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You're listening to The Bible Guys,
a podcast where a couple of friends talk

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about the Bible in fun, in
practical ways. Well, hey, welcome

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back to The Bible guys. It's
Friday. It's Friday. If you're listening

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when we released it? What is
that song? It's Friday Friday? What

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is that? I don't remember.
Yeah, it's a long time ago.

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I get you too. No,
no, no, it's it's a goofy

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little song. Yeah, yeah,
but it is Friday. And so today

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we are kicking off the segments.
Which what's the most important segment that we

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do? There's no there's no doubt
about it. If we didn't do it,

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it would be full on mutiny from
our listeners. Well, and we

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don't do it every Friday, I
know. And so we're on the verge

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of mutiny. Oh right, so
here grumblings the mutiny, mutiny, mutiny,

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mutiny. So it's it is what
made Chris mad this week? Because

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there's no other way that we'd want
to end the first week of a new

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series than with our favorite segment.
So, Chris, what made you mad

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this week? Well? I got
to tell you. It took me,

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It took you all of a minute
to think. Took me all of a

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minute that to think of something.
I have pretty much stopped going to fast

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food restaurants for the most part.
I'm trying really hard to lose even you

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know, more weight and get into
shape, and so I try to refrain

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myself. But however, I had
a moment of weakness. Okay, and

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I walked into a restaurant today walking
Do you probably walked into a Tim Hortons,

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Tim Horton's a taco Bell? Yes, yes, yes, good,

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good second guess, Tim Hortons,
that's a terrible first guess. I don't

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know. So I walked into a
Taco Bell and and literally there are people

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standing around. There's not a single
customer, not even one. I'm not

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even kidding, not even a person. Okay, now there's drive through happening,

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right, but there's not a single
person in the whole place. And

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I walk over to the front desk
and they tell me, even though there's

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a cash register in front of them
and with a credit card machine right there,

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they said, you have to order
it the kiosk. Oh, yeah,

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behind you. McDonald's just doing that
too. So I had to turn

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around and walk over and rummage through, and then I actually thought to myself,

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I said, well, first of
all, I did, of course

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say something, and I said,
you're kidding me, and that's all I

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said. And then and they said
no, and I said okay. So

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I just turned around and I was
boiling inside because I'm thinking to myself,

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it is taking me ten times longer, and not two times, not three

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times, at least ten times longer
to rummage through and hit all the different

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options, and then it tries to
upsell me, and it says most people

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with this, it's not just something
that you have to select, you have

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to actually scrawl all the way down
and say no thanks. And so I

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am so upset at this point because
now all I want to do is order

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like two items, right, and
I want like extra onions on something because

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I'm an onion guy, right,
and I want minus something on this other

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thing. So I literally have to
like seriously just go through these things and

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hit them. And I was so
upset, and it took me. It

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would have taken me ten seconds to
say it right, and it probably took

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me two and a half minutes to
press thirty buttons right, and that two

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and a half minutes you're never going
to get back. Oh it's terrible.

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Yeah, and then that's time you
could have been scrolling on your phone while

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they were getting your food ready,
right right, or having conversations Jeff,

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either one. But still then I
go back up and then I say something

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and the guys just standing there watching
me, and I said, you do

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realize that took me ten times longer. They're like, why do you guys

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do that? And he's like,
I don't know, it's policy. So

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the poor kid, he was super
nice, Yeah, and he was,

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well, they deal with it all
day long. All the old guys come

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in and complain to them. But
yes, stay off my grass, it's

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right, you get off my grass, take my order. Yeah, well

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you darn kids. But hey,
I gotta be honest. You know,

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it's no different than going through they're
conditioning you for when robots run the kitchen.

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You know that, right, Yes, So they're going to do this

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for like five years, where you
order without talking to a person, and

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then pretty soon food's just going to
come out to you and they're going to

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have eliminated the entire staff. It's
just going to be a building, right,

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that's what's going to happen. Yeah, or maybe with one person making

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sure that nothing malfunctions, right,
right, But there will be no human

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interaction with your food at all.
They're just unloading trucks and you know,

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making sure buns are in the right
spot, tortillas are open. Right,

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that's what's going to happen. But
I think that they're just they're getting rid

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of the human thing because it's so
expensive, right right, Men in ways

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keeps going up and up and up, and so they're going to decide the

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only way they can sell you a
four dollars burrito is to not pay anybody

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to do it. Yeah, well
you're probably right there. Oh I am.

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I've already loked another the future.
You've probably in the future. I've

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been to the year three thousand.
Not much has changed, but they live

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underwater, so funny. Yeah,
well, thank you for being I rate

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about this. I have noticed that
a lot of you, a lot of

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your your vicari anger for all the
rest of us is because what you're mad

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about is the fact that this is
altering the experience for all of us.

