WEBVTT NOTE This file was generated by Descript 00:00:00.789 --> 00:00:06.320 Welcome to the Soul Touched by Dogs Podcast, the show for dog lovers who 00:00:06.340 --> 00:00:12.000 see dogs not as toys or tools, but wise souls worth our respect and care. 00:00:12.580 --> 00:00:14.559 I'm an Herrmann, and I'm your host. 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:20.560 I talk to poor some humans, people who do great work for dogs and their people. 00:00:21.099 --> 00:00:23.360 So come and join us for today's conversation. 00:00:25.109 --> 00:00:27.189 Hello and welcome Vrushali. 00:00:27.209 --> 00:00:28.969 I'm super happy to have you here. 00:00:30.999 --> 00:00:31.839 Likewise. 00:00:31.849 --> 00:00:32.969 Thank you for having me. 00:00:34.139 --> 00:00:36.729 I really look forward to this conversation. 00:00:37.459 --> 00:00:42.259 Before we dive into the depth of it, um, let people know where are you based 00:00:42.339 --> 00:00:44.219 and what's your business with dogs? 00:00:46.099 --> 00:00:46.639 Excellent. 00:00:46.649 --> 00:00:47.229 Thank you. 00:00:47.289 --> 00:00:49.039 I am based in India. 00:00:49.239 --> 00:00:57.074 I work remotely with career oriented Pet parents who are based in US, uh, 00:00:57.094 --> 00:01:02.404 mainly the Pacific, um, time zones and central time zones, as well as Europe. 00:01:02.864 --> 00:01:08.064 The reason is, um, very interesting, although we can look into that 00:01:08.174 --> 00:01:11.764 once your listeners really want to know and want to connect with me. 00:01:11.764 --> 00:01:15.034 So there's a reason behind that, but that's what I, that's what 00:01:15.034 --> 00:01:17.014 I am based and that's what I do. 00:01:18.054 --> 00:01:18.544 Right. 00:01:18.814 --> 00:01:22.174 So what's special about pet parents? 00:01:22.244 --> 00:01:23.284 Like what do you do for them? 00:01:25.129 --> 00:01:30.869 Okay, so you know how the older we get, the more we ask, what if? 00:01:31.509 --> 00:01:38.159 And with pet parents, it's like we have dogs and we love them to bits and you 00:01:38.159 --> 00:01:43.499 know, as they age, we start thinking about what if I spent more time? 00:01:43.859 --> 00:01:46.889 What if I did things differently? 00:01:47.509 --> 00:01:53.969 So what I do is reawaken harmony to allow such pet parents to 00:01:53.969 --> 00:01:56.239 bypass the steep cost of regret. 00:01:57.099 --> 00:02:02.399 Um, by generating compassion and really spending time with their fur babies. 00:02:03.114 --> 00:02:08.084 Oh, so you're not missing out on like, oh, the steep cost of regret. 00:02:08.124 --> 00:02:08.764 That's juicy. 00:02:08.764 --> 00:02:12.394 That might just turn into the title of this. 00:02:12.394 --> 00:02:18.704 So, so what, but like, what would people normally, when they come to you, you 00:02:18.704 --> 00:02:20.104 know, like, what are they looking for? 00:02:20.104 --> 00:02:21.454 What do they say they want? 00:02:22.104 --> 00:02:24.654 I mean, are they, I mean, are people, because I'm feeling 00:02:24.654 --> 00:02:27.304 like, is this something that people are like really aware of? 00:02:28.144 --> 00:02:32.324 And say, hey, I really need help because I don't know, I think I'm not doing the 00:02:32.324 --> 00:02:35.784 best I can or like what would somebody typically say when they come to you? 00:02:37.424 --> 00:02:38.414 Great question. 00:02:38.444 --> 00:02:39.784 So I have two dogs. 00:02:39.824 --> 00:02:44.804 One is a golden retriever girl, uh, who, who's because of her energy level, 00:02:45.104 --> 00:02:48.254 uh, she's, um, mistaken for a male dog. 00:02:48.634 --> 00:02:53.754 And I have a rehomed rescue adult dog, whose name is Marshall. 