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Unknown: Yeah, whatever happened
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Lioness. It was a great series,
and they had two seasons. All of

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a sudden, we've been waiting on
season three for years now.

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Yeah,

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isn't that the kid in Charlie
Brown with the blanket? Lioness,

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is that what you're talking this
lioness? of a mess, I guess I'm

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just not as hip as you, Johnny
D. Welcome to a podcast about

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music and entertainment. Before
it all goes down the disposal,

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this is Circling the drain.

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Hey, welcome back to Circling
the Drain. Johnny B, Johnny

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Bozeman, right here. My favorite
person on this planet, one of my

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favorite people, Jay Harper,
right over there. How's your

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game

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time? Are we doing another one
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Yes, we are.

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Oh, okay. Well, Heidi, all
right. Thanks for waking me up.

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Hey, Johnny B. Always good to
have you, man. It's

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always good to have you.

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All right, and we all in you and
I, we always love our the third

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J of the trifecta.

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That's right.

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I was trying to figure out how I
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I won't be able to hit the
camera button. Yeah, you need a

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bigger desk.

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Come on, we know we can kid each
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and we haven't been around each
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July,

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that's true, man. Gosh, you know
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the year, is that not insane?

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I know I just had a birthday,
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Now you care

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to share how old you are, Johnny
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really

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okay? Well, I didn't ask you how
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guess I could. I mean, that's,
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but I could, I could, it's a

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personal, no, I'm,

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I'm 68 now. Okay, well, man,

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congratulations, Johnny B. I
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I look pretty damn good. A

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lot of folks would be happy to
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trust me, I am.

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Yeah, you're no

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longer six seven, so I'm

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old about, I'm about two and a
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Are you?

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Yep, not too, not too much
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gonna mention anything, the

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youngster, the yeah,

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I'll be 51 in August. Wow, I
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what day in august, 20. Okay, we
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anybody who wants to get me a
gift. All right,

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so who do you, who do you share
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do you know? Usually everybody
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used to know

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kind of who they should

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look it up.

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A celebrity birthday with

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I know mine.

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the country, yeah, USA, baby,
USA. Yeah,

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America.

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Yeah, so was Tom Cruise, man.
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played a great version of you in
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great job. But also, I have what
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Abigail Van Buren and her twin
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other one, yeah,

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and Landon, Anland, yeah, and
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born on my birthday, yeah.

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I share it, I share a birthday
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Garfield, wow, yeah, and Demi
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same age I am, ah, well, and it
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Martin Scorsese, Danny DeVito,
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baseball idol as a kid was Tom
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prime mostly for the Mets, but
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the White Sox. But anyway, he's
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you get a baseball.

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actually was hired by mr. J to
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you know, I might as well be
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Championship of spelunking, it's
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baseball. Yeah, well,

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you actually did two games, I
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because we were in Chattanooga
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that I did. It's the T Double C
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softball tournament that we did.

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State.

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correct, that not to get into
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rearrange schedules, so we were
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baseball games on the same day.

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so I was short, a I was also
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responsible for hiring the
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so I was short one, you know, I
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games because the day, you know,
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overlapped, I'd like, you shoot,
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so, man, I reach out to my man
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Jim's good last minute. Jim's
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out how many different ways you
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That's right now batting. Now

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batting.

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I think I would suck at that.

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microphone, you can, you can do
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yep, yep. But no, man, Jim, I do
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got a, he's got a hit, oh, and
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professional play by play guys,
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but no. Again, Jim. Thank you,
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that. But, yeah, Johnny, you
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wouldn't ask you to do that.

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a lot quicker. You know,
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going to the games, but yeah,
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game that the final score was 22
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rule kind of an acting.

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rule, and the softball games are
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123, innings in softball. Yeah,
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man, flipping it underhand, they
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speaking of women to the table,
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those videos. I have not yet.
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but a lot of the videos came out
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in LA from, whatever, I can't
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to see if she could pull off the
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thunder is filled. Yeah, and you
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extreme grace. It's very smooth,
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like release a gasp of, like, a
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I had a house mind to throw the
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Mantis when he threw the coaster
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gonna, you know, text it to him
and be like, hey, yeah, just she

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but she's really put her own
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clone, no, she's gonna have her
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that we're talking about music
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you know, was a big pop band at
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2000 was when they were really
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things that the kids were
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couldn't, the pop stuff, it just
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they were pop punk.

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guys was their video of all the
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fun of the boy band craze, which
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and but they were so good. The
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he was a marching band guy.

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to find him, but I really did
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video biography of these guys,
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through. I wasn't aware the
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plane crash,

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really

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nearly burned up most of his
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named DJ DM, something like
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Yes,

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yeah, so yeah.. am

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I think that's it? That's what

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it was. Yeah,

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I'm so on hip.. I'm sorry, but
yeah.. and I didn't know the

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band went through all they did,
but I guess they're back out on

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the road now, and I'm glad to
see that, because I always did

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like that tune, because it had
such great drums in it, and when

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the kids were playing it, I
thought, now these guys are

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good, I like these guys. Yeah,
and I guess they're kind of a

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guilty pleasure. Do you guys
have any kind of pop bands like

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that that you found like a
guilty pleasure that you

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know that I didn't admit to
anybody. Yeah, Backstreet Boys,

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did you like the Backstreet
Boys?

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They were a good, solid group.
They got a great band behind

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them. Their songs were solid.
The beats, after a while, like

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the same, like drumbeat was kind
of patterned over and over

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again. Yeah, but yeah, I mean
good melodies, I mean, harmony

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and everything. I mean, they all
say that's yeah, I was a little

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bit of a closeted boy band fan
afar. So,

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see, I was more like I like the
girl groups. A lot of people

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didn't, but I did. I really did
like the Bengals. I thought

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these, these girls really, I
mean, they've got kind of an

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attitude about them, and their
songs are very well constructed,

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and I, you know, Susannah Hoffs
was a good singer, but I

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actually liked, I think, the
bass player and the drummer, I

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liked their vocals better than I
did hers, actually, because they

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do the song going, I'm going
down to Liverpool,

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right?

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Yeah, great song, great drums in

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it. I almost said that was Gina
Shock, but no, she was from the

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Go-Go's.

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Yeah, Gina Shock was the truth,
hottie. Yeah, I think Debbie,

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Debbie Peterson was the drummer
for the Bengals. Yeah, really

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pretty blonde. Yeah,

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we need more women drummers,

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yeah. We do, we do, we need more
women guitar players like that.

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Can actually play some women
guitar players. I don't know

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what it is, but they just don't
have the bite that some, you

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know, guy. And I hate to say
that, because I'm gonna get hate

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mail, but when you compare a guy
to a woman playing, there is one

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woman, she plays for a deep
purple tribute band called

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Perfect Strangers, and they're,
I want to say, they're from

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Sweden, but this girl is
phenomenal. I mean, she's just a

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god, she's got the feel. Old
band is actually really good.

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Well, you know, Anne Wilson,

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yeah,

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you know, I think she's kind of
underrated. I think she guitar,

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because, you know, I've seen
them,

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Nancy.

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Well, yes, Nancy, yeah, Anne's
the lead. That's what I was

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thinking. I'm like, is that
Anne? Yeah,

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no, no, yeah. Thank you. No,
Nancy's whom I meant, yeah. But

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you know, I've seen Hart a cup,
well, three or four times, and

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that lady can rip it up, yes,
you can, and Anne was

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a great vocal, in terms of,

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I still say she's her, and gosh,
the young woman from

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Evanescence,

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oh, Amy,

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yeah, her, and then the
hailstorm, the young, yes.

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Anyway, those three, but Anne
Wilson still, to this day, I

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say, the greatest female rock
vocalist of all time. Oh yeah,

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there's no comparison. Well,

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I tell you one lady that I think
outstood them all, and I'm

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talking rock, when she would do
rock, because she did several,

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you know, she did country, she
did all kinds of stuff. Linda

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Ronstadt, yeah, man, when she
was rock, man, you're

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right, what

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a voice she was. I mean, they're
belters, yes, that's

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yeah, but but then, and Wilson
was the same way as Ronstadt,

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though they could pull it back,
and I mean Blue by You by

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Ronstadt, not the sexiest
record. Oh, it was.

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Well, I watched her. I mean, I
saw her in concert in Nashville,

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and she did, and can't help it
if I'm still..

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yeah.

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Oh man.

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Well, I told you, I sat next to
her on a sofa in a recording

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studio for hours and didn't know
who it was.

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Yeah, I told you that. No, I

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don't think you did either.

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I was at a Lyle Lovett. I was
hanging out at a Lyle Lovett

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session.

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Yeah,

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and believe this was sound
stage, I'm pretty sure. And, but

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Lyle and Harry Stinson, and some
others, they were doing, they

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were laying down their backing
vocal tracks that night, and you

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know, the studios got the
couches and stuff in there

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behind the mixing board, you
know, and they got the lights

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down low, you can't really see
in there very well, and there

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was a lady sitting on the other
end of the couch, hanging in

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there,

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yeah,

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and I think she had a ball cap
on, but we, we were just kind of

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sitting there, and we just, you
know, just kind of idle chit

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chat, and anyway, after they
took a break, and Lyle came into

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the studio, and it was all, oh,
you know, love, and Luna, oh,

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how are you, and all that, sure,
and then you know, when the

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lights came up, and I got a good
look at her, and, and he starts

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addressing her, you know. Oh
gosh, Linda, so great to have

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you here. And then it dawned on
me who it was

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Linda Ronstadt.

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Oh my god, you know, yeah. I
mean, was there any 15 year old

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boy in the 70s who did not have
a crush on that woman?

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I had a crush, oh, big

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time. Here, I thought I thought
she was the sexiest thing alive.

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Oh, I did too. And I, when I,
because I saw her on the Mad

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Love tour,

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yeah. Oh, wow.

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And I saw her in Nashville, and
then I, because I was doing

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music during those days, and we
did a gig in Birmingham, and I

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saw that it was really wild,
because I saw that she was going

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to be in Birmingham, like a few
days later, and so was Ernest

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Tubb, and so I decided I wanted
to see both,

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one end of the spectrum or the
other, man, but man,

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at both shows, I mean, both
shows, she seemed a little high

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at the Birmingham show, yeah,
she was a little weird, I

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thought she seems kind of high.
She smoked some weed or

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something, I don't know. Things
are possible. Yeah, all things

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are blunt, but she was good.

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Yeah, I've always, always loved
her, and it's a shame, you know,

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she's dealt with Parkinson's,
and yeah, taking her voice away.

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Yeah, if you ever get

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a chance to see, I think you can
find it on Roku. That's gosh,

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within the sound of my voice at
something like that. Yeah, yeah,

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very good. Yes,

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I know of what you're speaking,
documentary,

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yeah,

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about, about, you know, her life
and what she's going through

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now, but yeah, I, I I, I, I
always loved, and to me she was

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one of those that could sing
anything, you know, like a

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Campbell in a Millsap, you know,
I mean, that all that Nelson

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Riddle stuff, the big band
stuff, she,

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that was great,

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that you know, her version of My
Funny Valentine is just like,

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you know, ethereal, man, yeah,
you know,

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once you could do Broadway,
she'd get Pirates of

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Pennsylvania, yeah, with Gary
Morris,

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yeah, yeah. Well, I think he was
part of that. Now he was,

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now she mentioned it,

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I think one was Rex Smith, and
then thought

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of that dude, I haven't

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either, I was trying not to, but
anyway,

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well, in a few days she will be
80 years old.

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Yeah, Linda Ronstadt, man,

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isn't that nuts? Well, you know,
Cher just turned 80.

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Wow,

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yeah, I know.

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Yeah,

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but still, you know, I like
Cher.

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I mean, she seemed like she's a
nice person. Yeah, I'm just kind

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of flaky, yeah.

