Benny Ferguson: Your true nature is endless.
It has no beginning.
It has no end.
You're pure consciousness.
You are existing now on multiple planes of existence,
having multiple experiences.
Now you've had existed on many planes in many dimensions.
You've had many lifetimes that have led you to this point.
Think about it.
Many of you that are listening to this conversation, this
interaction, five, ten years ago, you weren't open to
this type of interaction.
Rod Bland: With me today is Benny Ferguson, Jr.
Thanks for coming on the show, Benny.
Benny Ferguson: Yeah, Ron, it's awesome to be here.
We're excited.
Rod Bland: Yeah, me too.
Uh, we were just saying off the air that's really
my first introduction to, I guess anything really.
Well, anything esoteric apart from UFOs because
I've been interested in that for a long time.
But as far as channeling goes, especially was
the work of, uh, Esther Hicks with, uh, Abraham.
And so I was really excited to get your email to, uh, have
you on as a guest on the show.
So, um, I'm curious about your, your personal journey
with channeling Abraham.
So can you share a bit about how this connection
first began for you and how it's evolved over time?
Benny Ferguson: Yeah, well, the connection for me, um,
I guess I started channeling back in 2012 is when I, when
I realized I was channeling.
Now, to tell the truth, looking back, I was, I had
already begun channeling.
I just didn't know.
And the funny thing is it was with school when
I was in college, um,
when I had a paper to write.
And this, this is, it seems funny and weird at the same
time when I tell it, but, when I would have a paper
to write, I would get, do all the research and have
the paper, have everything ready, but I could never
actually get my mind straight to sit down and write it
until the night before.
And the night before, it would be 12:30, 1:00 o'clock, it's
due the next day, and the whole paper, three, four, five
page paper would come through.
And, and now looking back, the way it happened, I was
being supported then and just didn't realize it.
So it was, You know, and then finding out later that
this is something that I had done before prev in
previous lifetimes and it's something that I said I
was going to do this time.
And so looking back Over my life, you know, starting as
a child, I was having what I called nightmares in like
early elementary school.
I was trying to, they were trying to contact me
and kind of get me moving along this path back then.
I just wasn't ready.
Right.
I was in religion and my family and all my
family was in religion.
So I had no framework for any of this type of thing
until 2006 when I had a spontaneous out of body
experience and so that kind of forced me to start looking
outside of religion and outside of all the things
that I had grown up around.
Um, and when I first started channeling, I
wasn't channeling Abraham.
Um, I was listening to a lot of Esther.
Uh, I had watched The Secret and, and kind of
got intrigued by that.
Um, I don't know how many people did this, but I, all
of the people that were in The Secret, I went and found their
websites and all that stuff, and I looked for information
on what they studied to get to where they were.
And so I found all their book lists and all these
things that they suggested, bought all the books,
read all of the stuff that they read, on their way.
And then of course I was listening to the videos
and that type of thing.
And then for whatever reason, you know, I started
channeling with, with Abraham and I, and I asked if it
was them, cause it kind of felt similar to how I felt
sometimes when I was listening to them on the videos.
And, um, we've kind of been doing it for a while now.
I guess probably, you know, 2006, I started, no, not
2006, 2012, I started and not shortly after It's been
me channeling them, but in the initial, it wasn't them.
And I know it wasn't them.
I could feel different vibrational presences on me
and I could interpret what they were communicating to me.
And I, you know, I recorded them.
Sometimes I would speak in some, I
started off writing it.
typing, trying to get the, make sure I could
hold the connection.
Uh, and then I moved from typing it to trying to speak
it because I was seeing other people speaking.
So I was trying to speak and make sure I
stay out of the way.
So the connection was clear, you know, and, and then trying
to just went from there.
And then when I asked the question, because like I
said, this feeling felt similar and they said it
was Abraham Collective and all of this stuff.
So I'm asking questions just for me.
You know, in the beginning, like, okay, who and what?
And so it kind of just progressed from there.
And we've kind of just developed and I've worked to
try to get better at allowing them to communicate through
me so that we can be the, the level of support that now I
know that I'm inspired to be, which is, which is supporting
beings who are human at this moment to be the most powerful
versions of themselves and know who they are.
While they're walking physically and not after
they make the transition.
Rod Bland: You mentioned the spontaneous OBE that occurred.
I'm fascinated by OBEs.
Can you tell us a bit more about what happened there?
Benny Ferguson: Yeah, it's, um, well, at the time I
was working in financial services, I was fully
licensed, uh, insurance, mutual funds, and different
things that we were offering.