00:02:54.224 --> 00:02:57.474 And because he's so quiet and he looks very docile. 00:02:58.254 --> 00:02:59.494 He's mistaken to be a female. 00:03:00.414 --> 00:03:00.794 That's funny. 00:03:00.824 --> 00:03:03.374 So I have two dogs and we go out on trips. 00:03:03.374 --> 00:03:04.804 We go on walks together. 00:03:05.154 --> 00:03:09.674 So when we are out, uh, the most common, um, comments that I get 00:03:09.674 --> 00:03:11.594 to hear are, oh, she's got two. 00:03:13.454 --> 00:03:14.594 Such cute dogs. 00:03:14.764 --> 00:03:20.609 And then pet parents want to know Um, what breed they are, um, if they've, 00:03:20.649 --> 00:03:25.299 if I've always had them since a puppy, the other questions I'm asked once 00:03:25.329 --> 00:03:29.709 they find out that Marshall is, uh, adopted, he's rehomed, they're like, 00:03:29.759 --> 00:03:31.819 oh, how did you go into all of this? 00:03:32.309 --> 00:03:34.619 And that's how conversations usually start. 00:03:35.379 --> 00:03:40.239 Oh, so now, and if they say, hey, we've just adopted a dog, can you help? 00:03:40.309 --> 00:03:44.219 Or, because I'm sort of thinking like the regret is the stuff that 00:03:44.239 --> 00:03:45.809 people become aware afterwards. 00:03:47.299 --> 00:03:48.199 So, 00:03:50.509 --> 00:03:51.469 you know, Absolutely. 00:03:52.039 --> 00:03:57.499 Um, so then I just asked them, what is it that they want to know? 00:03:57.519 --> 00:04:01.449 Because even with dogs, uh, you know, because you've got different 00:04:01.449 --> 00:04:04.049 breeds, you've got dogs with different ages, different genders, 00:04:04.049 --> 00:04:05.899 different, uh, backgrounds. 00:04:05.929 --> 00:04:10.099 So you kind of know that it's really, you know, it's a very dynamic combination. 00:04:10.439 --> 00:04:13.529 Similarly, first I asked them, what is it that they really want? 00:04:13.529 --> 00:04:17.234 Do they want help with, you know, Who do they just want somebody to 00:04:17.244 --> 00:04:21.834 listen to because even that's really important and then I go from there. 00:04:21.874 --> 00:04:22.204 Yeah. 00:04:22.224 --> 00:04:25.214 So, for example, they'll ask me what breed is he? 00:04:25.569 --> 00:04:28.909 And I'm like, I don't know, and I don't really care. 00:04:28.959 --> 00:04:34.119 However, I do know that he's a Catalan Shepherd, um, because I did some research. 00:04:34.119 --> 00:04:37.489 So there's a lot of background investigation, a bit of 00:04:37.599 --> 00:04:40.489 background research that goes into me as a pet parent. 00:04:40.499 --> 00:04:43.139 I'm a total geek about stuff about my dogs. 00:04:43.559 --> 00:04:47.859 Um, so when, you know, before getting, um, in touch with you, I listened to so 00:04:47.859 --> 00:04:49.799 many of the guests that you had on board. 00:04:50.124 --> 00:04:53.624 And they talked about food, they talked about the doggy planet, they talked 00:04:53.624 --> 00:04:56.064 about, you know, healing and stuff. 00:04:56.224 --> 00:04:58.244 So that is really interesting to me. 00:04:58.694 --> 00:05:02.754 And pet parents really come to me with a lot of different questions about even, 00:05:03.074 --> 00:05:07.764 um, so both my dogs are, for example, um, animal assisted therapy dogs. 00:05:08.224 --> 00:05:09.894 So what or not does that mean? 00:05:09.954 --> 00:05:10.994 How does that help? 00:05:11.434 --> 00:05:14.714 And then I will tell them that, you know, just having a dog around you 00:05:14.774 --> 00:05:19.014 and having humans around who are like, no, just keep your dogs to yourself. 