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It's not just you, well,
it's all the above. It is definitely

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for everybody. But do you understand
this one is for you though, special

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this so you're taking this and personal. Is that what you're saying. I'm

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saying that, I'm saying I'm sad
for the world. Yes, because number

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one, it took me ten times
longer. It was irritating. But then

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also it's it's so much faster.
The world is changing. It's so much

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faster to just talk to a human
and have the human just type it in.

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Well, pretty soon, Ai,
you'll be able to do that.

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You just walk up and talk to
the computer. You know that you can

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already talk to your phone and they'll
tell you everything. So pretty soon you're

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just going to walk up and say, hey, Syria, i'd like to

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order. Oh, siria, things
I'm ordering. That's so funny, but

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that's what's gonna happen. You're just
gonna walk up, Hey, Taco bell,

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I'd like to order U. You
know that's what's going to happen.

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Yeah, well, I got to
tell you. It was really irritate me.

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Well, and thank you, And
then there's these you know, people

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on the inside, they don't like
it either. Thank you for thinking of

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us. You're welcome, right,
thank you for thanking you welcome And I

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bet you. There's not a single
person that thinks, oh I like it

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better. Yeah, I've noticed a
theme is for you is customer service is

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a big thing for you, the
customer experience. Yes, I do believe

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in that, me too, And
I've always believed that I would make a

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great business owner. Oh I think
you would too, Chris. I've always

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thought that. In fact, for
years when ministry was super hard and still

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continues to be from time to time, but especially those early years, like

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the first ten years, I actually
thought, I just want to leave ministry,

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go own a business, make a
bunch of money, and then volunteer

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at ministry heavily. Yeah, but
not have anybody tell me what to do.

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I know so many people that in
that first ten years of ministry do

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that exactly yes, and then they
don't really volunteer heavily, that's correct.

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They start consuming they got money,
money exactly right. Yeah, that's exactly

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right. So and then later on, when they're older than they start feeling

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guilty about that fact, and so
then they write checks. They do you

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nail that? So? Hey,
you know, not everybody's cut out for

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it. I get that part.
Okay, here we go. So Genesis

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chapter three who. We made it
out, and it took us a week

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to get out of the first three
chapters. And I'm going to read the

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first several verses. That's actually a
lot quicker than our old series. Yeah,

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I know, our old series.
We were, you know, verse

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by verse in the Gospels. That's
correct. So I'm going to read the

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first thirteen verses here. If you
don't mind today, I do not mind.

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You don't mind? You were why
in it? There? For a

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second? Here we go Genesis chapter
three, verse one. It says the

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serpent was the shrewdest of all the
wild animals that the Lord had made.

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One day, he asked the woman, I really say you must not eat

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the fruit from any of the trees
in the garden. Of course, we

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may eat fruit from the trees in
the garden. The woman replied, it's

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only the fruit from the tree in
the middle of the garden were not allowed

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to eat. God said, you
must not eat it or even touch it.

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If you do, you'll die.
You won't die, the serpent replied

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to the woman. God knows that
your eyes will be opened as soon as

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you eat it, and you'll be
like God, knowing both good and evil.

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The woman was convinced. She saw
that the tree was beautiful and its

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fruit looked delicious, and she wanted
the wisdom it would give her, and

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so she took some of the fruit
and ate it. And then she gave

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some to her husband, who was
with her, and he ate it too.

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At that moment, their eyes were
open, and they suddenly felt shame

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at their nakedness, and so they
sewed fig leaves together to cover themselves.

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When the cool evening breezes were blowing, the man and his wife heard the

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Lord God walking about in the garden, so they hid from the Lord God

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among the trees. And then the
Lord God called to the man, where

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are you? He replied, I
heard you walk in the garden, so

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I hid. I was afraid because
I was naked. Who told you that

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you were naked? The Lord God
asked, have you eaten from the tree?

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Who's fruit? I commanded you not
to eat? The man replied,

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it was the woman you gave me
who gave me the fruit, and I

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ate it. And the Lord God
asked the woman, what have you done?

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The serpent deceived me? She replied, that's why I ate it.

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And then God confronts them all and
they fall under the curse. Right.

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So yeah, let's first of all
establish that the Bible never says it was

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an apple. That's correct. So
for those of us who say, hey,

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eve ate the apple or adamate the
apple, just say fruit next time.

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Although whenever we paint the picture and
there's a visual aid, is always

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an apple. It can be an
apple if you want it to be an

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apple. Yeah, that's true.
I mean it could have been an apple,

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could be, but it could have
been anything other than an apple.

