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Travis Bader: I'm Travis Bader,
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ca.

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It's that time of the year
again, Christmas is upon us.

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New Year's just around the corner.

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This is the very.

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Last episode of the Silver Corp podcast
in 2023, and we thought we'd try and

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do something a little lighthearted,
a little fun, a little frivolous.

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I'm joined today by my wife Tiffany Bader.

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You might remember her from such
podcasts as the Silver Corp Podcast,

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episode 100, the Ask Me Anything
and Silver Corp Podcast, episode 40,

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which is the The Woman's Fly Fishing
Group down here in the Lower mainland.

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What are we doing today, TIFF?

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Tiffany Bader: We are gonna melt our
faces off with some, uh, hot wings.

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We've got the, uh, the lineup from
hot ones, one through 10, and,

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uh, I can say that they are hot.

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My fingers are burning from saucing them.

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And I was coughing and hacking.

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I can smell it from here.

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Yeah.

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When they were airborne, they're
like, I, I've really caked it on.

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So we're going to be in some pain.

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Travis Bader: So what I'm not, I see
you got Pepto the table as well too.

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Is that fair?

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Tiffany Bader: Yeah, I don't know.

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I don't know what to expect.

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Okay.

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I'm not very good with spice.

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Travis Bader: So, well, I
can smell them from here.

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I love hot wings.

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I love chicken wings.

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I should say, maybe not
necessarily hot wings.

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I love chicken wings.

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Um, melt my face off hot, not a fan
of, but I can tell you, these are

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all going to be frozen cold, like
people will watch this, probably won't

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realize that all the chicken is going
to be cold by the time we get to it.

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Tiffany Bader: Yep.

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Yep.

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We cooked it this morning and brought it
over and saw some and got stuff together.

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And it's now hour and a half later.

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Travis Bader: So to make up for that, you,
uh, You extra sauced each and every one.

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Yes, I did.

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Yeah.

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So what's your strategy?

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Tiffany Bader: Uh, I'm pretty
good at turning off my brain,

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which, you know, and, uh.

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I too share that trait.

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So that's excellent.

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I can, I can push through
things that kind of suck.

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So.

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You say now.

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I say now, but, uh, come da bomb
or I don't know, I don't know

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how far I'm going to get before I
start complaining, but, uh, we have

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eggnog, so that should help too.

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Travis Bader: So we've got 10 different
sauces and Tiff brought some Pepto Bismol.

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The bomb is number eight.

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And by all accounts from the internet
research I've done, people say that's

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supposed to be the hottest, even though
it's rated lower on the Scoville scale.

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So I guess we'll find out.

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So the drill here as well.

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We've got a bowl in front of us with a
bunch of questions that have been put in

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there and we'll work our way through it.

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Do we eat first?

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Do we, do we ask a question first?

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How's this work?

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I

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Tiffany Bader: don't know.

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It's your podcast.

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I say we do it every, whatever you want.

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Maybe on the show, they.

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They, I think they ask the question while
they're eating it so you can like have to

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go through the pain of eating a hot wing.

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And then,

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Travis Bader: yeah, well, my strategy
for this is going to be simple.

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I'm going to do my best not to have
any water, not to have any eggnog.

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I have found that if I have hot stuff
and I have a temporary relief from the

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water or milk or whatever it might be,
it just comes back 10 times worse for me.

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So I'm going to see if I can
make it through the whole thing.

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Without anything, I'll say that now,
all brave before I even bite into

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Tiffany Bader: number one.

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Okay.

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And I'll probably drink your eggnog.

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Travis Bader: Do we have a

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Tiffany Bader: question?

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Yeah, sure.

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Oh, I'll ask yours first.

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Yeah.

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Travis Bader: And what side do
I start on here, by the way?

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I don't want to start on the number 10.

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The left side.

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Okay.

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There we go.

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Tiffany Bader: Okay.

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First question.

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How big is your inner circle?

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Travis Bader: Not big.

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Inner circle?

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Intentionally?

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Not big.

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Oh, I guess I should eat my wing.

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You're going to have to eat your wing.

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There's a lot of people that I
love that are part of my life.

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If we're going to talk absolute
inner circle, you know, in life

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there's givers and there's takers.

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Are you sure I started on number one?

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Yep.

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It's number one.

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Okay.

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There's givers.

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There's takers.

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There's matchers.

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Not to be egotistical, but
I view myself as a giver.

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One thing I've found and people have
pointed out to me is a goodwill.

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People with goodwill will have
their goodwill taken advantage

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of by those with ill will.

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There's going to be lots
of takers in the world.

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I do my very, very best to try
and surround myself with savages.

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Other people who are going to want
to give, not just at the same level,

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but try and outdo you on a regular
basis when I try and outdo them.

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And I find that.

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That drives me, and it helps that
inner circle just do that much better.

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How about you?

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What's your inner circle like?

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Tiffany Bader: Yeah, I mean, you
put it a lot nicer than I would.

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Um, I feel like I'm getting older, and
maybe crabbier, and less willing to,

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uh, I don't know, you're young and you
want friends, and you put up with stuff

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you're not maybe super happy with,
and you get older and you realize what

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your tolerances are, and what makes
you happy, what doesn't make you happy,

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and it's definitely getting smaller.

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Um, you know, I feel like we've
been through some stuff and it's

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taught us who our friends are.

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And it really like tested
those, those bonds.

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And I feel like coming through those
things is like, man, there's people I know

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in our life that they would do anything
for us and we would do anything for them.

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I don't care how many people
are in our, our inner circle.

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As long as there's a few of
these people, I'm, I feel so

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grateful and so happy for that.

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That's a

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Travis Bader: good question.

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So that's number one, you sauced
the heck out of these guys.

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I, I, I really did.

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And I'm wondering, I'm wondering
what it's going to like.

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So what number one here is what
they got a chart that says it

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is 1, 600 Scoville heat units.

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I did a bit of research.

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I'm not too sure how well Scovilles are
representative of what the heat's going

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to be like, because if they're calling the
bomb, one of the hottest ones, and there's

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still ones that are rated a little higher.

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But I'll tell you, you sauced a heck out
of that one and it's got a good flavor.

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It's got some heat.

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Tiffany Bader: It does.

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Yeah.

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Travis Bader: What do you think?

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I'm just going to go out on a limb
while we're in our early stages here.

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Yeah.

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Do we want to go full sauce on each one
of these wings as we go through and just

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add a little extra sauce from each one?

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Tiffany Bader: I think, I think you're
being over, I've watched the show.

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I've watched almost every episode of
the show, the online hot one show.

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I think.

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You're asking for trouble.

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You're being the Eddie Huang going to
wing number 10 and eating them in reverse.

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And then being like, Oh my God,
throwing up and can't do it.

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I think it's a bad idea because I
say that because I have sauced, I've

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sauced the hell out of these wings.

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Travis Bader: Okay.

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I like the, uh, the Mayor Rudolph.

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Someone sent that one over
to us Saturday Night Live.

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If anyone hasn't seen that one, watch it.

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It's hilarious.

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She does a, uh, a skit on a
whole hot one saying, okay, well,

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let's get into wing number two.

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Okay.

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Tiffany Bader: I'm going
to ask you a question.

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Travis Bader: Okay.

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Now, I got the flats because I find
them easier to eat with a mustache and

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I'll get it everywhere with the beard.

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Wing number two is
Shakonda's 6, 200 Scoville.

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So that's quite the step

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Tiffany Bader: up.

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Yeah.

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It looks like it's got dill in it too.

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Tastes okay.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Question.

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You, you want to answer it first?

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Travis Bader: Okay.

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I'm going to eat the wing

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Tiffany Bader: first.

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Go ahead.

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Okay.

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Are there specific books that have,
have had a profound impact on your

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perspective or outlook on life?

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Travis Bader: Mm hmm.

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Good.

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Eat your wing.

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Okay.

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Tiffany Bader: Tastes like clam chowder.

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Travis Bader: You tasted
dill in there, eh?

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Yeah.

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I feel like the first one was hotter.

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Well, I've got a theory on this as well.

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I did

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Tiffany Bader: pour a lot on that

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Travis Bader: first one.

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Okay.

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I've got a theory on this.

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My theory is, and we're at the
Silvercore Christmas party last

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night over at, uh, Franco's
restaurant Taverna Gorgona in Ladner.

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Love that place.

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Great restaurant.

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I love the fact that I can walk home
from there because it's right by our

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office and sorry, everybody else,
but, uh, makes for a fun time, but.

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We were talking about the fact that
we're going to record this today.

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And, uh, Ray was saying that he
had one of these sauces and he just

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touched it to his tongue on a toothpick
and he was absolutely on fire.

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So I'm wondering, here's a theory.

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We'll see if we can test it out.

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If you put a whole bunch of that
hot sauce on, will it numb you out?

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Well, I make it so you can
just reach a level and it

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doesn't, it's no longer spicy.

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I do know I specifically scheduled my
tomorrow in such a way that I'd have no

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hard and fast commitments that I have
to work through just in case there's

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going to be a bit of revenge here.

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Tiffany Bader: I'm taking tomorrow off.

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Now, did you ask a question?

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I did.

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And, and, uh, I will pick it out on, yeah.

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Are there specific books that
have had a profound impact on your

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perspective or outlook on life?

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So

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Travis Bader: people who regularly
listen to the podcast would

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probably pick up on the fact, uh,
you often quote Viktor Frankl.

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He wrote a book called
Man's Search for Meaning.

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I'd say that one was a powerful book.

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I think anybody who's, uh, going
through difficult times or looking

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for some meaning, it's worth a read.

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It's not going to give you
all the answers, but he is the

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father of modern logo therapy.

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He approached concentration camps that
he was in from a analytical perspective

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and looked at finding meaning in
life, even in the worst possible.

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Circumstances so man searched
for meaning Viktor Frankl that

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book I'd say helped a lot You

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Tiffany Bader: so I I mean, you know me.

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I I will read first and foremost I read
cookbooks like I will read cookbook after

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cookbook I read novels And those tend
to stick with me a little bit better.

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I mean, obviously, there's not a
lot of cookbooks that have really,

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like, formed me as a human being.

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Uh, I, I read the odd self help
book, but they never stick.

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I, I find them interesting as
I read them, but they just, in

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one ear and out the other, but.

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Honestly, like, as a little kid
reading, uh, Little House on the

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Prairie, um, man, it was like, I
thought it was the coolest thing.

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I, like, I just, I love those books.

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And What did you like about them?

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I like that people worked.

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I like that they Like it just seemed
simple, everybody, like it wasn't about

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fights and if there were, there were
challenges in their life, like a bear

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came into their homestead and they had
issues and they had to all work really

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hard together, but everyone sort of
like cooperated and worked together.

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And it just seemed like, I don't know,
it seemed like a cool, hard life.

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Travis Bader: So was it that
book that had them going out and

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pouring maple syrup in the snow?

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Yep.

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Okay.

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So I'm glad you.

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I'm glad you read that book because
that's definitely a fun tradition,

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just boiling down some maple
syrup and pouring it in the snow.

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That's kind of a fun
thing to do with the kids.

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Tiffany Bader: Yeah.

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I loved it.

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I mean, I just, I don't know.

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I, and then I went to
my grandparents house.

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My grandparents house was so
much like that, that book.

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Like they lived on a farm and we'd go pick
mushrooms and we'd go pick berries and go

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fishing in the stream behind their house.

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And it just felt like, it just.

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I had grown up in the city and it, it
opened up my eyes to like, okay, I know

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this was supposed to be a long time
ago and this is how people used to live

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and homesteaders and all this stuff,
but like, I could take snippets of it.

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And I found as I got older and got
to know myself a little bit better,

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those little snippets of like going
for hikes and foraging and doing

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all these things was like, it's, I
don't need to be the city person.

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I can like, I can enjoy this stuff, even
though it might be kind of old fashioned.

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So, yeah,

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Travis Bader: I love it.

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Okay.

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Well, let's get onto the next wing.

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What is that?

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Number three?

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Yeah.

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1500, 1500 Skogul for
jumping from 6, 200 to 1500.

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All right.

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That one wasn't that hot, eh?

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The last one.

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Did you find

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Tiffany Bader: that?

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No, like it just tasted like clam chowder.

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I mean, it was like spicy clam chowder.

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All I could get was dill out of that one.

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Okay.

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They're so

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Travis Bader: cold.

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It's hard getting the bone off.

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I'll just eat the bone.

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Tiffany Bader: Uh, what is the most
significant lesson you've learned from

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a failure or mistake in your life?

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Travis Bader: So we're
assuming that I make mistakes.

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Tiffany Bader: Yeah, no, I know, but.

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We've been together a long time, so.

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Travis Bader: It is hard
getting them off these bones.

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You

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Tiffany Bader: want a drum?

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Hmm?

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This one's hotter for sure.

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Travis Bader: Mm hmm.

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I saw you put lip balm
on before we recorded.

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Yeah.

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That may have been a good idea.

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Yeah.

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I have to remember not to touch my face.

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Mm hmm.

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Not to rub my nose.

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This one's got some heat.

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Mm hmm.

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Um, okay.

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Yeah, feeling that one.

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And that's only number three.

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Are we gonna make it to number seven?

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We have to, we will failure or
mistake, most significant lesson.

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It's never too late to stop
regroup and find a more desirable

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direction to move towards.

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I'd say that's probably the
biggest thing that I've learned

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from past failures or mistakes.

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As well to reframe the failure and
mistake as something that's just

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an important part of the process.

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Cause if I'm not failing and if I'm not
making mistakes, I'm not pushing myself.

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I'm just doing the same
thing day in day out.

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Cause I know it's safe and
I'm, I'm not going to fail.

