WEBVTT NOTE This file was generated by Descript 00:00:00.050 --> 00:00:02.840 James: Hello, and welcome to another episode of behind the madness. 00:00:02.930 --> 00:00:06.980 I'm your host, James Roberts, founder, and owner of method. 00:00:07.010 --> 00:00:12.530 We are a growth agency who are hell bent on unlocking company's potential through 00:00:12.530 --> 00:00:14.870 creative and marketing techniques. 00:00:15.710 --> 00:00:20.330 Today on the pod, we are talking about health and wellbeing for your business. 00:00:20.802 --> 00:00:23.292 I am joined by Paul and Jamie. 00:00:23.292 --> 00:00:25.392 Once again, it's great to have them on the pod. 00:00:25.452 --> 00:00:29.542 It helps you guys get something more interesting than just my 00:00:29.542 --> 00:00:32.802 dulcet tones for 13 or 15 minutes. 00:00:33.402 --> 00:00:36.102 So let's jump straight in today. 00:00:36.102 --> 00:00:39.148 I think it's a lovely topic topic and one which is very close to my heart. 00:00:39.148 --> 00:00:39.898 So let's get going 00:00:45.658 --> 00:00:46.168 Hi, both. 00:00:46.498 --> 00:00:50.158 I hope you're both well feeling happy, feeling healthy 00:00:50.638 --> 00:00:52.178 and ready for today's topic. 00:00:52.286 --> 00:00:53.196 Jamie: Good to be here James. 00:00:53.527 --> 00:00:54.227 Paul: likewise. 00:00:54.447 --> 00:01:00.682 James: So Jamie, we are talking about health and wellbeing in the 00:01:00.732 --> 00:01:02.018 office, and within a business. 00:01:02.048 --> 00:01:04.508 So do you want to get us started? 00:01:04.508 --> 00:01:06.008 What are we going to be covering today? 00:01:06.008 --> 00:01:08.848 What are we going to be going over and yeah, fill us in a bit. 00:01:09.065 --> 00:01:13.775 Jamie: It's a really important topic today because over the last number of years, as 00:01:13.775 --> 00:01:18.005 more and more businesses have popped up, those almost been a badge of honor for 00:01:18.005 --> 00:01:23.412 people who are working 24 7 and saying, oh, I only slept three hours last night 00:01:23.412 --> 00:01:24.972 because I was working on my business. 00:01:25.072 --> 00:01:30.202 That badge of honor is slowly over time deteriorated their mental capacities, 00:01:30.232 --> 00:01:33.832 both in terms of mental health, from a personal point of view, but also 00:01:33.832 --> 00:01:35.422 their output for their business. 00:01:35.708 --> 00:01:40.072 So it's those kinds of things that we're looking today, we want to give back to 00:01:40.102 --> 00:01:46.462 business owners really who are put under enormous pressure by themselves and by 00:01:46.462 --> 00:01:52.537 society by maybe it's their social status or what they're doing in a personal life, 00:01:52.627 --> 00:01:56.737 but mainly by themselves demanding so much of themselves that they're actually 00:01:56.827 --> 00:01:58.687 hindering their business efforts. 00:01:58.927 --> 00:02:03.457 So it's stuff like walking away from your desk, eating lunch in separate places. 00:02:03.487 --> 00:02:08.407 All these little tips can really help someone excel, not hinder, excel 00:02:08.407 --> 00:02:09.937 their business and grow it forward. 00:02:10.527 --> 00:02:11.547 James: Yeah, I think that's a really good point. 00:02:11.547 --> 00:02:17.757 I think that certainly today's society still does believe that you have got 00:02:17.757 --> 00:02:20.517 to work and work hard until you die. 00:02:20.997 --> 00:02:24.417 think there's this whole middle ground that we're kind of missing out on and 00:02:24.553 --> 00:02:26.813 if we go back to our last episode, when we were talking about another one 00:02:26.813 --> 00:02:30.743 of my favorite topics on optimization and workflows and things like that, 00:02:31.433 --> 00:02:37.553 we touched on optimizing your self and your time and time management. 00:02:37.733 --> 00:02:39.661 And if you are. 00:02:40.376 --> 00:02:47.336 Struggling either with some, uh, sleep deprivation or you're having mental 00:02:47.336 --> 00:02:51.176 health issues or anything along these lines, trying to push through that, 00:02:51.626 --> 00:02:56.756 push through those barriers is only going to make it harder in the long run. 00:02:56.756 --> 00:03:00.006 You're not going to be as effective as you could be, you are going 00:03:00.006 --> 00:03:02.936 to struggle with everyday tasks. 