He Says, She Says, They Say

We discuss the concept of the “mental load” with Natasha Shazana, who not only has a family to feed, but also two feline dependents and a startup she plans to launch in 2021. Iqbal and Azielia chat with her as she shares her experience cooking dinner while juggling 3 other household responsibilities at the same time only to be told, "you should have asked me to help!"

Show Notes

Welcoming our first guest to the podcast is Natasha Shazana, the founder of SOKO [as in soko(ng)], an intimate apparel brand based in Malaysia which prioritises comfort and real women representation. As a mother of two (cats), a wife of one (husband), and a daughter of an outstanding couple, Natasha is readjusting to the KL-life having moved here from the Big Apple (NYC). In this episode, Natasha shares her thoughts on a concept that we often face but seldom hear, the "mental load". Join your hosts, Iqbal and Azielia, and Natasha as they find out what the mental load is about, why so many couples still deal with this problem, and what the solution might be - even if there is a 100% chance some people might take this problem as just overthinking!

We would like to thank Natasha for revealing her secrets. 

Topics discussed in this episode are:

* What is the mental load?
* Why does it discriminate between genders?
* Why is there an expectation for some to take on a heavier mental load than others?
* The guest shares her personal experience on the matter 
* How do we overcome it?

Social media links:

Natasha Shazana
Instagram: @brapreneur 
Twitter: @brapreneur 

Iqbal Fatkhi
instagram: @iqtodabal
Twitter: @iqtodabal 

Azielia Anne
Twitter: @azielianne 


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Thanks for listening! Till next time, Bye!

What is He Says, She Says, They Say?

A podcast about conversations on topics that men and women don't usually have with each other... but should. With perspectives from different guests each episode, we'll make you think, question, and most importantly (hopefully), laugh!