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So I know when I was younger, very,
very pigheaded in my approach,

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very, um, stubborn, let's say, and.

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I would say I can figure this out.

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I can work through it.

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I can make it go because
I don't want to give up.

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I don't want to fail.

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And I think having that distinction
between giving up or running away

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from something and maybe reframing
that as running towards or moving

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towards something that's more positive.

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So I think that's probably the biggest
lessons that I've learned is to enjoy the

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failures, enjoy the mistakes, make them
often do so in a way that you're not.

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Totally taken a step so far that you
can't get back up again afterwards.

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Yeah.

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That's probably it.

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How about you?

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Tiffany Bader: I think it's similar.

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I mean, I grew up feeling like,
like I had a blessed life.

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I don't know why, because when
I look back on it, I'm like,

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there's a lot of crap going on.

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It wasn't really truly blessed
living, but like, I always felt lucky.

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Um, and then.

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You know, you make mistakes, you do
things, but I always felt like I didn't

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want to grow up, I didn't want to look
back on my life and have regrets, and

00:16:04.515 --> 00:16:09.374
having that feeling of like, that's,
that's all easy when you're young,

00:16:09.434 --> 00:16:13.054
and you're not making big choices and
big decisions, and, and then I got to

00:16:13.055 --> 00:16:16.995
a point in my life where I did, like,
I got what I wanted, I got the job I

00:16:16.995 --> 00:16:21.224
wanted, at the place I wanted to work
at, and like, I felt like it came too

00:16:21.224 --> 00:16:24.940
easy, and when I got it, I realized
I didn't, I didn't want it anymore.

00:16:24.940 --> 00:16:29.540
So I quit and I quit in a way that I
quit in a way that I'm not proud of.

00:16:29.700 --> 00:16:36.030
I just kind of walked out and, um,
and I look back and, and out of my

00:16:36.040 --> 00:16:39.879
life, that's, sorry, that's one thing
that I wish that I did differently.

00:16:40.290 --> 00:16:45.730
And for a while, I, I, I said, I don't
regret it, but, and, and I kind of framed

00:16:45.730 --> 00:16:49.460
it like that, but I really, if I'm being
honest, I wasn't proud of what I did.

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So yeah, I mean, like.

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Out of that, I learned, you know,
I didn't want that job, really.

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Sure, you would have stayed there.

00:17:01.605 --> 00:17:01.845
Yeah.

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I didn't want it.

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I, um, I thought I wanted something.

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I thought I wanted a certain lifestyle.

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I thought I wanted all
these things and I got it.

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I realized I didn't, I hated it.

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So to beat myself up over it,
like you said, like it's, you

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know, you're not, I wasn't.

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I wasn't running away from something.

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I just was a little too scared to
admit it to myself at that time.

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So it took me many years to
come to that realization, but.

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Travis Bader: You know what I
like about how you're framing your

00:17:28.930 --> 00:17:31.629
childhood, feeling like you lived a
blessed life and in hindsight, you

00:17:31.629 --> 00:17:36.549
look back and like, maybe that wasn't
the right perspective, but I disagree.

00:17:36.549 --> 00:17:38.360
I think that was absolutely
the right perspective.

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And that goes back to that book.

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Man starts for a meaning.

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That's the one thing that you can
control, no matter what's going

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on around you is your perspective
of what's happening to you.

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I can be mad at it.

00:17:49.120 --> 00:17:50.180
I can accept it.

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I can get over it.

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One thing you can't take from
me is the way I choose to

00:17:54.260 --> 00:17:55.369
respond to what you do to me.

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Last of life's great freedoms is one's
ability to choose their attitude in any

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given circumstance over and over again.

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You choose your attitude.

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Was it a blessed life?

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Hell yeah, it was.

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And it still will be.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, for sure.

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I love that.

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Okay.

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Uh, my lips are

00:18:12.210 --> 00:18:12.590
Tiffany Bader: tingling.

00:18:12.740 --> 00:18:13.379
Yeah, mine are too.

00:18:13.410 --> 00:18:16.499
I, I mean, I had some ChapStick
on when you were talking there,

00:18:16.499 --> 00:18:19.750
so I don't know if everyone else
can see that I was reapplying.

00:18:20.209 --> 00:18:21.570
Travis Bader: We'll have
to make sure we edit it in.

00:18:21.570 --> 00:18:25.650
So we show each one of these little
tactics and tricks that you're using.

00:18:26.024 --> 00:18:26.335
Yep.

00:18:26.395 --> 00:18:32.274
So far, no water's been touched, no
eggnog's been touched and we're on to the

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Tiffany Bader: next wing.

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Is this a competition
between the two of us?

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Or like just Everything's
a competition, Tiff.

00:18:36.544 --> 00:18:36.965
Come on.

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It truly is, isn't it?

00:18:38.504 --> 00:18:38.935
Okay.

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Travis Bader: This is what?

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Um, number four.

00:18:43.754 --> 00:18:44.034
Okay.

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So we're jumping from 1500
Scovilles, sorry, 15, 000

00:18:48.764 --> 00:18:52.094
Scovilles to 36, 000 Scovilles.

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Do we eat first?

00:18:53.605 --> 00:18:53.835
Okay.

00:18:53.835 --> 00:18:54.784
I got some in a cut.

00:18:55.415 --> 00:18:56.705
Oh, that's gonna feel awesome.

00:18:56.745 --> 00:18:59.465
I was working in the shop yesterday
and I got a few cuts on the hands

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here and I can, this is spicy.

00:19:01.065 --> 00:19:01.755
I can feel it.

00:19:12.325 --> 00:19:12.935
Tastes good.

00:19:17.165 --> 00:19:19.995
I wish it was easier to get off the
bones and I didn't have to eat the bone.

00:19:24.210 --> 00:19:25.639
Tiffany Bader: I might not
keep eating all of them.

00:19:30.950 --> 00:19:32.150
Well, there's a lot of sauce on that one.

00:19:32.740 --> 00:19:33.159
Mm hmm.

00:19:33.750 --> 00:19:34.160
Travis Bader: Um.

00:19:34.990 --> 00:19:36.010
But it's got a good flavor.

00:19:36.440 --> 00:19:36.770
I like the

00:19:36.770 --> 00:19:37.210
Tiffany Bader: flavor.

00:19:37.490 --> 00:19:38.009
It's really good.

00:19:38.249 --> 00:19:38.879
That's this one here?

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Travis Bader: Mm hmm.

00:19:43.389 --> 00:19:45.359
Los Calientes Verde.

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I don't

00:19:45.800 --> 00:19:46.470
Tiffany Bader: know what that is.

00:19:47.290 --> 00:19:50.349
It looks like a hairless,
like, panther deer.

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Do you have a question?

00:19:51.749 --> 00:19:52.430
Yeah, I do.

00:19:53.020 --> 00:19:54.810
Uh, how do you express
yourself creatively?

00:19:56.870 --> 00:19:57.370
What were you gonna say?

00:19:57.645 --> 00:20:03.605
Creatively through my, through
my expression of my language.

00:20:03.965 --> 00:20:04.225
How do I

00:20:04.225 --> 00:20:05.455
Travis Bader: assess myself creatively?

00:20:06.215 --> 00:20:12.824
I am, I feel I'm a fairly creative person
who lacks talent in any specific area.

00:20:13.114 --> 00:20:14.114
I'm not an artist.

00:20:14.114 --> 00:20:14.844
I can't sing.

00:20:14.844 --> 00:20:16.629
I don't play musical instruments well.

00:20:17.330 --> 00:20:23.380
Um, but I do enjoy photography
and learning the creative

00:20:23.380 --> 00:20:24.480
process and art through that.

00:20:24.550 --> 00:20:29.040
I enjoy videography and video editing and
audio editing, like doing this podcast.

00:20:29.059 --> 00:20:32.149
I enjoy that, uh, woodworking,
metalworking, things

00:20:32.150 --> 00:20:33.250
working with my hands.

00:20:33.380 --> 00:20:34.590
I enjoy to create that way.

00:20:34.590 --> 00:20:38.840
I recently started, um, I've made
a couple of knives in the past

00:20:39.010 --> 00:20:44.060
with no real idea what I'm doing,
starting the very slow process of

00:20:44.080 --> 00:20:46.049
learning how to properly make knives.

00:20:46.049 --> 00:20:51.050
So maybe in the future, we'll see
a few knives coming out that, uh,

00:20:51.590 --> 00:20:54.520
that I've created that will be
an expression of my creativity.

00:20:55.860 --> 00:20:56.230
How about you?

00:20:56.249 --> 00:20:56.940
You have like.

00:20:57.220 --> 00:20:57.920
Tiffany Bader: Like I know you.

00:20:58.439 --> 00:21:03.463
You, well, yeah, I mean, I'm, my, my
interests are less varied than yours.

00:21:03.463 --> 00:21:05.389
You have.

00:21:05.699 --> 00:21:08.479
Like literally it feels like
every month you're like, Oh,

00:21:08.479 --> 00:21:09.800
I'm going to learn this now.

00:21:10.489 --> 00:21:12.399
I'm going to, I'm going
to do this new hobby.

00:21:13.120 --> 00:21:15.260
Travis Bader: Life's too short
to not try and learn everything,

00:21:15.260 --> 00:21:17.880
or at least try it out and see
if it takes and if you like it.

00:21:17.919 --> 00:21:18.329
Yeah.

00:21:18.520 --> 00:21:24.779
Tiffany Bader: I feel like I want
to like master stuff and I, I love

00:21:24.779 --> 00:21:28.730
cooking and I feel like I could live
a million lifetimes and never get

00:21:28.730 --> 00:21:30.070
to the point where I feel like I'm.

00:21:31.385 --> 00:21:32.155
A master.

00:21:32.975 --> 00:21:37.455
I, I, I mean, I, I look at these,
like, Japanese sushi chefs and, and

00:21:37.465 --> 00:21:41.365
how they dedicate their lives to their
craft and I just think that's amazing.

00:21:43.045 --> 00:21:43.364
Again.

00:21:44.165 --> 00:21:45.945
Travis Bader: Well, that's a whole
Dunning Kruger thing too, right?

00:21:46.105 --> 00:21:48.905
People on the outside would look
in and say, Hey, you've, you've

00:21:48.915 --> 00:21:52.145
mastered at least certain levels
of cooking and types of cooking.

00:21:52.455 --> 00:21:56.765
You're formally trained, you've worked
in bakeries, you've worked in fancy

00:21:56.765 --> 00:21:59.585
restaurants, uh, French trained, a lot of.

00:21:59.585 --> 00:22:00.624
You've quit fancy restaurants.

00:22:00.745 --> 00:22:02.354
You've quit fancy restaurants too.

00:22:04.315 --> 00:22:06.295
But you know, it's always perspective.

00:22:06.480 --> 00:22:06.790
Yeah.

00:22:06.960 --> 00:22:07.730
Are you a master?

00:22:08.230 --> 00:22:08.410
No.

00:22:08.410 --> 00:22:08.810
I don't know.

00:22:08.870 --> 00:22:09.580
No, I'm not.

00:22:09.720 --> 00:22:10.800
Not by my assertion.

00:22:10.800 --> 00:22:12.020
I'm not a master in anything.

00:22:12.030 --> 00:22:14.470
Other people looking at it might say,
man, that guy's got to figure it out.

00:22:14.470 --> 00:22:15.830
That gal's got to figure it out.

00:22:17.829 --> 00:22:18.550
Tiffany Bader: Something to work towards.

00:22:19.150 --> 00:22:20.810
But yeah, if I want to
be artistic, it's through

00:22:20.810 --> 00:22:21.080
Travis Bader: food.

00:22:21.810 --> 00:22:23.960
But I think there's also a
process of celebrating wins.

00:22:23.970 --> 00:22:27.040
Cause if we hold that mindset all
the time of like always learning,

00:22:27.169 --> 00:22:32.420
always working forward, no matter what
plateaus we reach or what wins we get,

00:22:33.179 --> 00:22:37.239
if we don't stop and celebrate them,
which I've, you and I have both been

00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:40.060
bad for, what are we doing this for?

00:22:41.189 --> 00:22:45.360
So that's, uh, not that I'm a New
Year's resolution type person,

00:22:45.550 --> 00:22:48.669
but just resolution in general,
something that we work on is when we

00:22:48.929 --> 00:22:51.239
have wins, stop and celebrate them.

00:22:51.590 --> 00:22:51.779
Yeah.

00:22:51.889 --> 00:22:52.759
Celebrate the wings.

00:22:52.929 --> 00:22:54.279
Celebrate the wings.

00:22:54.870 --> 00:22:55.090
All right.

00:22:55.090 --> 00:22:56.209
What, what do we got next?

00:22:56.480 --> 00:22:59.559
Tiffany Bader: Uh, uh,
Los Calientes, I think,

00:22:59.559 --> 00:22:59.969
Travis Bader: isn't it?

00:23:00.479 --> 00:23:02.799
Uh, no, uh, we're on number five.

00:23:02.809 --> 00:23:04.110
One, two, three, four, five.

00:23:04.110 --> 00:23:04.469
No.

00:23:05.600 --> 00:23:06.130
Oh, I

00:23:06.219 --> 00:23:07.859
Tiffany Bader: counted the
Pepto Bismol as a bottle.

00:23:10.560 --> 00:23:12.720
Brooklyn Deli, I think, is ghost pepper.

00:23:13.370 --> 00:23:13.630
Travis Bader: Yeah.

00:23:13.680 --> 00:23:14.330
We're on five.

00:23:14.380 --> 00:23:16.870
So somebody asked, will
there be ghost peppers?

00:23:16.870 --> 00:23:18.310
That was on social media.

00:23:18.390 --> 00:23:18.630
Yeah.

00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:20.600
Apparently, this one's
got a ghost pepper in it.

