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Thank you.

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what is up everybody it's the chairman of

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the united states department of nerds

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where we are for the people by the

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people and of the people and today we're

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welcoming back a familiar face to the usdn

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creator writer and visual storyteller

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bruno catarino you've seen his work evolve

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through projects like crimson bay

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cinematic figments and now he's igniting

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something brand new

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flame vault number one bruno welcome back

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my friend hey nice nice to be back

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again thanks for having me and always

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always i i always tell you anytime you're

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ready to come on i'm a message away

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thank you and again that intro always gets

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me the you know the the beginning of

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the podcast is just awesome every time

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that's that's the team man they make that

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and it's an awesome intro and i'm thankful

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to have that intro and the people who

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helped me make that kind of stuff so

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So Bruno,

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every time you've been on this show,

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it feels like your work has evolved.

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Tell us about Flamebolt and why was this

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story you felt compelled to tell next?

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Why do you start with difficult questions?

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This is going to be the easiest one

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you get all day.

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okay good to know um no so yeah

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i mean um most of the projects i've

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done had been you know uh one shots

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until now i mean i've done cinematic

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figments but that is not a one shot

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Yeah, Crimson Bay is not a one-shot,

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but I think that I had done those...

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I guess what I'm saying is that I

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started working on Crimson Bay around the

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time I started working on Flame Vault.

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And basically the idea was I had created

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these one-shots and I thought,

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you know what, it's time to...

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be a bit more ambitious to start doing

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some series.

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And yes, Crimson Bay was the first one.

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Flame Vault is the next one.

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And yeah,

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it's really that it's like the natural

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evolution of, you know,

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start small and keep going, you know,

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keep aiming for bigger things.

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And I guess that's it, you know,

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moving from one shots to series.

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And I have this series now, Flame Vault,

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that I hope is going to be

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around for a really long time i started

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working on it recently but it's been in

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my head for over a decade yeah so

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yeah it's one of those that it's it's

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really great to finally you know see it

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And you're settling in.

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I think you're comfortable now with your

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writing in a series is kind of like

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that next progression from into that.

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So, no, I've read it.

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I enjoyed it.

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I told you that from the very beginning.

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And I know you did initially release

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Flamebolt during a convention.

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Yeah, Thought Bubble,

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which is like the biggest.

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So it's probably the only comic book only

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convention in the UK,

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or at least the only big one.

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So yeah, I thought, you know,

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I managed to get in this year.

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Well, last year.

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So I was really happy with that.

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And I thought, you know what?

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I'm going to release a book there.

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So that was Flame Vault.

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No, Thought Bubble,

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I followed Thought Bubble throughout the

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whole process, and that thing was amazing.

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Seeing the guests they had,

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some of the artists they had,

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some of the writers they had,

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you were definitely in a good circle

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there, for sure,

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because there were some really great,

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talented people there,

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so that had to be amazing just to

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be a part of.

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It was, and I was actually kind of...

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my table was next to a lot of

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folks that you know that i followed their

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work for a while so just being in

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the middle of them was just freaking

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amazing yeah oh i can imagine it was

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one of those where when you said you

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were there and i was looking into it

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also um mike's grace was there with his

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comic book uh zip he was there um

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i'm pretty sure i know i do have

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a few people there

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What's that?

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I do have a couple of issues of

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Zip.

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Yeah, it's such a fun read.

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It's such a fun comic book.

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And I'm happy to have had Mike on

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here quite a few times and himself.

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And he's always a fun person to have

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on.

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much like yourself you know but it was

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kind of cool with people who've been on

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my podcast at this huge convention in the

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uk and i'm like i know them i

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know them and oh i wonder if i

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could get them you know just watching this

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whole thing like come together on

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instagram and facebook and seeing the

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pictures people were sharing and i'm like

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i was so impressed with it i was

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just like that's amazing to see so

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Yeah,

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and it's the kind of convention that we

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need more of because it's really just

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comics.

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Not just in the UK,

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but also here in the US.

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I know there's a lot of smaller ones

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that focus just on the comic books,

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but it's one of those where, no,

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a hundred percent,

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I think Comic-Con should go back to being

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exactly that, Comic-Cons.

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It's what the comic is in the name.

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yeah exactly i mean i i'm off to

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two minds because i do i do think

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that comic-con you know should be for

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everyone and it's fine that it has a

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little bit of everything it's just that

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most comic cons especially in the uk are

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not about comics anymore yeah and i mean

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i'll i'll give you know kudos to mcm

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which recently has started to move more

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towards comics again and that's great

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but that's just them other than top level.

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It's, it's really depressing.

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Yeah.

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No, it is something we,

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it's the same way here.

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I really do wish,

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I think San Diego this year,

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they put a lot more focus on the

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comic books.

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I'm hoping New York does the same thing.

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Cause that's our, really our two biggest.

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So it's going to be interesting to see

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because I really would like to see at

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least the big two,

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which be in San Diego and New York,

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really just become about the comics again.

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But we'll see how it works out.

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Who knows?

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Because they make most of their money off

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the other stuff.

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Yeah.

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There are ways to kind of cross over

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between the two.

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For example,

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this is something that I keep pitching to

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convention organizers,

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but let's say that you have,

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I don't know, voice actors at conventions.

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Wouldn't you love to hear them acting out

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an issue of a comic?

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Yeah,

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there's some really good podcasts out

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there like that.

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Yeah, but having it live on stage.

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No, that would be really cool.

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You're crossing over something that people

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already love,

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like actors from a show that they love,

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with introducing people to a new comic.

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And I think there's a lot of interactions

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that you can do.

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Yeah.

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No, that would be really cool.

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Because one of my favorite podcasts to

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listen to on road trips is exactly that.

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It's a bunch of voice actors reading...

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their characters from comic books.

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It is fun to hear them doing the

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voice of their character while reading the

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comic.

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What's the name of the podcast?

