Unknown: Yeah, whatever happened to Lioness? My wife and I loved
Lioness. It was a great series, and they had two seasons. All of
a sudden, we've been waiting on season three for years now.
Yeah,
isn't that the kid in Charlie Brown with the blanket? Lioness,
is that what you're talking this lioness? of a mess, I guess I'm
just not as hip as you, Johnny D. Welcome to a podcast about
music and entertainment. Before it all goes down the disposal,
this is Circling the drain.
Hey, welcome back to Circling the Drain. Johnny B, Johnny
Bozeman, right here. My favorite person on this planet, one of my
favorite people, Jay Harper, right over there. How's your
game
time? Are we doing another one of these?
Yes, we are.
Oh, okay. Well, Heidi, all right. Thanks for waking me up.
Hey, Johnny B. Always good to have you, man. It's
always good to have you.
All right, and we all in you and I, we always love our the third
J of the trifecta.
That's right.
I was trying to figure out how I could hide under the desk, like
I won't be able to hit the camera button. Yeah, you need a
bigger desk.
Come on, we know we can kid each other here,
and we haven't been around each other in a while. Here it is,
July,
that's true, man. Gosh, you know that we're over halfway through
the year, is that not insane?
I know I just had a birthday, man, and I hate those things.
Now you care
to share how old you are, Johnny B. Are you
really
okay? Well, I didn't ask you how old you are, I asked you if you
wanted to share. I
guess I could. I mean, that's, you know, that's a personal,
but I could, I could, it's a
personal, no, I'm,
I'm 68 now. Okay, well, man,
congratulations, Johnny B. I think
I look pretty damn good. A
lot of folks would be happy to make it to 60. Oh, yeah,
trust me, I am.
Yeah, you're no
longer six seven, so I'm
old about, I'm about two and a half years behind you.
Are you?
Yep, not too, not too much behind you there. So I'm not
gonna mention anything, the
youngster, the yeah,
I'll be 51 in August. Wow, I know
what day in august, 20. Okay, we got to remember that
anybody who wants to get me a gift. All right,
so who do you, who do you share a birthday with? Celebrity wise,
do you know? Usually everybody knows. I
used to know
kind of who they should
look it up.
A celebrity birthday with
I know mine.
Yeah,
the country, yeah, USA, baby, USA. Yeah,
America.
Yeah, so was Tom Cruise, man. Tom
Cruise was one. He
played a great version of you in Born on the Fourth of July. He
did, didn't he? No, he did a
great job. But also, I have what was it, Dear Abby, I think
Abigail Van Buren and her twin sister, yeah, the
other one, yeah,
and Landon, Anland, yeah, and Landon's, they were both, both
born on my birthday, yeah.
I share it, I share a birthday with Spider-Man, Andrew
Garfield, wow, yeah, and Demi Lovato, Amy Adams, she's the
same age I am, ah, well, and it goes down from there.
Okay, well, I'm a november 17 baby, and let's see, there's
Martin Scorsese, Danny DeVito, and it was kind of cool. I
didn't discover this till a little later in life, but my
baseball idol as a kid was Tom Seaver, Hall of Fame pitcher,
prime mostly for the Mets, but he was also with the Reds and
the White Sox. But anyway, he's born on my birthday, so
you get a baseball.
Yeah, I
actually was hired by mr. J to announce a game, which is like,
you know, I might as well be announcing, you know, the World
Championship of spelunking, it's about as much as I know about
baseball. Yeah, well,
you actually did two games, I did, and did a terrific job.
That's the one you were, you were, you asked me about, right?
Yeah, I mean, I did, and I asked you, like, last year too,
because we were in Chattanooga for the tournament last, yeah,
that I did. It's the T Double C Double A Region Seven baseball
softball tournament that we did.
That's Columbia
State.
It's a mouthful to say,
yeah, it
is.
But no, man, I appreciate it, Jim. Man, I got in a bind. I
had, you know, somebody drop out on me, actually. That's not
correct, that not to get into all this, but it was a baseball
and a softball tournament, and they were separate. Softball
went first, then baseball, but because of weather they had to
rearrange schedules, so we were forced to play softball and
baseball games on the same day.
Oh man,
so I was short, a I was also responsible, aside from doing
the live stream on the Game Time Sports Network, we also were
responsible for hiring the public address announcers.
Oh, wow,
so I was short one, you know, I had somebody for all of the
games because the day, you know, the softball and baseball
overlapped, I'd like, you shoot, I need somebody else.
Yeah,
so, man, I reach out to my man Jim here, and gosh, doggy, save
the day.
Jim's good last minute. Jim's good, man. He's very tired, and
you figure
out how many different ways you could say coming to bat.
That's right now batting. Now
batting.
Yes, you're batter now at the plate.
I think I would suck at that.
No, you wouldn't, Johnny, really, no, man, I tell you, I
always say, if you can, if you're experienced on a
microphone, you can, you can do that stuff, you know, I mean,
yeah, you know, you kind of get in a little bit of a group. The
thing about PA is, for baseball, especially, is keeping up with
who's coming to bat,
right?
You know, who's next up,
right?
Then they throw a pitch hitter in there on you,
yeah,
you know, and you end up announcing the wrong name, which
happens, you know.
Well, I would definitely do that. I totally did that, yeah,
yep, yep. But no, man, Jim, I do appreciate that. He's
got a, he's got a hit, oh, and he's out, he's got a hat trick.
Oh, what a touchdown. Nice. Look at that.
Well, heck, you know, you hear a play by play guy, you know,
professional play by play guys, you know, screw that stuff up.
Where it's like it's going, it's going, it's a double. At one
point, I was
like, go
that's
not this game,
but no. Again, Jim. Thank you, man. Did it, did a great job on
that. But, yeah, Johnny, you could
tell it. I
wouldn't ask you to do that.
I could attest, it's not that hard. Yeah, okay. Maybe next
time.
Yeah, you just got to keep up, but you know, base softball goes
a lot quicker. You know, baseball can get a little, yeah.
That's why I've never been a big baseball. I mean, I don't mind
going to the games, but yeah, yeah, they can get really, yeah,
sometimes.
Yeah, sometimes it's sleepy.
Yeah, yeah, but usually those tournament games are usually
pretty good games, yeah. And you know, we did have one baseball
game that the final score was 22 to four, that was, yeah, it was
an
early call,
yeah, that was mercy
rule kind of an acting.
No, in baseball there, well, in baseball there is,
and there, and it was mercy rule, but they scored the 22
runs before they got to the inning where the mercy rule
applies, but softball, you've got, you know, eight run mercy
rule, and the softball games are only seven innings, so, and they
tend to be, quite frankly, those are usually one, two, a lot of
123, innings in softball. Yeah, you know, because the pitchers,
you know, throw 1000 miles an hour. Oh, yeah, those women,
man, flipping it underhand, they can get it up there, man. I bet
you know, and it's such a short distance between, you know, the
pitcher circle and home plate, and the ball's on you in a
heartbeat. So,
speaking of women to the table, rush barking on their tour. Oh,
that's
right. We've seen
those videos. I have not yet. Yeah, I mean we're recording
this on june 8, just for, you know, behind the scenes people.