00:23:20.760 --> 00:23:21.200
Tiffany Bader: Mm hmm.

00:23:21.300 --> 00:23:22.959
I think there's a few with
ghost peppers, actually.

00:23:24.349 --> 00:23:28.540
We didn't get this year's hot ones
set, but the new one has like this

00:23:28.550 --> 00:23:32.140
new pepper X or whatever they call
it that I don't think that one does.

00:23:32.530 --> 00:23:32.710
This

00:23:32.710 --> 00:23:34.930
Travis Bader: is what,
last dab, Apollo hot sauce.

00:23:34.930 --> 00:23:35.310
Okay.

00:23:36.070 --> 00:23:38.690
Pepper X, the merciless peppers of.

00:23:38.750 --> 00:23:39.390
Oh yeah.

00:23:39.390 --> 00:23:41.150
Quetzal, Zacatecinaga.

00:23:41.280 --> 00:23:41.500
Tiffany Bader: Yeah.

00:23:41.500 --> 00:23:42.200
And I drank it.

00:23:42.219 --> 00:23:44.010
I drank a candle before this.

00:23:45.739 --> 00:23:46.569
More please.

00:23:47.220 --> 00:23:47.770
Travis Bader: Yes.

00:23:47.790 --> 00:23:48.100
Hold on.

00:23:48.100 --> 00:23:48.679
Do we eat first?

00:23:48.680 --> 00:23:49.360
We ask first.

00:23:50.015 --> 00:23:50.325
Tiffany Bader: I don't know.

00:23:50.405 --> 00:23:50.665
Let's eat.

00:23:50.665 --> 00:23:51.605
We want to eat first, Kat.

00:24:03.615 --> 00:24:04.985
Everyone sits and watches us eat.

00:24:05.485 --> 00:24:06.045
Travis Bader: I think so.

00:24:06.235 --> 00:24:06.605
Mm hmm.

00:24:09.595 --> 00:24:13.654
Now, if people are listening to this,
they're gonna miss out on the fact that

00:24:13.655 --> 00:24:15.325
I already feel my face turning red.

00:24:15.565 --> 00:24:16.055
Mm hmm.

00:24:17.565 --> 00:24:19.264
I can feel it in the back of my throat.

00:24:20.365 --> 00:24:22.915
I'm feeling like, remember on Dumb
and Dumber when Lloyd and Harry,

00:24:23.555 --> 00:24:24.594
they're having the hot stuff?

00:24:24.895 --> 00:24:25.805
They're like spraying ketchup.

00:24:26.125 --> 00:24:27.957
It's not hot, just kind
of tickles a little bit.

00:24:27.957 --> 00:24:29.325
Right now, I'm feeling the tickle.

00:24:29.425 --> 00:24:29.825
Mm hmm.

00:24:31.715 --> 00:24:35.855
Tiffany Bader: Yeah, speaking of that,
um, maybe preemptively, in like half

00:24:35.855 --> 00:24:38.405
an hour when we get to the end, what
do you think happens when you die?

00:24:38.855 --> 00:24:39.185
Ha!

00:24:40.075 --> 00:24:40.225
Travis Bader: Okay.

00:24:43.784 --> 00:24:44.655
I've got no clue.

00:24:45.234 --> 00:24:46.315
What happens when you die?

00:24:47.055 --> 00:24:50.205
Um, you know, you could be like
Keanu Reeves, I think the people

00:24:50.205 --> 00:24:51.634
who love you the most will miss you.

00:24:52.145 --> 00:24:52.885
Which is true.

00:24:53.785 --> 00:25:00.735
Um, I don't necessarily believe that
there's some ethereal mansion that

00:25:00.735 --> 00:25:02.885
we will be ascending to upon death.

00:25:04.065 --> 00:25:06.855
I like to think that that's
where we are right now.

00:25:07.414 --> 00:25:10.764
And this is our opportunity to live
things in whatever way we want.

00:25:11.794 --> 00:25:16.195
And if we can't enjoy it while
we're living now, I don't know,

00:25:16.195 --> 00:25:17.405
maybe we get more chances.

00:25:17.445 --> 00:25:18.815
Maybe there's reincarnation.

00:25:18.905 --> 00:25:23.495
I'm not sure, but I do believe that there
is a, uh, a natural order to things.

00:25:24.475 --> 00:25:27.724
And we, as people are connected.

00:25:28.525 --> 00:25:33.485
In more ways than we're disconnected
with each other and our environment

00:25:34.135 --> 00:25:38.845
where that's the trees, the animals,
your natural surroundings, without

00:25:38.845 --> 00:25:43.864
sounding too hippie here about crystals
and energy, I have had conversations

00:25:43.864 --> 00:25:47.335
on the podcast about it, and I think
there's a lot of value to that.

00:25:47.394 --> 00:25:51.525
I think there's just a natural energy
and there's a natural order of things.

00:25:51.845 --> 00:25:56.435
And when you die, that energy, which
is neither created nor destroyed.

00:25:57.199 --> 00:26:01.310
Is just part of everything else.

00:26:01.400 --> 00:26:06.439
So obviously no, this is
something that people have

00:26:07.450 --> 00:26:11.430
quandered over, over existence.

00:26:12.140 --> 00:26:16.250
I got no idea, but I do think that there
is an energy and that we're a part of it.

00:26:16.330 --> 00:26:20.299
And when we, the dust returns onto
the earth as it was, and the soul

00:26:20.299 --> 00:26:25.359
returns into God who gave it or
whomever that might be, that that's

00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:28.209
essentially the, um, the culmination.

00:26:29.054 --> 00:26:29.384
How about you?

00:26:30.895 --> 00:26:35.005
Tiffany Bader: Well, I mean, you know
me, I'm not, I'm not a religious person.

00:26:35.485 --> 00:26:37.695
I think I'd say I'm
spiritual, but not religious.

00:26:37.695 --> 00:26:41.824
But it might be because I've been reading
a lot of no dig gardening books, but like

00:26:41.895 --> 00:26:50.255
I'm kind of learning more about soils and
at the very base, like I think that You're

00:26:50.255 --> 00:26:54.455
part of a system, you rot, you become
part of it, you're like, you're rotting

00:26:54.455 --> 00:27:01.475
corpse is going to feed bacteria and
fungi and, and grow new plants and I think

00:27:01.475 --> 00:27:02.845
there's something really cool about that.

00:27:02.954 --> 00:27:06.075
You're just like, we're not
going to escape this, you know,

00:27:06.114 --> 00:27:10.235
you're going to die, you're just
You're going to become nothing.

00:27:10.235 --> 00:27:12.805
So it makes our time here
that much more important.

00:27:13.005 --> 00:27:14.855
Travis Bader: Or become everything.

00:27:14.855 --> 00:27:16.555
It's like a Dalai Lama ordering a pizza.

00:27:16.705 --> 00:27:17.655
Make me one with everything.

00:27:17.755 --> 00:27:18.335
Tiffany Bader: Yeah, there you go.

00:27:18.735 --> 00:27:20.385
So I mean, there's, there's that.

00:27:20.595 --> 00:27:25.394
However, I still like, I
kind of want to hedge my bet.

00:27:25.394 --> 00:27:29.645
So when I die, I don't want
to be like shot up into space.

00:27:29.645 --> 00:27:31.725
I don't want to be cremated
and thrown in the ocean.

00:27:31.725 --> 00:27:35.695
Like I kind of want all of my
rotting bits and pieces to still be.

00:27:37.005 --> 00:27:37.495
Okay, so let's

00:27:37.755 --> 00:27:38.875
Travis Bader: get this
straight, no cremation?

00:27:39.335 --> 00:27:39.825
Tiffany Bader: No, I want to be

00:27:39.825 --> 00:27:40.325
Travis Bader: cremated.

00:27:40.435 --> 00:27:40.845
Okay.

00:27:40.875 --> 00:27:42.345
Well, how does that go towards?

00:27:42.535 --> 00:27:44.375
Tiffany Bader: Well, I just don't
want to be spread over a large

00:27:44.385 --> 00:27:44.925
Travis Bader: area.

00:27:45.665 --> 00:27:46.045
Got it.

00:27:46.155 --> 00:27:52.545
I always figured one way, if there's
going to be a wake or funeral for

00:27:52.565 --> 00:27:58.225
me, if I could, I'd like everyone
to enjoy me for one last time.

00:27:58.265 --> 00:28:02.635
I lead a healthy lifestyle,
make some Trav burgers, I can

00:28:02.635 --> 00:28:04.015
be spread over a large area.

00:28:04.155 --> 00:28:05.185
Without being cremated.

00:28:05.345 --> 00:28:07.095
Tiffany Bader: It's like,
it's, it was disgusting.

00:28:07.095 --> 00:28:09.505
The first time you said
that, it's disgusting now.

00:28:09.505 --> 00:28:11.425
Travis Bader: It's my dying wish.

00:28:11.425 --> 00:28:11.945
I'm sorry.

00:28:12.055 --> 00:28:14.564
It's not a problem for other people.

00:28:14.585 --> 00:28:16.774
Tiffany Bader: Yeah, no, I'm
not eating a Trap burger.

00:28:18.634 --> 00:28:18.964
Travis Bader: All right.

00:28:18.964 --> 00:28:19.895
What's the next one here?

00:28:20.534 --> 00:28:21.795
Six, a torchbearer.

00:28:22.385 --> 00:28:23.815
Mushroom mayhem.

00:28:24.385 --> 00:28:26.325
So the last one was 39, 000.

00:28:26.325 --> 00:28:28.774
This one's 68, 000 Scoville.

00:28:28.775 --> 00:28:29.575
So it's a bit of a step up.

00:28:29.855 --> 00:28:30.665
So I feel it.

00:28:30.665 --> 00:28:34.925
I feel like I got some of the hot sauce on
my beard and it's just, it's on my cheeks.

00:28:35.544 --> 00:28:36.495
My lips are tingling.

00:28:36.685 --> 00:28:37.664
The cut on the finger.

00:28:37.785 --> 00:28:38.504
I feel that one.

00:28:38.645 --> 00:28:38.905
Tiffany Bader: Yeah.

00:28:38.905 --> 00:28:42.905
I mean, my fingers are still
like, I have notoriously.

00:28:43.110 --> 00:28:46.440
Thin skin, I think, and when I touch
peppers, normally I have to wear

00:28:46.440 --> 00:28:50.510
gloves, and when I'm saucing the
wings, it's affecting my skin, so.

00:28:51.330 --> 00:28:52.390
Looking forward to this one.

00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:52.560
Hmm.

00:29:10.770 --> 00:29:11.139
Travis Bader: Okay.

00:29:14.610 --> 00:29:15.129
Taste that.

00:29:15.130 --> 00:29:16.590
Feel the heat.

00:29:17.469 --> 00:29:18.380
What's the flavor to you?

00:29:19.610 --> 00:29:20.389
It just tastes hot.

00:29:20.510 --> 00:29:21.579
That's kind of what I'm getting, too.

00:29:21.579 --> 00:29:22.470
I'm not getting the mushroom.

00:29:23.399 --> 00:29:24.169
Mm mm.

00:29:25.249 --> 00:29:26.820
Tiffany Bader: I didn't chew
it very well, hoping to just

00:29:26.820 --> 00:29:27.800
kind of get it down quickly.

00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:30.250
And it just, like, dragged
the heat down my throat.

00:29:30.250 --> 00:29:31.300
Travis Bader: Is that the trick?

00:29:31.960 --> 00:29:32.700
Just swallow it.

00:29:34.610 --> 00:29:37.159
You'll be seeing coyotes,
talking coyotes pretty soon.

00:29:37.330 --> 00:29:37.870
Pretty much.

00:29:38.620 --> 00:29:39.200
What's your question?

00:29:39.930 --> 00:29:40.540
Should I pick one?

00:29:40.629 --> 00:29:40.919
Yeah, sure.

00:29:40.919 --> 00:29:41.570
I'm going to pick one.

00:29:43.250 --> 00:29:44.869
I got crap all over my hands here.

00:29:45.610 --> 00:29:46.310
There's napkins there.

00:29:46.350 --> 00:29:47.520
Oh, this is the perfect one.

00:29:48.590 --> 00:29:50.340
Who's your favorite podcaster right now?

00:29:50.439 --> 00:29:51.459
Well, obviously,

00:29:52.869 --> 00:29:54.179
Tiffany Bader: obviously it's Joe Rogan.

00:29:54.610 --> 00:29:57.370
Um, I may be biased, obviously.

00:29:57.800 --> 00:30:02.610
I have to, I shouldn't say have to,
as part of my, as part of my duties

00:30:02.610 --> 00:30:07.610
here at Silvercore, I listen to all
the podcasts, help get them, uh, up

00:30:07.610 --> 00:30:09.120
on the website and all this stuff.

00:30:09.159 --> 00:30:13.310
And so I get to, I get to
listen and I really do enjoy it.

00:30:13.610 --> 00:30:19.509
It's, uh, it's on one side, it's
cool to see you do this thing that

00:30:19.509 --> 00:30:21.289
like brings you so much joy and.

00:30:21.820 --> 00:30:22.840
Happiness in your life.

00:30:22.840 --> 00:30:25.770
So it's different than listening
to someone else do a podcast.

00:30:26.360 --> 00:30:31.530
Um, so yes, a hundred percent bias,
but it's, I love watching you do this.

00:30:32.280 --> 00:30:33.060
Aside from you.

00:30:33.529 --> 00:30:33.959
Yes.

00:30:34.410 --> 00:30:35.599
Aside from you.

00:30:35.980 --> 00:30:38.479
Um, I like Simon Sinek.

00:30:39.630 --> 00:30:40.549
Super positive.