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She's a, you know, left-wing
pinko coming nut, but sorry

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about Jay

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Fonda. Aside from that, you
know,

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and I don't know, I've never
been a Cher fan in terms of her

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music. Me, well, her vocal style
just has never done anything. I

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mean,

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I, I think you're not the audio.
It's that she's not hanging out

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at, you know, whatever bars,
calm down. She

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did bring Auto-Tune into focus,
and singing underwater, or what

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was happening there?

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So,

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no, see, I enjoyed her on the
old Sonny and Cher show. I mean,

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you know, that was a fun show.
Yeah, it was way back, way back

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when.

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Yes, it was.

402
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You know, and you know it was a
tragedy. What happened to Sonny?

403
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I mean,

404
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oh yeah, you know, way to go,
man. Skiing,

405
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skiing into a tree,

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yeah, that's how you go out,

407
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yeah, but no, I, you know, I, I
guess, and share what she won an

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Academy Award for, crying out
loud, Moonstruck, yeah, and she

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was

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a good actress,

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yeah, so you know, I don't, I
don't poo poo her talent across

412
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the spectrum, but anyway, I
just..

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well, I've never.. I've never..
I mean, when I watch a movie or

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I listen to a song, I don't sit
and think, 'Oh, I can't like

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this because they voted.

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Yeah, I know. I'm with you,
Johnny. I tried not to do that,

417
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but boy, it's getting harder and
harder with some of them. Well,

418
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it.. I. the only one I've had
that with a little bit has been,

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gosh, I can't, Robert De Niro,
De

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Niro, yeah, because I

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loved, I loved De Niro,

422
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:36,020
yeah, I mean, some of the roles
he has done have just been, you

423
00:21:36,050 --> 00:21:40,480
know, from Godfather Two to
Raging Bull, to, you know,

424
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yeah, no,

425
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denying his brilliance in, in
his talent, but, yeah, but you

426
00:21:46,360 --> 00:21:49,390
know, I feel that, you know,
Sean Penn, a fabulous act,

427
00:21:49,750 --> 00:21:50,710
oh, one of the greatest,

428
00:21:50,860 --> 00:21:53,650
but getting harder and harder
to,

429
00:21:54,370 --> 00:21:57,790
well, and Johnny Depp's another
one, I, he really turned me off

430
00:21:57,910 --> 00:22:02,280
when he, I think he won an award
or something, and he started

431
00:22:02,370 --> 00:22:08,220
talking about Trump, and he, I
mean, I'm surprised no one

432
00:22:08,610 --> 00:22:11,220
arrested him, because he was
basically talking about

433
00:22:11,610 --> 00:22:12,630
assassinating how

434
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,460
he wanted him to die. Well, he
said,

435
00:22:14,820 --> 00:22:19,140
he said, you know, an actor took
out a president, maybe that

436
00:22:19,380 --> 00:22:22,580
needs to happen again, or I
thought, God, that's an awful

437
00:22:22,700 --> 00:22:23,180
thing to say.

438
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:26,540
They're seeing if they can get
away with it.

439
00:22:26,570 --> 00:22:29,960
Well, yeah, and they don't care.
I mean, that's the whole thing,

440
00:22:30,650 --> 00:22:30,770
but

441
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they could become a martyr.

442
00:22:32,780 --> 00:22:36,650
Yeah, exactly. And, of course,
we've had the big good July 4

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concert that may have not
happened, may have done

444
00:22:42,729 --> 00:22:44,919
well. I mean, at this time, all
the people are talking about

445
00:22:44,949 --> 00:22:46,509
who's dropping out of it. Well,

446
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,900
everybody seems to, because last
that I've heard, and this

447
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:56,290
talking about the big 250th
celebration that Donald Trump

448
00:22:56,500 --> 00:23:01,500
was putting together, it seems
like everybody's dropped out of

449
00:23:01,620 --> 00:23:05,700
it, and he was naming off people
that were on it. I thought, boy,

450
00:23:05,850 --> 00:23:07,770
that's not a very strong line.
Yeah,

451
00:23:07,890 --> 00:23:10,320
it's not real stellar. No, yeah.
And

452
00:23:10,679 --> 00:23:14,879
he's basically saying, you know,
and I don't need, you know, I

453
00:23:14,999 --> 00:23:17,639
could do it myself. People would
still show up because everybody

454
00:23:17,759 --> 00:23:22,309
loves me. I'm, I'm like Elvis,
except I'm bigger, you know. I'm

455
00:23:22,399 --> 00:23:26,389
thinking, man, number one, don't
make it about yourself, make it

456
00:23:26,389 --> 00:23:30,199
about the country. It, you know,
if you want to do your ego

457
00:23:30,409 --> 00:23:34,339
thing, that's fine at times, but
not, not at something like this,

458
00:23:34,519 --> 00:23:40,329
a celebration of our country's
birthday and origin. And I think

459
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:41,439
that's what's hurting on this.

460
00:23:41,530 --> 00:23:46,450
Well, I know Martina McBride has
backed out. She claims, and this

461
00:23:46,510 --> 00:23:49,630
is her perspective, that it was
presented to her as what you

462
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,050
have described - birthday
celebration for America, but it

463
00:23:53,290 --> 00:23:57,760
became, in her eyes, anyway, a
partisan, essentially a Donald

464
00:23:57,820 --> 00:23:58,720
Trump pep rally,

465
00:23:58,990 --> 00:23:59,320
right?

466
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,160
And she just wasn't comfortable
doing that, and that's certainly

467
00:24:02,250 --> 00:24:02,790
her right.

468
00:24:03,120 --> 00:24:03,240
Sure,

469
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:09,870
I don't know, you know. Again, I
support much, not all, but much

470
00:24:09,990 --> 00:24:14,430
of Donald Trump's stance on
things, but you know, I don't

471
00:24:14,460 --> 00:24:17,400
know that I would want to be a
part of that either, even though

472
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,590
I do support a lot of what he,
you know, stands for and stuff

473
00:24:21,710 --> 00:24:26,690
with respect to the country. If
it were a politic being deemed

474
00:24:26,780 --> 00:24:30,860
as a political event, which
there been some other acts that

475
00:24:30,860 --> 00:24:35,930
have dropped out of this thing,
I guess the guy.. oh gosh,

476
00:24:36,830 --> 00:24:37,100
Brett,

477
00:24:39,710 --> 00:24:41,950
oh, a poison guy, yeah, yeah,

478
00:24:42,159 --> 00:24:44,769
yeah, he's backed out, you know,
he backed out of Roswell for

479
00:24:44,889 --> 00:24:48,669
pretty much the same reasons,
you know, even if I were a huge

480
00:24:48,909 --> 00:24:52,419
Trump Trump MAGA guy, I don't
know that I still would want to

481
00:24:52,419 --> 00:24:56,679
be a part of that, right, you
know, can't we do anything that

482
00:24:56,709 --> 00:25:01,349
is just non political when it
comes. Comes to patriotic, what

483
00:25:01,379 --> 00:25:06,659
are supposed to just be merely
patriotic, proud events for a

484
00:25:06,959 --> 00:25:10,679
celebration of our 250 years as
a nation.

485
00:25:10,950 --> 00:25:11,280
Right,

486
00:25:11,460 --> 00:25:14,850
can't we just do anything
without it being having a

487
00:25:14,910 --> 00:25:19,950
political slant to it? I realize
there are those that think, you

488
00:25:19,980 --> 00:25:24,800
know, there are those out there
that think patriotism is racist,

489
00:25:25,460 --> 00:25:29,840
and you know they have just
skewed being proud to be an

490
00:25:29,930 --> 00:25:30,590
American,

491
00:25:30,890 --> 00:25:31,190
yes,

492
00:25:32,060 --> 00:25:34,100
as something that it isn't.

493
00:25:34,310 --> 00:25:35,270
No, exactly, is

494
00:25:35,389 --> 00:25:37,819
trying to make it to least
something that it isn't to me,

495
00:25:38,420 --> 00:25:38,780
right?

496
00:25:39,470 --> 00:25:42,820
And I know a lot of other people
feel that way too, but can we

497
00:25:42,970 --> 00:25:46,870
have any type of celebration?
You know, I remember 1976 quite

498
00:25:46,930 --> 00:25:48,220
well. I was 15,

499
00:25:48,460 --> 00:25:48,550
sure,

500
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,020
when the bicentennial thing, but
I don't recall again, maybe it

501
00:25:53,020 --> 00:25:55,840
was.. I was a kid, but you were
a little older than me, so yeah,

502
00:25:55,930 --> 00:25:59,110
probably 1718, at the time, but
do you remember anything being

503
00:25:59,170 --> 00:26:00,190
political about. no,

504
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,320
no. and Jimmy Carter wasn't
well. Ford

505
00:26:04,439 --> 00:26:05,249
was still president, was

506
00:26:05,339 --> 00:26:08,249
Ford still. Well, then he's not
up there going on to make it all

507
00:26:08,279 --> 00:26:08,879
about me. Yeah,

508
00:26:09,210 --> 00:26:12,150
I mean, I can remember the bison
too. It was just this huge

509
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:16,110
celebration of America's, you
know, 200th birthday,

510
00:26:16,230 --> 00:26:18,810
which is what ought to be. And
that's what this seems like,

511
00:26:18,990 --> 00:26:23,960
this, this, and I don't know
whether we've just fallen, you

512
00:26:23,990 --> 00:26:26,390
know, we've become the, you
know, the prey of the mainstream

513
00:26:26,420 --> 00:26:30,020
media that has tried to skew
anything and everything about,

514
00:26:30,890 --> 00:26:35,000
you know, this 250th celebration
as being political, when maybe

515
00:26:35,540 --> 00:26:41,200
it isn't in certain, in certain
ways, man, I don't know, it,

516
00:26:41,740 --> 00:26:46,270
it's disappointing to where you
can't just, you know, celebrate

517
00:26:46,330 --> 00:26:51,160
it for the mere fact that we've
gotten to 250 years and shoot

518
00:26:51,250 --> 00:26:54,640
off some fireworks and be proud
to be an American. Exactly,

519
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:55,450
leave it at that.

520
00:26:55,570 --> 00:26:58,660
Row some hot dogs, drink a beer.
Yeah, be proud you're an

521
00:26:58,660 --> 00:26:58,990
American

522
00:26:59,229 --> 00:27:02,279
and be grateful to those, you
know, we just had Memorial Day,

523
00:27:02,429 --> 00:27:05,789
not all that long ago, and be
grateful for those that made it

524
00:27:05,789 --> 00:27:07,919
possible to celebrate 250 years,

525
00:27:08,550 --> 00:27:11,790
and exactly, you know, and I'm,
you know, one thing that I'm

526
00:27:11,910 --> 00:27:15,480
critical of Trump, and I was
also critical of Obama, of this,

527
00:27:16,170 --> 00:27:21,710
they make it all about them, you
know, I remember, like Ronald

528
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:26,240
Reagan, he never made it about
him, it was all about us, is

529
00:27:26,360 --> 00:27:30,110
what we can do. Same with John
F. Kennedy, man, that dude, it

530
00:27:30,140 --> 00:27:34,370
was all about us. It wasn't,
look what I'm doing, look what

531
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:35,480
I've done. I

532
00:27:35,540 --> 00:27:40,780
admit that has been, it hasn't
been a surprise with respect to

533
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:46,090
Donald Trump, to know that's who
he is. You kind of knew what you

534
00:27:46,090 --> 00:27:50,230
were getting, you know, with
that whole ego thing. Yeah, I'll

535
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:57,700
admit, I don't understand why
you would want to have

536
00:27:58,210 --> 00:28:01,650
everything, anything much of
what you're wanting to

537
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:06,660
accomplish for the country gets
is getting derailed by all of

538
00:28:06,750 --> 00:28:08,160
this other stuff.

539
00:28:08,670 --> 00:28:08,910
Yes,

540
00:28:09,060 --> 00:28:12,450
you know, naming the Kennedy
Center, sticking your name on

541
00:28:12,630 --> 00:28:17,190
the Kennedy Center, and some of
this other stuff.