00:05:19.514 --> 00:05:22.504 And six months down the line, when we meet back, they'll say, Oh, yeah, 00:05:22.504 --> 00:05:25.204 so and so now interacts with my dog. 00:05:25.314 --> 00:05:30.314 Just that much of building a relationship without doing anything else but a 00:05:30.314 --> 00:05:35.264 wagging tail and those puppy eyes is enough for, you know, humans to 00:05:35.284 --> 00:05:40.274 interact, get There's stress levels down and the dog really doesn't speak out 00:05:40.304 --> 00:05:45.534 much, but without even, uh, speaking out, they do so much for the humans. 00:05:46.054 --> 00:05:48.264 And that's a topic that I can go on and on. 00:05:48.874 --> 00:05:49.554 I love that. 00:05:49.604 --> 00:05:50.024 I love that. 00:05:50.194 --> 00:05:50.834 That's so true. 00:05:51.114 --> 00:05:55.044 I mean, I, I got your book. 00:05:55.604 --> 00:05:56.734 No, you sent me your book. 00:05:56.754 --> 00:05:59.504 I didn't like, I don't want to make it sound as if I went and bought 00:05:59.504 --> 00:06:00.724 it when you actually sent it to me. 00:06:00.914 --> 00:06:01.584 I could have bought it. 00:06:01.924 --> 00:06:07.944 And, but the, The thing that really struck me was how methodical you 00:06:07.944 --> 00:06:10.414 were when you brought in Marshall. 00:06:10.474 --> 00:06:14.184 When you brought Marshall home, like that seemed like it's almost like you 00:06:14.184 --> 00:06:15.904 took this like a research project. 00:06:20.524 --> 00:06:21.744 That is correct. 00:06:21.754 --> 00:06:23.034 Yes, absolutely. 00:06:23.654 --> 00:06:29.329 Because it all began with, you know, I kind of want Blossom to have a companion, 00:06:29.509 --> 00:06:35.979 a doggy companion, and it doesn't have to be, um, someone to mate with, but just 00:06:36.339 --> 00:06:38.559 an animal companion, not just the humans. 00:06:38.909 --> 00:06:40.749 So that's where my entire research began. 00:06:40.749 --> 00:06:46.269 So, and I began with volunteering, um, you know, it's a little, it's, I, 00:06:46.359 --> 00:06:49.349 I took the, uh, the roundabout route. 00:06:50.144 --> 00:06:53.894 Because it ended up being more satisfying, giving me more insights. 00:06:54.084 --> 00:06:58.054 Um, I worked, uh, so my educational qualification is, 00:06:58.094 --> 00:07:01.164 uh, in, um, a degree in commerce. 00:07:01.334 --> 00:07:03.154 Uh, we call it the Bachelor of Commerce. 00:07:03.454 --> 00:07:05.154 So I can be an accountant. 00:07:05.164 --> 00:07:06.574 I can work as an accountant. 00:07:06.919 --> 00:07:10.869 So I went to a veterinarian here and I said, Hey, do you want somebody 00:07:10.869 --> 00:07:12.239 in accounting and operations? 00:07:12.619 --> 00:07:13.989 And he was happy to take me on. 00:07:13.989 --> 00:07:16.089 So I worked in a veterinary clinic. 00:07:16.309 --> 00:07:20.139 So I found out what doctors do, what pet parents come to them with. 00:07:20.609 --> 00:07:24.189 And, um, or, you know, I work so different aspects of that. 00:07:24.209 --> 00:07:28.309 That's why I'm saying I'm taking the roundabout route to becoming a pet parent. 00:07:28.519 --> 00:07:32.449 So I researched about rescues, about shelters, about, and this 00:07:32.449 --> 00:07:34.859 whole world about, uh, dogs who. 00:07:36.229 --> 00:07:39.629 to be re homed came up and I'm like, okay, so Blossom's 00:07:39.649 --> 00:07:41.579 companion is going to be re homed. 00:07:41.899 --> 00:07:44.129 I don't want a golden retriever. 