1 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,125 (upbeat music) 2 01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:03,208 For those of you who are all thinking 3 01:00:03,208 --> 01:00:04,083 that I'm a terrible mom. 4 01:00:04,375 --> 01:00:04,833 You're mid. 5 01:00:05,041 --> 01:00:05,500 I'm mid. 6 01:00:05,750 --> 01:00:06,666 As our kids would say. 7 01:00:07,208 --> 01:00:08,583 I don't, 8 01:00:09,125 --> 01:00:10,000 hair, really? 9 01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:11,166 (laughing) 10 01:00:11,208 --> 01:00:12,125 Go out on date nights? 11 01:00:12,375 --> 01:00:13,208 Oh my gosh, yeah. 12 01:00:13,208 --> 01:00:14,958 You get me in a steakhouse, you and I, 13 01:00:14,958 --> 01:00:15,916 with a glass of wine. 14 01:00:15,916 --> 01:00:17,000 I mean, that's amazing. 15 01:00:17,375 --> 01:00:17,958 You're regardless. 16 01:00:18,750 --> 01:00:19,708 They could smell the 17 01:00:19,708 --> 01:00:21,541 city on me from a mile away. 18 01:00:21,875 --> 01:00:23,458 You know, I've never really 19 01:00:23,458 --> 01:00:24,750 thought about it that way. 20 01:00:25,041 --> 01:00:25,666 You know what? 21 01:00:26,333 --> 01:00:27,791 This is gonna be a judgmental statement. 22 01:00:28,375 --> 01:00:29,791 Literally, the sun was setting 23 01:00:29,791 --> 01:00:31,291 and he drove into the sunset 24 01:00:31,875 --> 01:00:34,208 and I was like, I'm gonna start crying. 25 01:00:34,666 --> 01:00:35,958 16 is revolutionary. 26 01:00:36,333 --> 01:00:37,708 We've got a kid driving now. 27 01:00:37,708 --> 01:00:38,250 Kid driving. 28 01:00:39,208 --> 01:00:39,708 Clearly I've been 29 01:00:39,708 --> 01:00:40,666 talking a lot this week. 30 01:00:41,625 --> 01:00:42,291 I'm getting tongue tied. 31 01:00:42,750 --> 01:00:44,541 It is a little helicopter-ish. 32 01:00:44,958 --> 01:00:46,000 That means we've got a free Saturday. 33 01:00:46,458 --> 01:00:47,875 I cannot get somebody that 34 01:00:47,875 --> 01:00:49,291 fits in the seat next to me. 35 01:00:49,291 --> 01:00:51,750 He had major personal hygiene issues. 36 01:00:52,041 --> 01:00:53,541 I learned from him that Botox 37 01:00:53,666 --> 01:00:55,125 actually stops excessive sweating. 38 01:00:55,625 --> 01:00:56,666 Welcome to the Mr. and 39 01:00:56,666 --> 01:00:57,500 Mrs. English podcast. 40 01:00:58,000 --> 01:00:58,458 I'm Megan. 41 01:00:58,833 --> 01:00:59,375 And I'm Sean. 42 01:00:59,625 --> 01:01:00,708 We're here to talk about 43 01:01:00,708 --> 01:01:02,541 the wild ride of raising kids, 44 01:01:02,541 --> 01:01:04,625 growing careers, keeping life together 45 01:01:04,625 --> 01:01:05,875 in the middle of all the chaos. 46 01:01:06,583 --> 01:01:08,541 So buckle up because we're all 47 01:01:08,541 --> 01:01:09,916 in this crazy journey together. 48 01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:13,166 Well, I'll start off by saying 49 01:01:13,458 --> 01:01:14,791 we're back after missing a week. 50 01:01:14,791 --> 01:01:15,375 Sorry about that. 51 01:01:15,375 --> 01:01:17,041 We'll talk about that maybe a little bit. 52 01:01:17,875 --> 01:01:19,833 And mostly just to say 53 01:01:19,833 --> 01:01:21,416 how much energy I have 54 01:01:21,416 --> 01:01:22,625 and how rested I am is 55 01:01:22,625 --> 01:01:23,791 really what I wanna talk about. 56 01:01:24,208 --> 01:01:24,791 Really? How about you? 57 01:01:25,166 --> 01:01:26,791 Oh, I feel the same way. 58 01:01:27,750 --> 01:01:31,125 I feel rested, restored, and ready to go. 59 01:01:31,125 --> 01:01:32,500 We're going with the alliteration. 60 01:01:33,041 --> 01:01:33,791 Yeah, that was good. 61 01:01:33,791 --> 01:01:35,083 I like that. Yeah, uh-huh. 62 01:01:35,666 --> 01:01:36,916 Alliteration's always one of my favorite 63 01:01:36,916 --> 01:01:37,666 when people do that. 64 01:01:38,541 --> 01:01:40,000 I agree. Ready and rested to go. 65 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:41,833 Wait, ready, rested, and-- 66 01:01:41,958 --> 01:01:42,500 Ready to go. 67 01:01:43,083 --> 01:01:44,208 Oh, ready, oh, that's three. 68 01:01:44,541 --> 01:01:45,208 Yeah, uh-huh. 69 01:01:46,541 --> 01:01:47,500 Nice. I know. 70 01:01:48,208 --> 01:01:48,458 Well done. 71 01:01:49,125 --> 01:01:50,958 I mean, people believe us, right? 72 01:01:50,958 --> 01:01:51,750 Like, we're, I mean, our 73 01:01:51,750 --> 01:01:53,208 acting skills are like-- 74 01:01:53,208 --> 01:01:56,333 Well, I fear we're becoming in danger 75 01:01:56,625 --> 01:01:58,416 of becoming a broken record. 76 01:01:59,125 --> 01:02:00,958 That we are so busy. 77 01:02:01,541 --> 01:02:02,291 I know. 78 01:02:04,375 --> 01:02:06,541 That sometimes we literally 79 01:02:06,541 --> 01:02:08,125 did not have time, I guess, 80 01:02:08,500 --> 01:02:10,416 to fit in the podcast last weekend. 81 01:02:11,125 --> 01:02:12,041 Correct, yeah. 82 01:02:12,583 --> 01:02:13,708 Was last weekend we were in Birmingham? 83 01:02:14,500 --> 01:02:16,458 No, that was two weekends ago. 84 01:02:17,291 --> 01:02:19,000 But last weekend I was in Oklahoma. 85 01:02:20,250 --> 01:02:21,833 Yes, yes. 86 01:02:21,875 --> 01:02:24,458 And I traveled for work both weeks. 87 01:02:25,666 --> 01:02:28,500 And so I was in nine states in nine days. 88 01:02:28,791 --> 01:02:29,583 Yeah, mm-hmm. 89 01:02:30,208 --> 01:02:32,458 Hence why we didn't get a 90 01:02:32,458 --> 01:02:33,500 whole lot of time to sit. 91 01:02:34,500 --> 01:02:35,500 We didn't have time to sit 92 01:02:35,500 --> 01:02:36,375 in the studio and do this. 93 01:02:36,666 --> 01:02:37,416 Maybe we should figure 94 01:02:37,416 --> 01:02:39,458 out how to do it on a Zoom. 95 01:02:40,166 --> 01:02:41,458 I mean, I think-- I thought about that. 96 01:02:41,458 --> 01:02:43,166 All the good ones do it that way. 97 01:02:43,916 --> 01:02:44,750 I thought about that. 98 01:02:44,750 --> 01:02:45,333 Then I could wear my 99 01:02:45,333 --> 01:02:47,458 fancy headphones over there. 100 01:02:48,625 --> 01:02:50,291 Yeah, because you have a couple pairs. 101 01:02:51,041 --> 01:02:52,625 Yeah, we got headphones, we're prepared. 102 01:02:53,250 --> 01:02:54,291 We are well prepared for 103 01:02:54,291 --> 01:02:56,166 this, but not prepared either. 104 01:02:56,208 --> 01:02:57,458 I mean-- Because we couldn't do it. 105 01:02:57,458 --> 01:02:58,791 First off, I've never done that. 106 01:02:58,875 --> 01:03:00,333 I don't know how to do it either. 107 01:03:00,708 --> 01:03:03,708 And secondly, you 108 01:03:03,708 --> 01:03:04,583 still have to fit that in 109 01:03:04,583 --> 01:03:06,041 because you're traveling on business 110 01:03:06,250 --> 01:03:08,416 and the tables have turned. 111 01:03:08,416 --> 01:03:09,500 I traveled for business for-- 112 01:03:10,208 --> 01:03:11,500 20 years. 20 years. 113 01:03:12,291 --> 01:03:15,625 And I don't miss it at all, first off. 114 01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:18,458 Secondly, I do know how 115 01:03:18,458 --> 01:03:19,916 it is when you get that 116 01:03:20,958 --> 01:03:22,875 30 minutes from the end 117 01:03:22,875 --> 01:03:24,333 of the meeting at 4.45 118 01:03:24,333 --> 01:03:24,833 and everybody's like, 119 01:03:24,833 --> 01:03:25,375 "Well, let's go ahead 120 01:03:25,375 --> 01:03:27,750 "and meet downstairs at 5.30." 121 01:03:28,125 --> 01:03:29,291 Yeah, and you're like, 122 01:03:29,291 --> 01:03:30,291 "Great, I have time to go 123 01:03:30,291 --> 01:03:32,083 "to my room, use the 124 01:03:32,083 --> 01:03:33,458 restroom, and then I have to be back." 125 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:38,000 If I let my down at all, 126 01:03:38,333 --> 01:03:39,708 let my energy down at all, 127 01:03:39,708 --> 01:03:40,500 I'm done. Done. 128 01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:41,666 So it's like, "Miles will 129 01:03:41,666 --> 01:03:42,333 just keep going through." 130 01:03:42,666 --> 01:03:44,166 I know. Don't give me an hour off. 131 01:03:44,166 --> 01:03:45,791 Couple times I give you an hour on this. 132 01:03:46,541 --> 01:03:46,833 Mm-hmm. 133 01:03:47,583 --> 01:03:49,208 And then I would lay down. 134 01:03:50,125 --> 01:03:52,416 I do not want to get back up. 135 01:03:52,583 --> 01:03:54,333 I know. Shoes off. 136 01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:56,125 Oh yeah, I don't. 137 01:03:56,125 --> 01:03:56,958 I do not take-- Jack it off 138 01:03:56,958 --> 01:03:57,833 or you don't take your shoes off. 139 01:03:58,416 --> 01:03:58,791 That is-- 140 01:03:59,791 --> 01:04:00,833 It's one of the keys to it. 141 01:04:01,250 --> 01:04:03,583 Well, I don't do this bad often. 142 01:04:04,208 --> 01:04:06,583 You know, what, three times a year maybe? 143 01:04:06,916 --> 01:04:07,083 Yeah. 144 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:08,833 But you're right, no, I 145 01:04:08,833 --> 01:04:09,625 don't take the shoes off. 146 01:04:09,625 --> 01:04:11,000 I don't take the coat off 147 01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:12,041 if I'm wearing a suit coat. 148 01:04:13,041 --> 01:04:14,000 I just can't. 149 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:14,916 Yeah, yeah. 150 01:04:16,791 --> 01:04:19,416 Well, I mean, I don't know 151 01:04:19,416 --> 01:04:20,416 how much we've talked about it. 152 01:04:20,416 --> 01:04:21,583 I don't know if we've talked about it 153 01:04:21,583 --> 01:04:23,625 on this podcast much before, but I mean, 154 01:04:24,208 --> 01:04:24,916 I traveled, you've 155 01:04:24,916 --> 01:04:26,958 traveled plenty in the last month 156 01:04:27,583 --> 01:04:28,708 more than you usually do. 157 01:04:28,708 --> 01:04:29,666 In fact, it kind of affected the 158 01:04:29,666 --> 01:04:30,500 household a little bit. 159 01:04:31,333 --> 01:04:32,125 Needed a mom home. 160 01:04:32,125 --> 01:04:32,791 We're just not used to 161 01:04:32,791 --> 01:04:33,708 not having a mom home. 162 01:04:33,916 --> 01:04:34,291 Great. 163 01:04:34,833 --> 01:04:38,375 And it was tough, but I've always said, 164 01:04:38,375 --> 01:04:39,625 like, you think when you're younger 165 01:04:39,625 --> 01:04:41,000 that traveling's so sexy 166 01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:42,375 and so much fun and all that. 167 01:04:42,875 --> 01:04:44,375 And maybe it's as I'm 168 01:04:44,375 --> 01:04:45,625 older, but even then, 169 01:04:45,958 --> 01:04:47,250 maybe my first two are fun. 170 01:04:47,958 --> 01:04:49,291 It's not fun, like-- 171 01:04:49,333 --> 01:04:50,416 But it's not fun, it's not sexy. 172 01:04:51,166 --> 01:04:53,083 No, there's nothing about it that's fun. 173 01:04:53,083 --> 01:04:53,750 You're like, I'm 174 01:04:53,750 --> 01:04:55,583 exhausted because I've been in 175 01:04:55,791 --> 01:04:58,333 dirty airports and sitting in Ubers and, 176 01:04:59,625 --> 01:05:01,833 I mean, it's just a to-do. 177 01:05:01,958 --> 01:05:02,750 Traveling for work is different 178 01:05:02,750 --> 01:05:03,916 than traveling for vacation. 179 01:05:04,458 --> 01:05:05,041 Oh, totally. 180 01:05:05,375 --> 01:05:06,041 Right, like when you 181 01:05:06,041 --> 01:05:08,333 gotta go to the airport 182 01:05:08,333 --> 01:05:10,250 and you gotta go through security and-- 183 01:05:10,291 --> 01:05:10,500 Yes! 184 01:05:12,500 --> 01:05:13,375 Just kick the table. 185 01:05:13,916 --> 01:05:14,958 You gotta go through security, 186 01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:15,666 you gotta go through all 187 01:05:15,666 --> 01:05:17,291 that kind of stuff for vacation. 188 01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:19,291 It's totally fine, that is 189 01:05:19,291 --> 01:05:21,041 no problem at all, right? 190 01:05:21,708 --> 01:05:23,791 But when you gotta do it for work, 191 01:05:24,166 --> 01:05:25,083 for whatever reason, 192 01:05:25,083 --> 01:05:26,083 because you have to be on, 193 01:05:26,083 --> 01:05:27,500 because you're reading, you're like, 194 01:05:27,916 --> 01:05:29,000 I'm sitting in an airport, 195 01:05:29,833 --> 01:05:30,291 but they're still 196 01:05:30,291 --> 01:05:32,000 expecting me to respond to emails, 197 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,000 and this is part of new life 198 01:05:34,166 --> 01:05:36,791 because we have our email in our hands. 199 01:05:36,791 --> 01:05:37,625 That's exactly right. 200 01:05:38,166 --> 01:05:40,375 You're on, and so now you're on 201 01:05:40,375 --> 01:05:41,041 while you're trying to 202 01:05:41,041 --> 01:05:42,291 travel and you're moving. 203 01:05:42,875 --> 01:05:45,125 Yeah, yeah, it's-- 204 01:05:45,291 --> 01:05:46,125 And then you're planning, 205 01:05:46,125 --> 01:05:47,250 because you're like, I gotta get there, 206 01:05:47,250 --> 01:05:49,500 I gotta get, and then I gotta get to the, 207 01:05:49,875 --> 01:05:51,416 because normally you're never traveling 208 01:05:51,416 --> 01:05:52,458 just to get to a hotel. 209 01:05:53,333 --> 01:05:53,958 Traveling to get to the 210 01:05:53,958 --> 01:05:55,375 move or to some event. 211 01:05:55,833 --> 01:05:56,833 Yeah, there's a reason 212 01:05:56,833 --> 01:05:57,958 you're traveling, right? 213 01:05:57,958 --> 01:05:59,416 It's again, not to get to that hotel, 214 01:05:59,416 --> 01:06:00,208 like you have a meeting, 215 01:06:00,208 --> 01:06:01,666 that you have to go to a customer call, 216 01:06:01,666 --> 01:06:02,583 whatever it happens to be, 217 01:06:02,583 --> 01:06:03,916 whatever line of work you're in, 218 01:06:04,500 --> 01:06:06,291 like that's what you're traveling to, 219 01:06:06,916 --> 01:06:08,666 and it's likely time bound. 220 01:06:09,208 --> 01:06:09,416 Yeah. 221 01:06:11,291 --> 01:06:12,583 Yeah, so for whatever reason, 222 01:06:12,666 --> 01:06:14,916 it's just way more stressful, I think, 223 01:06:15,666 --> 01:06:16,458 than it is for, 224 01:06:16,458 --> 01:06:17,166 because people are like, oh, 225 01:06:17,166 --> 01:06:18,750 I don't find traveling stressful. 