542
00:28:17,550 --> 00:28:17,610
Yeah,

543
00:28:18,060 --> 00:28:20,460
it just derails what's
important,

544
00:28:20,699 --> 00:28:21,349
exactly.

545
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,390
You know, I don't know. Is
that..

546
00:28:23,989 --> 00:28:24,799
I think he's doing it a purpose.

547
00:28:25,130 --> 00:28:26,960
That's what I was gonna say. Is
that the

548
00:28:27,260 --> 00:28:27,770
strategy? Is

549
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,330
that his strategy? Yeah,

550
00:28:29,780 --> 00:28:30,200
I think it is.

551
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,180
You know, well, in

552
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:38,510
fact, you said in an earlier
podcast of ours that you thought

553
00:28:38,660 --> 00:28:42,880
that he's basically. he said,
okay, if you want to hate me, if

554
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,720
that's if I'll be the bad guy,
if that's what's going to put

555
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,210
you guys together to bring the
country together.

556
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,300
Nothing unites two opposing
sides and a common enemy,

557
00:28:52,810 --> 00:28:53,710
that's the truth. If

558
00:28:54,580 --> 00:28:56,560
that were, if he were to come
out and say, yeah, that was my

559
00:28:56,590 --> 00:28:58,180
strategy, I would not be a bit
surprised.

560
00:28:58,270 --> 00:29:02,280
Yeah, but we're talking about
the US Congress. Yes, I mean,

561
00:29:02,340 --> 00:29:04,230
can these Yahoos get anything
done?

562
00:29:04,379 --> 00:29:08,969
No. And in fact, do we want them
to get anything done? Well,

563
00:29:09,539 --> 00:29:10,799
there are certain things that,

564
00:29:11,130 --> 00:29:15,600
that I had hoped that, you know,
they would get done, but it's

565
00:29:15,780 --> 00:29:20,270
just in this quagmire that I
don't know, man. Sometimes I

566
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,950
think they just need to, you
know, scrap them up, just scrap

567
00:29:25,010 --> 00:29:28,130
them all, start over, man. Well,

568
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,360
I've gotten to a point where I
don't, I really don't care for

569
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,630
the Republicans anymore. I don't
care for the Democrats. Yeah,

570
00:29:35,870 --> 00:29:39,950
they're not working for us. It's
obvious. Look at the economy,

571
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,950
it's in the toilet. Everything
is too expensive. Working people

572
00:29:45,070 --> 00:29:47,410
are having, I mean, they're
struggling. They're having to

573
00:29:47,500 --> 00:29:51,340
work two, three jobs just to
make ends meet. They can't

574
00:29:51,370 --> 00:29:54,280
afford, you know, young people
can't afford homes anymore,

575
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:55,480
or to have children,

576
00:29:55,570 --> 00:29:58,870
or to have children. I mean,
we're basically screwed. They're

577
00:29:59,020 --> 00:30:01,890
screwing the country. Three, and
I'm tired of, yeah,

578
00:30:02,189 --> 00:30:02,789
but those who got to

579
00:30:02,849 --> 00:30:05,039
take it back five years, though.
I mean, the reason why we have

580
00:30:05,039 --> 00:30:07,019
everything so expensive is
because of all the money

581
00:30:07,139 --> 00:30:08,429
printing that happened during
Covid.

582
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,110
Exactly, that's what started

583
00:30:10,290 --> 00:30:10,800
it, right? Yeah,

584
00:30:11,189 --> 00:30:15,389
that's what started it. But I
was hoping that Trump, because I

585
00:30:15,689 --> 00:30:20,989
really wasn't for the, you know,
for the tariffs, because I

586
00:30:21,109 --> 00:30:23,809
thought, man, this is a bad time
to be doing tariffs, because

587
00:30:23,929 --> 00:30:27,529
we're already, we're already
having a tough time with the

588
00:30:27,679 --> 00:30:30,769
economy. It's just going to make
it that much longer and that

589
00:30:30,829 --> 00:30:36,349
much tougher, and the same thing
with, you know, with the Iran

590
00:30:37,069 --> 00:30:41,589
situation, it's made gasoline go
through the so everything he's

591
00:30:42,009 --> 00:30:46,059
done, I'm afraid it's going. If
the Democrats have a chance,

592
00:30:46,149 --> 00:30:49,539
they're going to win this time,
because people do vote with

593
00:30:49,659 --> 00:30:51,969
their billfolds with their
pocketbooks.

594
00:30:53,260 --> 00:30:56,350
But I mean, the thing is that
Democrats have not socially.. I

595
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:01,230
mean, there's a fatigue that's
palpable, you know, even with

596
00:31:01,350 --> 00:31:04,320
Springsteen and now the Black
Crows that decided to, you know,

597
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,040
call up Trump out from stage,
that this, they let them know

598
00:31:08,190 --> 00:31:11,760
real quick, like, "Shut up,
dude. Oh yeah, oh, they are, and

599
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:12,240
that, please,

600
00:31:12,390 --> 00:31:12,900
shut up. Well,

601
00:31:13,140 --> 00:31:16,170
and two, when you go to concert,
do you really want to talk

602
00:31:16,290 --> 00:31:19,200
politics? No, you're trying to
get away from all that stuff,

603
00:31:19,380 --> 00:31:20,670
you want to escape. Yeah,

604
00:31:20,940 --> 00:31:25,940
who was the jackass at fan keep
calling it fanfare? CMA Fest. Oh

605
00:31:26,090 --> 00:31:28,940
God, an artist nobody ever heard
of, but he brought Justin

606
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,660
Pierce. Justin Pierce brought
the state senator up on stage at

607
00:31:32,930 --> 00:31:37,580
CMA Fest. People from all over
the world literally come to just

608
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,570
enjoy some country music, or
music in general,

609
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:41,020
right,

610
00:31:41,140 --> 00:31:44,590
and he brings a Tennessee state
senator to come up on stage and

611
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,300
bitch about Trump and the
Republic

612
00:31:46,329 --> 00:31:49,689
because he wants that artist
wants to be hit, and I hate to

613
00:31:49,749 --> 00:31:52,779
inform him, but the country
audience, and this is what's

614
00:31:52,839 --> 00:31:54,369
happening to Music Rogers,

615
00:31:55,209 --> 00:31:55,929
was that who it was? Yeah,

616
00:31:56,259 --> 00:31:56,319
yeah,

617
00:31:56,679 --> 00:31:58,779
we'll see, that's what's
happening with Music Row, too,

618
00:31:58,959 --> 00:32:01,649
right now, and a lot of the
labels is that a lot of these

619
00:32:01,799 --> 00:32:04,979
kids that work at these labels
are left leaning,

620
00:32:05,219 --> 00:32:05,279
yeah,

621
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:10,710
and they don't understand their,
their audience doesn't think

622
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:11,070
like they

623
00:32:11,490 --> 00:32:14,010
do. Well, not even, even that
goes to the ACMs, the award

624
00:32:14,130 --> 00:32:16,920
shows, the CMAs, all that stuff.
You're not seeing these artists

625
00:32:16,950 --> 00:32:20,930
that you know, the Morgan Wallen
factor of him being utterly

626
00:32:21,020 --> 00:32:21,950
ignored. Oh,

627
00:32:22,130 --> 00:32:23,030
I know, and he's huge.

628
00:32:23,599 --> 00:32:26,689
It's like, dude, the guy is one
of the most popular country

629
00:32:26,779 --> 00:32:31,339
artists now, if not of all time,
doing what he's doing. Yeah,

630
00:32:31,579 --> 00:32:34,639
giving him any.. it's like
you're sounding, you're coming

631
00:32:34,759 --> 00:32:35,359
off tone deaf.

632
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:35,840
Yes,

633
00:32:36,379 --> 00:32:41,589
you know you're not doing
yourself a service by ignoring

634
00:32:41,679 --> 00:32:42,099
this, well,

635
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,610
when Beyonce wins Album of the
Year, I mean, that's that's the

636
00:32:45,700 --> 00:32:49,660
kind of nothing against Beyonce,
talented woman, oh yeah, record

637
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,890
in her own right, but you know,
Album of the Year, come on,

638
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:54,220
yeah,

639
00:32:54,579 --> 00:32:57,429
come on, that was absurd,

640
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:58,600
no, it was absurd,

641
00:32:58,689 --> 00:33:01,439
you know, so that's the kind of
mindset you're dealing with for

642
00:33:01,469 --> 00:33:02,339
these award shows.

643
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,100
Well, and look what happened
with, you know, try that in a

644
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,340
small town, they tried to kill
that record because it, you

645
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,570
know, they, they tried to say it
was racist, and the,

646
00:33:13,290 --> 00:33:16,500
you know, the record did great.
And then the video came out. Oh

647
00:33:16,650 --> 00:33:19,260
yeah, that's what turned it,
because you know we talked about

648
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,540
that on another podcast about,
you know, it's the courthouse in

649
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:28,790
Columbia, Tennessee, is close to
where Jason Aldean lives, and he

650
00:33:28,940 --> 00:33:32,000
had to get out of town quickly,
and you know, so that was

651
00:33:32,090 --> 00:33:36,110
convenient to just film the
video there, blah blah blah, but

652
00:33:36,620 --> 00:33:36,680
yeah,

653
00:33:37,730 --> 00:33:40,810
it, you literally said, Do you
think I, you honestly think I

654
00:33:40,900 --> 00:33:44,020
did my homework on that place
and picked it because of the

655
00:33:44,140 --> 00:33:46,060
reasons you're saying I picked
it. Are you really

656
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,110
well? And let's get real. I
mean, if you're in the South,

657
00:33:50,950 --> 00:33:51,010
yeah,

658
00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:51,610
any courthouse,

659
00:33:51,850 --> 00:33:54,940
any courthouse, any.. I mean,
there are so many locations.

660
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,060
Hell, you go into Franklin, it
is just the

661
00:33:58,059 --> 00:33:59,409
South, Johnny B. Well, that's

662
00:33:59,530 --> 00:34:01,230
true. Yeah, you know that's
right.

663
00:34:01,409 --> 00:34:04,799
You can go into Michigan and
Illinois and Ohio and find the

664
00:34:04,799 --> 00:34:05,669
same damn thing.

665
00:34:05,790 --> 00:34:06,870
Oh yeah, that's true.

666
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,610
I mean, it's with that
particular song, think it is.

667
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,400
They got like, what was the
recent thing they got noted for

668
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,890
was A Billion Streams or
something like, wow,

669
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,260
one of his bigger tunes. Yeah,
it was a great

670
00:34:19,380 --> 00:34:20,840
song. I mean, I loved it. The

671
00:34:20,930 --> 00:34:23,270
production on it just kicks
butt.

672
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:24,050
Oh, yeah,

673
00:34:24,710 --> 00:34:26,120
yeah. Those

674
00:34:26,180 --> 00:34:28,430
guys have enlightening in a
bottle when it comes to that,

675
00:34:28,490 --> 00:34:32,840
and, but I mean, they just got
presented, and this episode

676
00:34:32,870 --> 00:34:34,820
already came out because I
produced their podcast. They,

677
00:34:35,330 --> 00:34:40,630
they got presented Congressional
Records of, like, kind of that's

678
00:34:40,660 --> 00:34:43,120
what it's called, like a
congressional record plaque,

679
00:34:43,420 --> 00:34:47,560
yeah, for that song. Good song
hunters got it, so glad you know

680
00:34:47,980 --> 00:34:52,150
they deserve it, very well
deserved. But yeah, I just,

681
00:34:52,569 --> 00:34:55,149
again, it seems like, and I know
we've kind of gotten off on a

682
00:34:55,239 --> 00:35:00,449
tangent here, but it just seems
like in the, in the last. 1015

683
00:35:01,229 --> 00:35:07,169
years, entertainers,
entertainment has been so

684
00:35:07,439 --> 00:35:14,579
divided politically to where you
know you're you're faced with

685
00:35:14,639 --> 00:35:18,059
that stuff when you go to a
show. I mean, I, you know, Steve

686
00:35:18,269 --> 00:35:20,839
Earle, God love him. I mean, you
know, he, I consider him a

687
00:35:20,989 --> 00:35:22,669
friend, and I know you know, but

688
00:35:22,700 --> 00:35:24,170
I like his music, but he'll

689
00:35:24,290 --> 00:35:26,270
get up on stage at times and get
into that.

