WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:02.200 Hey, everybody, we're the Bible guys, and if you're just 2 00:00:02.240 --> 00:00:05.320 tuning in recently, just know that we are showing a 3 00:00:05.320 --> 00:00:07.120 little bit of reruns for a few months, and then 4 00:00:07.120 --> 00:00:09.839 we'll be back bigger and better than ever on August 5 00:00:09.919 --> 00:00:13.519 thirty first, because behind the scenes we're taking a hiatus 6 00:00:13.519 --> 00:00:14.720 to do some very important things. 7 00:00:14.759 --> 00:00:18.399 Yeah, we're building building out a new studio and we've 8 00:00:18.399 --> 00:00:21.399 got some new structure. Super excited about it. So August 9 00:00:21.440 --> 00:00:24.399 thirty first, brand new content. But in the meantime, enjoy 10 00:00:24.440 --> 00:00:25.519 some of our greatest hits. 11 00:00:26.120 --> 00:00:28.480 Hey, guys, welcome to the Bible Guys. Today we're actually 12 00:00:28.559 --> 00:00:33.679 talking about God's selection of Israel. Really excited about today's passage. 13 00:00:33.759 --> 00:00:36.679 Yeah, there's a lot of complexities and controversies in this past, 14 00:00:36.719 --> 00:00:38.960 and that's so we'll see how we can step in 15 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:41.280 all of that. He's Kyle and I'm Jeff, and we're 16 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:41.920 the Bible guys. 17 00:00:53.479 --> 00:00:55.520 Yeah, So before we get into some of the complex 18 00:00:55.520 --> 00:00:58.719 stuff here in Romans chapter nine, we're gonna play a 19 00:00:58.759 --> 00:00:59.719 little game this or that. 20 00:01:00.280 --> 00:01:02.039 Know, in the history fun. 21 00:01:01.880 --> 00:01:04.480 You and Chris seem to be on opposite ends when 22 00:01:04.519 --> 00:01:05.959 it comes to certain preferences and things. 23 00:01:06.000 --> 00:01:08.519 You guys, Yeah, with his preferences, he's usually wrong and 24 00:01:09.079 --> 00:01:11.760 you're right. Yeah. Okay, So based I'm gonna ask a 25 00:01:11.799 --> 00:01:12.719 series of questions and. 26 00:01:12.719 --> 00:01:15.120 Jeff doesn't even know the questions, don't look at him, 27 00:01:15.359 --> 00:01:18.159 and so we're just gonna see his preference on these things. So, okay, 28 00:01:18.359 --> 00:01:21.239 would you rather live on a beach or in a 29 00:01:21.400 --> 00:01:22.519 cabin in the woods? 30 00:01:22.719 --> 00:01:25.400 Kevin in the woods? Okay, So no doubt on that one. Yeah, 31 00:01:25.439 --> 00:01:27.040 I figure that one for me for sure. 32 00:01:27.120 --> 00:01:30.439 Beach, Yes, yes, I wish we had like a beach 33 00:01:30.519 --> 00:01:31.879 that didn't have coal in. 34 00:01:31.879 --> 00:01:36.200 It because going like ankle deep in the ocean. Yeah, 35 00:01:36.280 --> 00:01:39.480 you know, I've been I've been around the ocean several 36 00:01:39.519 --> 00:01:42.959 times in the last several months. I haven't actually gone 37 00:01:42.959 --> 00:01:45.480 out and gotten wet in the ocean. So I like 38 00:01:45.519 --> 00:01:47.400 to look at water, but I don't get in it. Yeah, 39 00:01:47.439 --> 00:01:49.040 I just I just like it. But I see the 40 00:01:49.280 --> 00:01:50.879 I see the people in the woods. 41 00:01:50.920 --> 00:01:51.439 Yeah. 42 00:01:51.480 --> 00:01:52.719 So we're different on the one, all right. 43 00:01:52.760 --> 00:01:54.280 Would you rather that's a tough one. Would you rather 44 00:01:54.400 --> 00:01:56.120 pet a tiger or ride a bowl? 45 00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:02.599 Really? Okay? Just because man, it's just three point seven 46 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:04.879 seconds on a bull named flu Mantu, right that that's 47 00:02:04.920 --> 00:02:06.840 in the whole Timogras. 48 00:02:07.239 --> 00:02:09.840 So it's actually funny because I actually wrapped my head 49 00:02:09.840 --> 00:02:11.599 around this one for probably too long. I actually say 50 00:02:11.639 --> 00:02:13.439 the way I thought about this one for some reason. 51 00:02:13.479 --> 00:02:16.280 Peta tiger. I think I'd go for it because when 52 00:02:16.280 --> 00:02:17.759 I see write a ball. Now we're talking, we don't 53 00:02:17.800 --> 00:02:18.960 know how long you have to be under the bowl. 54 00:02:18.960 --> 00:02:20.560 But when I see videos of the. 55 00:02:20.479 --> 00:02:22.599 Bulls, just stop, I feel like I would get tossed 56 00:02:22.599 --> 00:02:24.199 and stop somebody, We're a tiger. 