And You know, I've always been a, a strong learner
and all of that stuff.
And so I knew everything that I needed to do.
I just couldn't get myself to do it right.
As far as the performance making the calls, there was
extreme fear of rejection there, uh, as far as one of
the fears that was in between me and being able to actually
perform, make the calls and, and go on the sales calls
while the guy that trained me.
He was very successful at the time and he's still
doing that business.
He's very, very financially successful.
Our vice president who had more, who has and had
multiple offices at that time.
I mean, he was doing close to six figures a month.
And so I spent a lot of time around these guys.
Right.
I ate with them.
We went to conventions and stuff together.
So I knew everything they knew about the business.
And so I, but I couldn't get myself to do the activities.
I didn't know then it was the fears and all of that
stuff that I had in my mind.
Uh, but so I was driving home one day, about a
30 hour, 30 minute drive from the office back home.
And I was just upset with myself.
Right.
I started crying.
I'm so upset.
Like what's wrong with me?
And I can't do the, I see these guys doing it, but
I can't get myself to do it to the level that I
need to, to even be at the place financially I
need to be for myself.
And so I think a couple of weeks later, I had, uh, and
this is what, this is 2006.
I had another fear based dream, nightmare.
Um, and right before I woke up, I told myself that I
was tired of being afraid.
And when I woke up, I was in an angry and I, it felt like
fire was coming off of me and I got up and I was standing
beside my bed and I was just furious at myself, you know,
just tired of being afraid of just life in general, knowing,
not knowing how to get myself to do some of the things that
I've always been inspired to do, you know, be in business.
And, and I've been leading since I was, A 14 year
old overweight kid, you know, I've been doing
things and leading people.
And, uh, my wife came around the front of the bed.
This is like at 1.
30 in the morning.
She's asking me to calm down.
And then it happened and I was behind my body.
My vision was 360 degrees.
I can see my body, I can see my wife in front of
me, asking me to calm down.
And it took all I had to keep myself from attacking
her because I was so upset.
And so what seemed like a long time was probably
just, you know, barely a second, maybe two.
Then I was back in my body and I turned and I, hit the
bookshelf that was beside me.
And so that's how I know it wasn't a dream, right?
So because the next few days, the next week, my hands
were still all bruised up.
Um, so that's kind of what got me out of the
religion idea and on the path of looking for,
okay, what happened to me?
I see that there's more now, so I need to figure
out what's really going on.
And Rod, I tell you, when that happened, I asked one
question that has kind of been the overarching umbrella,
which I've gathered, I've put everything that I've
learned up under, because you know, there's so many
different ways you can go.
Like you said, from, from UFOs and all of the stuff
out there that is, you know, non physical things,
psychic things that we, that are potentials for us that
we can go down, the road paths that we can go down.
But I asked one question, I said, Since I know now
that what I'm seeing and, and the body and all these
things is not the truth, I'm gonna find out what's
going on and what's true.
But what control and power do I have in and over my life?
That's the only question I've got because I can't get
myself to do what I, what I wanna do in my life here.
What control and power do I have if none of this
stuff is really real, if it's not the truth.
And so everything that I've learned, I've put under that
one question and everything that I've learned under that
question is what I have for people to support people with.
And so that's been my guiding point ever
since that happened.
Rod Bland: Yeah, there's often a catalyst, isn't
there, that causes you to rethink your entire existence.
Benny Ferguson: Yeah.
I'm fine.
And even with, you know, as I listened to other people's
stories and, you know, other guests that you've
had, it's very similar.
Rod Bland: So, um, I'm deeply grateful that you're sharing
your personal journey with us, Benny, and if it fills
a line for you, I'd like to invite Abraham to join
the conversation directly.
Would that be okay?
Benny Ferguson: Yeah.
Rod Bland: Awesome.
Just for people who are watching that maybe not
familiar with channels, could you, um, just describe the
process and what it's like for you to, to do the channeling?
Benny Ferguson: Well, it's not, it's for me and I don't
know if this is something that they have developed or
not they have developed, but.
I don't really have to do anything, right?
It's like, they're always here.
And, and I mean, they're here right now and they're
ready to start talking.
And, and they try to, they tell me to stop
saying we, right.
And that it's just us, you know, um, but I don't
really have to do anything.
There's no process or anything.
I just,
Kind of get out of the way and then just start
communicating what's being communicated to me.
And it comes from this direction.
I can tell you that.
It comes from this direction.