226 01:06:19,375 --> 01:06:21,500 Well, anything other than 227 01:06:21,500 --> 01:06:23,708 work is not that stressful, 228 01:06:23,875 --> 01:06:25,083 really, I don't find it to be, 229 01:06:25,083 --> 01:06:27,500 but it is exhausting to travel for work, 230 01:06:27,500 --> 01:06:28,166 for whatever reason, 231 01:06:28,166 --> 01:06:29,000 I did it for 20 years, 232 01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:32,250 you've been doing it pretty consistently, 233 01:06:32,250 --> 01:06:33,583 just not nearly as much. 234 01:06:33,750 --> 01:06:34,333 Right, right. 235 01:06:36,208 --> 01:06:37,708 I kinda say I would average 236 01:06:37,708 --> 01:06:40,208 three to four times a year 237 01:06:40,208 --> 01:06:41,500 over the last five years. 238 01:06:41,708 --> 01:06:42,791 But yours is a little 239 01:06:42,791 --> 01:06:44,083 bit more sexy than mine. 240 01:06:45,416 --> 01:06:45,458 (laughing) 241 01:06:45,458 --> 01:06:47,625 I always say mine wasn't sexy, 242 01:06:47,625 --> 01:06:48,875 so I might not be the norm 243 01:06:48,875 --> 01:06:49,375 for people that 244 01:06:49,375 --> 01:06:50,458 travel a lot for business, 245 01:06:50,833 --> 01:06:53,708 but because I was in agribusiness, 246 01:06:53,708 --> 01:06:55,041 I financed large food 247 01:06:55,041 --> 01:06:56,291 and agribusiness companies, 248 01:06:56,666 --> 01:06:58,250 I would travel around to 249 01:06:58,250 --> 01:06:59,666 where those areas are located. 250 01:07:00,666 --> 01:07:01,166 Which apparently. 251 01:07:02,208 --> 01:07:02,833 Usually it's not, 252 01:07:03,708 --> 01:07:07,875 I wasn't ever going to a downtown city, 253 01:07:08,125 --> 01:07:08,666 you know what I mean? 254 01:07:08,666 --> 01:07:09,958 Unless there was some equity firms, 255 01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:11,208 and larger firms, 256 01:07:11,583 --> 01:07:13,000 investment firms that we would go to. 257 01:07:13,208 --> 01:07:14,250 I had a couple in New 258 01:07:14,250 --> 01:07:15,541 York City and some in LA. 259 01:07:16,291 --> 01:07:17,166 So I did get some of those 260 01:07:17,166 --> 01:07:18,083 ones, they were kinda fun, 261 01:07:18,083 --> 01:07:19,125 but even then it was exhausting, 262 01:07:19,125 --> 01:07:20,666 it was so late in my career. 263 01:07:21,416 --> 01:07:22,000 Cause it's like, oh, we 264 01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:23,125 gotta go to the big dinner. 265 01:07:23,500 --> 01:07:23,750 Yes. 266 01:07:24,416 --> 01:07:25,333 And big dinners are fun. 267 01:07:25,916 --> 01:07:26,375 We are. 268 01:07:26,708 --> 01:07:27,791 But they're exhausting, 269 01:07:27,791 --> 01:07:28,875 especially for an introvert. 270 01:07:30,458 --> 01:07:34,208 I totally agree, and I am an extrovert, 271 01:07:34,708 --> 01:07:37,708 but even I find it exhausting after a 272 01:07:37,708 --> 01:07:38,625 certain amount of time. 273 01:07:38,666 --> 01:07:40,750 It's just like, okay, I'm done. 274 01:07:42,083 --> 01:07:43,750 In business dinners, well, 275 01:07:43,750 --> 01:07:45,958 you would go on really fancy 276 01:07:46,083 --> 01:07:48,083 dinners, I'd say, you'll be like, 277 01:07:48,083 --> 01:07:49,625 I have to go to another steakhouse. 278 01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:51,500 Cause I would normally be 279 01:07:51,500 --> 01:07:54,500 meeting with investors, bankers, 280 01:07:55,125 --> 01:07:57,916 or business owners to talk about a deal 281 01:07:58,125 --> 01:07:59,416 that was in the works of 282 01:07:59,416 --> 01:08:00,583 some sort, or a client, 283 01:08:00,833 --> 01:08:04,333 but same menu of people. 284 01:08:04,500 --> 01:08:04,750 Right. 285 01:08:05,041 --> 01:08:05,583 Whereas you're 286 01:08:05,583 --> 01:08:06,500 usually meeting with people 287 01:08:06,583 --> 01:08:07,666 within your own company. 288 01:08:07,750 --> 01:08:08,833 That's absolutely right. 289 01:08:09,250 --> 01:08:09,958 Thank goodness, I'd be 290 01:08:09,958 --> 01:08:11,000 terrible in front of a customer. 291 01:08:11,791 --> 01:08:13,000 But, I mean, you would 292 01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:13,916 have these nice dinners 293 01:08:14,333 --> 01:08:16,916 and whatever, but it's different. 294 01:08:16,916 --> 01:08:17,625 Like when we go out on 295 01:08:17,625 --> 01:08:19,125 date nights, oh my gosh, yeah, 296 01:08:19,125 --> 01:08:20,875 you get me in a steakhouse, you and I, 297 01:08:20,875 --> 01:08:21,875 with a glass of wine, 298 01:08:21,875 --> 01:08:22,875 I mean, that's amazing. 299 01:08:23,083 --> 01:08:24,541 That's actually ideal. 300 01:08:25,166 --> 01:08:26,208 I look forward to that. 301 01:08:26,500 --> 01:08:28,208 But when you're in a business setting, 302 01:08:28,208 --> 01:08:29,500 whether it's with a 303 01:08:29,500 --> 01:08:31,416 client, or whether it's even 304 01:08:31,625 --> 01:08:33,583 in your own company, it's 305 01:08:33,583 --> 01:08:35,416 not like you're just talking, 306 01:08:35,416 --> 01:08:36,208 right, you're strategic 307 01:08:36,208 --> 01:08:37,458 about what you're saying 308 01:08:37,708 --> 01:08:41,208 and how to frame conversations. 309 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:43,708 And if I use this anecdote, 310 01:08:44,125 --> 01:08:46,375 what does that say about me? 311 01:08:46,416 --> 01:08:47,833 Right, constantly. 312 01:08:48,416 --> 01:08:49,333 Or how can I angle to 313 01:08:49,333 --> 01:08:51,416 get to this conversation, 314 01:08:52,041 --> 01:08:53,833 or this point, or whatever? 315 01:08:54,208 --> 01:08:55,916 It is hard. 316 01:08:55,958 --> 01:08:57,000 That's constantly where I was, 317 01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:58,000 because later in my career 318 01:08:58,000 --> 01:08:59,583 I was a manager of bankers. 319 01:09:00,500 --> 01:09:01,875 And so I was constantly 320 01:09:01,875 --> 01:09:03,541 flipping ahead of the conversation 321 01:09:03,791 --> 01:09:05,250 to be like, all right, we 322 01:09:05,250 --> 01:09:06,166 need to get this conversation 323 01:09:06,458 --> 01:09:07,291 to this point, because we 324 01:09:07,291 --> 01:09:08,416 need to get on this topic, 325 01:09:08,416 --> 01:09:09,333 we need to ask them about 326 01:09:09,333 --> 01:09:10,583 this, we gotta get here, 327 01:09:10,583 --> 01:09:12,208 I need to set him up for this, 328 01:09:12,708 --> 01:09:13,833 or oh, I need to dive a 329 01:09:13,833 --> 01:09:15,166 little bit deeper into that. 330 01:09:16,041 --> 01:09:17,750 And then also you don't 331 01:09:17,750 --> 01:09:20,166 wanna open Pandora's box, 332 01:09:20,166 --> 01:09:21,500 be like, oh, did I say that wrong? 333 01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:23,958 Do it, oh, was I incorrect about that? 334 01:09:24,708 --> 01:09:25,500 There's just so much 335 01:09:25,500 --> 01:09:27,125 mental gymnastics going on 336 01:09:27,125 --> 01:09:27,958 at those dinner tables. 337 01:09:28,583 --> 01:09:29,583 Granted, it was a great 338 01:09:29,583 --> 01:09:31,166 steak and great wine for me 339 01:09:31,166 --> 01:09:32,000 at those tables. 340 01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:36,458 But always, that was 341 01:09:36,458 --> 01:09:37,458 actually the easy part 342 01:09:38,083 --> 01:09:40,416 as a banker, for me as an introvert too. 343 01:09:41,250 --> 01:09:43,791 It was talking about talking that way. 344 01:09:43,791 --> 01:09:44,791 The hard part was when 345 01:09:44,791 --> 01:09:45,791 people would sit down 346 01:09:46,250 --> 01:09:49,083 and wanna just chit chat a 347 01:09:49,083 --> 01:09:50,083 little bit more personal. 348 01:09:50,583 --> 01:09:52,583 And I got better at that, but 349 01:09:52,583 --> 01:09:55,041 because it was agribusiness, 350 01:09:56,083 --> 01:09:57,916 a lot of the people, even on, 351 01:09:58,833 --> 01:10:01,375 I didn't do production ag, right? 352 01:10:01,708 --> 01:10:02,958 That was kinda smaller 353 01:10:02,958 --> 01:10:04,708 loans, we would do loans like, 354 01:10:05,958 --> 01:10:07,000 the smallest one we would do 355 01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:08,250 is generally like 20 million, 356 01:10:08,458 --> 01:10:09,041 something like that. 357 01:10:09,041 --> 01:10:10,125 And then we would do syndicated deals 358 01:10:10,125 --> 01:10:11,708 up to like two billion, right? 359 01:10:11,708 --> 01:10:13,250 So we would do loans that are 50 million 360 01:10:13,416 --> 01:10:16,166 or 100 million, whatever it is like that. 361 01:10:16,166 --> 01:10:18,041 So fairly sophisticated 362 01:10:18,041 --> 01:10:19,291 business people, right? 363 01:10:19,291 --> 01:10:21,666 They're business savvy, they're smart, 364 01:10:21,875 --> 01:10:23,291 most of these people are well educated, 365 01:10:24,250 --> 01:10:26,458 but a lot of them came from ag at some 366 01:10:26,458 --> 01:10:27,291 point in their life. 367 01:10:27,291 --> 01:10:28,208 Some of them grew up on a 368 01:10:28,208 --> 01:10:29,500 farm or grew up doing this, 369 01:10:29,500 --> 01:10:30,791 that's why they went into that. 370 01:10:31,125 --> 01:10:33,000 Or some of them have 371 01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:33,958 been in their whole lives 372 01:10:33,958 --> 01:10:34,958 with their family farm, 373 01:10:35,166 --> 01:10:39,125 but their parents made them go to school. 374 01:10:40,458 --> 01:10:41,375 So I would be speaking, 375 01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:42,750 so a lot of these guys 376 01:10:42,750 --> 01:10:43,791 have, they've been in ag. 377 01:10:44,625 --> 01:10:45,875 So they could, anybody 378 01:10:45,875 --> 01:10:46,791 that's been in agriculture, 379 01:10:47,416 --> 01:10:47,791 and a lot of the 380 01:10:47,791 --> 01:10:48,791 bankers that I worked with 381 01:10:48,791 --> 01:10:50,083 and that I hired, why not, 382 01:10:50,083 --> 01:10:51,666 they grew up on a farm too somehow, 383 01:10:51,666 --> 01:10:54,208 but went to school, they've got masters, 384 01:10:54,208 --> 01:10:56,750 whatever it might be, very educated, 385 01:10:56,750 --> 01:10:57,250 but a lot of them 386 01:10:57,250 --> 01:10:58,375 have that ag background, 387 01:10:58,541 --> 01:10:59,750 which I never came from. 388 01:11:00,333 --> 01:11:02,291 And no matter how long I was in it, 389 01:11:02,291 --> 01:11:04,333 I knew the industries very well, 390 01:11:04,333 --> 01:11:05,291 I could speak to it, I 391 01:11:05,291 --> 01:11:06,416 could speak to the bank side. 392 01:11:07,083 --> 01:11:08,166 So I had my credibility 393 01:11:08,166 --> 01:11:10,458 there, but irregardless, 394 01:11:11,041 --> 01:11:12,083 they could smell the 395 01:11:12,083 --> 01:11:14,000 city on me from a mile away. 396 01:11:15,166 --> 01:11:16,750 And I wasn't a sexy, 397 01:11:17,125 --> 01:11:18,333 I'm not one of these sexy, 398 01:11:18,666 --> 01:11:21,333 Manhattan, Wall Street 399 01:11:21,333 --> 01:11:23,583 banker, no, not at all, not at all. 400 01:11:23,833 --> 01:11:24,458 I could never have 401 01:11:24,458 --> 01:11:25,500 survived in that world, 402 01:11:25,916 --> 01:11:27,000 because that's just not my personality. 403 01:11:28,500 --> 01:11:31,500 But when I'm sitting there at a table, 404 01:11:32,333 --> 01:11:33,166 and you wanna talk 405 01:11:33,166 --> 01:11:35,375 about, all they know is like, 406 01:11:35,666 --> 01:11:37,166 being on the farm, or 407 01:11:37,166 --> 01:11:39,500 talking about commodities, 408 01:11:39,916 --> 01:11:42,083 or what about the acidity of the, 409 01:11:42,083 --> 01:11:43,916 what was the pH balance of that soil? 410 01:11:44,416 --> 01:11:45,375 Not that we ever, like I said, again, 411 01:11:45,375 --> 01:11:46,541 I never did farmers, right? 412 01:11:46,541 --> 01:11:47,000 That was kind of 413 01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,000 smaller, more granular, loans, 414 01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:50,375 I never did production lending. 415 01:11:51,166 --> 01:11:52,291 But irregardless, and I 416 01:11:52,291 --> 01:11:53,583 kind of always got back to 417 01:11:54,125 --> 01:11:55,333 the basics like that sometimes. 418 01:11:55,958 --> 01:11:56,541 We're talking about 419 01:11:56,541 --> 01:11:57,458 different kinds of cattle. 420 01:11:57,791 --> 01:11:58,458 We did a lot of cattle 421 01:11:58,458 --> 01:12:00,416 loans, and I was not a cattle guy. 422 01:12:01,291 --> 01:12:03,500 Great cattle lenders on my team, right? 423 01:12:03,500 --> 01:12:04,458 That could run with it. 424 01:12:04,791 --> 01:12:05,958 And that was always the one 425 01:12:05,958 --> 01:12:07,291 I always felt so bad about. 426 01:12:07,541 --> 01:12:07,875 Really? 427 01:12:07,875 --> 01:12:09,666 I'm like, I just can't add a lot of value 428 01:12:09,750 --> 01:12:10,750 talking about cattle. 429 01:12:11,708 --> 01:12:15,125 I don't care, really. 430 01:12:16,625 --> 01:12:18,666 (laughing) I mean, it's a fascinating industry, 431 01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:20,125 fascinating, great people, 432 01:12:20,125 --> 01:12:20,958 and all that kind of stuff, 433 01:12:20,958 --> 01:12:23,208 but I just, I didn't grow up in it. 434 01:12:23,583 --> 01:12:25,708 So I'm just not passionate about that. 435 01:12:25,708 --> 01:12:26,958 And that's partially why I got out of it, 436 01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:28,000 because I'm doing what I'm doing now. 437 01:12:28,041 --> 01:12:28,583 Absolutely. 438 01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:30,541 Get into something that you do love. 439 01:12:30,583 --> 01:12:30,791 Right. 