57 00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:26.879 I'm just gonna take my chance. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd 58 00:02:26.960 --> 00:02:28.479 love to do either one. Yeah, but yeah, if I 59 00:02:28.479 --> 00:02:29.919 had to choose one of the other, ride a book. Okay, 60 00:02:29.919 --> 00:02:32.479 so although at my age now I'm fifty one, maybe 61 00:02:32.520 --> 00:02:36.199 I shouldn't write it, but that's all right. 62 00:02:36.280 --> 00:02:38.840 Would you rather have to hunt and butcher your own 63 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:40.960 meat or never meet again? 64 00:02:41.039 --> 00:02:42.919 I think you're hunting, but you're my own meat. 65 00:02:43.280 --> 00:02:44.560 Yes, yeah, you're talking to that. 66 00:02:44.639 --> 00:02:46.360 Yeah, no problem. I think I'd go with that one too. 67 00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:48.400 I could not imagine going to the rest of my 68 00:02:48.439 --> 00:02:51.319 life and not having a steak. I just I just 69 00:02:51.360 --> 00:02:52.719 can't imagine that. So I'm going to go with the 70 00:02:52.719 --> 00:02:53.240 same one as you. 71 00:02:53.280 --> 00:02:57.080 So a big deer hunter Turkey Hunter. Let's write stuff all. 72 00:02:57.080 --> 00:02:59.000 Right, So this next one would rather be fluent in 73 00:02:59.039 --> 00:03:01.800 every language, which we maybe beneficial for you, or be 74 00:03:01.840 --> 00:03:03.240 able to play every instrument. 75 00:03:03.479 --> 00:03:05.560 Oh, fluent in every language? Okay, so we're different and 76 00:03:05.560 --> 00:03:07.960 I'm gonna go and play every instrument. Yeah. I just 77 00:03:07.960 --> 00:03:10.360 think mainly because I don't know what the fluid like. 78 00:03:10.439 --> 00:03:13.800 How from my experience the minimal trial, like most of 79 00:03:13.800 --> 00:03:15.280 the places I've been, I just have to know Spanish, 80 00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:17.080 and even then, even though I got to like Spanish 81 00:03:17.080 --> 00:03:18.159 three in high school. 82 00:03:18.599 --> 00:03:21.520 Terrible, it uries myself. But yeah, being fluent every age 83 00:03:21.520 --> 00:03:23.759 would be pretty cool. Yeah. So you know, I've been 84 00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:25.439 in so many countries and then just never know what 85 00:03:25.439 --> 00:03:27.680 people are saying. Yes, so there's a little bit of yeah, 86 00:03:27.680 --> 00:03:29.639 I'm constantly saying in my transaction. Oh, wouldn't that be 87 00:03:29.680 --> 00:03:31.400 amazing though, just like translation? 88 00:03:31.479 --> 00:03:33.960 Yeah, but then also being able to pick up any instrument, 89 00:03:34.159 --> 00:03:35.039 like that's cool. 90 00:03:35.159 --> 00:03:37.240 I think a musician, I love music. 91 00:03:37.360 --> 00:03:39.599 Yeah, but maybe it doesn't seem that complicated to you, 92 00:03:39.680 --> 00:03:41.479 but for me, you can hand the guitar. I don't 93 00:03:41.479 --> 00:03:42.960 even know what to do with the idea of being 94 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:46.039 fluent in any instrument just sounds pretty epic. 95 00:03:46.080 --> 00:03:48.840 Okay, So last one, so you kind of have visions 96 00:03:48.840 --> 00:03:51.759 of you being dude. Yeah, and that's and I just 97 00:03:52.759 --> 00:03:53.199 would be that. 98 00:03:53.240 --> 00:03:55.400 You know, we always say at heritage, you know, it's 99 00:03:55.439 --> 00:03:57.199 not about it's not about us, you know. 100 00:03:57.240 --> 00:03:59.400 And I think maybe God didn't give me that ability 101 00:03:59.479 --> 00:04:02.639 because he because you'd be a rock star. I'd be 102 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:03.240 looking for that soul. 103 00:04:03.280 --> 00:04:06.159 Okay, last one, for one day only, would you able 104 00:04:06.159 --> 00:04:07.719 to fly or become invisible? 