690
00:35:26,570 --> 00:35:27,110
Oh, I know, I'm

691
00:35:27,230 --> 00:35:30,290
just like, you know, Steve. Oh
man, oh man, we just want to

692
00:35:30,290 --> 00:35:30,830
hear you too.

693
00:35:31,250 --> 00:35:34,070
And I don't mind his protest
songs, I mean, he writes good

694
00:35:34,190 --> 00:35:38,360
songs, right? Right, but, and
that's fine, or it's like, you

695
00:35:38,390 --> 00:35:41,380
know, Dixie Chicks, or the
Chicks, I guess they're in call

696
00:35:41,500 --> 00:35:44,770
now. Natalie Mains has stepped
into it again. Yeah, well, boy,

697
00:35:44,950 --> 00:35:52,810
she looks like she's eating all
of it. Looks bad. Oh, she looks

698
00:35:52,870 --> 00:35:56,860
like what was the character in
The Little Mermaid?

699
00:36:01,870 --> 00:36:07,350
Oh my gosh. she'll start
singing,

700
00:36:07,500 --> 00:36:10,200
you poor unfortunate souls, but

701
00:36:10,860 --> 00:36:13,410
you know, I mean, let's face it,
that they can say what they

702
00:36:13,590 --> 00:36:15,090
want, but that killed their
career.

703
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,020
Oh, it did,

704
00:36:16,170 --> 00:36:18,450
you know, it was opted in its
tracks,

705
00:36:19,020 --> 00:36:23,360
and you know, and they blamed,
they blamed radio for it, and

706
00:36:23,390 --> 00:36:26,660
that's not the because I
remember, because you know, I

707
00:36:26,660 --> 00:36:29,960
was working on the Phil
Valentine show at that time, and

708
00:36:30,050 --> 00:36:35,870
we used Dixie Chicks music as
bumpers, and I remember when

709
00:36:35,930 --> 00:36:40,810
that happened. Well, number one,
I backed off, because I thought,

710
00:36:40,870 --> 00:36:45,070
man, this audience isn't going
to, no, and, and I was hearing

711
00:36:45,190 --> 00:36:48,730
it throughout the hallway, that
you know, the radio stations

712
00:36:49,300 --> 00:36:53,380
with Clear Channel and Cumulus,
they were getting, I mean, their

713
00:36:53,620 --> 00:36:54,520
phone banks were,

714
00:36:54,820 --> 00:36:55,720
they got heat, man, yeah,

715
00:36:55,930 --> 00:36:59,020
anytime they played a tune by
the Dixie Chicks, man, people

716
00:36:59,020 --> 00:37:00,690
went, went bliss,

717
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,950
yeah. Well, you know, I'm.. I do
stuff for Westwood One, their

718
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,100
country, their Nash icon format,
which is kind of a classic

719
00:37:08,130 --> 00:37:12,900
country format, and we still
play a lot of the Dixie Chicks,

720
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:13,140
yeah,

721
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,860
you know. So that stuff, you
know, it still still gets played

722
00:37:16,890 --> 00:37:17,580
quite a bit there.

723
00:37:17,940 --> 00:37:20,490
And what the hell's wrong with
calling yourself Dixie Chicks?

724
00:37:20,820 --> 00:37:23,030
Oh gosh, or Lady, or Lady
Antebellum,

725
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,200
yeah. Now it's Lady A,

726
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,250
yeah, because Antebellum. Oh, we
all know that's that's racist,

727
00:37:29,540 --> 00:37:31,940
race has a racist, racist baby.
Can we see the

728
00:37:33,410 --> 00:37:40,130
Jim Brewer, the comedian? Yes,
Brian Johnson, Hatfield, I mean,

729
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:45,190
but he did a bit on where his
daughter went to college, and

730
00:37:45,550 --> 00:37:48,580
you know, here we are, first
going off to college, and we're

731
00:37:49,300 --> 00:37:53,200
just so full of emotion and
pride, and sorry to see her go,

732
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,840
and you know, we're setting her
off with all these different

733
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,470
expectations, and how we raised
her, and literally a couple

734
00:37:59,530 --> 00:38:03,960
weeks later, she comes back, and
everything is racist, sexist,

735
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:09,720
sexist, racist, gender, gender,
gender, racist, sexist, gender.

736
00:38:11,130 --> 00:38:15,540
It's a whole pit that is utterly
hilarious, and it's like, and

737
00:38:15,570 --> 00:38:17,070
only he could pull it off, and
it's true,

738
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,410
indoctrination, man. Oh

739
00:38:21,740 --> 00:38:26,870
yeah, oh yeah. I remember when I
had an ex-wife that had

740
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,160
daughters, and one of her
daughters went to college in

741
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,210
Georgia, and I remember when she
came back, the way she was

742
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:40,040
talking, it was like, oh Lord,
do you know that, that that

743
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:45,460
college is it, you know, it's,
it's, it's basically for white

744
00:38:45,550 --> 00:38:49,480
people. There's no way black
people can get in there and are

745
00:38:49,690 --> 00:38:51,700
you talking about, please.

746
00:38:52,420 --> 00:38:56,590
Well, I, you know, my first year
at LSU was during the Iran

747
00:38:56,710 --> 00:38:57,610
hostage crisis.

748
00:38:57,850 --> 00:38:57,910
Wow,

749
00:38:58,389 --> 00:39:05,369
you know, 1979 yeah, and boy,
the there was no liberalism on

750
00:39:05,459 --> 00:39:08,399
that campus at that time. I'm
sure it's changed. Oh, it

751
00:39:08,430 --> 00:39:10,020
has. You know, I remember

752
00:39:10,110 --> 00:39:13,650
I had a political science
professor. He and I used to.. it

753
00:39:13,740 --> 00:39:19,440
was a good, civil, smart dialog
back and forth in class. I mean,

754
00:39:19,470 --> 00:39:23,750
he was your stereotypical left
wing, you know, left leaning

755
00:39:24,230 --> 00:39:24,470
right

756
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:25,460
college professor,

757
00:39:25,790 --> 00:39:26,120
right,

758
00:39:26,420 --> 00:39:29,540
but, but I really liked his
class, and I liked the way he

759
00:39:29,690 --> 00:39:30,380
taught, you know.

760
00:39:30,860 --> 00:39:34,310
Well, he was doing debate, which
is fine, but he would allow,

761
00:39:34,970 --> 00:39:38,420
you know, and I would even go to
his office after things, and he

762
00:39:38,570 --> 00:39:40,990
would tell me how he enjoyed
sparring with me.

763
00:39:41,530 --> 00:39:41,740
Oh, yeah.

764
00:39:41,980 --> 00:39:42,040
No,

765
00:39:42,460 --> 00:39:45,430
in fact, that's what I missed.
It's that's what was starting to

766
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,210
leave talk radio, because what I
loved about talk radio was the

767
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,200
debate, because that's how you
find answers, that's what, how

768
00:39:53,380 --> 00:39:54,490
you find solutions.

769
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,610
Well, you know, but you know,
let's be real, Johnny, I mean,

770
00:39:57,790 --> 00:40:01,050
even so much of the conservative
talk radio. Now is just an echo

771
00:40:01,230 --> 00:40:03,150
chamber. There's no debate on
that. No,

772
00:40:03,870 --> 00:40:07,710
and a lot of it is unlike you. I
mean, I like some of the things

773
00:40:07,770 --> 00:40:11,100
that Trump has done. I voted for
him, but I don't like everything

774
00:40:11,190 --> 00:40:14,670
he's done. No, and that's what
I'm hearing a lot on talk radio

775
00:40:14,790 --> 00:40:18,510
now, is that it's just like
they, they're worshiping the

776
00:40:18,630 --> 00:40:18,690
guy.

777
00:40:18,900 --> 00:40:22,400
Well, and if you don't, if you,
if you say anything that you

778
00:40:22,580 --> 00:40:27,530
don't necessarily agree with
about what Trump's doing or his

779
00:40:27,650 --> 00:40:31,100
position on stuff, then you just
get lambasted. Oh

780
00:40:31,250 --> 00:40:31,310
yeah,

781
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:33,590
you know, I mean, well, that

782
00:40:33,620 --> 00:40:39,680
happened to me at WTN before I
was let go. I was guest hosting

783
00:40:39,890 --> 00:40:44,020
one day, and I criticized him
for how much money he had spent

784
00:40:44,140 --> 00:40:47,980
during his first administration,
and I said, I hope he doesn't do

785
00:40:48,070 --> 00:40:53,140
that in his second
administration. And, man, I was

786
00:40:53,260 --> 00:40:56,890
told by the producer, he said,
man, they're saying they need to

787
00:40:56,950 --> 00:41:01,500
get you off the air. Sorry, I
call balls and strikes.

788
00:41:01,710 --> 00:41:07,950
Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, not
everybody. I think it's healthy

789
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:13,050
to offer these, you know,
differing opinions and such.

790
00:41:14,220 --> 00:41:17,460
And, but it seems like so many
people just don't want to hear

791
00:41:17,940 --> 00:41:18,030
it.

792
00:41:18,690 --> 00:41:21,950
They don't. They want to hear
what they believe. It's like you

793
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:26,090
say, they just want the echo
chamber. They want the, you

794
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:31,310
know, I don't know why I miss
debate. I love to hear differing

795
00:41:31,490 --> 00:41:35,930
views, different, you know,
differing issues, and people

796
00:41:36,020 --> 00:41:38,870
discussing it in a calm manner,
not a

797
00:41:40,460 --> 00:41:42,730
yeah, in a shouting match, where
they're

798
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:43,960
shouting over each other.

799
00:41:44,350 --> 00:41:48,640
Yeah, well, you know, I mean, I,
you know, we've talked about

800
00:41:48,700 --> 00:41:52,510
this before. I do fill in from
time to time on locally here in

801
00:41:52,540 --> 00:41:56,500
Nashville, on the conservative
talk station WTN, to fill in on

802
00:41:56,620 --> 00:42:03,180
news, and you know, I know we
talked about this before, but

803
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,180
you know, I could fill in for a
week, and at the end of that

804
00:42:06,300 --> 00:42:09,060
week I am exhausted. Oh, you

805
00:42:09,270 --> 00:42:09,330
are

806
00:42:10,170 --> 00:42:13,650
from just hearing all of that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

807
00:42:13,829 --> 00:42:14,279
Basically,

808
00:42:14,610 --> 00:42:17,760
you know, I mean, not that I
don't want to be enlightened and

809
00:42:17,850 --> 00:42:22,580
kind of know what's going on in
my, in my country, and in events

810
00:42:22,700 --> 00:42:28,130
and things, but gosh almighty,
if I had to, you know, and I,

811
00:42:28,250 --> 00:42:33,800
and I've done my own talk shows,
and, but you know, I talked

812
00:42:33,830 --> 00:42:36,200
about all kinds of things, yeah,
it would be conservative

813
00:42:36,350 --> 00:42:40,070
leaning, certainly with a lot of
stuff when it came to topics of

814
00:42:40,100 --> 00:42:41,560
the day, and that kind of thing,

815
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:42,010
right,

816
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,320
but you know, we talk about
other stuff, you know, and

817
00:42:44,620 --> 00:42:46,930
well, that's what I loved about
Phil's show, that's why Phil's

818
00:42:47,050 --> 00:42:51,070
show was so fun to me was that,
yeah, we talked politics, but we

819
00:42:51,190 --> 00:42:54,250
also talked about music, we
talked about all, you know, and

820
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:54,310
I

821
00:42:54,490 --> 00:42:59,320
think, you know, there, and darn
it, I think, and this is just my

822
00:42:59,470 --> 00:43:02,010
perspective, may be totally
wrong, you know, but when it

823
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:06,180
comes to WTN, for example,
because that's the one I'm most

824
00:43:06,180 --> 00:43:09,870
familiar with here currently. I
will say, gosh, you know better

825
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,410
than I. You were there forever,
you know. They want their red

826
00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:14,130
meat, man,

827
00:43:14,340 --> 00:43:14,580
they do.

