WEBVTT NOTE This file was generated by Descript 00:00:00.789 --> 00:00:06.320 Welcome to the Soul Touched by Dogs Podcast, the show for dog lovers who 00:00:06.340 --> 00:00:12.000 see dogs not as toys or tools, but wise souls worth our respect and care. 00:00:12.580 --> 00:00:14.559 I'm an Herrmann, and I'm your host. 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:20.560 I talk to poor some humans, people who do great work for dogs and their people. 00:00:21.099 --> 00:00:23.360 So come and join us for today's conversation. 00:00:25.428 --> 00:00:26.518 Anke: Hello and welcome, Therese. 00:00:27.298 --> 00:00:32.028 I can't, I'm like super excited to have you back here. 00:00:32.028 --> 00:00:33.618 Therese: I can tell, I'm thrilled. 00:00:34.408 --> 00:00:36.958 Yes, we connected around dogs. 00:00:36.978 --> 00:00:41.628 So how, how apropos that here we are celebrating this new baby of yours, right? 00:00:41.648 --> 00:00:41.768 I 00:00:41.768 --> 00:00:42.668 Anke: know, I know, I know. 00:00:42.668 --> 00:00:44.428 It's just like, couldn't be more perfect. 00:00:44.458 --> 00:00:48.758 And you couldn't be the more perfect person to come on, on this, right? 00:00:48.798 --> 00:00:54.043 Because We've had the conversation and I know that you have a real special 00:00:54.043 --> 00:00:59.413 connection with, with, with your dog and, you know, let people know, you 00:00:59.413 --> 00:01:03.843 know, like where you're based, who's Therese and you know, who's your dog? 00:01:05.483 --> 00:01:07.693 Therese: So I'm, I'm in Scottsdale, Arizona. 00:01:08.193 --> 00:01:11.323 Um, I'm, I call myself the intuitive business mentor. 00:01:11.323 --> 00:01:13.253 So basically I work with business women. 00:01:13.603 --> 00:01:16.653 You know, their lives and their businesses, but my real 00:01:16.653 --> 00:01:18.913 job is being Murphy's dog mom. 00:01:19.303 --> 00:01:22.453 And so, um, let me tell you about Murphy. 00:01:22.493 --> 00:01:23.043 So we got him. 00:01:23.043 --> 00:01:24.743 He was called a cattle dog. 00:01:24.933 --> 00:01:26.393 Uh, that's the breed cattle dog. 00:01:26.853 --> 00:01:28.073 He's very unique looking. 00:01:28.083 --> 00:01:30.793 I don't know if we have pictures, but we could do, we will do pictures, whatever. 00:01:30.803 --> 00:01:31.553 He's gorgeous. 00:01:32.023 --> 00:01:35.663 And he, he was brought in as a dog for our, for our first dog. 00:01:36.123 --> 00:01:40.523 And sadly, that dog got killed, and so then I inherited this dog that 00:01:40.523 --> 00:01:42.123 never really connected with us. 00:01:42.133 --> 00:01:45.963 He was Finley's dog, like, she was so needy and wild and like, 00:01:46.003 --> 00:01:47.533 anxious and kind of a mess. 00:01:47.973 --> 00:01:49.873 So he was like, whatever, okay. 00:01:49.873 --> 00:01:52.723 And when she got killed, because they had been, they got, they escaped from 00:01:52.723 --> 00:01:54.813 the yard, and she got hit by a car. 00:01:54.813 --> 00:01:57.533 So he witnessed that, and it was, so it was very bad. 00:01:57.533 --> 00:02:00.843 So I inherited this dog, I think for a month or two, he didn't even 00:02:00.843 --> 00:02:01.813 come out of the bedroom, Anke. 00:02:01.823 --> 00:02:03.343 He was so depressed. 00:02:03.883 --> 00:02:05.863 didn't really have anything to do with us. 00:02:05.873 --> 00:02:08.433 He was just like, you know, he's traumatized. 00:02:08.433 --> 00:02:09.103 He was anxious. 00:02:09.103 --> 00:02:10.363 So that's where we started. 00:02:10.873 --> 00:02:11.193 Wow. 00:02:11.533 --> 00:02:15.703 So after Finley died, I was like, okay, I gotta give Murphy a better life. 00:02:15.713 --> 00:02:17.973 And I didn't, I did what a lot of consumers do. 00:02:18.043 --> 00:02:21.828 I went on Instagram and I started trying to learn, right? 