I just listened to that podcast because I missed the, on the 13th
because I was involved with school and so my head's already going with
the tier one, division.
I'm already thinking about that from a different perspective,
Hey everybody, it's Cheri Dotterer here at Tier One Interventions podcast.
I'm here today with Jonily Zupancic and we are in class today with a live
group of ladies and gentlemen who are learning about the Mastery Math method.
So I'm gonna let Jonily talk and if there's any intervention that I wanna add
to the puzzle, we will do but for now, I'm signing it all over to Jonily and let
us learn a little bit about mathematics.
Girl.
Y'all, this is Jay-Z.
I'm Jonily Zupancic, I'm your math specialist, your main Mathineer.
I if you are listening to this podcast or you're watching this podcast on YouTube I
want to give a disclaimer and a warning.
This is level two.
You're listening in on a level two version of Mastery Math method.
Mastery Math Method is strengthening our tier one core general classroom.
We cannot have in our schools effective interventions and effective tier two and
tier three without the strongest core.
So if you're listening to this, that's the mindset that I want you to have.
You should be listening to this.
If you are a general classroom teacher, a special ed teacher, a parent, a
school board member, a superintendent, a curriculum director, a principal, every
stakeholder should be involved in the qualities of a strong tier one general
classroom environment and the experiences that students are going to have.
But again, the disclaimer is this is upleveled.
Natalie, I'm gonna use your word.
I love it.
I think it was uplevel it like you're, it's, this is definitely the
level version of the mathematics.
So to get the lower level versions, you'll listen to some other podcasts,
but don't not listen to this because you don't understand it.
And I was just telling Beth, Beth is coming into level two not
having the exposures to level one.
And that is actually almost better because if you're listening to level
two and you're a first grade teacher and you think to yourself I'm not
gonna teach that math to my kids.
It's not about the math.
Today I'm gonna be sharing Uplevel Mathematics.
But what I want you to hear is not about the mathematics.
What I want you to hear today is about how we get high achieving
kids, and I'm gonna do that through some high level mathematics.
I am back in the classroom this year after 14 years of not having been
teacher of record for my own students, and I am loving every minute of it.
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So behind me, you're gonna see the result of many other groups
that I am leading this year.
So I'm leading a masterclass group, a mastermind group.
And actually before I jump into the math, because we're gonna get, we're
gonna get real spicy on the math today.
Does anybody have anything to or share or comment or whatever
the podcast is still on.
I know there was a little pause, but I think it's important, even if you're
listening to the podcast, one of the great instructional strategies is wait time.
So I'm gonna ask again.
I'm gonna wait again and I'm going to give double wait time.
So anybody listening here live, do you have anything to add?
Any questions, any words of wisdom?
Any thoughts?
Go ahead.
If you're missing, put in the comments.
Got it.
If you're on the podcast, put them in the comments.
We will respond.
It may take us a couple weeks.
'Cause I don't, we don't check the comments every day.
Unfortunately.
I don't, just don't have the time.
But put your information in the comments.
We will get back to you.
You know what, Cheri, I always forget about this.
I always forget about this.
You are so good.
I love you so much.
And I'm gonna reiterate that if you're listening on a podcast or you're
watching the podcast on YouTube, I've already said and subscribe.
But now it's even more important.
To comment and start the conversation.
Start the conversation and comment to each other.
Even if Cheri and I don't get in there to respond, create your own community there.
Get the comments going, say stuff.
If you are tired of this too, then say it now.
I do have to give another disclaimer.
Let's try to be as positive as we can.
So I think that just, being a B and being negative and being that's,
that hasn't changed anything.
We see that all the time on socials and we continue to do that
and it's not changing anything.
It's like when students, they have bad behavior in schools and then
we give a detention and we call home and we do this and we do that.
We have to ask ourselves, did any of it change the behavior?
Did any of it change the behavior?
And if the answer is no, then we have to do something that's
gonna change the behavior.
So don't just get online and throw out your complaints about the school system.
Okay.
Nobody wants to hear that.
Let's have good positive energy and real conversations about strategies
and techniques that can actually make a difference and make changes.
I just listened to that podcast because I missed the, on the 13th
because I was involved with school and so my head's already going with
the tier one, division.
I'm already thinking about that from a different perspective,
I know.
It's crazy.
It's not something I wanted to do, but it's almost a necessity now.
I know.
Now tell them,
listen.
Okay.
I just put on, I just put on Simon and I was listening to
him for the past half hour.
Love him.
He's just, and I don't even know, and I'm like I'm not abnormal.
All I have in my head was interleaving, all that.
The stuff we talked about.
Y I say yesterday, but the other day, and I'm thinking, oh my God,
how appropriate is this for the education of the kids and the math?
And I'm thinking, oh my God, if you only knew.
It just connects.
It's, you guys.
You guys put a fever in us.
It's, I started with her and then she connected me with you.
No, you guys, I tell you, every single time I get inspiration.
I go and move with it.
It's that's why your keeping in your little bubble is not gonna work.
You need to branch out and agreed.
I'll be your cheerleader, because you can't stay in your little bubble.
, I'll be one of the bubbles that move along.
You know what I mean?
Blow your bubble.
Blow your wand, and we'll be at your little bubbles.
Think about that.