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Could have been a mysterious fruit,
could a well or maybe maybe a fruit

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that we know not of a dragon
fruit, because after all, it was

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a special tree. No, no, it could have been. It could

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have been the lemon. Stop saying
fruit. You're saying fruit. Stop it.

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I'm saying, like a mysterious fruit, mysterious fruit. O. That's

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likely like this something that we I
don't know anything about. Correct. You

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think it's a special tree. Sure, it could be a special food.

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It's a glowing, mangle looking thing
that tasted like mud. What I don't

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know. I was trying to be
funny. Hey, so okay, let

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me let me go and say this. So so I did this. I

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did this message one time and you
what if you heard this message that I

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gave from top to bottom, you
would think it's one of the most clever

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things. But it follows the pattern. I'll be the judge of that.

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Yeah, okay, so I do
I do a message where I act like

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it's a seminar. And so the
title of the message is how to sin

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successful? Oh yeah, yeah,
yeah, you've told me this before.

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Yeah, this is clever. Ye, how to sind successfully. I'm like,

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okay, I'm like, guys,
if you want to learn how to

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really truly have a pattern of sinning
successfully, this is this is the pint

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wanting to be a really good world
class and a really good world class.

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I was like, the very first
thing you need to do is do what

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Eve did. This is this is
a perfect pattern, like this is this,

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this will bl us you know our
powern The first thing you need to

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do is doubt or make light of
God's word. Right, That's the very

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first thing that happened, because uh, you know, the serpent comes along

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and says, did God really say? And And so that's that's the first

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questioning that is recorded in the Bible
of questioning God's word, Because up to

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this point, every time God spoke, it seems like nothing was recorded in

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response in terms of her butt.
But yet this is the first time that

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there's a question did God really say
did he really say that you that you're

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not gonna you know, delivered,
you know, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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And so then you can't eat.
And then the second the second step

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is is that you twist or or
or you know, just twist the and

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justify with half truths, because that's
what Satan did. So Satan actually kept

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the truth. He said you you
should not surely die. Well, actually

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that's technically true in other words,
like they weren't going to eat the fruit

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and die that second, right,
But but but really what was true is

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the process of death. Their spirited
started. Yeah, their spirit died,

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They died spiritually immediately, their physical
self didn't die. And so and so,

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so Satan takes the word of God
and twists it and have truth.

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And then what she does is is
she starts to justify it because it says

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well, then she says, okay, she looked and she saw that it

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was beautiful and it was good to
eat, So she starts justifying it.

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Right. Anyway, there's a pattern
that goes on here I'm not sure if

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I should uh tell you all seven
of them. Maybe I can if I

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just glance at these uh and so
then and then uh uh she justifies.

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And then what does she do is
she uh surrounds herself. She she surrounds

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herself with other people who will who
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so then you know there's Adam there
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to run and hide, you know, from the sin, trying to responsibility.

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and so you know, so Adam
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know. So God says to Adam, hey, why are you hiding?

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Who told you you were naked?
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blame me, blame apple breath over
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that he blames God. The woman
you gave me right, right. If

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there's anybody I'm the least responsible for
this, there's only three. There's only

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three people I'm the least responsible.
I'm just walking through the garden and she

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comes up and hands me the apple. And you made her, you gave

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her to me. I didn't ask
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It's your fault ultimately, if you
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if you really think about it,
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so everybody has the blame game.
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the seminar and the entire time.
By the way, when I'm unpacking this,

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I said like, okay, justify
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now, this is this is essential. Listen. If you don't get this

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right, you're not gonna be able
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make sure that you master the art
of justifying right. And I'm just really

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getting into this, and so I'm
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I get to the very end and
I say, okay, so how you

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fails. What's the key to failing? Here's the key to failing. Don't

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do step number one. Yeah,
and you have to do step number one,

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which is doubt or make light of
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everything. If you master step number
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And that's the way I give a
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is just incredibly true, isn't it. It all starts with doubting or making

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light of what God says. You
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take that description from a couple of
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We didn't overtalk it, but it
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mile square garden if you look at
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So think about this. The Bible
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middle of the garden. So that's
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right, right, is how big
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miles right from you know, is
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if the fifteen hundred miles is true, so we're talking somewhere around like,

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uh, Chattanooga. And the reason
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the location of the rivers, Yeah, and how far apart yeah yeah,

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euphrates the Tigris. And then then
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So it's about a fifteen hundred miles
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one tree that God says, she
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right, So somewhere it's like around
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in Chattanooga. They show up in
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dude, what why as big as
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you there? Isn't it amazing how
we start to fixate on the thing we

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can't have right? This is this? So this is why Paul tells us