440 01:12:31,875 --> 01:12:33,041 So long story short, yeah, I 441 01:12:33,041 --> 01:12:34,500 did, I had some great dinners, 442 01:12:34,750 --> 01:12:35,500 but it was always tough 443 01:12:35,500 --> 01:12:36,500 when they wanted to talk, 444 01:12:36,750 --> 01:12:37,666 not shop, I'd rather 445 01:12:37,666 --> 01:12:38,916 talk shop all night long, 446 01:12:38,916 --> 01:12:39,833 because I can talk shop. 447 01:12:40,541 --> 01:12:42,083 What I can't do, it's very 448 01:12:42,083 --> 01:12:43,666 difficult for an introvert 449 01:12:43,916 --> 01:12:44,791 to try to find common 450 01:12:44,791 --> 01:12:46,500 ground from someone who just has 451 01:12:46,500 --> 01:12:47,250 more of that ag 452 01:12:47,250 --> 01:12:49,916 background, and they're wearing boots 453 01:12:49,916 --> 01:12:50,541 with their suits. 454 01:12:50,791 --> 01:12:51,000 Right. 455 01:12:51,333 --> 01:12:51,916 You know what I mean? 456 01:12:52,333 --> 01:12:55,375 So still true ag underneath a tie. 457 01:12:56,041 --> 01:12:57,291 Right, that's true, yeah. 458 01:12:57,708 --> 01:13:00,083 You can dress up the cowboy boots, but. 459 01:13:01,416 --> 01:13:02,333 There was a time I-- 460 01:13:02,333 --> 01:13:03,000 You're still there. 461 01:13:03,250 --> 01:13:04,833 I have a pair of, not boots, 462 01:13:05,041 --> 01:13:06,250 because I could never wear boots, 463 01:13:06,458 --> 01:13:07,250 but I have a pair that 464 01:13:07,250 --> 01:13:08,166 kind of look like boots 465 01:13:08,250 --> 01:13:10,041 underneath jeans, right? 466 01:13:10,958 --> 01:13:12,500 And I wore them one time, 467 01:13:12,791 --> 01:13:13,791 and someone laughed at me, 468 01:13:13,791 --> 01:13:14,500 because there's not a 469 01:13:14,500 --> 01:13:15,541 scuff on them, right? 470 01:13:15,541 --> 01:13:16,750 And I'm like, I realized I should, 471 01:13:16,750 --> 01:13:18,291 I actually tried to scuff them up a 472 01:13:18,291 --> 01:13:19,291 little bit before I went, 473 01:13:19,291 --> 01:13:20,500 I got out of the car, kicked 474 01:13:20,500 --> 01:13:21,791 them, put some dirt on them, 475 01:13:22,625 --> 01:13:24,000 because they look so green. 476 01:13:25,250 --> 01:13:26,250 Oh my gosh. 477 01:13:26,291 --> 01:13:27,000 But that's where it is, 478 01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:28,250 like you could smell the city on me. 479 01:13:28,583 --> 01:13:28,791 Yeah. 480 01:13:29,875 --> 01:13:33,000 And, I mean, you don't, 481 01:13:33,291 --> 01:13:34,708 it's hard to then find 482 01:13:34,833 --> 01:13:36,708 that common background when you're like, 483 01:13:37,250 --> 01:13:38,333 you were raised on a farm, 484 01:13:38,833 --> 01:13:39,958 I was raised in the suburbs, 485 01:13:40,250 --> 01:13:42,250 like there is a difference. 486 01:13:42,791 --> 01:13:44,541 And I come from a family of farmers, 487 01:13:45,041 --> 01:13:47,000 like I think about my mom's 488 01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:48,000 cousins and things like that, 489 01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:49,958 they literally live on a farm. 490 01:13:51,083 --> 01:13:52,333 And they're like, oh, I have 491 01:13:52,333 --> 01:13:53,458 nothing, I don't understand. 492 01:13:54,166 --> 01:13:56,250 Right, because you grew up adjacent, 493 01:13:56,458 --> 01:13:58,041 farm adjacent with family, 494 01:13:58,333 --> 01:13:59,666 adjacent family out of farm, 495 01:13:59,666 --> 01:14:01,375 but not even, not your nucleus family 496 01:14:01,375 --> 01:14:02,208 didn't grow up in a farm. 497 01:14:02,250 --> 01:14:03,500 No, gosh, no. 498 01:14:03,791 --> 01:14:05,125 So it's just a different life. 499 01:14:05,166 --> 01:14:05,708 It is. 500 01:14:05,958 --> 01:14:07,875 And once you get to that level, 501 01:14:07,875 --> 01:14:08,458 it's not like, I would 502 01:14:08,458 --> 01:14:09,541 much rather talk about, 503 01:14:09,541 --> 01:14:10,083 you wanna talk about your 504 01:14:10,083 --> 01:14:11,083 kids, how are your kids doing? 505 01:14:11,083 --> 01:14:12,125 I can talk about that all day long. 506 01:14:12,166 --> 01:14:13,291 You talk about that, yeah. 507 01:14:13,291 --> 01:14:15,625 But it always went to just 508 01:14:15,625 --> 01:14:17,333 ag, you know what I mean? 509 01:14:17,333 --> 01:14:17,541 Like, do you wanna 510 01:14:17,541 --> 01:14:19,000 talk about the economy, 511 01:14:19,250 --> 01:14:20,541 like how it's affecting the economy, 512 01:14:20,541 --> 01:14:22,541 or these tariffs are affecting our trade? 513 01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:23,625 Like, let's talk about 514 01:14:23,625 --> 01:14:25,416 that, shop, shop, you know? 515 01:14:25,416 --> 01:14:25,833 Right, right. 516 01:14:25,833 --> 01:14:27,666 But I cannot talk about, you know, 517 01:14:27,666 --> 01:14:30,791 just how healthy that cow looked. 518 01:14:31,666 --> 01:14:32,458 I can't tell you, I mean, 519 01:14:32,458 --> 01:14:33,541 I can't tell you how healthy that looks, 520 01:14:34,041 --> 01:14:35,000 I learned it over 521 01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:36,041 time, you know what I mean? 522 01:14:36,541 --> 01:14:37,666 I couldn't tell you how healthy cow. 523 01:14:38,833 --> 01:14:40,000 That was too long of 524 01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:41,125 a, all that'll get cut. 525 01:14:42,166 --> 01:14:44,958 But yeah, dinners are, 526 01:14:45,166 --> 01:14:46,250 the dinners are good, 527 01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:48,125 but you don't go to, so you 528 01:14:48,125 --> 01:14:49,083 don't get those nice steak 529 01:14:49,083 --> 01:14:49,708 dinners when you're 530 01:14:49,708 --> 01:14:50,791 out with your company? 531 01:14:51,833 --> 01:14:53,291 You're at a leadership one this time, 532 01:14:53,291 --> 01:14:54,666 which is very high up people. 533 01:14:55,458 --> 01:14:56,333 They didn't pull out, at 534 01:14:56,333 --> 01:14:58,625 least the semi-red carpet? 535 01:14:59,875 --> 01:15:00,833 I think part of it is 536 01:15:00,833 --> 01:15:02,208 because I'm not having 537 01:15:02,583 --> 01:15:03,875 those intimate dinners 538 01:15:03,875 --> 01:15:05,625 with just a handful of people, 539 01:15:05,625 --> 01:15:06,958 usually if I'm traveling, 540 01:15:06,958 --> 01:15:09,916 it's with a group of 20 or 25, 541 01:15:10,750 --> 01:15:12,916 you know, or more, right? 542 01:15:12,916 --> 01:15:13,583 Like, that's probably 543 01:15:13,583 --> 01:15:15,208 the least amount of people? 544 01:15:15,208 --> 01:15:16,416 Yeah, and that's a $6,000. 545 01:15:16,625 --> 01:15:17,625 And so you're like, 546 01:15:17,625 --> 01:15:19,291 no, you're eating at a, 547 01:15:19,708 --> 01:15:21,375 yeah, so you don't do that. 548 01:15:21,500 --> 01:15:22,250 So you're going to get Mexican. 549 01:15:23,083 --> 01:15:24,000 Exactly, right? 550 01:15:24,333 --> 01:15:25,791 Or the, I would say 551 01:15:25,791 --> 01:15:26,750 they do a great job of, 552 01:15:27,041 --> 01:15:28,041 if you're, yeah, 553 01:15:28,208 --> 01:15:29,708 something that's maybe local fare 554 01:15:29,708 --> 01:15:30,916 or something like that. 555 01:15:32,250 --> 01:15:33,958 But no, because I mean, 556 01:15:33,958 --> 01:15:34,750 you'd probably be going 557 01:15:34,750 --> 01:15:36,375 with what, maybe five people total? 558 01:15:37,791 --> 01:15:38,833 Yeah, at most it'd be like 559 01:15:38,833 --> 01:15:40,375 10, 12, at the very most. 560 01:15:40,625 --> 01:15:41,708 But generally it's more intimate, 561 01:15:41,708 --> 01:15:42,875 it'd be five of us or so. 562 01:15:43,375 --> 01:15:46,583 And I rarely, I don't 563 01:15:46,583 --> 01:15:47,625 even remember the last time, 564 01:15:47,625 --> 01:15:48,958 it was less than 10. 565 01:15:49,833 --> 01:15:51,500 So that's the difference. 566 01:15:52,333 --> 01:15:54,291 I am sure at the higher levels 567 01:15:54,291 --> 01:15:56,291 that those nice steak dinners happen. 568 01:15:56,708 --> 01:15:58,708 So when it's only five to 10 of us, 569 01:15:58,708 --> 01:16:00,000 it's always kind of, you're 570 01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:01,875 always kind of figuring out 571 01:16:01,875 --> 01:16:03,166 your seating a little bit in 572 01:16:03,166 --> 01:16:04,250 your head beforehand, right? 573 01:16:04,250 --> 01:16:05,916 It's like, I know as 574 01:16:05,916 --> 01:16:07,333 the, when I was the manager, 575 01:16:07,333 --> 01:16:08,083 like I need to sit next 576 01:16:08,083 --> 01:16:09,458 to a decision maker, right? 577 01:16:09,708 --> 01:16:10,458 Kind of the guy 578 01:16:10,458 --> 01:16:11,375 that's making the decision. 579 01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,208 So I always make sure, like I 580 01:16:14,208 --> 01:16:16,166 wouldn't sit before they sat 581 01:16:16,166 --> 01:16:17,625 and I'd kind of maneuver myself. 582 01:16:17,666 --> 01:16:18,916 And even the team 583 01:16:18,916 --> 01:16:19,958 knows that kind of like, 584 01:16:19,958 --> 01:16:22,125 oh, like I would talk with 585 01:16:22,125 --> 01:16:23,500 some of our like teammates, 586 01:16:23,500 --> 01:16:24,291 we would kind of a little, 587 01:16:24,500 --> 01:16:25,541 we kind of have a game plan 588 01:16:25,541 --> 01:16:26,666 on kind of who would sit next, 589 01:16:26,666 --> 01:16:28,666 make sure you get close to him or her or 590 01:16:28,666 --> 01:16:29,333 whatever it might be. 591 01:16:29,625 --> 01:16:30,500 How does that work for you? 592 01:16:31,541 --> 01:16:33,708 You just sit wherever you want. 593 01:16:33,875 --> 01:16:35,208 Seriously, you don't have any, 594 01:16:35,208 --> 01:16:36,125 there's nothing behind it. 595 01:16:36,125 --> 01:16:37,208 Like, hey, maybe, you 596 01:16:37,208 --> 01:16:38,583 know, internal credibility, 597 01:16:38,583 --> 01:16:40,125 internal brand. 598 01:16:42,916 --> 01:16:43,541 You know what? 599 01:16:44,208 --> 01:16:45,666 This is gonna be a judgmental statement. 600 01:16:46,708 --> 01:16:48,458 I think maybe at really high 601 01:16:48,458 --> 01:16:50,250 up levels, yes, that happens. 602 01:16:50,500 --> 01:16:51,208 You're gonna say you don't 603 01:16:51,208 --> 01:16:52,000 like people that do that. 604 01:16:52,416 --> 01:16:53,583 But no, I'm gonna say that 605 01:16:53,583 --> 01:16:57,000 people who are very much, 606 01:16:58,083 --> 01:16:59,583 maybe a climber and they 607 01:16:59,583 --> 01:17:00,875 really like that vertical. 608 01:17:01,083 --> 01:17:01,791 That's exactly what I said. 609 01:17:01,791 --> 01:17:02,291 You're not gonna like 610 01:17:02,291 --> 01:17:03,000 people that do that. 611 01:17:03,458 --> 01:17:05,416 I mean, it's not that I don't like them. 612 01:17:05,875 --> 01:17:06,333 Yeah, I was like, it's 613 01:17:06,333 --> 01:17:07,083 not that I don't like them. 614 01:17:07,083 --> 01:17:08,458 I'm just not one of those people. 615 01:17:08,875 --> 01:17:11,041 Yeah, that doesn't sit right with you. 616 01:17:11,041 --> 01:17:13,125 Based on your morals and how you wanna 617 01:17:13,875 --> 01:17:14,666 climb the corporate ladder. 618 01:17:14,708 --> 01:17:15,916 Right, if I happen to be 619 01:17:15,916 --> 01:17:17,000 sitting next to someone 620 01:17:17,541 --> 01:17:18,833 who is really high 621 01:17:18,833 --> 01:17:20,000 up, you know, obviously, 622 01:17:20,041 --> 01:17:20,958 that's just fine. 623 01:17:21,541 --> 01:17:22,041 It's probably just 624 01:17:22,041 --> 01:17:23,416 happened to be where I sat down 625 01:17:23,416 --> 01:17:24,000 or that was the only thing. 626 01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:24,500 No need to brown nose. 627 01:17:25,333 --> 01:17:25,583 Yeah. 628 01:17:25,625 --> 01:17:25,916 Right. 629 01:17:26,875 --> 01:17:27,791 You're gonna make it on your own 630 01:17:27,791 --> 01:17:28,833 and if they wanna sit by 631 01:17:28,833 --> 01:17:29,791 you, they'll seek you out. 632 01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:30,666 Right, right. 633 01:17:30,666 --> 01:17:31,625 Because you got a lot of people probably, 634 01:17:32,750 --> 01:17:34,000 I don't wanna say it, but I mean, 635 01:17:35,500 --> 01:17:36,000 what do you think? 636 01:17:36,291 --> 01:17:37,250 Half of the people, how 637 01:17:37,250 --> 01:17:38,291 many people that you work with, 638 01:17:39,250 --> 01:17:39,791 well, I don't wanna put 639 01:17:39,791 --> 01:17:40,666 you on a bad spot there, 640 01:17:40,750 --> 01:17:42,916 but I think there's 641 01:17:42,916 --> 01:17:45,333 enough people that are vying 642 01:17:45,541 --> 01:17:47,125 for those seats next to people, 643 01:17:47,791 --> 01:17:48,833 important, quote unquote. 644 01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:49,666 Absolutely. 645 01:17:49,708 --> 01:17:50,500 That you're kind of in 646 01:17:50,500 --> 01:17:51,625 competition with them. 647 01:17:52,500 --> 01:17:52,666 Probably. 648 01:17:53,041 --> 01:17:54,583 And as the decision maker, 649 01:17:54,875 --> 01:17:55,500 they're probably 650 01:17:55,500 --> 01:17:57,458 aware of that too, right? 651 01:17:59,416 --> 01:18:01,041 Probably, I would think so. 652 01:18:02,333 --> 01:18:03,083 I would think so. 653 01:18:03,583 --> 01:18:05,166 And I mean, you do have to think about 654 01:18:05,166 --> 01:18:05,791 your corporate brand 655 01:18:05,791 --> 01:18:06,958 and you have to, you do. 656 01:18:06,958 --> 01:18:08,750 Like that's all part of your career 657 01:18:08,916 --> 01:18:11,833 and managing your own career, right? 658 01:18:12,958 --> 01:18:14,000 I'm just someone who 659 01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:16,041 would rather do it organically 660 01:18:16,833 --> 01:18:18,875 through kind of that day to day and 661 01:18:18,875 --> 01:18:20,750 that's just who I am. 662 01:18:20,750 --> 01:18:22,791 That's how I've operated my whole career. 663 01:18:24,125 --> 01:18:25,333 Do you think that sets you back at all 664 01:18:25,958 --> 01:18:27,125 to people that do it the other way? 665 01:18:27,750 --> 01:18:29,625 Or in the end, it evens out? 666 01:18:31,250 --> 01:18:35,333 I truly believe in the end, it evens out. 667 01:18:36,958 --> 01:18:37,625 I like to think that 668 01:18:37,625 --> 01:18:38,416 the cream of the crop 669 01:18:38,583 --> 01:18:39,583 always rises, right? 