So how much should you actually be making in roofing sales now, whether
you're brand new at this, or considering your career in roofing sales or whether
you're a seasoned sales veteran, 1, 2, 3 in 10 years under your belt.
And you're just kind of wondering where should this really be shaken out for
me and how do I compare with others?
That is exactly what I'm gonna be getting into in today's video.
But even that last thing I just said about how do I compare to others?
That's the first thing, there's our ground rule for this video.
I want you to throw that out the window, cuz there's some great
things happening in our industry.
People coming together.
Bringing integrity honor back to roofing to try to drown out the scumbag
that have given all of us a bad name.
And with that, there's been an emergence of activity online and,
and Facebook groups and discussions.
And I see a lot of chat around there, which by the way, is
all like, really good stuff.
But then I know when people are celebrating wins.
We start sizing ourselves up and wondering, and, and it FA paints
this false sense of reality.
Everybody's doing all these amazing things.
And I sit here and suck and that's not the case.
Now.
Roofing sales is personal development in disguise.
Did you hear what I just said?
Write that one down.
Roofing sales is personal development in disguise.
I'll be the first to tell you I don't really care much about roofs.
In fact, I really don't care about roofs at all.
I'm not passionate about it.
What I'm passionate about is this industry and the opportunity it
presents for us to jump in and literally have a game of personal development
than we get better at communication.
It sales at organization at discipline at time management at
communication, conflict resolution, all of these different categories.
When we get better.
We end up serving more customers, landing more sales in making more money.
So you have to embrace the journey.
You have to embrace the suck as the endurance athletes say and
say, Hey, listen, I'm in this to just get better each and every
day, we all come in at different places with different backgrounds.
Someone might earn twice what you did in their first year, but it
doesn't matter cuz it's not you.
So all I want you to focus on is you and how do you move
the needle each and every day?
Getting better now that we have the disclaimer aside, shall we jump.
All right, let's do it first.
I just wanna say, uh, welcome or welcome back if you're new here.
My name is Adam.
Bessman the roof strategist and everything that I do here on this YouTube channel,
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Let's get to it.
How much should you be making now?
Truthfully, I believe that anyone who's a good fit or a decent fit in roofing sales
should earn a minimum of $75,000 a year.
Now there are people who don't, there's people who struggle by the way.
There's a gentleman, Caleb who had mentioned on the channel a few times,
Caleb, I know you're a tentative man.
And I just wanna say, appreciate you.
If you see this, you wanna drop a comment, do it, but your story
was really inspiring to me, Caleb.
And the reason is.
Caleb struggled for a number of months, he got denied, denied, denied.
Then he got a streak where he made some sales and then they would get denied
cuz they were stormed and he didn't make, it was just this roller coaster.
And like every door was like, boom slammed in his face, slammed in his face.
And it's like four or five months.
If my memory serves me and he was relentless.
And if it weren't for sticking through and being persistent, he, he would've quit.
Right.
But he didn't and he ended.
Three months after turning 21, making his first six figures
his first year in the business.
It it's, it's, it's wild, what can happen.
And unfortunately, many people quit too soon.
So the reason I say this is 75,000, I think would be a
first year reasonable goal.
All right.
Now, realistically, a hundred K to one 50 is also.
Realistic, I'm gonna call first year.
That would be on the low end and a hundred to 150 would be on the
mid mid-range end above that.
You're gonna see.
And I have worked with some folks who've done up to about 300,000 in
their first year, and this is what I'll put on the high end, by the way,
I have worked with some other folks that just had dinner with a gentleman.
He did 450,000 of income.
It was very first year in roofing sales, leaving from being a school teacher.
So again, crazy story, almost half million dollars in a year in his first year.
Will everyone do that?
No, they won't only the top, top, top will do that.
And I want to break this down now into a bit to substantiate these numbers.
So you can just say, Hey, like where is this gonna shake out for me and why?
So again, 75,000, again, just with the, with, with roofing sales, the schedule,
the hours, uh, the stress that it can take the, the expense that we have the
wear and tear in our vehicles, things.
Our equipment, like to me, if I wasn't doing this, I would
just go get a job elsewhere.
Cause I think that I'd be happier or maybe, maybe make the same amount of money
or a little less, but have less costs.
So that is to me like the threshold of, are you a good
fit by the way, one sale a week.
If you're truly working fulltime bare bones minimum.
If you're not doing one sale a week, it's not a good fit.
That's my opinion.
If you're actually out there working, you should be doing more.
And if you're not, there's some, by the way, it doesn't mean you should quit.
You need to give this a hard look, am I the right person for this?
And if you are the right person, it means we need to start fine
tuning some of those sales skills.
So that's that, that low end mid range.