00:07:44.179 --> 00:07:45.559 I want a different breed. 00:07:45.889 --> 00:07:50.609 I don't care what breed it is as long as they can be, you know, kind of trained 00:07:50.629 --> 00:07:54.419 to be, you know, not make a mess in the house and not bark unnecessarily. 00:07:54.459 --> 00:07:57.369 Otherwise that the house is ruled by the dogs. 00:07:57.679 --> 00:07:58.649 They are leash free. 00:07:58.689 --> 00:08:01.859 They are cage free, but with a bit of discipline. 00:08:02.749 --> 00:08:06.359 So I went about doing a lot of research, and then finally Marshall came home. 00:08:06.359 --> 00:08:10.519 He's, I call him my secret Santa because he came on 24th of December. 00:08:15.329 --> 00:08:16.159 Absolutely. 00:08:16.409 --> 00:08:20.059 And the first, uh, you know, just the first week. 00:08:20.844 --> 00:08:25.284 I could see he would find a cozy corner in the room that most of us 00:08:25.304 --> 00:08:29.844 were in and he would just sit there and I could feel off him that I like 00:08:29.864 --> 00:08:34.384 being a part of a family unit is the feeling I got from him and that was 00:08:34.384 --> 00:08:39.634 just so humbling to know that That was something as simple as that was his ask. 00:08:40.054 --> 00:08:42.614 And I'm like, okay, you've got a home and let's just work 00:08:42.614 --> 00:08:43.964 out all the things together. 00:08:44.314 --> 00:08:45.784 So yeah, I'm a bit methodical. 00:08:46.924 --> 00:08:49.304 But that's beautiful because I think it's almost like the 00:08:50.184 --> 00:08:52.004 opposite of what most people do. 00:08:52.234 --> 00:08:56.284 You know, they just bring your dog home and they just like expect the dog to 00:08:56.284 --> 00:08:58.094 magically know how everything works. 00:08:58.534 --> 00:09:02.584 And what I love about the way You even unpack that in the book. 00:09:02.604 --> 00:09:08.834 It's like, you know, it kind of shows why it can actually be challenging 00:09:08.834 --> 00:09:14.784 because there are a lot of little things to think about and a lot of steps that 00:09:14.814 --> 00:09:16.794 one could kind of overlook, right? 00:09:17.074 --> 00:09:24.429 So if you compare how you went about You know, making sure Marshall fits 00:09:24.449 --> 00:09:28.609 into the family and what you see is that your clients or other people do. 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:31.199 What's the biggest mistake people make? 00:09:31.209 --> 00:09:34.569 Like what's the, what's the, what's the step that most people, 00:09:34.949 --> 00:09:36.649 uh, or too many people overlook? 00:09:38.369 --> 00:09:44.709 Okay, so I'm smiling as you complete the sentence because I'm so excited to share. 00:09:45.189 --> 00:09:46.359 Excuse me for that. 00:09:46.999 --> 00:09:50.439 Um, what I see is, you know, how you have those Instagram 00:09:50.449 --> 00:09:52.259 or social media memes where. 00:09:53.049 --> 00:09:59.719 One picture is when you have a meeting in audio, it's a whole messy face. 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:04.069 And when you have an online meeting on video, it's a well made up face. 00:10:04.249 --> 00:10:08.499 That's basically the reality when you get a dog home. 00:10:08.769 --> 00:10:11.089 We want to go all in. 00:10:11.704 --> 00:10:14.344 And we are correct in our place. 