105 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:10.840 Fly? Yeah, I'm agree with that one. 106 00:04:11.680 --> 00:04:11.840 Yeah. 107 00:04:11.919 --> 00:04:12.120 Yeah. 108 00:04:12.159 --> 00:04:14.639 Do you like being invisible? Like I see the draw 109 00:04:14.680 --> 00:04:17.600 the people, but it feels kind of creepy. It's creepy. Yeah, yeah, 110 00:04:17.639 --> 00:04:19.439 it's creepy. You're just a creep at that point. With 111 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:22.000 the advantage of being invisible for somebody that's not trying 112 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:22.920 to do something bad. 113 00:04:22.800 --> 00:04:24.480 Is yeah, like I'm not trying to get intel lot. 114 00:04:24.519 --> 00:04:25.600 I don't want to know what people are saying. 115 00:04:25.600 --> 00:04:26.879 I don't want to know that. Yeah, I don't work 116 00:04:26.879 --> 00:04:29.079 for the CIA. Yeah I could care. That's about that. 117 00:04:29.199 --> 00:04:31.199 But fly man, that sounds like a great day. I'm 118 00:04:31.240 --> 00:04:33.720 not a Navy seal. I don't need to be, you know, invisible, 119 00:04:33.879 --> 00:04:34.279 that's right. 120 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:35.680 Hey, So one of the things we want to want 121 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:37.160 to encourage you to do before we get into this 122 00:04:37.199 --> 00:04:39.439 passage is make sure to like or subscribe. And one 123 00:04:39.480 --> 00:04:41.240 of the things that I've noticed for me when I 124 00:04:41.279 --> 00:04:42.680 open up in the morning, when I open up my 125 00:04:42.959 --> 00:04:45.600 Spotify app or even if it's YouTube, I'm. 126 00:04:45.399 --> 00:04:46.199 Instantly being hit. 127 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:48.000 It's not even alerts, it's just it's just telling me 128 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:49.879 there's a new episode. Yeah, and that helps so much. 129 00:04:49.920 --> 00:04:52.279 I just want to encourage you to like, subscribe. That's 130 00:04:52.319 --> 00:04:54.319 all those types of things that way you get those notifications, 131 00:04:54.439 --> 00:04:55.879 and even if it's for a week from now, you're 132 00:04:55.920 --> 00:04:56.839 reminded just to catch up. 133 00:04:56.879 --> 00:04:58.120 So I just want to encourage people to do that. 134 00:04:58.240 --> 00:05:00.879 As we get into Romans chapter nine, do you want 135 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:02.720 to set anything up for the listeners? 136 00:05:03.560 --> 00:05:06.560 So you know, he deals with a couple of difficult 137 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:10.240 topics that I think are controversial and Christians have been 138 00:05:10.319 --> 00:05:12.920 kind of disagreeing about these for about five hundred years 139 00:05:13.000 --> 00:05:14.759 or so. Oh wow, So I'm not sure we'll solve 140 00:05:14.759 --> 00:05:19.360 it today in the next twenty minutes, but yes, you know, 141 00:05:19.399 --> 00:05:22.000 so give us a little bit of grace and you 142 00:05:22.000 --> 00:05:23.040 know as we plot through it. 143 00:05:23.120 --> 00:05:25.120 Yes, all right, So here's what Paul had to say, 144 00:05:25.360 --> 00:05:28.600 with Christ as my witness. I speak with utter truthfulness. 145 00:05:28.600 --> 00:05:31.600 My conscience and the Holy Spirit confirm it. My heart 146 00:05:31.639 --> 00:05:34.480 is filled with bitter sorrow and unending grief for my people, 147 00:05:34.519 --> 00:05:37.120 my Jewish brothers and sisters. I would be willing to 148 00:05:37.160 --> 00:05:39.879 be forever cursed, caught off from Christ, if that would 149 00:05:39.920 --> 00:05:42.800 save them. They are the people of Israel, chosen to 150 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:45.600 be God's adopted children. God revealed his glory to them, 151 00:05:45.879 --> 00:05:48.160 He made covenance with them, and gave them his law. 152 00:05:48.600 --> 00:05:50.759 He gave them the privilege of worshiping Him and receiving 153 00:05:50.759 --> 00:05:55.120 his wonderful promises. Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are their ancestors, 154 00:05:55.439 --> 00:05:57.800 and Christ himself was an Israelite as far as his 155 00:05:57.920 --> 00:06:00.680 human nature is concerned, and he is God, the one 156 00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:03.279 who rules over everything and is worthy of eternal praise. 