That's, that's where I perceive the
information coming.
But like I said, I don't really have to do anything.
So we can, we can rock and roll.
Rod Bland: Amazing.
So you're, you're, um, you're fully conscious of everything
that's said or like, uh,
Benny Ferguson: I am, but I, I, I remember bits and pieces
because I'd, like I said, I try to stay out of the way.
If I try to, if I try to interpret and understand
and participate, the connection is not as pure.
What's going to happen is when I first start, it may sound
a little slow and a little choppy, but as we go on,
it'll get cleaner and it'll be like we're talking right now.
Rod Bland: All right.
Fascinating.
All right.
Well, I've got it.
I've got a few questions here.
Benny Ferguson: Okay.
Rod Bland: Um, so, um, Abraham's mentioned, I've
heard mentioned often that our experiences have got
seeds or causes that's rooted in our thoughts and beliefs.
So how can we identify and transforming any
limiting belief undesired outcomes in our lives?
Benny Ferguson: Yeah, that's an excellent question.
That's an excellent question.
And we are here.
Yeah, we're always here.
We're, we're always kind of.
Behind the scenes, trying to, trying to push through.
Benny does a lot on his own through his experience
and he's had a lot and, you know, believe it or not, in
a short amount of time, we've supported a lot of people.
And so he has a lot of information, but we're
always behind the scenes and excited to come
through and participate in conversations like this.
Um, identifying limiting beliefs, identifying those
dominant ideas within the human, the being who is
human, which is each of you.
that limits you, that stands in resistance or in
conflict to that which you desire, that which you are
inspired to be, do, and have.
The truth is, it's right in front of you.
It's always in front of you.
Anything that
feels off, anything that you might call negative,
a negative happening, these are ideas within
you being reflected.
You have to understand that That which is appearing
outside of you is a reflection of, and the
truth is that those closest to you reflect it at a
higher frequency than what you might call a stranger.
But anything that's appearing outside of you
is a reflection of you.
It's telling you what type of ideas exist within you.
Now, you may not be conscious of those ideas,
But when you can start saying and believing
in yourself, okay, I'm paying attention to what's
happening outside of me.
This was great.
Okay, that's fine.
This experience, not so great.
I really didn't like it.
So what is it that was, is within me that aligned
me with that experience?
And we understand
that sometimes you don't want to take responsibility for it.
Sometimes you don't want to say, you don't want to believe
that I in any way had any part in creating this experience.
But your plane of existence is built that way.
Period.
That which is appearing outside of you is a
reflection of you.
Some way you are aligning with that experience.
The collaborative components that show up outside of
you in support of you to create experience are there
because of what you are offering energetically.
So once you have an experience that you, that is undesirable,
you can go into what you call your meditation and
ask your inner being.
And these are, there's, there's pieces and parts to
these things that you want to get, maybe get familiar with.
Before you really jump into, but our biggest suggestion,
what we support people in understanding is that,
number one, your imagination is a two way mirror.
It's not a one way mirror.
Oftentimes individuals think that, hey, they can
daydream or they can imagine something and put it on
the screen of their mind.
But think about your dreams.
When you have a dream, there's imagery there that
you're not putting there.
So where does it come from?
Well, it's coming from your inner being.
It's giving you imagery based on things that you
are familiar with trying to communicate with you.
So your,
so your imagination is a two way mirror.
It's a two way mirror or a two way window.
So what we suggest, you go into meditation, get yourself
into a high vibration, ask your inner being what ideas
Are there that's aligning me with this experience?
Or what ideas am I carrying that are resisting that
which I am trying to create?
And allow it to show you via the imagery of how the idea
is represented within you.
on the screen of your mind because you don't want to
skip over these things.
Resistance, inner conflict is not something that you
just don't, you just want to get rid of because
it's there for a reason.
These ideas inside of you are there perfectly for a reason
for you to support you when you're growth and expansion.
So when you become aware of these things, you
want to understand them.
You will first want to bring them into the light with the
support of your inner being.
You want to understand them.
You want to understand and know, okay, what's the
difference between these ideas that I'm carrying and
the truth of you and source?
And then you want to transform them.
And you transform them by utilizing whatever
imagery that you're inner being deems necessary
to release that idea.
And it's interesting, sometimes it may be casting
it off into space somewhere where you cannot reach
and it cannot return.
Whatever your inner being suggests, that's
what you should do.
But the crux of it is.
Allow your inner being to support you because it can see
that which is within your mind and body as a dominant idea.