Oh, so it's not July. Sure, it's true. Yeah, sure, absolutely,
absolutely. There's a J and a U in there. Yeah,
but a lot of the videos came out today with their debut concert
in LA from, whatever, I can't remember the name of the place,
but everybody was like holding their breath during Tom Sawyer
to see if she could pull off the big roundhouse fill, and the
thunder is filled. Yeah, and you know, she pulls it off with
extreme grace. It's very smooth, and you hear the audience almost
like release a gasp of, like, a sigh of relief, and they all
just like, yeah, it was so, so cool. So, if you haven't seen
that video, so
Dan Mandas should take back his throwing of the
I had a house mind to throw the should we do
that in
Mantis when he threw the coaster at me, yeah, yeah, I mean I was
gonna, you know, text it to him and be like, hey, yeah, just she
did a great job, man, yeah, I think he was upset because I.
Think she, I said she might show up Neil,
yeah,
but she's really put her own taste on it, her own style.
Well, yeah, and that's just natural. She's not going to be a
clone, no, she's gonna have her own style. It's very, you know,
that we're talking about music when I'm back when this band,
you know, was a big pop band at the, I guess, around what, 99
2000 was when they were really huge, but I've really gotten
back into Blink 182
really.
Yeah, I really did like those guys, because a lot of the
things that the kids were listening to, then I just
couldn't, the pop stuff, it just left me, you know,
they were pop punk.
Well, yeah, they were, and the thing that I liked about those
guys was their video of all the small things they were making
fun of the boy band craze, which they were actually kind of part
of in a way.
They were,
and but they were so good. The drummer was phenomenal. He's
like formally trained.
Oh yeah,
he was a marching band guy.
Yeah, he was. You talk about a great drummer. They were lucky
to find him, but I really did like the band, so I watched a
video biography of these guys, and man, the stuff they went
through. I wasn't aware the drummer had been in a very bad
plane crash,
really
nearly burned up most of his body, but it was him and a guy
named DJ DM, something like that.
Oh gosh, yeah, he was a big DJ in Vegas.
Yes, he died actually shortly after the plane crash, and he
was..
he actually had a movie appearance in Iron Man two.
Yes,
yeah, so yeah.. am
I think that's it? That's what
it was. Yeah,
I'm so on hip.. I'm sorry, but yeah.. and I didn't know the
band went through all they did, but I guess they're back out on
the road now, and I'm glad to see that, because I always did
like that tune, because it had such great drums in it, and when
the kids were playing it, I thought, now these guys are
good, I like these guys. Yeah, and I guess they're kind of a
guilty pleasure. Do you guys have any kind of pop bands like
that that you found like a guilty pleasure that you
know that I didn't admit to anybody. Yeah, Backstreet Boys,
did you like the Backstreet Boys?
They were a good, solid group. They got a great band behind
them. Their songs were solid. The beats, after a while, like
the same, like drumbeat was kind of patterned over and over
again. Yeah, but yeah, I mean good melodies, I mean, harmony
and everything. I mean, they all say that's yeah, I was a little
bit of a closeted boy band fan afar. So,
see, I was more like I like the girl groups. A lot of people
didn't, but I did. I really did like the Bengals. I thought
these, these girls really, I mean, they've got kind of an
attitude about them, and their songs are very well constructed,
and I, you know, Susannah Hoffs was a good singer, but I
actually liked, I think, the bass player and the drummer, I
liked their vocals better than I did hers, actually, because they
do the song going, I'm going down to Liverpool,
right?
Yeah, great song, great drums in
it. I almost said that was Gina Shock, but no, she was from the
Go-Go's.
Yeah, Gina Shock was the truth, hottie. Yeah, I think Debbie,
Debbie Peterson was the drummer for the Bengals. Yeah, really
pretty blonde. Yeah,
we need more women drummers,
yeah. We do, we do, we need more women guitar players like that.
Can actually play some women guitar players. I don't know
what it is, but they just don't have the bite that some, you
know, guy. And I hate to say that, because I'm gonna get hate
mail, but when you compare a guy to a woman playing, there is one
woman, she plays for a deep purple tribute band called
Perfect Strangers, and they're, I want to say, they're from
Sweden, but this girl is phenomenal. I mean, she's just a
god, she's got the feel. Old band is actually really good.
Well, you know, Anne Wilson,
yeah,
you know, I think she's kind of underrated. I think she guitar,
because, you know, I've seen them,
Nancy.
Well, yes, Nancy, yeah, Anne's the lead. That's what I was
thinking. I'm like, is that Anne? Yeah,
no, no, yeah. Thank you. No, Nancy's whom I meant, yeah. But
you know, I've seen Hart a cup, well, three or four times, and
that lady can rip it up, yes, you can, and Anne was
a great vocal, in terms of,
I still say she's her, and gosh, the young woman from
Evanescence,
oh, Amy,
yeah, her, and then the hailstorm, the young, yes.
Anyway, those three, but Anne Wilson still, to this day, I
say, the greatest female rock vocalist of all time. Oh yeah,
there's no comparison. Well,
I tell you one lady that I think outstood them all, and I'm
talking rock, when she would do rock, because she did several,
you know, she did country, she did all kinds of stuff. Linda
Ronstadt, yeah, man, when she was rock, man, you're
right, what
a voice she was. I mean, they're belters, yes, that's
yeah, but but then, and Wilson was the same way as Ronstadt,
though they could pull it back, and I mean Blue by You by
Ronstadt, not the sexiest record. Oh, it was.
Well, I watched her. I mean, I saw her in concert in Nashville,
and she did, and can't help it if I'm still..
yeah.
Oh man.
Well, I told you, I sat next to her on a sofa in a recording
studio for hours and didn't know who it was.
Yeah, I told you that. No, I
don't think you did either.
I was at a Lyle Lovett. I was hanging out at a Lyle Lovett
session.
Yeah,
and believe this was sound stage, I'm pretty sure. And, but
Lyle and Harry Stinson, and some others, they were doing, they
were laying down their backing vocal tracks that night, and you
know, the studios got the couches and stuff in there
behind the mixing board, you know, and they got the lights
down low, you can't really see in there very well, and there
was a lady sitting on the other end of the couch, hanging in
there,
yeah,
and I think she had a ball cap on, but we, we were just kind of
sitting there, and we just, you know, just kind of idle chit
chat, and anyway, after they took a break, and Lyle came into
the studio, and it was all, oh, you know, love, and Luna, oh,
how are you, and all that, sure, and then you know, when the
lights came up, and I got a good look at her, and, and he starts
addressing her, you know. Oh gosh, Linda, so great to have
you here. And then it dawned on me who it was
Linda Ronstadt.
Oh my god, you know, yeah. I mean, was there any 15 year old
boy in the 70s who did not have a crush on that woman?
I had a crush, oh, big
time. Here, I thought I thought she was the sexiest thing alive.