157 00:06:03.439 --> 00:06:05.480 Amen. Well, then has. 158 00:06:05.319 --> 00:06:08.680 God failed to fill his promise to Israel. No, for 159 00:06:08.839 --> 00:06:10.879 not all who are born into the nation of Israel 160 00:06:10.920 --> 00:06:14.240 are truly members of God's people. Being descendants of Abraham 161 00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:17.720 doesn't make them truly Abraham's children. The scriptures say, Isaac 162 00:06:17.800 --> 00:06:19.959 is a son through whom your descendants will be counted, 163 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:24.199 though Abraham had other children too. This means that Abraham's 164 00:06:24.199 --> 00:06:27.000 physical descendants are not necessarily children of God. Only the 165 00:06:27.079 --> 00:06:29.720 children of that promise are considered to be Abraham's children. 166 00:06:30.040 --> 00:06:33.079 For God had promised I will return about this time 167 00:06:33.120 --> 00:06:36.079 next year, and Sarah will have a son. This son 168 00:06:36.199 --> 00:06:38.920 was our ancestor Isaac. When he married Rebecca, she gave 169 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:41.360 birth to twins. But before they were born, before they 170 00:06:41.399 --> 00:06:43.920 had done anything good or bad, she received a message 171 00:06:43.959 --> 00:06:47.120 from God. This message shows that God chooses people according 172 00:06:47.160 --> 00:06:49.920 to his own purposes. He calls people not according to 173 00:06:49.959 --> 00:06:52.839 their good or bad works. She was told, your older 174 00:06:52.879 --> 00:06:55.920 son will serve your younger son. In the words of scriptures, 175 00:06:56.040 --> 00:06:58.279 I love Jacob, but I rejected Esau. 176 00:06:59.240 --> 00:07:00.959 Are we saying then that God was unfair? 177 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:03.519 Of course not, for God said to Moses, I will 178 00:07:03.519 --> 00:07:06.439 show mercy to anyone I choose, and I'll show compassion 179 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:09.639 to anyone I choose. So it is God who decides 180 00:07:09.680 --> 00:07:12.920 to show mercy. We can neither choose it nor work 181 00:07:13.000 --> 00:07:15.959 for it. The scriptures say that God told Pharaoh, I 182 00:07:16.000 --> 00:07:18.240 have appointed you for the very purpose of displaying my 183 00:07:18.319 --> 00:07:20.439 power in you and to spread my fame throughout the earth. 184 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:23.480 So you see, God chooses to show mercy to some, 185 00:07:23.920 --> 00:07:25.639 and he chooses to harden the hearts of others so 186 00:07:25.639 --> 00:07:26.600 they refuse to listen. 187 00:07:28.040 --> 00:07:28.560 Well, then you. 188 00:07:28.600 --> 00:07:31.120 Might say, why does God blame people for not responding? 189 00:07:31.439 --> 00:07:34.959 Haven't they simply done what he makes them do? No, 190 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:37.759 don't say that. Who are you a mere human being 191 00:07:37.759 --> 00:07:40.279 to argue with God? Should the thing that was created 192 00:07:40.360 --> 00:07:42.639 say to the one who created it, why have you 193 00:07:42.720 --> 00:07:45.319 made me like this? When a potter makes jars out 194 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:47.120 of clay, doesn't he have a right to use the 195 00:07:47.720 --> 00:07:50.120 same lump of clay to make one jar for decoration 196 00:07:50.199 --> 00:07:52.600 and another to throw garbage into In the same way. 197 00:07:52.639 --> 00:07:54.759 Even though God has the right to show his anger 198 00:07:54.879 --> 00:07:57.600 and his power, he's very patient with those on whom 199 00:07:57.639 --> 00:08:01.360 his anger falls, who are destined for destruction. He does 200 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:03.279 this to make the riches of his glory shine even 201 00:08:03.319 --> 00:08:06.399 brighter on those to whom he shows mercy, who were 202 00:08:06.399 --> 00:08:09.120 prepared in advance for glory. And we are among those 203 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:12.319 whom he selected, both from the Jews and from the Gentiles. 204 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:16.399 Concerning the Gentiles, God says this in the prophecy of Hoseiah. 