That which you cannot see at the moment that you're not
conscious of, your inner being can see, but you have to ask.
You have to ask and you have to be in the position to be
able to allow that support and be aware of how your inner
being is communicating to you.
That's why we said there, there are steps from our
perspective that you need to play with so that you
can be familiar with.
How your inner being communicates to you.
Are you more feeling or are you imagery or are you both?
We've had clients that are one or the other or
they're kind of balanced.
Sometimes people are more feeling when their
inner being communicates.
They're more so about the feeling.
Sometimes they are more perceptive of the imagery.
But the key is allow your inner being to
show you by asking.
Allow your inner being to show you what is there
and then work with it.
That's our Sajid.
Rod Bland: Thank you.
One of the purposes of my channel is to wake people
up to the reality of who and what they actually are.
Like they're just not this physical being.
How would you describe the nature of us as human beings?
Benny Ferguson: Oh man, you're true.
Your true nature is endless.
It has no beginning.
It has no end.
You're pure consciousness.
You are existing now on multiple planes of existence,
having multiple experiences.
Now you've had existed on many planes in many dimensions.
You've had many lifetimes that have led you to this point.
Think about it.
Many of you that are listening to this conversation, this
interaction, five, ten years ago, you weren't open to
this type of interaction.
But now you are, and that's the result of your evolution,
not of this lifetime, but of multiple lifetimes that
have placed you here to listen to this interaction.
But the truth is, you are eternal.
You are infinite.
And the only reason you do not know that at this moment,
and you're not living and breathing that truth, is
your current vibrational expression, your current
position vibrationally that you're offering in
the contents of your mind.
That which you are believing in.
That's the only reason you don't do not know.
And that's by design.
At the same time, As you grow and understand the
truth of you, now you understand why you're
putting in not the work, but the play and practice
to get back to that point.
And it's not something where you're having
to add things to you.
It's about letting go and releasing the things that
are already within you.
The more you release, the more truth The more light
will shine through you.
It's about releasing.
It's not about adding.
Mm-Hmm.
Rod Bland: I've heard you say something along the
lines of that it's really important that you align
yourself with things that inspire you so that you
can live a fulfilling life.
And how do we distinguish, sorry, let me say that
again, how do we distinguish between these authentic sort
of soul level inspirations and, and things that
are more ego driven or societal conditioning?
Benny Ferguson: Mm-Hmm
Most of you that are, many of you that are listening
to this, if you have actually begun to play
and practice the work, if you will, of releasing,
you have become aware of those ideas within you.
Well, let's, let's talk about this.
Let's talk about ideas within you as mature beings who
are human that you know have been present for a long time.
Many of you, many of you have ideas.
You have been inspired to things that have been
present for a long time and you understand what we're
talking about because you have been around mature
adults who are about to make their transition and then
you have conversations with them and they talk about
things that they always wanted to do but they never did.
Those are inspirations.
Those are not just, hey, I think I want to do this, or
hey, that's, I think I want to get that car, or hey, I think
I want to go to this place.
Those are inspirations that bubbled up inside of them
at a certain point in their life, and they never left,
right?
Benny's dad talks about being interested in
being a marine biologist.
He said that multiple times in conversation.
But of course, he believes that he's too old to go back
to school and do all these things, but he will say it
out of his mouth that this is something that he's thought
about and been interested in for many, many years.
That's an inspiration.
And each of you understand that ideas that have never
left you and why the reason is so powerful and the
reason it has never left.
is because that idea was a part of the plan that
you set for yourself before you entered into
your physical body.
And if you can be of the vibrational expression of
the mental framework that allows you to move down that
path, there are things in place that you have been
set for you that help you in your growth and expansion,
your evolution, if you will.
Now, do you have to do it?
No, but if you're capable of doing it, you would
be breathing the life that you actually set for
yourself and that feeling
highly recognizable for each individual when you
know that you're living your life in the way that
you're inspired to live.
It's a way of living that It's part of what we're supporting
individuals to get to, but understanding that the idea
of being inspired to do something, that swelling of
high energy when something appears or an idea and you're
like, that would be awesome.
I really, really want to do that versus just
an, a fleeting idea of the mind connected to
the mind of humanity.
There's a significant difference in the feeling.
that allows you to understand and the longevity of the idea.
An idea born of the mind of humanity that sparks
in, it comes and goes.
That which you are inspired to doesn't leave.
It stays.
You go to bed with it.
You wake up with it.
You go to bed with it.
You wake up with it.