670 01:18:39,708 --> 01:18:40,166 Right. 671 01:18:40,208 --> 01:18:40,958 You're regardless of 672 01:18:40,958 --> 01:18:42,208 if you seek somebody out 673 01:18:42,208 --> 01:18:43,000 and you're constantly 674 01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:43,666 trying to put yourself 675 01:18:43,666 --> 01:18:44,208 in the spotlight. 676 01:18:44,791 --> 01:18:46,458 Right, I really do. 677 01:18:47,166 --> 01:18:48,791 I think that really does happen. 678 01:18:49,416 --> 01:18:51,125 And I talk a lot about 679 01:18:51,125 --> 01:18:52,125 like careers at Jungle Gym. 680 01:18:52,541 --> 01:18:54,500 Like sometimes you're going to the side, 681 01:18:54,500 --> 01:18:55,500 sometimes you go backwards, 682 01:18:55,708 --> 01:18:56,791 sometimes, you know, like. 683 01:18:57,500 --> 01:18:59,166 And I don't know, just 684 01:18:59,166 --> 01:19:01,375 for me and how I manage it, 685 01:19:01,375 --> 01:19:03,000 it just has to be organic. 686 01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:03,583 Hopefully it's through 687 01:19:03,583 --> 01:19:05,333 the daily or, you know, 688 01:19:05,416 --> 01:19:07,291 however often I have to 689 01:19:07,291 --> 01:19:08,625 interact with somebody 690 01:19:09,291 --> 01:19:10,916 in a regular setting. 691 01:19:10,916 --> 01:19:11,166 Yeah. 692 01:19:12,041 --> 01:19:14,583 That's how I actually want it to be. 693 01:19:15,083 --> 01:19:16,375 That's how I want my 694 01:19:16,375 --> 01:19:17,458 corporate brand to be. 695 01:19:17,458 --> 01:19:18,750 Not like, oh, they sat next 696 01:19:18,750 --> 01:19:19,708 to me at a dinner one time 697 01:19:19,708 --> 01:19:20,708 and she was impressive. 698 01:19:21,208 --> 01:19:21,416 Like. 699 01:19:22,041 --> 01:19:22,750 Right, because then 700 01:19:22,750 --> 01:19:24,583 that turns into favoritism 701 01:19:25,208 --> 01:19:26,541 and you know, these kind of things, 702 01:19:26,750 --> 01:19:30,375 which, you know, in my old career, 703 01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:32,583 that happened all the time. 704 01:19:33,083 --> 01:19:34,083 Where it was like, oh, 705 01:19:34,083 --> 01:19:35,750 good old buddy, this and that. 706 01:19:35,750 --> 01:19:36,458 Oh, he brings that. 707 01:19:36,916 --> 01:19:38,166 He gets his raise, he 708 01:19:38,166 --> 01:19:39,208 brings his team with him, 709 01:19:39,208 --> 01:19:40,541 he brings these people with him. 710 01:19:40,958 --> 01:19:41,750 And there were people that 711 01:19:41,750 --> 01:19:42,708 were just making their way 712 01:19:42,708 --> 01:19:43,375 up the ladder. 713 01:19:43,375 --> 01:19:43,958 That was like, they 714 01:19:43,958 --> 01:19:45,125 should not be making their way 715 01:19:45,125 --> 01:19:45,958 up the ladder. 716 01:19:46,333 --> 01:19:46,791 It's because they 717 01:19:46,791 --> 01:19:48,041 know this guy, you know, 718 01:19:48,041 --> 01:19:49,166 or whatever it might've been. 719 01:19:49,625 --> 01:19:50,250 Or there would be 720 01:19:50,250 --> 01:19:51,500 people that, as you know, 721 01:19:51,958 --> 01:19:53,625 are just very good 722 01:19:55,333 --> 01:19:55,500 climbers. 723 01:19:56,458 --> 01:19:57,208 Oh, yeah. 724 01:19:57,583 --> 01:19:59,375 They put a face forward. 725 01:19:59,625 --> 01:20:00,166 And I dealt with 726 01:20:00,166 --> 01:20:01,333 credit guys like this a lot. 727 01:20:01,333 --> 01:20:01,750 There was one in 728 01:20:01,750 --> 01:20:02,500 particular that I remember like, 729 01:20:03,041 --> 01:20:05,208 what you see is not even 730 01:20:05,208 --> 01:20:07,583 close to what is reality. 731 01:20:07,708 --> 01:20:08,083 Right. 732 01:20:08,083 --> 01:20:08,416 Right? 733 01:20:08,458 --> 01:20:08,791 Right. 734 01:20:08,833 --> 01:20:10,250 He shows you a facade. 735 01:20:11,166 --> 01:20:11,958 That's interesting. 736 01:20:11,958 --> 01:20:13,041 To his boss and to the 737 01:20:13,041 --> 01:20:14,000 higher ups and all that kind of 738 01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:14,291 stuff. 739 01:20:14,291 --> 01:20:15,500 And then behind the closed doors, 740 01:20:15,500 --> 01:20:16,458 when he's actually doing that, 741 01:20:16,625 --> 01:20:18,208 he's not doing what he says he's doing. 742 01:20:18,250 --> 01:20:18,458 Yeah. 743 01:20:18,500 --> 01:20:19,791 You know, he's not a good partner. 744 01:20:19,791 --> 01:20:20,750 He's not a good teammate. 745 01:20:21,458 --> 01:20:22,416 And those people, when 746 01:20:22,416 --> 01:20:23,708 they rise and they got showing 747 01:20:23,833 --> 01:20:25,375 because they do that, 748 01:20:25,375 --> 01:20:26,583 because it's that brown nose, 749 01:20:26,583 --> 01:20:26,958 because they-- 750 01:20:27,125 --> 01:20:27,708 The game. 751 01:20:27,750 --> 01:20:29,875 The gamemanship of it, which I get it. 752 01:20:29,875 --> 01:20:30,875 There is some of that. 753 01:20:30,875 --> 01:20:31,583 You have to be able to 754 01:20:31,583 --> 01:20:32,291 play the game to some degree 755 01:20:32,416 --> 01:20:33,208 at the higher levels. 756 01:20:33,208 --> 01:20:34,041 Yes, you do, yeah. 757 01:20:34,541 --> 01:20:35,416 But when you do it to 758 01:20:35,416 --> 01:20:38,500 that degree of just non, 759 01:20:39,333 --> 01:20:41,791 like it's not authentic. 760 01:20:42,041 --> 01:20:43,500 Yeah, you're just two different people. 761 01:20:43,791 --> 01:20:46,000 Yeah, that drove me crazy 762 01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:47,291 when you see someone like that 763 01:20:47,291 --> 01:20:47,541 reward. 764 01:20:48,708 --> 01:20:49,000 Yeah. 765 01:20:49,375 --> 01:20:50,583 Or even backed up, not 766 01:20:50,583 --> 01:20:51,708 even rewarded, but just-- 767 01:20:52,583 --> 01:20:53,000 Validated. 768 01:20:53,166 --> 01:20:54,125 Validated, exactly. 769 01:20:54,500 --> 01:20:55,541 Yeah, because you're like, 770 01:20:55,541 --> 01:20:57,208 seriously, you don't see that? 771 01:20:57,250 --> 01:20:58,208 I know you've had some 772 01:20:58,208 --> 01:20:59,333 people through the years, 773 01:21:00,250 --> 01:21:01,166 I'm not saying anybody 774 01:21:01,166 --> 01:21:02,125 in particular right now, 775 01:21:02,875 --> 01:21:03,375 through the years, I 776 01:21:03,375 --> 01:21:04,625 know that you've seen people 777 01:21:04,625 --> 01:21:05,458 come and go like that too. 778 01:21:05,833 --> 01:21:07,625 Yeah, well, and you're bound to see it, 779 01:21:07,875 --> 01:21:09,791 and I mean, man, I'm going on, 780 01:21:09,791 --> 01:21:11,333 I'm 25 years in corporate 781 01:21:11,333 --> 01:21:12,625 America for the most part. 782 01:21:12,625 --> 01:21:12,916 Yeah. 783 01:21:13,791 --> 01:21:14,750 You're bound to see it 784 01:21:14,750 --> 01:21:16,083 in that amount of time. 785 01:21:16,875 --> 01:21:17,416 And I'm not trying to 786 01:21:17,416 --> 01:21:18,083 change the subject here, 787 01:21:18,083 --> 01:21:18,750 but it's crazy, because 788 01:21:18,750 --> 01:21:19,666 we keep talking about, 789 01:21:19,666 --> 01:21:23,500 I was 24 years in banking, almost 25, 790 01:21:23,500 --> 01:21:24,541 but 24 years in banking, 791 01:21:24,541 --> 01:21:25,791 you're 25 years in finance. 792 01:21:26,500 --> 01:21:27,125 I mean, I guess I was in 793 01:21:27,125 --> 01:21:28,041 finance too, I don't know. 794 01:21:28,416 --> 01:21:28,833 I don't know if 795 01:21:28,833 --> 01:21:30,125 banking's different than finance 796 01:21:30,666 --> 01:21:32,083 when people think of it from the outside. 797 01:21:32,416 --> 01:21:32,958 From the outside, 798 01:21:32,958 --> 01:21:33,875 it's all the same thing. 799 01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:34,250 Yeah. 800 01:21:34,833 --> 01:21:35,166 Internally, you're like, 801 01:21:35,708 --> 01:21:36,416 they could not be more 802 01:21:36,416 --> 01:21:36,875 different industries. 803 01:21:37,208 --> 01:21:38,041 I remember, I think I've 804 01:21:38,041 --> 01:21:38,750 talked about it on here before, 805 01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:40,208 I would tell people I was 806 01:21:40,208 --> 01:21:41,208 in banking and my family, 807 01:21:41,208 --> 01:21:41,875 and like, oh, I think 808 01:21:41,875 --> 01:21:43,541 Shawn is a teller at Wells 809 01:21:43,541 --> 01:21:44,375 or something like that. 810 01:21:44,833 --> 01:21:46,833 Then at one point I think I heard 811 01:21:46,833 --> 01:21:47,458 that I was like a 812 01:21:47,458 --> 01:21:49,041 mortgage banker, you know, 813 01:21:49,041 --> 01:21:50,250 and I was like, no, 814 01:21:50,250 --> 01:21:51,833 neither, totally different. 815 01:21:51,875 --> 01:21:52,875 Not even kind of close. 816 01:21:53,666 --> 01:21:55,791 Yeah, it's like, that's okay though, 817 01:21:55,791 --> 01:21:59,291 you know, that was my own thing. 818 01:21:59,333 --> 01:22:01,000 I was like, no, that's not it at all. 819 01:22:01,333 --> 01:22:02,125 But that's funny, I'm 820 01:22:02,125 --> 01:22:03,166 just curious if people 821 01:22:04,166 --> 01:22:04,958 think of them as the 822 01:22:04,958 --> 01:22:07,208 same thing outside of us. 823 01:22:08,500 --> 01:22:08,958 They do. 824 01:22:09,375 --> 01:22:11,500 But my whole point to that was saying 825 01:22:11,500 --> 01:22:12,375 that we've been almost a 826 01:22:12,375 --> 01:22:13,708 quarter century in these careers. 827 01:22:15,333 --> 01:22:16,666 We don't feel that old, I don't think we 828 01:22:16,666 --> 01:22:17,208 should feel that old, 829 01:22:17,208 --> 01:22:17,583 and I'm not trying to 830 01:22:17,583 --> 01:22:18,208 go down this tangent 831 01:22:18,208 --> 01:22:19,583 because we talk about it a lot too here, 832 01:22:19,583 --> 01:22:21,458 but we did just pass 833 01:22:21,458 --> 01:22:23,250 a milestone this week. 834 01:22:23,750 --> 01:22:24,458 Yes, we did. 835 01:22:24,833 --> 01:22:27,875 We are old enough, which makes sense 836 01:22:27,958 --> 01:22:28,666 that we've been in our 837 01:22:28,666 --> 01:22:30,041 careers for 25 years, 838 01:22:30,333 --> 01:22:31,416 plus a quarter century. 839 01:22:31,958 --> 01:22:33,833 We have a driving child. 840 01:22:34,375 --> 01:22:35,083 You have a child that 841 01:22:35,083 --> 01:22:35,958 now has a driver's license. 842 01:22:36,250 --> 01:22:37,750 That's insanity to me. 843 01:22:37,750 --> 01:22:39,500 It does not feel right at all, at all. 844 01:22:39,708 --> 01:22:43,583 At all, like it is so wrong. 845 01:22:44,791 --> 01:22:48,666 Not that he's old enough to do it, 846 01:22:50,041 --> 01:22:51,375 it's just you still 847 01:22:51,375 --> 01:22:53,375 see that little child. 848 01:22:54,458 --> 01:22:55,666 I think of it two ways. 849 01:22:56,750 --> 01:22:58,208 I think of him as that little kid. 850 01:22:58,708 --> 01:23:00,583 That little boy, that's 851 01:23:00,583 --> 01:23:01,541 number one, just like you said. 852 01:23:02,083 --> 01:23:03,833 That's what I see, and that's part of 853 01:23:03,833 --> 01:23:04,333 what we were talking 854 01:23:04,416 --> 01:23:05,208 about, it was tough for 855 01:23:05,208 --> 01:23:05,916 you to be gone this week 856 01:23:05,916 --> 01:23:07,000 because you were gone when 857 01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:08,458 he took his first drive away. 858 01:23:08,458 --> 01:23:08,666 Yeah. 859 01:23:09,500 --> 01:23:11,291 Which I know I wanted to share with you, 860 01:23:11,291 --> 01:23:12,041 I'm sure you wanted to 861 01:23:12,041 --> 01:23:13,000 share with everybody too. 862 01:23:13,458 --> 01:23:14,500 Unfortunately, that 863 01:23:14,500 --> 01:23:15,791 was one of the few times 864 01:23:15,791 --> 01:23:16,500 corporate America's 865 01:23:16,500 --> 01:23:17,291 gotten away with something 866 01:23:17,291 --> 01:23:18,458 that I know you wished it 867 01:23:18,458 --> 01:23:19,416 wouldn't have been that way. 868 01:23:20,541 --> 01:23:25,166 But, literally, the sun was setting 869 01:23:25,458 --> 01:23:26,375 and he drove into the 870 01:23:26,375 --> 01:23:28,166 sunset and I was like, 871 01:23:28,166 --> 01:23:30,250 I'm gonna start crying, you know? 872 01:23:30,541 --> 01:23:31,541 Because he's growing up and 873 01:23:31,541 --> 01:23:32,541 that's the other part of it 874 01:23:32,541 --> 01:23:34,750 for me, A, it's that little boy. 875 01:23:34,916 --> 01:23:35,125 Yeah. 876 01:23:36,083 --> 01:23:37,416 We saw somebody in our 877 01:23:37,416 --> 01:23:39,208 house today who's got a one year 878 01:23:39,208 --> 01:23:39,958 old and a three year old. 879 01:23:40,583 --> 01:23:41,750 And I was like, that's kind 880 01:23:41,750 --> 01:23:43,291 of still how I see our kids. 881 01:23:43,875 --> 01:23:45,333 That three to six years 882 01:23:45,333 --> 01:23:46,583 old, three to seven years old, 883 01:23:46,583 --> 01:23:48,416 I mean, in my mind's eye, 884 01:23:48,416 --> 01:23:49,791 they're just that precious 885 01:23:49,875 --> 01:23:51,333 little innocent kid still. 886 01:23:51,416 --> 01:23:52,250 Yes, yes. 887 01:23:52,833 --> 01:23:54,541 And I don't know when 888 01:23:54,541 --> 01:23:55,833 or if that ever changes. 889 01:23:56,791 --> 01:23:57,500 Probably not, I mean, 890 01:23:57,500 --> 01:23:58,166 some of the older people 891 01:23:58,625 --> 01:24:01,333 that watch, let me know, I'm 892 01:24:01,333 --> 01:24:02,875 just curious if that's who, 893 01:24:02,875 --> 01:24:03,875 I mean, I know they're not 894 01:24:03,875 --> 01:24:05,166 that age and I'm impressed 895 01:24:05,166 --> 01:24:07,500 and proud of the young 896 01:24:07,500 --> 01:24:09,083 adults they're growing into. 897 01:24:09,125 --> 01:24:09,333 Yeah. 898 01:24:10,083 --> 01:24:11,333 But I still see that little boy. 899 01:24:11,541 --> 01:24:12,041 I know. 900 01:24:12,041 --> 01:24:13,250 That little boy that I used to pick up 901 01:24:13,250 --> 01:24:14,625 and wrestle on the ground with. 902 01:24:14,625 --> 01:24:15,083 Yeah. 903 01:24:15,083 --> 01:24:16,000 I mean, I used to move him 904 01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:17,416 on the carpet with my head. 905 01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:18,708 I'd roll him around 906 01:24:18,708 --> 01:24:19,708 with my head, you know? 907 01:24:19,875 --> 01:24:22,958 That's who I think of. 908 01:24:22,958 --> 01:24:23,125 Yeah. 909 01:24:23,166 --> 01:24:23,500 You know? 910 01:24:23,833 --> 01:24:24,041 Yeah. 911 01:24:24,833 --> 01:24:27,458 But number two is not 912 01:24:27,458 --> 01:24:30,958 as sweet, but it's 16. 