00:30:40.550 --> 00:30:41.400
I know I can go out.

00:30:41.439 --> 00:30:42.700
I'm not going to hear people.

00:30:43.220 --> 00:30:47.080
Stories about people getting murdered or
people fighting or anything like that.

00:30:47.090 --> 00:30:50.890
He's just like, positive
people, positive stories.

00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:51.900
Yeah, I like it.

00:30:52.270 --> 00:30:52.440
So

00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:53.000
Travis Bader: I'm a snack.

00:30:53.009 --> 00:30:53.610
His is what?

00:30:53.610 --> 00:30:54.610
A little bit of optimism.

00:30:54.640 --> 00:30:55.000
Mm

00:30:55.009 --> 00:30:55.019
Tiffany Bader: hmm.

00:30:55.140 --> 00:30:56.429
He's got a couple, but yeah.

00:30:56.830 --> 00:30:58.330
The little bit of optimism is what I

00:30:58.339 --> 00:30:58.439
Travis Bader: like.

00:30:58.989 --> 00:30:59.970
So for me.

00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:01.880
I don't typically listen to podcasts.

00:31:01.880 --> 00:31:07.280
And in fact, when I started this podcast,
I'd been on one as a guest, and I think

00:31:07.280 --> 00:31:09.800
it's that podcast for a long time.

00:31:09.800 --> 00:31:11.180
It was the number one episode they had.

00:31:11.180 --> 00:31:12.560
It's number two, I think right now.

00:31:13.160 --> 00:31:16.060
Um, and we watched one, right?

00:31:16.060 --> 00:31:16.945
You took up me tickets.

00:31:16.945 --> 00:31:17.215
Oh yeah.

00:31:17.215 --> 00:31:19.240
Meat eater one to the meat eater Live one.

00:31:19.240 --> 00:31:20.710
And that time I'm like, what's meat eater?

00:31:20.770 --> 00:31:21.280
What is this?

00:31:21.280 --> 00:31:21.400
Like?

00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:25.890
I wasn't watching TV and
it's not something I, I spent

00:31:25.890 --> 00:31:27.030
a lot of time looking at.

00:31:27.800 --> 00:31:32.060
Not on social media a whole ton,
like number one, who is this

00:31:32.060 --> 00:31:33.140
guy that I'm going to go watch?

00:31:33.170 --> 00:31:37.540
And number two, why would I
want to go watch some podcasts?

00:31:37.550 --> 00:31:37.720
Right.

00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:38.740
And this is a Christmas present.

00:31:38.740 --> 00:31:42.930
And so I'm sitting here thinking
like, how's a nice way to say this?

00:31:42.940 --> 00:31:44.580
Like, this is a terrible
Christmas present.

00:31:45.490 --> 00:31:46.300
Yeah, no, pretty much.

00:31:47.260 --> 00:31:49.800
But we went down, we
traveled into Seattle.

00:31:50.060 --> 00:31:51.930
We saw him, got to meet with Steve and.

00:31:52.205 --> 00:31:55.935
Jan, Janice, Janice and actually
that's where we met April too,

00:31:56.295 --> 00:31:57.195
met April for the first time.

00:31:57.205 --> 00:32:00.325
I had no idea that she was going
to be on the stage and talking.

00:32:00.325 --> 00:32:03.375
I just thought she was some
cool person in the crowd that

00:32:03.385 --> 00:32:04.925
grew up in Surrey like I did.

00:32:05.745 --> 00:32:06.135
You

00:32:06.135 --> 00:32:07.115
Tiffany Bader: guys
will always have Surrey.

00:32:07.495 --> 00:32:08.315
Travis Bader: Always have Surrey.

00:32:09.324 --> 00:32:12.175
Um, so yeah, generally
didn't listen to podcasts.

00:32:13.425 --> 00:32:15.785
Work is what a 10 minute walk from house.

00:32:15.825 --> 00:32:18.445
This studio is a 10 minute
drive from our house.

00:32:18.740 --> 00:32:21.090
If I'm going to listen, it's going to
be when I'm going out hunting, when

00:32:21.090 --> 00:32:22.670
I'm going out on a road trip somewhere.

00:32:23.690 --> 00:32:28.800
But when I do that, um, diary of
a CEO, I'll listen to that one.

00:32:29.030 --> 00:32:29.979
Steven Bartlett.

00:32:30.600 --> 00:32:33.249
Uh, I like the fact, you know,
he's honest about things.

00:32:33.259 --> 00:32:34.770
He's got interesting people on there.

00:32:35.659 --> 00:32:39.619
Um, yeah, I think he's
got some good episodes.

00:32:40.610 --> 00:32:41.510
And, um.

00:32:42.310 --> 00:32:45.350
You know, John Sinai, oh,
feeling the heat there.

00:32:45.930 --> 00:32:48.220
I will, uh, I'll listen
to his podcast as well.

00:32:48.220 --> 00:32:50.350
The expansive, he's a past podcast guest.

00:32:50.630 --> 00:32:52.990
And I listened to these ones cause
both of them are very positive

00:32:53.070 --> 00:32:57.200
and they're always, I love the way
that John can look at things that

00:32:57.210 --> 00:32:58.970
could be difficulty, difficult.

00:32:59.860 --> 00:33:03.670
Problematic and just find a positive
spin or a different way of looking at it.

00:33:03.700 --> 00:33:05.360
Maybe you haven't thought
of, and I enjoy that.

00:33:05.430 --> 00:33:08.139
And that's what I try and do
with the Silvercore podcast.

00:33:09.020 --> 00:33:12.080
Ooh, it's hard with the, uh, the
wings to hold a conversation,

00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:16.270
but, uh, I try to bring positivity
with every single episode we do.

00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:20.770
We've had a lot of opportunity to talk
about things that are going to get a lot

00:33:20.770 --> 00:33:24.900
of clicks and get a lot of views, but I
haven't been able to square myself with

00:33:24.900 --> 00:33:28.520
finding a way that we can talk about it
with some sort of positive resolution.

00:33:29.820 --> 00:33:33.090
And if I'm not bringing in something
that's going to be helpful into

00:33:33.090 --> 00:33:36.950
people's lives, it's just more
complaining of the same, I, I just

00:33:36.950 --> 00:33:37.810
don't want to be a part of it.

00:33:38.340 --> 00:33:38.660
Tiffany Bader: Yeah.

00:33:38.860 --> 00:33:42.530
I mean, it kind of reminds me of,
um, saw some clip with Jordan.

00:33:42.579 --> 00:33:46.469
I think Jordan Peterson was on, he was
on Stephen Bartlett's podcast and he

00:33:46.470 --> 00:33:53.190
was talking about, uh, relationships
and, um, if, if, you know, your, if

00:33:53.190 --> 00:33:55.450
your wife's complaining about something
and she comes there and she's like,

00:33:55.450 --> 00:34:00.489
got all the, her list of grievances,
if there's no solution or what do

00:34:00.490 --> 00:34:02.020
you want me to do about it or no.

00:34:02.370 --> 00:34:05.820
You know, way I'd rather see things
than what's the point, right?

00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:10.110
So I think with, with the podcast,
what's the point in bitching?

00:34:10.270 --> 00:34:12.710
What's the point in having people
on airing their grievances unless

00:34:12.950 --> 00:34:16.169
there's some sort of light at
the end of the tunnel or, or

00:34:16.240 --> 00:34:17.950
resolution or solution or something.

00:34:18.120 --> 00:34:18.310
That's

00:34:18.310 --> 00:34:19.140
Travis Bader: always been my take.

00:34:19.209 --> 00:34:21.730
It doesn't get the same
hits that having something

00:34:21.730 --> 00:34:23.550
inflammatory or provocative with.

00:34:23.730 --> 00:34:24.440
I think sometimes

00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:25.150
Tiffany Bader: people want to bitch.

00:34:25.520 --> 00:34:27.410
It feels good sometimes
to bitch too, right?

00:34:27.430 --> 00:34:27.840
Sure.

00:34:28.995 --> 00:34:29.365
Travis Bader: Okay.

00:34:29.405 --> 00:34:33.095
So I'm feeling kind of brave right
now, like my mouth is on fire.

00:34:33.255 --> 00:34:34.385
Tiffany Bader: This is where
it goes downhill though.

00:34:34.395 --> 00:34:35.735
Everyone's like, ah, it's not so bad.

00:34:35.745 --> 00:34:39.025
And then they, then they get to the last
three or four and then they start crying.

00:34:39.865 --> 00:34:41.155
Travis Bader: So this
was called angry goat.

00:34:41.164 --> 00:34:44.044
The next one in here, dreams
of Calypso make their shack

00:34:44.044 --> 00:34:47.074
face 101, 000 school bills.

00:34:47.805 --> 00:34:48.395
Angry goat.

00:34:48.415 --> 00:34:53.795
I am a simple goat, live on
the back of a pickup truck.

00:35:00.485 --> 00:35:02.195
Okay, I can feel that in the cat.

00:35:17.395 --> 00:35:18.875
Tiffany Bader: Glad I
bought organic wings.

00:35:19.415 --> 00:35:19.775
Hmm?

00:35:20.584 --> 00:35:22.275
I'm glad I bought organic wings.

00:35:24.835 --> 00:35:25.365
Travis Bader: Mm hmm.

00:35:26.575 --> 00:35:28.725
Usually when it's hot,
it comes off the bone.

00:35:29.764 --> 00:35:32.774
If I'm doing this, I'm not
gonna do it half arsed.

00:35:32.825 --> 00:35:33.105
Yeah.

00:35:33.685 --> 00:35:34.725
I'm gonna eat the things.

00:35:35.245 --> 00:35:37.235
It's not coming off the bone,
so I'll just eat the bone.

00:35:37.475 --> 00:35:37.705
It's,

00:35:37.735 --> 00:35:38.375
Tiffany Bader: that's toasty.

00:35:38.775 --> 00:35:39.225
Mm hmm.

00:35:39.655 --> 00:35:40.385
Travis Bader: Oh, that's a good question.

00:35:40.385 --> 00:35:41.145
What flavor are you getting?

00:35:44.125 --> 00:35:44.535
Okay.

00:35:45.725 --> 00:35:46.835
I'm going to see how this hits.

00:35:46.845 --> 00:35:47.145
Yep.

00:35:47.655 --> 00:35:49.015
And then I'm going to
make a proposal to you.

00:35:49.135 --> 00:35:49.535
Oh my God.

00:35:50.375 --> 00:35:55.595
The bomb from the internet research,
even though it's a couple down from the

00:35:55.595 --> 00:35:58.094
end, it's supposed to be the hottest.

00:35:58.265 --> 00:35:58.435
Yep.

00:36:00.005 --> 00:36:02.145
Let's extra sauce the last three.

00:36:03.455 --> 00:36:03.965
You up for that?

00:36:04.435 --> 00:36:04.875
Tiffany Bader: Yeah, sure.

00:36:06.575 --> 00:36:07.285
It's all going to

00:36:07.285 --> 00:36:07.785
Travis Bader: go downhill.

00:36:07.785 --> 00:36:09.465
We'll see.

00:36:09.585 --> 00:36:10.015
We'll see.

00:36:10.645 --> 00:36:11.805
Tiffany Bader: I do have
to work this weekend.

00:36:11.805 --> 00:36:12.864
So, yeah.

00:36:13.555 --> 00:36:16.005
Um, okay.

00:36:18.825 --> 00:36:19.054
Yeah.

00:36:19.054 --> 00:36:21.305
There's no, I'm not getting any
flavor except hot from that wing.

00:36:21.915 --> 00:36:23.524
I like it when you can
actually taste something.

00:36:23.534 --> 00:36:24.505
Travis Bader: The side of my mouth.

00:36:24.780 --> 00:36:25.040
Yeah.

00:36:25.070 --> 00:36:27.270
On my cheek, just probably
because I wiped it.

00:36:27.270 --> 00:36:28.410
It's just fire.

00:36:28.590 --> 00:36:28.880
Yeah.

00:36:28.890 --> 00:36:29.300
All up the side.

00:36:29.340 --> 00:36:29.440
Do you want a

00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:29.970
Tiffany Bader: chapstick?

00:36:30.260 --> 00:36:30.740
No.

00:36:30.890 --> 00:36:31.100
Okay.

00:36:31.980 --> 00:36:35.459
If you were going to live on a desert
island, but it could take only one

00:36:35.460 --> 00:36:36.490
thing with you, what would it be?

00:36:38.279 --> 00:36:38.970
Travis Bader: That's an easy one.

00:36:39.100 --> 00:36:39.350
Yep.

00:36:40.190 --> 00:36:41.460
That one thing would be a person.

00:36:43.090 --> 00:36:44.650
Who would that person be?

00:36:44.670 --> 00:36:45.739
Better

00:36:45.740 --> 00:36:47.020
Tiffany Bader: be me or the kids.

00:36:47.570 --> 00:36:48.480
Travis Bader: Thousand percent.

00:36:48.570 --> 00:36:52.030
If I could only one thing,
I'd bring you, I'd bring you.

00:36:52.350 --> 00:36:52.800
Why?

00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:55.570
Because time and time again, it's proven
that there's a lot of things that I'm

00:36:55.570 --> 00:36:58.899
really good at, but the areas where I'm
deficient, you're a perfect teammate.

00:36:58.980 --> 00:36:59.540
Got you.

00:36:59.629 --> 00:37:01.919
And likewise, areas
where you're deficient.

00:37:02.165 --> 00:37:03.145
Hey, I excel.

00:37:03.235 --> 00:37:04.765
Tiffany Bader: Did you just
answer my question for me?

00:37:04.805 --> 00:37:05.395
Yeah, I did basically.

00:37:05.745 --> 00:37:06.515
So I have to choose.