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Because I didn't know it.

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It's the girl from the AT&T commercials.

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The girl that does Squirrel Girl.

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Okay.

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It's her.

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I'm not sure the name of the podcast

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off the top of my head.

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Okay, okay, I'll have to search it.

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Because I haven't had a road trip in

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a long time,

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so I haven't listened to it in a

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long time.

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But yeah,

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it's the girl who does Squirrel Girl.

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Okay, I'll have to search that because...

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That's in school, yeah.

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Yeah, it's really funny.

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No, no, no, you're good, man.

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You're good.

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So we've talked about your cinematic

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approach and genre blending before.

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How did these past projects like build

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Flamebolt and what new creative territory

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are you exploring with this series outside

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of it actually being going to be a

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series where we have an origin story and

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we're going to have a story?

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uh yeah i mean i think if you

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read like cinematic figments that's a lot

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more you know philosophical sort of thing

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i think it still has a little bit

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of that so it's more of a it's

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kind of blending something that is a

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little bit more commercial more mainstream

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but still have like that

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form of storytelling that I like.

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And I think Flame Vault is that because

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it's yes, it's a superhero story.

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Yes, you know,

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you have superheroes and stuff like that,

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but it's very much about how this affects

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the world.

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You basically have a world where there

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were no superheroes and then all of a

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sudden overnight superheroes appear.

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how does that affect the world?

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That's why I pitch it as, you know,

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Walking Dead with superheroes because it's

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kind of the same.

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Yeah, I mean, and I love,

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I don't want to give too much away

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from the book because I do want people

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to go and support the book on Kickstarter.

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Like, I love how

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It starts because this guy,

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which thought he was doing the right

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thing,

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set off this cataclysmic event where a lot

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of people died,

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but a lot of people evolved into basically

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meta humans or superheroes.

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Yeah, and I think that, you know,

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kind of trying to answer your question,

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which I'm not really doing.

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No, no, no, you are.

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You're good.

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I think where, you know,

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where I'm trying to do something different

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is that.

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I'm trying to,

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because I feel like I've been doing

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something that it's very,

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maybe not as mainstream,

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and I'm kind of trying to blend in

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So do something that people are more

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familiar with,

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but still do it in my way.

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Yeah, no, you hit that out the park.

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You definitely did that.

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Thank you.

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Because, I mean,

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it's one of those where...

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When I read it,

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and I've read all your work up to

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this point.

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I've read literally everything you've

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done,

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and I've watched it evolve to now Crimson

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Bay, which was fantastic,

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and now into Flamebolt,

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which is very much a series as well.

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The way you start things off,

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and I'm really interested to see,

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because this is going to be your first...

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know series with crimson bay and flame

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bolt like how you do a series you

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know from because you're used to one shots

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now see how you continue a story which

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is going to be really interesting to see

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how you do that because this is like

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i said the first time we're going to

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be experiencing you do a series that let's

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see how you do issue number two because

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i really i'm ready for crimson bay number

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two to be fair

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And so I'm really excited about that and

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where you're going to take these stories.

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Good news is that Crimson Bay two is

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actually kind of finished.

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Nice.

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Just needs to have the lettering done.

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I need to have some time to kind

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of just go through the script one last

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time.

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Yeah.

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Before I send the letter.

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But the art is finished.

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So nice.

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But yeah,

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I think Crimson Bay and Flame Vault are

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actually kind of different.

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Oh, they're very different stories,

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very different approaches.

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yeah but also you still have your it's

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all bruno though you know what i'm saying

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no it is but it's like you know

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the way that they compare is that or

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crimson bay is like very much action heavy

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like very you start in the middle of

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it pretty much you have like three pages

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of this is the backstory and you're into

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it while flame vault is very much like

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um uh you know slow paced

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thing where you you but it's not really

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slow though because the way it starts is

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you know there is a protest right yeah

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so it's not i mean it's not per

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se superhero action but it's not like

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you're slow building into that i mean what

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is happening makes sense and it works and

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it yeah you didn't just jump into it

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by boom here's superheroes you you gave us

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why there is now superheroes in the main

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person who is responsible for accidentally

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creating superheroes which in turn when

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you create superheroes you've now also

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created villains yeah exactly so it's

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definitely going to be interesting and

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everything in between

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Exactly.

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There's going to be some anomalies out

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there because it's such a cool origin

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story.

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And I'm excited to see where you go

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with that one.

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yeah i've heard the i can't remember the

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name but people have mentioned that

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there's one other series that kind of does

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that which i did i had no idea

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you know the whole superheroes just become

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real i don't i don't know it's hard

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to like to to follow everything because

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yeah any comments drop left and right

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So it's really hard to know what else

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somebody else is doing.

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So it's inevitable that one comic book

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looks similar to another,

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sounds similar to another.

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But you have to take into account that

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that's two different writers,

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two different minds,

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two different artists,

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two different letters, colors.

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So you're going to get a very similar

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story,

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but they're all going to be very

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different.

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They may look and sound the same,

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but they're all very different.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And I guess that's where, you know,

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the writer, well, the creator comes in,

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right?

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It's like, it's your point of view.

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It's your...

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exactly sorry right it's yeah it's a

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different take and that's why you know in

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marvel and dc you often have you know

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uh creators picking up a character that

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you already know and just telling like

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this very different story

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And you also get into it where multiple

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writers write multiple characters and then

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multiple writers write for both Marvel and

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DC.

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And it gets to a point where a

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DC character starts reading and sounding

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like that Marvel character they wrote as

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well, because that's just their style.

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yeah and to me that's i i'm not

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a fan of that because like i get

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it that worked over here but now you're

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trying to apply it to this dc character

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like that doesn't work for me because

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that's not the dc character and you lose

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continuity

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I guess it's a lot easier to get

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away with it when you're talking about

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original things.

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The premise may seem similar,

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but then different people are doing

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something entirely different.