913 01:24:31,750 --> 01:24:33,333 Like I was, and I was 914 01:24:33,333 --> 01:24:35,166 telling him in the car this week 915 01:24:35,166 --> 01:24:36,750 that it's just crazy that you're 16 916 01:24:36,750 --> 01:24:38,041 because I remember being 16. 917 01:24:40,375 --> 01:24:45,250 And I was fully, I mean, mostly who I am. 918 01:24:45,500 --> 01:24:45,875 You know what I mean? 919 01:24:46,291 --> 01:24:48,458 I had a sense of self at that point. 920 01:24:48,500 --> 01:24:48,708 Right. 921 01:24:49,750 --> 01:24:50,583 Because of the family 922 01:24:50,583 --> 01:24:51,750 life that I had at that time, 923 01:24:52,708 --> 01:24:56,375 I was much more in my 924 01:24:56,375 --> 01:24:57,583 own world, in my own head. 925 01:24:57,708 --> 01:24:58,166 Yeah. 926 01:24:58,166 --> 01:24:59,916 You know, than he is. 927 01:25:00,125 --> 01:25:01,458 And that was all a 928 01:25:01,458 --> 01:25:02,500 little bit different there. 929 01:25:02,500 --> 01:25:03,416 So I hadn't like 930 01:25:03,416 --> 01:25:05,875 flowered, you know, at that age. 931 01:25:06,208 --> 01:25:07,958 Whereas I think he's got a totally 932 01:25:07,958 --> 01:25:08,916 different upbringing 933 01:25:09,083 --> 01:25:10,208 to where he's comfortable 934 01:25:10,208 --> 01:25:11,250 to be himself and he's open 935 01:25:11,250 --> 01:25:13,500 and he's got a good home at the house. 936 01:25:14,375 --> 01:25:16,583 And in a good relationship 937 01:25:16,583 --> 01:25:17,750 with both of us, you know, 938 01:25:18,166 --> 01:25:22,458 that sense of self is there. 939 01:25:23,625 --> 01:25:24,708 And it's crazy because 940 01:25:24,708 --> 01:25:26,000 like that's who he is. 941 01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:27,791 Like who he is now is 942 01:25:27,791 --> 01:25:29,041 gonna be somewhat true 943 01:25:29,666 --> 01:25:31,916 to who he is in 20 years. 944 01:25:32,416 --> 01:25:33,833 It's just gonna mature a little bit more. 945 01:25:34,166 --> 01:25:35,375 Sure, it's gonna refine 946 01:25:35,375 --> 01:25:38,000 and maybe evolve slightly. 947 01:25:38,208 --> 01:25:41,000 But I mean, the base of who he is today, 948 01:25:42,166 --> 01:25:43,541 so he's gonna be in 20 years. 949 01:25:43,916 --> 01:25:45,791 And I was actually texting 950 01:25:45,791 --> 01:25:46,958 with another mom this week. 951 01:25:47,041 --> 01:25:49,291 I was like, it's just all the feelings. 952 01:25:49,583 --> 01:25:53,291 Like it's, I want them to stay babies, 953 01:25:54,416 --> 01:25:56,666 but at the same time, like I'd miss who 954 01:25:56,666 --> 01:25:58,000 they're gonna become. 955 01:25:58,500 --> 01:25:59,791 Seeing them become who 956 01:25:59,791 --> 01:26:01,000 they're supposed to be. 957 01:26:01,583 --> 01:26:03,416 And it is just 958 01:26:03,416 --> 01:26:09,250 heartbreaking, but really beautiful. 959 01:26:09,500 --> 01:26:10,750 And I mean, it's just every single 960 01:26:10,750 --> 01:26:12,125 feeling on the spectrum. 961 01:26:12,416 --> 01:26:12,625 Yeah. 962 01:26:13,750 --> 01:26:15,625 From like sheer panic of the 963 01:26:15,625 --> 01:26:16,750 fact that they're operating 964 01:26:16,875 --> 01:26:17,791 in a vehicle that you're 965 01:26:17,791 --> 01:26:19,125 not a part of right now, 966 01:26:19,875 --> 01:26:22,041 to just like utter pride 967 01:26:22,041 --> 01:26:23,041 that brings you to tears. 968 01:26:23,333 --> 01:26:23,958 Yeah, 100%. 969 01:26:24,250 --> 01:26:25,500 And everything in between. 970 01:26:25,875 --> 01:26:26,375 Yeah, 100%. 971 01:26:27,375 --> 01:26:29,208 But along with that age and that maturity 972 01:26:29,666 --> 01:26:31,083 that they're at 16 and whatnot, 973 01:26:31,583 --> 01:26:33,541 like the other part that goes with that 974 01:26:33,541 --> 01:26:35,791 is that they're aware of the world now. 975 01:26:35,791 --> 01:26:36,875 I mean, I was aware of the world. 976 01:26:37,166 --> 01:26:37,833 I knew the difference 977 01:26:37,833 --> 01:26:38,625 between right and wrong. 978 01:26:39,500 --> 01:26:41,208 I knew if I, you know, 979 01:26:41,208 --> 01:26:41,916 I knew that there are 980 01:26:41,916 --> 01:26:43,375 consequences for my choices. 981 01:26:43,375 --> 01:26:43,625 Yeah. 982 01:26:44,250 --> 01:26:44,916 You know, and doesn't 983 01:26:44,916 --> 01:26:45,750 mean I did everything right, 984 01:26:46,208 --> 01:26:48,375 but I'm just saying my point is, 985 01:26:48,375 --> 01:26:51,000 is like he's at that point now 986 01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:52,500 where he can go out and make decisions. 987 01:26:53,625 --> 01:26:54,833 And he's gonna have to live 988 01:26:54,833 --> 01:26:56,458 by the consequences of the decisions. 989 01:26:56,458 --> 01:26:57,500 I know he's still in our house. 990 01:26:57,833 --> 01:26:59,500 We have some level of like 991 01:26:59,500 --> 01:27:00,750 providing some guardrails 992 01:27:00,750 --> 01:27:01,291 for him still. 993 01:27:01,541 --> 01:27:01,833 Yeah. 994 01:27:01,875 --> 01:27:02,541 But for the most part, 995 01:27:02,541 --> 01:27:03,750 now that he's able just 996 01:27:03,750 --> 01:27:05,291 to go and do what he wants, 997 01:27:06,416 --> 01:27:07,458 I was telling him, I was like, 998 01:27:07,958 --> 01:27:09,333 now this is where all of 999 01:27:09,333 --> 01:27:10,416 our parenting comes in. 1000 01:27:10,416 --> 01:27:11,333 This is where who you 1001 01:27:11,333 --> 01:27:13,000 are inside will shine. 1002 01:27:13,041 --> 01:27:13,333 Right. 1003 01:27:13,750 --> 01:27:14,500 And come through. 1004 01:27:14,500 --> 01:27:14,750 Right. 1005 01:27:15,958 --> 01:27:17,458 Because I mean, I don't know. 1006 01:27:17,458 --> 01:27:17,958 It's just, that's 1007 01:27:17,958 --> 01:27:19,125 what's insane to me is like, 1008 01:27:19,125 --> 01:27:20,666 I just know how aware 1009 01:27:20,666 --> 01:27:21,708 of the world I was then. 1010 01:27:21,708 --> 01:27:22,625 The good things in the world, 1011 01:27:22,625 --> 01:27:24,000 the bad things in the world. 1012 01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:24,416 Right. You know, the things 1013 01:27:24,416 --> 01:27:25,333 that I shouldn't be doing 1014 01:27:25,333 --> 01:27:26,000 in the world, things that 1015 01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:26,958 I should be doing as well. 1016 01:27:27,166 --> 01:27:28,500 I was aware of all of it now, 1017 01:27:28,666 --> 01:27:30,458 not maybe at a depth. 1018 01:27:30,666 --> 01:27:30,916 Right. 1019 01:27:31,583 --> 01:27:33,500 You know, because that, again, 1020 01:27:33,500 --> 01:27:35,000 there's more education and more refining, 1021 01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:35,916 like you said, to come. 1022 01:27:35,958 --> 01:27:36,125 Yeah. 1023 01:27:36,375 --> 01:27:37,041 But he's there. 1024 01:27:37,500 --> 01:27:37,708 Yeah. 1025 01:27:37,833 --> 01:27:39,791 And when we still look at 1026 01:27:39,791 --> 01:27:41,166 him as that seven year old, 1027 01:27:41,375 --> 01:27:42,791 it's crazy because his brain's not a 1028 01:27:42,791 --> 01:27:43,458 seven year old brain 1029 01:27:43,541 --> 01:27:43,791 anymore. 1030 01:27:44,375 --> 01:27:44,666 No. 1031 01:27:45,208 --> 01:27:45,625 And he's like, "I'm gonna leave the house, 1032 01:27:46,583 --> 01:27:47,458 and I know I'm talking too 1033 01:27:47,458 --> 01:27:48,458 much here so I'll let you go, 1034 01:27:48,458 --> 01:27:51,666 but I remember when I was his age, 1035 01:27:52,458 --> 01:27:53,666 I was, and it was a 1036 01:27:53,666 --> 01:27:54,791 different situation again, 1037 01:27:54,791 --> 01:27:56,250 but I was like, you guys think I'm like 1038 01:27:56,250 --> 01:27:57,208 serious all the time, 1039 01:27:57,208 --> 01:27:57,875 you guys think I'm mad 1040 01:27:57,875 --> 01:27:59,583 all the time, but I'm not. 1041 01:27:59,833 --> 01:28:01,000 I was like, when I leave this house, 1042 01:28:01,416 --> 01:28:02,541 I actually have friends. 1043 01:28:03,083 --> 01:28:03,250 Yeah. 1044 01:28:03,291 --> 01:28:05,083 I laugh, I have a good time. 1045 01:28:05,375 --> 01:28:05,541 Yeah. 1046 01:28:05,541 --> 01:28:05,958 You know what I mean? 1047 01:28:06,625 --> 01:28:07,666 And like I said, we have 1048 01:28:07,666 --> 01:28:08,791 a different house here, 1049 01:28:08,791 --> 01:28:10,125 so he laughs and has fun here. 1050 01:28:10,125 --> 01:28:10,500 Oh yeah. He shares his 1051 01:28:10,500 --> 01:28:11,625 personality here all the time too, 1052 01:28:11,625 --> 01:28:12,541 which is great, totally different. 1053 01:28:13,708 --> 01:28:15,250 But I do know because of that, 1054 01:28:15,500 --> 01:28:17,500 there was a whole other side when he's 1055 01:28:17,500 --> 01:28:18,166 out with his friends 1056 01:28:18,166 --> 01:28:19,000 though too. 1057 01:28:19,041 --> 01:28:19,208 Yeah. 1058 01:28:19,250 --> 01:28:19,625 You know what I mean? 1059 01:28:20,041 --> 01:28:21,250 He's got a home persona, but 1060 01:28:21,250 --> 01:28:22,958 he's gotten away persona too. 1061 01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:23,500 Yeah. 1062 01:28:23,708 --> 01:28:24,583 And that's weird that we 1063 01:28:24,583 --> 01:28:26,000 don't really know that. 1064 01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:27,625 We won't know that till he's older. 1065 01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:29,291 Right, right. 1066 01:28:29,833 --> 01:28:31,208 That's, you know, I've 1067 01:28:31,208 --> 01:28:33,000 never really thought about it 1068 01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:33,625 that way. 1069 01:28:33,875 --> 01:28:34,000 Yeah. 1070 01:28:37,041 --> 01:28:38,916 Because I had a very 1071 01:28:38,916 --> 01:28:40,125 different upbringing. 1072 01:28:41,750 --> 01:28:42,333 Clearly I've been 1073 01:28:42,333 --> 01:28:43,291 talking a lot this week. 1074 01:28:44,291 --> 01:28:45,000 I'm getting tongue tied. 1075 01:28:45,791 --> 01:28:48,875 But I think I was very 1076 01:28:48,875 --> 01:28:49,875 much the same at home 1077 01:28:49,875 --> 01:28:51,166 as I was with my friends. 1078 01:28:52,666 --> 01:28:54,833 And so I don't know 1079 01:28:54,833 --> 01:28:58,375 that I ever was different 1080 01:28:58,375 --> 01:28:59,583 in like, oh, my away 1081 01:28:59,583 --> 01:29:00,708 persona with my friends 1082 01:29:00,791 --> 01:29:03,666 versus my home persona with my family. 1083 01:29:04,083 --> 01:29:05,458 Maybe I was a little more talkative 1084 01:29:06,041 --> 01:29:06,750 because I was really 1085 01:29:06,750 --> 01:29:08,875 pretty quiet in my house. 1086 01:29:08,875 --> 01:29:11,166 I come from one of five 1087 01:29:11,166 --> 01:29:14,375 very gregarious children 1088 01:29:15,500 --> 01:29:17,541 and I am probably the least gregarious. 1089 01:29:17,916 --> 01:29:19,750 And so I was probably a 1090 01:29:19,750 --> 01:29:20,833 little more quiet at home, 1091 01:29:21,750 --> 01:29:22,625 but at the same time, 1092 01:29:22,625 --> 01:29:24,208 I was still pretty shy, 1093 01:29:24,458 --> 01:29:25,416 especially in high school. 1094 01:29:25,666 --> 01:29:27,166 You've made the comment to me before too 1095 01:29:27,166 --> 01:29:28,333 that you've said that I 1096 01:29:28,333 --> 01:29:28,875 think your whole family 1097 01:29:28,875 --> 01:29:30,500 thought you were quiet in comparison 1098 01:29:30,750 --> 01:29:32,208 to a very gregarious family. 1099 01:29:32,250 --> 01:29:32,500 Yes. 1100 01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:34,166 They thought you were quiet. 1101 01:29:34,166 --> 01:29:34,500 And you're like, well, 1102 01:29:34,500 --> 01:29:35,625 I'm actually not that quiet, 1103 01:29:35,625 --> 01:29:38,208 but in this household, I'm a mouse. 1104 01:30:05,500 --> 01:30:05,833 Right, right, right. But it's not like I left and I was like, 1105 01:30:05,833 --> 01:30:06,500 (imitates Just an idea. 1106 01:30:06,500 --> 01:30:06,833 I'm not saying it in a really frightening way. 1107 01:30:06,833 --> 01:30:07,041 I'm saying like that in a really hard time 1108 01:30:07,041 --> 01:30:08,333 to get a word in edgewise. 1109 01:30:08,333 --> 01:30:08,583 Yeah. 1110 01:30:08,625 --> 01:30:09,500 I mean it's their 1111 01:30:09,500 --> 01:30:10,750 world, their gregarious. 1112 01:30:11,166 --> 01:30:12,666 They have that family bond 1113 01:30:12,666 --> 01:30:14,000 where they wanna hear 1114 01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:14,791 from their tramp members 1115 01:30:14,791 --> 01:30:15,625 and nobody else. 1116 01:30:16,166 --> 01:30:16,791 And I'm not saying 1117 01:30:16,791 --> 01:30:17,833 that in a negative way, 1118 01:30:17,833 --> 01:30:19,833 but I mean, that is 1119 01:30:19,833 --> 01:30:21,166 hard to break through to. 1120 01:30:21,208 --> 01:30:21,625 For sure. 1121 01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:23,416 And it even still is for you 1122 01:30:33,875 --> 01:30:34,583 a little bit more quiet 1123 01:30:34,583 --> 01:30:35,625 compared to the other three. 1124 01:30:35,625 --> 01:30:35,833 Yeah. 1125 01:30:37,375 --> 01:30:39,916 But I mean, all great people obviously, 1126 01:30:40,208 --> 01:30:41,625 but yeah, I totally get it. 1127 01:30:41,625 --> 01:30:42,666 They're still that way though too. 1128 01:30:42,666 --> 01:30:43,375 It's really hard to 1129 01:30:43,375 --> 01:30:44,541 get over it in edgewise. 