00:10:14.854 --> 00:10:22.064 It's just that as a dog, they, and they want to be a part of the family, the way 00:10:22.104 --> 00:10:27.864 they want to be a part of the family, the only way they know how is to jump, is to 00:10:27.864 --> 00:10:34.284 bark, and is to chew, because that's the senses that they are attuned to the most. 00:10:34.674 --> 00:10:39.029 And this gap becomes too big. 00:10:39.069 --> 00:10:40.439 It keeps getting bigger. 00:10:40.909 --> 00:10:46.029 Unless we sit down, give them space, we take our space and take 00:10:46.029 --> 00:10:51.839 it one day at a time and not have them into a well trained, um, a 00:10:51.839 --> 00:10:55.299 well behaving person from day zero. 00:10:55.759 --> 00:10:58.029 Yes, training starts from day zero. 00:10:58.069 --> 00:11:00.979 Yes, good manners start from day zero, not even day one. 00:11:00.979 --> 00:11:02.084 I don't even wait. 00:11:02.224 --> 00:11:07.554 The second he got into my vehicle was when, uh, his good manners, 00:11:07.664 --> 00:11:09.624 you know, instructions began. 00:11:10.034 --> 00:11:15.094 I don't like to call it training because I, I say the dogs trained me to become a 00:11:15.094 --> 00:11:16.986 better human, not the other way around. 00:11:16.986 --> 00:11:17.833 I think so too. 00:11:17.833 --> 00:11:18.464 Yeah, totally. 00:11:18.784 --> 00:11:20.194 That totally speaks to me too. 00:11:21.754 --> 00:11:22.524 Absolutely. 00:11:22.524 --> 00:11:23.934 So that is basically it. 00:11:23.934 --> 00:11:27.574 So give them space, give them time, give them a lot of love. 00:11:28.449 --> 00:11:33.289 And also remember to be disciplined in what you do with them, and you will just 00:11:33.289 --> 00:11:35.139 have a really beautiful relationship. 00:11:36.449 --> 00:11:40.359 So when you say be disciplined in what you do with them, what does that look like? 00:11:40.389 --> 00:11:45.389 Because, you know, discipline is a, I think in the dog training 00:11:45.389 --> 00:11:48.839 world can be a bit of a loaded word, you know, because it's, 00:11:51.104 --> 00:11:56.474 It's about being clear of how we do things around here, you know, 00:11:56.524 --> 00:11:58.194 so how, how do you go about that? 00:11:58.194 --> 00:11:59.764 How do you go about teaching your dog? 00:11:59.794 --> 00:12:03.434 Like, okay, you know, the suffice of limits or not, or like, I don't want you 00:12:03.434 --> 00:12:05.234 to pee in the house or chew up whatever. 00:12:07.714 --> 00:12:08.164 Excellent. 00:12:08.174 --> 00:12:10.314 Yes, you're, and you're absolutely right. 00:12:10.314 --> 00:12:12.814 There are different perspectives to discipline. 00:12:13.264 --> 00:12:17.884 Um, and even with my two dogs, their discipline angles are totally different. 00:12:18.709 --> 00:12:23.619 Um, but then I take into consideration the breed of the dog, so, you know, 00:12:23.649 --> 00:12:30.219 they're just naturally, um, a shepherd or a sheepdog could be an alerting dog. 00:12:30.219 --> 00:12:34.229 So his first instinct could be to bark and could be to round up. 00:12:35.229 --> 00:12:38.179 So you can't not take that into consideration. 00:12:38.569 --> 00:12:45.559 The second thing was that I did experiment with a long leash, um, enclosures. 00:12:45.569 --> 00:12:50.969 So he, the, uh, my leashes for both of them are, they begin with 500 meters. 00:12:50.999 --> 00:12:55.449 So it's like half a foot, one foot and two feet long leashes that I have. 00:12:55.449 --> 00:12:57.259 I don't have shorter leashes than that. 00:12:57.599 --> 00:12:59.899 They're always on a harness and not on a collar. 00:13:00.169 --> 00:13:04.514 It's just something that, um, I've realized that they like it, so 00:13:04.534 --> 00:13:10.154 I would experiment gently, that if, is he, is he food oriented? 