00:37:09.515 --> 00:37:09.755
Yeah.

00:37:10.025 --> 00:37:10.815
I thought it was a given.

00:37:10.815 --> 00:37:11.195
Come on.

00:37:11.215 --> 00:37:14.785
You're the tall one that can reach stuff
on the top shelf, can get smack the

00:37:15.225 --> 00:37:17.185
coconuts out of the, uh, out of the tree.

00:37:19.015 --> 00:37:19.355
Yeah.

00:37:19.425 --> 00:37:24.395
No, you're a, I, I, I think
that's, I, I like that answer.

00:37:24.965 --> 00:37:30.235
Um, yeah, no, I mean, like even when we
go hunting and stuff, we've, we've kind

00:37:30.235 --> 00:37:33.595
of like fallen into our roles a bit and.

00:37:34.250 --> 00:37:37.470
But we will put you push each other
in and out like when I when you

00:37:37.470 --> 00:37:41.570
first heard take me out hunting I
definitely was like kind of along for

00:37:41.570 --> 00:37:45.900
the ride there to help support I do
the spotting and things like that.

00:37:45.900 --> 00:37:51.575
But in that role of spotting it was It
was a perfect way to learn how to hunt

00:37:51.585 --> 00:37:55.865
because then I, I, all the pressure
was on me so I could, I could like

00:37:56.725 --> 00:38:03.494
look down, I could look at, practice,
uh, identifying between the different

00:38:03.505 --> 00:38:05.165
deer, identifying all these things.

00:38:05.645 --> 00:38:06.005
The different

00:38:06.005 --> 00:38:09.574
Travis Bader: vegetation that they
might be eating and I remember, um.

00:38:10.130 --> 00:38:11.710
You know, like, oh, there's spruce tips.

00:38:11.810 --> 00:38:15.060
When, when the spruce tips stop, our
elevation is going to be too high.

00:38:15.060 --> 00:38:17.320
I'm like, that's a good
indicator for elevation.

00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:19.140
If we're looking for things, the
critters are going to be down

00:38:19.140 --> 00:38:20.370
where there's new vegetation.

00:38:20.820 --> 00:38:23.809
Spruce tips are a good
indicator of fresh growth.

00:38:24.149 --> 00:38:26.080
Like these are things that
I never looked at before.

00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:29.680
I think there's a, uh, the perfect
sort of complimentary thing there.

00:38:30.430 --> 00:38:32.670
But, you know, those questions,
what's the one thing you'd bring?

00:38:32.780 --> 00:38:32.990
I don't know.

00:38:33.060 --> 00:38:34.050
You're in a desert Island.

00:38:34.110 --> 00:38:35.530
Do you want to leave the Island?

00:38:35.750 --> 00:38:37.960
I mean, maybe it's a great desert Island.

00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:39.989
You want to spend the rest
of your life there on, right?

00:38:39.990 --> 00:38:41.479
Yeah.

00:38:41.479 --> 00:38:44.535
Um, That might change a physical object.

00:38:44.605 --> 00:38:49.005
If I want to leave, well, maybe just
an in reach or a satin, that way I

00:38:49.005 --> 00:38:52.254
can just put a, uh, put something out
and bide my time till something comes.

00:38:52.255 --> 00:38:54.935
Having those communications
would be, would be vital.

00:38:55.405 --> 00:39:00.274
So if I'm going to go and have it as
nebulous as that, you, a thousand percent.

00:39:00.945 --> 00:39:01.165
Tiffany Bader: Yeah.

00:39:01.195 --> 00:39:03.975
I like, I'm not the
greatest at building fire.

00:39:04.160 --> 00:39:07.840
And I think, I don't, I don't
blame you for that, but I will

00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:11.920
say your strength in that skill
allows me to focus on other things.

00:39:11.930 --> 00:39:16.500
So, like, I, I just, I, I don't want
to, I don't want to build it up too

00:39:16.500 --> 00:39:21.870
high, but like, dear God, like, you
have bags and bags of birch bark.

00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:26.690
Because, you're like, we'll be driving
on the highway and you pull over, oh,

00:39:26.690 --> 00:39:30.180
I gotta get some birch bark, and you're
scaling trees and grabbing it off some

00:39:30.180 --> 00:39:35.085
dead snags and stuff, and, yeah, I
think, We just kind of like, we have

00:39:35.085 --> 00:39:41.675
like this comfort of knowing, knowing
what we're good at, but I think as well,

00:39:41.675 --> 00:39:43.534
like, you're, you're good at pushing me.

00:39:44.445 --> 00:39:46.855
Uh, you're really, like, you're,
you're good at pushing yourself, but

00:39:46.855 --> 00:39:49.455
you're good at pushing me to be like,
okay, no, I want you to do this now.

00:39:51.715 --> 00:39:53.984
Travis Bader: You know, it's funny
you talk about falling into roles.

00:39:54.075 --> 00:39:59.504
I think that's something that,
for a long time, society, in

00:39:59.504 --> 00:40:00.904
general, was shying away from.

00:40:01.645 --> 00:40:02.905
Oh, you can't define me.

00:40:02.995 --> 00:40:04.895
I don't, I shouldn't be in this role.

00:40:05.075 --> 00:40:07.445
A man's place is here,
a woman's place is here.

00:40:08.435 --> 00:40:12.315
And I think people are starting to
realize that it's not that one's

00:40:12.315 --> 00:40:14.695
better than the other, or one
position is better than the other.

00:40:15.375 --> 00:40:20.744
It's the fact that naturally certain
people will gravitate towards

00:40:20.744 --> 00:40:22.285
certain things that they enjoy to do.

00:40:22.295 --> 00:40:23.794
Why should we shy away from that?

00:40:23.894 --> 00:40:26.635
Just because everyone else says,
well, I shouldn't be cooking.

00:40:26.635 --> 00:40:27.955
You're a fantastic chef.

00:40:28.485 --> 00:40:33.585
And I love to cook, but I know if I want
to have the absolute best meal, having you

00:40:33.585 --> 00:40:36.435
in the kitchen is going to be a hell of a
lot better than having me in the kitchen.

00:40:37.065 --> 00:40:37.455
Tiffany Bader: Wow.

00:40:37.965 --> 00:40:39.215
I don't know.

00:40:39.215 --> 00:40:42.710
I think I may have Um, I may
be holding you back as well

00:40:42.710 --> 00:40:44.699
from developing your, your.

00:40:44.780 --> 00:40:44.990
I'm

00:40:44.990 --> 00:40:46.930
Travis Bader: secretly,
secretly developing on the side.

00:40:46.940 --> 00:40:47.270
Oh, okay.

00:40:47.270 --> 00:40:47.470
Good.

00:40:47.630 --> 00:40:48.210
Tiffany Bader: Well, that's good.

00:40:48.390 --> 00:40:48.650
Yeah.

00:40:48.780 --> 00:40:49.590
As long as it's secret.

00:40:51.790 --> 00:40:55.720
Travis Bader: Yeah, no, I, I think
that the, the idea of, uh, these

00:40:55.790 --> 00:40:59.899
different gender roles, oh, man's out
there making fire, a woman's out there

00:40:59.899 --> 00:41:05.190
cooking, well, I enjoy making fires and
I practice, you enjoy the cooking and.

00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:08.550
It's not a one person,
keep the other person down.

00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:11.230
We're essentially in the military,
they'd call force multipliers

00:41:12.210 --> 00:41:13.450
and you're my force multiplier.

00:41:13.630 --> 00:41:13.850
Tiffany Bader: Yeah.

00:41:13.850 --> 00:41:17.209
And you know, it's funny when I
was, when I was working in kitchens

00:41:17.209 --> 00:41:22.750
and working long shifts and like,
that was, my career was everything.

00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:25.710
Like I, I never thought
that I would quit that.

00:41:26.210 --> 00:41:32.090
And then we had kids and I'm like,
no, like it's a switch flicked in me.

00:41:32.090 --> 00:41:33.300
I like, nope, there's.

00:41:34.635 --> 00:41:35.725
I don't care about my job anymore.

00:41:35.755 --> 00:41:37.465
I want to, I want to raise these kids.

00:41:37.805 --> 00:41:38.925
I want to have a home.

00:41:38.945 --> 00:41:39.865
I want to do these things.

00:41:39.875 --> 00:41:42.485
And I remember I got so much flack.

00:41:42.745 --> 00:41:46.044
And I remember my sister saying,
What the hell is your problem?

00:41:46.054 --> 00:41:48.165
Like, Why did you spend
so many years in school?

00:41:48.165 --> 00:41:51.004
Why did you work so hard on your
career just to throw it all away?

00:41:51.004 --> 00:41:54.085
And I just thought, I'm
not throwing anything away.

00:41:54.094 --> 00:41:59.275
Like, it would, I've made decisions
in my life that I'm proud of, it's

00:41:59.295 --> 00:42:04.294
taken me to a place that I'm proud
of, why would I go away from it

00:42:04.294 --> 00:42:10.925
because I'm afraid that I'm, you know,
working some typical female role?

00:42:11.405 --> 00:42:13.384
Like, why, why should
I be ashamed of that?

00:42:13.395 --> 00:42:16.624
And I, I know people talk about it now,
but like, people weren't talking about

00:42:16.624 --> 00:42:18.555
it like 15, 20 years ago, they weren't.

00:42:18.565 --> 00:42:24.625
Like, I, I, so much, so much flack
from friends and family about it.

00:42:25.925 --> 00:42:27.265
So what do you do all day?

00:42:27.265 --> 00:42:29.025
I'm like, I spend time with my kids.

00:42:29.025 --> 00:42:30.345
Like I do awesome things.

00:42:30.345 --> 00:42:36.385
We go on adventures and I'm supporting
my, my husband in his business and he's,

00:42:36.395 --> 00:42:41.114
he's able to like take risks and do
things because we're part of a unit and

00:42:41.115 --> 00:42:44.855
a team because he knows that we support
each other and I just, I don't know.

00:42:45.325 --> 00:42:45.594
Do you

00:42:45.595 --> 00:42:49.265
Travis Bader: remember after
our second child was born?

00:42:50.365 --> 00:42:56.005
And you decided to make that step full
time out of the kitchen and you're working

00:42:56.005 --> 00:42:59.345
on the house and going through that
period of listening to all the people

00:42:59.365 --> 00:43:00.745
talking to you, like, what are you doing?

00:43:00.745 --> 00:43:01.785
Why are you doing that?

00:43:01.785 --> 00:43:05.414
And you're throwing it all away and out
kind of sitting in the back of your head.

00:43:05.414 --> 00:43:09.695
And do you remember what I did
to, um, help boost your morale?

00:43:10.545 --> 00:43:11.585
Tiffany Bader: Oh, the
mountaineering trip?

00:43:12.455 --> 00:43:13.065
Yeah, I know that.

00:43:14.335 --> 00:43:15.735
I think I blew out the speaker there.

00:43:16.295 --> 00:43:19.895
Uh, Yeah, I was like, I was really
struggling because I, I had spent

00:43:19.915 --> 00:43:23.485
my whole life like I'm going to live
in a city, I'm going to do this, I'm

00:43:23.485 --> 00:43:26.355
going to have a career, I'm going to
like, this is, I'm the breadwinner

00:43:26.355 --> 00:43:29.824
of our, like, we, we figured that you
were like the guy that was going to go

00:43:29.825 --> 00:43:36.095
surfing and hang out and have fun and
the stay at home dad and like, And,

00:43:37.095 --> 00:43:42.675
yeah, I was like, my whole life kind
of flipped and I was, I was struggling.

00:43:42.685 --> 00:43:45.005
Like I really was like,
I lost myself for a bit.

00:43:45.035 --> 00:43:47.505
I didn't know what I wanted,
or I knew what I wanted, but I

00:43:47.505 --> 00:43:49.925
didn't trust myself to like just
kind of push through and do it.

00:43:50.755 --> 00:43:55.344
And yeah, one Christmas, we talk about
crappy Christmas presents, um, you

00:43:55.344 --> 00:43:56.774
got me a trip away in the mountains.

00:43:56.775 --> 00:43:59.105
I was like, I don't want
to go in the mountains.

00:43:59.105 --> 00:44:00.085
I don't want to do this.

00:44:00.085 --> 00:44:00.525
And like.

00:44:01.570 --> 00:44:05.910
I still remember, I still remember packing
up my stuff, getting in my vehicle, and

00:44:05.910 --> 00:44:09.350
driving away while you and the kids were
sitting on the front step waving at me,

00:44:09.350 --> 00:44:13.009
and I was like, I don't know if I started
crying as I was driving away, or it took

00:44:13.010 --> 00:44:22.725
like, A bit, but I get up to Jasper,
I'd driven all day and I hardly slept, I

00:44:23.085 --> 00:44:26.805
slept in my vehicle unfortunately right
next to train tracks, I didn't realize

00:44:26.805 --> 00:44:30.745
it when I parked and then got up to the
camp and where I was meeting everybody

00:44:30.745 --> 00:44:32.604
and like, I was just freaking out.

00:44:32.635 --> 00:44:34.304
I called you and I'm like,
I don't want to do this.

00:44:34.335 --> 00:44:37.924
I don't want to be away for a week and
you're like, no, it's good for you.

00:44:37.924 --> 00:44:38.285
You should do it.

00:44:38.355 --> 00:44:38.865
You should do it.

00:44:39.195 --> 00:44:43.655
And I did, and it sucked
for like the first

00:44:43.655 --> 00:44:43.925
Travis Bader: day.

00:44:44.455 --> 00:44:45.734
I didn't say you should do it.

00:44:45.735 --> 00:44:46.445
You should do it.

00:44:46.455 --> 00:44:51.754
I think what I said was you can
come home if you want, but will

00:44:51.764 --> 00:44:53.985
you look back at this fondly?