Oh, I did too. And I, when I, because I saw her on the Mad
Love tour,
yeah. Oh, wow.
And I saw her in Nashville, and then I, because I was doing
music during those days, and we did a gig in Birmingham, and I
saw that it was really wild, because I saw that she was going
to be in Birmingham, like a few days later, and so was Ernest
Tubb, and so I decided I wanted to see both,
one end of the spectrum or the other, man, but man,
at both shows, I mean, both shows, she seemed a little high
at the Birmingham show, yeah, she was a little weird, I
thought she seems kind of high. She smoked some weed or
something, I don't know. Things are possible. Yeah, all things
are blunt, but she was good.
Yeah, I've always, always loved her, and it's a shame, you know,
she's dealt with Parkinson's, and yeah, taking her voice away.
Yeah, if you ever get
a chance to see, I think you can find it on Roku. That's gosh,
within the sound of my voice at something like that. Yeah, yeah,
very good. Yes,
I know of what you're speaking, documentary,
yeah,
about, about, you know, her life and what she's going through
now, but yeah, I, I I, I, I always loved, and to me she was
one of those that could sing anything, you know, like a
Campbell in a Millsap, you know, I mean, that all that Nelson
Riddle stuff, the big band stuff, she,
that was great,
that you know, her version of My Funny Valentine is just like,
you know, ethereal, man, yeah, you know,
once you could do Broadway, she'd get Pirates of
Pennsylvania, yeah, with Gary Morris,
yeah, yeah. Well, I think he was part of that. Now he was,
now she mentioned it,
I think one was Rex Smith, and then thought
of that dude, I haven't
either, I was trying not to, but anyway,
well, in a few days she will be 80 years old.
Yeah, Linda Ronstadt, man,
isn't that nuts? Well, you know, Cher just turned 80.
Wow,
yeah, I know.
Yeah,
but still, you know, I like Cher.
I mean, she seemed like she's a nice person. Yeah, I'm just kind
of flaky, yeah.
She's a, you know, left-wing pinko coming nut, but sorry
about Jay
Fonda. Aside from that, you know,
and I don't know, I've never been a Cher fan in terms of her
music. Me, well, her vocal style just has never done anything. I
mean,
I, I think you're not the audio. It's that she's not hanging out
at, you know, whatever bars, calm down. She
did bring Auto-Tune into focus, and singing underwater, or what
was happening there?
So,
no, see, I enjoyed her on the old Sonny and Cher show. I mean,
you know, that was a fun show. Yeah, it was way back, way back
when.
Yes, it was.
You know, and you know it was a tragedy. What happened to Sonny?
I mean,
oh yeah, you know, way to go, man. Skiing,
skiing into a tree,
yeah, that's how you go out,
yeah, but no, I, you know, I, I guess, and share what she won an
Academy Award for, crying out loud, Moonstruck, yeah, and she
was
a good actress,
yeah, so you know, I don't, I don't poo poo her talent across
the spectrum, but anyway, I just..
well, I've never.. I've never.. I mean, when I watch a movie or
I listen to a song, I don't sit and think, 'Oh, I can't like
this because they voted.
Yeah, I know. I'm with you, Johnny. I tried not to do that,
but boy, it's getting harder and harder with some of them. Well,
it.. I. the only one I've had that with a little bit has been,
gosh, I can't, Robert De Niro, De
Niro, yeah, because I
loved, I loved De Niro,
yeah, I mean, some of the roles he has done have just been, you
know, from Godfather Two to Raging Bull, to, you know,
yeah, no,
denying his brilliance in, in his talent, but, yeah, but you
know, I feel that, you know, Sean Penn, a fabulous act,
oh, one of the greatest,
but getting harder and harder to,
well, and Johnny Depp's another one, I, he really turned me off
when he, I think he won an award or something, and he started
talking about Trump, and he, I mean, I'm surprised no one
arrested him, because he was basically talking about
assassinating how
he wanted him to die. Well, he said,
he said, you know, an actor took out a president, maybe that
needs to happen again, or I thought, God, that's an awful
thing to say.
They're seeing if they can get away with it.
Well, yeah, and they don't care. I mean, that's the whole thing,
but
they could become a martyr.
Yeah, exactly. And, of course, we've had the big good July 4
concert that may have not happened, may have done
well. I mean, at this time, all the people are talking about
who's dropping out of it. Well,
everybody seems to, because last that I've heard, and this
talking about the big 250th celebration that Donald Trump
was putting together, it seems like everybody's dropped out of
it, and he was naming off people that were on it. I thought, boy,
that's not a very strong line. Yeah,
it's not real stellar. No, yeah. And
he's basically saying, you know, and I don't need, you know, I
could do it myself. People would still show up because everybody
loves me. I'm, I'm like Elvis, except I'm bigger, you know. I'm
thinking, man, number one, don't make it about yourself, make it
about the country. It, you know, if you want to do your ego
thing, that's fine at times, but not, not at something like this,
a celebration of our country's birthday and origin. And I think
that's what's hurting on this.
Well, I know Martina McBride has backed out. She claims, and this
is her perspective, that it was presented to her as what you
have described - birthday celebration for America, but it
became, in her eyes, anyway, a partisan, essentially a Donald
Trump pep rally,
right?
And she just wasn't comfortable doing that, and that's certainly
her right.
Sure,
I don't know, you know. Again, I support much, not all, but much
of Donald Trump's stance on things, but you know, I don't
know that I would want to be a part of that either, even though
I do support a lot of what he, you know, stands for and stuff
with respect to the country. If it were a politic being deemed
as a political event, which there been some other acts that
have dropped out of this thing, I guess the guy.. oh gosh,
Brett,
oh, a poison guy, yeah, yeah,
yeah, he's backed out, you know, he backed out of Roswell for
pretty much the same reasons, you know, even if I were a huge
Trump Trump MAGA guy, I don't know that I still would want to
be a part of that, right, you know, can't we do anything that
is just non political when it comes. Comes to patriotic, what
are supposed to just be merely patriotic, proud events for a
celebration of our 250 years as a nation.
Right,
can't we just do anything without it being having a
political slant to it? I realize there are those that think, you
know, there are those out there that think patriotism is racist,
and you know they have just skewed being proud to be an
American,
yes,
as something that it isn't.
No, exactly, is
trying to make it to least something that it isn't to me,
right?
And I know a lot of other people feel that way too, but can we
have any type of celebration? You know, I remember 1976 quite
well. I was 15,
sure,
when the bicentennial thing, but I don't recall again, maybe it
was.. I was a kid, but you were a little older than me, so yeah,
probably 1718, at the time, but do you remember anything being
political about. no,
no. and Jimmy Carter wasn't well. Ford
was still president, was
Ford still. Well, then he's not up there going on to make it all
about me. Yeah,
I mean, I can remember the bison too. It was just this huge
celebration of America's, you know, 200th birthday,
which is what ought to be. And that's what this seems like,
this, this, and I don't know whether we've just fallen, you
know, we've become the, you know, the prey of the mainstream
media that has tried to skew anything and everything about,
you know, this 250th celebration as being political, when maybe
it isn't in certain, in certain ways, man, I don't know, it,
it's disappointing to where you can't just, you know, celebrate
it for the mere fact that we've gotten to 250 years and shoot
off some fireworks and be proud to be an American. Exactly,
leave it at that.