00:02:21.878 --> 00:02:25.478 And so I followed all these dog trainers, right? 00:02:25.478 --> 00:02:27.488 And I, and I was, I was committed. 00:02:27.528 --> 00:02:30.528 And part of my grief was like, okay, Finley, I'll give 00:02:30.528 --> 00:02:31.728 your brother a better life. 00:02:31.728 --> 00:02:33.668 Like I was like, I have to do this for Finley. 00:02:34.298 --> 00:02:37.238 Cause you know, truthfully, this was the, and I, I feel. 00:02:37.408 --> 00:02:41.858 Horrible to say this, when Finley was killed, it was like the wrong dog died, 00:02:42.648 --> 00:02:46.728 and I felt horrible because she was like the soulmate dog, and he was just 00:02:46.748 --> 00:02:51.538 kind of, he was like the background dude that never really was, he wasn't 00:02:51.538 --> 00:02:56.838 affectionate, you couldn't pet him, he was, so I get this dog is a mess, right? 00:02:56.938 --> 00:03:01.818 So go on Instagram, and I had a very bad dog accent after about a year of training, 00:03:01.878 --> 00:03:05.798 just kind of walking with him and trying to do things, he was still super reactive. 00:03:06.353 --> 00:03:10.063 So at one point, Anke, I was, I was sitting in a park, had a leash in my 00:03:10.063 --> 00:03:13.283 hand, he was sitting behind me, and I guess there was probably a scary 00:03:13.283 --> 00:03:18.073 homeless man or something that walked behind me, and Murphy just took off. 00:03:18.073 --> 00:03:19.513 He'd never done that before. 00:03:19.833 --> 00:03:22.903 Ripped the leash out of my hand, and then I had, like, I'd have 00:03:22.903 --> 00:03:24.253 a screw in my fingers today. 00:03:24.473 --> 00:03:26.523 I had a massive injury. 00:03:26.948 --> 00:03:28.528 Because of his reactivity. 00:03:28.548 --> 00:03:31.008 So in my world, like, I got to do something else. 00:03:31.038 --> 00:03:35.438 This is the, it's not safe, you know, he'd never done that before, 00:03:35.438 --> 00:03:37.888 but I probably he was protecting me because the guy was kind of weird. 00:03:38.398 --> 00:03:44.058 So, fast forward, the next year, I went on a vacation and for the first time ever. 00:03:44.348 --> 00:03:48.478 I did a board and train, and I put him with a local trainer. 00:03:48.478 --> 00:03:50.628 It's called, um, Bouncing Paws Dog Trainer. 00:03:50.648 --> 00:03:51.738 The man is named Yoni. 00:03:52.668 --> 00:03:53.488 Fabulous! 00:03:53.508 --> 00:03:59.768 So, so I am a wreck, because my dog has lunged, like, he was so reactive and wild. 00:04:00.228 --> 00:04:02.378 And so I leave him with Yoni for two weeks, and then I 00:04:02.378 --> 00:04:03.298 come back, and I'm like... 00:04:03.793 --> 00:04:09.103 What have you, wait, who are you, what, I'll never forget, like, like, 00:04:09.133 --> 00:04:12.513 here's, here's the difference with the psychology, the dog psychology, right? 00:04:13.103 --> 00:04:18.223 I feel like the mistakes I made with both Finley and Murphy, I think 00:04:18.263 --> 00:04:23.403 sometimes being loving is actually feeding their anxiety, right? 00:04:23.413 --> 00:04:27.083 So when I dropped Murphy off at the board and train, I had met with Yoni beforehand 00:04:27.083 --> 00:04:30.263 and now I was going to drop Murphy, so I have the leash, he, Yoni says to me. 00:04:31.013 --> 00:04:32.783 You are going to give me the leash. 00:04:33.133 --> 00:04:34.433 You're not going to talk to Murphy. 00:04:34.433 --> 00:04:35.733 You're not going to say goodbye to Murphy. 