00:44:54.165 --> 00:44:56.914
How do you want to remember
yourself afterwards?

00:44:57.155 --> 00:44:59.574
I said, I think you will
get a lot out of this trip.

00:44:59.605 --> 00:45:01.665
It was a woman's trip up in the mountains.

00:45:01.665 --> 00:45:05.415
You'd never done mountaineering before,
and you were going to be going up,

00:45:06.055 --> 00:45:08.725
uh, on glaciers and rock climbing and.

00:45:09.330 --> 00:45:15.060
Crampons and carrying all your kit up
into a remote Alpine location and spending

00:45:15.060 --> 00:45:18.420
a week out there with a group of people
you've never met before doing some

00:45:18.430 --> 00:45:26.120
extremely difficult, arduous things and
arguably, um, in a dangerous environment.

00:45:26.640 --> 00:45:27.190
Tiffany Bader: Oh, I did.

00:45:27.190 --> 00:45:30.740
Like that, that first day, I
don't know what I was thinking.

00:45:30.740 --> 00:45:35.360
I like, I carried the ropes and
I, so my pack was, it was, I know

00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:40.289
when I left, it was almost 50
pounds with just my stuff and then

00:45:40.289 --> 00:45:41.480
carrying the ropes and everything.

00:45:41.510 --> 00:45:43.690
It was a heavy pack going uphill.

00:45:43.919 --> 00:45:45.440
I didn't break in my boots properly.

00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:48.930
So anyone that takes a core
course, I didn't break in my boots.

00:45:48.930 --> 00:45:51.760
So my feet were just
like a hot mess all week.

00:45:52.340 --> 00:45:54.029
But after that first day, I'm like.

00:45:54.425 --> 00:45:58.315
Everything was easier and everything
was fun and it was cool, like totally

00:45:58.315 --> 00:46:02.155
different experiences and pushing myself
and challenging myself, climbed to

00:46:02.155 --> 00:46:06.325
the very top of a mountain and almost
fell off the side of the mountain and

00:46:06.325 --> 00:46:08.614
had to do like a, what do you call it?

00:46:08.764 --> 00:46:10.625
Arrest with a pickaxe?

00:46:10.625 --> 00:46:10.934
Self arrest.

00:46:10.934 --> 00:46:11.935
Self arrest with a pickaxe.

00:46:11.935 --> 00:46:17.760
And, and in retrospect, that was
actually like, It was probably a

00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:20.510
heck of a lot more sketchy than,
than I thought it was at the time.

00:46:20.510 --> 00:46:23.900
I was just like, yeah, like I did
that in practice and I got to do

00:46:23.900 --> 00:46:26.240
a self arrest and stop myself from
going off the edge of a cliff.

00:46:26.240 --> 00:46:26.390
And,

00:46:27.210 --> 00:46:27.830
Travis Bader: um.

00:46:27.990 --> 00:46:28.800
What were the others like?

00:46:28.860 --> 00:46:32.299
Because usually that's how I gauge
is by other people's reactions, like,

00:46:32.600 --> 00:46:33.959
okay, well, maybe that was a little bit

00:46:33.959 --> 00:46:34.459
Tiffany Bader: sketchy.

00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:35.800
So that's how I know it was sketchy.

00:46:35.850 --> 00:46:38.160
It was because the guide was like.

00:46:38.720 --> 00:46:44.550
She looked like she literally destroyed
her pants, like, she, she was pretty

00:46:44.550 --> 00:46:48.420
unflappable, but she was scared,
and for the rest of that day, she

00:46:48.420 --> 00:46:50.800
was, she was right, right behind me.

00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:55.210
Um, yeah, no, it was, it was awesome.

00:46:55.350 --> 00:46:58.800
It was, it was such a great trip,
and it really was the thing that,

00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:01.750
like, flicked that switch off.

00:47:02.150 --> 00:47:06.740
And I was able to just
kind of move on and do my

00:47:06.740 --> 00:47:07.030
Travis Bader: thing.

00:47:07.390 --> 00:47:07.660
Yeah.

00:47:07.700 --> 00:47:13.040
And because I knew there was no way that
I could push you in my role as a husband,

00:47:13.040 --> 00:47:16.440
without some sort of resentment, right.

00:47:17.210 --> 00:47:21.020
But I can give you this beautiful gift
where other people can push and provide

00:47:21.020 --> 00:47:24.600
you with the opportunity to do things
that are so outside of your comfort zone.

00:47:25.140 --> 00:47:26.090
And I'm glad you did it.

00:47:27.135 --> 00:47:29.275
I think that was, I
think that was the right

00:47:29.275 --> 00:47:29.615
Tiffany Bader: move.

00:47:30.155 --> 00:47:33.445
Yeah, no, I, it was, it
was an epic, awesome trip.

00:47:33.515 --> 00:47:34.235
I loved it.

00:47:34.425 --> 00:47:35.305
I loved it so much.

00:47:37.295 --> 00:47:38.585
Travis Bader: Well, should
we try another wing here?

00:47:38.625 --> 00:47:38.945
Yeah.

00:47:39.235 --> 00:47:40.794
So we're on Dabam now.

00:47:41.475 --> 00:47:43.224
Dabam evolution hot sauce.

00:47:43.335 --> 00:47:44.964
Hey, is that water you're drinking?

00:47:45.534 --> 00:47:46.044
Okay.

00:47:46.915 --> 00:47:49.525
So do we sauce our own or
do we sauce each other's?

00:47:49.525 --> 00:47:50.205
I say we sauce

00:47:50.415 --> 00:47:50.475
Tiffany Bader: each other's.

00:47:50.475 --> 00:47:51.814
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:47:51.815 --> 00:47:53.935
I honestly, I put so much on mine.

00:47:53.945 --> 00:47:55.535
It is really, really caked.

00:47:55.575 --> 00:47:57.105
I'm, Jesus Christ.

00:47:58.665 --> 00:48:01.145
Travis Bader: Just a bit, just
a little dab will do you, right?

00:48:01.465 --> 00:48:01.965
There you go.

00:48:03.035 --> 00:48:03.885
Here, I'll sauce it for you.

00:48:04.015 --> 00:48:04.655
Tiffany Bader: No, it's okay.

00:48:06.155 --> 00:48:08.085
Travis Bader: I don't know if the
cameras can actually pick it up.

00:48:08.165 --> 00:48:12.575
Uh, let's see, your head's in the way.

00:48:13.445 --> 00:48:14.064
There it is.

00:48:15.855 --> 00:48:16.594
Did you put any on?

00:48:16.715 --> 00:48:17.214
Yes, I did.

00:48:17.615 --> 00:48:18.075
Okay.

00:48:18.414 --> 00:48:19.155
Look, there's a bunch.

00:48:19.864 --> 00:48:21.075
Okay, here we go.

00:48:21.075 --> 00:48:21.785
Do we ask the question

00:48:21.794 --> 00:48:22.214
Tiffany Bader: first?

00:48:22.905 --> 00:48:24.505
Yeah, because I don't know if I'm gonna.

00:48:24.825 --> 00:48:25.885
Okay, let's do

00:48:25.885 --> 00:48:26.045
Travis Bader: it.

00:48:27.955 --> 00:48:28.945
You ask, I'm gonna eat.

00:48:30.605 --> 00:48:33.285
Tiffany Bader: What is the most
inspiring or life changing piece

00:48:33.285 --> 00:48:34.695
of advice you've ever received?

00:48:36.735 --> 00:48:37.595
Travis Bader: This is hot as hell.

00:48:44.764 --> 00:48:45.295
Tiffany Bader: Oh my god.

00:48:51.054 --> 00:48:51.845
Travis Bader: What flavor do you feel?

00:48:51.845 --> 00:48:53.252
I just feel heat.

00:48:53.252 --> 00:48:54.644
It's spicy.

00:48:57.114 --> 00:48:57.954
Tiffany Bader: Is this really spicy?

00:48:57.954 --> 00:49:00.604
I'm just trying to get
it down before I can't.

00:49:01.215 --> 00:49:01.445
Travis Bader: Okay.

00:49:04.155 --> 00:49:04.825
Oh my god.

00:49:06.785 --> 00:49:07.675
Did you bring the bucket?

00:49:08.115 --> 00:49:08.904
Mm mm.

00:49:09.385 --> 00:49:12.505
Okay, I'm telling you right
now, that's got some heat.

00:49:12.645 --> 00:49:13.059
Mm hmm.

00:49:15.300 --> 00:49:21.790
Remember, uh, Jameel's mom, cooking
up the, um, African food, spicy stuff

00:49:22.210 --> 00:49:23.850
and the endorphins that it releases.

00:49:23.870 --> 00:49:24.110
Yep.

00:49:25.250 --> 00:49:27.340
I can feel, I can feel that coming.

00:49:29.360 --> 00:49:29.660
Okay.

00:49:29.660 --> 00:49:33.749
So my eyes are watering for
those who aren't watching it.

00:49:33.860 --> 00:49:38.049
My face is probably the same
color as, I don't know, same

00:49:38.050 --> 00:49:39.400
color as a hot sauce right now.

00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:41.940
I don't remember what the question

00:49:41.940 --> 00:49:42.260
Tiffany Bader: was.

00:49:43.130 --> 00:49:45.680
That's why I didn't, I crushed
it, but didn't move it.

00:49:47.060 --> 00:49:49.570
What is the most inspiring
or life changing piece of

00:49:49.570 --> 00:49:50.750
advice you've ever received?

00:49:53.940 --> 00:49:56.940
Travis Bader: I've later learned
that Theodore Roosevelt said

00:49:56.940 --> 00:49:58.470
something really similar to this.

00:49:59.375 --> 00:50:03.985
I don't know if the individual knew
that, but essentially nothing in

00:50:03.985 --> 00:50:05.775
life worthwhile ever comes easy.

00:50:06.505 --> 00:50:11.605
And now my eyes are watering
and my, oh, you can feel it all

00:50:11.605 --> 00:50:13.005
the way down into your stomach.

00:50:13.194 --> 00:50:13.214
So

00:50:14.885 --> 00:50:16.254
Tiffany Bader: you should
have eaten a candle.

00:50:18.915 --> 00:50:19.884
Travis Bader: I should
have eaten a candle.

00:50:21.055 --> 00:50:24.124
It would be that nothing
worthwhile in life ever comes easy.

00:50:25.884 --> 00:50:27.054
And when things are getting tough,

00:50:31.304 --> 00:50:32.864
Tiffany Bader: that gulp was like audible.

00:50:33.725 --> 00:50:35.195
Travis Bader: I have the resolve.

00:50:35.500 --> 00:50:38.430
To know this is a beneficial thing.

00:50:38.430 --> 00:50:39.150
This is positive.

00:50:39.330 --> 00:50:39.930
It's tough.

00:50:39.980 --> 00:50:43.840
And I'm going to keep pushing through
because there's going to be something

00:50:43.840 --> 00:50:45.400
so worthwhile at the end of this.

00:50:47.020 --> 00:50:48.020
The eggnog helps.

00:50:48.360 --> 00:50:50.100
I am not touching anything to the end.

00:50:52.749 --> 00:50:53.260
Does it help?

00:50:53.260 --> 00:50:53.970
Or is it worse now?

00:50:54.630 --> 00:50:55.160
Tiffany Bader: It's not worse.

00:50:55.170 --> 00:50:56.699
For like five seconds, it goes away.

00:50:57.720 --> 00:50:58.800
Uh, maybe it does make it worse.

00:51:04.340 --> 00:51:04.560
That's

00:51:04.570 --> 00:51:05.000
Travis Bader: spicy.

00:51:05.120 --> 00:51:05.520
Okay.

00:51:07.290 --> 00:51:07.770
There we go.

00:51:07.830 --> 00:51:08.610
That's da bomb.

00:51:08.620 --> 00:51:10.060
If that's supposed to be the hottest.

00:51:11.270 --> 00:51:13.579
Tiffany Bader: I think it just,
honestly, I think what it does is it

00:51:13.579 --> 00:51:16.139
just like, it's like scorched earth.

00:51:18.390 --> 00:51:18.420
Travis Bader: Okay.

00:51:18.730 --> 00:51:19.220
I think.

00:51:19.280 --> 00:51:19.540
Okay.

00:51:19.540 --> 00:51:20.410
You answer the question.

00:51:21.210 --> 00:51:22.200
Tiffany Bader: Best piece of advice?

00:51:22.220 --> 00:51:22.240
Yeah.

00:51:22.630 --> 00:51:23.250
Um,

00:51:28.630 --> 00:51:29.180
you know what?

00:51:30.240 --> 00:51:37.390
My, my sister, who has been the, uh,
the giver of terrible advice for years,

00:51:38.319 --> 00:51:42.900
actually gave me a really good piece of
advice when I was in my early twenties.

00:51:44.519 --> 00:51:47.680
She's like, don't live with regrets.

00:51:48.090 --> 00:51:49.859
You're, I think I was 20 or 21.

00:51:49.860 --> 00:51:52.010
She's like, don't live with regrets.

00:51:52.595 --> 00:51:56.395
You're living probably the best years
of your life, which that was, that

00:51:56.395 --> 00:52:02.245
wasn't true, but she's like, just
live, she didn't say balls out, but you

00:52:02.245 --> 00:52:04.125
know, basically like live every day.

00:52:04.145 --> 00:52:11.735
Like it's the last, um, and that's kind
of stuck with me for like most of my life.

00:52:12.215 --> 00:52:14.575
Um, I don't know.

00:52:14.654 --> 00:52:17.475
I think she was maybe not in
the best place in her life and

00:52:17.475 --> 00:52:21.315
she wanted me to like appreciate
my early twenties, which I did.