Row some hot dogs, drink a beer. Yeah, be proud you're an
American
and be grateful to those, you know, we just had Memorial Day,
not all that long ago, and be grateful for those that made it
possible to celebrate 250 years,
and exactly, you know, and I'm, you know, one thing that I'm
critical of Trump, and I was also critical of Obama, of this,
they make it all about them, you know, I remember, like Ronald
Reagan, he never made it about him, it was all about us, is
what we can do. Same with John F. Kennedy, man, that dude, it
was all about us. It wasn't, look what I'm doing, look what
I've done. I
admit that has been, it hasn't been a surprise with respect to
Donald Trump, to know that's who he is. You kind of knew what you
were getting, you know, with that whole ego thing. Yeah, I'll
admit, I don't understand why you would want to have
everything, anything much of what you're wanting to
accomplish for the country gets is getting derailed by all of
this other stuff.
Yes,
you know, naming the Kennedy Center, sticking your name on
the Kennedy Center, and some of this other stuff.
Yeah,
it just derails what's important,
exactly.
You know, I don't know. Is that..
I think he's doing it a purpose.
That's what I was gonna say. Is that the
strategy? Is
that his strategy? Yeah,
I think it is.
You know, well, in
fact, you said in an earlier podcast of ours that you thought
that he's basically. he said, okay, if you want to hate me, if
that's if I'll be the bad guy, if that's what's going to put
you guys together to bring the country together.
Nothing unites two opposing sides and a common enemy,
that's the truth. If
that were, if he were to come out and say, yeah, that was my
strategy, I would not be a bit surprised.
Yeah, but we're talking about the US Congress. Yes, I mean,
can these Yahoos get anything done?
No. And in fact, do we want them to get anything done? Well,
there are certain things that,
that I had hoped that, you know, they would get done, but it's
just in this quagmire that I don't know, man. Sometimes I
think they just need to, you know, scrap them up, just scrap
them all, start over, man. Well,
I've gotten to a point where I don't, I really don't care for
the Republicans anymore. I don't care for the Democrats. Yeah,
they're not working for us. It's obvious. Look at the economy,
it's in the toilet. Everything is too expensive. Working people
are having, I mean, they're struggling. They're having to
work two, three jobs just to make ends meet. They can't
afford, you know, young people can't afford homes anymore,
or to have children,
or to have children. I mean, we're basically screwed. They're
screwing the country. Three, and I'm tired of, yeah,
but those who got to
take it back five years, though. I mean, the reason why we have
everything so expensive is because of all the money
printing that happened during Covid.
Exactly, that's what started
it, right? Yeah,
that's what started it. But I was hoping that Trump, because I
really wasn't for the, you know, for the tariffs, because I
thought, man, this is a bad time to be doing tariffs, because
we're already, we're already having a tough time with the
economy. It's just going to make it that much longer and that
much tougher, and the same thing with, you know, with the Iran
situation, it's made gasoline go through the so everything he's
done, I'm afraid it's going. If the Democrats have a chance,
they're going to win this time, because people do vote with
their billfolds with their pocketbooks.
But I mean, the thing is that Democrats have not socially.. I
mean, there's a fatigue that's palpable, you know, even with
Springsteen and now the Black Crows that decided to, you know,
call up Trump out from stage, that this, they let them know
real quick, like, "Shut up, dude. Oh yeah, oh, they are, and
that, please,
shut up. Well,
and two, when you go to concert, do you really want to talk
politics? No, you're trying to get away from all that stuff,
you want to escape. Yeah,
who was the jackass at fan keep calling it fanfare? CMA Fest. Oh
God, an artist nobody ever heard of, but he brought Justin
Pierce. Justin Pierce brought the state senator up on stage at
CMA Fest. People from all over the world literally come to just
enjoy some country music, or music in general,
right,
and he brings a Tennessee state senator to come up on stage and
bitch about Trump and the Republic
because he wants that artist wants to be hit, and I hate to
inform him, but the country audience, and this is what's
happening to Music Rogers,
was that who it was? Yeah,
yeah,
we'll see, that's what's happening with Music Row, too,
right now, and a lot of the labels is that a lot of these
kids that work at these labels are left leaning,
yeah,
and they don't understand their, their audience doesn't think
like they
do. Well, not even, even that goes to the ACMs, the award
shows, the CMAs, all that stuff. You're not seeing these artists
that you know, the Morgan Wallen factor of him being utterly
ignored. Oh,
I know, and he's huge.
It's like, dude, the guy is one of the most popular country
artists now, if not of all time, doing what he's doing. Yeah,
giving him any.. it's like you're sounding, you're coming
off tone deaf.
Yes,
you know you're not doing yourself a service by ignoring
this, well,
when Beyonce wins Album of the Year, I mean, that's that's the
kind of nothing against Beyonce, talented woman, oh yeah, record
in her own right, but you know, Album of the Year, come on,
yeah,
come on, that was absurd,
no, it was absurd,
you know, so that's the kind of mindset you're dealing with for
these award shows.
Well, and look what happened with, you know, try that in a
small town, they tried to kill that record because it, you
know, they, they tried to say it was racist, and the,
you know, the record did great. And then the video came out. Oh
yeah, that's what turned it, because you know we talked about
that on another podcast about, you know, it's the courthouse in
Columbia, Tennessee, is close to where Jason Aldean lives, and he
had to get out of town quickly, and you know, so that was
convenient to just film the video there, blah blah blah, but
yeah,
it, you literally said, Do you think I, you honestly think I
did my homework on that place and picked it because of the
reasons you're saying I picked it. Are you really
well? And let's get real. I mean, if you're in the South,
yeah,
any courthouse,
any courthouse, any.. I mean, there are so many locations.
Hell, you go into Franklin, it is just the
South, Johnny B. Well, that's
true. Yeah, you know that's right.
You can go into Michigan and Illinois and Ohio and find the
same damn thing.
Oh yeah, that's true.
I mean, it's with that particular song, think it is.
They got like, what was the recent thing they got noted for
was A Billion Streams or something like, wow,
one of his bigger tunes. Yeah, it was a great
song. I mean, I loved it. The
production on it just kicks butt.
Oh, yeah,
yeah. Those
guys have enlightening in a bottle when it comes to that,
and, but I mean, they just got presented, and this episode
already came out because I produced their podcast. They,
they got presented Congressional Records of, like, kind of that's
what it's called, like a congressional record plaque,
yeah, for that song. Good song hunters got it, so glad you know
they deserve it, very well deserved. But yeah, I just,
again, it seems like, and I know we've kind of gotten off on a
tangent here, but it just seems like in the, in the last. 1015
years, entertainers, entertainment has been so
divided politically to where you know you're you're faced with
that stuff when you go to a show. I mean, I, you know, Steve
Earle, God love him. I mean, you know, he, I consider him a
friend, and I know you know, but
I like his music, but he'll
get up on stage at times and get into that.