00:13:10.274 --> 00:13:14.294 Then I found out that no, he really spooks, and food doesn't help. 00:13:14.799 --> 00:13:15.759 Comfort helps. 00:13:15.759 --> 00:13:22.259 He needs a, he needs a cozy, um, unlit place, and that's 00:13:22.269 --> 00:13:23.719 where he's the most comfortable. 00:13:24.169 --> 00:13:27.639 He likes being anchored, and how will I anchor him? 00:13:27.639 --> 00:13:30.899 I've got a long leash, but it's tethered to his spot. 00:13:31.169 --> 00:13:34.239 And he can roam around, but to a certain extent. 00:13:34.329 --> 00:13:39.659 And that's, to me, what discipline means is that they have some non negotiables. 00:13:39.669 --> 00:13:43.409 So when it's the afternoon or when it's late in the night, even if there 00:13:43.409 --> 00:13:49.359 is a disturbance, they will bark as an alert and not go into a barking frenzy. 00:13:50.169 --> 00:13:54.519 The reason, the main reason being I live in the heart of the city here. 00:13:54.859 --> 00:14:00.019 It's a very urban setting and there are a lot of senior citizens around me and it 00:14:00.029 --> 00:14:05.079 really messes up, you know, their night schedule if dogs are barking continuously. 00:14:05.464 --> 00:14:06.984 And they've understood that. 00:14:07.334 --> 00:14:10.774 And, you know, so that's, uh, one of the non negotiables I have. 00:14:10.784 --> 00:14:15.754 The other non negotiable is that you can't chew on a human being. 00:14:16.184 --> 00:14:17.104 You've got your toys 00:14:19.474 --> 00:14:21.274 and they've got a lot of frozen treats. 00:14:21.704 --> 00:14:24.834 Everything other than that is up for negotiation. 00:14:25.144 --> 00:14:25.814 Oh, I love that. 00:14:27.184 --> 00:14:28.614 Because I think it's all driven. 00:14:28.624 --> 00:14:29.784 It's driven by love. 00:14:30.324 --> 00:14:31.664 It's to keep them safe. 00:14:31.664 --> 00:14:33.864 It's to keep, and you know what I really love about what you 00:14:33.864 --> 00:14:36.274 just shared is how you really. 00:14:37.059 --> 00:14:41.199 Listen to the dog in front of you, you know, so it's not just like, 00:14:41.199 --> 00:14:44.099 here are the rules, it's like, okay, what does this dog need? 00:14:44.129 --> 00:14:45.109 What does this dog need? 00:14:45.389 --> 00:14:51.539 And I think we can do a lot of good for our dogs if we just follow that one rule. 00:14:51.619 --> 00:14:55.849 So like, literally listen to the dog in front of you and experiment, right? 00:14:55.849 --> 00:14:59.589 To try stuff out, to see what works, what works best. 00:15:00.059 --> 00:15:01.809 I, I just totally love that. 00:15:01.849 --> 00:15:06.724 And, um, You know, I really wish, I mean, I want to ask you, where can people 00:15:06.754 --> 00:15:11.504 get the, get your book and, um, you know, find out more about you, connect 00:15:11.504 --> 00:15:14.578 with you, what are you going to say? 00:15:14.578 --> 00:15:14.854 Definitely. 00:15:14.854 --> 00:15:15.869 for saying that. 00:15:15.869 --> 00:15:21.384 It is, and it feels like a struggle initially. 00:15:22.374 --> 00:15:25.014 Uh, think about it like getting to know a new friend. 00:15:25.204 --> 00:15:30.084 Uh, when we go to school, uh, as children or as adults, young adults, the, the 00:15:30.124 --> 00:15:34.604 college environment, the high school environment is new for us as a person. 00:15:34.964 --> 00:15:38.444 So we want to experiment, we want to see who the cool kids are, 00:15:38.454 --> 00:15:42.194 who, you know, the quiet ones are, who really want to be friends. 