828
00:43:15,240 --> 00:43:17,940
And if you start talking about,
you know,

829
00:43:18,450 --> 00:43:18,990
music,

830
00:43:19,290 --> 00:43:24,860
yeah, then, oh, you get the
vitriol. Now, is that a minority

831
00:43:25,550 --> 00:43:26,480
that, that

832
00:43:26,630 --> 00:43:27,800
I don't think it's a squeaky

833
00:43:27,950 --> 00:43:30,770
wheel syndrome to where the ones
that want to bitch are the ones

834
00:43:30,860 --> 00:43:32,810
that bitch the loudest and the
most often.

835
00:43:33,050 --> 00:43:38,000
I think I think it's just that
people that tune into talk radio

836
00:43:38,180 --> 00:43:43,000
now, the majority of them do
want red meat, they want, that's

837
00:43:43,060 --> 00:43:43,600
what, so you do

838
00:43:43,720 --> 00:43:45,340
think that's the majority. I
think it's

839
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,640
changed, yeah, because I think
in the, in the past that wasn't

840
00:43:48,670 --> 00:43:51,670
the case. I think because we
used to, when, when Phil and I

841
00:43:51,730 --> 00:43:55,300
would talk about other things, I
would get all kinds of comments,

842
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,600
oh man, we love when you guys
talk about music, or when you

843
00:43:58,660 --> 00:44:01,200
talk about your families,
whatever, you know, because I'm

844
00:44:01,260 --> 00:44:03,420
getting kind of burned out on
politics a little bit, yeah,

845
00:44:03,750 --> 00:44:05,670
yeah, but I don't hear that as
much anymore.

846
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:10,620
Well, I will say that of all of
the hosts, and again, not to

847
00:44:10,710 --> 00:44:13,800
just belabor the whole WTM
thing, but again, it's our

848
00:44:13,890 --> 00:44:19,800
reference point here, of all the
hosts, there, Chad Benson, who

849
00:44:19,950 --> 00:44:24,140
does noon to three central time,
he does talk about a bunch of

850
00:44:24,140 --> 00:44:24,860
different stuff.

851
00:44:25,130 --> 00:44:25,340
Yes,

852
00:44:25,850 --> 00:44:29,150
you know, he'll get into music.
He does whole segments, he does

853
00:44:29,270 --> 00:44:32,510
weekly features on one hit
wonders, and that kind of thing,

854
00:44:32,690 --> 00:44:32,960
right?

855
00:44:33,350 --> 00:44:36,440
And, and there are a lot of
people that will comment again,

856
00:44:36,530 --> 00:44:39,410
they've got a text line, and of
course, YouTube, and all that,

857
00:44:39,470 --> 00:44:42,250
where you can comment and
whatnot, and a lot of people

858
00:44:42,340 --> 00:44:46,240
enjoy that, but there are still
those that, boy, they come out

859
00:44:46,270 --> 00:44:49,120
and didn't tune in to hear this
stuff,

860
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:49,750
right?

861
00:44:49,870 --> 00:44:54,160
You know, I want to hear
politics, I want to hear news to

862
00:44:55,570 --> 00:45:03,210
me, so. I'm out as hell, and I'm
not gonna take it anymore,

863
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,890
exactly. But the.. but I don't
know, maybe Johnny, I mean,

864
00:45:07,980 --> 00:45:11,070
maybe you and I are just kind of
been

865
00:45:11,190 --> 00:45:12,120
in it so long. Yeah,

866
00:45:12,420 --> 00:45:17,070
you know, we're skewed in our..
in our mindset with that, in

867
00:45:17,220 --> 00:45:20,520
that there's so many places for
that stuff.

868
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,720
Sure. Oh, you've got.. well,
hell, God. gosh. Open up

869
00:45:23,900 --> 00:45:29,450
Facebook, my God. Everybody now
is a political pundit. It is. I

870
00:45:29,510 --> 00:45:30,860
mean, I'm getting worn out. Oh,

871
00:45:31,130 --> 00:45:31,310
I know.

872
00:45:31,790 --> 00:45:32,510
I'm sick of.. I

873
00:45:32,630 --> 00:45:36,230
know. So, and as I say, man, I
can feel, and I enjoy filling in

874
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,560
on news. Don't get me wrong, I
mean, I enjoy just being on air,

875
00:45:39,860 --> 00:45:41,410
you know, being on.. well, yeah,
that's

876
00:45:41,410 --> 00:45:42,790
the reason we got into it, yeah,

877
00:45:43,180 --> 00:45:46,060
but Amanda, again, at the end of
a week, after, like, you know,

878
00:45:46,390 --> 00:45:50,590
eight hours of, you know, Trump
is a god and everybody else is

879
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:57,550
an idiot, yes, like, God, I
just, it's just exhausting. So,

880
00:45:57,970 --> 00:46:00,180
should you give your email out
for all the hate mail to come to

881
00:46:00,210 --> 00:46:00,390
your way,

882
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:08,640
very easy to find us podcast at
Circling the Drain. On the next

883
00:46:08,700 --> 00:46:15,420
episode, we'll be reading some
viewers. I don't begrudge

884
00:46:15,570 --> 00:46:19,200
anybody for, you know, if that's
their thing, fine, but just for

885
00:46:19,230 --> 00:46:21,950
me personally. Oh my gosh. Well,

886
00:46:22,070 --> 00:46:25,130
see, that's why I didn't. I
mean, I enjoyed being on the

887
00:46:25,430 --> 00:46:29,780
air, but I hated filling in
sometimes, because by the end of

888
00:46:29,810 --> 00:46:30,350
the week,

889
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:30,620
yeah,

890
00:46:31,460 --> 00:46:33,920
I'd be going, God, I'm so sick,
it's

891
00:46:34,070 --> 00:46:36,110
just so mentally draining. Well,
and I'm

892
00:46:36,170 --> 00:46:40,330
not the kind of guy, because
hats off to people that do talk

893
00:46:40,450 --> 00:46:45,700
radio, like you know, Del
Giorno, Mandus, Murphy, yeah,

894
00:46:45,940 --> 00:46:50,320
those guys, they, I mean, they
eat, breathe, live that stuff 24

895
00:46:50,590 --> 00:46:52,300
hours a day. I cannot do that's

896
00:46:52,390 --> 00:46:52,780
just not me,

897
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,320
that's not me either. And to be
honest, Phil was kind of that

898
00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:01,830
way, he, he liked to turn off
and get away from it, and yeah,

899
00:47:02,070 --> 00:47:05,940
to be checked into that all the
time, so that you've got content

900
00:47:06,270 --> 00:47:10,260
for your show. Yeah, all that.
It just, it's just, well, it's

901
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,900
not a fun exist. You can't
unplug, man. Yeah, it's

902
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,710
not a funny.. I mean, I can tell
by listening to Chris Hand, he

903
00:47:17,010 --> 00:47:21,180
absolutely just. for him,
politics is entertainment.

904
00:47:21,510 --> 00:47:22,190
Yeah, he

905
00:47:22,820 --> 00:47:26,090
enjoys, he enjoys it, and so
that's why he's going to be

906
00:47:26,210 --> 00:47:29,510
successful. Oh, yeah, because he
does a great job, yeah. Oh, he

907
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,280
does a great, he does a great
show, yeah.

908
00:47:31,580 --> 00:47:34,820
And you know, he presents a
younger perspective, yes,

909
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:35,540
he does.

910
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,350
You know, I mean, he's well,
he's young enough to be my son,

911
00:47:39,380 --> 00:47:42,010
matter of fact, my son and he
and he are the same age. Oh,

912
00:47:42,220 --> 00:47:43,630
yeah, that's my son's age, you
know.

913
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:49,300
So, but he, he speaks to that,
that age group, and that's

914
00:47:50,020 --> 00:47:51,220
that's great. It is great,

915
00:47:51,310 --> 00:47:53,500
and that's what really the
station needed. I

916
00:47:53,650 --> 00:47:53,920
agree,

917
00:47:54,430 --> 00:47:56,620
because it, because we were
getting long in the tooth, there

918
00:47:56,620 --> 00:48:00,490
were a lot of people, myself
included, no white guy. Yeah,

919
00:48:00,610 --> 00:48:01,560
we've been there forever,

920
00:48:02,580 --> 00:48:04,800
but I did see the other side of
that, you know, when you, the

921
00:48:04,890 --> 00:48:07,380
people who are hearing that kind
of thing, my mother being one of

922
00:48:07,380 --> 00:48:10,470
them. So the last time I saw her
was in her apartment and went to

923
00:48:10,470 --> 00:48:14,400
go, went to go see her in
Orlando, and every time I was

924
00:48:14,490 --> 00:48:17,280
with her, tell me about the
kids, you know, my mom was from

925
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:21,350
the Bronx, and you know, well,
you know, Cami's doing this, and

926
00:48:21,500 --> 00:48:24,230
I'm a bum. I'm talking about the
kids and everything. Oh, isn't

927
00:48:24,230 --> 00:48:26,000
that nice? And all of a sudden,
just out of now, I'd be like,

928
00:48:26,450 --> 00:48:32,810
"Oh, God, look at this at all,
because she had Fox News playing

929
00:48:32,900 --> 00:48:36,530
in the background constantly.
Yeah, whenever Biden came on,

930
00:48:36,650 --> 00:48:42,010
she's like, "Oh, look at this. I
mean, it's constantly I'm like

931
00:48:42,490 --> 00:48:46,570
looking at her, going, why would
your

932
00:48:46,630 --> 00:48:49,330
grandchildren, I'm telling you
about them, why, why are you,

933
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:53,260
why are you getting distracted
by this, you know, anthole.

934
00:48:54,850 --> 00:48:57,400
Well, it's like I had the
similar experience with my

935
00:48:57,580 --> 00:49:06,780
wife's father. Oh gosh, number
one, he, he worships Trump, you

936
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:11,670
know, I mean, the guy can do no
wrong, and it was constant Fox

937
00:49:11,790 --> 00:49:15,540
News the entire time we were
there. Then you had to watch it

938
00:49:15,630 --> 00:49:19,410
with him after it was, you know,
after dinner. We're sitting

939
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,850
there. I told my wife, I said I
feel like I'm at work.

940
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,250
Yeah, what a great way to get
indigestion after dinner. Yeah,

941
00:49:29,510 --> 00:49:32,690
yeah, I want to sit and watch
Sean Hannity tonight. I honestly

942
00:49:32,839 --> 00:49:35,809
think Fox News kept my mother
alive. I bet

943
00:49:35,900 --> 00:49:36,320
you're right,

944
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,440
just, just from the blood
pressure raising and lowering.