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Exactly.

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Let's talk

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Flamebolt, who is this story about?

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What kind of setting are we entering?

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And what themes are driving the narrative

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behind the action of Flamebolt?

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Oh,

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you're going to make me think way back.

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It's three o'clock in the afternoon for

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you.

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It's ten eighteen in the morning for me.

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So you've had time to prep early there.

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Okay, fair enough.

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Yeah, I mean, yeah, so Flambeau,

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basically like we were talking earlier,

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is about this guy who,

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so the first few pages introduce this,

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so the same way that we have dark

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matter and we have dark energy,

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we scientists discovered this new particle

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that the press calls Miracle Stardust.

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And it basically is in this world,

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obviously,

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what is responsible for life existing and

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responsible for evolution.

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Of course,

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business people start trying to take

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advantage of that and using it and

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researching it.

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And there's this

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horrible accident in Svalbard which is a

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territory in you know North Pole where

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it's an area that mostly has scientists so

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that's the real place but in this world

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basically just something happens there

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nobody knows what and

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communication completely drops with the

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area entirely.

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So that's where the main character comes

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from.

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There's this protest at another

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headquarters of this company,

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and they are protesting research into this

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particle.

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And the main character has a chance to

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go inside and get evidence that they are

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researching with this.

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And he ends up setting up this chain

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reaction that basically causes everyone to

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gain super power.

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Well, everyone,

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let's say the unlucky ones.

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Yeah.

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The ones who weren't evaporated by it.

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yeah those are probably the lucky ones the

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ones that just melt um and yeah that's

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basically the premise is superheroes

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become real all of a sudden and then

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it's very much about this main character

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being responsible for everything that

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happened even though he was trying to do

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something good how does the um how does

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he react to this and how does the

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world uh react to this so

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Yeah, people who can, you know,

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suddenly power structures completely

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disappear because, you know,

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you have people with actual superpowers,

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economy changes, there's a lot of effects.

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It's very much about how the world is

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changed as it is about the characters.

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So yeah,

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I think that's what makes it different

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from other superhero stories.

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no i i like it and i will

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continue to harp on that that it was

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such a fun read and it's very different

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from crimson bay it's its own little thing

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and it was just it was so good

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and i'm it's one of those where you

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you've started something now i'm gonna

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hold your feet to the fire bruno you

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have to have to complete it yeah and

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the thing is this is a lot this

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is going to be a long one i

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do have

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I don't want to say this in a,

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you know,

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obviously one thing is what I thought when

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I started working on it years ago.

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The other is what actually is going to

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happen.

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But I literally would be able to have

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material for a decade of stories.

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And it's great having an open-ended story

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that you can always continue.

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Like you can get it to a certain

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arc and then you can, like,

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I'm going to take a year off of

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it and come back.

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And because you completed an arc,

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you can now come back with a new

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arc and start it again if you want

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to.

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So that's always great to have characters

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in a world like that.

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Yeah,

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and that's pretty much the goal for this

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year for me is that, you know,

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I started a couple of series last year

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and this year I want to be completing

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them.

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So I want to be focusing on,

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you know,

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I don't want people to be like, well,

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I backed Flame Vault one,

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where is edition two?

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You know, I want...

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i want to be putting out crimson bay

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and flame vault uh this year so that

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people get you know complete story uh i

00:22:02.056 --> 00:22:04.777
like it dude too long yeah and no

00:22:04.817 --> 00:22:06.836
that that's the the killer part right is

00:22:06.876 --> 00:22:08.498
when you have to sit around and wait

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and they and people have to understand

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you're an independent creator you're

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relying on get started to fund and push

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these things out

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So it's like, yeah,

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I wish I could get you an issue

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every other month or every other week.

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It's just there's the back end and the

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funding isn't there to do that.

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And you have to realistically put that

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into check and go.

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We could do it one a quarter,

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and that means you get three issues per

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year of each book, basically,

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depending on how you space it out,

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which to me is ideal anyway.

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You don't want to overstress yourself as

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an independent creator by trying to do too

00:22:54.611 --> 00:23:00.014
much too fast without having –

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that funds already in place,

00:23:02.053 --> 00:23:03.493
which as an independent creator,

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very few are going to have that kind

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of money just sitting around.

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Yeah, no, it's not going to happen.

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And that's the thing.

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I mean, first year,

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you can kind of use some savings you

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have.

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But then if the money is coming in,

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you know,

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you can't keep doing that every year.

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You have to pace yourself.

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And Flame Vault is funded at this moment.

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But, you know, by funded,

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we made a fraction, you know,

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of what I spent so far.

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Yeah.

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You got to think long run,

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and that means you can't really use it

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as fast as you would like to.

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Yeah.

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And like I said, at some point,

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reality does have to sit in, right?

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Yeah, absolutely.

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you have always had a strong visual

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identity going back to cinematic figments

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which i thought was phenomenal your artist

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was phenomenal on that walk us through

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your creative process on flame bolt from

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concept to page and what visually sets

00:24:03.664 --> 00:24:08.566
this project apart from your previous work

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with your like the one shots with

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bereavement and you know cinematic

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figments

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I mean, when it gets to the visual,

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I guess the input that I have there

00:24:21.673 --> 00:24:22.534
is mainly, you know,

00:24:22.974 --> 00:24:24.335
the choice of the artist, right?

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Yeah.

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It's pretty much about, you know,

00:24:27.156 --> 00:24:28.416
all the magic that, you know,

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Arturo did with the art.

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Are you still using the same artist on

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this one?

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So for Flimfold?

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Yes.

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So it was a different artist from Crimson

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Bay.

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So, yeah.

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Okay.

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I had never worked with either of them,

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really.