00:03:04.516 --> 00:03:10.876 In some instances, mistakes within the business could be hugely costly. 00:03:11.296 --> 00:03:17.313 So I think, yeah, taking a step back and looking after yourself is 00:03:17.373 --> 00:03:20.509 in turn looking after the business helping the business thrive. 00:03:21.039 --> 00:03:26.215 Jamie: Massively, this is nothing new, in terms of the wellbeing of a business 00:03:26.215 --> 00:03:31.365 owner or founder or founding team, or down to the team themselves, because 00:03:31.995 --> 00:03:36.285 you look at some of the big figureheads, the Richard Bransons, the Jeff Bezos, 00:03:36.554 --> 00:03:40.184 these guys who I think we can all agree have done pretty well for themselves. 00:03:40.446 --> 00:03:43.176 Jeff Bezos makes sure he gets eight hours a night. 00:03:43.806 --> 00:03:47.886 Like he screams at the other end of the scale of not oh I 00:03:47.886 --> 00:03:49.086 only slept two hours last night. 00:03:49.086 --> 00:03:51.576 He says, no, no, that's a non-negotiable for me. 00:03:52.046 --> 00:03:56.216 Richard Branson, he evangelises how teams should be treated. 00:03:56.526 --> 00:03:59.852 These are the kinds of well-being tricks that they will fuel 00:03:59.852 --> 00:04:01.112 the growth, not hindering. 00:04:01.387 --> 00:04:02.287 James: Yeah, absolutely. 00:04:02.642 --> 00:04:05.402 Let's think about our days then? 00:04:05.522 --> 00:04:08.782 Obviously, you know, we have our best scenarios, which are 00:04:08.782 --> 00:04:09.832 great when we can keep to them. 00:04:09.832 --> 00:04:14.632 Obviously, sometimes we can't sometimes needs must, sometimes you're going to 00:04:14.632 --> 00:04:19.532 have a day, which is just jam packed full of meetings and it is then difficult 00:04:19.548 --> 00:04:23.588 to focus more on yourself, but that's where, you know, you know, you're aware 00:04:23.588 --> 00:04:26.895 of what's happening and then maybe the next day, you can try and combat that. 00:04:27.345 --> 00:04:31.035 But I will always try and have my lunch away from the office. 00:04:31.085 --> 00:04:32.855 I'll generally, you know, we're lucky here. 00:04:32.855 --> 00:04:34.535 Like most people are now that they work from home. 00:04:34.535 --> 00:04:37.831 So I will come out the office and I will have my lunch in my kitchen and try and 00:04:37.831 --> 00:04:42.421 turn off and just have that downtime where I can refocus and then almost go 00:04:42.421 --> 00:04:44.478 again but I can collect my thoughts. 00:04:44.788 --> 00:04:47.758 The adrenaline is usually pumping through our day because we spoke about 00:04:47.758 --> 00:04:50.998 the monkey mind, where we are jumping from one thing to another, swinging 00:04:50.998 --> 00:04:56.328 from one branch to the next and able to stop and just take a check of how 00:04:56.328 --> 00:05:01.436 I feel and then go again is a must, And we always do that within our lunch 00:05:01.436 --> 00:05:06.386 break but you know, certain times we're going to have to, you know, El Desco our 00:05:06.386 --> 00:05:08.816 lunch because got to get something done. 00:05:08.816 --> 00:05:12.896 And I think that's the balance, I think it's understanding yourself and knowing 00:05:13.196 --> 00:05:16.706 when you, sometimes you just got to push through and other times when you need to 00:05:16.706 --> 00:05:19.536 step back or definitely should step back. 00:05:19.916 --> 00:05:24.296 So in terms of those kinds of ideas, what do you guys, you know, we'll 00:05:24.326 --> 00:05:30.206 tap up for first, what tips or things do you do to break your day up to 00:05:30.306 --> 00:05:31.656 basically keep you on top of your game. 00:05:31.800 --> 00:05:34.770 Paul: I agree with you about the lunch, obviously, I work remotely 00:05:34.770 --> 00:05:36.000 from home as well in my office. 