Oh, I know, I'm
just like, you know, Steve. Oh man, oh man, we just want to
hear you too.
And I don't mind his protest songs, I mean, he writes good
songs, right? Right, but, and that's fine, or it's like, you
know, Dixie Chicks, or the Chicks, I guess they're in call
now. Natalie Mains has stepped into it again. Yeah, well, boy,
she looks like she's eating all of it. Looks bad. Oh, she looks
like what was the character in The Little Mermaid?
Oh my gosh. she'll start singing,
you poor unfortunate souls, but
you know, I mean, let's face it, that they can say what they
want, but that killed their career.
Oh, it did,
you know, it was opted in its tracks,
and you know, and they blamed, they blamed radio for it, and
that's not the because I remember, because you know, I
was working on the Phil Valentine show at that time, and
we used Dixie Chicks music as bumpers, and I remember when
that happened. Well, number one, I backed off, because I thought,
man, this audience isn't going to, no, and, and I was hearing
it throughout the hallway, that you know, the radio stations
with Clear Channel and Cumulus, they were getting, I mean, their
phone banks were,
they got heat, man, yeah,
anytime they played a tune by the Dixie Chicks, man, people
went, went bliss,
yeah. Well, you know, I'm.. I do stuff for Westwood One, their
country, their Nash icon format, which is kind of a classic
country format, and we still play a lot of the Dixie Chicks,
yeah,
you know. So that stuff, you know, it still still gets played
quite a bit there.
And what the hell's wrong with calling yourself Dixie Chicks?
Oh gosh, or Lady, or Lady Antebellum,
yeah. Now it's Lady A,
yeah, because Antebellum. Oh, we all know that's that's racist,
race has a racist, racist baby. Can we see the
Jim Brewer, the comedian? Yes, Brian Johnson, Hatfield, I mean,
but he did a bit on where his daughter went to college, and
you know, here we are, first going off to college, and we're
just so full of emotion and pride, and sorry to see her go,
and you know, we're setting her off with all these different
expectations, and how we raised her, and literally a couple
weeks later, she comes back, and everything is racist, sexist,
sexist, racist, gender, gender, gender, racist, sexist, gender.
It's a whole pit that is utterly hilarious, and it's like, and
only he could pull it off, and it's true,
indoctrination, man. Oh
yeah, oh yeah. I remember when I had an ex-wife that had
daughters, and one of her daughters went to college in
Georgia, and I remember when she came back, the way she was
talking, it was like, oh Lord, do you know that, that that
college is it, you know, it's, it's, it's basically for white
people. There's no way black people can get in there and are
you talking about, please.
Well, I, you know, my first year at LSU was during the Iran
hostage crisis.
Wow,
you know, 1979 yeah, and boy, the there was no liberalism on
that campus at that time. I'm sure it's changed. Oh, it
has. You know, I remember
I had a political science professor. He and I used to.. it
was a good, civil, smart dialog back and forth in class. I mean,
he was your stereotypical left wing, you know, left leaning
right
college professor,
right,
but, but I really liked his class, and I liked the way he
taught, you know.
Well, he was doing debate, which is fine, but he would allow,
you know, and I would even go to his office after things, and he
would tell me how he enjoyed sparring with me.
Oh, yeah.
No,
in fact, that's what I missed. It's that's what was starting to
leave talk radio, because what I loved about talk radio was the
debate, because that's how you find answers, that's what, how
you find solutions.
Well, you know, but you know, let's be real, Johnny, I mean,
even so much of the conservative talk radio. Now is just an echo
chamber. There's no debate on that. No,
and a lot of it is unlike you. I mean, I like some of the things
that Trump has done. I voted for him, but I don't like everything
he's done. No, and that's what I'm hearing a lot on talk radio
now, is that it's just like they, they're worshiping the
guy.
Well, and if you don't, if you, if you say anything that you
don't necessarily agree with about what Trump's doing or his
position on stuff, then you just get lambasted. Oh
yeah,
you know, I mean, well, that
happened to me at WTN before I was let go. I was guest hosting
one day, and I criticized him for how much money he had spent
during his first administration, and I said, I hope he doesn't do
that in his second administration. And, man, I was
told by the producer, he said, man, they're saying they need to
get you off the air. Sorry, I call balls and strikes.
Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, not everybody. I think it's healthy
to offer these, you know, differing opinions and such.
And, but it seems like so many people just don't want to hear
it.
They don't. They want to hear what they believe. It's like you
say, they just want the echo chamber. They want the, you
know, I don't know why I miss debate. I love to hear differing
views, different, you know, differing issues, and people
discussing it in a calm manner, not a
yeah, in a shouting match, where they're
shouting over each other.
Yeah, well, you know, I mean, I, you know, we've talked about
this before. I do fill in from time to time on locally here in
Nashville, on the conservative talk station WTN, to fill in on
news, and you know, I know we talked about this before, but
you know, I could fill in for a week, and at the end of that
week I am exhausted. Oh, you
are
from just hearing all of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Basically,
you know, I mean, not that I don't want to be enlightened and
kind of know what's going on in my, in my country, and in events
and things, but gosh almighty, if I had to, you know, and I,
and I've done my own talk shows, and, but you know, I talked
about all kinds of things, yeah, it would be conservative
leaning, certainly with a lot of stuff when it came to topics of
the day, and that kind of thing,
right,
but you know, we talk about other stuff, you know, and
well, that's what I loved about Phil's show, that's why Phil's
show was so fun to me was that, yeah, we talked politics, but we
also talked about music, we talked about all, you know, and
I
think, you know, there, and darn it, I think, and this is just my
perspective, may be totally wrong, you know, but when it
comes to WTN, for example, because that's the one I'm most
familiar with here currently. I will say, gosh, you know better
than I. You were there forever, you know. They want their red
meat, man,
they do.
And if you start talking about, you know,
music,
yeah, then, oh, you get the vitriol. Now, is that a minority
that, that
I don't think it's a squeaky
wheel syndrome to where the ones that want to bitch are the ones
that bitch the loudest and the most often.
I think I think it's just that people that tune into talk radio
now, the majority of them do want red meat, they want, that's
what, so you do
think that's the majority. I think it's
changed, yeah, because I think in the, in the past that wasn't
the case. I think because we used to, when, when Phil and I
would talk about other things, I would get all kinds of comments,
oh man, we love when you guys talk about music, or when you
talk about your families, whatever, you know, because I'm
getting kind of burned out on politics a little bit, yeah,
yeah, but I don't hear that as much anymore.
Well, I will say that of all of the hosts, and again, not to
just belabor the whole WTM thing, but again, it's our
reference point here, of all the hosts, there, Chad Benson, who
does noon to three central time, he does talk about a bunch of
different stuff.
Yes,
you know, he'll get into music. He does whole segments, he does
weekly features on one hit wonders, and that kind of thing,
right?