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uh but yeah they you know they uh

00:24:48.434 --> 00:24:50.497
put their own stamp and you know it

00:24:50.517 --> 00:24:52.178
has the unique look it has because you

00:24:52.198 --> 00:24:56.800
know because of them really so yeah my

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contribution on that side was you know

00:25:00.653 --> 00:25:03.134
i tried to write visually in the script

00:25:04.413 --> 00:25:05.993
and then i tried to write an artist

00:25:06.034 --> 00:25:07.894
that i tried to find an artist that

00:25:07.954 --> 00:25:11.996
i think works for that book yeah i

00:25:12.076 --> 00:25:14.935
very much like you know superhero kind of

00:25:14.976 --> 00:25:18.257
like the classic eighteen ninety style so

00:25:18.396 --> 00:25:20.037
i was always going to choose an artist

00:25:20.057 --> 00:25:21.738
that kind of gives a little bit of

00:25:21.778 --> 00:25:25.239
that vibe uh so yeah and i will

00:25:25.259 --> 00:25:26.378
say the art in this one it

00:25:27.946 --> 00:25:30.308
The colors are very modern and bright and

00:25:30.390 --> 00:25:32.332
vivid, which is very much a Bruno thing,

00:25:32.531 --> 00:25:33.172
in my opinion.

00:25:34.073 --> 00:25:35.454
But the art itself,

00:25:36.516 --> 00:25:39.499
you could see it from a different time

00:25:39.538 --> 00:25:39.959
period.

00:25:40.038 --> 00:25:41.421
But also, like I said,

00:25:41.901 --> 00:25:43.222
with the way the colors are done,

00:25:43.282 --> 00:25:44.144
it's very vivid.

00:25:44.163 --> 00:25:46.046
So it's very modern as well.

00:25:46.526 --> 00:25:47.907
So touche, man.

00:25:48.288 --> 00:25:49.148
It worked out, you know?

00:25:50.140 --> 00:25:52.701
yeah it's it's amazing those guys did an

00:25:52.721 --> 00:25:56.382
amazing job on that um but yeah i

00:25:56.402 --> 00:25:58.242
mean uh what was the other part of

00:25:58.262 --> 00:26:01.983
your question um no you you you got

00:26:02.044 --> 00:26:06.226
it yeah no you answered it uh it

00:26:06.246 --> 00:26:08.446
was like from concept to page and what

00:26:08.527 --> 00:26:11.008
visually sets this project apart you

00:26:11.087 --> 00:26:11.887
nailed that yeah

00:26:13.154 --> 00:26:14.115
You got it.

00:26:14.134 --> 00:26:14.214
Yeah,

00:26:14.234 --> 00:26:15.875
it was basically it was a two part

00:26:15.895 --> 00:26:16.516
question,

00:26:16.596 --> 00:26:18.557
but really just one answer to answer both

00:26:18.576 --> 00:26:19.477
parts of the question.

00:26:19.497 --> 00:26:20.656
So you're good.

00:26:20.717 --> 00:26:21.198
You're good.

00:26:22.357 --> 00:26:25.759
So for new readers discovering Flamebolt

00:26:25.939 --> 00:26:27.019
and discovering you,

00:26:27.538 --> 00:26:29.880
what kind of experience are they getting?

00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:32.401
Is this a clean entry point?

00:26:32.760 --> 00:26:34.801
And what should readers take away after

00:26:34.842 --> 00:26:35.602
the final page?

00:26:39.488 --> 00:26:41.048
So this is Flamebolt number one.

00:26:41.088 --> 00:26:42.829
It is the perfect entry point.

00:26:42.910 --> 00:26:45.192
But would you say like, hey,

00:26:45.271 --> 00:26:47.973
if you want to really understand like my

00:26:48.034 --> 00:26:49.934
storytelling, would you like, hey,

00:26:50.075 --> 00:26:51.935
read this book and then maybe read this

00:26:52.017 --> 00:26:54.637
book or maybe read Crimson Bay first and

00:26:54.657 --> 00:26:57.420
then read this one?

00:26:57.780 --> 00:26:57.980
No,

00:26:58.060 --> 00:27:00.321
I think you can really just jump on

00:27:00.342 --> 00:27:00.682
this.

00:27:00.702 --> 00:27:01.583
I mean,

00:27:02.844 --> 00:27:04.806
I think the thing with indie comics is

00:27:04.885 --> 00:27:05.185
that

00:27:07.138 --> 00:27:08.982
there's a lot of great stuff there and

00:27:09.002 --> 00:27:12.269
you need to you can only read as

00:27:12.329 --> 00:27:14.595
much as you have time and you are

00:27:14.634 --> 00:27:16.338
going to read probably the kind of stuff

00:27:16.378 --> 00:27:16.659
that

00:27:17.679 --> 00:27:20.601
you enjoy so if your thing is superheroes

00:27:20.641 --> 00:27:23.801
you know jump on this if you like

00:27:23.862 --> 00:27:26.503
martial arts do jump on crimson bay i

00:27:26.523 --> 00:27:28.704
guess it really is you know if you

00:27:28.724 --> 00:27:30.746
like complete stories pick up one of the

00:27:31.066 --> 00:27:32.948
one shots that i've done in the past

00:27:33.567 --> 00:27:35.009
it's really the kind of stuff that you

00:27:35.068 --> 00:27:37.849
like but flame vault you can jump on

00:27:37.910 --> 00:27:40.192
it right now uh because it's issue one

00:27:40.892 --> 00:27:43.613
and i think overall you will be able

00:27:43.653 --> 00:27:44.394
to just you know

00:27:46.682 --> 00:27:48.041
I guess the big advantage is, you know,

00:27:48.422 --> 00:27:50.143
we talked about Marvel and DC earlier.

00:27:50.762 --> 00:27:52.222
There's a lot of really great comics,

00:27:52.262 --> 00:27:54.702
but there's too much of it, right?

00:27:54.742 --> 00:27:57.423
And there's six years, you know,

00:27:57.523 --> 00:27:58.763
of history with Marvel.