00:15:42.584 --> 00:15:47.754 And it takes time for us to make friends, uh, be acquainted with other students. 00:15:48.374 --> 00:15:52.434 Uh, so, you know, if we look at that perspective and just take the 00:15:52.434 --> 00:15:57.164 whole chunk of that and move it to dog parenting, um, it'll make our 00:15:57.164 --> 00:15:59.654 lives more stress free, I would say. 00:15:59.654 --> 00:16:04.344 You know, give yourself some grace that every dog is different and you 00:16:04.354 --> 00:16:06.174 want to do what's best for them. 00:16:06.684 --> 00:16:08.564 So, uh, just go about it a little kindly. 00:16:09.684 --> 00:16:10.354 I love that. 00:16:10.434 --> 00:16:11.074 I love that. 00:16:11.474 --> 00:16:14.894 So where can people get the book and, you know, connect with you? 00:16:16.969 --> 00:16:21.779 So definitely, just for your guests and your listeners, I do have a special 00:16:22.679 --> 00:16:27.239 offer, which you will put in the notes, so I'm not going to say it out loud, but 00:16:27.239 --> 00:16:29.599 where they can get the book is on Amazon. 00:16:29.599 --> 00:16:35.819 Um Two, uh, online sites, which is KOBO, COPO and on Google Books. 00:16:36.089 --> 00:16:38.969 And if they go to my website, uh, which is R okay. 00:16:40.179 --> 00:16:45.369 Uh, it's a very unique name and I believe your, uh, listeners will remember it. 00:16:45.519 --> 00:16:47.949 So I'm gonna say it a little slowly. 00:16:48.779 --> 00:16:54.489 , it's, uh, r and blossom.com because Rosa. 00:16:58.294 --> 00:17:01.904 And Blossom is my dog's name, and we work together as a team. 00:17:02.504 --> 00:17:05.324 That's why it has to be me and my dog, so it's Roshani. 00:17:05.394 --> 00:17:06.296 I love that. 00:17:06.296 --> 00:17:07.380 And Blossom. 00:17:07.380 --> 00:17:07.922 com. 00:17:07.922 --> 00:17:11.796 And so now I'm thinking, like, the more dogs you get, then it's 00:17:11.796 --> 00:17:13.961 gonna get longer and longer. 00:17:13.961 --> 00:17:14.394 Absolutely. 00:17:15.954 --> 00:17:21.749 And if they put in forward slash, Adopt hyphen, don't hyphen shop. 00:17:21.749 --> 00:17:24.419 So adopt, don't shop, dashes in between. 00:17:24.739 --> 00:17:26.419 That's where they can get my e books. 00:17:26.969 --> 00:17:27.629 I love that. 00:17:27.629 --> 00:17:27.959 I love that. 00:17:28.159 --> 00:17:32.209 Well, thank you so much because I think there's so much, um, 00:17:34.369 --> 00:17:38.949 like practical tips, but also I love, I just love the attitude you bring to this. 00:17:38.959 --> 00:17:40.759 So like, thank you so much. 00:17:40.759 --> 00:17:44.729 This was absolutely delightful and I can't wait to connect with you again. 00:17:46.509 --> 00:17:47.459 Thank you for having me. 00:17:47.709 --> 00:17:48.439 Bye. 00:17:49.079 --> 00:17:49.309 Bye. 00:17:50.363 --> 00:17:51.593 Thanks so much for listening. 00:17:52.113 --> 00:17:56.413 If you enjoyed the episode, don't forget to subscribe, and leave a review so 00:17:56.513 --> 00:17:58.293 other dog lovers can find the show. 00:17:59.083 --> 00:18:02.573 If you haven't already, head over to soul touched by dogs. 00:18:03.003 --> 00:18:08.573 com and sign up for weekly doggy cuteness tips, recommendations, and personal 00:18:08.673 --> 00:18:11.043 stories to warm your dog loving heart. 00:18:11.043 --> 00:18:14.773 And if you know a pawsome human you think I should interview, 00:18:15.193 --> 00:18:16.333 I'd love an introduction. 00:18:16.813 --> 00:18:18.643 Email me at Anke. 00:18:18.913 --> 00:18:23.148 That's A N k E at Soul touched by dogs.com.