And, and there are a lot of people that will comment again,
they've got a text line, and of course, YouTube, and all that,
where you can comment and whatnot, and a lot of people
enjoy that, but there are still those that, boy, they come out
and didn't tune in to hear this stuff,
right?
You know, I want to hear politics, I want to hear news to
me, so. I'm out as hell, and I'm not gonna take it anymore,
exactly. But the.. but I don't know, maybe Johnny, I mean,
maybe you and I are just kind of been
in it so long. Yeah,
you know, we're skewed in our.. in our mindset with that, in
that there's so many places for that stuff.
Sure. Oh, you've got.. well, hell, God. gosh. Open up
Facebook, my God. Everybody now is a political pundit. It is. I
mean, I'm getting worn out. Oh,
I know.
I'm sick of.. I
know. So, and as I say, man, I can feel, and I enjoy filling in
on news. Don't get me wrong, I mean, I enjoy just being on air,
you know, being on.. well, yeah, that's
the reason we got into it, yeah,
but Amanda, again, at the end of a week, after, like, you know,
eight hours of, you know, Trump is a god and everybody else is
an idiot, yes, like, God, I just, it's just exhausting. So,
should you give your email out for all the hate mail to come to
your way,
very easy to find us podcast at Circling the Drain. On the next
episode, we'll be reading some viewers. I don't begrudge
anybody for, you know, if that's their thing, fine, but just for
me personally. Oh my gosh. Well,
see, that's why I didn't. I mean, I enjoyed being on the
air, but I hated filling in sometimes, because by the end of
the week,
yeah,
I'd be going, God, I'm so sick, it's
just so mentally draining. Well, and I'm
not the kind of guy, because hats off to people that do talk
radio, like you know, Del Giorno, Mandus, Murphy, yeah,
those guys, they, I mean, they eat, breathe, live that stuff 24
hours a day. I cannot do that's
just not me,
that's not me either. And to be honest, Phil was kind of that
way, he, he liked to turn off and get away from it, and yeah,
to be checked into that all the time, so that you've got content
for your show. Yeah, all that. It just, it's just, well, it's
not a fun exist. You can't unplug, man. Yeah, it's
not a funny.. I mean, I can tell by listening to Chris Hand, he
absolutely just. for him, politics is entertainment.
Yeah, he
enjoys, he enjoys it, and so that's why he's going to be
successful. Oh, yeah, because he does a great job, yeah. Oh, he
does a great, he does a great show, yeah.
And you know, he presents a younger perspective, yes,
he does.
You know, I mean, he's well, he's young enough to be my son,
matter of fact, my son and he and he are the same age. Oh,
yeah, that's my son's age, you know.
So, but he, he speaks to that, that age group, and that's
that's great. It is great,
and that's what really the station needed. I
agree,
because it, because we were getting long in the tooth, there
were a lot of people, myself included, no white guy. Yeah,
we've been there forever,
but I did see the other side of that, you know, when you, the
people who are hearing that kind of thing, my mother being one of
them. So the last time I saw her was in her apartment and went to
go, went to go see her in Orlando, and every time I was
with her, tell me about the kids, you know, my mom was from
the Bronx, and you know, well, you know, Cami's doing this, and
I'm a bum. I'm talking about the kids and everything. Oh, isn't
that nice? And all of a sudden, just out of now, I'd be like,
"Oh, God, look at this at all, because she had Fox News playing
in the background constantly. Yeah, whenever Biden came on,
she's like, "Oh, look at this. I mean, it's constantly I'm like
looking at her, going, why would your
grandchildren, I'm telling you about them, why, why are you,
why are you getting distracted by this, you know, anthole.
Well, it's like I had the similar experience with my
wife's father. Oh gosh, number one, he, he worships Trump, you
know, I mean, the guy can do no wrong, and it was constant Fox
News the entire time we were there. Then you had to watch it
with him after it was, you know, after dinner. We're sitting
there. I told my wife, I said I feel like I'm at work.
Yeah, what a great way to get indigestion after dinner. Yeah,
yeah, I want to sit and watch Sean Hannity tonight. I honestly
think Fox News kept my mother alive. I bet
you're right,
just, just from the blood pressure raising and lowering.
Oh, yeah,
you know, just well,
I will admit, if I ever get in a mood to kind of, you know, check
out a news channel, that's where I'll go. Yeah, you know, I'll
put.. I avoid it,
you know. I don't watch, you know, my wife and I, when it
comes to television, and we've been doing it a lot here lately,
you. Know, we just, you know, we stream all our TV,
we do too,
and you know, we've been just burying through all of the
Turner Classic movie stuff on the on their app. Oh yeah, you
know, just a lot of just brilliant movies that you never
heard of, right? You know, I really like a lot of the film
noir stuff, you know, the black and whites with Robert Mitchum,
and oh yeah, yeah. Hey, I talk like this
strikes with you, yeah. Okay, all right, yeah, beat it. The
Dixiecombe, that's right, but you know, watched The
Big Sleep, the other Nito, Humphrey Bogart, and Lauren
Bacall, who was just, oh gosh, sexy, sexy man. How do you feel
about her? Gosh, she was like 19 years old. Yes, pardon me, just
a moment. Yes, I get to get the camera off, but yeah, it was
just something about a lot of those, those actresses back
then. Well, back then they were beautiful, and they, they
were glamorous. Yes, and my
wife loves those movies because she loves the dresses that they
wore. Sure, you know, sure. And you know, women were women, and
guys released most of them, some of them were, oh yeah, but they
didn't know, yeah, but you know, Marilyn Monroe, I still,
yeah,
she still just takes my breath away, never really
did anything for me in terms because
curvy,
because I like
curvy, no,
it's that, well, it was that whole airhead thing that she
did, and I know that was just,
oh, that was an ax, yes,
of course, she was smart. Yeah, but you know, but yeah, you
know, the Gene Tierney, and yeah, just there was just a
glamor about them that I just really,
and it's missing today,
really enjoy, and again, the screenwriting and the dialog,
and some of that is so sharp, oh yeah, so witty, yeah, that's
lost, and now everything, you know, let's have special effects
and blow shit up,
hell yeah,
you know, I mean, the real intense storylines and stuff,
you got the
Marvel seems to
be missing, yeah, you do
have the Marvel movie, Marvel,
they have good storylines,
yeah, I haven't seen any of those in a while, and so you
know they're good, but
not as of late. They kind of went off the rails after End
Game, a couple of movies. They got a big one coming up. Oh, we
got the what's coming up is probably what came coming up
now, but as of this airing, and it's been out for a month, is
Disclosure Day
Spielberg thing.
Yeah, I like to see that. I'd like to say, I think we're going
this weekend. Are you really
Spielberg, man? He, you know, most of the time he hits a
bullseye. Yeah, he does. You know, not always. Rumor
has it this is the continuation of Close Encounters of the Third
Guy. Really? Okay.
And what a great time to come out when everybody's disclosing
all this crap. Yeah, everybody's
into this stuff, that's
right. You know, that's great. So, who..