00:04:35.733 --> 00:04:36.893 You're going to walk away. 00:04:37.103 --> 00:04:37.583 And I'm like, 00:04:40.843 --> 00:04:43.513 he goes, because if you get all emotional, that's going to be a 00:04:43.513 --> 00:04:44.843 problem for me when you leave him here. 00:04:44.863 --> 00:04:46.803 And I'm like, okay, oh God. 00:04:47.093 --> 00:04:49.853 And so then, then after two and a half weeks, I come back 00:04:49.893 --> 00:04:51.143 and I'm going to pick him up. 00:04:51.933 --> 00:04:54.033 I literally just got off a plane from Ireland. 00:04:54.043 --> 00:04:55.013 I'm exhausted. 00:04:55.013 --> 00:04:56.103 I'm going to go get the dog. 00:04:56.113 --> 00:04:57.963 And he's like, Hey, there's a, there's a group class. 00:04:57.963 --> 00:04:58.943 You want to do a group class? 00:04:58.943 --> 00:05:01.413 I was like, okay, part of the group classes. 00:05:01.873 --> 00:05:05.423 You serpentine your dog through through a trail of all the other dogs. 00:05:06.203 --> 00:05:07.243 I'm ready to throw up. 00:05:07.253 --> 00:05:09.623 I'm just like, oh, there's going to be raping and pillaging. 00:05:09.633 --> 00:05:11.133 Like, it's just going to be a bloody mess. 00:05:11.833 --> 00:05:13.353 And what he says to me is. 00:05:14.163 --> 00:05:16.233 Relax your mind and trust your dog. 00:05:17.563 --> 00:05:20.813 Because what I have learned, thanks to Yoni, is what we do is we 00:05:20.813 --> 00:05:22.683 project all our stuff onto our dog. 00:05:22.773 --> 00:05:24.193 I had stories. 00:05:24.383 --> 00:05:25.663 I started with the story of Murphy. 00:05:26.093 --> 00:05:27.173 Oh, he was reactive. 00:05:27.203 --> 00:05:28.123 Oh, he had grief. 00:05:28.153 --> 00:05:28.683 Oh, he had... 00:05:28.713 --> 00:05:31.143 And it's much like the work I do with my clients, right? 00:05:31.153 --> 00:05:31.553 That's funny. 00:05:31.673 --> 00:05:35.573 We have stories about, well, because of his history, oh, 00:05:35.583 --> 00:05:36.713 that's not going to happen. 00:05:36.713 --> 00:05:40.243 Or because he came from there, well, he has all these issues. 00:05:41.328 --> 00:05:43.998 And yet Yoni showed me neutrality. 00:05:44.068 --> 00:05:49.773 If you just be a strong leader and, and just trust your dog. 00:05:52.753 --> 00:05:56.013 So what I ended up doing is I put a bunch of work in. 00:05:56.033 --> 00:06:01.443 Now I will say I'm a big fan of the tools because with my other reactive 00:06:01.443 --> 00:06:05.883 dog, Finley, I tried trainers and they didn't work because they, in my 00:06:05.883 --> 00:06:09.703 estimation, this is my belief, they were not using the appropriate tools. 00:06:10.103 --> 00:06:13.453 So Yoni had Murphy on a prong collar and he had him on an E collar. 00:06:14.123 --> 00:06:17.693 And I know there are people like, oh, no, no, it's like, it's a buzz. 00:06:17.853 --> 00:06:18.503 That's all it is. 00:06:18.513 --> 00:06:19.983 It's literally a state change. 00:06:19.993 --> 00:06:21.483 It's no different from a clicker. 00:06:21.533 --> 00:06:22.913 It's just a little reminder. 00:06:23.523 --> 00:06:29.433 And so that one tool we, I went literally from, I was terrified to take Murphy out 00:06:29.433 --> 00:06:31.103 because he was lunging at all the things. 00:06:32.073 --> 00:06:36.263 To now we have a little dog group in the neighborhood. 00:06:36.543 --> 00:06:38.963 Now he, he has dog friends. 00:06:39.553 --> 00:06:40.233 I take him. 00:06:40.918 --> 00:06:45.448 We walk on the bike path, and if there's a bike approaching, I say, sit, and 00:06:45.448 --> 00:06:46.558 he just sits, and people are like... 00:06:47.263 --> 00:06:48.633 What a good dog he is. 00:06:48.643 --> 00:06:50.403 He's off leash all the time. 00:06:50.923 --> 00:06:58.523 He's a joy because I got out of my own way and I, I took him to an expert and 00:06:58.523 --> 00:07:00.203 then I listened and I did the work. 00:07:00.293 --> 00:07:01.863 So that's, that's the work. 00:07:02.323 --> 00:07:02.463 I 00:07:02.463 --> 00:07:02.723 Anke: love it. 00:07:02.913 --> 00:07:03.193 I love it. 00:07:03.253 --> 00:07:09.453 And so do you know anything about like how, what he did to achieve that? 00:07:09.513 --> 00:07:13.283 And also you doing the work, what did that actually mean? 00:07:14.333 --> 00:07:19.503 Therese: Doing the work, well, so what he did is he, he took the emotionality 00:07:19.543 --> 00:07:24.213 out of, you know, and, and it really is, you have to be a strong leader. 