945
00:49:39,740 --> 00:49:39,950
Oh, yeah,

946
00:49:40,580 --> 00:49:42,190
you know, just well,

947
00:49:42,370 --> 00:49:46,270
I will admit, if I ever get in a
mood to kind of, you know, check

948
00:49:46,540 --> 00:49:49,510
out a news channel, that's where
I'll go. Yeah, you know, I'll

949
00:49:49,630 --> 00:49:50,350
put.. I avoid it,

950
00:49:50,590 --> 00:49:56,020
you know. I don't watch, you
know, my wife and I, when it

951
00:49:56,020 --> 00:49:59,590
comes to television, and we've
been doing it a lot here lately,

952
00:49:59,890 --> 00:50:02,340
you. Know, we just, you know, we
stream all our TV,

953
00:50:02,550 --> 00:50:03,030
we do too,

954
00:50:03,570 --> 00:50:06,990
and you know, we've been just
burying through all of the

955
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,620
Turner Classic movie stuff on
the on their app. Oh yeah, you

956
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,550
know, just a lot of just
brilliant movies that you never

957
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,430
heard of, right? You know, I
really like a lot of the film

958
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,770
noir stuff, you know, the black
and whites with Robert Mitchum,

959
00:50:21,980 --> 00:50:28,970
and oh yeah, yeah. Hey, I talk
like this

960
00:50:29,660 --> 00:50:34,520
strikes with you, yeah. Okay,
all right, yeah, beat it. The

961
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,970
Dixiecombe, that's right, but
you know, watched The

962
00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:41,140
Big Sleep, the other Nito,
Humphrey Bogart, and Lauren

963
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:45,880
Bacall, who was just, oh gosh,
sexy, sexy man. How do you feel

964
00:50:45,970 --> 00:50:52,600
about her? Gosh, she was like 19
years old. Yes, pardon me, just

965
00:50:52,630 --> 00:51:02,430
a moment. Yes, I get to get the
camera off, but yeah, it was

966
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:06,210
just something about a lot of
those, those actresses back

967
00:51:06,660 --> 00:51:09,540
then. Well, back then they were
beautiful, and they, they

968
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,070
were glamorous. Yes, and my

969
00:51:11,250 --> 00:51:14,130
wife loves those movies because
she loves the dresses that they

970
00:51:14,250 --> 00:51:17,550
wore. Sure, you know, sure. And
you know, women were women, and

971
00:51:17,610 --> 00:51:20,930
guys released most of them, some
of them were, oh yeah, but they

972
00:51:20,990 --> 00:51:25,490
didn't know, yeah, but you know,
Marilyn Monroe, I still,

973
00:51:26,090 --> 00:51:26,150
yeah,

974
00:51:26,570 --> 00:51:29,360
she still just takes my breath
away, never really

975
00:51:29,450 --> 00:51:32,180
did anything for me in terms
because

976
00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:32,510
curvy,

977
00:51:32,870 --> 00:51:33,830
because I like

978
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:34,460
curvy, no,

979
00:51:34,730 --> 00:51:37,490
it's that, well, it was that
whole airhead thing that she

980
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:38,930
did, and I know that was just,

981
00:51:39,290 --> 00:51:40,190
oh, that was an ax, yes,

982
00:51:40,310 --> 00:51:44,710
of course, she was smart. Yeah,
but you know, but yeah, you

983
00:51:44,710 --> 00:51:50,020
know, the Gene Tierney, and
yeah, just there was just a

984
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,300
glamor about them that I just
really,

985
00:51:52,540 --> 00:51:53,380
and it's missing today,

986
00:51:53,590 --> 00:51:58,330
really enjoy, and again, the
screenwriting and the dialog,

987
00:51:58,420 --> 00:52:02,940
and some of that is so sharp, oh
yeah, so witty, yeah, that's

988
00:52:03,060 --> 00:52:05,970
lost, and now everything, you
know, let's have special effects

989
00:52:06,060 --> 00:52:06,960
and blow shit up,

990
00:52:07,170 --> 00:52:07,470
hell yeah,

991
00:52:07,890 --> 00:52:11,790
you know, I mean, the real
intense storylines and stuff,

992
00:52:12,540 --> 00:52:12,750
you got the

993
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:13,620
Marvel seems to

994
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:14,520
be missing, yeah, you do

995
00:52:14,610 --> 00:52:15,720
have the Marvel movie, Marvel,

996
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:17,220
they have good storylines,

997
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:21,500
yeah, I haven't seen any of
those in a while, and so you

998
00:52:21,530 --> 00:52:23,000
know they're good, but

999
00:52:23,870 --> 00:52:26,960
not as of late. They kind of
went off the rails after End

1000
00:52:27,020 --> 00:52:30,470
Game, a couple of movies. They
got a big one coming up. Oh, we

1001
00:52:30,530 --> 00:52:33,590
got the what's coming up is
probably what came coming up

1002
00:52:33,710 --> 00:52:38,000
now, but as of this airing, and
it's been out for a month, is

1003
00:52:38,090 --> 00:52:38,900
Disclosure Day

1004
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:40,930
Spielberg thing.

1005
00:52:41,710 --> 00:52:44,560
Yeah, I like to see that. I'd
like to say, I think we're going

1006
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:45,550
this weekend. Are you really

1007
00:52:46,570 --> 00:52:51,340
Spielberg, man? He, you know,
most of the time he hits a

1008
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,730
bullseye. Yeah, he does. You
know, not always. Rumor

1009
00:52:54,790 --> 00:52:58,240
has it this is the continuation
of Close Encounters of the Third

1010
00:52:58,360 --> 00:52:59,530
Guy. Really? Okay.

1011
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,120
And what a great time to come
out when everybody's disclosing

1012
00:53:03,210 --> 00:53:04,500
all this crap. Yeah, everybody's

1013
00:53:04,860 --> 00:53:05,730
into this stuff, that's

1014
00:53:05,910 --> 00:53:07,950
right. You know, that's great.
So, who..

1015
00:53:08,070 --> 00:53:10,920
I mean, I have seen that, you
know, out there and stuff, but

1016
00:53:11,220 --> 00:53:15,270
are there any big name stars in
that, or is it just a lot of

1017
00:53:15,270 --> 00:53:18,090
times Spielberg? He'll just,
he'll just put people in this

1018
00:53:18,210 --> 00:53:19,050
film. Oh, yeah, you know,

1019
00:53:19,380 --> 00:53:19,440
yeah,

1020
00:53:20,430 --> 00:53:22,220
that you know, there may be a
big star. Emily

1021
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:22,520
Blunt.

1022
00:53:23,540 --> 00:53:24,860
Oh, I like Emily Blunt. Yeah,

1023
00:53:24,980 --> 00:53:25,280
she's cool.

1024
00:53:25,490 --> 00:53:27,470
She is cool. Yeah, very good.

1025
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,740
She's got nice tracks of land.
Yes, she does. Yeah,

1026
00:53:31,580 --> 00:53:32,060
nice. What

1027
00:53:32,510 --> 00:53:37,040
trucks a land huge, not huge
trucksland? Oh, nice.

1028
00:53:37,490 --> 00:53:43,300
Oh, full. Okay. All right. Got a
French lesson here, I guess, not

1029
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:48,430
truck salon, tracks of land, and
we're Monty Python, and the Holy

1030
00:53:48,490 --> 00:53:52,960
Grail. She got huge truck salon.

1031
00:53:54,220 --> 00:53:58,930
Wow, what knockers? I was being

1032
00:53:59,050 --> 00:54:05,820
discreet. Well, well, we're
showing that well, we were still

1033
00:54:05,910 --> 00:54:09,330
men, we are still 14 year old

1034
00:54:09,420 --> 00:54:11,400
boy men, but whatever

1035
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,370
happened to Bridget Fonda? Man,
I always thought she was.. I

1036
00:54:14,430 --> 00:54:15,780
just actually saw, yeah, she's

1037
00:54:16,140 --> 00:54:19,710
out there with Natalie Mains,
was she's. yeah, she has

1038
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,990
changed, she's. she was
gorgeous, be cute

1039
00:54:24,020 --> 00:54:26,300
as a button. Oh, she was, and I

1040
00:54:26,510 --> 00:54:28,550
loved her on the screen. I mean,
man,

1041
00:54:28,790 --> 00:54:30,050
yeah, it can happen

1042
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:31,910
to you. Gosh, she was, boy, and
it has

1043
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,520
happened to her. Yeah, it did
happen to her. Yeah, and you

1044
00:54:34,550 --> 00:54:37,550
know, and again, I mean, not to
belittle the woman, in terms of,

1045
00:54:38,540 --> 00:54:42,040
you know, maybe she's, you know,
had a health issue or something.

1046
00:54:42,100 --> 00:54:42,280
Well, she

1047
00:54:42,460 --> 00:54:45,970
did have a horrible car
accident. Yeah, and that's when

1048
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,570
her, that's when she stopped,
you know, doing any films or

1049
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,560
anything. Yeah, and lived more
private lives, so maybe, you

1050
00:54:53,590 --> 00:54:55,930
know, pain. Yeah, who knows?
Yeah, who

1051
00:54:55,990 --> 00:55:00,180
knows. But I know I have seen
articles about her, so. Anything

1052
00:55:00,210 --> 00:55:05,370
that she just really didn't give
a rat's ass about Hollywood or

1053
00:55:05,460 --> 00:55:06,660
any of that, and I can

1054
00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:07,500
understand that,

1055
00:55:07,770 --> 00:55:10,590
you know, and I guess she
probably, you know, that last

1056
00:55:10,620 --> 00:55:11,190
name of hers,

1057
00:55:11,550 --> 00:55:11,610
yeah,

1058
00:55:11,910 --> 00:55:13,230
she grew up in that stuff,

1059
00:55:13,380 --> 00:55:14,010
yeah, she did,

1060
00:55:14,310 --> 00:55:16,920
and I can certainly see perhaps
just getting totally

1061
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:18,420
disenchanted with it all. Well,

1062
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,280
I tell you, if I had enough
money, I would probably go away.

1063
00:55:22,970 --> 00:55:24,770
I mean, you know, if I.. so, how

1064
00:55:24,830 --> 00:55:27,860
much you need, Johnny? I have
plenty. Whatever you

1065
00:55:27,890 --> 00:55:33,230
can hand me, you know, I'll stay
at the house. I even.. I made an

1066
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,740
appeal to all the liberal
listeners, you know. I said, if

1067
00:55:36,830 --> 00:55:39,680
you don't.. you don't.. Phil
would do the same thing. If you

1068
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:44,290
don't like us, he'll pay us, and
we'll stay home. I said, I won't

1069
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,840
even go to the grocery store.
I'll just stay up, I'll walk

1070
00:55:46,990 --> 00:55:49,000
around the yard. That's as much
as I'll just

1071
00:55:49,240 --> 00:55:51,820
Instacart. Yeah, and bring you
the groceries, yeah, bring me,

1072
00:55:52,060 --> 00:55:54,430
yeah, just bring me the
groceries. You'll never see me

1073
00:55:54,580 --> 00:55:55,510
again, or hear me,

1074
00:55:55,780 --> 00:55:59,320
Bridget Fonda. She's, she got
married to Danny Elfman.

1075
00:55:59,530 --> 00:56:00,160
Yes, she did.

1076
00:56:00,490 --> 00:56:05,190
One, one child, father is Peter
Fonda, and the paternal aunt was

1077
00:56:05,550 --> 00:56:08,910
Jane Fonda. Yes, she just kind
of got out of the business in

1078
00:56:09,180 --> 00:56:09,240
2002

1079
00:56:10,590 --> 00:56:12,120
Yeah, it's been a while. She's
just

1080
00:56:12,150 --> 00:56:13,500
been not doing anything,

1081
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,120
yeah, just being a mother. Yeah,

1082
00:56:15,510 --> 00:56:16,050
just got one kid,

1083
00:56:16,620 --> 00:56:20,720
and I understand she's really
enjoying just being a normal

1084
00:56:20,810 --> 00:56:21,140
person

1085
00:56:21,230 --> 00:56:21,770
being a regular,

1086
00:56:21,890 --> 00:56:23,090
hopefully she was smart about
her money.

1087
00:56:23,450 --> 00:56:28,340
I hope so. Well, I imagine she
was Danny hurting. Yeah, he

1088
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,040
ain't gonna be hurting for
anything. Boingo Boingo, yeah.

1089
00:56:31,700 --> 00:56:35,390
And also all the Batman movie,
all of the

1090
00:56:35,539 --> 00:56:38,059
screen, yeah. So,

1091
00:56:38,210 --> 00:56:39,080
yeah, they're doing okay.

1092
00:56:41,660 --> 00:56:44,560
She has, yeah, she's not
weathered very well. No, she is

1093
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,570
not. I think it's again because
of that car accident.

1094
00:56:46,870 --> 00:56:50,800
I think it is too. I think that
must, she must have had a lot of

1095
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,970
pain, and I know pain
medications can make you, you

1096
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,430
know, balloon out and gain
weight.