205 00:08:16.519 --> 00:08:18.480 Those who are not my people, I will now call 206 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:20.959 my people, and I will love those whom I did 207 00:08:21.040 --> 00:08:24.279 not love before. And then at the place where they 208 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:26.160 were told, you are not my people, there will be 209 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:28.000 called there they will. 210 00:08:27.839 --> 00:08:29.199 Be called the children of the Living God. 211 00:08:29.480 --> 00:08:32.600 And concerning Israel, Isaiah the prophet cried out, though the 212 00:08:32.600 --> 00:08:34.679 people of Israel are as numerous as the sand of 213 00:08:34.720 --> 00:08:37.279 the seashore, only a remn that will be saved, for 214 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:39.600 the Lord will carry out his sentence upon the earth 215 00:08:39.919 --> 00:08:42.840 quickly and with finality. And Isaiah said the same thing 216 00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:45.480 in another place. If the Lord of Heaven's armies had 217 00:08:45.480 --> 00:08:47.720 not spared a few of our children, we would have 218 00:08:47.720 --> 00:08:49.919 been wiped out like Sodom, destroyed like Amura. 219 00:08:50.879 --> 00:08:52.720 So what does all this mean? 220 00:08:52.840 --> 00:08:55.279 Even though the Gentiles were not trying to follow God's standards, 221 00:08:55.399 --> 00:08:58.600 they were made right with God. And it was by 222 00:08:59.000 --> 00:09:01.480 faith that this took place. But the people of Israel, 223 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:03.559 who tried so hard to get right with God by 224 00:09:03.639 --> 00:09:07.279 keeping the law, never succeeded. Why not Because they were 225 00:09:07.279 --> 00:09:09.080 trying to get right with God by keeping the law 226 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:11.799 instead of by trusting in him. They stumbled over the 227 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:14.320 great rock in their path. God warned them of this 228 00:09:14.399 --> 00:09:18.000 in the scriptures when he said, I'm placing a stone 229 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:21.240 in Israel that makes people stumble. In fact, actually I 230 00:09:21.240 --> 00:09:22.639 think I got a little firm ahead of myself. 231 00:09:23.000 --> 00:09:24.120 I cover that the next day I finished it. 232 00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:27.360 Yeah, I'm placing a stone in Jerusalem that makes people stumble, 233 00:09:27.399 --> 00:09:29.559 a rock that makes them fall. But anyone who trust 234 00:09:29.600 --> 00:09:31.799 in Him will never be disgraced, which Rectal talking about 235 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:34.120 a little bit tomorrow morning. So well we can pick up, yes, 236 00:09:34.919 --> 00:09:35.399 the rest of that. 237 00:09:35.480 --> 00:09:37.960 There's so much through this. This chapter is substantial, but 238 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:39.159 I think it was important for you to get to 239 00:09:39.240 --> 00:09:41.639 verse thirty. Quite honestly, what does this all mean? Because 240 00:09:41.679 --> 00:09:43.279 you can kind of get in the weeds on some 241 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:46.519 of these things that have had some very big theological 242 00:09:49.080 --> 00:09:53.320 decisions made or positions taken as a result of this passage. 243 00:09:53.360 --> 00:09:56.759 But anyways, let's start at the beginning of chapter nine, 244 00:09:57.399 --> 00:09:59.679 and he's saying, you know, because we've just come through 245 00:10:00.440 --> 00:10:04.559 God loves us, and you know, we've been delivered from law, 246 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:09.080 we've been delivered from judgment, and nothing can ever separate 247 00:10:09.159 --> 00:10:12.000 us from God's loves. So because of that, if God's 248 00:10:12.039 --> 00:10:14.000 for us, who could ever be against us? Well then 249 00:10:14.039 --> 00:10:16.519 he pivots a little bit and goes into let's talk 250 00:10:16.519 --> 00:10:20.879 about Israel, and Paul says, with Christ as my witness. 