You get frustrated at not having acted on it.
Those are inspirations born of your inner being,
trying to show you a path that would be highest and
best for you to follow.
Yeah.
And what you just
Rod Bland: And there's a, there's a lot of suffering
and injustice in the world and it can be challenging to
hold this perspective that everything is unfolding,
you know, perfectly well from a higher viewpoint.
So how would you guide someone to reconcile their,
you know, people that want to have a compassion and a
desire to help with what's going on and there's this
kind of wisdom of general acceptance of how things are.
Benny Ferguson: The truth is, as you go down the path
of personal development, growth, evolution, from a
frequency perspective, the more you develop and elevate
yourself, along your personal journey, vibrationally, that
type of understanding opens up and comes into you and the
more you're able to accept the truth of the fact that
there is a greater planet world for each individual,
and that all is perfect, and that for each individual, if
you truly want to affect the world, it's a matter of where
you're placing your attention.
Right?
We had a conversation with someone recently, and they
were asking a similar question about things happening in the
world, and we brought to light for them, which they knew,
but they, you know, it's not where you place your focus.
They knew that simultaneously, while it looks like things
are bleak on the planet, at the same time, there were,
there are millions of people around the world consuming
information like this.
Right?
But you wouldn't know that because mass media
is not showing these type things, right?
So there is excellence, brilliance,
perfection at play.
Vibrationally, number one, that which you perceive to
be not so great is alignment happening for individuals
and for groups, right?
In a low vibrational position, but it's perfect because
each one was low vibrational on this plane of existence
before they raised their frequency and and got to a
higher place or positioned themselves to even be open
to these type transmissions.
But there's also another sector going on where
Individuals, like we said, are listening and consuming
this type information quietly, organically growing
in vibrational expression, cleansing themselves of low
vibrational belief systems, dominant ideas, and bringing
more light into the world.
Right?
And the more this happens, the more each of you as
individuals participate in this side of the happenings,
and the more light is released into and onto your planet,
there's a critical mass place that will get crossed,
to the point where it would be undeniable that you were
able to look out and see.
Experiences being created born of brighter light because
of the numbers of beings who are human on your planet are
allowing it to flow through each of them as individuals.
But it still comes back to acceptance, both
personally and looking out into the world.
Acceptance that things are happening perfectly and that
each one is perfectly on their own individual journey.
It really is about acceptance.
That was a perfect word to use.
Rod Bland: Abraham, I've read many of your books
and you've often emphasize the power of focusing
on what you want rather than what you don't want.
Um, yet we're also, this is a conversation I often
have with my wife is that we're, we're advised to
allow and fully feel our genuine emotions as well.
So how can we honor our feelings without sort of
amplifying the negative things through our attention to them?
Benny Ferguson: hmm.
Well, you honor them
by loving yourself anyway.
Yes, I feel this way,
but I'm not standing in judgment of myself.
I'm not calling myself good, bad, right,
wrong, or negative.
I'm just seeing it.
I see that I feel this way.
And I love myself regardless.
Now the question is, what is that doing?
What effect is that having?
The effect that that's having is that the idea within you
that is the catalyst of that, what you might call a low
vibrational idea, that is the catalyst of the feeling.
When you love yourself in the midst of feeling that idea
being expressed, The vibration of the love, the vibration of
the acceptance, the vibration of being excited, being able
to watch the movement within the mind and body and not
be moved by it, not be moved into action by it, that energy
is affecting the idea within you,
right?
It's disrupting the idea.
And the more often you're able to do that, you're
actually dissolving those low vibrational ideas that
are causing these types of feelings to present
themselves inside of you.
But it's about getting to the place where you're able
to, number one, witness those expressions within your body.
and being strong enough not to be affected or moved
by them, but to love them.
Loving yourself in the midst of it.
Does that make sense?
Rod Bland: Yes, that does.
That's, that's very useful.
Benny Ferguson: Awesome.
Rod Bland: So the, the, the path of spiritual growth,
for want of a better word, it can be a bit lonely at
times and, um, it's, or it's misunderstood by other people.
And this is true for me.
So what advice would you offer to someone who's
feeling isolated or perhaps a little bit discouraged in
their process of awakening?
Benny Ferguson: Continue the path.
Uh, intend, intend to come in contact with like minded
people because they're out there feeling very similar.
Sometimes feeling stuck, not knowing what's next,
not knowing if they're doing the right thing or not.
Right?
Not knowing what the next process is, what
they should be doing.