00:05:36.540 --> 00:05:40.230 I'll go downstairs and cook myself something or make a sandwich or 00:05:40.230 --> 00:05:43.830 something I'll not to eat at my desk, I'll sit down in the dining 00:05:43.830 --> 00:05:45.660 room, away from the computer. 00:05:45.900 --> 00:05:49.917 Sometimes we need to eat at our desks because we've got stuff or stuff 00:05:49.917 --> 00:05:54.156 to watch, whether it's educational or just catching up on stuff. 00:05:54.259 --> 00:05:57.889 But I think it's really important to be mindful of looking out for yourself 00:05:57.889 --> 00:06:03.099 day to day, because, you'll just make it worse and you will exhaust yourself 00:06:03.159 --> 00:06:04.789 and you won't be good to anyone then. 00:06:05.369 --> 00:06:09.093 Before I worked for method, I worked for a newspaper as a photographer and 00:06:09.093 --> 00:06:12.026 I was out driving a hundred miles a day in the countryside of the Cotswolds, 00:06:12.046 --> 00:06:13.723 the Malverns, it was a great job. 00:06:13.963 --> 00:06:17.773 I was in the fresh air all the time was meeting tens of people every day. 00:06:18.013 --> 00:06:21.073 I mean, you chat everyone And then I'll start working from home, it's 00:06:21.073 --> 00:06:23.493 completely different, you didn't see anyone, so I find it really 00:06:23.493 --> 00:06:25.143 important to go out and do other stuff. 00:06:25.793 --> 00:06:29.343 Perhaps in the evenings, I play tennis socially two or three times a week 00:06:29.406 --> 00:06:32.899 and that sort of making sure I get the fresh air, get a of exercise, meet 00:06:32.959 --> 00:06:37.113 other people because I could go a week with just talking to my partner and son 00:06:37.166 --> 00:06:38.873 quite easily and not see anyone else. 00:06:39.186 --> 00:06:41.856 Jamie: That is very interesting, and I'm going to come in with 00:06:41.856 --> 00:06:44.759 the classic bombshell question for the two of you, becoming a 00:06:44.759 --> 00:06:47.169 reoccurring, behind the madness topic. 00:06:47.679 --> 00:06:51.489 How do you think it's changed since COVID because that element, you said Paul, 00:06:52.029 --> 00:06:56.889 you've been remote working for a long time, now, then last two years, I haven't 00:06:56.889 --> 00:06:58.959 been too different from a working stance. 00:06:59.644 --> 00:07:01.084 For a lot of people that has. 00:07:01.594 --> 00:07:07.204 how think it's changed how can people adapt to that change better? 00:07:07.481 --> 00:07:10.421 Paul: I think people have a understanding, more that working 00:07:10.421 --> 00:07:12.131 from isn't just dossing around. 00:07:12.441 --> 00:07:13.521 You have to get stuff done. 00:07:13.581 --> 00:07:15.911 And before hand, when you say you worked from home. 00:07:16.041 --> 00:07:18.711 Oh, that must be very convenient, must be really nice, just sort of rolling 00:07:18.711 --> 00:07:22.015 into the office five minutes after you wake up, but then now they understand 00:07:22.015 --> 00:07:25.426 that actually you're using your home as an office and it's not ideal. 00:07:25.569 --> 00:07:29.159 You've got a work family barrier there that you've got a separate. 00:07:29.254 --> 00:07:33.191 One thing you should do really is separate your work life from your family life. 00:07:33.191 --> 00:07:36.926 So when at five 30, when you leave the office, go and do something, whether 00:07:36.926 --> 00:07:40.905 it's a walk around the block or have your tea, just do something that 00:07:40.905 --> 00:07:42.951 tells your body that works finished. 00:07:43.046 --> 00:07:44.666 Jamie: Yeah, I a hundred percent agree. 00:07:44.666 --> 00:07:46.463 and I think building on Paul's point. 00:07:46.514 --> 00:07:51.271 I look for outlets, in terms of what I can do, that changes things like I'm a 00:07:51.271 --> 00:07:54.211 very avid learner and I love learning. 