00:27:58.804 --> 00:28:00.223
With DC, there's more than that.

00:28:00.784 --> 00:28:02.085
So it's like,

00:28:02.724 --> 00:28:04.384
it's hard to keep track and to,

00:28:04.785 --> 00:28:06.664
it feels like homework sometimes.

00:28:07.306 --> 00:28:08.046
And with this,

00:28:08.326 --> 00:28:09.986
you're starting from the beginning.

00:28:10.026 --> 00:28:11.625
You have issue one,

00:28:11.685 --> 00:28:12.787
there's nothing before.

00:28:13.267 --> 00:28:14.926
There's no continuity issues.

00:28:15.632 --> 00:28:15.892
Yeah,

00:28:15.991 --> 00:28:17.432
and the simple fact that there were no

00:28:17.452 --> 00:28:19.434
superheroes before issue one means that

00:28:19.474 --> 00:28:20.355
there's no, you know,

00:28:20.855 --> 00:28:22.376
you're not gonna have like this weird

00:28:22.436 --> 00:28:24.258
retcons of, oh,

00:28:24.278 --> 00:28:27.320
but fifty years ago this thing happened,

00:28:27.601 --> 00:28:30.103
that it happened this way but actually

00:28:30.123 --> 00:28:31.282
happened a different way.

00:28:31.983 --> 00:28:35.547
There's not gonna be that, I think.

00:28:36.487 --> 00:28:37.426
Let's see.

00:28:37.467 --> 00:28:38.587
But yeah,

00:28:39.107 --> 00:28:41.388
there is no homework to be done with

00:28:41.409 --> 00:28:41.588
this.

00:28:41.628 --> 00:28:44.569
You just jump in and it's enjoyable from

00:28:44.589 --> 00:28:45.049
the start.

00:28:45.549 --> 00:28:47.050
That's the best kind.

00:28:47.290 --> 00:28:51.291
When there's no homework involved to try

00:28:52.251 --> 00:28:53.613
to figure out what it is.

00:28:54.352 --> 00:28:55.554
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

00:28:55.773 --> 00:28:57.596
You can just jump in on the Kickstarter

00:28:57.615 --> 00:29:00.839
and get issue one and go with it.

00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:02.501
And that's great because that's exactly

00:29:02.521 --> 00:29:03.583
what I did on this one because I

00:29:03.624 --> 00:29:04.565
have all your other work.

00:29:05.045 --> 00:29:06.346
So for me, it was just like, oh,

00:29:06.467 --> 00:29:07.769
I can just get Flamebolt and be cool.

00:29:08.540 --> 00:29:09.622
I mean, yeah, exactly.

00:29:09.741 --> 00:29:12.243
I mean, one thing that I'll say, though,

00:29:12.284 --> 00:29:15.625
is that I have these things that I

00:29:15.665 --> 00:29:16.846
call Isco bundles,

00:29:16.866 --> 00:29:19.449
which are basically like international

00:29:19.568 --> 00:29:20.130
shipping.

00:29:21.431 --> 00:29:21.911
What is it?

00:29:22.352 --> 00:29:23.752
I forgot my own.

00:29:24.133 --> 00:29:24.874
Yeah,

00:29:25.054 --> 00:29:27.035
it may spend in the seven dollars to

00:29:27.075 --> 00:29:28.817
ship or nine dollars to ship worth.

00:29:29.513 --> 00:29:31.775
Because you have to pay the same dollar

00:29:31.795 --> 00:29:32.615
amount to ship.

00:29:32.895 --> 00:29:34.336
So you might as well get your money's

00:29:34.376 --> 00:29:34.696
worth.

00:29:35.117 --> 00:29:35.657
Yeah, exactly.

00:29:35.698 --> 00:29:37.598
Because basically international shipping

00:29:37.699 --> 00:29:38.700
is by weight.

00:29:39.640 --> 00:29:40.621
If you get three books,

00:29:40.820 --> 00:29:42.942
you get basically more out of them if

00:29:42.961 --> 00:29:44.042
you just get one or two.

00:29:46.265 --> 00:29:48.925
So you can basically get three books and

00:29:48.965 --> 00:29:51.827
then you can choose to jump on Flame

00:29:51.867 --> 00:29:53.288
Vault or you can choose to jump on

00:29:53.409 --> 00:29:55.029
one of the other two books that are

00:29:55.049 --> 00:29:56.810
in the same bundle if you choose to

00:29:56.830 --> 00:29:57.751
get one of those bundles.

00:29:58.823 --> 00:29:59.463
Yeah,

00:29:59.523 --> 00:30:01.685
it's one of those where I was like,

00:30:01.705 --> 00:30:02.807
I have those already,

00:30:02.846 --> 00:30:04.829
so I don't want to start piling up

00:30:04.930 --> 00:30:06.290
duplicates because then they're just

00:30:07.231 --> 00:30:07.613
there.

00:30:09.013 --> 00:30:10.455
Well, I could sell them,

00:30:10.496 --> 00:30:11.457
but I don't want to do that.

00:30:11.777 --> 00:30:14.059
No, but in your case,

00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:15.080
it didn't make sense, right?

00:30:15.101 --> 00:30:17.824
Because I think this is more for people

00:30:17.884 --> 00:30:18.664
who are coming in.

00:30:18.684 --> 00:30:20.727
Just discovering it and picking it up.