I mean, I have seen that, you know, out there and stuff, but
are there any big name stars in that, or is it just a lot of
times Spielberg? He'll just, he'll just put people in this
film. Oh, yeah, you know,
yeah,
that you know, there may be a big star. Emily
Blunt.
Oh, I like Emily Blunt. Yeah,
she's cool.
She is cool. Yeah, very good.
She's got nice tracks of land. Yes, she does. Yeah,
nice. What
trucks a land huge, not huge trucksland? Oh, nice.
Oh, full. Okay. All right. Got a French lesson here, I guess, not
truck salon, tracks of land, and we're Monty Python, and the Holy
Grail. She got huge truck salon.
Wow, what knockers? I was being
discreet. Well, well, we're showing that well, we were still
men, we are still 14 year old
boy men, but whatever
happened to Bridget Fonda? Man, I always thought she was.. I
just actually saw, yeah, she's
out there with Natalie Mains, was she's. yeah, she has
changed, she's. she was gorgeous, be cute
as a button. Oh, she was, and I
loved her on the screen. I mean, man,
yeah, it can happen
to you. Gosh, she was, boy, and it has
happened to her. Yeah, it did happen to her. Yeah, and you
know, and again, I mean, not to belittle the woman, in terms of,
you know, maybe she's, you know, had a health issue or something.
Well, she
did have a horrible car accident. Yeah, and that's when
her, that's when she stopped, you know, doing any films or
anything. Yeah, and lived more private lives, so maybe, you
know, pain. Yeah, who knows? Yeah, who
knows. But I know I have seen articles about her, so. Anything
that she just really didn't give a rat's ass about Hollywood or
any of that, and I can
understand that,
you know, and I guess she probably, you know, that last
name of hers,
yeah,
she grew up in that stuff,
yeah, she did,
and I can certainly see perhaps just getting totally
disenchanted with it all. Well,
I tell you, if I had enough money, I would probably go away.
I mean, you know, if I.. so, how
much you need, Johnny? I have plenty. Whatever you
can hand me, you know, I'll stay at the house. I even.. I made an
appeal to all the liberal listeners, you know. I said, if
you don't.. you don't.. Phil would do the same thing. If you
don't like us, he'll pay us, and we'll stay home. I said, I won't
even go to the grocery store. I'll just stay up, I'll walk
around the yard. That's as much as I'll just
Instacart. Yeah, and bring you the groceries, yeah, bring me,
yeah, just bring me the groceries. You'll never see me
again, or hear me,
Bridget Fonda. She's, she got married to Danny Elfman.
Yes, she did.
One, one child, father is Peter Fonda, and the paternal aunt was
Jane Fonda. Yes, she just kind of got out of the business in
2002
Yeah, it's been a while. She's just
been not doing anything,
yeah, just being a mother. Yeah,
just got one kid,
and I understand she's really enjoying just being a normal
person
being a regular,
hopefully she was smart about her money.
I hope so. Well, I imagine she was Danny hurting. Yeah, he
ain't gonna be hurting for anything. Boingo Boingo, yeah.
And also all the Batman movie, all of the
screen, yeah. So,
yeah, they're doing okay.
She has, yeah, she's not weathered very well. No, she is
not. I think it's again because of that car accident.
I think it is too. I think that must, she must have had a lot of
pain, and I know pain medications can make you, you
know, balloon out and gain weight.
I mean, not bad. I mean, she's, she's aged well.
Oh, yeah, she looks fine, but she's gained a lot of weight,
though.
Yeah,
but you know,
but it could happen to the best. Yeah, I have no room to talk.
Does
happen, yeah. But you know, again, growing up, you know,
with that that Fonda name, I mean, are there any? I'm
wondering, are there any other Fondas coming down the pike? And
not any that I'm fond of. Yeah, I was waiting for that.
He's here all night. Ladies and gentlemen,
try the beef.
Tip your waitresses. Oh gosh, every
time I hear that, what was that from The Prices? Right, yeah.
Also, got this one. This one's a good one. All right, that one's
a good one. It's Kelsey Grammer falling off of a stage, that one
too. That was a good one, you know. We had,
we had Trace Adkins on recently, and I wanted to ask him about
falling off the scaffold scaffolding at his home.
Oh, really? Because,
yeah, he, I mean, he was
that dude, we should.. he seems to be somewhat accident prone.
Yeah, he fell
like what, 1215,
man
ended up in Vanderbilt, and he was telling them, because they
were telling him what it would be like to recover, and the
recovery would be easier if they just took off his leg, and he
said, "Well, just take it off, and they were going, "Well, now
we can, you know. They were talking, tried talking out of
it, and he said, "But boy, he looked at it, you know. He said
they've done so much great work, because I know a lot of vets,
and with what they've come up with for people that do lose
limbs, he said I can live with that.
They said your voice will go up about three octaves, you know,
and that's what changed, but Is
that when I, when I put the headphones on for the first
time, when he sat down, it was like he was like,
oh, I know the voice, it's in
your ears, you know, you're up there, it is,
yeah. Well,
and it makes you feel, because, like, I said, you know, usually
I feel like a man, but when I get around that dude, I feel
like a boy.
Yeah, you can hear the separation of the tones in his
voice. You know what I'm saying? When you have somebody that has
that deep of a voice, the timber
is there.
That timber, the separation is what you're hearing. Yes, that
is unreal for me? I mean, it's like, dude, that guy.. what up?
Gosh, oh, I know.
I wish I had his golden pins. Yeah, I wish I had his voice.
You know, I still think it's a crime that he's not any in any
of these Taylor Sheridan, because, man, he'd be perfect on
land, man.
You never know,
I mean, what a perfect
Taylor Sheridan does listen to this show, so I mean, maybe
we'll give him an idea.
Oh, maybe. So,
yeah,
because I think I think you're missing it, Taylor.
Yeah,
because Trace would be perfect on that, or even Dutton Ranch.
Totally, he would totally fit on that show.
Maybe we'll get him in season three when Taylor Sheridan's
moved on to something else. Yeah,
when he's starting another project, yeah. Whatever happened
to Lioness? My wife and I loved Lioness. It was a great series,
and they had two seasons. All of a sudden, we've been waiting on
season three for years now.
Yeah, isn't that the kid in Charlie Brown with the blanket,
Linus, is that what you're talking about? Okay, yeah, I
guess I'm just not as hip as you, Johnny B.
No, so that was
a good, that was a dad joke. I liked it.
You got to be one of the funniest, like
unintentionally. I mean, the way I look, we're talking about I
thank God every day that we had that lunch, because when we did
that, I thought, man, I love being around this guy. Plus,
this dude's got all kinds of stories, and he is funny as
hell. I thank God that he put us together. Well,
that's kind of me to say, Johnny. I feel the same way,
man. And you know it. It's always.. you know, I always look
forward to coming here. I do too.
In fact, I came here early today. Yeah, I was hanging out
here, and finally they came in. They said, well, we don't know
if Jim.. when Jim's coming back, he said, 'Where's your other
partner? And I went, 'Oh, that's right. Oh, yeah, we were
supposed to start later. My guy,
Jonah, texted me. He's like, 'Johnny B's here. And I'm like,
'Oh crap, did I misread my account? Oh, you
know, you were fine. I goof,
but it was literally when I was heart jumping into my throat.