00:07:54.282 --> 00:07:57.252 My role as social media manager, I learned a lot daily because 00:07:57.252 --> 00:07:58.362 it changes all the time. 00:07:58.435 --> 00:08:02.522 But even if I'm still what I would call maybe working, if I'm off 00:08:02.522 --> 00:08:06.822 learning about, say content creation or photography, something that I can 00:08:06.842 --> 00:08:11.796 link back to my job, still gives me that sense of differentiating and it 00:08:11.796 --> 00:08:13.896 changes the mental space within my head. 00:08:13.896 --> 00:08:18.328 So I never used to be a big reader, but now I've really, really got into reading. 00:08:18.898 --> 00:08:21.148 But then another outlet for me is the other end of the 00:08:21.148 --> 00:08:22.768 scale of going to the gym. 00:08:22.908 --> 00:08:27.775 So I think finding those outlets that you can really unplug and go, okay. 00:08:27.775 --> 00:08:33.282 I may still be working in my mind, but actually I'm getting a of different 00:08:33.305 --> 00:08:38.255 enjoyment from it the end of the day, you can love what you do, but work is work. 00:08:38.443 --> 00:08:43.072 Paul: There's a temptation that upstairs or the garden office is there to just pop 00:08:43.072 --> 00:08:46.432 back into five minutes and then you're there till 11 o'clock at night it's still 00:08:46.432 --> 00:08:49.042 working and you haven't seen your family. 00:08:49.471 --> 00:08:55.091 Jamie: We are the most accessible generations in history, so it's about 00:08:55.111 --> 00:09:00.211 finding, and I kind of want to flick this conversation a little bit because 00:09:00.211 --> 00:09:04.411 we are highlighting a few of the, the real big issues, but it's then, okay. 00:09:04.411 --> 00:09:05.551 So what do we do about it? 00:09:05.551 --> 00:09:08.997 So we've got stuff like eating away from your desk, changing that setting, 00:09:09.267 --> 00:09:13.287 what outlets they could be hobbies, they could be stuff like going to the gym, 00:09:13.287 --> 00:09:17.750 or even if you are into your learning, your reading, whatever it may be, just 00:09:17.750 --> 00:09:20.980 because it's work doesn't mean you can't use your laptop or your phone still. 00:09:21.060 --> 00:09:23.920 So what other things can we think that would help people 00:09:23.980 --> 00:09:25.360 with their mindset as well? 00:09:25.450 --> 00:09:30.865 Because a lot of clarity and a lot of awareness has been put on the importance 00:09:30.865 --> 00:09:34.165 of checking with people mentally, important than ever in the last two 00:09:34.165 --> 00:09:35.815 years where people have been restricted. 00:09:36.088 --> 00:09:40.118 We do something where we have about once a month, we have a content day, 00:09:40.768 --> 00:09:46.042 where we head down to James' house, and we record a load of our reels. 00:09:46.102 --> 00:09:49.492 We record a load of stories, I know you guys have probably seen Tips 00:09:49.492 --> 00:09:54.292 with Tea, to our Instagram and check those out because they are hilarious 00:09:54.322 --> 00:09:55.822 and obviously packed full of value. 00:09:56.119 --> 00:10:01.623 But alongside that, we'd be lying if we said to you that 16 hours of work. 00:10:01.623 --> 00:10:06.693 It's not, it's probably a couple of hours of recording reels and then double that 00:10:06.723 --> 00:10:11.183 messing around, playing football in the park, goofing each other's outtakes. 00:10:11.613 --> 00:10:17.433 And it's that social touch that then reinvigorates us personally 00:10:17.813 --> 00:10:19.233 to better ourselves in role. 00:10:19.478 --> 00:10:20.798 James: We're all social creatures. 00:10:21.018 --> 00:10:21.608 That's the thing. 00:10:21.648 --> 00:10:24.588 That's where, you know, the last two years. 00:10:24.588 --> 00:10:28.159 have been tough for a lot of people because of that social interaction. 00:10:28.409 --> 00:10:33.689 I mean, we can count ourselves very, very lucky in terms of work that we already 00:10:33.719 --> 00:10:38.749 had certain protocols and certain systems in place, which we were already used to 00:10:38.749 --> 00:10:44.119 working from working remotely, but still had the option to come into the office. 