1130 01:30:44,541 --> 01:30:44,750 Yeah. 1131 01:30:45,416 --> 01:30:46,250 Whereas I think they 1132 01:30:46,250 --> 01:30:47,666 were probably a little more, 1133 01:30:47,666 --> 01:30:50,708 well, I guess not all of them, you know, 1134 01:30:50,708 --> 01:30:52,250 but they may have been a little different 1135 01:30:52,250 --> 01:30:53,375 outside of the house, but 1136 01:30:53,375 --> 01:30:54,791 it's funny how when you go back 1137 01:30:55,333 --> 01:30:57,625 as a family unit, you 1138 01:30:57,625 --> 01:30:59,875 fall into those same patterns 1139 01:31:00,125 --> 01:31:01,958 and like, oh, Megan's the quiet one. 1140 01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:05,166 And I, maybe I'm not self-aware enough, 1141 01:31:05,166 --> 01:31:06,750 but I don't think anyone would meet me 1142 01:31:06,750 --> 01:31:07,875 outside of my family 1143 01:31:07,875 --> 01:31:09,458 and be like, oh, she's really quiet. 1144 01:31:10,500 --> 01:31:12,041 Yeah, no, yeah, no, 1145 01:31:12,333 --> 01:31:13,208 that's a whole other part. 1146 01:31:13,208 --> 01:31:14,500 Yeah, I don't think you're quiet. 1147 01:31:14,500 --> 01:31:16,750 I don't think you're, I don't think, 1148 01:31:17,166 --> 01:31:18,250 like compared to your sister, 1149 01:31:18,500 --> 01:31:19,041 I think you're quiet 1150 01:31:19,041 --> 01:31:19,916 compared to your sister. 1151 01:31:20,291 --> 01:31:20,625 Yeah. 1152 01:31:20,666 --> 01:31:21,791 She's very gregarious. 1153 01:31:22,083 --> 01:31:22,375 Yeah. 1154 01:31:24,500 --> 01:31:26,958 You know, but you are outgoing, 1155 01:31:26,958 --> 01:31:28,333 but you're not outgoing to their levels. 1156 01:31:28,791 --> 01:31:29,083 Right. 1157 01:31:29,083 --> 01:31:30,541 Like if you were just to insert your 1158 01:31:30,541 --> 01:31:31,708 normal self in there. 1159 01:31:32,708 --> 01:31:34,166 You're not like the person on the 1160 01:31:34,166 --> 01:31:34,875 sideline that's like, 1161 01:31:34,875 --> 01:31:35,416 bah, bah, bah, bah, 1162 01:31:35,416 --> 01:31:35,916 bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, 1163 01:31:35,916 --> 01:31:36,583 there's way more, 1164 01:31:36,583 --> 01:31:39,166 you're middle, you're mid. 1165 01:31:39,416 --> 01:31:39,833 I'm mid. 1166 01:31:40,083 --> 01:31:41,041 As our kids would say. 1167 01:31:41,458 --> 01:31:42,000 I'm mid. 1168 01:31:42,291 --> 01:31:43,791 When it comes to that, right? 1169 01:31:43,791 --> 01:31:44,041 Right. 1170 01:31:44,708 --> 01:31:46,125 And your family is just 1171 01:31:46,125 --> 01:31:46,875 one of those ones that say, 1172 01:31:46,875 --> 01:31:47,625 if you're not high 1173 01:31:47,625 --> 01:31:48,625 level, I mean, it's like, 1174 01:31:48,625 --> 01:31:49,708 they don't even see you. 1175 01:31:49,708 --> 01:31:50,708 And I don't mean that in a negative way, 1176 01:31:50,708 --> 01:31:51,541 but that's just the way they are. 1177 01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:52,750 All the people that 1178 01:31:52,750 --> 01:31:53,958 I've met of their friends, 1179 01:31:54,208 --> 01:31:55,166 they're like all the same way. 1180 01:31:56,250 --> 01:31:56,541 Oh, yeah. 1181 01:31:57,208 --> 01:31:57,750 You know what I mean? 1182 01:31:57,958 --> 01:31:58,708 Shoot, I mean, they're all 1183 01:31:58,708 --> 01:31:59,833 a thousand miles an hour. 1184 01:31:59,875 --> 01:32:00,291 And if you're not a 1185 01:32:00,291 --> 01:32:01,083 thousand miles an hour, 1186 01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:03,500 they don't see you, they're not stopping. 1187 01:32:03,541 --> 01:32:04,291 Right, right. 1188 01:32:04,291 --> 01:32:05,333 Not to be rude, not to, 1189 01:32:05,333 --> 01:32:06,000 that's just the way they are. 1190 01:32:06,208 --> 01:32:06,750 But I mean, that's why, 1191 01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:08,125 you know, even early on, 1192 01:32:08,125 --> 01:32:09,750 even till now, I have a tough time even 1193 01:32:09,750 --> 01:32:10,583 connecting with them 1194 01:32:10,583 --> 01:32:14,625 because it's like, I'm not 1195 01:32:14,625 --> 01:32:15,500 a thousand miles an hour. 1196 01:32:15,916 --> 01:32:17,625 Right, and especially in the settings 1197 01:32:17,791 --> 01:32:18,875 where we would see them, 1198 01:32:18,875 --> 01:32:20,500 which is usually we're, 1199 01:32:20,791 --> 01:32:22,666 you know, it's Thanksgiving, right? 1200 01:32:22,666 --> 01:32:23,833 It's all of them, it's us 1201 01:32:23,833 --> 01:32:25,583 on away from our own house 1202 01:32:25,583 --> 01:32:27,541 and a break from our own craziness. 1203 01:32:28,041 --> 01:32:30,000 So we kind of tend to 1204 01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:33,333 bring the activity level down 1205 01:32:33,333 --> 01:32:34,000 because we're like, we 1206 01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:35,750 go a million miles an hour 1207 01:32:35,750 --> 01:32:36,833 all the time, like, 1208 01:32:36,833 --> 01:32:38,166 we're gonna hang out with you 1209 01:32:38,166 --> 01:32:40,583 on vacation, we're just gonna chill. 1210 01:32:40,583 --> 01:32:41,458 And when they come together, 1211 01:32:41,458 --> 01:32:42,291 I think it's that thing of 1212 01:32:42,291 --> 01:32:43,750 falling into that family thing 1213 01:32:43,750 --> 01:32:45,375 where they're like, oh, let's feed, 1214 01:32:45,375 --> 01:32:47,458 let's get this cyclone going, here we go, 1215 01:32:47,458 --> 01:32:48,291 we're making a tornado. 1216 01:32:48,958 --> 01:32:49,250 Yes. 1217 01:32:49,250 --> 01:32:50,625 That's how they are, right? 1218 01:32:50,625 --> 01:32:53,791 And we're like, whoa, okay, you guys go 1219 01:32:53,791 --> 01:32:54,458 with your bad selves. 1220 01:32:54,666 --> 01:32:54,916 Right. 1221 01:32:55,791 --> 01:32:57,541 And it's just, it's a lot. 1222 01:32:58,833 --> 01:33:01,000 But I say all that knowing that, 1223 01:33:01,583 --> 01:33:02,625 I think that it's right, 1224 01:33:02,625 --> 01:33:03,791 it's kind of the family dynamic 1225 01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:06,833 because I like them all individually. 1226 01:33:07,083 --> 01:33:07,416 Yeah. 1227 01:33:07,541 --> 01:33:07,875 You know what I mean? 1228 01:33:07,875 --> 01:33:08,708 We've had one-on-one 1229 01:33:08,708 --> 01:33:09,500 time with all of them 1230 01:33:09,500 --> 01:33:11,000 throughout the years, not a lot of time, 1231 01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:11,583 because we all live 1232 01:33:11,583 --> 01:33:12,583 in, I think we all live 1233 01:33:12,583 --> 01:33:13,833 in different states, every one of us. 1234 01:33:13,875 --> 01:33:14,666 For the most part, I 1235 01:33:14,666 --> 01:33:15,833 mean, all of us, yeah. 1236 01:33:17,375 --> 01:33:19,208 But one-on-one, they're all fantastic 1237 01:33:19,208 --> 01:33:19,875 and you can have good 1238 01:33:19,875 --> 01:33:20,875 conversations with them 1239 01:33:21,125 --> 01:33:21,875 for the most part. 1240 01:33:21,875 --> 01:33:22,041 Right. 1241 01:33:22,041 --> 01:33:22,458 You know what I mean? 1242 01:33:24,250 --> 01:33:24,708 But when they're all 1243 01:33:24,708 --> 01:33:26,125 together, I mean, it's like, 1244 01:33:26,125 --> 01:33:27,125 I'll just go sit in the other room, 1245 01:33:27,125 --> 01:33:28,875 because it's just, no, 1246 01:33:29,416 --> 01:33:30,958 I'm not even here in a way. 1247 01:33:30,958 --> 01:33:31,833 You don't see me anyways? 1248 01:33:32,333 --> 01:33:33,333 I'm gonna go sit in the other room. 1249 01:33:33,333 --> 01:33:34,791 Yeah, you just throw the bait out there, 1250 01:33:34,791 --> 01:33:37,041 let them, like, you just go. 1251 01:33:37,166 --> 01:33:39,041 So that, bringing that back home to us, 1252 01:33:39,041 --> 01:33:40,041 that's interesting, 1253 01:33:40,041 --> 01:33:41,041 because that's what our kids 1254 01:33:41,041 --> 01:33:44,083 are developing right now, is their 1255 01:33:44,083 --> 01:33:45,250 personas at the house. 1256 01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:46,583 Right, and like, when I 1257 01:33:46,583 --> 01:33:47,833 picked up our oldest yesterday, 1258 01:33:49,250 --> 01:33:50,000 before he could drive, 1259 01:33:50,208 --> 01:33:51,083 maybe it was two days ago, 1260 01:33:52,458 --> 01:33:55,500 he was kicking field goals at 1261 01:33:55,500 --> 01:33:56,500 the school with some buddies 1262 01:33:56,875 --> 01:33:58,666 and I was just watching him from afar, 1263 01:33:58,666 --> 01:33:59,750 because he didn't have his phone on him, 1264 01:33:59,750 --> 01:34:01,166 so I was just waving that I was there. 1265 01:34:02,416 --> 01:34:03,500 And I could just watch 1266 01:34:03,500 --> 01:34:04,750 him interact with them 1267 01:34:04,750 --> 01:34:07,125 and he kicked one from a crazy angle 1268 01:34:07,125 --> 01:34:08,500 and it was right off the uprights 1269 01:34:09,083 --> 01:34:10,208 and they were like, oh, 1270 01:34:10,208 --> 01:34:11,208 and they were laughing 1271 01:34:11,208 --> 01:34:13,000 and it's just like, that's so cool. 1272 01:34:13,958 --> 01:34:14,791 And I don't know this kid 1273 01:34:14,791 --> 01:34:17,166 that he's hanging out with. 1274 01:34:17,291 --> 01:34:17,333 Right. 1275 01:34:17,333 --> 01:34:19,000 He's not on any soccer team, 1276 01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:20,250 she's not one of his main friends. 1277 01:34:20,333 --> 01:34:20,666 Right. 1278 01:34:21,500 --> 01:34:22,416 It's somebody that he knows 1279 01:34:22,416 --> 01:34:23,416 and he's just hanging out there and 1280 01:34:23,416 --> 01:34:24,250 having a good time with. 1281 01:34:24,250 --> 01:34:25,166 It's weird. 1282 01:34:25,625 --> 01:34:25,916 Yeah. 1283 01:34:26,333 --> 01:34:27,708 And especially now that he's got the car, 1284 01:34:27,708 --> 01:34:30,625 because they went to dinner, team dinner. 1285 01:34:30,833 --> 01:34:31,458 Team dinner. 1286 01:34:31,458 --> 01:34:32,500 And to attend to one of 1287 01:34:32,500 --> 01:34:33,916 the guys' houses afterwards. 1288 01:34:35,291 --> 01:34:35,958 It's insane. 1289 01:34:37,208 --> 01:34:38,333 It's insane to me. 1290 01:34:39,166 --> 01:34:43,583 And what I can't wrap my head around yet, 1291 01:34:44,916 --> 01:34:46,916 is the fact that, and you 1292 01:34:46,916 --> 01:34:47,791 and I talked about this, 1293 01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:51,458 and I actually, for those 1294 01:34:51,458 --> 01:34:52,416 of you who are all thinking 1295 01:34:52,416 --> 01:34:53,416 that I'm a terrible mom, 1296 01:34:53,416 --> 01:34:54,083 I did not actually 1297 01:34:54,083 --> 01:34:55,500 miss our son's birthday. 1298 01:34:56,083 --> 01:34:56,750 While I missed him 1299 01:34:56,750 --> 01:34:57,875 driving away for the first time, 1300 01:34:57,875 --> 01:35:00,125 which breaks my heart, absolutely. 1301 01:35:01,041 --> 01:35:02,500 I drew the line, I was like, 1302 01:35:02,500 --> 01:35:03,750 I'm not leaving for his birthday. 1303 01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:05,541 Even though there is something going on, 1304 01:35:06,166 --> 01:35:07,291 I need to be here. 1305 01:35:08,125 --> 01:35:08,583 Because we were talking 1306 01:35:08,583 --> 01:35:09,916 about birthdays, you and I, 1307 01:35:09,916 --> 01:35:12,041 and I was like, 16 is revolutionary. 1308 01:35:12,458 --> 01:35:13,250 Every other birthday 1309 01:35:13,250 --> 01:35:14,458 you wake up and it's like, 1310 01:35:14,458 --> 01:35:16,000 okay, well, yeah, I'm a year older, 1311 01:35:16,125 --> 01:35:16,708 according to the 1312 01:35:16,708 --> 01:35:17,875 calendar, but you feel the same. 1313 01:35:19,250 --> 01:35:19,916 16, there's probably 1314 01:35:19,916 --> 01:35:20,750 what, three birthdays? 1315 01:35:20,750 --> 01:35:22,583 16, 18, and 21, where you're like, 1316 01:35:22,833 --> 01:35:24,958 something massive just changed. 1317 01:35:25,541 --> 01:35:26,000 And I struggle. 1318 01:35:26,750 --> 01:35:27,583 I'm struggling with 1319 01:35:27,583 --> 01:35:28,625 the fact that he's 16. 1320 01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:30,291 It's a whole lot of 1321 01:35:30,291 --> 01:35:31,791 emotions, like I said. 1322 01:35:33,333 --> 01:35:33,958 But we're at a point 1323 01:35:33,958 --> 01:35:36,541 where he can leave our home 1324 01:35:36,875 --> 01:35:40,916 at any point without us. 1325 01:35:43,291 --> 01:35:45,125 And that to me is just, I 1326 01:35:45,125 --> 01:35:46,625 can't wrap my head around that. 1327 01:35:46,708 --> 01:35:47,708 If he left our house, 1328 01:35:47,708 --> 01:35:49,333 we needed a ride for him, 1329 01:35:49,333 --> 01:35:50,666 or we had to take him somewhere. 1330 01:35:52,875 --> 01:35:57,125 He really couldn't leave in a real way. 1331 01:35:57,125 --> 01:35:57,958 Yeah, yeah. 1332 01:35:58,583 --> 01:36:01,458 This really reinforces that stat, 1333 01:36:01,875 --> 01:36:02,833 that by the time your 1334 01:36:02,833 --> 01:36:04,791 kids, I think it was like 12, 1335 01:36:06,416 --> 01:36:08,416 you've already spent 80% of the time 1336 01:36:08,750 --> 01:36:09,333 that you're gonna spend 1337 01:36:09,333 --> 01:36:12,208 with them in their lives. 1338 01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:15,583 And it's like, wow, I mean, I might be 1339 01:36:15,583 --> 01:36:16,458 slightly off on that. 1340 01:36:16,500 --> 01:36:17,208 Do you remember what the actual-- 1341 01:36:17,500 --> 01:36:18,708 It was something like that. 1342 01:36:18,708 --> 01:36:19,416 It was like, but yeah, 1343 01:36:19,416 --> 01:36:20,000 by the time they were 12, 1344 01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:21,333 you spent 90% of the time. 1345 01:36:21,875 --> 01:36:23,000 I shot it low, maybe. 1346 01:36:23,208 --> 01:36:23,708 I think so. 1347 01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:25,666 I mean, that is what I 1348 01:36:25,666 --> 01:36:26,708 think about when I'm like, 1349 01:36:26,708 --> 01:36:27,541 okay, well now he's free. 1350 01:36:28,125 --> 01:36:29,208 Because we're never gonna see him again. 