00:07:24.213 --> 00:07:27.583 So what I did after that for about six months, I went to a weekly dog 00:07:27.603 --> 00:07:32.653 class with him, a group pack walk, you know, pack classes, and I would see. 00:07:33.128 --> 00:07:37.088 Because I would be like, you know, we do a lot of going in and out of people and 00:07:37.088 --> 00:07:40.588 put them like, put them on place and then recall them, but it's in a group, right? 00:07:40.608 --> 00:07:43.778 And that was my greatest nightmare because he was lunging all over, you 00:07:43.778 --> 00:07:49.048 know, and what I would see is new people come in and, and the dog moms would 00:07:49.058 --> 00:07:52.598 be like, they're all tense and Yoni would be like, relax your arms, you 00:07:52.598 --> 00:07:54.388 know, and, and stop talking to them. 00:07:54.398 --> 00:07:55.038 Stop looking at them. 00:07:55.188 --> 00:07:59.028 Like you have to take a confident, like, I'm in charge. 00:07:59.693 --> 00:08:03.793 And you're fine and they have to listen to you and I, I know it'd be like, come 00:08:03.793 --> 00:08:06.273 here, you're gonna come here, you're gonna be like, oh, you're so good, and 00:08:06.443 --> 00:08:10.683 it's not that you can't talk to your dog, but you, oh, here's another thing I did. 00:08:10.723 --> 00:08:14.163 I pushed him into places where he previously didn't have 00:08:14.163 --> 00:08:17.773 confidence because before it's like, oh, you're afraid of that. 00:08:17.773 --> 00:08:19.003 Oh, don't do that. 00:08:19.013 --> 00:08:19.973 That'd be scary. 00:08:20.423 --> 00:08:22.293 That's the completely wrong thing to do. 00:08:22.673 --> 00:08:26.353 So like at the parks, they have those like sewer grates, you know, I don't 00:08:26.353 --> 00:08:30.323 know if you guys have a, so, so there's the grates, I would make him walk on 00:08:30.323 --> 00:08:34.393 the grates initially, he's thinking he's going to alligators, right? 00:08:34.683 --> 00:08:39.813 And I forced him just to go, like, so it was little activities 00:08:40.073 --> 00:08:42.273 that was like, I could do it! 00:08:42.313 --> 00:08:42.983 Oh my! 00:08:42.983 --> 00:08:43.223 Right? 00:08:43.263 --> 00:08:44.323 And just like anything, 00:08:47.843 --> 00:08:49.263 as And so, so he... 00:08:50.033 --> 00:08:53.963 Because he had built in anxiety from his early life and from Finley and my 00:08:53.963 --> 00:08:57.643 bad handling, and so I just kept pushing him into the new thing and the new thing 00:08:57.643 --> 00:08:58.733 and the new thing and the new thing. 00:08:59.533 --> 00:09:03.493 And so it was a lot of me having to change how I viewed him and 00:09:03.493 --> 00:09:06.953 having to take a stronger stance, like, nope, this is what we do now. 00:09:07.813 --> 00:09:08.143 Yeah, 00:09:08.603 --> 00:09:13.523 Anke: I think that that piece of, of, like the other, like, so I don't know, Mrs. 00:09:13.753 --> 00:09:17.013 Lindsey the other day was, read something that goes like, oh, like, it's always 00:09:17.013 --> 00:09:19.688 about the other end of the leash, like. 00:09:19.888 --> 00:09:21.268 us, you know, so 00:09:25.768 --> 00:09:25.998 100%. 