00:10:44.119 --> 00:10:47.389 We still had the option to kind of do all of that social 00:10:47.389 --> 00:10:48.499 interaction when we needed it. 00:10:48.499 --> 00:10:49.589 And we recognized when we need it. 00:10:50.084 --> 00:10:52.154 Sometimes people just needed to come into the office for a day. 00:10:52.274 --> 00:10:55.064 Now it's obviously harder than ever during those two years 00:10:55.064 --> 00:10:56.084 to do that, we couldn't do it. 00:10:56.084 --> 00:11:00.584 So people have found benefits in working from home. 00:11:00.584 --> 00:11:07.438 And I think that's down to the employers as well at the same stage that don't think 00:11:07.554 --> 00:11:10.670 that company has to run the nine to five. 00:11:11.415 --> 00:11:12.045 Shifts. 00:11:12.765 --> 00:11:15.325 This is something again, which is very much something which we've put 00:11:15.325 --> 00:11:19.145 on from society where it doesn't actually have to be that time, it's 00:11:19.158 --> 00:11:21.938 a decent time because it's kind of the, the middle part of the day. 00:11:21.938 --> 00:11:23.948 We have a, an early part to get the kids to school. 00:11:24.158 --> 00:11:25.538 It kind of runs around that. 00:11:26.048 --> 00:11:28.238 we also have a portion at the end where the kids are finishing, where 00:11:28.238 --> 00:11:30.218 we can enjoy time as a family. 00:11:30.218 --> 00:11:30.488 Again. 00:11:30.610 --> 00:11:35.380 But, you know, if you want to go and get the kids from school at three o'clock, 00:11:35.470 --> 00:11:40.270 if you've need that break to go for a walk at lunch, or if you've just been 00:11:40.270 --> 00:11:46.743 staring at a screen, you shouldn't feel as a member of the team to be staring 00:11:46.743 --> 00:11:50.913 at a screen when you are not being productive, again, it's, counter-intuitive 00:11:51.273 --> 00:11:52.893 go for a walk, go take the dog out. 00:11:52.923 --> 00:11:54.633 Especially if you know, we're in a creative environment. 00:11:54.633 --> 00:11:56.253 So we know this more than most. 00:11:56.323 --> 00:12:01.860 But you have to find that balance and find, as you said, you know, going 00:12:01.860 --> 00:12:05.310 to the gym, finding these outlets where you can do something where 00:12:05.310 --> 00:12:07.170 you're still keeping yourself engaged. 00:12:07.483 --> 00:12:11.286 A lot of business owners flip that you would think that you need to turn off 00:12:11.346 --> 00:12:14.826 and you would think that you'd need to stop your brain from kind of working 00:12:14.826 --> 00:12:16.056 and do something like watching telly. 00:12:16.476 --> 00:12:20.136 But in fact, the opposite has been found to be more beneficial, where you are 00:12:20.136 --> 00:12:24.398 still engaging the brain in something which is still difficult to problem 00:12:24.398 --> 00:12:28.961 solving, but in a different avenue, chess, rock climbing, some of the big 00:12:28.961 --> 00:12:33.791 hobbies a lot of company owners, CEOs take up because their brain is still being 00:12:33.791 --> 00:12:38.941 worked and they are still engaging and still finding that use out of the brain. 00:12:38.941 --> 00:12:41.371 But they're almost relaxing at the same point. 00:12:41.941 --> 00:12:47.481 So I think having that balance, Maybe changing these hours and you 00:12:47.481 --> 00:12:51.931 know, here, we're very flexible, as long as we have deadlines on jobs. 00:12:52.361 --> 00:12:55.921 And to be honest I don't care if they're done at nine o'clock at 00:12:55.921 --> 00:12:59.461 night, or if they're done at six o'clock in the morning, as long 00:12:59.461 --> 00:13:04.201 as if the time set that it needs to be done by X they're done by X. 00:13:05.071 --> 00:13:10.256 I think the point and this then aids this whole better culture within an 00:13:10.256 --> 00:13:16.916 organization where people can thrive but also not have this fear of having to be 00:13:16.916 --> 00:13:19.616 chained to your desk between nine to five, I've spoken to friends before and they've 00:13:19.616 --> 00:13:22.976 gone I'm supposed to be working, but I've just gone and hung out the washing. 00:13:23.966 --> 00:13:29.143 this guilt, I was like, go and hang out the washing, go and that for five minutes. 