00:52:21.325 --> 00:52:24.455
And it's just kind of, I
haven't gotten out of that.

00:52:24.455 --> 00:52:25.729
And I'm like, now I'm in my, yeah.

00:52:26.010 --> 00:52:28.250
In my super, super late thirties.

00:52:29.840 --> 00:52:35.620
And I just like into my forties,
but I just, yeah, live every day.

00:52:35.620 --> 00:52:36.450
Like it's your last.

00:52:36.460 --> 00:52:37.049
Cause you never

00:52:37.049 --> 00:52:37.329
Travis Bader: know.

00:52:37.370 --> 00:52:38.850
So it wasn't the advice that I gave you.

00:52:39.640 --> 00:52:42.630
No, I mean, like, do you, do you
remember that advice when, uh,

00:52:44.459 --> 00:52:45.789
we're having our first child?

00:52:46.815 --> 00:52:48.055
And there is so much pain.

00:52:48.605 --> 00:52:51.995
And do you remember the advice
advice I gave you, which everyone

00:52:51.995 --> 00:52:53.085
says, what the hell Travis?

00:52:53.085 --> 00:52:53.935
Why would you say that?

00:52:53.935 --> 00:52:56.345
But at the time you said it helped.

00:52:56.885 --> 00:52:58.405
Tiffany Bader: Oh, pretend that I'm my

00:52:58.405 --> 00:52:58.835
Travis Bader: grandma.

00:52:59.105 --> 00:53:00.174
It was two things.

00:53:01.215 --> 00:53:05.294
It was, um, how, how would your
grandma deal with something like this?

00:53:05.325 --> 00:53:11.155
Because he held her in very high regard
and she's done a lot of great things and.

00:53:12.340 --> 00:53:13.520
It's one day of your life.

00:53:13.580 --> 00:53:15.020
How do you want to look
back and remember it?

00:53:15.520 --> 00:53:21.250
Tiffany Bader: Yes, that was
like very, it is hard to speak

00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:22.540
when you can't feel your tongue.

00:53:22.590 --> 00:53:26.539
I'm just going to say that now,
but yeah, honestly telling me

00:53:26.539 --> 00:53:28.440
to live like my grandma, it was.

00:53:29.485 --> 00:53:33.225
It took the birth of our first
child, which was, they'll just

00:53:33.225 --> 00:53:35.305
say, not an enjoyable experience.

00:53:36.895 --> 00:53:37.325
Travis Bader: Tell me about

00:53:37.325 --> 00:53:37.435
Tiffany Bader: it.

00:53:37.475 --> 00:53:40.285
Yeah, I was able to use it for our second.

00:53:41.525 --> 00:53:42.935
And it was completely different.

00:53:42.955 --> 00:53:43.784
It was like night and day.

00:53:44.615 --> 00:53:49.294
Um, I do channel my, I do channel
my grandmother as much as I can.

00:53:49.305 --> 00:53:53.375
Cause like, like you said, I
don't look up to famous people,

00:53:53.615 --> 00:53:55.495
um, cause I don't know them.

00:53:55.555 --> 00:53:57.555
I don't pretend to think that I know them.

00:53:57.675 --> 00:54:01.065
I hold my grandmother in about the
highest regard and my grandfather.

00:54:01.515 --> 00:54:04.225
Um, about as highly as
you can regard anyone.

00:54:04.995 --> 00:54:07.925
So yeah, there's lots of times where
I'm like, what would my grandma think?

00:54:08.235 --> 00:54:09.665
Would I act like this in front of her?

00:54:10.385 --> 00:54:13.085
Um, yeah, that's another one.

00:54:13.475 --> 00:54:15.694
Travis Bader: Well, why don't
we, uh, cap up the bomb?

00:54:15.694 --> 00:54:19.244
Cause I think the fumes from it alone
are, um, causing my eyes to water.

00:54:19.305 --> 00:54:19.735
It's hot.

00:54:20.855 --> 00:54:23.074
We have two more to go and we.

00:54:23.144 --> 00:54:23.414
You're still

00:54:23.414 --> 00:54:25.385
Tiffany Bader: feeling like you
want to keep dabbing all of these?

00:54:26.225 --> 00:54:27.355
Travis Bader: We said it, we do it.

00:54:27.405 --> 00:54:27.795
Yep.

00:54:28.035 --> 00:54:28.615
Okay.

00:54:29.825 --> 00:54:30.365
Whoa.

00:54:30.525 --> 00:54:30.985
Here you go.

00:54:30.985 --> 00:54:35.864
Tiffany Bader: You see
the chilies in this one?

00:54:36.695 --> 00:54:37.724
I never noticed that.

00:54:38.624 --> 00:54:39.554
I did shake it up.

00:54:41.315 --> 00:54:43.344
Travis Bader: Move it away from the other
ones so you don't cross contaminate.

00:54:45.305 --> 00:54:46.705
You don't want to water down the next one.

00:54:47.915 --> 00:54:49.535
Come on, do a proper pour.

00:54:50.075 --> 00:54:50.835
All right.

00:54:50.845 --> 00:54:51.665
That was a really,

00:54:53.695 --> 00:54:54.605
Tiffany Bader: oh man.

00:54:55.105 --> 00:54:55.455
Travis Bader: Okay.

00:54:55.455 --> 00:54:55.815
What do we have?

00:54:56.275 --> 00:54:57.525
This is second from the end.

00:54:58.455 --> 00:55:01.134
638, 000 Scoville.

00:55:02.745 --> 00:55:04.855
Tiffany Bader: I'm going to try to
sniffle away from the microphone.

00:55:05.465 --> 00:55:06.825
I think we asked the question first.

00:55:06.855 --> 00:55:07.115
Okay.

00:55:08.125 --> 00:55:09.364
Are you superstitious?

00:55:10.700 --> 00:55:12.340
Travis Bader: I wouldn't
say I'm superstitious.

00:55:12.590 --> 00:55:15.920
I'd say I'm kind of stitious,
but not superstitious.

00:55:16.010 --> 00:55:16.750
That joke just

00:55:17.680 --> 00:55:18.310
Tiffany Bader: never

00:55:18.360 --> 00:55:18.960
Travis Bader: gets old.

00:55:18.960 --> 00:55:21.340
Okay, finger burning.

00:55:21.380 --> 00:55:22.170
I'm just going to eat this.

00:55:22.170 --> 00:55:22.760
I'm going to answer,

00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:23.100
Tiffany Bader: okay?

00:55:23.269 --> 00:55:23.660
I just,

00:55:39.169 --> 00:55:40.700
Travis Bader: I Alright, all the meat off?

00:55:41.100 --> 00:55:41.440
Yeah.

00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:42.320
Alright.

00:55:43.390 --> 00:55:44.449
My grandpa would be proud.

00:55:45.570 --> 00:55:46.120
Alright.

00:55:49.810 --> 00:55:52.320
I guess it depends on how
you define superstitious.

00:55:52.520 --> 00:55:52.900
Mm hmm.

00:55:53.160 --> 00:55:55.140
And I'm still chewing on this
because there's a lot of heat.

00:55:55.430 --> 00:55:55.920
Mm hmm.

00:55:58.210 --> 00:55:59.680
Taco vibes only, huh?

00:56:00.190 --> 00:56:02.030
Tiffany Bader: I think the,
the bomb was hotter though.

00:56:02.240 --> 00:56:02.620
Travis Bader: Mm hmm.

00:56:04.410 --> 00:56:05.280
This has a flavor.

00:56:06.030 --> 00:56:08.729
I think the bomb, I think
it's my theory from before.

00:56:08.860 --> 00:56:13.945
Where you just wipe out your sensors and
everything afterwards is Eh, whatever.

00:56:14.045 --> 00:56:14.405
Yeah.

00:56:14.555 --> 00:56:16.675
It's like I got a third degree
burn, don't feel anything now.

00:56:19.965 --> 00:56:20.235
Tiffany Bader: So.

00:56:20.345 --> 00:56:20.895
My nerves

00:56:20.895 --> 00:56:21.225
Travis Bader: are gone.

00:56:22.695 --> 00:56:25.514
It's, I'm sweating more though,
whereas I'm not feeling the

00:56:25.514 --> 00:56:26.835
heat in my mouth the same.

00:56:27.025 --> 00:56:28.245
I'm sweating off of this one.

00:56:29.354 --> 00:56:33.885
Um, no, I'm not superstitious, but
it depends on how you define it.

00:56:33.895 --> 00:56:37.214
Like there will be times when things
will happen and I'll say, I've got

00:56:37.214 --> 00:56:40.018
a gut feeling and I'm not doing it.

00:56:40.018 --> 00:56:45.605
I know, uh, Jamie Flynn from a
podcast, he did, he's a base jumper

00:56:45.605 --> 00:56:50.055
and horrific injuries off of a,
excuse me, off a jump he did.

00:56:50.055 --> 00:56:51.910
Um, He says, I got the rule of three.

00:56:51.910 --> 00:56:52.910
He says, there's three things.

00:56:52.910 --> 00:56:55.490
My alarm doesn't wake me up on
time or somebody cuts me off in

00:56:55.490 --> 00:56:58.050
traffic or I get this weird feeling.

00:56:58.745 --> 00:57:00.645
I counted up, if there's
three, I don't jump.

00:57:02.065 --> 00:57:03.045
Is that superstitious?

00:57:03.125 --> 00:57:08.365
Maybe, or maybe it's being in tune to
your natural environment, not being

00:57:08.365 --> 00:57:13.605
able to, uh, quantify it, rationalize
it and say, I feel this way because,

00:57:15.065 --> 00:57:19.254
because I think we get those feelings
much faster than we're able to actually

00:57:19.405 --> 00:57:21.225
qualify why we have those feelings.

00:57:21.565 --> 00:57:23.235
So I've really learned to trust my gut.

00:57:23.475 --> 00:57:28.385
And if my gut says, not feeling it because
there's been so many occasions that I've.

00:57:28.875 --> 00:57:33.705
Just not trusted the gut, I found
myself in a world of hurt where

00:57:33.735 --> 00:57:38.414
it could have easily been avoided,
luckily get out, survive, I'm alive.

00:57:38.415 --> 00:57:39.155
Everything's good.

00:57:40.275 --> 00:57:44.035
But that's been a, uh,
the learning process.

00:57:44.035 --> 00:57:45.234
I wouldn't call it superstitious.

00:57:45.245 --> 00:57:46.804
I call it trusting my gut.

00:57:47.565 --> 00:57:47.595
Okay.

00:57:50.470 --> 00:57:55.120
Tiffany Bader: Um, I used to be like
to the point where like every night

00:57:55.190 --> 00:57:58.190
before bed, I, I'd like knock on wood.

00:57:58.460 --> 00:58:00.320
And if there wasn't something
wood, I'd knock on my head.

00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:01.500
Travis Bader: That's OCD.

00:58:01.530 --> 00:58:02.509
That's not superstitious.

00:58:02.710 --> 00:58:03.030
Okay.

00:58:03.030 --> 00:58:03.160
So

00:58:03.160 --> 00:58:07.730
Tiffany Bader: maybe maybe I'm a
little superstitious or maybe I'm

00:58:07.780 --> 00:58:14.440
OCD that, uh, yeah, I, I mean,
OCD to like put on one sock.

00:58:15.035 --> 00:58:17.585
Like your left sock before your
right sock before a soccer game

00:58:17.585 --> 00:58:18.565
and like eat the same lunch.

00:58:18.565 --> 00:58:19.165
Is that, that's

00:58:19.175 --> 00:58:19.815
Travis Bader: OCD?

00:58:19.815 --> 00:58:20.655
Why don't we ask the audience?

00:58:20.655 --> 00:58:21.495
Is that OCD?

00:58:21.565 --> 00:58:21.945
Yeah.

00:58:22.035 --> 00:58:22.475
Hold on.

00:58:22.525 --> 00:58:23.005
I can hear him.

00:58:23.885 --> 00:58:24.265
I can hear him.

00:58:25.755 --> 00:58:26.344
Yes, Tiffany.

00:58:26.345 --> 00:58:26.665
That's OCD.

00:58:26.745 --> 00:58:27.125
Okay.

00:58:27.314 --> 00:58:29.115
Tiffany Bader: So superstitious.

00:58:29.425 --> 00:58:29.825
No.

00:58:29.885 --> 00:58:33.825
And like with you, oh, my
nose is starting to run now.

00:58:34.044 --> 00:58:35.145
Um, yeah.

00:58:36.600 --> 00:58:39.520
Yeah, I just, I, I trust my gut
because like you said, like there's,

00:58:40.580 --> 00:58:45.430
like you, you walk past and like,
you know, there's signs and there's

00:58:45.430 --> 00:58:46.500
signs and you just ignore them.

00:58:46.519 --> 00:58:49.340
I think we're just, we trust
ourselves a little bit better.

00:58:49.890 --> 00:58:51.449
We trust our gut a little bit better.

00:58:52.070 --> 00:58:58.219
I trust you as well, which is good
because, dear God, when we were

00:58:58.220 --> 00:59:01.510
first dating and you'd be like,
yeah, no, I don't like that guy.

00:59:01.520 --> 00:59:02.540
He's going to cheat on his wife.

00:59:02.740 --> 00:59:04.360
I was like, you're crazy.

00:59:04.380 --> 00:59:08.260
And then, And every single
time that happens, you're

00:59:08.260 --> 00:59:09.560
like, oh, this person, this.

00:59:09.950 --> 00:59:12.410
And you're not judgmental,
but you're very good at, at.

00:59:13.080 --> 00:59:14.150
It's an ADHD trait.

00:59:14.160 --> 00:59:14.400
Yeah.

00:59:14.400 --> 00:59:15.640
You're good at sizing people up.

