
Oh, man, this little shit makes you laugh in this movie.
No, it's true.
This movie is, I mean, this along with all Christopher Guest movies are just filled with these little moments that, you know, we all end up falling in love with, either because they're, you know, charming, heartwarming, or just because they're gustingly funny.
And, you know, again, the genius of Christopher Guest, you know, at display here, and for many more films after this, too.
So I'm glad he didn't have a short career because I love my Machiavelli.
Stool Capitol of the USA.
I would be, I would consider myself a happy man if I could visit the stool capital of the United States.
I don't know, I think it'd be a little shitty.
God, you walked right into that one.
There you go.
I did not plan on setting her up that well.
You stepped into that really well.
Oh, she's still going.
Much like.
I miss podcasting with you guys.
I do.
You know, me too, man.
A lot of films like this, you know, the budget was four million.
It only made 2.9 billion.
Four million only made 2.9 million in the box office.
But, you know, this had a following that I've heard about for years.
And I've never seen it before.
I know a lot of my friends who are in musical theater, whether in high school or beyond.
And I worked the stage crew.
So I've seen a lot of these personalities, you know, pop out like this.
You know, divas, semi stars, you know, you know, whatever you want to call it.
But yeah, it's one of those things.
It's like in every one of these movies where the characters they're portraying are not that far off from the real thing.
And I've known people who have had show...
My friend's mother was in the show dog industry and best in show, much like, you know, Spinal Tapping Musicians is hard to watch sometimes because the whole idea of them getting lost on the way to the stage is a very real thing.
And the idea of the personalities of these people who have these fucking dogs is a very real thing.
These musical theater people types, you know, like Corky, they're not non-existent.
And if that's all that he knows, that's all he cares about, and, you know, if it doesn't go his way, he's literally going to go bite his pillow, apparently, because, you know, just throwing the gay shit out there again, you know, man, it's so funny, though.
Oh, I'll kick it to you, Venom.
Any final thoughts?
And rating one to 10, sir.
Oh, final thoughts.
I mean, as with all Christopher Guest movies, it's an absolute comedy classic.
It may not make you laugh as much as some of his others, or this one might make you laugh more than his others, depending on, you know, your interests and just how it hits you when you watch it.
Still great one-liners through and through.
One last scene that I actually wanted to highlight before we finish off here was Fred Willard and Catherine O'Hare's audition.
And part of the reason that I love this scene is that I recognize the dialogue.
I'm old enough to recognize where that dialogue is coming from.
Iris might be right there with me, but basically they sing Midnight At The Oasis, but they're also doing a live action like skit with dialogue while they're doing the song.
Do you know where that dialogue comes from, Iris?
Oh my God, it sounds familiar, but...
It's from a Taster's Choice commercial from 1979.
Oh my God.
And the first time I watched this movie and I heard Catherine O'Hare speaking in the British accent and saying the lines, I'm like, wait a minute, why is this so familiar?
Like, I thought, you know, obviously, since I know nothing about musical theater, I thought it was actually, the first time I watched this movie, I actually thought it was part of the song, Midnight At The Oasis.
I thought that was just like a classic presentation of that song.
But no, I find out later, more recently really, only over the last few years, that this is actually a combination of Midnight At The Oasis, which by the way, they got to use because Christopher Guest is personal friends with the man who wrote the song.
So that's why they're able to put the song in the movie.
And then the other thing is the fact that it's combined with the dialogue from a Taster's Choice commercial.
It's such a quirky, silly thing that most people won't notice, but the fact that I noticed it just, it blew my mind the first time I saw it.
And honestly, very few people know where that dialogue comes from, because not a lot of people watching movies like this were around, or at least were almost adults in 1979.
Exactly, exactly.
So cool.
So anyway, rating, I mean, I'm not gonna give this a low rating.
Like I said, this is not my, I still recognize its brilliance.
I recognize its comedic triumph.
I recognize its amazing filmmaking.
Just almost everything about it works for me in every way, with the little minor caveats that I kind of discussed during this podcast.
So I'm gonna come in with this one with an 8.5 out of 10, whereas most Christopher Guest movies for me are nines and above.
Like I said, this one is just a half a step below, but still a very solid 8.5 out of 10.
Cool, Iris.
Okay, well, for me, like I said, I do enjoy this one.
I do enjoy this one a lot.
It's quirky.
Kind of like with you, Gary, I know a lot of people like this.
You know, the overachiever theater guy, the one who wants to be funny but really isn't, the ones that, you know, like, well, we're in every production, so we are the king and queen of the theater.
Every single person.
Even the jealous music director because he's the one that should be directing the show.
So it's funny, it's quirky, it's real life to me at some points because it's just such funny shit.
So I am going to give this a nine.
Nice.
Yeah, it's the first time I'm watching it.
I don't want to give the rating too high.
I do really enjoy it.
I'm with Venom on the 8.5 and I'll say one thing, a fun double bill with this, if you guys haven't seen it yet, please watch it soon.
It's Hamlet 2 with Steve Coogan where he plays a high school drama teacher who writes a play for Inner City Use which is a sequel to Hamlet that involves time travel and Jesus Christ.
It's just a quirky comedy and I think they would be really enjoyable together.
I'm going to watch that soon, actually.
I miss that fucking movie.
This one fits, again, I just watched it today for the first time and already it fits right in the pantheon of the rest of these.
It just fits there.
I think it's the people involved and them being able to work together, because that helps.
The chemistry of the actors, if they didn't have that, it would never work amongst anything.
It works so well in this movie, even if it's not your favorite, like Venom said, because of the subject matter.
But like I said, he makes you give a shit about the subject matter.
And that's hard for me to say, especially with like a mighty wind, to make me give a shit about folk music.
But I gave a shit about folk music by the way that movie was over.
Exactly.
But yeah, it's really enjoyable, 8.5.
And that's it for this one.
We'll see you guys right after this break.
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Well, kids, did you enjoy the show?
I sure as hell love making this show and I think that, you know, all my love and all the people involved in this episode has proven that and I hate to use the word rejuvenated me as a podcaster, but you're only good as your support team, in my opinion.
At least I made solo shows out there.
So thank you, Ricky.
Thank you, X.
Thank you, Iris.
Thank you, Mr.
Venom.
You'll hear some of these people on the next episode.
And thank you to Suzanne.
How dare I?
Thank you, Suzanne.
You'll hear some of these people on the next episode for sure.
Bo Ransdell will be here with Mr.
Venom to discuss Best In Show with us and the full crew on that one.
And at least one smoke show, Scott Crawford, will be here to discuss A Mighty Wind with us.
And if you guys like that little jab in the middle there, the little surprise, Crippled Theater will be back next episode with Ricky Morgan.
Ricky Morgan, not of the Rock and Roll Express.
Ricky Morgan of the Hail Ming Power Hour will be with me again.
We do Mr.
No Legs.
Again, I can't express my gratitude any more than I can, you know, as I am right now.
I mean, thank you for listening for all this time through hiatuses and lulls and my own stupid fucking brain not working correctly as far as depression and whatever goes.
But love to you.
See you guys all next time on part two of The Beef Versus.
This is Three Parts People.
And remember, here at the Cinema Beef Podcast, if you've got beef, we've got the grinder.
See you next time.