00:13:29.570 --> 00:13:33.830 But what you'll tend to find within an organization is the more you let go of 00:13:33.830 --> 00:13:36.710 these rains, the more you'll get back. 00:13:37.050 --> 00:13:42.310 Staff are difficult to train as there's time that you need to train staff. 00:13:42.340 --> 00:13:43.180 They're costly. 00:13:43.180 --> 00:13:46.570 They're usually the biggest part of the outgoings of a company. 00:13:46.910 --> 00:13:48.490 So why would want to burn them out?. 00:13:48.800 --> 00:13:53.300 Why would you want to, try and drill them to the ground and 00:13:53.408 --> 00:13:55.300 not let them enjoy their job? 00:13:55.380 --> 00:13:57.270 It's madness Really. 00:13:57.417 --> 00:14:01.448 Paul: So James, I know you're a big advocate for a bit of health, 00:14:01.518 --> 00:14:06.198 a bit of looking after your body and mind, do you burn yourself out? 00:14:06.297 --> 00:14:09.634 You get up in the morning, I think a ridiculous early time. 00:14:10.114 --> 00:14:11.014 Uh, it's just me. 00:14:11.404 --> 00:14:15.164 But you dive straight into your emails as soon as you get up, because it's a really 00:14:15.164 --> 00:14:17.907 productive time for you, but then you set aside a certain amount of time for 00:14:17.907 --> 00:14:21.957 that, and then you go and do something else and then you do start work properly. 00:14:22.027 --> 00:14:24.867 What else do you do that sort of helps your mind and body. 00:14:24.949 --> 00:14:29.019 Jamie: Before he answers that, should we make sure that he gets the plugin 00:14:29.019 --> 00:14:33.272 for the thing on his wrist that we know he's dying to talk about 00:14:33.272 --> 00:14:38.347 Paul: Of the several names I'm expecting pop up here, let's, uh, let's let him 00:14:38.347 --> 00:14:40.106 loose with his affiliate marketing. 00:14:40.166 --> 00:14:43.976 James: So I wasn't actually going to, obviously I love whoop. 00:14:44.066 --> 00:14:47.276 It gives me the feedback that I need. 00:14:47.749 --> 00:14:54.839 It is a brilliant tool to understand how my body is feeling, but it also 00:14:54.899 --> 00:15:00.569 allows me to recognize when I need to step back, which is why I love it, but 00:15:00.569 --> 00:15:04.592 I'm not, completely like if I need to do something, if I need to go for a run, if 00:15:04.592 --> 00:15:07.442 I need to do this, I'm not going to go one, hang on a minute, I'm in the red, 00:15:07.442 --> 00:15:10.382 I'm in the orange I'm not going to do it so I think there's that flip side to it. 00:15:10.412 --> 00:15:12.883 But yes, I love my Whoop and yes, it does help me 00:15:12.983 --> 00:15:15.717 Paul: So the people that don't know Whoop is? 00:15:16.110 --> 00:15:19.084 James: Whoop is a device that you wear on your wrist that it's not 00:15:19.084 --> 00:15:21.424 like a watch or anything like that doesn't give you any feedback. 00:15:21.724 --> 00:15:24.904 It is constantly tracking you throughout your day. 00:15:25.354 --> 00:15:30.914 And will break down your day into, strain and recovery, essentially. 00:15:30.914 --> 00:15:35.482 So it will know how well you've slept, but it will also know how much strain 00:15:35.482 --> 00:15:36.952 you've put on your body throughout a day. 00:15:37.192 --> 00:15:40.552 Normally we're very good at tracking exercises or tracking activities. 00:15:41.182 --> 00:15:44.302 What Whoop does is track your whole day. 00:15:44.302 --> 00:15:47.152 So it will know when you've gone for a run, but it will also know when you've 00:15:47.152 --> 00:15:48.772 had an intensive meeting at work. 00:15:48.885 --> 00:15:54.405 And at the end of the day, you will have a score out of 21, of how much strain 00:15:54.405 --> 00:15:56.415 you have put on your body for that day. 00:15:56.815 --> 00:16:00.835 It will then analyze you throughout the night and your sleep and tell you the 00:16:00.835 --> 00:16:02.935 next day, how well you are recovered. 00:16:02.935 --> 00:16:07.915 So if you've had a high intensity day, you obviously need more rest to be better 00:16:07.915 --> 00:16:09.475 recovered to go again the next day. 00:16:09.475 --> 00:16:14.035 So it's kind of helping you just be a, I mean, it is, it 00:16:14.035 --> 00:16:15.365 obviously is designed for athletes. 