00:09:26.028 --> 00:09:29.798 And I think that it's, it's a tricky one in a bit, in a sense, because it reminds 00:09:29.798 --> 00:09:34.068 me a little bit of Leo who got bitten, you know, and he was like, when he was 00:09:34.068 --> 00:09:35.648 little, like he was about a year old. 00:09:35.648 --> 00:09:38.958 And he was like, Oh, you know what, just like when he When the puppy 00:09:38.968 --> 00:09:43.458 critted was kind of running out and other dogs were no longer, you know, 00:09:43.458 --> 00:09:45.058 and he was like, Oh my God, I'm cute. 00:09:45.078 --> 00:09:45.718 And you know it. 00:09:46.098 --> 00:09:51.048 And so this other dog just basically went for him and it was an ugly situation 00:09:51.068 --> 00:09:53.898 because it was in the middle of the night and the owner wasn't there. 00:09:53.948 --> 00:09:54.688 There was no owner. 00:09:54.688 --> 00:09:58.058 It was this big dog off leash on his own, you know, and all 00:09:58.058 --> 00:09:59.658 I could do was like screech. 00:09:59.688 --> 00:10:01.008 And I'm like, that's not helping. 00:10:01.008 --> 00:10:03.268 I know, but it was like, it was a bit terrifying. 00:10:03.538 --> 00:10:03.968 Absolutely. 00:10:04.718 --> 00:10:05.458 I mean, and, and. 00:10:06.273 --> 00:10:11.983 It's really noticeable, like, okay, you know, like 19, 20 years later, and all 00:10:11.983 --> 00:10:16.703 the dogs later, it's like, I see that, I'm like a pit bull, like, I'm standing 00:10:16.703 --> 00:10:20.843 there, I've got you behind me, and I'm trolling you, you know, and it's like, 00:10:20.853 --> 00:10:24.923 it's really, and you can tell how the dog behind me relaxes, because then 00:10:24.923 --> 00:10:28.383 yeah, she'll be alright, yeah, she'll handle it, you know, Leo probably 00:10:28.383 --> 00:10:32.333 took his trauma, not so much from what the dog did, but from my reaction. 00:10:32.853 --> 00:10:37.413 You know, like, oh my God, like, she's worse than me, but I think it's 00:10:37.423 --> 00:10:42.093 kind of what you know at the time, you know, and I think when he would 00:10:42.093 --> 00:10:46.853 kind of launch at other dogs, it's like, yeah, you know, you can tell 00:10:46.853 --> 00:10:48.953 me relax your shoulders all you want. 00:10:48.993 --> 00:10:53.033 I know that he's going to, he's going to take off now, you know, he's going 00:10:53.033 --> 00:10:55.523 to wipe me off my feet if I relax. 00:10:55.523 --> 00:10:55.753 Right. 00:10:55.753 --> 00:10:56.383 I think it is. 00:10:57.293 --> 00:11:02.423 There needs to be that switch, you know, like somebody like his, this 00:11:02.423 --> 00:11:07.063 guy who kind of comes in and actually shows the dog, like, actually, 00:11:07.063 --> 00:11:08.503 yeah, this isn't the only way this 00:11:08.523 --> 00:11:09.293 Therese: can work, right? 00:11:09.303 --> 00:11:09.963 Exactly. 00:11:10.013 --> 00:11:10.733 Exactly. 00:11:10.873 --> 00:11:11.103 Yeah. 00:11:11.133 --> 00:11:11.433 Yeah. 00:11:12.103 --> 00:11:13.343 That's, that's, 00:11:13.343 --> 00:11:14.433 Anke: that's fabulous. 00:11:14.453 --> 00:11:17.433 And I think it's so, it's so beautiful because when you think about it, you 00:11:17.433 --> 00:11:22.543 know, I think people like you and me would go and say, well, whatever it takes. 00:11:23.583 --> 00:11:29.533 You know, I will do whatever it takes to make, you know, to, to make it work. 00:11:29.603 --> 00:11:33.113 But I think so many people, and I, you know, especially in Spain, you see all 00:11:33.123 --> 00:11:36.513 the time, you know, it's like, oh, I can't handle the dog, must get rid of the dog. 00:11:36.553 --> 00:11:39.843 You know, and I think that's where this becomes so important, 00:11:39.993 --> 00:11:41.093 you know, that the dog. 00:11:41.868 --> 00:11:46.028 can live with us in a way that, you know, where nobody feels unsafe and 00:11:46.038 --> 00:11:50.668 nobody feels like too much because then, you know, yeah, I love, I love, 00:11:50.678 --> 00:11:52.028 I love hearing stories like that. 00:11:52.568 --> 00:11:52.988 So, thank you. 00:11:53.008 --> 00:11:53.538 Thank you 00:11:53.558 --> 00:11:54.258 Therese: for sharing it. 00:11:54.508 --> 00:11:55.268 This is great. 