I'm sorry, guy, it was
all me. Yeah,
got here three hours early. That's fine. I
just left all my presents for everybody here. Went home,
and
you could have stayed. I
could have. He told me I could, and I thought, well, no, it's
all right. Take
a nap on the couch.
I could have trust me. This ain't John's
room wasn't being used at the moment. Go nap in John's room,
and John, keep, keep healthy, brother.
Yeah,
in fact, John and I were in the hospital around the same time.
No,
I had that sissy heart thing going on. I can't compare to
what he went through. He had an
actual heart attack.
Yeah, he did. I didn't,
second in 11 years that he's had that.
Wow, we gotta have John on sometime, because bring him on,
because he's a.. I mean, I love his personality.
He's actually.. his father was very big in the music business
around here, and in Muscle Shoals. He used to build
studios,
really.
Yeah, so we can have him on.
Yeah, definitely.
Yeah,
I would love to.
He's very inspired. He's got a very good command of
philosophies and realistic motivational techniques, you
know,
but is he as good as us as us at that,
you know?
I think he's probably better. No, no, let's not. We like to
keep our gig, but man, this has been a lot of fun to do, and
I've enjoyed it. And you know, today we kind of got into some
politics, but that's fine. I mean, you know, we mostly like
to stay away from that, but this time it's been too much in the
news and with entertainment as well,
so I believe if I'm counting right, this will be episode
number 46 I
want to say yes. So, wow,
Johnny, almost halfway to that 100
Yeah,
you know, we started in September of 25
so when we get 100 are we going to drink, or.
oh, wow,
that's your call, probably
not, probably not a good idea. I
drink after every one of them. You drink a lot at that baseball
game when I was doing the announcing. I was like, what's
the deal with that?
Come on, I mean, it was, it was, it was a little bitty bottle of
Jimmy,
every time, every time I shut the mic off, you were taking a
swig. I was like, what am I doing? It's that bad of a job.
After every episode, that's a new milestone that I celebrate.
I got the whiskey right there. So you drink
afterward, I drink before. Now, if we could drink
during, yeah, there we totally can. I've
done podcasts where we had, yeah,
that's
nips of whiskey.
I don't drink anymore. Yeah, I'm a boring best. We're not
doing that. Yep, you ain't much fun since I kind of got that
when you took me to the,
I enjoyed the Indy car thing we went to, and I just, I don't
think you thought I was much fun. Oh, come on, Johnny, would
you want
to do that again?
I might, yeah,
yeah, I just may have to. You guys make sure you go and tell
me
about it afterwards, like, yeah, it happened the last time, yeah,
yeah, because I think maybe you should take Jim this time. I
think my little friend, I think her
brother's going to be in the race again. Is
he really?
Yeah, he was in the Indy 500
Oh, wow, yeah,
Jacob Abel,
good for him.
You met his sister, very nice. Molly Abel, yeah, yeah, I think
I think they'll be in this race here in Nashville next month, or
actually this month, it's later this month, because this is
July. So, anyway, I'll just
never forget, you know, you going up to
Alex below,
yeah, to get a picture with him out of my review, and a million
girls in real short shorts and altar tops.
Yes, yep, and maybe, maybe that's what I'll wear if I don't
know, you think Palo Alex Palo, who's like the top of the world
in IndyCar racing,
oh yeah,
he
lotus,
you know, he might, might get another picture with him,
yeah, I think I'm sure he would just welcome you in short shorts
altar time. Yeah, that old hairy belly, that's
right. Yeah, well, we sure enjoyed having y'all in this big
circle in the drain today, and we'll have a lot of
interesting.. we got more interesting guests coming. Yeah,
we do.
We got some other folks aligned. We wish we could tell
you, but we're just not going to it, yeah,
yeah, but we do appreciate all of the just, and we knew we
would all the great response to the Trace Adkins trifecta that
we were excited to get out there,
sure, and we got a lot of good response from Sheila Shipley
Biddy,
yeah, I mean, we should stop and thank all the wonderful guests
we've had. Larry Stewart, Sheila Shipley, Biddy, Larry Stewart,
Mickey Hayes, Chris
Golden,
Chris Golden. Great episode. Yes, and we hope to get Gary
Gentry back on if he can find the place. Did you ever get with
him and get what happened? Did he, did he, he
got lost,
did he? Yeah, and I gave him directions,
you know, Trey, I gave Trace directions, he found it, okay,
yeah, and Mickey, who doesn't live here anymore, yeah, you
know, Mickey Hayes found it, yeah, he came
right up to it, but Jim, do you have that issue with other, you
know, there are other businesses that happen out of this
facility, do other folks have a problem finding this place? Why
is it that just the podcast guests can't seem to find it?
Yeah,
typically because I'm not clear in my directions. You
think so?
And I will say, long driveway connected off of the main road.
Yeah, I mean, I
could always tell the people that are like at, like, with
Trace, I saw his truck pull in and stop at the foot of the
driveway. He could set, you could tell the train of thought
he was really this house on a hill that looks like, you know,
looks like a out of a horror movie,
but yeah, I mean, but I give it directions to everybody, you
know, I give them the actual physical address, give them
directions, you know, June Lake, turn on the Buckners, second
house on the left, long driveway, flagpole, but usually
I guess there's not a flag flying for a while, but I don't
know why we need to get a
flag back up. Yeah, we do seems to get the Jolly Roger,
yeah. Plus, you know, putting signage up at some point would
be nice, you know. I'll put out to put that up, but then
if you do that, then the fans are going to just go nuts, you
know. Totally, I didn't
think of that, Johnny B.
Yeah,
yeah, that's one thing about this. I mean, we have the quiet
solitude here, but that would all change. Oh, it would,
man, they'd be, they'd be storming the palace,
yeah. And then, instead of circling the drain, they'd be
storming the
overwhelming the dread, clogging the dread,
yeah, those Conway Twinie fans.
What was renamed the Comod Cast of that? Yeah, we're clogging
the drain, yeah.
Maybe we should, maybe that's our new name, clogging the
drain. I
wonder if we can get that domain. The cool thing is, we
can have cloggers come in. That's right, that'd be kind of
cool.
Yeah, the cloggers. But tell the
folks where they can check out Circling the Drain. Jay,
no idea. You
don't know where it's at.
Oh God. Sure. Well, it's everywhere. It is of the audio
platforms of the Apple Podcast, iHeart. We're on TuneIn, I
think, right? We're on the TuneIn. Sure, we are. I'm pretty
sure we are. Anyway, all of those Spotify and such, and of
course, you can see our videos on YouTube, as well as Facebook,
and of course, the website circlingthedrain.net
and X, don't forget X,
yeah, yeah, I, you know, but I will admit, X acts funky
sometimes, won't let us get, you know, I have found that at times
when the videos are kind of long they act a little goofy, so, but
anyway, that's our desire, so try to find us there as well.
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