Um, and yes, oftentimes at this moment, individuals
who have become aware of the truth and are seeking
to be an expression of their truth are amongst
individuals not on that same path, not in the same
position, which is perfect because as you grow, You are a
vibrational model for those that you are around.
So it's perfect,
but you can look out, like we said, on your social
media and see that there are others on the same path.
You can intend to come in contact with others
on the same path.
But we do understand the, that feeling.
We do understand that feeling.
That feeling is something that
Benny has experienced and gone through often.
Often.
Even though he supports individuals who are on this.
path.
Intending to, if it's necessary, if that's a
strong desire, but intending to come in contact with
individuals so that you can have similar like minded
conversations is one way.
But the truth is, as you move down this path, the
stronger you will get because the truth of you in source,
in the truth of you in source,
all exist,
and what you are becoming is a powerful individual
who is not only detached from the happenings on your
plane of existence, but is a source of light on
your plane of existence.
Rod Bland: Hmm.
This question just popped into my head, so it must be one
that a lot of people have.
What actually happens to us when we die?
Benny Ferguson: Well, the first part of that is that
you never die, actually.
You just transition.
You make your transition.
And when you make your transition, you evaluate
that which you created in your life experience.
If we just use this plane of experience, you evaluate
what was created and you decide on the next.
Is there something that you want to continue to explore
on this plane of existence?
Or is there another plane that you desire to explore?
to go and create an experience.
It depends on that which you were capable of creating in
your life and also where you are in your soul's evolution
in the overall grand scheme of that which is You, but
there's no true death.
There's no death.
Consciousness does not die.
Consciousness exists.
Consciousness is eternal.
Therefore, you are.
Yes,
Rod Bland: I've heard you mention that in our
natural state we've got access to an abundance of
insights and guidance and I'm always looking for ways
to help, uh, tap into that.
So, um, what daily practices or rituals would you
recommend for someone to help strengthen that ability
to tap into that intuition?
Benny Ferguson: that is a matter of frequency.
Tapping into your, your abilities, your,
those abilities, those abilities that exist
for each of you is a matter of frequency.
What we don't, what, what is misunderstood or not
known is that Truth is a matter of frequency.
There are higher truths that open up to you based
on your frequency, based on your vibrational expression,
and therefore, and this is the evolution, this is
the growth that happens.
If you think about the
spiritual teacher, someone in your history that, that
made it into a book, right, was written about, or
something of that nature, the play and practice, the
meditations, all these things that they did for many,
many years, the releasing
that they played with and that they practiced that was a part
of their growth and expansion.
was about their vibration raising.
Which is the same thing for you.
As you go down this path of growth and expansion,
as you take in this material, and as you release
resistance organically, your vibration rises.
And when you hold a higher frequency, and it can be a
fraction of a, if we use your higher lower idea, it can be
a fraction of an elevation, of elevating in frequency from
where you are now normally.
That next level of frequency expression held consistently
will open you up to ideas born of that frequency,
which in turn opens you up to new and greater
truths and understandings, perception of life,
interpretation of life events.
This is what grows and expands you into being able to accept
that which is happening around you on your planet.
It's a matter of frequency.
It's a matter of vibration.
Does that make sense?
Rod Bland: it does.
So is it necessary for us to be really good meditators or
is there some Is it just a matter of if our frequency is
raised, that helps us like, you know, say through music
or just being in nature is, is, is that all we need to do?
Benny Ferguson: There you go.
There's the, the idea is to understand what the purpose
of meditation is, right?
The purpose of meditation.
If you think about someone sitting still, being still
in a quiet space where they're doing, they're
shutting off their senses.
Right?
If you turn down the volume on things so that you don't
have any input coming into your hearing, you have your
eyes closed so you don't have anything coming into
your, your seeing, you're not eating or tasting anything.
So all of those things are shut down and
you're being still.
And if you're doing a meditation where you're
just focusing on your breath, what are you doing?
You're giving your mind something to focus on
because you can't quiet the mind, but you can give
it something to focus on, which stops all the chatter.
And when all the chatter stops and your mind is not
jumping to and fro, normally on ideas of low vibration,
normally considering things that you do not want, well,
naturally, in that space, your vibration lives.
This is the purpose of meditation, giving the
mind something to focus on so that you can begin
to become aware of what it feels like within the body.
to not to be not to be weighted by all of those
low vibrational ideas that you're a person normally
considers throughout the day.
All the worries, all the doubts, all the fears
that are ignited within based on observing the
outside experiences happening outside of them.