1351 01:36:29,958 --> 01:36:31,416 He's not gonna be in the back of the car. 1352 01:36:32,291 --> 01:36:33,166 I actually did take him 1353 01:36:33,166 --> 01:36:33,875 to school this morning, 1354 01:36:33,875 --> 01:36:34,791 which I thought was crazy. 1355 01:36:35,166 --> 01:36:37,000 I know, and I will 1356 01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:38,333 still offer my services 1357 01:36:38,500 --> 01:36:39,500 to take him anywhere, 1358 01:36:39,500 --> 01:36:40,708 because it's just like, 1359 01:36:41,416 --> 01:36:43,125 I will want that time. 1360 01:36:43,125 --> 01:36:43,375 Yeah. 1361 01:36:44,750 --> 01:36:48,333 To me, it's just, I 1362 01:36:48,333 --> 01:36:49,833 don't want that to be, 1363 01:36:50,916 --> 01:36:51,958 I don't want that time to go. 1364 01:36:52,416 --> 01:36:52,833 No. 1365 01:36:52,875 --> 01:36:54,833 And the other thing I don't want, 1366 01:36:55,041 --> 01:36:57,583 and this is like I'm thinking 1367 01:36:57,583 --> 01:36:58,958 about this as we're talking, 1368 01:37:00,458 --> 01:37:04,083 I try very hard to see who our kids are 1369 01:37:04,083 --> 01:37:05,291 when they're not at our home, 1370 01:37:05,958 --> 01:37:07,125 and not put them in the 1371 01:37:07,125 --> 01:37:09,083 box that I know them as, 1372 01:37:09,083 --> 01:37:10,333 as their mother. 1373 01:37:12,375 --> 01:37:14,750 I try to see like, gosh, 1374 01:37:14,750 --> 01:37:15,708 who are they at school, 1375 01:37:15,708 --> 01:37:17,291 and meet them in that place too, 1376 01:37:17,291 --> 01:37:18,875 because you hear that your 1377 01:37:18,875 --> 01:37:19,750 parents will always see you 1378 01:37:19,750 --> 01:37:20,875 as one way, because that's 1379 01:37:20,875 --> 01:37:21,916 how you were in their house, 1380 01:37:21,916 --> 01:37:22,875 and it goes back a little bit 1381 01:37:22,875 --> 01:37:23,916 to what we were just saying, 1382 01:37:24,541 --> 01:37:26,250 how you fall back into those same roles, 1383 01:37:26,708 --> 01:37:28,083 and I don't want to put 1384 01:37:28,083 --> 01:37:29,250 my kids in the same box 1385 01:37:29,250 --> 01:37:30,083 that they were in when 1386 01:37:30,083 --> 01:37:31,000 they were seven years old, 1387 01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:31,791 and they rolled that they 1388 01:37:31,791 --> 01:37:34,125 played in our core unit of five. 1389 01:37:34,500 --> 01:37:34,750 Yeah. 1390 01:37:35,541 --> 01:37:37,583 I wanna see them for who 1391 01:37:37,583 --> 01:37:38,458 they mature and become. 1392 01:37:38,791 --> 01:37:39,041 Right. 1393 01:37:40,791 --> 01:37:43,291 And that is something 1394 01:37:43,291 --> 01:37:45,750 that I actively work on, 1395 01:37:45,750 --> 01:37:47,208 like every single day with them. 1396 01:37:48,083 --> 01:37:48,916 Yeah, I think that's important. 1397 01:37:49,166 --> 01:37:49,750 I mean, I think every 1398 01:37:49,750 --> 01:37:51,208 parent in a healthy relationship 1399 01:37:51,375 --> 01:37:53,000 comes to see that as they get older, 1400 01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:53,458 definitely in their 1401 01:37:53,458 --> 01:37:55,166 20s, 30s and older, right? 1402 01:37:55,791 --> 01:37:57,666 But as early as they're teens, 1403 01:37:58,375 --> 01:38:00,708 I never thought of it that 1404 01:38:00,708 --> 01:38:02,291 early to some degree, right? 1405 01:38:02,291 --> 01:38:05,416 I mean, I try to keep true to them, 1406 01:38:05,416 --> 01:38:06,375 I think it's just kind of the 1407 01:38:06,375 --> 01:38:07,458 same thing that you're doing. 1408 01:38:07,958 --> 01:38:09,500 I try not to box them in. 1409 01:38:10,125 --> 01:38:10,333 Yeah. 1410 01:38:12,291 --> 01:38:13,291 Yeah, I hear what you're saying. 1411 01:38:13,708 --> 01:38:14,500 I just never thought of 1412 01:38:14,500 --> 01:38:15,500 it consciously like that, 1413 01:38:15,500 --> 01:38:16,291 but I understand what you're doing 1414 01:38:16,291 --> 01:38:17,791 because I think I do it in my own way. 1415 01:38:17,791 --> 01:38:19,291 Yeah, I think you do too. 1416 01:38:19,500 --> 01:38:19,791 You know. 1417 01:38:20,416 --> 01:38:20,875 It's just-- 1418 01:38:21,041 --> 01:38:22,666 I mean, it's giving them their wings. 1419 01:38:23,041 --> 01:38:24,791 They've gotta fly in their own way. 1420 01:38:24,791 --> 01:38:25,041 Right. 1421 01:38:25,666 --> 01:38:27,083 And that's just what's crazy 1422 01:38:27,083 --> 01:38:28,458 about him being at this age 1423 01:38:28,458 --> 01:38:30,375 and all these kids growing up, 1424 01:38:30,666 --> 01:38:31,708 some of you have friends that have kids 1425 01:38:31,708 --> 01:38:32,791 going to college and stuff, 1426 01:38:32,791 --> 01:38:36,083 and it's really hard to think to myself 1427 01:38:36,416 --> 01:38:38,166 that I've taught you 1428 01:38:38,166 --> 01:38:39,416 everything I can teach you. 1429 01:38:39,958 --> 01:38:40,041 Yeah. 1430 01:38:40,041 --> 01:38:40,500 In the basics. 1431 01:38:40,958 --> 01:38:42,666 There'll be things, sure, I hope I can. 1432 01:38:43,541 --> 01:38:44,083 What is it? 1433 01:38:44,458 --> 01:38:45,291 There's another saying, 1434 01:38:45,291 --> 01:38:47,125 I'm not huge into sayings, 1435 01:38:47,125 --> 01:38:48,458 but there was another saying, it's like, 1436 01:38:49,500 --> 01:38:54,583 you teach them in their house, 1437 01:38:55,208 --> 01:38:56,458 they teach them the way 1438 01:38:56,458 --> 01:38:58,083 such that when you're older, 1439 01:38:58,083 --> 01:38:59,666 they wanna come back to you for advice. 1440 01:39:00,125 --> 01:39:01,166 There's a pretty saying. 1441 01:39:01,208 --> 01:39:02,333 There really is, and I 1442 01:39:02,333 --> 01:39:03,208 can't think of it either. 1443 01:39:03,666 --> 01:39:04,583 But usually it comes, 1444 01:39:04,583 --> 01:39:05,958 I want him to be able 1445 01:39:05,958 --> 01:39:06,750 to come back to me 1446 01:39:06,750 --> 01:39:08,375 when he's out of our house 1447 01:39:08,541 --> 01:39:09,000 for the rest of his 1448 01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:10,041 life as long as I'm here 1449 01:39:10,041 --> 01:39:14,000 to get my advice, because he wants it 1450 01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:15,916 and appreciates it and believes in it. 1451 01:39:15,916 --> 01:39:17,750 Right, right, values that. 1452 01:39:18,083 --> 01:39:18,875 Values it, yeah. 1453 01:39:19,541 --> 01:39:22,041 So it's just, have we raised him right? 1454 01:39:22,291 --> 01:39:24,500 And have we been good parents? 1455 01:39:24,875 --> 01:39:26,375 I mean, there's just so many different-- 1456 01:39:27,250 --> 01:39:27,458 Eights. 1457 01:39:27,916 --> 01:39:28,625 But that's where, 1458 01:39:28,833 --> 01:39:29,541 when you say you've been 1459 01:39:29,541 --> 01:39:30,625 in your career for 25 1460 01:39:30,625 --> 01:39:32,125 years, it's hard to believe it. 1461 01:39:32,833 --> 01:39:34,333 Well, it almost isn't because 1462 01:39:34,333 --> 01:39:36,750 we've got a kid driving now. 1463 01:39:36,791 --> 01:39:37,416 A kid driving. 1464 01:39:38,750 --> 01:39:39,541 Curedness gracious. 1465 01:39:40,583 --> 01:39:41,208 Which I was telling 1466 01:39:41,208 --> 01:39:41,833 the kids this morning, 1467 01:39:41,833 --> 01:39:42,291 I was like, you know, the 1468 01:39:42,291 --> 01:39:43,916 only reason we have this huge SUV 1469 01:39:44,541 --> 01:39:45,750 is because we have three kids. 1470 01:39:45,750 --> 01:39:47,041 Now that Bear drives, we can downsize. 1471 01:39:48,958 --> 01:39:50,250 (laughing) I was like, well, maybe not. 1472 01:39:50,250 --> 01:39:50,625 He'll still go to 1473 01:39:50,625 --> 01:39:51,375 church with us or something. 1474 01:39:51,416 --> 01:39:52,500 Maybe not, yeah, no, no, no. 1475 01:39:52,500 --> 01:39:54,208 He'll still ride with us. 1476 01:39:55,375 --> 01:39:55,791 There'll be times 1477 01:39:55,791 --> 01:39:56,666 when it just makes sense. 1478 01:39:56,708 --> 01:39:57,583 But that might be the only place, 1479 01:39:57,583 --> 01:39:58,166 like when we go to 1480 01:39:58,166 --> 01:40:01,000 church or a family movie 1481 01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:01,541 or something like that, 1482 01:40:01,541 --> 01:40:02,083 but he might be coming 1483 01:40:02,083 --> 01:40:02,708 from a friend's house, 1484 01:40:02,708 --> 01:40:03,666 I'll meet you guys there. 1485 01:40:04,166 --> 01:40:06,041 I mean, I'm not gonna, 1486 01:40:06,291 --> 01:40:07,166 I mean, I haven't talked 1487 01:40:07,291 --> 01:40:08,083 about it out loud, but I 1488 01:40:08,083 --> 01:40:11,291 mean, hopefully we raised our kids 1489 01:40:11,291 --> 01:40:12,208 in a way that they 1490 01:40:12,208 --> 01:40:13,541 wanna be around our house. 1491 01:40:13,583 --> 01:40:14,750 I know, I know. 1492 01:40:15,041 --> 01:40:15,666 I was never home. 1493 01:40:15,666 --> 01:40:16,083 Once I got my 1494 01:40:16,083 --> 01:40:17,041 driver's license, I was gone. 1495 01:40:17,041 --> 01:40:17,875 I came home to sleep. 1496 01:40:17,958 --> 01:40:19,375 And that was different. 1497 01:40:19,375 --> 01:40:20,291 Like my schedule kept me 1498 01:40:20,291 --> 01:40:22,083 away for sure from home, 1499 01:40:22,083 --> 01:40:23,250 but it wasn't because I could drive. 1500 01:40:23,750 --> 01:40:25,166 Like if I didn't have 1501 01:40:25,166 --> 01:40:26,416 something, I was at home. 1502 01:40:26,416 --> 01:40:26,625 Yeah. 1503 01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:28,458 You know, so that's 1504 01:40:28,458 --> 01:40:30,166 why I think it, you know, 1505 01:40:30,166 --> 01:40:31,500 you're like, we'll never see him again. 1506 01:40:31,500 --> 01:40:32,708 And I was like, well, yeah, we will. 1507 01:40:32,708 --> 01:40:33,583 If he's not at practice, 1508 01:40:33,583 --> 01:40:34,500 why wouldn't he be at home? 1509 01:40:35,750 --> 01:40:37,083 Because that's how I was. 1510 01:40:38,041 --> 01:40:39,166 Because you can go to the mall now. 1511 01:40:39,166 --> 01:40:41,250 You can go do whatever they want. 1512 01:40:42,041 --> 01:40:42,708 Oh, good night. 1513 01:40:43,166 --> 01:40:44,291 I'm not okay with this. 1514 01:40:44,708 --> 01:40:45,416 It will be interesting 1515 01:40:45,416 --> 01:40:46,916 though, because I was thinking, 1516 01:40:47,250 --> 01:40:47,833 you know, we're gonna get, 1517 01:40:48,041 --> 01:40:49,791 we have those tracker apps 1518 01:40:49,791 --> 01:40:50,458 and stuff like that where 1519 01:40:50,458 --> 01:40:51,583 you can see where your kids are 1520 01:40:51,583 --> 01:40:53,083 on them all the time, how 1521 01:40:53,083 --> 01:40:54,458 fast they're driving and stuff. 1522 01:40:56,625 --> 01:40:57,250 They didn't have that, 1523 01:40:57,250 --> 01:40:58,500 thank God, when we were kids. 1524 01:40:59,083 --> 01:41:01,083 I almost feel like it's too much, but. 1525 01:41:01,916 --> 01:41:02,500 Yeah, no. 1526 01:41:02,500 --> 01:41:03,208 Is that a helicopter? 1527 01:41:03,625 --> 01:41:04,791 I feel like that's almost 1528 01:41:04,791 --> 01:41:06,125 a helicopter parent thing, 1529 01:41:07,625 --> 01:41:09,541 but at the same time, it 1530 01:41:09,541 --> 01:41:10,750 does give me some comfort. 1531 01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:11,750 Like last night, I 1532 01:41:11,750 --> 01:41:13,083 looked where he was at, 1533 01:41:13,500 --> 01:41:14,416 and I pinned the house. 1534 01:41:15,208 --> 01:41:15,958 So now I know where 1535 01:41:15,958 --> 01:41:17,125 that friend's house is. 1536 01:41:17,166 --> 01:41:18,291 Yep, yep. 1537 01:41:19,916 --> 01:41:21,666 It is a little helicopter-ish. 1538 01:41:23,666 --> 01:41:25,208 I do think it's different though. 1539 01:41:26,791 --> 01:41:29,583 Where our kids will drive and the lengths 1540 01:41:30,375 --> 01:41:31,833 to which they drive is 1541 01:41:31,833 --> 01:41:33,541 way further than I ever did 1542 01:41:33,541 --> 01:41:35,541 when I was first getting my license. 1543 01:41:35,750 --> 01:41:37,750 I was not driving 45 1544 01:41:37,750 --> 01:41:41,625 minutes across the DFW Metroplex, 1545 01:41:41,625 --> 01:41:43,708 which is so busy. 1546 01:41:44,250 --> 01:41:46,000 And I never had to drive 1547 01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:47,583 in rush hour like that. 1548 01:41:47,583 --> 01:41:48,666 I mean, for the most part, 1549 01:41:48,666 --> 01:41:52,666 I didn't do that till I was 18 and older. 1550 01:41:53,333 --> 01:41:54,750 Between 16 and 18, I was 1551 01:41:54,750 --> 01:41:55,750 pretty much within the bounds 1552 01:41:55,750 --> 01:41:57,833 of the city I lived in. 1553 01:41:57,833 --> 01:41:59,708 In the suburb I lived in. 1554 01:41:59,750 --> 01:42:01,416 I wasn't. 1555 01:42:01,416 --> 01:42:03,041 My high school was 35 minutes away. 1556 01:42:03,791 --> 01:42:05,166 Yeah, and mine was five. 1557 01:42:05,875 --> 01:42:06,083 Right. 1558 01:42:07,041 --> 01:42:07,833 I didn't have the same 1559 01:42:07,833 --> 01:42:10,375 traffic as we have here for sure, 1560 01:42:10,375 --> 01:42:11,625 like where he's gotta go to Green Hill. 1561 01:42:12,166 --> 01:42:12,916 That's insane. 1562 01:42:12,916 --> 01:42:13,458 That's insane. 1563 01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:15,458 I know, but he might, I 1564 01:42:15,458 --> 01:42:16,083 don't know if we're gonna go 1565 01:42:16,083 --> 01:42:18,583 to the scrimmage on Saturday, but he 1566 01:42:18,583 --> 01:42:19,916 might drive to that. 1567 01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:24,625 That means we gotta free Saturday. 1568 01:42:25,958 --> 01:42:26,666 I'm going to the scrimmage. 1569 01:42:27,875 --> 01:42:28,833 I'm still gonna watch. 1570 01:42:29,750 --> 01:42:30,666 It depends on who the scrimmage is. 1571 01:42:31,125 --> 01:42:32,083 (laughing) 1572 01:42:32,916 --> 01:42:34,250 Probably like it better if we don't, so. 1573 01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:37,083 Well, all right, well, what 1574 01:42:37,083 --> 01:42:37,833 else do we wanna talk about 1575 01:42:37,833 --> 01:42:38,750 as we wrap up here? 1576 01:42:39,666 --> 01:42:40,500 You traveled, do you 1577 01:42:40,500 --> 01:42:41,541 get any good I'm peaves? 