00:30:21.806 --> 00:30:23.606
yeah for anybody to pick it up definitely

00:30:23.646 --> 00:30:25.227
get in on the bundles because you're going

00:30:25.247 --> 00:30:27.028
to get some great boats prey i will

00:30:27.048 --> 00:30:31.348
say is a phenomenal story so definitely

00:30:31.409 --> 00:30:32.789
check that one out i think that's one

00:30:32.809 --> 00:30:34.390
of the ones in the bundle and what

00:30:34.410 --> 00:30:35.730
was the other one the one with the

00:30:35.931 --> 00:30:40.251
camera uh portrait of a soul portrait of

00:30:40.271 --> 00:30:42.792
a soul another one check that one out

00:30:43.252 --> 00:30:45.953
that's weird that's the weird one it

00:30:45.993 --> 00:30:48.914
really is but it's really good too but

00:30:49.115 --> 00:30:49.394
um

00:30:50.830 --> 00:30:52.593
Let's talk about how fans can support the

00:30:52.633 --> 00:30:53.413
project, Bruno,

00:30:53.554 --> 00:30:55.096
and what can backers expect from

00:30:55.155 --> 00:30:57.798
Flamebolt, issue one on Kickstarter,

00:30:58.839 --> 00:31:01.262
and why is backing Indie Comics at this

00:31:01.282 --> 00:31:02.784
stage so important?

00:31:03.144 --> 00:31:03.345
You know,

00:31:03.365 --> 00:31:05.688
this is my standard question that I always

00:31:05.728 --> 00:31:06.929
throw out there for everybody with a

00:31:06.969 --> 00:31:07.470
Kickstarter.

00:31:09.039 --> 00:31:11.862
uh yeah i mean do back in the

00:31:11.903 --> 00:31:14.203
comics even if you don't pack mine back

00:31:14.484 --> 00:31:16.445
back in the comics because they can't get

00:31:16.486 --> 00:31:20.849
made you know without that um yeah i

00:31:20.890 --> 00:31:23.211
mean from flame vault you get you know

00:31:23.270 --> 00:31:23.852
the usual

00:31:25.532 --> 00:31:28.396
issues just individual issues you get the

00:31:28.416 --> 00:31:31.540
the bundles uh i do have like some

00:31:31.882 --> 00:31:34.105
uh i do mix up some you know

00:31:34.665 --> 00:31:39.011
freebies like um uh dnd custom content

00:31:39.051 --> 00:31:41.474
based on you know the this world of

00:31:42.276 --> 00:31:46.597
flame vault and there's an any bundle with

00:31:47.857 --> 00:31:50.959
uh any uh reward here that you get

00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:54.701
uh you get some extra indies from other

00:31:54.840 --> 00:31:57.422
creators and that's a great way to get

00:31:57.461 --> 00:31:59.162
to know you know the work of other

00:31:59.201 --> 00:32:03.423
people to get value for money because uh

00:32:03.483 --> 00:32:05.305
so yeah i mean that's i i guess

00:32:05.704 --> 00:32:07.005
that's an advantage that you get with

00:32:07.125 --> 00:32:09.306
indie comics especially on kickstarter

00:32:09.326 --> 00:32:10.946
that you don't get almost anywhere else

00:32:11.686 --> 00:32:13.969
is that you get a ton of value

00:32:13.989 --> 00:32:17.151
for money even though it's expensive uh

00:32:17.171 --> 00:32:18.632
but you get a lot of comics you

00:32:18.652 --> 00:32:20.473
get exposed to a lot of different people

00:32:21.355 --> 00:32:23.997
yeah and what i like about kickstarter is

00:32:24.396 --> 00:32:27.078
so they back bruno kickstarter is going to

00:32:27.118 --> 00:32:29.661
make them other recommendations based off

00:32:29.721 --> 00:32:31.761
of you so they can also discover their

00:32:31.843 --> 00:32:32.143
next

00:32:33.171 --> 00:32:35.231
favorite writer and creator.

00:32:35.692 --> 00:32:37.913
So that's what I really enjoy about it

00:32:37.973 --> 00:32:38.974
is that, Oh,

00:32:38.994 --> 00:32:40.695
you just bet this book where here's three

00:32:40.756 --> 00:32:41.635
others just like it.

00:32:41.675 --> 00:32:42.757
If you want to get to know them

00:32:42.797 --> 00:32:43.176
as well.

00:32:43.877 --> 00:32:44.798
And there's no pressure.

00:32:44.837 --> 00:32:45.699
They don't be like, Oh,

00:32:45.778 --> 00:32:47.200
make sure you back these two.

00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:50.662
It's like what, you know, it's,

00:32:51.423 --> 00:32:53.723
I want to say it's affordable and it's

00:32:53.784 --> 00:32:55.505
like, it's no pressure really, you know,

00:32:55.585 --> 00:32:55.984
cause you,

00:32:56.144 --> 00:32:57.465
they can help out in any kind of

00:32:57.506 --> 00:32:57.766
way.

00:32:58.946 --> 00:33:00.847
But, uh, cause especially like when, uh,

00:33:02.201 --> 00:33:03.763
you hit that notify me on launch.

00:33:05.684 --> 00:33:08.067
You are providing feedback to the creator

00:33:08.087 --> 00:33:09.709
saying, oh, I'm interested in this.

00:33:09.729 --> 00:33:10.670
I don't know if I'll back it,

00:33:10.690 --> 00:33:11.971
but I am interested.

00:33:14.326 --> 00:33:15.686
And that's the thing, I mean,

00:33:15.948 --> 00:33:18.289
when you think about indie comics compared

00:33:18.329 --> 00:33:21.232
to mainstream comics, it's more expensive,

00:33:21.373 --> 00:33:23.634
but when you look at other businesses

00:33:23.694 --> 00:33:26.978
like, you know, I don't know, Carpentry,

00:33:27.178 --> 00:33:28.960
if you buy something on, you know,

00:33:29.180 --> 00:33:31.883
Ikea versus something custom,

00:33:31.962 --> 00:33:33.944
the price difference can be very...