That's the purpose of meditation.
But when you understand that It's all about
raising your frequency.
That's at the core.
That's what's happening when you give the mind
something to focus on.
Then you can shift.
Yes, you can still use it as a tool, but then you can shift
to exactly what you said.
Music is a perfect way, but actually it's anything
that lifts your spirits.
Anything that lifts your, when we say spirit,
we're talking about your vibration, your frequency.
It can be the remembering of a beautiful experience.
It can be a favorite song.
It can be the idea of the rainbow.
Anything that offers a pure expression.
If you can situate yourself in that feeling place and
lift even, like we said, even a fraction of an
amount above your normal walking around state and
hold it consistently.
the point.
And then understand why that matters and what you're doing.
You're conditioning your body.
You're conditioning your body to a higher
vibrational state of which your mind aligns itself.
Your brain begins to physically align itself
with this new vibrational state, but you have to
be consistent with it.
You have to be consistent with it.
Consistency is the key in this practice, in these processes.
Consistency is the key.
This is what all of your, what you would
call a spiritual master.
This is what they did.
They were consistent.
Oftentimes they went to locations to where
they weren't bothered.
But each of you listening to this information, if you
are living your life as a normal being who is human,
and you're about to play in practice of being consistent,
You're going to be much stronger more quickly than
those spiritual teachers that you read about because many
of them went to locations, isolated locations, to
get to the place that they were and they weren't being
bombarded through their senses by everyday life, work,
family, marriage, children, strangers, neighbors,
all of these things.
You are on this play about this play and practice
while living your life.
So you're getting stronger, faster, but it's still
about consistency.
It's still about consistency.
Rod Bland: Abraham, before we wrap up, I'm, I'm curious
if you have any specific insights or guidance for me
as the host of this podcast.
So what wisdom would you offer me in my role
as an interviewer and, you know, someone who's
trying to facilitate these conversations?
Thanks.
Benny Ferguson: You have done it some to this
point, we believe, uh, but be intuitive about it.
Allow your inner being to speak to you as you are
speaking to individuals and asking questions.
The questions that, and you have done it here, but look
for those deep questions to ask, that the answers will
resonate and cut deeply into your viewers, and truly, and
really, even more so than now, open them up to where they are
still simmering on the inside the next day, three days.
A week later, they're still simmering from that which
was offered based on the questions that you answered.
For you are connected to your viewers, right?
You are connected to your listeners.
So the more intuitive you are in asking your
questions, The more
effective the answers will be because they will
cut deeply, as deep as you can pull and allow
the question to come.
Does that make sense?
Mm hmm, mm
Rod Bland: Yeah, it does.
So, I, I have one, one final one.
It's, it's to do with things that you're curious about and,
um, Reconciling things that you're following the, sort of
following the lead of things that you're curious about and
things that are, you know, I guess seen to be of service.
And I, I feel like sometimes just simply following
what you're curious about is somewhat self
serving in a world where we need people to be more
of a service to others.
So how do you reconcile those two things?
What have you, what wisdom have you got for us there?
Benny Ferguson: Yeah, that's a powerful question.
That's a powerful question, and the answer
may be a little uneasy for many, but you have
to understand that This is a selfish journey.
This is a selfish journey.
Each of you listening, each of you as individuals, you
are the center of your verse.
And the truth is there's nothing that you have to
do, even though you're being inspired from the inside out.
But there's nothing that you have to do.
You owe nothing.
You're not responsible for anything, truly,
even though the mind of humanity says, When you're
a husband, you should ABC.
When you're a parent, you should ABC.
But actually, it's not true.
There's no shoulds.
It is selfie.
And what you don't understand is that if you selfishly
follow that which you are inspired to, selfishly
follow those things that you just mentioned, that
you're curious about,
you don't know what knowledge, wisdom, next
steps, reveal themselves as you follow those ideas.
That may help you be selfie.
A better husband, if that's what you're intending.
Help you be a better parent, if that's
what you're intending.
Gems are there if you follow your selfish expressions,
your selfish curiosity.
For that's why you're here.
When you make your transition, nobody else is there.
It's only you.
This is a huge misconception, because humanity has been
conditioned to believe that this spiritual
journey is about being all of these things to
others, when the truth is,
your ability to be of the highest effect and
influence to others is as a result of you.
of your personal having grown personally as an individual,
and you grow personally as an individually by following
that which bubbles up inside of you, and that which
bubbles up inside of you actually is only for you.