1097
00:56:58,870 --> 00:57:00,690
I mean, not bad. I mean, she's,
she's aged well.

1098
00:57:01,230 --> 00:57:05,580
Oh, yeah, she looks fine, but
she's gained a lot of weight,

1099
00:57:05,670 --> 00:57:05,730
though.

1100
00:57:06,270 --> 00:57:06,330
Yeah,

1101
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:08,010
but you know,

1102
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,550
but it could happen to the best.
Yeah, I have no room to talk.

1103
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:11,730
Does

1104
00:57:11,940 --> 00:57:17,670
happen, yeah. But you know,
again, growing up, you know,

1105
00:57:17,790 --> 00:57:22,040
with that that Fonda name, I
mean, are there any? I'm

1106
00:57:22,070 --> 00:57:24,650
wondering, are there any other
Fondas coming down the pike? And

1107
00:57:24,770 --> 00:57:28,190
not any that I'm fond of. Yeah,
I was waiting for that.

1108
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:31,490
He's here all night. Ladies and
gentlemen,

1109
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:32,240
try the beef.

1110
00:57:33,380 --> 00:57:39,770
Tip your waitresses. Oh gosh,
every

1111
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,280
time I hear that, what was that
from The Prices? Right, yeah.

1112
00:57:43,930 --> 00:57:46,930
Also, got this one. This one's a
good one. All right, that one's

1113
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:56,770
a good one. It's Kelsey Grammer
falling off of a stage, that one

1114
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,360
too. That was a good one, you
know. We had,

1115
00:57:58,510 --> 00:58:03,030
we had Trace Adkins on recently,
and I wanted to ask him about

1116
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:07,200
falling off the scaffold
scaffolding at his home.

1117
00:58:07,530 --> 00:58:08,160
Oh, really? Because,

1118
00:58:08,310 --> 00:58:09,720
yeah, he, I mean, he was

1119
00:58:10,410 --> 00:58:13,440
that dude, we should.. he seems
to be somewhat accident prone.

1120
00:58:14,070 --> 00:58:15,750
Yeah, he fell

1121
00:58:15,870 --> 00:58:16,860
like what, 1215,

1122
00:58:17,940 --> 00:58:18,300
man

1123
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,740
ended up in Vanderbilt, and he
was telling them, because they

1124
00:58:21,830 --> 00:58:27,860
were telling him what it would
be like to recover, and the

1125
00:58:28,070 --> 00:58:31,700
recovery would be easier if they
just took off his leg, and he

1126
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:35,060
said, "Well, just take it off,
and they were going, "Well, now

1127
00:58:35,270 --> 00:58:38,450
we can, you know. They were
talking, tried talking out of

1128
00:58:38,540 --> 00:58:41,230
it, and he said, "But boy, he
looked at it, you know. He said

1129
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:45,640
they've done so much great work,
because I know a lot of vets,

1130
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,570
and with what they've come up
with for people that do lose

1131
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,060
limbs, he said I can live with
that.

1132
00:58:53,170 --> 00:58:55,930
They said your voice will go up
about three octaves, you know,

1133
00:58:56,320 --> 00:59:06,630
and that's what changed, but Is

1134
00:59:11,010 --> 00:59:13,380
that when I, when I put the
headphones on for the first

1135
00:59:13,380 --> 00:59:15,960
time, when he sat down, it was
like he was like,

1136
00:59:16,980 --> 00:59:18,660
oh, I know the voice, it's in

1137
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:20,340
your ears, you know, you're up
there, it is,

1138
00:59:20,730 --> 00:59:21,110
yeah. Well,

1139
00:59:21,140 --> 00:59:24,200
and it makes you feel, because,
like, I said, you know, usually

1140
00:59:24,290 --> 00:59:27,710
I feel like a man, but when I
get around that dude, I feel

1141
00:59:27,770 --> 00:59:28,190
like a boy.

1142
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,880
Yeah, you can hear the
separation of the tones in his

1143
00:59:32,030 --> 00:59:33,710
voice. You know what I'm saying?
When you have somebody that has

1144
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,600
that deep of a voice, the timber

1145
00:59:35,750 --> 00:59:36,020
is there.

1146
00:59:36,170 --> 00:59:39,890
That timber, the separation is
what you're hearing. Yes, that

1147
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,270
is unreal for me? I mean, it's
like, dude, that guy.. what up?

1148
00:59:44,710 --> 00:59:45,550
Gosh, oh, I know.

1149
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,780
I wish I had his golden pins.
Yeah, I wish I had his voice.

1150
00:59:50,740 --> 00:59:55,630
You know, I still think it's a
crime that he's not any in any

1151
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:59,080
of these Taylor Sheridan,
because, man, he'd be perfect on

1152
00:59:59,170 --> 00:59:59,800
land, man.

1153
01:00:00,390 --> 01:00:00,810
You never know,

1154
01:00:00,990 --> 01:00:02,220
I mean, what a perfect

1155
01:00:03,210 --> 01:00:05,880
Taylor Sheridan does listen to
this show, so I mean, maybe

1156
01:00:05,910 --> 01:00:06,630
we'll give him an idea.

1157
01:00:07,020 --> 01:00:07,590
Oh, maybe. So,

1158
01:00:07,950 --> 01:00:08,010
yeah,

1159
01:00:08,730 --> 01:00:10,920
because I think I think you're
missing it, Taylor.

1160
01:00:11,220 --> 01:00:11,280
Yeah,

1161
01:00:11,610 --> 01:00:15,900
because Trace would be perfect
on that, or even Dutton Ranch.

1162
01:00:16,290 --> 01:00:18,270
Totally, he would totally fit on
that show.

1163
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,260
Maybe we'll get him in season
three when Taylor Sheridan's

1164
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:22,460
moved on to something else.
Yeah,

1165
01:00:22,730 --> 01:00:27,470
when he's starting another
project, yeah. Whatever happened

1166
01:00:27,470 --> 01:00:33,020
to Lioness? My wife and I loved
Lioness. It was a great series,

1167
01:00:33,050 --> 01:00:36,920
and they had two seasons. All of
a sudden, we've been waiting on

1168
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:38,600
season three for years now.

1169
01:00:39,020 --> 01:00:42,820
Yeah, isn't that the kid in
Charlie Brown with the blanket,

1170
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:54,160
Linus, is that what you're
talking about? Okay, yeah, I

1171
01:00:54,250 --> 01:00:56,110
guess I'm just not as hip as
you, Johnny B.

1172
01:00:56,740 --> 01:01:03,180
No, so that was

1173
01:01:03,210 --> 01:01:05,580
a good, that was a dad joke. I
liked it.

1174
01:01:12,780 --> 01:01:15,270
You got to be one of the
funniest, like

1175
01:01:15,329 --> 01:01:23,179
unintentionally. I mean, the way
I look, we're talking about I

1176
01:01:23,390 --> 01:01:27,290
thank God every day that we had
that lunch, because when we did

1177
01:01:27,410 --> 01:01:32,780
that, I thought, man, I love
being around this guy. Plus,

1178
01:01:33,590 --> 01:01:37,130
this dude's got all kinds of
stories, and he is funny as

1179
01:01:37,220 --> 01:01:40,960
hell. I thank God that he put us
together. Well,

1180
01:01:41,260 --> 01:01:43,330
that's kind of me to say,
Johnny. I feel the same way,

1181
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:48,280
man. And you know it. It's
always.. you know, I always look

1182
01:01:48,340 --> 01:01:49,810
forward to coming here. I do
too.

1183
01:01:50,380 --> 01:01:56,290
In fact, I came here early
today. Yeah, I was hanging out

1184
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:59,110
here, and finally they came in.
They said, well, we don't know

1185
01:01:59,140 --> 01:02:01,410
if Jim.. when Jim's coming back,
he said, 'Where's your other

1186
01:02:01,500 --> 01:02:07,110
partner? And I went, 'Oh, that's
right. Oh, yeah, we were

1187
01:02:07,170 --> 01:02:08,700
supposed to start later. My guy,

1188
01:02:08,940 --> 01:02:10,830
Jonah, texted me. He's like,
'Johnny B's here. And I'm like,

1189
01:02:10,950 --> 01:02:14,610
'Oh crap, did I misread my
account? Oh, you

1190
01:02:14,910 --> 01:02:16,140
know, you were fine. I goof,

1191
01:02:16,290 --> 01:02:18,420
but it was literally when I was
heart jumping into my throat.

1192
01:02:18,630 --> 01:02:19,740
I'm sorry, guy, it was

1193
01:02:19,830 --> 01:02:20,250
all me. Yeah,

1194
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:22,550
got here three hours early.
That's fine. I

1195
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,670
just left all my presents for
everybody here. Went home,

1196
01:02:25,970 --> 01:02:26,120
and

1197
01:02:26,330 --> 01:02:27,680
you could have stayed. I

1198
01:02:27,860 --> 01:02:30,680
could have. He told me I could,
and I thought, well, no, it's

1199
01:02:30,740 --> 01:02:31,400
all right. Take

1200
01:02:31,460 --> 01:02:32,120
a nap on the couch.

1201
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,440
I could have trust me. This
ain't John's

1202
01:02:36,530 --> 01:02:39,800
room wasn't being used at the
moment. Go nap in John's room,

1203
01:02:42,140 --> 01:02:44,680
and John, keep, keep healthy,
brother.

1204
01:02:44,890 --> 01:02:44,950
Yeah,

1205
01:02:45,970 --> 01:02:48,580
in fact, John and I were in the
hospital around the same time.

1206
01:02:48,670 --> 01:02:48,730
No,

1207
01:02:49,990 --> 01:02:53,740
I had that sissy heart thing
going on. I can't compare to

1208
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:54,730
what he went through. He had an

1209
01:02:54,790 --> 01:02:55,510
actual heart attack.

1210
01:02:55,660 --> 01:02:56,620
Yeah, he did. I didn't,

1211
01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:59,950
second in 11 years that he's had
that.

1212
01:03:00,070 --> 01:03:05,040
Wow, we gotta have John on
sometime, because bring him on,

1213
01:03:05,130 --> 01:03:07,500
because he's a.. I mean, I love
his personality.

1214
01:03:07,860 --> 01:03:11,310
He's actually.. his father was
very big in the music business

1215
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,650
around here, and in Muscle
Shoals. He used to build

1216
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:14,130
studios,

1217
01:03:14,580 --> 01:03:14,850
really.

1218
01:03:15,060 --> 01:03:16,650
Yeah, so we can have him on.

1219
01:03:16,980 --> 01:03:17,700
Yeah, definitely.

1220
01:03:18,090 --> 01:03:18,150
Yeah,

1221
01:03:18,420 --> 01:03:19,020
I would love to.

1222
01:03:19,650 --> 01:03:22,430
He's very inspired. He's got a
very good command of

1223
01:03:23,150 --> 01:03:30,440
philosophies and realistic
motivational techniques, you

1224
01:03:30,470 --> 01:03:30,530
know,

1225
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,200
but is he as good as us as us at
that,

1226
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:35,300
you know?

1227
01:03:35,750 --> 01:03:43,330
I think he's probably better.
No, no, let's not. We like to

1228
01:03:43,420 --> 01:03:48,730
keep our gig, but man, this has
been a lot of fun to do, and

1229
01:03:48,910 --> 01:03:52,330
I've enjoyed it. And you know,
today we kind of got into some

1230
01:03:52,450 --> 01:03:56,140
politics, but that's fine. I
mean, you know, we mostly like

1231
01:03:56,230 --> 01:03:59,200
to stay away from that, but this
time it's been too much in the

1232
01:03:59,920 --> 01:04:02,640
news and with entertainment as
well,

1233
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,420
so I believe if I'm counting
right, this will be episode

1234
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:08,310
number 46 I

1235
01:04:08,670 --> 01:04:11,010
want to say yes. So, wow,

1236
01:04:11,580 --> 01:04:13,290
Johnny, almost halfway to that
100

1237
01:04:13,830 --> 01:04:13,890
Yeah,

1238
01:04:14,220 --> 01:04:16,950
you know, we started in
September of 25

1239
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,610
so when we get 100 are we going
to drink, or.