00:33:35.316 --> 00:33:37.717
big and with comics it's not really like

00:33:37.737 --> 00:33:40.478
that you're uh you may get something a

00:33:40.518 --> 00:33:42.019
little bit more expensive but you're

00:33:42.479 --> 00:33:46.760
supporting a new creator and you're also

00:33:46.780 --> 00:33:48.761
getting a lot of extra stuff and to

00:33:48.781 --> 00:33:51.383
be fair a lot of marvel in dc

00:33:51.442 --> 00:33:53.844
is like eight ninety nine now nine ninety

00:33:53.884 --> 00:33:56.025
nine in some cases for some books

00:33:56.045 --> 00:33:58.425
depending on what they are so

00:33:59.205 --> 00:34:01.446
it is the prices are almost equal now

00:34:01.487 --> 00:34:03.548
to begin with where there's an indie comic

00:34:03.628 --> 00:34:05.089
or a freaking mainstream that you're

00:34:05.109 --> 00:34:08.711
buying from marvel in dc because some of

00:34:08.731 --> 00:34:13.914
their prices have gotten ridiculous like

00:34:14.076 --> 00:34:16.137
six ninety nine for a standard floppy

00:34:16.197 --> 00:34:19.259
issue come on for a floppy really yeah

00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:23.061
yeah okay that's more expensive than i

00:34:23.101 --> 00:34:25.103
sell comics yeah

00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:27.119
Oh, wow.

00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:29.481
The prices for Marvel and DC are getting

00:34:29.521 --> 00:34:30.101
up there, dude.

00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:31.760
It's kind of crazy.

00:34:33.701 --> 00:34:34.161
There you go.

00:34:34.380 --> 00:34:35.242
Back in the comics.

00:34:35.922 --> 00:34:36.842
Yeah.

00:34:36.902 --> 00:34:43.643
So what's Flamebolt issue one is out in

00:34:43.702 --> 00:34:44.262
the world.

00:34:44.722 --> 00:34:45.563
What's next?

00:34:45.742 --> 00:34:47.344
Is this the start of a well,

00:34:47.443 --> 00:34:48.744
I know this will be the start of

00:34:48.764 --> 00:34:52.003
a longer saga for Flamebolt and something

00:34:52.043 --> 00:34:53.824
bigger within the Flamebolt universe will

00:34:53.864 --> 00:34:54.764
eventually come.

00:34:55.623 --> 00:34:56.543
what are like,

00:34:57.003 --> 00:34:59.403
are you going to be revealing the main

00:34:59.704 --> 00:35:02.164
like villain in this next issue of flame

00:35:02.184 --> 00:35:02.344
bolt?

00:35:02.425 --> 00:35:04.244
Cause right now we're at an origin story

00:35:04.286 --> 00:35:07.385
where our hero wakes up and he's been

00:35:07.445 --> 00:35:12.748
captured for being like, we're like, dude,

00:35:12.807 --> 00:35:15.309
you know what you did, right?

00:35:15.429 --> 00:35:17.869
I mean, he did something really bad,

00:35:17.929 --> 00:35:19.250
but yeah.

00:35:20.269 --> 00:35:22.210
So something really bad with good

00:35:22.271 --> 00:35:22.911
intentions.

00:35:24.114 --> 00:35:28.255
well yeah true but you know but yeah

00:35:28.295 --> 00:35:30.536
uh on issue two you will see a

00:35:30.577 --> 00:35:35.438
lot more standard superhero super villain

00:35:35.458 --> 00:35:40.818
dynamics uh so i wrote an article about

00:35:41.179 --> 00:35:46.721
um uh the inspiration that a game that

00:35:46.740 --> 00:35:48.320
i used to play called city of heroes

00:35:48.340 --> 00:35:51.362
had oh yeah yeah i played it back

00:35:51.382 --> 00:35:51.822
in early

00:35:52.661 --> 00:35:54.623
yeah yeah yeah you play that okay yeah

00:35:54.643 --> 00:35:57.327
yeah because it came out like that's when

00:35:57.487 --> 00:36:00.891
uh world of warcraft was getting really

00:36:00.931 --> 00:36:03.233
really big but then this game come along

00:36:03.253 --> 00:36:04.894
called city of heroes where you get to

00:36:04.934 --> 00:36:07.016
make your own superhero and you could

00:36:07.056 --> 00:36:08.478
either be a bad guy or a good

00:36:08.518 --> 00:36:10.280
guy based on your actions and you got

00:36:10.300 --> 00:36:12.963
to yeah it was a phenomenal phenomenal

00:36:13.003 --> 00:36:13.284
game

00:36:13.976 --> 00:36:14.195
Yeah,

00:36:14.255 --> 00:36:17.777
so I basically wrote an article about that

00:36:17.958 --> 00:36:19.338
on, you know, Substack,

00:36:20.500 --> 00:36:21.539
how it influenced it.

00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:24.762
And I have a lot of shots from

00:36:25.322 --> 00:36:26.663
some of the characters that you're going

00:36:26.682 --> 00:36:28.523
to see on issue two.

00:36:29.625 --> 00:36:32.186
And some concept art as well that I

00:36:32.226 --> 00:36:35.507
got someone to do a few years ago.

00:36:35.648 --> 00:36:37.449
So this is a project that I've been

00:36:37.489 --> 00:36:40.590
working on for over a decade, really.

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Yeah.

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I have notes going back a really long

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time.

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So on issue two,

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you will start seeing a lot of those.

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And you will see...

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I wouldn't call it main villain because I

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don't think there is a main villain.

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We'll start seeing some faces that will

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become familiar.

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Now,

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I like that because I'm glad you brought

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up City of Heroes because if Flame Vault

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is going to be anything similar to City

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of Heroes,

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it's just going to be a ton of

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fun.

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Because every day,

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City of Heroes that you played,

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it was something different.

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Like, yeah, the mission could be the same,

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but the way you interacted with that

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mission was different every single time.

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So it made it a lot of fun

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to play and to build your character in

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it.

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So...

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Yeah, I mean, to be fair,

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it doesn't really have much similarity

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with City of Heroes itself.

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It's more about...

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I brought it up mainly because it's

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something that I wrote where a lot of

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the characters are being introduced that

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you're going to see later.