00:16:15.365 --> 00:16:19.742 It came from that kind of community, but it is essentially going to make 00:16:19.742 --> 00:16:23.110 people better versions of themselves because it's going to help them 00:16:23.110 --> 00:16:24.370 understand how they're feeling. 00:16:24.406 --> 00:16:25.276 Jamie: That Is the key. 00:16:25.636 --> 00:16:29.896 Is that personalization and understanding what you need some people 00:16:29.926 --> 00:16:31.336 can get by on seven hours, sleep. 00:16:31.543 --> 00:16:36.809 And some people need nine and it is personalizing what, you know, you need, 00:16:36.809 --> 00:16:38.459 some people eat at different times. 00:16:38.459 --> 00:16:43.599 Some people will prefer getting up really early or getting up later 00:16:43.619 --> 00:16:44.729 and going to bed really late. 00:16:44.819 --> 00:16:47.069 It is about understanding yourself. 00:16:47.118 --> 00:16:52.259 So with that in mind, personalize what you're doing, okay. 00:16:52.259 --> 00:16:56.141 Make sure you understand yourself and then use the other things we've spoken 00:16:56.141 --> 00:17:00.421 about the outlets, the distractions that are positive to your life, but 00:17:00.421 --> 00:17:04.171 you are going to still become the person you kind of want to become and 00:17:04.171 --> 00:17:05.611 the business owner you want to become. 00:17:06.361 --> 00:17:09.481 Before we go, I want to flip the script and talk about. 00:17:10.426 --> 00:17:14.836 The other side of the thing, other side of this conversation, which is making 00:17:14.836 --> 00:17:16.496 sure you're still being ambitious. 00:17:16.866 --> 00:17:19.606 There is a certain mindset you need when you're being a business owner. 00:17:19.606 --> 00:17:25.006 And it's great to talk about the ways to stay healthy and stay positive because 00:17:25.006 --> 00:17:26.716 that's what fuels this side of things. 00:17:26.954 --> 00:17:30.284 As a business owner, you have to juggle so many plates. 00:17:30.514 --> 00:17:32.434 There is so many different things going on. 00:17:32.434 --> 00:17:36.484 So head over and look at some of our other podcasts in terms 00:17:36.484 --> 00:17:39.814 of stuff like optimization and how you can free up your time. 00:17:40.230 --> 00:17:44.141 Boys I want to have about the mindset of a business owner and what 00:17:44.141 --> 00:17:47.371 you think is really key ingredient to that side of the ambition. 00:17:47.529 --> 00:17:48.144 James: I think you're right. 00:17:48.594 --> 00:17:50.754 We've got to have a drive because we've got to continue 00:17:50.754 --> 00:17:53.244 pushing your company forward. 00:17:53.384 --> 00:17:57.494 I think as well as a kind of a side note, I think there's so many topics 00:17:57.494 --> 00:17:59.864 that I would like to explore that I think we open this up and have a 00:17:59.864 --> 00:18:03.164 few other podcasts on more specific topics kind of going forward. 00:18:03.478 --> 00:18:06.161 So we'll kind of get them down. 00:18:06.211 --> 00:18:08.911 Obviously if you are interested in this, make sure you're following our 00:18:08.911 --> 00:18:12.031 podcast and then the new ones will pop up as they kind of come through. 00:18:12.031 --> 00:18:14.311 But I think there's so much that we can obviously cover and we've 00:18:14.341 --> 00:18:17.431 obviously gone over today more than we normally do, because it's 00:18:17.431 --> 00:18:20.251 such a valid topic, but I think. 00:18:20.629 --> 00:18:20.989 Yes. 00:18:20.989 --> 00:18:21.799 It's about balance. 00:18:21.799 --> 00:18:21.979 Yes. 00:18:21.979 --> 00:18:23.869 It's about drive looking after yourself. 00:18:23.899 --> 00:18:29.126 They will give you that mindset, that fresher mind to be able to push, you know, 00:18:29.126 --> 00:18:31.766 if you are tired, if you are struggling with all this, you're not gonna, you're 00:18:31.766 --> 00:18:33.326 just gonna get up and think work is work. 00:18:33.356 --> 00:18:36.596 Even if you're a business owner, just got to do this to pay the bills, 00:18:36.743 --> 00:18:41.588 whereas the better recovered you are the more likely you are to push 00:18:41.588 --> 00:18:45.969 some time into pushing and growing that business rather than pressures. 