251 00:10:21.399 --> 00:10:25.240 I'm speaking with utter truthfulness. And then he says, my 252 00:10:25.440 --> 00:10:27.960 heart is filled with bitter sorrow and unending grief for 253 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:30.960 my people, my Jewish brothers and sisters. He said, I'd 254 00:10:30.960 --> 00:10:34.080 be willing to be forever cursed, cut off from Christ 255 00:10:34.159 --> 00:10:35.039 if that would save them. 256 00:10:35.639 --> 00:10:35.840 Wow. 257 00:10:35.919 --> 00:10:39.240 What a commitment. So regardless of everything else he says 258 00:10:39.279 --> 00:10:41.679 in this passage, he loves his people so much that 259 00:10:41.799 --> 00:10:44.559 he's saying, if God would do it, I'd be willing 260 00:10:44.600 --> 00:10:46.519 to go to Hell so that all of my people 261 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:54.799 could be saved. Right. That's a pretty incredible commitment to evangelism, yep, 262 00:10:55.039 --> 00:10:59.879 to the importance of the Gospel for everybody and his 263 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:02.360 is I think it kind of inspires me. I pray 264 00:11:02.440 --> 00:11:04.960 regularly that God would break my heart with the things 265 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:07.200 that break his heart. And that's what Paul saying is 266 00:11:07.279 --> 00:11:09.960 his heart is so broken for his people he'd be 267 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:11.759 willing to go to Hell in order for them to 268 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:12.240 be sayd. 269 00:11:12.120 --> 00:11:14.399 Yeah, especially as somebody who is within the last few 270 00:11:14.440 --> 00:11:16.519 years of this as a newer believer, right, I mean, 271 00:11:16.840 --> 00:11:19.240 so he's kind of wrestling with what he grew up 272 00:11:19.320 --> 00:11:21.440 knowing in the people that he loved and the law 273 00:11:21.559 --> 00:11:23.480 and the israel all that stuff. And then here he 274 00:11:23.600 --> 00:11:25.919 is kind of face with this, with this idea of 275 00:11:25.960 --> 00:11:28.679 salvation in Christ alone. And so you could tell definitely 276 00:11:28.759 --> 00:11:30.759 like he's got this new found like God's willing to 277 00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:33.159 lay down his life for me. And now he's almost saying, 278 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:34.200 like I almost want to take the. 279 00:11:34.240 --> 00:11:37.240 Place right so that the Israelites could be right with God. Yeah, 280 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:39.480 this is a couple of decades into his walk. Oh 281 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:43.720 is it okay with Christ? But it's still you know, 282 00:11:43.799 --> 00:11:45.240 he didn't grow up a Christian. 283 00:11:45.080 --> 00:11:47.200 Right right, right, and so yeah, yeh caught up on 284 00:11:47.240 --> 00:11:49.960 the timeline there, But still it's just somebody who you 285 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:51.759 could tell it just has that heart, like you said, 286 00:11:51.799 --> 00:11:54.159 and he's a very passionate guy seeing all of his right, 287 00:11:54.200 --> 00:11:56.559 he's passion He's saying, I'm willing to be caught off 288 00:11:56.559 --> 00:11:58.519 from Christ if that would save them. 289 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:01.960 So then he's he's dealing with a controversy among the 290 00:12:02.039 --> 00:12:06.080 Christians because you remember, Christianity comes out of Judaism, right, 291 00:12:06.399 --> 00:12:09.679 so it comes out of the Jewish faith. Christianity is 292 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:16.000 a fulfillment of the Jewish search for a Messiah. And 293 00:12:16.120 --> 00:12:19.919 so you know Paul was a Jewish Pharisee. He grew 294 00:12:20.000 --> 00:12:22.480 up in the Jewish belief system all those kinds of things, 295 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:27.159 and the Jewish religion is built around the idea that 296 00:12:27.279 --> 00:12:32.480 God selected the Jews as his chosen people, and so 297 00:12:32.720 --> 00:12:35.759 culturally there's an opinion God just likes us better, right, 298 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:37.960 that's kind of he's pushing back on that just a 299 00:12:38.000 --> 00:12:40.799 little bit. The reason why God chose the Jews was 300 00:12:40.799 --> 00:12:43.879 because Jesus was going to come from the family of Abraham. 