{ "version": "1.0.0", "segments": [ { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "0.0", "endTime": "14.495", "body": "Let's go we gotta go with the old school, man. Well, the Fire Branded, I'm TJ Haynes, the undisputed technician of the truth. And today, we are talking about that very word. Yes. We're talking about the truth." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "14.575001", "endTime": "33.379997", "body": "We're talking about Catholics' misalignment with the truth. Wrong camera, stupid. We're talking about Catholics' misalignment with the truth. We're talking about how it mimics and mirrors some things that we hear or that we get from here we go. Some things that we get from Catholics who become Protestant." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "33.379997", "endTime": "60.03", "body": "So that's Protestant converts who used to be Catholic. We're gonna talk about how that that misalignment with truth is the same missile the same class of misalignment with truth we see with Catholics in the church. Many of them who who see themselves as traditional, orthodox, and that sort of thing. And I'm gonna give you a background story as to why this came up. We're also gonna go through some bits and pieces from the church fathers." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "60.03", "endTime": "83.915", "body": "They had a few things to say about truth and being aligned with the truth. They also had a couple of things to say about outfits in, for instance, for instance, Catholic media who intentionally lie and distort the truth. For games, for clicks, for an agenda, who the hell knows? You'd have to ask them. That's what's on tap tonight with Fire Branded." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "83.915", "endTime": "101.835", "body": "And I thank you very much for joining me. Hello to those of you catching me live throughout the no galaxy. You can bring that music to a stop. Those of you catching me live throughout the galaxy for the first time in a very long time, I'm broadcasting live to Instagram today. So thank you, Instagrammers, for checking me out." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "101.835", "endTime": "121.85", "body": "I have to tell you right at the top, I can't pay attention to three chatting platforms at the same time. So you may say some things that I might net not see at all, might see them toward the bottom of the show. Usually, when people comment, I respond to their questions or comments. Okay? I might not respond to yours because let's let's just see." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "122.89", "endTime": "136.995", "body": "Hello to Lloyd Monfort. Check me out over there at the forge. Alright. So at the top of the show, I have a were a few words of wisdom and warning for people who call themselves former Catholics who became Protestant. Okay?" }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "136.995", "endTime": "156.07501", "body": "And then I'm gonna tell you why this this topic, misalignment with truth, has come up. Okay? First, this is, like, people's favorite part. I don't know why because this is, the thing that I least like to do is addressing Protestants. But I don't know." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "156.07501", "endTime": "168.315", "body": "People seem to enjoy it. And I'm not doing it because they enjoy it. I'm doing it because things come up. So check it out. Some words of wisdom and warning to those out there who were Catholic or well, they're still Catholic." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "168.315", "endTime": "185.52", "body": "They just don't know that. Who were Catholic and are now Protestant. Everyone's path to Protestantism is different, and it is always based on error. It's always a mistake, and they just don't know that it's a mistake. You probably many of you I'm gonna go through two major major characterizations." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "186.21501", "endTime": "200.13501", "body": "Many former, so called former Catholics, became Protestant because they were searching for something. They found their lives empty without God. Maybe they were born Catholic and maybe raised Catholic. Who knows? Maybe they went to Catholic school all twelve years." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "200.13501", "endTime": "214.29999", "body": "We all love that. But they reached a point of their lives. They hadn't been practicing religion for most of their lives for many years, and they reach a point where they're searching. And so they go to the path of least resistance. Some of them do go back to the Catholic church." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "215.645", "endTime": "241.5", "body": "Many do not. Many try the local nondenominational Protestant church or evangelical church, or they explore some newfangled non Catholic Christian church who's advertising on local TV or at, train stations or something. I they've seen this ad. There's a lot of money behind the ad. So, of course, there's a lot of production power behind the ad." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "241.99501", "endTime": "250.95502", "body": "Everybody in there is a model. Everybody looks happy. They're all in church waving their hands, clapping their hands. There's great, tremendous graphics. Very high level production." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "251.91501", "endTime": "277.095", "body": "And then right there in the middle is pastor Bob. On the weekends, he's pastor Bob. During the week, he owns Bob's barbecue joint on Route 66. But there he is, pastor Bob, right in the middle of all these happy people laughing and smiling, clapping their hands, and some of them are like this because they're just so taken by Jesus and Jesus and Jesus. And the header of the ad might say, are y'all looking for Jesus?" }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "277.495", "endTime": "287.61002", "body": "We found him right here at pastor Bob's church. Come and see us sometime. We include free barbecue ribs. I don't know. Something like that." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "287.61002", "endTime": "314.58002", "body": "The point is there's something in the visual and production language that speaks to you, and you're like, that, how those people look, is how I want to feel. And so you explore, and there you start to fall down a hole. Some people are searching for religion, and they come across a friend who says, well, I can I can help help you to find Jesus Christ? Yeah. Well, I was, you know, I was born and, you know, baptized Catholic." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "314.74", "endTime": "333.235", "body": "I know. But, honey, do you know that the Catholic church is pagan? Says it right there in the Bible, the Catholic church worships Mary. Not supposed to do that and you ain't supposed to make idols for yourselves, but don't they have all sorts of idols, hon? Honey, they got idols all over the place in the Catholic in the Roman Catholic church." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "333.235", "endTime": "348.09003", "body": "Honey, do you know why it's called Roman? Oh, sweetie, let me tell you. It's called Roman Catholic church because Rome was pagan. That's fact. And the pagan Romans created the Catholic church to keep people in to keep people under control and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "348.73", "endTime": "360.84503", "body": "Okay. I'm lampooning. I'm stretching the truth just a tiny bit, but actually not too much. Not too much am I stretching that truth. But the point is, Catholics are seduced by Protestants." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "361.64502", "endTime": "375.13998", "body": "Protestants who they may be well meaning. They may very well be well meaning. Some of them are not. But some of them may be well meaning. But the trouble is they're telling lies because that's what they possess." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "375.13998", "endTime": "392.435", "body": "You can't give what you don't have. You only give what you do have. And if what you do have is lies about the Catholic church, then that's what you are giving to people. Lies about the Catholic church. So you start saying things like, look at how many things they do in the Catholic church that aren't in the in the Bible." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "392.675", "endTime": "410.12", "body": "Everything in Christianity has to be in the Bible. Bible, Bible, Bible, y'all. Well, where is that in the Bible? Everything you do in the Christianity, it has to be explicit in the Bible, in all of these 66 books or however many they have left after they took out the seven. In all these books." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "410.12", "endTime": "420.10498", "body": "Well, where is that in the Bible? These specific books. Where's the table of contents? I haven't seen one. And you know them, Roman Catholics took out seven books from the Bible." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "420.185", "endTime": "426.76", "body": "Oh my god. They did. Yeah. Look at your own Bible, sweetie. Your own Bible has 70 whatever it is." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "426.76", "endTime": "435.48", "body": "77. Right? Is it 77? It has that many books in the Bible. And and this is how many the actual Bible has." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "436.04", "endTime": "463.34", "body": "Even Saint Jerome, what you what y'all call Saint Jerome, even he did not want to translate those extra seven books, but the Roman emperor said he would torture Jerome to death unless he translated them seven extra books. Honey, you know the Jews didn't use them seven extra books. Oh my god. The Catholic church added seven books to the Bible? Oh my god." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "463.74", "endTime": "474.30502", "body": "Oh my god. How evil. For those of you who don't know, we did not add seven books to the Bible. The reformers removed them. But that's another conversation." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "475.505", "endTime": "491.495", "body": "Alright. So you get the idea. Then you go to a Protestant church and you're feeling the love of Jesus, y'all. You're feeling the love of Jesus because you're excited and pastor Bob is swinging on a rope and he's flying y'all Cause he," }, { "speaker": "Speaker 2", "startTime": "491.495", "endTime": "515.43", "body": "and then he pastor Bob starts to talking and he starts to shucking and jiving y'all. And then all of a sudden somebody in the crowd catches the holy spirit and says, you're like, holy crap. The holy spirit is all over this place. And then you're so moved by the music. It's ACDC playing, y'all, except they're they're they changed." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 2", "startTime": "515.83", "endTime": "517.27", "body": "They changed their name." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "517.27", "endTime": "520.74506", "body": "The AC means all about Christ, And" }, { "speaker": "Speaker 2", "startTime": "520.74506", "endTime": "534.265", "body": "the DC means don't care about no Roman Catholics. It's the new ACDC cover band y'all. And they're playing their asses off y'all. And you're just moved by the music and you're moved by the excitement. Here comes pastor Bob Swiggler on that rope." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 2", "startTime": "534.265", "endTime": "544.62", "body": "There's lady Jane over there in the corner. She's catching the holy spirit y'all. And that's that sucker is just spreading. It's lady Jane. And then it's Bill Wentworth from down the road." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 2", "startTime": "544.62", "endTime": "548.54004", "body": "And then it's this one and that one, and they're all catching the holy spirit. You're like, holy crap." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "548.54004", "endTime": "555.76495", "body": "This is amazing. Let me raise my hands. Well, once you swallow all" }, { "speaker": "Speaker 2", "startTime": "555.76495", "endTime": "557.605", "body": "of that, Lord have mercy." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "557.605", "endTime": "571.75", "body": "They can tell you just about anything and you're gonna eat it up. And you're gonna tell your Roman Ellis is like, my goodness. What have I stumbled into? I'm having a lot of fun with this. You can tell." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "572.07", "endTime": "581.805", "body": "And you tell your Roman Catholic friends, you know what? I had questions. And this is the part that you need to pay attention to because this is where I get serious. Yeah. I used to be a Roman Catholic." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "581.805", "endTime": "614.975", "body": "I hate that. When people who were Catholic their whole lives, maybe they went to mass intermittently, maybe they were nominal Catholics, but they were Catholic. And now they're saying when I was a Roman Catholic that just really gets under my skin. When I was a Roman Catholic, I had questions, and nobody had any answers. Problem number one, my friends, if you were if you are Catholic, but you converted to Protestantism, if that's your reason, you are lying to yourselves and you are lying to the people that you tell that to." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "614.975", "endTime": "637.36505", "body": "Let's be frank with each other. Because if you have my friends, if you have a question, a thousand percent I can answer it and I'm dumb. Which means there are plenty of much more qualified or much better qualified people in the church, your local parish priest. Even if even if your parish priest is a half wit, he's got all the answers you could possibly ask. Okay?" }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "637.36505", "endTime": "662.89996", "body": "It takes nine years of training to become a priest. Believe me, they have the answers to your questions. So, my friends, if you left the church because you had questions and nobody had answers, I'm sorry, that is just not the truth. And I can especially say that now, man, because I knew when I was a young, very young evangelist, my, let's say, mid teens, I knew that line sounded fishy. Now I'm a grown ass man with a lot of experience." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "662.89996", "endTime": "685.15", "body": "And I can tell you, everyone I've ever heard say I had questions that they didn't have answers, you dig deep enough and you don't even have to dig very deep. You find that they didn't have questions or they did have questions and never asked. Or some of you who used to be Catholic and now you're Protestant, you might say, Well, I was looking for God. That's good. I know Jesus Christ is God." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "685.15", "endTime": "716.05005", "body": "That's good. Just like I heard this line many times. Just like in in On the Road to Emmaus when Jesus opened the scriptures for the disciples, the Protestants opened the scriptures to me, and I realized things that I had never known before. Okay. So your first real look at the scriptures was through the lens of a Protestant a Protestant whose understanding of the scripture is limited because they don't they don't have sacred tradition." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "717.125", "endTime": "752.275", "body": "And this with all due respect to to my Protestant brothers and sisters out there, and everyone who knows me knows that I do not hate Protestants, but it gets under my skin how wrong you are. So with all due respect, okay, a Protestant is teaching you the Bible through the lens of Protestantism, which started five hundred years ago. That started, like, last week. They're practically just discovering Christianity. Do you know how frequently I've heard Protestants, either online or in real life, say, Hey y'all, did you know this about the Bible?" }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "752.275", "endTime": "762.8", "body": "Did you know this fact from church history? From Christian history? Yeah. People have been knowing that for two thousand years. You just now figured that one out?" }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "763.75995", "endTime": "780.265", "body": "So they're teaching you theology or they're teaching the Bible from a very, very narrow scope. Also, they're teaching you from the Bible through a prism that they invented. Bible alone, y'all. Bible alone. That is not Christianity." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "780.825", "endTime": "796.46", "body": "That is in the Bible. Christianity is not Bible alone. We had sacred tradition and apostolic teaching hundreds of years before there was a canonized Bible. What do you think the Christians were doing for hundreds of years before there was a Bible? Do you think we were guessing?" }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "797.18", "endTime": "821.23", "body": "How did we know how to be Christian before there was a Bible? Apostolic teaching, the teaching of the apostles, preserved and handed down generation to generation. Preserved, taught, and handed down generation generation to generation. So there are a number of reasons why you, as a Catholic, may have chosen to become Protestant. A number of reasons." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "821.23", "endTime": "843.84", "body": "And I'm not bragging as I say this, but I have heard them all. Been doing this a very long time. And I'm telling you from a position of authority and experience, you have been lied to, my friends. And the way that has been successful is basically this. You have been taken out of alignment with truth or from truth." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "844.0", "endTime": "855.495", "body": "You're not aligned with truth. The truth that the Protestants have you aligned toward is not the truth. That's not the truth. Well, how do you know? You're a Catholic, so of course you're saying that." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "855.495", "endTime": "866.92", "body": "Right. But I'm asserting exactly what Christianity was in the first century. Right? What does it mean? How do we know how to be Christian?" }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "867.08", "endTime": "892.94", "body": "Look at what the first century Christians were doing and second and third century Christians. Because they were taught by the apostles or directly in their orbit. Right? So we know that's what Christianity is. So what I'm asserting is what the early Christians were doing, including a massive number of authoritative Christian theologians who we call the early church fathers, who even the Protestants revere until they look too Catholic." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "892.94", "endTime": "896.46", "body": "And then the Protestants are Protestants are like, no. No. No. He's no good. He's no good." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "896.86", "endTime": "929.0", "body": "So when I assert a truth that's different from what the Protestants are telling you, understand this. They're asserting something from a position of narrow and limited scope. They're 500 years old. They're asserting a position contrary to what the early church taught, held, practiced, asserted, did. And if you're saying, well, but at a Protestant church, I really feel the presence of God, well, how hard were you trying as a Catholic?" }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "929.4", "endTime": "960.5", "body": "I can I can tell you this? It's very easy to feel the presence of God at an ACDC concert too because it gets your emotions going, the excitement of the crowd kicks in, or fill in who some other exciting group or artist that you like. The excitement of the crowd kicks in, the excitement of the moment, the spectacle kicks in, and you feel chills and thrills and shivers all up and down your spine. Well, that's not the presence of God. That's an emotional and physiological response to what you're experiencing there." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "962.16504", "endTime": "988.77", "body": "But, okay, that aside, back to the question: How hard were you trying as a Catholic? Do you understand that at the Mass you are literally in the presence of God? He's there in the tabernacle. He is represented, re presented at the consecration of the Holy Eucharist, which Christians have been doing for two thousand years even in the first century. You even see echoes of it in the Scripture." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 3", "startTime": "988.895", "endTime": "990.415", "body": "Bible, Bible, Bible, y'all." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "990.415", "endTime": "1012.32", "body": "Well, the Holy Eucharist and what we teach about the Holy Eucharist is reflected all over the New Testament. So you are truly in the presence of God when you're at a Catholic Mass. Did you not feel him? Where does it say in the Bible that you're supposed to feel God's presence? Where where does it say that in the Bible?" }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1013.12", "endTime": "1021.565", "body": "Sometimes you do feel God's presence. Sometimes there's this abiding peace, and so on and so on and so on. I'm not gonna get into all that. Shoot. I forgot to hit record." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1022.52496", "endTime": "1033.33", "body": "Yeah. Sometimes you get that. But that's not normal. That's a bonus. And sometimes God will throw you that bonus to keep to keep you coming along." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1033.65", "endTime": "1054.8749", "body": "But that's not normal. Because it really isn't Christian necessarily to feel the presence of God. It is the Christian way to be present with God. And you'll know the difference when you're practicing it. Is it excitement and chills and thrills up and down your spine?" }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1055.115", "endTime": "1074.06", "body": "Not usually. Sometimes the Holy Spirit will bring you there, but not usually. But it is an abiding peace. It is the sense, the detection of his presence that you will know for sure in your heart that words can't express. So that's the end of my warning." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1074.875", "endTime": "1096.8301", "body": "To those of you who were, quote unquote, were Catholic and became Protestant, you were lied to because you were taken out of alignment with the truth. Alignment with the truth is what did Jesus and the apostles teach? And you see what they taught by the historical record. Okay? By the historical record, it's not even a theological claim." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1096.8301", "endTime": "1114.725", "body": "By the historical record you can see that there was a unified Christianity, and they were doing things that Catholics do today. That's alignment with the truth. Who's the truth? Jesus is the truth. Jesus taught the apostles, the apostles taught the church, and the apostles taught it to their successors who handed it down and so on." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1114.725", "endTime": "1136.065", "body": "So that's alignment with the truth. When your alignment is toward the Reformation, my friend, you're not aligned with the truth. You're not making you're not passing judgments on anything. You're not making assessments of anything from the perspective of truth because you're misaligned away from the truth. You're aligned with an error." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1137.185", "endTime": "1155.87", "body": "And so the result of that is anything that doesn't fall within that limited scope, error, you're going to think is wrong. It's an alternate reality. But you're the one who's got it wrong. And so I beg you to please reconsider. There's phase one for you." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1156.615", "endTime": "1163.335", "body": "Phase one for your nerves. Here comes phase two. Yeah. Now we have to talk about the Catholics. I got done picking on the Protestants." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1163.335", "endTime": "1169.255", "body": "Now it's time to pick on the Catholics, baby. Here we go. Oh, man. I'm always making so many friends in this business. It's ridiculous." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1169.255", "endTime": "1182.22", "body": "You should see some of the comments I get. Folks, I'm not trying to tick people off. I'm not trying to offend anyone. All I'm trying to do is tell you the truth, and what you do with it is up to you. Okay?" }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1182.22", "endTime": "1190.6951", "body": "But you don't have to hurl stones at me. You really don't. I feel like Saint Stephen, man. I have those Saint Stephen moments all the time. Okay." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1190.6951", "endTime": "1213.005", "body": "First, let me tell you the backstory why I'm even bringing this up at all. I recently over at the Forge, I wrote an article. Was it an article? I guess that was more of a reaction piece. By the way, theforge.fm is is, the elder brother of firebranded.fm." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1213.005", "endTime": "1226.87", "body": "Fire Branded is technically under the Forge's umbrella. But operationally, I do them separate because it's a long story. Okay? The forge.fm is mostly editorial. Firebranded.fm is podcast heavy." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1226.87", "endTime": "1238.385", "body": "There's articles there too. Great articles, but it's podcast heavy. The forge.fm is editorial heavy. It's Catholic commentary at the point of impact. Catholic commentary that hits theforge.fm." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1238.385", "endTime": "1260.94", "body": "You gotta check it out if you don't wanna go to hell. So I dropped an article here, which was a reaction to something I saw on LifeSite News. And if you just give me a moment, folks, it's live, so I guess I forgot to prepare this. But if you just give me a moment, I'm gonna show this to you. I think." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1262.78", "endTime": "1273.9749", "body": "Oh my god. It's a freaking miracle. Okay. How do you know that you've got TJ Hanks through the microphone? He uses words like freaking." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1273.975", "endTime": "1281.815", "body": "Oh my god. It's a freaking miracle. Okay. Clown mess? Liesight news strikes again." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1281.815", "endTime": "1294.36", "body": "I'm not going to read it to you. Okay? If you go over to theforge.fm, you will find this. If you I guess I'll also drop a link to it in this episode's on demand page or this episode's description if you're finding it on Spotify, etcetera. Let's move on." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1295.2151", "endTime": "1309.62", "body": "I'm gonna go through this very, very quickly because all this is is the backstory. Okay? So this was a face it was a social media post that went viral, of course, because it's sensationalistic. Alright? It's a bunch of clowns." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1309.62", "endTime": "1321.1399", "body": "Are obviously I mean, it's fairly obvious to me that it's a Catholic church. Mainly, you have a cross there. There might be a a corpus here. It's a little hard to see for me. It's probably near impossible for you to see." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1321.1399", "endTime": "1335.485", "body": "There might that might be a small corpus, and this looks like icons of saints. So this to me looks Catholic, the cross. Doesn't look Protestant. It looks Catholic. And then, of course, we've got a statue in the background." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1336.7", "endTime": "1340.94", "body": "We've got this statue in the background. Dead giveaway. Right? Okay. It's a Catholic church." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1341.5", "endTime": "1350.46", "body": "Alright. That was the first thing that I wanted to know about. First of all, is this Protestant? Is this evangelical? Is this Anglican or what?" }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1350.46", "endTime": "1366.895", "body": "It's it's Catholic. Okay? So bunch of clowns in a Catholic church, what is pretty apparently a Catholic church. And what do we see in the caption here? Literal clown liturgy takes place at Catholics' Day in Germany." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1369.9", "endTime": "1386.455", "body": "Folks, I want you to tell me. You might know about this story already. You might have read my article already. But what do you think clown liturgy signals? Do you remember we talked about signals signal and noise?" }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1386.855", "endTime": "1409.795", "body": "And sometimes signaling is signaling noise that's presenting itself as the truth. Sometimes signal isn't signaling truth. Sometimes it's signaling noise. What does this signal? I'm just gonna pause for just a moment to give people, just a few seconds to chime in to see if they know immediately." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1409.795", "endTime": "1437.335", "body": "Hello to Lou Geed joining me there on, The Forge. That's crazy. Usually, I think, Lou Geed is hitting me up over there at YouTube, which I've not been paying attention to today. Yes, Marek. That is a very short and handy thing." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1437.335", "endTime": "1446.6951", "body": "And I had questions and, you know, nobody had answers. I had questions. Okay. I had questions about, you know, what why is Saint Paul such a big limp? Saint Paul seems like a big limp." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1446.6951", "endTime": "1456.52", "body": "Why is that? Nobody had answers. Nobody. I had question, you know, why why does Jesus walk around with sandals like a lip? Like a lip from, you know, big lip steak, California." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1456.52", "endTime": "1464.9199", "body": "Why did he why is he walking around like that? Nobody had answers for me. So I said, you know, I'm leaving the Catholic church. Give me a freaking break. Alright." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1464.9199", "endTime": "1483.37", "body": "So there's a lot of action going on over here at Facebook. By the way, you have to follow the show on Facebook, Fire Branded FM on Facebook, and I just started. Check this out. This is really cool. I just started a new Facebook group called not the forge." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1483.37", "endTime": "1501.355", "body": "It's called the foundry. If you go to the Facebook page for the show, Fire Branded FM, the post about the Foundry, the new Facebook group, it's pinned to the top. You can't miss it. Alright? You should check that out because that's basically like apologetics training." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1501.355", "endTime": "1534.975", "body": "It's deeper dives into the Catholic faith, questions and answers and stuff, stuff that you might know or you might not, deeper dives into the church fathers, things like this. Okay? It's not just teaching it it really isn't intended to teach you how to defend the faith, but that's a fruit. That's the fruit of what it will do. It's really designed to contextualize mysterious things about Catholicism, deeper things about Catholicism that you may not have known, sources, references, theology, stuff like that, and it all of it easy to comprehend." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1534.975", "endTime": "1571.73", "body": "Believe me. I'm not gonna theologize you. So the result is with this knowledge, you will be able to defend the faith, but really what I'm after is to help you to have the materials and the methodology to think clean, to or to align you correctly to the truth, to think clean, to think strong, to be ninjas of thought, not just apologists. Apologists, that's easy. So check out the Facebook page, Fire Branded FM, and consider becoming a member of the new Facebook group, The Foundry." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1572.93", "endTime": "1588.865", "body": "Alright. So does anybody know the answer? What does that immediately signal? They're chatting it up over there on Instagram too. I I wish I had the ability to monitor all three chats, man, but I really don't." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1588.865", "endTime": "1598.2198", "body": "I'm so sorry. Because they're really chatting it up over there at Instagram. Instagram is you're on fire today, man. I can't believe nobody knows this. No nobody can figure it out." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1599.1799", "endTime": "1603.34", "body": "Was TJ Haynes wrong on this one? No. Never. I'm never wrong. Alright." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1603.34", "endTime": "1618.845", "body": "So let's get back to it. What does clown liturgy signal, folks? You really don't think that signals clown mass? I mean I mean this could be written in Chinese or German. You you almost don't even need this." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1618.98", "endTime": "1634.095", "body": "So when you see clown liturgy, it signals a clown mass, especially when you pair it with the with the visual. You think to yourself, oh my god. It's another one of those damn clown masses. I'll get this back on the screen now. But the truth is it was not a clown mass." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1634.095", "endTime": "1647.4551", "body": "Now I wanna be really clear on something too. I am not in favor of what we see. I'm not in favor of what took place in Germany there. Germany is a crazy place. They had a BDSM booth at a Catholic event too." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1647.83", "endTime": "1658.3899", "body": "And it wasn't the first time the BDSM group was at that Catholic event. I think they were there seven prior years too. Every year they're there. Okay? So Germany is a bit of a crazy place." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1658.63", "endTime": "1678.1299", "body": "I am not in favor of what we saw there going on in Joymente. I don't support it, but the fact is it wasn't a clown mass. Lysight News sort of frames this as a clown mass right at the top. Folks, they call it a literal clown liturgy for a reason. Okay?" }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1678.21", "endTime": "1691.09", "body": "They don't say, I don't know, offensive prayer service takes place in Germany. The the the thing is this was not a mass. The Germans call it a paraliturgy, but it wasn't even a paraliturgy. Okay? It does not fit the bill for a paraliturgy." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1691.09", "endTime": "1701.4249", "body": "There are too many substitutions. It was too many crazy things going on. It's not a paraliturgy. At most, you could call it a reading of some some bible readings. Okay." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1701.4249", "endTime": "1711.8499", "body": "It was some bible readings. Really, and that's it. There was intersessions, but it wasn't even intersessions. It was reactions to news headlines. That's what I mean by substitutions." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1712.1699", "endTime": "1723.465", "body": "This was not a liturgy of any kind. It was not a paraliturgy, and it was not the a sacred liturgy, the mass. Liesite news rendered that way anyway. Okay. Fine." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1723.5449", "endTime": "1740.03", "body": "If you wanna read that article and get the backstory, what was that event exactly, I I did some pretty careful fact checking, fairly thorough. I would say it was fairly thorough. It's at theforge.fm. I will drop a link to it on this episode's on demand page. Okay?" }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1740.03", "endTime": "1756.3749", "body": "Enough said about that. You would think a Catholic's response to that apart from okay. Fine. You're outraged over what over overseeing clowns doing anything religious in a church. I'm right there with you." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1756.615", "endTime": "1778.495", "body": "That's totally okay. But you would think a Catholic's next reaction would be, yeah, why did if this is newsworthy enough, why did LifeSci News have to lie to me and make me think that it was a clown mass? Do you know how I got clued on to that, by the way? Because I put something on Facebook, Fire Branded FM on Facebook. I don't remember what it was." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1778.655", "endTime": "1812.6249", "body": "It was something about I don't remember what it was. But I had a lot of opposition to that post, not really a shock. And the way people were opposing it was telling me, I'm paraphrasing, look at the crazy clown mass of November of Vatican two. And I saw that sucker three or four times from three or four people across two different posts telling me crazy clown mass of of Vatican two, or this is Novus Ordo looks to me, or here's another clown and so on. So people really received this as clown mass." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1814.065", "endTime": "1832.8", "body": "So you would think when when you're told what the truth of the event was, which by their reporting, I did read their article too. Let me not get into all that. You would think a Catholic's next reaction would be, why did LifeSide News have to bamboozle me like that? Nope. Do you know what their next reaction was?" }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1833.8151", "endTime": "1853.74", "body": "Why is TJ Haynes telling us this? This is an awful clown, whatever it is. And and why is TJ Haynes defending it when I was very clear that I wasn't defending it? People threw stones at me because I was exposing LiveSite News as deception as I saw it in that post. Deception, in my opinion, in their reporting." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1853.74", "endTime": "1872.245", "body": "Their reporting had facts, but the facts didn't line up to paint the story of the full truth. This is something that I believe that they do at Lifesite News on the regular. And this is not about LifeSite News. The point I'm trying to make is people took issue with me for exposing LifeSite News. You would think they would take issue with LifeSite News for lying to them." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1872.245", "endTime": "1890.9349", "body": "Nope. Do you know why? You know, just before I came on the air today, I had a comment on Instagram, and the person was civil. He was not being mean or anything. So if you're watching this, I'm saying this respectfully, and I'm and I'm not naming names." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1891.415", "endTime": "1911.2999", "body": "But the person said that the novus or I I I'm I'm paraphrasing just a little. The novus ordo basically removed all mystery from the mass. I'm like, what are you talking about? The the mass, even in the in the the ordinary form, is loaded with mystery. Or the novus ordo mass is not reverend." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1911.2999", "endTime": "1926.915", "body": "We've removed all reverence. Well, reverence is something you bring to the mass. The Mass doesn't do reverence. If the Mass is licit, the Mass is reverent. Because it's the offering of Jesus Christ represented on the altar at the consecration of the Holy Eucharist." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1926.915", "endTime": "1950.715", "body": "That's what makes it reverent. Can you make the mass more reverent than Jesus Christ? So this is an example, it's just an example, of how Catholics are misaligned. They have no alignment with the truth or toward the truth. Because they have been led in this I hear I hear the reverence, reverence, reverence thing all the time." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1951.0349", "endTime": "1979.7949", "body": "Okay? Catholics have been made to believe that reverence is something the Mass does and we receive. Or reverence is something the Mass doesn't God receives. But reverence is not what the what makes the Mass reverent is that it's a illicit Mass, A gift from the church to God where Jesus Christ is represented at the altar. That's what makes it reverent." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "1980.275", "endTime": "2003.5349", "body": "But they've been led to believe that reverence is something that is woven into the mass. Well, if if it's valid form and substance, if it's a valid Roman Rite mass and it's, you know, the form is as it's supposed to be, then it is reverend. And that's the extent to which reverence reverence is woven into the liturgy. But they think, no, you have to have nicer music. That makes it more reverend." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2004.495", "endTime": "2020.47", "body": "Well, nicer according to who? You? What makes you the judge? Well, because if it's if it's pipe organs and it's traditional hymns, then it's more reverent than a piano and contemporary hymns. Why?" }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2020.95", "endTime": "2033.625", "body": "Why is that more reverent? If look. I love a pipe organ. I prefer a pipe organ to a piano, but you can make beautiful music with a piano. You can have beautiful contemporary hymns." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2033.625", "endTime": "2041.99", "body": "Of course you can. What makes it more reverent that it's let me ask you this. What makes it more reverent that it's in Latin? If you're doing I love chant. Don't get me wrong." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2041.99", "endTime": "2062.305", "body": "I love chant. But the point I'm trying to make is we have this idea that reverence is something we weave into the reverence is something a liturgist or a mass planner weaves into the mass. That is not true. That's a misalignment with truth. And once people are misaligned, you can lead them anywhere." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2063.825", "endTime": "2076.25", "body": "Look at this irreverent priest. He wore sneakers under his vestments. I don't like sneakers. I don't even want altar servers wearing sneakers. You're not gonna get an argument from me, but that has nothing to do with reverence." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2076.41", "endTime": "2098.88", "body": "Maybe he's wearing sneakers because he has a lot of, issues with his, what do call it, orthopedic issues, and he can't wear shoes. You don't know. Or maybe he had to just you get the point? So when you're misaligned, when you have a misalignment from truth, you can be led anywhere. Anything is irreverent." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2099.1199", "endTime": "2117.655", "body": "The mass is a bastardization of Roman right. I was fielding some comments from somebody on YouTube who seems sincere. Okay? They seem sincere to me, but they're quoting people. First of all, the the quotes are incorrect." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2118.215", "endTime": "2144.8452", "body": "The people being quoted did not say the things they're he's saying that they said against the Roman Rite, against the New Liturgy. And you would think after three corrections, the person would say, maybe I need to go back to the drawing board and reconsider my thoughts. You would think after three corrections, that would happen. You wouldn't expect a fourth response with a fourth error. Misalignment from truth." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2145.165", "endTime": "2168.3752", "body": "Just like how Catholics will become Protestants swear to God literally that the Catholics have it wrong because after all, I've been told, I've been taught that everything has to be in the Bible, word for it, explicit, and so on and so on. Because they are so convinced that that's reality, it doesn't matter if you dig up church. Folks, I have dug up church fathers. Who was it? Justin Martyr?" }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2168.455", "endTime": "2194.745", "body": "It's a pretty well known quote, but I've used several quotes from the same pieces from the same piece by Justin Martyr talking about the Eucharist. And if you look at what he writes about the Eucharist, you would think somebody in the church wrote it last week. Do you know how many Protestants, many of them former Catholics, look at that and say, Nope, it's not in the Bible. This is like January. It's not in the Bible." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2194.8252", "endTime": "2205.865", "body": "But this this is an authoritative Christian. He definitely received this authoritatively from the apostolic lineage. This is what Christianity is. Nope. It's not in the Bible." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2205.865", "endTime": "2217.51", "body": "When you are misaligned from the truth, you are living in an alternate reality. So consider this your matrix moment. I would make who is it? Neo and who is the other guy? Morpheus." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2217.51", "endTime": "2228.8752", "body": "I would make a great Morpheus, by the way. I just have to say. I'd make a better Morpheus than I would a Neo. You know? Is it true that the nervous orbital mass isn't the real mass?" }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2229.115", "endTime": "2237.675", "body": "No, Neo. That is your stupidity talking. But I'm here to tell you the truth. You see, wouldn't I make a great a great Morpheus? Holy cow." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2238.18", "endTime": "2250.3398", "body": "Listen. If you are doing a Catholic version of the matrix and you are and you are casting, I'm throwing my name in the hat. I wanna play Morpheus. Okay? I don't do kung fu, but I was a very good boxer." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2250.3398", "endTime": "2264.835", "body": "So maybe Morpheus in your production can teach neo boxing. That would be fun. Thank you very much. So consider this your matrix moment. If you are forget about the Protestants now who used to be Catholic." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2264.835", "endTime": "2300.9", "body": "I'm just talking to the Catholics. If you're a Catholic, anyone, on the left, on the right, and the center, it doesn't matter, you always have to ask yourself, am I really interested in the truth? Is it is it possible that sometimes someone is telling me something that is true and I actually have it wrong? Now that computer crashing bit really screwed me up, but I did have a couple of things from the church fathers. But this is going kind of long, so I will do this a couple of quotes from the church fathers and the catechesis." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2300.9", "endTime": "2315.5051", "body": "The catechesis will be mine, synthesized from these quotes from from three church fathers. I think I had Augustine, John Chrysostom, and, Basil the Great. I did. I'm just gonna read you a couple of things. Okay?" }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2315.5852", "endTime": "2326.58", "body": "Because I don't really have time to go through this whole thing. These shows get way too long, and they're a pain to edit. So give me a second as I find these damn notes. Oh, man. That's gonna be a rough one." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2332.1", "endTime": "2354.105", "body": "Oh, god. Okay. I had, like, 12 Microsoft Word documents open. And now you know how sometimes on I don't know if what your computer situation is like, but on a Mac and I think some Windows too. When you reopen a a a program after a crash, it'll bring up the last things that you had opened." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2354.89", "endTime": "2365.61", "body": "Right? Only three last things you had opened popped up, but I know I had way more than three. I was gonna show you all of these windows for all my Word documents. Only three popped up. That's not good." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2365.85", "endTime": "2386.39", "body": "Hopefully, the others were saved, and I just kept them open. I'll give you some Saint Augustine catechesis, and I'm gonna tell you I'll tell you the quote, and then I'll tell you the catechesis from my notes. Okay. Actually, before I do that, let's have a little fun. Let's go to the chat see see who's saying what, which I haven't checked in with the chat yet." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2386.39", "endTime": "2396.135", "body": "Hello to Facebookers. Thank you very much for joining me today. I'm sorry about that crash. I feel awful about that. Let's go go to the tube." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2396.135", "endTime": "2415.15", "body": "Hello to those of you catching me on YouTube. A lot of folks there who are chatting it up. Catholic g thirty three k was chatting it up on Facebook. Thank you very much for doing so. Look how churches make whole sermons on why not on why not to be Catholic because they're afraid of the truth." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2415.39", "endTime": "2432.9949", "body": "I believe that to be true. I believe there are Protestants, many of them, not all of them, but many of them who deep down, they know the Catholic church is the true church. I really believe that. I really believe many of them do believe that. Maddock says, where is the holy trinity in the bible?" }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2433.155", "endTime": "2460.175", "body": "The bible argument is for the IQ challenged. You know, and that's a good example. You know, the holy trinity is supportable in the bible. You can absolutely make an argument for the the classical teaching of the trinity on the trinity in the Bible text. But everything that we have known about the Trinity, even from the early church, is not explicitly in the Bible." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2460.415", "endTime": "2473.77", "body": "I'll give you an example, Protestants. And and I think this is something that Protestants and Catholics believe in common. And Protestants, you have the Catholic church to thank for that. The Holy Trinity, father, son, and holy spirit, they're co equals. Okay?" }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2473.8499", "endTime": "2486.045", "body": "It would be wrong to say the father is beneath I'm sorry. The son is beneath the father, and the holy spirit is their pet. The holy spirit is the less powerful of the trinity. That would be incorrect. They are equal." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2486.125", "endTime": "2500.79", "body": "That one definitely is one example. So there's there there are things in the bible that are not explicit, but they come from apostolic teaching. They're supported in the bible. The dual nature of Jesus Christ is true god and true man. Not fifty fifty, eighty twenty, a 100%." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2500.79", "endTime": "2507.9949", "body": "He's a 100% and a 100%. He's true god and true man. That is not explicit in the Bible. That is apostolic teaching. You're welcome, Protestants." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 3", "startTime": "2508.4749", "endTime": "2509.9949", "body": "Bible, Bible, Bible. And I've" }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2509.9949", "endTime": "2523.28", "body": "made this argument before. Arianism is a heresy that says Jesus was just an exalted creature. He was not true God and true man. That is a heresy. That heresy is supported in the Bible." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2523.76", "endTime": "2538.855", "body": "That's where the Arians got it from. The Arian heresy is based on a theology entirely backed by the Bible. It's wrong though, isn't it? It's wrong. Bible alone, y'all." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2538.855", "endTime": "2557.8801", "body": "Bible alone. How do we know that it's a heresy? Because apostolic teaching holds that Jesus Christ is true God and true man. You're welcome, Protestants. Mounds of his James said, I'm tired of TLM zealots saying the Novus Ordo is is not reverend." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2558.04", "endTime": "2572.905", "body": "Says, I'm tired of TLM zealots saying the Novus Ordo is not is not reverend. I am so fed up too with this reverend crap. Because, Trads, I'm not angry. I'm not saying this to hurt you or to start a fight. What I'm telling you is this." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2573.625", "endTime": "2587.27", "body": "Your definition of reverence is not traditional Catholicism. It is novelty. Do you understand? It's novelty. It is not traditional Catholicism." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2587.9102", "endTime": "2602.935", "body": "So why do you keep saying that? Obviously, reverence is important. I don't like people acting stupid at mass. You know, I don't like you you get the idea. Where you are in reverence is where I am in terms of how I value it." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2603.71", "endTime": "2624.085", "body": "Okay? But you guys take it to another level. I I could go on for two hours as to why I think you got there, what exactly misaligned you, but don't have that kind of time. But the way you're thinking about reverence is not traditional Catholicism. It's a novelty." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2624.1648", "endTime": "2640.78", "body": "I got some bad news for you. Holy Ghost is novelty. That is not traditional Catholicism. Holy Spirit is. If you wanna get really down and dirty, the Douay Rheim, not traditional." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2641.26", "endTime": "2651.285", "body": "Not traditionalism. It's novelty. I know that's a stretch. I'm I'm and I'm stretching on purpose just to kinda razz you a little bit. It's not novelty." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2651.285", "endTime": "2661.1301", "body": "It is very old. But to say this is the traditional bible and it's the more reverend translation? No. It isn't. Oh, no." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2661.1301", "endTime": "2672.57", "body": "It absolutely is not. There's nothing traditional about it. I have a duerem. I read it or I have read it. That was the first bible I had, the first bible I read from, the first bible I studied from, and so on." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2672.57", "endTime": "2689.75", "body": "Okay? So value it, and I still own it, still value it, but that is not a traditional bible. You guys have to be careful of the arguments you make because you're not doing yourselves any favors. And this reverence reverence reverence reverence thing is one of the things that is not doing you any favors. It's only making you look bad." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2689.99", "endTime": "2706.2751", "body": "And I'll tell you why people cast out the reverence thing. Well, it's like this. You shouldn't do x or y or z because it's a sin against God. Well, maybe it's not a sin against God. You shouldn't eat vanilla ice cream on Sunday." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2706.595", "endTime": "2725.52", "body": "What about God? Well, when you bring God into it, now it becomes real serious. Right? When you say, you dare to eat that sin dessert? But when you use those words, those words are very grave." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2725.5999", "endTime": "2737.2551", "body": "Right? It changes the conversation. It becomes much more serious. All due respect, trans. A lot of you don't know what you're talking about." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2737.2551", "endTime": "2750.71", "body": "I mean, it really, really comes through. You probably have probably it's not your fault. Very likely it's not your fault. This is a con that was played against you, and you're just repeating it. Okay?" }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2751.03", "endTime": "2765.7651", "body": "But there are I'm not talking about the whole of your Catholicism. I'm not saying all of that is wrong. I'm not saying that. But there are things layered onto you as a traditionalist that it comes through very clearly. You don't know what you're talking about." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2768.33", "endTime": "2796.4602", "body": "But because you have limited tools in your toolbox, because you don't know what you're talking about, you guys go to the go tos. Reverence, reverence, reverence, reverence. The Novosorto church, the Novosorto church, the Novosorto you have a couple of tools in your toolbox, and those are your go tos because they're the only ones you have, but they're good ones because they sound really grave. Reverence, reverence, reverence, reverence. It's not a good tool." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2796.4602", "endTime": "2815.735", "body": "It sounds good, but I'm here to tell you from from a lot of experience, it is not a good tool. You're not doing yourselves any favors. But that's why they throw out talking points like that a lot. I it's because they have a limited set of tools in their toolbox. I am not saying, traditionalists, that reverence is not important." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2816.135", "endTime": "2841.285", "body": "I am not saying that your love for reverence is stupid or errant. I am not saying that. I do not believe that it's stupid or errant. All I'm saying is you have brought it to a new level that even the church fathers would never recognize. So this this is me being Morpheus trying to realign you with truth, trying to pull you out of your alternate reality." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2841.685", "endTime": "2859.5498", "body": "I am telling you now, reverence, yes, is important, but you have taken it into a completely different theological lane that the church fathers themselves would not recognize. And that's just the truth. Let me get to this freaking quote. Actually, no. I I think that's enough of a show." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2859.5498", "endTime": "2873.5552", "body": "Let me start bringing this to a close. I will tell you this quote, though, just the quote, not the catechesis. It's just this is just getting too long. Okay? So the quote is oh, I used three or four different quotes from Augustine." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2873.715", "endTime": "2891.52", "body": "Alright. Let me give you the abstract of the the catechesis. Okay? And this is just Augustine's bit. But I will include this in a post show note at firebranded.fm because there's no time I was gonna make this part of of the podcast, but there's just no time." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2892.135", "endTime": "2906.695", "body": "So I'll reconfigure this into, like, a simple article. It won't be really an article. It'll be mostly, like, segments of thoughts and catechesis. Okay. So it's easier for me to put together, and it's also easier for you to take in." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2906.695", "endTime": "2922.845", "body": "Alright? Instead of being like a long and sophisticated article. So this will be dropped as a post show note at firebranded.fm. If you're subscribed to firebranded.fm, this is gonna be sent right to your inbox. I'll drop a link to it in this episode's on demand page." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2923.085", "endTime": "2938.22", "body": "It's a McGlutton for punishment. Alright. The the abstract the abstract of the catechesis of Saint Augustine. Every lie is a wound against the soul and an offense against God. It's an offense against so it's a wound to the soul." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2938.22", "endTime": "2949.34", "body": "It's a spiritual wound, and it's an offense against God. Every lie, every distortion. Intentional. Intentional lie or distortion. It's a sin against God because God is the truth himself." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2949.905", "endTime": "2954.865", "body": "It's his nature. It's his character. It's his purse. It's who he is. Okay?" }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2954.865", "endTime": "2975.04", "body": "Truth himself. So it's a sin against God, a lie or a distortion willfully, put forward. It's a spiritual wound against others. It's a spiritual wound against others because a lie is a statement at variance with the mind. A lie is a statement at variance with the mind." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2975.04", "endTime": "2988.795", "body": "The mind is not your brain. The intellect is a spiritual facility. Okay? The mind seeks truth naturally. And to lie or to deceive is a variance with the mind." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "2989.7798", "endTime": "3022.86", "body": "It deprives the mind what it seeks, and it conditions it to find it somewhere else. Little theological or too philosophical, let me make it real for you. As I said earlier, there are Catholics who no matter what you put in front of them, they're going to believe what they want to believe. If they say reverence, reverence, reverence, and you show them, you build an argument from the Bible, from the early church fathers, from the saints, which I have done this here on firebranded.fm and at theforged.fm articles and such. I have done this." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "3023.02", "endTime": "3043.0203", "body": "Here is the material from the saints. They are incapable of receiving it. Why? Because outraged journalism in independent so called Catholic media has reconditioned their minds to such a thorough extent that they cannot receive the truth when it's given to them. Do you understand that?" }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "3043.26", "endTime": "3064.5151", "body": "Do you understand that ingesting, consuming outraged journalism, whether it's liesight news or anywhere else that you find outraged journalism, sometimes it's podcasters, sometimes it's not just lay people either. Okay? Wherever you consume that, understand this. You are causing harm, spiritual harm to yourself. It's not irreversible." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "3064.835", "endTime": "3083.73", "body": "But take it from me, been doing this a very, very long time. It's very, very hard to fix. Very, very hard to fix. Why? Because when you've been deceived by a lie, or when you've been deceived, let's put it that way, told a lie, deceived, whatever, it in a sense puts you in an alternate reality." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "3083.73", "endTime": "3102.71", "body": "So let me read this again. Every lie is a wound to the soul, and it's it's an offense as and it's also an offense against God. It's an offense against God, and by lie, we're including distortions and and so on. Okay? Deception and distortions." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "3102.71", "endTime": "3132.59", "body": "It's a lie it's a sin against God because God is the truth itself. He's the truth himself. It's a sin against the soul because it deprives the mind of what it has a natural right to and what it naturally seeks. And it in doing so, it places the mind in a sort of alternate reality to where now in greater and greater ways, it's less capable of receiving the truth that it naturally seeks because it's led to believe that it already has it. Let me start bringing this to a close." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "3133.9502", "endTime": "3158.36", "body": "I am very seriously considering not doing livestreams anymore. And maybe even I'll be honest with you. Actually, let me let me just say this. I was posting a lot of stuff past couple of weeks, short form stuff, clips and stuff, new live streams, you know, if I did a Fire Branded Brief and things like this. And this stuff is just not taking off for me on YouTube, man." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "3158.36", "endTime": "3166.12", "body": "I got to tell you the truth. Give you one example. This show I did, it was a truly was a Fire Branded Brief. It was only thirty five minutes. That was brief." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "3166.475", "endTime": "3193.015", "body": "Why Catholics Quit After Confirmation? I'm sorry. The hours of work it took to put that together, do it, and edit it is worth more to me than 90 views when 60% of them didn't even watch more than a minute. So I'm very seriously seriously considering doing lives less frequently. I want to be present for you guys who value the lives, Right?" }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "3193.015", "endTime": "3220.655", "body": "Who like asking questions, who like the fellowship. That's why I do lives is to be present and to produce a sort of environment for fellowship between you and the other chatters, the other people who are live. So I wanna do these on occasion, but I don't think I'm gonna do these every week anymore. What I may do is more stuff that's audio only and do it more frequently. I may do that, but keep an eye out on the face place." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "3220.655", "endTime": "3237.94", "body": "Fire Branded FM on Facebook and Real TJ Hanes everywhere else on socials. This has been Fire Branded. I have been TJ Hanes. Follow me everywhere on socials at Real TJ Hanes. Tap like, tap subscribe, help me out because the, algorithm show ain't doing that." }, { "speaker": "Speaker 1", "startTime": "3237.94", "endTime": "3244.74", "body": "God bless you, ladies and gentlemen, and god be with you all. Bye bye. This is a rough show, man. It was rough." } ] }