1578 01:42:41,791 --> 01:42:42,291 I do. 1579 01:42:42,541 --> 01:42:43,291 Oh good, what are they? 1580 01:42:43,333 --> 01:42:43,708 I do. 1581 01:42:45,166 --> 01:42:46,500 I know what one of them is again. 1582 01:42:46,500 --> 01:42:46,833 Oh my gosh. 1583 01:42:46,833 --> 01:42:48,125 You cannot get somebody that 1584 01:42:48,125 --> 01:42:48,833 fits in the seat next to me. 1585 01:42:48,833 --> 01:42:50,250 I cannot get somebody that 1586 01:42:50,250 --> 01:42:51,625 fits in the seat next to me. 1587 01:42:51,625 --> 01:42:53,875 Like, are you kidding me? 1588 01:42:54,791 --> 01:42:55,916 Like, and I'm not kidding. 1589 01:42:55,916 --> 01:42:56,500 They're like, we are 1590 01:42:56,500 --> 01:42:57,375 closing the forward doors. 1591 01:42:57,625 --> 01:42:59,416 We're waiting on one passenger and I look 1592 01:42:59,416 --> 01:43:01,833 and there is one seat next to me. 1593 01:43:01,833 --> 01:43:03,125 Literally the last passenger. 1594 01:43:03,458 --> 01:43:05,208 The last passenger and the 1595 01:43:05,208 --> 01:43:08,458 guy is six five, 300 pounds. 1596 01:43:08,458 --> 01:43:09,708 And I was like, and 1597 01:43:09,708 --> 01:43:10,833 you're sitting by a window? 1598 01:43:11,375 --> 01:43:13,000 Like, no. 1599 01:43:13,458 --> 01:43:14,333 Brings his own seat 1600 01:43:14,333 --> 01:43:16,541 extender or seat belt extender. 1601 01:43:17,166 --> 01:43:18,291 His knees, I mean, 1602 01:43:18,291 --> 01:43:21,291 like, he was a big guy. 1603 01:43:21,291 --> 01:43:23,000 And I mean, I am not kidding. 1604 01:43:23,541 --> 01:43:26,125 His right arm was in front 1605 01:43:26,125 --> 01:43:28,791 of my left half of my chest. 1606 01:43:29,625 --> 01:43:30,625 And I was just like, I mean, 1607 01:43:30,625 --> 01:43:32,083 so I'm like pinned against the seat. 1608 01:43:32,333 --> 01:43:33,125 I couldn't move. 1609 01:43:33,583 --> 01:43:35,250 I mean, I had the worst 1610 01:43:35,250 --> 01:43:38,625 back spasms after that. 1611 01:43:38,625 --> 01:43:40,000 Not the worst, I've had really bad ones, 1612 01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:41,791 but like my back was cramping 1613 01:43:42,291 --> 01:43:44,541 because I physically couldn't move. 1614 01:43:44,541 --> 01:43:47,666 And I had a normal sized, sounds weird, 1615 01:43:47,666 --> 01:43:48,250 but I had a normal 1616 01:43:48,250 --> 01:43:50,416 sized man on the aisle seat. 1617 01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:51,583 So it's not like I 1618 01:43:51,583 --> 01:43:54,333 could steal some of his. 1619 01:43:54,833 --> 01:43:55,791 It's like a passable seat. 1620 01:43:56,166 --> 01:43:56,375 Right. 1621 01:43:57,000 --> 01:43:58,166 I just got half a seat. 1622 01:43:58,500 --> 01:44:02,000 I mean, we love our bigger friends 1623 01:44:02,416 --> 01:44:02,916 because we have 1624 01:44:02,916 --> 01:44:03,791 friends that are bigger too, 1625 01:44:03,791 --> 01:44:05,916 but is it safe to say though, 1626 01:44:06,416 --> 01:44:07,750 if you own your own seat 1627 01:44:07,750 --> 01:44:10,166 belt extender by airplane, 1628 01:44:10,375 --> 01:44:13,916 then you need to think through your 1629 01:44:13,916 --> 01:44:14,791 seating arrangement. 1630 01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:15,208 Yes. 1631 01:44:15,833 --> 01:44:17,916 And be aware of the fact 1632 01:44:17,916 --> 01:44:19,208 that you're hanging halfway 1633 01:44:19,541 --> 01:44:20,500 over somebody else's seat. 1634 01:44:21,166 --> 01:44:22,833 I mean, I don't know. 1635 01:44:22,833 --> 01:44:23,625 We talked about it a little bit 1636 01:44:23,625 --> 01:44:24,375 because it frustrates me 1637 01:44:24,375 --> 01:44:25,625 because you get it all the time. 1638 01:44:25,625 --> 01:44:26,333 All the time. 1639 01:44:26,541 --> 01:44:27,416 And when, because we fly 1640 01:44:27,416 --> 01:44:28,416 Southwest a lot of times 1641 01:44:28,500 --> 01:44:30,208 before they had open seating. 1642 01:44:30,208 --> 01:44:32,041 So people could like search you out. 1643 01:44:32,541 --> 01:44:33,833 There's a small person. 1644 01:44:34,416 --> 01:44:35,125 I can sit there and 1645 01:44:35,125 --> 01:44:35,958 take up some of her seat. 1646 01:44:36,458 --> 01:44:37,750 I guarantee you 1647 01:44:37,750 --> 01:44:38,666 that's what was happening. 1648 01:44:38,750 --> 01:44:39,166 Absolutely. 1649 01:44:39,583 --> 01:44:40,833 They always sat next to you. 1650 01:44:40,958 --> 01:44:41,250 Always. 1651 01:44:41,666 --> 01:44:43,125 This wasn't a signed seat. 1652 01:44:43,166 --> 01:44:44,333 And this wasn't a signed one though. 1653 01:44:44,333 --> 01:44:45,208 So this was just bad luck. 1654 01:44:45,458 --> 01:44:47,541 I know, but maybe that'll change 1655 01:44:48,041 --> 01:44:50,125 now that Southwest is assigning seats. 1656 01:44:50,125 --> 01:44:50,500 We'll have to see. 1657 01:44:50,708 --> 01:44:51,000 Maybe. 1658 01:44:51,208 --> 01:44:52,083 We haven't done that yet. 1659 01:44:52,625 --> 01:44:54,458 I mean, at least the guy like, 1660 01:44:56,250 --> 01:44:57,416 okay, this is gonna sound really bad. 1661 01:44:57,416 --> 01:44:58,750 At least he like smelled clean. 1662 01:44:59,500 --> 01:45:01,083 Cause I have had one who 1663 01:45:01,083 --> 01:45:03,291 was absolutely atrocious. 1664 01:45:03,625 --> 01:45:03,833 Like. 1665 01:45:04,333 --> 01:45:05,083 You can be bigger or 1666 01:45:05,083 --> 01:45:06,000 smaller and smell atrocious. 1667 01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:06,458 He did. 1668 01:45:06,458 --> 01:45:08,875 Yeah, this man had major bathing issues, 1669 01:45:09,166 --> 01:45:10,375 but not this time, 1670 01:45:10,375 --> 01:45:11,958 but a different travel. 1671 01:45:12,458 --> 01:45:14,875 He had major personal hygiene issues. 1672 01:45:15,291 --> 01:45:16,500 (chuckles) 1673 01:45:17,208 --> 01:45:18,375 I laugh cause it's horrible. 1674 01:45:18,416 --> 01:45:19,958 It was absolutely atrocious. 1675 01:45:19,958 --> 01:45:21,666 And I learned from him that Botox 1676 01:45:21,791 --> 01:45:23,250 actually stops excessive sweating. 1677 01:45:23,750 --> 01:45:25,458 Yes, that is the 1678 01:45:25,458 --> 01:45:26,916 personal hygiene issue we were, 1679 01:45:27,583 --> 01:45:28,916 I was having to experience. 1680 01:45:29,208 --> 01:45:29,416 Yeah. 1681 01:45:29,541 --> 01:45:29,750 Yeah. 1682 01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:30,958 Cause he openly. 1683 01:45:31,666 --> 01:45:33,250 Openly shared that with me. 1684 01:45:34,583 --> 01:45:37,333 That was before I put the headphones in. 1685 01:45:38,125 --> 01:45:39,458 So yeah, we've done that before. 1686 01:45:39,458 --> 01:45:40,875 My headphones are in. 1687 01:45:40,875 --> 01:45:43,041 That is the international sign of, 1688 01:45:43,375 --> 01:45:44,708 I don't want to talk to you. 1689 01:45:44,791 --> 01:45:45,583 (laughs) 1690 01:45:46,708 --> 01:45:48,333 Don't tap me on my shoulder. 1691 01:45:48,333 --> 01:45:49,458 Don't tap me on the shoulder. 1692 01:45:49,791 --> 01:45:50,000 Yes. 1693 01:45:50,541 --> 01:45:51,333 Oh my gosh. 1694 01:45:51,333 --> 01:45:52,000 That was bad. 1695 01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:52,250 But anyway. 1696 01:45:53,208 --> 01:45:53,875 Well, I'm sorry, 1697 01:45:54,375 --> 01:45:55,625 but hopefully it's 1698 01:45:55,625 --> 01:45:56,875 cleansing for you to get it out. 1699 01:45:56,875 --> 01:45:58,666 It feels so much better. 1700 01:45:59,000 --> 01:45:59,166 Yes. 1701 01:45:59,750 --> 01:46:01,291 You again won the hardest week. 1702 01:46:02,916 --> 01:46:03,458 I don't know. 1703 01:46:03,458 --> 01:46:04,541 You didn't have it easy here. 1704 01:46:04,916 --> 01:46:05,541 It wasn't hard. 1705 01:46:05,750 --> 01:46:07,000 Tuesday was a lot of back and forth, 1706 01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:08,000 back and forth, back and forth. 1707 01:46:08,583 --> 01:46:09,791 Gotta wait for it to happen. 1708 01:46:10,208 --> 01:46:10,750 I got it. 1709 01:46:11,875 --> 01:46:13,583 Either way. 1710 01:46:14,416 --> 01:46:14,750 All right. 1711 01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:17,125 Well, I don't know. 1712 01:46:17,125 --> 01:46:17,583 I guess that's 1713 01:46:17,583 --> 01:46:18,750 probably our sign off, right? 1714 01:46:19,791 --> 01:46:20,291 Anything else? 1715 01:46:21,875 --> 01:46:23,375 I don't, you know what? 1716 01:46:23,375 --> 01:46:24,083 I think that's- 1717 01:46:24,083 --> 01:46:25,041 It's not slowing down. 1718 01:46:25,041 --> 01:46:26,166 Crazy train's not slowing down. 1719 01:46:26,416 --> 01:46:27,750 Actually, this weekend's not bad. 1720 01:46:27,750 --> 01:46:28,500 So that'll be good. 1721 01:46:28,500 --> 01:46:29,333 We'll probably crash. 1722 01:46:29,625 --> 01:46:30,333 We will crash. 1723 01:46:30,958 --> 01:46:31,750 Ooh, not the train. 1724 01:46:31,750 --> 01:46:32,708 The train won't crash, 1725 01:46:32,708 --> 01:46:34,875 but the train's gonna slow down. 1726 01:46:34,875 --> 01:46:35,666 Yeah, hopefully it will slow 1727 01:46:35,666 --> 01:46:37,916 down to a pace this weekend. 1728 01:46:37,916 --> 01:46:39,333 Only one, we have a scrimmage Saturday 1729 01:46:39,500 --> 01:46:40,708 and one on a scrimmage Sunday. 1730 01:46:40,958 --> 01:46:41,708 Oh, it's an actual game. 1731 01:46:41,708 --> 01:46:42,083 That's right. 1732 01:46:42,083 --> 01:46:43,583 On Sunday, which would be a big game. 1733 01:46:43,583 --> 01:46:44,416 We need to win that one. 1734 01:46:45,125 --> 01:46:45,833 Get some points. 1735 01:46:47,500 --> 01:46:48,458 But that's really it. 1736 01:46:49,625 --> 01:46:51,000 I am so looking forward to it 1737 01:46:51,083 --> 01:46:52,958 because my brain is fried. 1738 01:46:53,708 --> 01:46:54,125 Tracks, school tracks 1739 01:46:54,125 --> 01:46:55,166 started up, so that's fun. 1740 01:46:55,166 --> 01:46:56,166 So we're excited about that. 1741 01:46:56,166 --> 01:46:57,333 I'll put up some posts on that one. 1742 01:46:57,666 --> 01:46:59,333 Our daughter's doing her thing. 1743 01:46:59,375 --> 01:47:00,458 She's doing her thing. 1744 01:47:00,500 --> 01:47:01,125 Which is fun. 1745 01:47:01,125 --> 01:47:03,958 Then we got a couple 1746 01:47:03,958 --> 01:47:05,500 travel coming up in two weeks. 1747 01:47:06,458 --> 01:47:07,791 Lots of travel in the next two weeks. 1748 01:47:08,041 --> 01:47:09,500 Traveling all in the East Coast. 1749 01:47:09,833 --> 01:47:11,166 So hopefully the snow holds off. 1750 01:47:12,458 --> 01:47:13,000 Probably it melts. 1751 01:47:14,250 --> 01:47:15,541 I saw some video from New York. 1752 01:47:15,541 --> 01:47:16,416 It looks like there was 1753 01:47:16,416 --> 01:47:19,416 people walking around normal. 1754 01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:21,541 Good, good, because it was wild. 1755 01:47:21,958 --> 01:47:22,916 Yeah, I saw some other 1756 01:47:22,916 --> 01:47:23,833 video that was crazy. 1757 01:47:24,250 --> 01:47:24,458 Yeah. 1758 01:47:25,041 --> 01:47:25,208 Anyways. 1759 01:47:25,875 --> 01:47:27,500 All right, well, let's sign it off. 1760 01:47:28,500 --> 01:47:31,333 Sorry we are missing one there. 1761 01:47:31,333 --> 01:47:31,791 I know. 1762 01:47:31,833 --> 01:47:32,750 Thanks for coming back. 1763 01:47:33,166 --> 01:47:34,083 We appreciate it. 1764 01:47:34,666 --> 01:47:36,666 All right, well, have a great one. 1765 01:47:36,666 --> 01:47:37,458 We will see you again 1766 01:47:37,458 --> 01:47:38,083 next week, hopefully. 1767 01:47:38,541 --> 01:47:38,833 Yes. 1768 01:47:39,291 --> 01:47:39,625 All right. 1769 01:47:39,666 --> 01:47:40,375 Until then, cha-cha. 1770 01:47:41,375 --> 01:47:41,583 See ya. 1771 01:47:43,500 --> 01:47:46,458 (upbeat music) 1772 01:59:59,916 --> 02:00:01,333 [MUSIC PLAYING] 1773 02:00:01,958 --> 02:00:03,125 For those of you who are all thinking 1774 02:00:03,125 --> 02:00:04,041 that I'm a terrible mom-- 1775 02:00:04,291 --> 02:00:04,750 You're mid. 1776 02:00:04,958 --> 02:00:05,416 I'm mid. 1777 02:00:05,666 --> 02:00:06,583 As our kids would say. 1778 02:00:07,166 --> 02:00:09,916 I don't-- hair, really? 1779 02:00:11,166 --> 02:00:12,000 Go out on date nights? 1780 02:00:12,291 --> 02:00:13,041 Oh my gosh, yeah. 1781 02:00:13,041 --> 02:00:14,875 You get me in a steakhouse, you and I, 1782 02:00:14,875 --> 02:00:15,833 with a glass of wine. 1783 02:00:15,833 --> 02:00:16,875 I mean, that's amazing. 1784 02:00:17,250 --> 02:00:19,833 Irregardless, they could smell the city 1785 02:00:19,833 --> 02:00:21,458 on me from a mile away. 1786 02:00:21,791 --> 02:00:23,375 You know, I've never really 1787 02:00:23,375 --> 02:00:24,666 thought about it that way. 1788 02:00:24,916 --> 02:00:25,583 You know what? 1789 02:00:26,333 --> 02:00:26,958 This is going to be a 1790 02:00:26,958 --> 02:00:27,708 judgmental statement. 1791 02:00:28,250 --> 02:00:30,083 Literally, the sun was setting, and he 1792 02:00:30,083 --> 02:00:31,208 drove into the sunset. 1793 02:00:31,750 --> 02:00:32,750 And I was like, I'm 1794 02:00:32,750 --> 02:00:34,083 going to start crying. 1795 02:00:34,458 --> 02:00:35,875 16 is revolutionary. 1796 02:00:36,250 --> 02:00:37,416 We've got a kid driving now. 1797 02:00:37,750 --> 02:00:38,166 Kid driving. 1798 02:00:39,125 --> 02:00:39,625 Clearly, I've been 1799 02:00:39,625 --> 02:00:40,541 talking a lot this week. 1800 02:00:41,500 --> 02:00:42,208 I'm getting tongue tied. 1801 02:00:42,666 --> 02:00:44,458 It is a little helicopter-ish. 1802 02:00:44,875 --> 02:00:45,916 That means we've got a free Saturday. 1803 02:00:46,375 --> 02:00:47,791 I cannot get somebody that 1804 02:00:47,791 --> 02:00:48,958 fits in the seat next to me. 1805 02:00:49,166 --> 02:00:51,666 He had major personal hygiene issues. 1806 02:00:51,916 --> 02:00:53,916 I learned from him that Botox actually 1807 02:00:53,916 --> 02:00:55,041 stops excessive sweating.