You see how that's kind of, there's like an inverse
thing going on there?
Rod Bland: Hmm.
Benny Ferguson: The more selfish you are about
following that which you are excited about, Especially
if you're on this path,
the stronger and the brighter of a light you are, number
one, a model for all of those you come in contact with.
But then when you start adding in that idea of acceptance,
you're capable of being
and getting closer and closer to being a full, free
expression of source for those closest to you and for those
that you come in contact with.
seeking your support.
It's a very interesting thing, but that perspective,
the interpretation, the understanding
opens up to you again.
It's tied to the frequency.
It's tough.
It's tied to the frequency that you're offering,
that you're breathing, that you're interacting
in on a consistent level.
The understanding of all of these things.
is in the frequency that you're offering.
So, if we were to suggest anything, it would be to reach
for the highest frequency that you can, as often as
you can, and try to hold it.
Again, conditioning the mind and body to that frequency,
and opening yourself up to the truths of that frequency.
And if you can do that, if you play with that and stay
with that, everything that you desire to understand
will make its way into you.
And when it starts to make its way into you, you will know.
And you'll also know that you're doing the right things
as far as your personal growth and expansion.
You'll know that you're on the right path and
moving in the right
Rod Bland: Thank you.
Is there anything that, uh, you'd like to get towards
in this conversation?
Anything you'd like to leave people with?
Anything additional that you'd want to say
that isn't necessarily a question I've already asked?
Benny Ferguson: Open yourself up.
Ask yourself questions.
Based on where you are, ask yourself questions.
Ask yourself what's next.
Ask yourself who you are truly.
What you are capable of.
Ask yourself those, those deep questions.
And don't be ashamed to ask them.
Humanity has been conditioned through its religion that
you have to be human.
Careful about what you ask.
That hierarchy thing, that authority hierarchy thing
that has been sewn into humanity's spiritual growth
that completely throws it off.
The truth is that you're talking to you.
When you ask the question, so it doesn't matter how angry
you are, it doesn't matter how frustrated you are, it
doesn't matter how excited you are, just understand
that you're talking to you.
So whatever the question that you have, or even if
you don't know what questions to ask, ask what questions
you need to be asking.
That will help you move down the path of growth
and expansion for you and expect the answer, right?
Expect the answer because you're talking to you and
the minute you start asking the question, the minute
you will start pulling the information to you that is
perfect for you in the moment.
That is what we think is something that needs to be
understood, needs to be known for, for those listening.
Rod Bland: Abraham, it's been a great privilege for
me to be able to talk to you.
Um, uh, there's probably more for Benny.
Uh, people are going to want to ask questions.
Benny, could you let us know, you know, briefly what
you've got going on as far as how people can get in
touch with you, if there's any particular services
that you offer people?
Benny Ferguson: Yeah, well, we're growing a global
community, which is exciting.
I've worked with people and have people in our community
now all over the world.
I have people in your, in your country.
Um, but yeah, you can find us at, well, we have, first of
all, to get people started.
We have a few free things, uh, free trainings.
One is, uh, at Iamthediscourse.
com.
That's a, um, free training that kind of discusses
who you are, and what you're capable of and why
you don't know it yet.
Uh, there's another free training that at www.
accelerated evolution.
com where we talk about the three attention shifts
that you have to make in order to know that you're
working at your foundation and it gets into the whys of
what we were talking about.
The purpose of meditation, the purpose of reaching
for a higher frequency.
We go over those things.
Again, there's so many different directions a person
can go, uh, on this path.
But if you want to know how to make sure that you're
doing the right things and working at your foundation
to really expand yourself as an individual, we go over
those three attention shifts.
Uh, you can find us on YouTube, uh, at Consciousness
Ascending, hyphen, Benny R.
Ferguson, JR.
Uh, we're always putting new material up there.
Uh, but if you connect with us through any of
those venues, then You will get the information about
what else is going on.
We do private sessions.
We have, uh, monthly workshops, and we have
a private community that's growing, uh, where
we offer, like, close contact interaction.
conversation, uh, weekly Q and A's for people who are really
about the play and practice of releasing the resistance
that they have in their life and expanding and wanting
to accelerate that process.
Rod Bland: All right.
Well, we'll put links to all of that in the
show notes, Benny.
Uh, thank you so much for being my bestie.
Let me try that again.
Thank you so much for being my guest today.
It's been a great pleasure to talk to you.
Benny Ferguson: Yeah, this has been awesome.
We really appreciate it being able to be of support and we
look forward to the next time.