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Speaker 1: God indeed is my Savior. I am confident and unafraid. My strength and my courage is the Lord, and he has been my Savior.

Speaker 2: Welcome back to Scripture for your inner outcasts. It's Friday, August 14th, 2026, the memorial of Saint Maximilian Kolbe. Today, we're joined by Doctor Peter Malinowski. He's a clinical psychologist and the co-founder of our parent organization, Souls and Hearts.

Speaker 1: Scripture for your Inner Outcasts listeners. It is so good to be back with you. Thank you for being here. Thank you. To manage your parts, for allowing exiled parts to be here. I want to start with the Responsorial Psalm, Isaiah 12 verse two. God indeed is my Savior. I am confident and unafraid. My strength and my courage is the Lord, and he has been my Savior. It is so clear to me in these years of doing parts, work with myself, with other people that you exiles are looking for a savior. You exiles are looking for a redeemer. You want to be rescued from your isolation, from your heartbreak. You want to know that you're okay. Even secular writers like Richard Schwartz, the founder of IFS, acknowledges a need that exiles have for what he calls redemption. Let me read to you from his book, Internal Family Systems Therapy. He writes, the second form of enmeshment that develops from the sense of abandonment involves exiles carrying the burden of worthlessness from a childhood with abusive or rejecting adults, and desperately seeking approval or protection from someone similar. When they perceive such a person as a potential redeemer, they attach with tenacity and are willing to do anything for that person's approval, affection, or protection. So what Richard Schwartz, Martha Sweezy are saying here is that exiles are seeking redemption from either the one who harmed them or neglected them or abused them, or from someone who resembles the one that harmed them. The idea is that if I was rejected, if I was abused, if I was condemned, if I was abandoned by this person, it was so important to me.

Speaker 1: I need to have that undone by the same person or by a similar person. And that can lead to all kinds of acting out. But let's go back to the Responsorial Psalm. God indeed is my Savior. There is no Savior other than God. God indeed is my Savior. I am confident and unafraid. We want that confidence, which is one of those eight C's to extend to you exiles and not a confidence in one's own self, not a confidence in, you know, my capacity to save myself, which is where ifs can go sometimes. There's a huge emphasis on the on the innermost self as basically the one that you've been waiting for and things like that. We want to remember who our Savior really is, and we want to share that with all of our parts. My strength and my courage is the Lord. Again, another one of those C words, courage, my strength and my courage is the Lord. And he has been my Savior. So one of the things that we want, and this is again to you manager parts, is we want this deep confidence, this courage in God, this confidence in God, this clarity to extend to all of our parts. Integration is so necessary. So we are not going to save ourselves by banishing parts of us who are in such need.

Speaker 2: For more content from Doctor Peter, you can check out his podcast, which is called Interior Integration for Catholics.

Speaker 1: Our lady, our mother, Untier of knots. Pray for us, Saint Joseph, pray for us. Saint John the Baptist pray for us.