301 00:12:44.200 --> 00:12:47.559 God had promised Abraham that through him the whole world 302 00:12:47.600 --> 00:12:50.519 would be blessed, right, and that that blessing would be 303 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:52.840 the Messiah, the one who comes and solves the sin 304 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:56.320 problem for humanity. That was the promise. So then as 305 00:12:56.399 --> 00:12:59.919 he tells the stories of Abraham and Isaac and Jacob 306 00:13:00.159 --> 00:13:02.799 and Esau and all those, he's referencing the fact that 307 00:13:02.879 --> 00:13:06.240 God had promised that the Messiah would come and that 308 00:13:06.360 --> 00:13:09.759 the promised people would come. But he's pushing back in 309 00:13:09.879 --> 00:13:13.879 this storyline against the idea that they're elite just because 310 00:13:13.879 --> 00:13:18.000 they're elite, right, Oh, God likes us better. Instead, he's 311 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:20.480 saying God chooses who he wants to choose, and God 312 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:23.200 rejects those he's going to reject, right, and that's a 313 00:13:23.320 --> 00:13:24.799 pretty strong thing. 314 00:13:25.360 --> 00:13:28.639 So he says to what like verse fifteen, R, I 315 00:13:28.679 --> 00:13:29.960 want to choose and I'll show campassion. 316 00:13:30.039 --> 00:13:34.240 Yeah, right, But before that, what he's saying is, just 317 00:13:34.399 --> 00:13:38.879 because you are of a specific population group here, just 318 00:13:38.919 --> 00:13:41.360 because you're in Israelite, doesn't mean you're one of God's 319 00:13:41.399 --> 00:13:45.879 chosen people, right, which is a shock to the Jews 320 00:13:45.879 --> 00:13:48.559 that would be reading this book, right, Yes, what do 321 00:13:48.639 --> 00:13:51.240 you mean? And he's well, just because you are related 322 00:13:51.279 --> 00:13:55.200 that Abraham doesn't automatically mean that you're one of God's children. 323 00:13:55.679 --> 00:13:58.279 This would have been a shock to a Jewish person. 324 00:13:59.320 --> 00:14:02.240 And then he points out, well, Abraham had had other children, right, 325 00:14:02.440 --> 00:14:05.360 and they weren't the chosen ones. So just because you're 326 00:14:05.360 --> 00:14:09.320 related to Abraham doesn't mean that you're chosen. Let's apply 327 00:14:09.399 --> 00:14:11.879 it today. A lot of people grow up and go, well, 328 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:15.159 I was baptized Catholic when I was a baby. I'm 329 00:14:15.159 --> 00:14:18.039 on my way to heaven. And if Paul was writing 330 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:20.159 to you, he'd say, just because you were born into 331 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:22.039 a Christian family doesn't mean you're a Christian. I was 332 00:14:22.080 --> 00:14:25.720 born a Christian as well. I've always been a Christian. Oh, 333 00:14:25.799 --> 00:14:27.799 I grew up in a Lutheran family, and I've always 334 00:14:27.799 --> 00:14:30.879 been a Christian or I don't ever remember not believing 335 00:14:30.960 --> 00:14:33.559 in Jesus right. And what Paul would say is, wait 336 00:14:33.600 --> 00:14:37.399 a minute, you are not in God's family because of 337 00:14:37.440 --> 00:14:40.840 the family you were born into. Right, Jesus says in 338 00:14:41.279 --> 00:14:45.519 John chapter three, you must be born again. So Paul 339 00:14:45.639 --> 00:14:49.000 is pushing back on You're not good with God just 340 00:14:49.080 --> 00:14:51.480 because your family was good with God. Yes, you're not 341 00:14:51.759 --> 00:14:54.120 in with God just because you related to people who 342 00:14:54.200 --> 00:14:57.240 were in with God. So each of us stand individually 343 00:14:57.360 --> 00:15:00.799 on our own. That's the big idea of this passage. 344 00:15:00.879 --> 00:15:03.200 Yes, yes, I agree, And even as it goes further along, 345 00:15:03.240 --> 00:15:04.799 it's kind of going back to something we talked about 346 00:15:04.879 --> 00:15:07.240 last week with Chris and I just but even in 347 00:15:07.360 --> 00:15:08.720 verse sixteen, one of the things that says in the 348 00:15:08.799 --> 00:15:11.120 Life Application Study Bible that I think is so important. 349 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:13.480 Again it's it's a theme here, but it says, this 350 00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:16.360 is a footnote. It says the fallacy of gaining salvation 351 00:15:16.480 --> 00:15:19.480 by human effort remains as strong as ever. People still 352 00:15:19.559 --> 00:15:21.759 think good intentions are the key to unlock the door 353 00:15:21.840 --> 00:15:22.440 to eternal life. 354 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:23.200 Isn't that true today? 