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think about things that are good and
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and it's it's because if we aren't
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closer and closer to the thing.
We can't have that person in the office,

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we can't have that house, we
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max out our credit cards because we
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we have to have the same vacation
everybody else has, right, And then

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we wind up mortgaging our life,
ruining so many things because we get fixated

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on the one thing. Why,
dude, If I had a fifteen hundred

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miles square garden and guys says,
don't eat from that one tree, you

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know what I'd do. I'd go
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fifty miles all the way around it
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inside there because we got all the
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that garden was theirs to indulge in
for eternity, right, and here they

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are, Oh, what an interesting
thing I'm standing by the tree I'm not

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supposed to be by, right,
isn't that? You know? We're always

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amazed, right, We're always amazed
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the you know, satan, the
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why did he come as a serpent? It's serpents are any animal he could

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have come as. The Bible refers
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and that that evil serpent whatever it
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certainly he came to her in a
familiar form, right, didn't come as

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an alien, didn't come as a
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as something she'd never seen before or
something that was benign. It was

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something she was familiar with. And
oftentimes that's what the devil will do,

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is to take a familiar thing,
something we get comfortable around. And that's

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where our temptations have come from,
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you and I would say that,
you know, hey, it wasn't it

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wasn't believable, like she should have
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right, But yeah, think about
the world that they were living in at

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the time, Right, they walked
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in the garden, God spoke audibly. There there were you know, they

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had just come from and every day
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was a new thing. They were
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right and and and Adams saw,
you know, or at least didn't

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see. He saw the results of
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So the things were so supernatural around
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you know, we're about to find
out that Sin has a curse over the

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garden. They have to tend to
it weeds, they're all part of the

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curse, right, So imagine just
how supernatural the garden itself probably was before

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Sin came into the world. So
there there are different things. Not to

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mention, I'm sure that Adam probably
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right, all these roaming animals,
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So so, I mean, there
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supernatural, and everything would have been
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Yeah, everything they were, everything
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was a brand new Yeah, everything
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know, the serpent speaks to go, Oh, apparently those kind of snakes

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talk. It would have been because
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of these things, right, right, and so it would have been totally

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natural to her. I guess I
guess those kind of snakes talk. That's

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cool, sure, right, because
you just don't know, you don't know

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anything. It's just like a clean
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brand new. So you have these
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He told them to go and reproduce, right, So they're fully human adult

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bodies. But their minds, if
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just learning a brand new thing,
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it before. If you're completely and
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surprised by a thing, right,
And so I think that's why the Devil's

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able to come to her. He
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that's what he came to her as, and it made sense to her.

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I guess you know, the thing
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just said they created Adam and Eve
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yet they were brand new and they
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time. If you try to measure
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minutes old, but the evidence shows
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I don't know whatever, thirty years
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could process language immediately, right.
So the point is is that sometimes in

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science people will try to measure the
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Earth has to be this old because
the evidence shows it as opposed to having

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been created with age. Yeah,
because the planet had to have cooled down

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to this point, the atmosphere had
to have developed to this point. There

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needed to be a water saturation to
this point, a temperature control to this

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point, distance from the Sun at
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if God just created it with time
already built in, because God's outside of

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time. So if you just built
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he made Adam with age, Adam
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God gave him that command, right, and then could do the work.

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So God created him with age,
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the planet, is he created us
with age. Yeah, Well, it's

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very obvious God did it with the
planet. Yeah, because it says that

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he created the planet in a day. Do you you ever do a YouTube

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video and you're trying to get to
a very specific thing. I just did

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this the other day. I was
watching Heritagechurch dot com. I was watching

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one of our messages, and I
wanted to scroll to the song at the

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end of the message. So I
just grabbed the little thing and I scrolled

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it. But I could see the
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got to minute fifty two or whatever
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did, is he just grabbed the
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where he needed to have it be
in order to have it have the story

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start right there. Are you saying
that you purposely fast forward through my message

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to see the ending song? I
rewatched the song, I'd already heard the

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message. Yeah, and it was
a fine. But that's that's what I

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believe God did, is he just
fast forward to the point. Because for

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a being outside of time, time
is nothing, right, he just needed

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to get to the starting point for
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he got it to that point,
cooled, the planet, got everything exactly

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where it needs to be, so
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yet the story starts at a very
precise time. It's the same thing he

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did with ad him. I think, yeah, that's great. Well,

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I think that we are at our
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most devastating moment in human history.
Yes, and then uh, we'll pick

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up with the curse and then God's
solution to it, and we'll do that

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next week next week on Monday,
if you're following day by day, and

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hopefully we'll see then on the Bible. Guysh