Okay, here's one bubble and here's another bubble.
Okay?
Just think of us as moving along in the wind.
But you have to move.
You can't just be stagnant in there.
Don't make me cry, but I'll take your thoughts and move them this way.
Everybody, grade two will take your thoughts and grade,
grade six Krista, right?
You'll take her thoughts and move them.
Everybody, Natalie will take your thoughts and move them.
We're not gonna say, oh, this is my idea.
We give you credit because you are inspirational to us and
you've made us want to do this.
I don't, I, I have crafts up the yin yang.
I could go do, I'm not doing that.
I'm here with you.
I made my office up better, just because of you and Cheri, glad it's
you guys are not my just mentors.
You guys are my friends now.
Like you say, we're the elite, but we're friends now.
We want this to happen.
You're in the right place for
this.
I know.
I listened to your that podcast that Cheri sent me about the
division is counting and I have been using the , what do you call it?
The one 20 chart . . . But now this kind of refines it and I'm really
excited 'cause I have couple math groups at different age levels.
Age levels.
I'm real excited about that.
I wanna hear, do you, can you start with division or do you have to go to addition?
I'm just not sure.
'cause my kids are really behind and it's very hard for them, to learn.
Math is a big emotional.
X for them.
So agree.
Hey everybody, it's Cheri again.
If you're loving these strategies and you want to join our Mastery
Math Method Masterclass, we hold this hour long event once a month
and we'd love to have you join.
What we talk about there is how to improve your math skills in 10 days.
Can you imagine 10 days, whether you are a math teacher or an occupational
therapist, you can see exactly how to shift teaching so that every student,
no matter their starting point, can master core math concepts and reserve.
So reserve your seat today and go over to disability labs.com/calendar
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So you're saying it beautifully, but I will answer one of your questions.
Yes.
Okay.
I'm a huge proponent of beginning with division before addition.
Oh wow.
I like to teach Wow.
The other
operations.
Okay.
Through division.
And actually I do it because wow.
Toddlers, they know sharing, they know equal sharing.
They're very clear if they don't get the exact same as somebody else.
So that is the essence of division.
So addition.
Conceptually means really nothing to kids.
I don't know why we start with addition.
And it's not easy.
Okay.
That's
a pa Oh, go ahead.
No,
it's a paradigm shift for me.
I gotta, it's, roll it around.
'cause that hasn't been the way I've been approaching it as a
special ed teacher, but I've always been a little bit lost on how to
sequentially get them involved in math.
I only have 30 minutes.
That's the other thing, they just, limit me in what I can do.
But I'm going to use Brain Gym because they're coming from their
intensive settings and they're frustrated and everything.
Yeah.
And yeah.
So I gotta do that.
And.
Anyway.
Beth I'm let me warn everybody today.
So this is level two, so I'm not going to go back and review.
So Beth, you might be lost, but don't stop coming.
Okay.
That's what I wanna say because I'm going to uplevel the math.
The purpose of mastery math method, tier one interventions level two
for this 20 25, 20 26 school year is for us to record and document the
content for the level two course.
I don't want you to not come because I'm gonna teach something here and
I'm not scaffolding to get there because any exposure is fine.
You don't need the exposures in order because,
okay.
. You should have more stuff that you can access now.
Beth, you're jumping into like in college when we have like level 6 0 3, like the
600 level, you're jumping into that.
But I don't want you to, I want you to keep coming don't let this scare you
off, but then you have access digitally to level one where it's gonna take
it all the way back to the beginning.
Even before the beginning, so you're just gonna get it in a different order.
Okay.
Which
is counterintuitive.
It's like teaching division first.
You can do this, there's no order to it.
Okay.
So don't worry about that.
Okay.
And then just know the math that I'm teaching you on these Saturdays
for level two is not what you're going to implement with your kids.
You are here to actually learn the content as an adult so that you can
better implement this the other math stuff from level one, if that makes sense.
Oh, okay.
Yes it does.
So I have to go back to level one
and don't worry about and look at that when I'm gonna refer to level
one stuff and make connections, but you're gonna be like, I'm not
gonna teach that math to my kids.
No, you're not.
You're not Even my Natalie's and Christa's, and especially my
Amy's here, my Amy is not gonna be teaching the math on these Saturday.
She teaches first grade, so she's not gonna be teaching the math that
I'm teaching to her first graders, but she's been through level one.
She's been through like everything with me.
She just won't leave
Amy.
Oh boy,
You're my doll and I love you so much.
I can't do this without Amy.
I could not do what I did with my content with the littles without Amy Garrison.
I just need to say that and I need to say it to the whole world
because I'm secondary trained.
So Amy Garrison has been the absolute necessity for putting
Informal notation what this looks like in first grade.
Thanks for tuning in to this first episode of our Level Two
Mastery Math Method series.
Today you heard why division is the true starting point in math, and
how equal sharing is actually the foundation of every other operation.
Next time, we’ll take this one step further and ask: what
moral obligation do we carry as educators once we see the data?
Our next episode digs into the responsibility we have to shift
practice—not just for test scores, but for student confidence and future success.
Until then, remember.
every student deserves the chance to see themselves as a mathematician.
And as Cheri and Jonily say, Go Be Awesome!
Go Be Brilliant!
For you were put here for such a time as this.