00:11:55.868 --> 00:11:56.158 Yeah, 00:11:56.158 --> 00:11:59.678 Anke: we'll pop the link, you know, to your website, to 00:11:59.698 --> 00:12:01.368 Murphy's Instagram account. 00:12:01.428 --> 00:12:05.508 And, you know, and if you have the link to My trainer? 00:12:05.638 --> 00:12:09.778 To the trainer, if you want to give him a plug, then, then we can 00:12:09.778 --> 00:12:10.638 Therese: put that link there as well. 00:12:11.538 --> 00:12:13.828 Yeah, it's been, it's been life saving because like I said, I had 00:12:13.828 --> 00:12:16.158 had hired multiple trainers for two. 00:12:16.268 --> 00:12:18.118 I had, I said a history of reactive dogs. 00:12:19.258 --> 00:12:21.608 A, sometimes I, I always get rescues, and so sometimes you're 00:12:21.608 --> 00:12:22.898 getting, you don't know, right? 00:12:22.898 --> 00:12:23.748 They've been traumatized. 00:12:24.513 --> 00:12:27.813 And I hired trainers, but they were so reactive and these 00:12:27.813 --> 00:12:29.333 trainers didn't use the e caller. 00:12:29.753 --> 00:12:31.163 And so it just kept getting worse. 00:12:31.193 --> 00:12:32.503 And I would be so frustrated. 00:12:32.523 --> 00:12:36.173 Like one, one trainer, I literally had to spend 20 minutes in the driveway. 00:12:36.173 --> 00:12:37.173 She was a pit bull mix. 00:12:37.623 --> 00:12:40.213 She had such prey drive and she was so jacked up. 00:12:40.433 --> 00:12:43.093 20 minutes making circles in the driveway before I could even leave. 00:12:43.113 --> 00:12:43.963 And I'm like, screw this. 00:12:44.193 --> 00:12:45.193 It's too much work. 00:12:45.593 --> 00:12:47.983 Whereas when Yoni was like, just use an e caller. 00:12:48.243 --> 00:12:48.613 Boom. 00:12:49.283 --> 00:12:53.783 It's so, I know people get afraid of the tools, but don't be afraid of the tools 00:12:53.823 --> 00:12:56.263 because I, it's not for not trying, right. 00:12:56.263 --> 00:13:00.323 I went out of my way, but I didn't have the proper tools and I didn't have, 00:13:00.933 --> 00:13:03.463 you know, to me, the board and the train, and it is a privileged thing. 00:13:03.463 --> 00:13:06.243 It's very expensive oftentimes to get a board and train thing happening, 00:13:06.723 --> 00:13:10.973 but gosh, if you can do that, it is, it is just, you set it up right 00:13:10.983 --> 00:13:12.433 from the beginning with success. 00:13:12.643 --> 00:13:14.693 So big plug for those trainers. 00:13:15.928 --> 00:13:16.388 Anke: Awesome. 00:13:16.438 --> 00:13:17.538 Well, thank you so much. 00:13:17.978 --> 00:13:18.138 Thank you. 00:13:18.838 --> 00:13:18.998 I 00:13:18.998 --> 00:13:19.668 Therese: shall talk to you soon. 00:13:20.238 --> 00:13:20.648 Okay. 00:13:20.928 --> 00:13:21.078 Lots of love. 00:13:22.674 --> 00:13:23.904 Thanks so much for listening. 00:13:24.424 --> 00:13:28.724 If you enjoyed the episode, don't forget to subscribe, and leave a review so 00:13:28.824 --> 00:13:30.604 other dog lovers can find the show. 00:13:31.394 --> 00:13:34.884 If you haven't already, head over to soul touched by dogs. 00:13:35.314 --> 00:13:40.884 com and sign up for weekly doggy cuteness tips, recommendations, and personal 00:13:40.984 --> 00:13:43.354 stories to warm your dog loving heart. 00:13:43.354 --> 00:13:47.084 And if you know a pawsome human you think I should interview, 00:13:47.504 --> 00:13:48.644 I'd love an introduction. 00:13:49.124 --> 00:13:50.954 Email me at Anke. 00:13:51.224 --> 00:13:55.459 That's A N k E at Soul touched by dogs.com.