Again, we're looking about a hundred to one 50, the high end one 50 to
300 now, uh, year over year, you'll see some growth cuz you again,
it's personal development in the.
You're gonna get better at time management.
You're gonna have a pipeline, more referrals carry over
from the previous year.
So what I wanna break down is some of the factors for you to understand when you
see these numbers thrown out online, and you have the temptation to size yourself
up and compare because it's human nature.
And unfortunately, that's what social media's designed do.
So let's break those down first.
We have the w two versus 10 99 can of worms.
W two is an.
your employer has a higher cost to have you as an employee.
There's an additional 7.5%.
If my memory serves me, uh, tax that's being taken out on that, uh, you do
get more stability and you can go buy your first home for example, cuz
you don't need the two years of tax history as an independent contractor.
So w two will likely usually pay less, but there's additional benefits.
Oftentimes either a benefit plan.
Or perks of having the protection of, of being an employee of a company 10 99,
usually gonna be higher commissions cuz the cost of the company is much lower.
So that's first factor.
All right, next, we're gonna talk about is location.
Let's talk location.
Come on, Penn.
Here we go.
Location.
So a roof in Mississippi is very different than the price of a roof in
Minnesota and very different than Texas and very different than Florida, Texas.
Mississippi much lower roof prices than they are in Minnesota, in Florida, right.
Minnesota and Florida right now are probably about almost twice the cost
per square as Mississippi and Texas.
Not, not quite twice, but almost twice.
So you can imagine that there's, there's more profit.
If someone is out, you know, really scraped by like, I've got some guys
down in south Texas, they're averager 10,000 and then the folks up in
Minneapolis, 22,000, twice the volume.
So we have to remember.
What size roofs are they selling?
So locations.
The next one.
All right, next factor you gotta think of is this retail or storm?
Okay.
Storm deals can be really big, often easier to do high volume,
cuz there's an established need.
Right?
Those roofs are damaged where retail, we gotta go create the need.
Not everyone needs in your roof.
And then the final piece on this is leads.
Are you self generating your own leads?
Are you out knocking?
Or is your company setting those appointments?
All right, because imagine if you had to go set every single appointment.
You had to go generate your own leads.
That's gonna take more time than if you had a set, an appointment setter
and you literally start up every day.
You look at your calendar.
I just gotta go here, here, here.
And again, I work with companies that do both.
One of 'em their sales team is closing on average about 16 sales per month.
And the other one there's there.
There's closing less larger project size, more in depth, self generate leads
versus these guys are just boom, boom, boom, running appointments every day.
Show up here, here, here, and here.
So as you can see, as you shake this out, there's a lot of factors.
how are you employed?
Where are you selling in the size of the roofs?
Is it retailer storm?
How do the leads come in?
And then the last one is probably the most important and
that's your responsibilities?
Okay.
So let me break down.
What I mean by responsibilities, there are some companies that run a project cradle
to grave, meaning from the mini you sell it, everything that happens in between
to ordering the material, to managing production, to cleaning up and invoicing.
And if you do it cradle to grave, your commission will be higher,
but it's more time consum.
on the other side of the coin.
Some companies focus on just keeping sales, people selling, and that's it.
You turn in deals.
Office handles the rest, likely comes with a little lower commission
because you have a lot more time to focus exclusively on selling.
And that's why it's so important for you to understand what kind of person you are.
If you're horrible with managing details.
Like I am, if you're horrible at math, like I am.
And if you're horrible with managing, uh, time and all this running around.
You definitely do not want to be selling for a company where you're
doing everything cradle to grave.
If you're an amazing sales person, you're like, just put me in front of people.
You probably want to go to a company that's got leads.
So in retail where you can just plug in and just show up and have
conversations and close deals and move on to the next one.
So you need to really hone down.
That good fit for you, by the way, I've done that.
If you're new in the business, I've done video on how to choose the right roofing
company to sell for, to match culture.
What questions to ask and another video I've done that you might be interested in.
We'll put a card up here is the brutal truth of roofing sales and what to expect.
I break down a little bit more into a little bit more detail, kind, what
those realistic expectations are in the, the aspects of this career
that people just don't talk about.
So in summary, realistically 75 K first.
Absolutely doable, a hundred to one 50 mid-range again, reasonable target one 50,
plus you're in a great spot at that point.
And those key considerations, w two verse 10 99, where you're selling in the size of
those roofs in the profit margins, in your market, retailer storm, whether leads come
in or not, or if you're self-generating them and then your responsibilities.
So there you have it.
Now, if you are someone who's new or eager, maybe you're an owner running
a team and you wanna help your.
Not only figure out how much they should make, but find a goal and turn that goal
into a daily plan and then give them everything they need to smash that goal,
the material to self generate leads, canvas overcome objections and close.
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