355 00:15:23.320 --> 00:15:25.720 Oh? Yeah, By the time they get to try the lock, 356 00:15:25.840 --> 00:15:28.200 they will find that the key does not fit. Others 357 00:15:28.279 --> 00:15:30.639 imagine that their efforts are building an invisible ladder to 358 00:15:30.720 --> 00:15:34.399 heaven made up of service, family, position, reputation, good work, 359 00:15:34.440 --> 00:15:36.879 and desire, although none of these rungs will support a feather. 360 00:15:37.279 --> 00:15:39.960 People are so busy trying to reach God they completely 361 00:15:40.000 --> 00:15:41.759 miss the truth that God has already reached down to them. 362 00:15:41.919 --> 00:15:44.159 We cannot earn God's mercy. We could, it would not 363 00:15:44.240 --> 00:15:46.399 be mercy. And it's just a reminder because. 364 00:15:46.120 --> 00:15:47.639 I mean, how many times you meet with somebody, you know, 365 00:15:47.679 --> 00:15:48.919 become a businessman. 366 00:15:49.279 --> 00:15:52.000 Like your walk with with Christ. Like he's like, but yeah, 367 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:53.480 I do some good things. I go to church once 368 00:15:53.480 --> 00:15:53.799 in a while. 369 00:15:53.879 --> 00:15:54.360 You know, I try. 370 00:15:54.559 --> 00:15:55.960 I try to give and I try, you know, to 371 00:15:56.080 --> 00:15:57.000 delimit my cussing. You know. 372 00:15:57.039 --> 00:15:59.039 It's like it's all the lists of It's the list, 373 00:15:59.159 --> 00:16:01.759 right and faithful my family, Yeah, exactly, And it's just 374 00:16:01.879 --> 00:16:05.200 it's just a list of things. So Paul highlights. Just 375 00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:08.879 before that, Paul highlights the idea of Abraham and then 376 00:16:09.039 --> 00:16:12.159 of Isaac. You know, Abraham had other children, but it 377 00:16:12.240 --> 00:16:14.039 was Isaac that the promise came through. That's what God 378 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:16.279 had promised, and then God said it's going to be 379 00:16:16.320 --> 00:16:19.159 through Jacob, not Jacob and Esau were twins. Yeah, and 380 00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:24.200 there's that phrase, you know, Jacob have I whereas I 381 00:16:24.320 --> 00:16:28.720 love Jacob, but I rejected Jacob. So there's other translations 382 00:16:28.759 --> 00:16:30.759 that would say Jacob, have I loved and Esau have 383 00:16:30.840 --> 00:16:33.600 I hated? And that's a shocking thing. People go, oh, 384 00:16:33.679 --> 00:16:36.240 my goodness. Even before they were born, God hated Isa. 385 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:39.519 So we have to remember Paul is not talking about 386 00:16:39.600 --> 00:16:45.960 individuals here. Paul's talking about the Israelite or the Jewish lineage. 387 00:16:46.279 --> 00:16:49.240 So he's talking about the people of Israel and the 388 00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:52.919 so Esau became the father of Edam, a whole nation 389 00:16:53.080 --> 00:16:57.000 of people that rejected God and went to idol worship, 390 00:16:57.320 --> 00:17:00.639 and then Jacob became the father of all of Israelite 391 00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:05.480 people who sometimes honored God, sometimes worshiped idols, but for 392 00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:07.480 the most part they were the people of God carrying 393 00:17:07.559 --> 00:17:11.440 the message of God to humanity. So God is not saying, oh, 394 00:17:11.480 --> 00:17:14.759 I don't like that guy. I don't myself. Yeah, especially Gause. Jacob, 395 00:17:14.799 --> 00:17:17.799 it wasn't like he was killing it anyways. Was a liar, 396 00:17:18.359 --> 00:17:22.880 He was a cheater. Jacob was Jacob deceiver. Deceiver, Yeah 397 00:17:23.200 --> 00:17:25.160 right there. So it's not that Jacob was a good 398 00:17:25.160 --> 00:17:28.680 guy and Esau was a bad guy. He wasn't like, oh, man, 399 00:17:28.799 --> 00:17:31.640 Jacob's going to be great Esa. He thinks instead, what 400 00:17:31.720 --> 00:17:34.960 he's looking God is looking beyond the individual to the people, 401 00:17:35.400 --> 00:17:37.680