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But I think thematically it's a lot closer

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to something like, you know,

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The Walking Dead or Children of Men or,

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you know... No, no.

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And that makes sense,

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but I was such a big fan of

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City of Heroes.

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I'm running with it.

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It's such a good game.

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I guess people still played.

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I haven't played it since like two

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thousand four, two thousand five, I guess.

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yeah uh it's it's still so it doesn't

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exist officially but it still exists

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there's some okay let's call it uh an

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official servers uh pirate servers but an

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official yeah it was just such a fun

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game and it's one of those where i

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know like world of warcraft is still going

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and there's been multiple expansion paths

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and that's one of those where

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One of the reasons why I stopped playing

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City of Heroes,

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it just felt like it was dying.

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It didn't have the support that I felt

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it should have had.

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Because you wanted more from the game.

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And they could have gave us so much

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more.

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But it just never happened.

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I mean, I think in terms of customization,

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it was ahead of its time.

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Oh, a hundred percent ahead of its time.

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You could customize character in a lot of

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gorgeous ways, like, you know,

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visually the costumes,

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you could customize the superpowers.

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you could create missions it was very

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customizable in comparison with you know

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stuff that's being made today and this

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which is wild because the only thing that

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was really comparable to it was world of

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warcraft with the the amount of

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customization that you could do even

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though even on world of warcraft you were

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still limited by what your character's

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strengths and weaknesses were

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yeah but yeah but visually i i thought

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it was a lot more limited i think

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that's where city of heroes really shine

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is that the character yeah no yeah it

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was it was insane yeah it really was

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insane yeah no i'm right there with you

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and we i yeah that was one of

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those games where i was it was just

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such a fun thing to pick up and

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play so so bruno for anyone who's watching

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right now and listening later

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for someone who loves indie comics but

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hasn't backed you yet why should flame

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bolt be the project that they go bruno's

00:40:16.831 --> 00:40:20.893
my guy now i'm back in flame bowl

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sell the people your book i mean um

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if you like weird things let's put it

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like that so if if you want like

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typical superhero stuff

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give it a try but if you like

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different takes on you know stories that

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you might be used to see but like

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with

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I mean,

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if you read cinematic figments and you

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like it,

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this is a superhero version of that.

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Let's put it like that.

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That's a good way to put it.

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I like that.

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Yeah,

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if you like weird sci-fi kind of

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existential sort of thing,

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this is a lot milder.

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I mean, it's a lot more, again,

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it's a lot more mainstream.

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It's not as abstract,

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but let's call it a superhero version of

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that.

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No, I like that description.

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For anybody out there wondering,

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Cinematic Figments is a sci-fi anthology

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series.

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I think there's three stories in the book,

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if I'm remembering right.

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Two on each.

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There's two books.

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Yeah.

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Possibly coming out this year.

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Okay.

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But, yeah, it's very interesting,

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and they're both really fun reads.

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So if that's any indication, plus it –

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Cinematic Figments has the USDN seal of

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approval on it,

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as well as most of Bruno's other work.

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So I will back Bruno's work from the

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chairman here of the USDN.

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I would highly recommend checking out

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Bruno's stuff.

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He brings something new and different to

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the table each time,

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and I'm happy to see him dipping his

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toes into writing a series with both

00:42:11.746 --> 00:42:14.786
Crimson Bay and Flamebolt just to see what

00:42:14.847 --> 00:42:17.047
my man can bring to the table with

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the series.

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Thank you.

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I will just say this.

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Cinematic figments is good even for Doctor

00:42:24.889 --> 00:42:25.030
Who.

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Doctor Who, one of them,

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has both cinematic figments.

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Nice.

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If it's good enough for Doctor Who,

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it's good enough for everybody, damn it.

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But before we wrap this up, Bruno,

00:42:43.362 --> 00:42:45.923
let everyone know where they can follow

00:42:45.983 --> 00:42:47.786
you and keep up with Flamebolt.

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Yeah, I mean,

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if you go to the Kickstarter and look

00:42:52.820 --> 00:42:53.661
for Flame Vault,

00:42:53.701 --> 00:42:56.262
you'll basically get the page and you can

00:42:56.322 --> 00:42:59.684
see more about the project.

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You can read the first few pages,

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see if it's for you.

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You can see what are the rewards and

00:43:05.547 --> 00:43:08.509
all the extra freebies that are added.

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And you have all my contacts there.

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So that's an easy way to

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find me as well but if you go

00:43:15.112 --> 00:43:18.476
to blue sky bruno caterino is my handle

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uh so basically first last name or

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facebook even though if he's not banned

00:43:25.282 --> 00:43:27.565
this week if i'm not banned this week

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yeah because yeah i i need to leave

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facebook

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But so all his links will be in

00:43:35.068 --> 00:43:36.889
the description of this video.

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As always,

00:43:37.789 --> 00:43:39.710
the Kickstarter link will be in there.

00:43:39.750 --> 00:43:41.510
His blue sky link, his Facebook link,

00:43:41.630 --> 00:43:42.510
all that will be in there.

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And I'm trying to convert my guy over

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to Instagram,

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but my cushion just for Bruno to join

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Instagram has not worked yet.

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I will keep working on that,

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but you can find his link.

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His link's down in the description of this

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video, as always.

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But Bruno,

00:44:01.472 --> 00:44:04.295
it's always a pleasure to have you on

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the USDN.

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Flame Vault feels like the next evolution

00:44:08.657 --> 00:44:09.719
of your storytelling.

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And I cannot wait for readers to

00:44:12.340 --> 00:44:13.601
experience it.

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To everyone watching out there,

00:44:15.262 --> 00:44:16.463
support Indie Comets.

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Back Flame Vault, issue number one.

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And remember,

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this is the United States Department of

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Nerds.

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We're Indie Comets.

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come to life we're out of here and

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we'll see y'all next time thank you see

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you