00:18:45.969 --> 00:18:50.363 I think business owners, anyway, entrepreneurs, people like that already 00:18:50.363 --> 00:18:53.877 have a certain mindset, and a passion. 00:18:53.877 --> 00:18:57.087 And I think, you know, I love what we do. 00:18:57.357 --> 00:19:03.115 I love helping companies grow and that's kind of, our ethos really is to help. 00:19:03.146 --> 00:19:05.956 I'm passionate about trying to help companies. 00:19:05.956 --> 00:19:08.836 So every time I get up, I want to help people grow. 00:19:08.836 --> 00:19:10.336 I want to talk to new people. 00:19:10.336 --> 00:19:13.546 I want to learn about their ideas and what makes them tick. 00:19:13.576 --> 00:19:17.806 I find fascinating and how we can help them reach where they 00:19:17.806 --> 00:19:20.091 want to grow is really enjoyable. 00:19:20.331 --> 00:19:23.601 We are very lucky in what we do, that we hit loads of different sectors. 00:19:23.601 --> 00:19:27.331 We hit different markets and meet lots and lots of different people and, 00:19:27.381 --> 00:19:33.231 That's in itself is enough drive for me because of what we want to achieve. 00:19:33.291 --> 00:19:36.201 And I think if you look at any successful companies, their 00:19:36.201 --> 00:19:38.464 mission is the driving force. 00:19:38.704 --> 00:19:41.469 It's not the, I only do this to make money. 00:19:41.469 --> 00:19:44.495 I think you've generally then the love and the drive would 00:19:44.495 --> 00:19:46.085 disappear out of an organization. 00:19:46.085 --> 00:19:50.258 And that's generally then where business owners will drop it and try and get that 00:19:50.258 --> 00:19:52.508 new buzz because they've lost interest. 00:19:52.592 --> 00:19:57.304 But again, you know, it comes back to being recovered and focused on that 00:19:57.304 --> 00:20:01.287 end goal and really wanting to achieve that and whatever it might be, it 00:20:01.287 --> 00:20:06.130 doesn't have to be these worldbeater goals, you can start off, just start 00:20:06.340 --> 00:20:10.450 that journey of trying to get up the hill by taking your first step. 00:20:10.480 --> 00:20:14.227 And that's what I think again, like you said, Jamie is a lot of the topics that 00:20:14.227 --> 00:20:17.707 we push out is helping people move along that journey and reach their bigger goals 00:20:17.947 --> 00:20:20.677 by breaking that up, you know, how do you eat an elephant, whereas one piece 00:20:20.677 --> 00:20:26.350 at a time and focusing that on that big goal is also going to really, really 00:20:26.350 --> 00:20:31.020 help you drive your company forward, but focus again down on your message. 00:20:31.050 --> 00:20:31.830 Why are you doing it? 00:20:32.280 --> 00:20:35.523 Why are you wanting to be who you are? 00:20:35.623 --> 00:20:40.523 And I think that should be enough drive for anybody to push something forward. 00:20:40.800 --> 00:20:43.860 Again, thanks, boys for being on the podcast with me. 00:20:43.910 --> 00:20:48.920 It's always a joy to have you to helping me along and get our content out. 00:20:49.154 --> 00:20:53.954 So thanks for listening to behind the madness with me, James Paul and Jamie. 00:20:54.314 --> 00:20:56.654 I hope you obviously enjoyed this episode all about health 00:20:56.654 --> 00:20:57.834 and wellbeing within business. 00:20:58.444 --> 00:21:01.504 Make sure, as I mentioned before that you subscribe to get all of our new 00:21:01.504 --> 00:21:07.414 episodes pop up on your device and as always head over to hello method.co.uk, 00:21:07.804 --> 00:21:12.294 sign up to receive some of our blog where we are giving some amazing content 00:21:12.324 --> 00:21:16.074 out for free, why wouldn't you as well as checking out all of the links 00:21:16.074 --> 00:21:17.844 and the resources in the show notes. 00:21:17.844 --> 00:21:20.604 So that's it for this episode folks, and I'll see you 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