1240
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:21,300
oh, wow,

1241
01:04:21,990 --> 01:04:24,350
that's your call, probably

1242
01:04:24,410 --> 01:04:27,620
not, probably not a good idea. I

1243
01:04:27,710 --> 01:04:33,320
drink after every one of them.
You drink a lot at that baseball

1244
01:04:33,410 --> 01:04:35,510
game when I was doing the
announcing. I was like, what's

1245
01:04:35,630 --> 01:04:36,230
the deal with that?

1246
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,510
Come on, I mean, it was, it was,
it was a little bitty bottle of

1247
01:04:40,570 --> 01:04:40,780
Jimmy,

1248
01:04:42,910 --> 01:04:45,730
every time, every time I shut
the mic off, you were taking a

1249
01:04:45,820 --> 01:04:48,250
swig. I was like, what am I
doing? It's that bad of a job.

1250
01:04:52,750 --> 01:04:56,470
After every episode, that's a
new milestone that I celebrate.

1251
01:04:58,750 --> 01:05:00,840
I got the whiskey right there.
So you drink

1252
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:07,290
afterward, I drink before. Now,
if we could drink

1253
01:05:07,470 --> 01:05:10,290
during, yeah, there we totally
can. I've

1254
01:05:10,350 --> 01:05:11,460
done podcasts where we had,
yeah,

1255
01:05:11,850 --> 01:05:12,030
that's

1256
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:12,990
nips of whiskey.

1257
01:05:13,470 --> 01:05:16,560
I don't drink anymore. Yeah, I'm
a boring best. We're not

1258
01:05:16,650 --> 01:05:21,950
doing that. Yep, you ain't much
fun since I kind of got that

1259
01:05:21,980 --> 01:05:22,760
when you took me to the,

1260
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:27,680
I enjoyed the Indy car thing we
went to, and I just, I don't

1261
01:05:27,740 --> 01:05:30,170
think you thought I was much
fun. Oh, come on, Johnny, would

1262
01:05:30,410 --> 01:05:30,620
you want

1263
01:05:30,620 --> 01:05:31,190
to do that again?

1264
01:05:31,790 --> 01:05:32,660
I might, yeah,

1265
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:37,400
yeah, I just may have to. You
guys make sure you go and tell

1266
01:05:37,460 --> 01:05:37,490
me

1267
01:05:37,579 --> 01:05:39,799
about it afterwards, like, yeah,
it happened the last time, yeah,

1268
01:05:40,849 --> 01:05:43,929
yeah, because I think maybe you
should take Jim this time. I

1269
01:05:44,019 --> 01:05:45,789
think my little friend, I think
her

1270
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:47,320
brother's going to be in the
race again. Is

1271
01:05:47,590 --> 01:05:47,980
he really?

1272
01:05:48,670 --> 01:05:49,780
Yeah, he was in the Indy 500

1273
01:05:50,650 --> 01:05:51,370
Oh, wow, yeah,

1274
01:05:51,610 --> 01:05:52,360
Jacob Abel,

1275
01:05:52,660 --> 01:05:53,200
good for him.

1276
01:05:53,620 --> 01:05:58,450
You met his sister, very nice.
Molly Abel, yeah, yeah, I think

1277
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:02,040
I think they'll be in this race
here in Nashville next month, or

1278
01:06:02,130 --> 01:06:04,440
actually this month, it's later
this month, because this is

1279
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:08,310
July. So, anyway, I'll just

1280
01:06:08,310 --> 01:06:10,380
never forget, you know, you
going up to

1281
01:06:11,250 --> 01:06:11,670
Alex below,

1282
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:16,890
yeah, to get a picture with him
out of my review, and a million

1283
01:06:16,980 --> 01:06:20,250
girls in real short shorts and
altar tops.

1284
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:27,620
Yes, yep, and maybe, maybe
that's what I'll wear if I don't

1285
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:31,940
know, you think Palo Alex Palo,
who's like the top of the world

1286
01:06:31,970 --> 01:06:32,720
in IndyCar racing,

1287
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:33,110
oh yeah,

1288
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:34,580
he

1289
01:06:35,300 --> 01:06:35,480
lotus,

1290
01:06:35,990 --> 01:06:39,020
you know, he might, might get
another picture with him,

1291
01:06:39,170 --> 01:06:42,970
yeah, I think I'm sure he would
just welcome you in short shorts

1292
01:06:43,810 --> 01:06:47,830
altar time. Yeah, that old hairy
belly, that's

1293
01:06:48,100 --> 01:06:50,950
right. Yeah, well, we sure
enjoyed having y'all in this big

1294
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:55,180
circle in the drain today, and
we'll have a lot of

1295
01:06:55,270 --> 01:06:57,160
interesting.. we got more
interesting guests coming. Yeah,

1296
01:06:57,310 --> 01:06:57,610
we do.

1297
01:06:57,910 --> 01:07:00,510
We got some other folks aligned.
We wish we could tell

1298
01:07:00,630 --> 01:07:02,460
you, but we're just not going to
it, yeah,

1299
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:06,630
yeah, but we do appreciate all
of the just, and we knew we

1300
01:07:06,660 --> 01:07:12,240
would all the great response to
the Trace Adkins trifecta that

1301
01:07:12,300 --> 01:07:14,700
we were excited to get out
there,

1302
01:07:14,910 --> 01:07:18,540
sure, and we got a lot of good
response from Sheila Shipley

1303
01:07:18,660 --> 01:07:18,840
Biddy,

1304
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:22,010
yeah, I mean, we should stop and
thank all the wonderful guests

1305
01:07:22,070 --> 01:07:26,300
we've had. Larry Stewart, Sheila
Shipley, Biddy, Larry Stewart,

1306
01:07:26,870 --> 01:07:28,130
Mickey Hayes, Chris

1307
01:07:28,340 --> 01:07:28,790
Golden,

1308
01:07:29,150 --> 01:07:33,740
Chris Golden. Great episode.
Yes, and we hope to get Gary

1309
01:07:33,890 --> 01:07:37,880
Gentry back on if he can find
the place. Did you ever get with

1310
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:41,650
him and get what happened? Did
he, did he, he

1311
01:07:41,740 --> 01:07:42,370
got lost,

1312
01:07:42,430 --> 01:07:44,590
did he? Yeah, and I gave him
directions,

1313
01:07:44,860 --> 01:07:47,530
you know, Trey, I gave Trace
directions, he found it, okay,

1314
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:51,370
yeah, and Mickey, who doesn't
live here anymore, yeah, you

1315
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:53,080
know, Mickey Hayes found it,
yeah, he came

1316
01:07:53,140 --> 01:07:57,610
right up to it, but Jim, do you
have that issue with other, you

1317
01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:59,980
know, there are other businesses
that happen out of this

1318
01:08:00,100 --> 01:08:03,870
facility, do other folks have a
problem finding this place? Why

1319
01:08:03,870 --> 01:08:07,290
is it that just the podcast
guests can't seem to find it?

1320
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:07,500
Yeah,

1321
01:08:07,950 --> 01:08:10,020
typically because I'm not clear
in my directions. You

1322
01:08:10,110 --> 01:08:10,380
think so?

1323
01:08:10,710 --> 01:08:13,620
And I will say, long driveway
connected off of the main road.

1324
01:08:13,770 --> 01:08:14,790
Yeah, I mean, I

1325
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:16,830
could always tell the people
that are like at, like, with

1326
01:08:16,890 --> 01:08:19,920
Trace, I saw his truck pull in
and stop at the foot of the

1327
01:08:20,010 --> 01:08:21,770
driveway. He could set, you
could tell the train of thought

1328
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:26,390
he was really this house on a
hill that looks like, you know,

1329
01:08:27,170 --> 01:08:29,510
looks like a out of a horror
movie,

1330
01:08:31,790 --> 01:08:34,490
but yeah, I mean, but I give it
directions to everybody, you

1331
01:08:34,490 --> 01:08:36,710
know, I give them the actual
physical address, give them

1332
01:08:36,740 --> 01:08:40,100
directions, you know, June Lake,
turn on the Buckners, second

1333
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:43,870
house on the left, long
driveway, flagpole, but usually

1334
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:47,950
I guess there's not a flag
flying for a while, but I don't

1335
01:08:47,980 --> 01:08:48,910
know why we need to get a

1336
01:08:48,970 --> 01:08:52,090
flag back up. Yeah, we do seems
to get the Jolly Roger,

1337
01:08:52,389 --> 01:08:55,269
yeah. Plus, you know, putting
signage up at some point would

1338
01:08:55,299 --> 01:08:59,109
be nice, you know. I'll put out
to put that up, but then

1339
01:08:59,110 --> 01:09:02,580
if you do that, then the fans
are going to just go nuts, you

1340
01:09:02,610 --> 01:09:03,780
know. Totally, I didn't

1341
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:04,650
think of that, Johnny B.

1342
01:09:05,010 --> 01:09:05,070
Yeah,

1343
01:09:05,730 --> 01:09:08,130
yeah, that's one thing about
this. I mean, we have the quiet

1344
01:09:08,250 --> 01:09:11,400
solitude here, but that would
all change. Oh, it would,

1345
01:09:11,490 --> 01:09:15,120
man, they'd be, they'd be
storming the palace,

1346
01:09:15,419 --> 01:09:17,729
yeah. And then, instead of
circling the drain, they'd be

1347
01:09:17,849 --> 01:09:19,079
storming the

1348
01:09:21,300 --> 01:09:24,710
overwhelming the dread, clogging
the dread,

1349
01:09:28,639 --> 01:09:30,019
yeah, those Conway Twinie fans.

1350
01:09:36,499 --> 01:09:39,439
What was renamed the Comod Cast
of that? Yeah, we're clogging

1351
01:09:39,709 --> 01:09:40,659
the drain, yeah.

1352
01:09:40,810 --> 01:09:44,110
Maybe we should, maybe that's
our new name, clogging the

1353
01:09:44,260 --> 01:09:44,740
drain. I

1354
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:48,130
wonder if we can get that
domain. The cool thing is, we

1355
01:09:48,220 --> 01:09:52,990
can have cloggers come in.
That's right, that'd be kind of

1356
01:09:53,020 --> 01:09:53,200
cool.

1357
01:09:53,289 --> 01:09:54,819
Yeah, the cloggers. But tell the

1358
01:09:54,850 --> 01:09:57,250
folks where they can check out
Circling the Drain. Jay,

1359
01:09:57,519 --> 01:09:58,179
no idea. You

1360
01:09:58,239 --> 01:09:59,259
don't know where it's at.

1361
01:09:59,619 --> 01:10:03,869
Oh God. Sure. Well, it's
everywhere. It is of the audio

1362
01:10:03,989 --> 01:10:08,789
platforms of the Apple Podcast,
iHeart. We're on TuneIn, I

1363
01:10:08,849 --> 01:10:11,009
think, right? We're on the
TuneIn. Sure, we are. I'm pretty

1364
01:10:11,069 --> 01:10:15,299
sure we are. Anyway, all of
those Spotify and such, and of

1365
01:10:15,329 --> 01:10:19,919
course, you can see our videos
on YouTube, as well as Facebook,

1366
01:10:20,879 --> 01:10:23,149
and of course, the website
circlingthedrain.net

1367
01:10:24,409 --> 01:10:25,879
and X, don't forget X,

1368
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:29,390
yeah, yeah, I, you know, but I
will admit, X acts funky

1369
01:10:29,540 --> 01:10:34,970
sometimes, won't let us get, you
know, I have found that at times

1370
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:40,460
when the videos are kind of long
they act a little goofy, so, but

1371
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,240
anyway, that's our desire, so
try to find us there as well.

1372
01:10:43,509 --> 01:10:47,379
Yeah, just find us again. Be
sure and join us next time on

1373
01:10:47,499 --> 01:10:48,309
Circling the Drain.