00:59:16.510 --> 00:59:21.180
Dinner party go and you
would just size people up.

00:59:21.460 --> 00:59:23.499
And it's always true.

00:59:24.480 --> 00:59:27.459
You have, you have a very good radar for
people that are going to cheat on their

00:59:27.459 --> 00:59:29.049
spouse because that's happened to me.

00:59:30.369 --> 00:59:31.079
We've seen that a few times.

00:59:31.500 --> 00:59:33.470
It's a sad, sad, you know.

00:59:34.165 --> 00:59:36.375
Sad of skill, but it's when you have.

00:59:36.915 --> 00:59:39.495
Travis Bader: Well, I think it's just
about seeing if somebody is going to

00:59:39.495 --> 00:59:45.135
be honest or trustworthy and, you know,
you can only get, uh, taken advantage

00:59:45.135 --> 00:59:48.895
of or lied to or whatever so many
times before you start seeing patterns

00:59:48.895 --> 00:59:52.405
that reoccur and they say it's an ADHD
thing, being able to pick up on these

00:59:52.405 --> 00:59:56.665
little traits, whether it's verbal,
non verbal, paraverbal, whatever it

00:59:56.705 --> 00:59:58.195
might be that you're picking up on.

00:59:58.315 --> 00:59:58.585
Yeah.

00:59:58.920 --> 01:00:01.760
I stopped trying to
rationalize and suss it out.

01:00:02.060 --> 01:00:05.950
Part of me wonders sometimes if it just
becomes a self fulfilling prophecy,

01:00:06.150 --> 01:00:09.240
because if we're living in a matrix
and we're creating our own realities

01:00:09.240 --> 01:00:11.810
and I'm like, this is going to happen
here and that's going to happen here,

01:00:12.070 --> 01:00:15.270
like scarily so that happens, am I?

01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:18.570
Are we just so in tune with what's
going on around us that we can

01:00:18.570 --> 01:00:23.580
make those presuppositions, or
are we somehow putting that energy

01:00:23.580 --> 01:00:24.740
out there and making it happen?

01:00:25.110 --> 01:00:27.920
I don't know, but whatever the
end result is, it turns out

01:00:28.870 --> 01:00:31.760
basically how, how it's getting
called, so I'll just stick with it.

01:00:32.290 --> 01:00:35.510
Tiffany Bader: Yeah, I, I I don't know.

01:00:35.540 --> 01:00:39.630
I think in a couple of cases where
you've like called things, you're

01:00:39.630 --> 01:00:44.540
not living a life so connected with
these people or situations where

01:00:44.540 --> 01:00:49.380
like you're actively like making it
happen, they're pretty disconnected.

01:00:50.970 --> 01:00:51.280
Yeah.

01:00:51.640 --> 01:00:52.010
I don't know.

01:00:52.230 --> 01:00:52.840
I think you're just.

01:00:53.340 --> 01:00:57.120
Travis Bader: Unless we subscribe to the,
we are all connected at the cosmic level.

01:00:57.390 --> 01:00:58.790
Tiffany Bader: Well, which
I totally agree with.

01:01:00.930 --> 01:01:01.370
Travis Bader: Okay.

01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:03.410
So do we want, do

01:01:03.410 --> 01:01:05.490
Tiffany Bader: we want to do one more
question in between the next one?

01:01:05.915 --> 01:01:07.725
Travis Bader: Before, how
many questions we got left?

01:01:07.805 --> 01:01:08.065
I don't know.

01:01:08.275 --> 01:01:08.995
Tiffany Bader: Yeah, let's do it.

01:01:09.645 --> 01:01:11.945
Um, just give our, our mouth
a little bit of a break.

01:01:11.975 --> 01:01:12.165
Yeah.

01:01:12.165 --> 01:01:12.615
Okay.

01:01:13.815 --> 01:01:15.635
Travis Bader: And for the
record, I have had no water.

01:01:16.045 --> 01:01:16.995
I've had no eggnog.

01:01:17.045 --> 01:01:18.575
My belly is on fire.

01:01:20.855 --> 01:01:23.745
Tiffany Bader: Do you want me to tell
everyone what I've, I've been putting

01:01:23.745 --> 01:01:25.195
ChapStick on after I've been weighing.

01:01:25.715 --> 01:01:28.575
I drank a bunch of water
and I've also had eggnog.

01:01:30.435 --> 01:01:31.835
Travis Bader: A little bit of my
water, because I think your water

01:01:31.835 --> 01:01:33.015
is actually empty now, isn't it?

01:01:33.155 --> 01:01:33.835
No, no, no,

01:01:33.845 --> 01:01:35.675
Tiffany Bader: I don't actually
want water anymore because

01:01:35.675 --> 01:01:36.537
it's going to make it worse.

01:01:36.537 --> 01:01:38.675
Travis Bader: It does make
it worse and I'm just looking

01:01:38.675 --> 01:01:39.575
forward to watching the show.

01:01:39.835 --> 01:01:42.745
Tiffany Bader: Once, once the
heat subsides of it, the eggnog

01:01:42.745 --> 01:01:43.655
actually does make it better.

01:01:44.265 --> 01:01:44.955
What's the next question?

01:01:45.285 --> 01:01:47.825
Um, have you ever seen a ghost?

01:01:48.605 --> 01:01:53.245
Um, I ask because I've slept in
the basement of your family home

01:01:53.245 --> 01:01:58.175
when I was a teenager and it's
definitely got a ghosty vibe to it.

01:01:58.835 --> 01:02:02.765
It's like, if there ever was a
house that was haunted, I think,

01:02:03.435 --> 01:02:04.685
I think that one's on the list.

01:02:05.485 --> 01:02:05.675
Have you

01:02:05.675 --> 01:02:06.755
Travis Bader: ever seen a ghost?

01:02:07.075 --> 01:02:10.325
Well, there's a couple of things
that happened that I can't explain.

01:02:10.335 --> 01:02:12.345
And I'll, I'll back you a
thousand percent on that.

01:02:12.345 --> 01:02:13.235
That house was haunted.

01:02:13.245 --> 01:02:14.295
There is something going on.

01:02:14.305 --> 01:02:21.015
There is some bad energy going
enough, enough bad energy that

01:02:21.595 --> 01:02:25.325
people would come in who didn't
even know us would say it feels off.

01:02:25.375 --> 01:02:26.545
There's something not right here.

01:02:27.285 --> 01:02:32.615
Uh, man, I was terrified of my downstairs
when I was a kid, probably a common thing.

01:02:32.615 --> 01:02:36.225
Cause I've seen these Tik Toks where
people are running up the stairs

01:02:36.225 --> 01:02:38.715
and there's someone dressed all
in black running up behind them.

01:02:39.795 --> 01:02:43.615
Turning the lights off and, you know,
there's times when lights to turn back on.

01:02:44.925 --> 01:02:47.035
It's not a supernatural event.

01:02:47.035 --> 01:02:48.865
It maybe just didn't turn it off properly.

01:02:48.865 --> 01:02:49.885
It got stuck halfway.

01:02:50.615 --> 01:02:51.235
Um.

01:02:52.665 --> 01:02:57.175
I remember as a young child waking up
in the middle of the night and at the

01:02:57.175 --> 01:03:01.805
foot of my bed on the left hand side,
on the, just right near the end of the

01:03:01.805 --> 01:03:05.765
left hand side, I wake up and I look, I'm
like, Oh, what's my mom doing in here?

01:03:05.775 --> 01:03:06.115
Right.

01:03:06.405 --> 01:03:09.265
I started calling out to her, like,
well, what are you doing here?

01:03:09.835 --> 01:03:14.135
And this really old haggard
woman looks back at me and says,

01:03:14.145 --> 01:03:16.955
back to sleep, go back to sleep.

01:03:17.415 --> 01:03:19.705
And it scared the crap out of me.

01:03:19.725 --> 01:03:21.405
And I hid under my blankets.

01:03:21.405 --> 01:03:22.195
I'm like, just go away.

01:03:22.195 --> 01:03:22.795
Just go away.

01:03:22.795 --> 01:03:23.385
Just go away.

01:03:23.385 --> 01:03:24.065
Just go away.

01:03:25.340 --> 01:03:28.650
And I asked my mom about it in the morning
and she says, no, I wasn't in your room.

01:03:29.410 --> 01:03:30.610
So was I dreaming that?

01:03:31.740 --> 01:03:33.130
Probably right.

01:03:33.450 --> 01:03:35.700
It was a hyper realistic dream.

01:03:35.700 --> 01:03:39.200
I've Googled it and they have a thing
about the old hag at the end of the

01:03:39.200 --> 01:03:43.210
bed, but it's usually to do with, uh,
or old hag kneeling on your chest.

01:03:43.370 --> 01:03:48.210
Funny that it's always an old hag,
um, to do with like, uh, sleep

01:03:48.240 --> 01:03:50.330
asphyxiation or something like this.

01:03:50.620 --> 01:03:50.910
Yeah.

01:03:50.910 --> 01:03:52.900
People who stop breathing
or sleep paralysis.

01:03:52.900 --> 01:03:53.450
That's what it was.

01:03:53.460 --> 01:03:56.230
Sleep paralysis where you're
awake, but you're can't move.

01:03:56.390 --> 01:03:59.280
Well, I could move and I was talking.

01:03:59.680 --> 01:04:00.710
So was that a ghost?

01:04:00.710 --> 01:04:02.050
Was it my imagination?

01:04:02.230 --> 01:04:03.970
Cause I've always had a good imagination.

01:04:05.190 --> 01:04:05.840
I don't know.

01:04:06.580 --> 01:04:11.270
I do remember one other occasion in
that same house, I wasn't feeling well,

01:04:11.290 --> 01:04:13.350
didn't want to go to karate practice.

01:04:14.330 --> 01:04:15.560
Dad's at work.

01:04:16.100 --> 01:04:20.280
My mom's, my younger brother,
I have a younger brother yet.

01:04:20.290 --> 01:04:21.720
He was, he was seven years younger.

01:04:22.270 --> 01:04:28.810
Um, probably anyways, um, takes my
older brother off to karate practice

01:04:28.810 --> 01:04:30.710
as you're not allowed out of your room.

01:04:30.830 --> 01:04:33.250
You stay in your room for whatever reason.

01:04:33.350 --> 01:04:34.340
There's a bucket in there.

01:04:34.400 --> 01:04:36.560
You use that bucket and
you don't get out, right?

01:04:37.280 --> 01:04:37.740
Okay.

01:04:38.830 --> 01:04:45.160
So, um, anyways, then I hear, hear
her come home, vehicle comes in.

01:04:45.560 --> 01:04:45.940
Okay.

01:04:45.940 --> 01:04:46.750
I'm that's her.

01:04:46.750 --> 01:04:48.590
And then I hear in the kitchen.

01:04:48.590 --> 01:04:50.090
I'm like, man, I really want to come out.

01:04:50.090 --> 01:04:51.060
I gotta go to the washroom.

01:04:51.060 --> 01:04:54.440
And so I'm yelling, I'm like, I'm
not, I'm not supposed to come out.

01:04:54.740 --> 01:04:55.190
Promised.

01:04:55.190 --> 01:04:57.370
I wouldn't mom, mom, can I come out?

01:04:57.390 --> 01:04:58.430
Mom, can I come out?

01:04:59.470 --> 01:05:00.260
And.

01:05:00.635 --> 01:05:01.115
Nothing.

01:05:02.065 --> 01:05:07.035
So I walk into the kitchen, I'm going
down the hallway and as I'm walking and

01:05:07.035 --> 01:05:11.975
I'm calling it out, I hear someone and
I see something just around the corner.

01:05:12.055 --> 01:05:13.885
You know, you should see
something move around the corner.

01:05:14.315 --> 01:05:16.205
There's three steps to
go down to the playroom.

01:05:16.205 --> 01:05:18.695
And then the flight of steps that
goes downstairs and I heard a thump,

01:05:18.805 --> 01:05:21.155
thump, thump, thump, thump, thump,
go all the way down the stairs

01:05:21.995 --> 01:05:24.125
and I'm like, what the hell mom.

01:05:24.495 --> 01:05:28.505
And it was just a short flash
of a shadow that I, that I saw.

01:05:29.175 --> 01:05:32.325
I walked to the end of the kitchen,
looking out through the playroom into

01:05:32.325 --> 01:05:34.355
the driveway and there's no car there.

01:05:35.345 --> 01:05:36.175
What the hell?

01:05:36.435 --> 01:05:39.085
So I come back in the kitchen, I
grabbed the biggest knife I can find.

01:05:39.880 --> 01:05:41.480
And I started yelling out, I got a knife.

01:05:41.630 --> 01:05:42.550
I got a knife.

01:05:42.710 --> 01:05:44.950
And I go into my bedroom.

01:05:44.950 --> 01:05:48.620
And at that time I thought, well,
probably she'd get out of here.

01:05:48.620 --> 01:05:53.230
So I jumped out my window, uh, brought
my skateboard with me and I was, my

01:05:53.240 --> 01:05:56.480
mom came home to me in my pajamas.

01:05:56.700 --> 01:05:59.260
With my skateboard with the
largest kitchen knife that we

01:05:59.260 --> 01:06:00.610
had at the end of the driveway.

01:06:00.610 --> 01:06:03.790
Cause my thinking was like, I don't
know where to go, but if someone

01:06:03.850 --> 01:06:07.200
comes out of the house, if something
comes, I'm going to skate away faster

01:06:07.200 --> 01:06:08.240
than they'll be able to come up.

01:06:08.910 --> 01:06:11.020
And so, yeah, caught
some heat for that one.

01:06:11.020 --> 01:06:12.440
What the hell are you doing out here?

01:06:12.440 --> 01:06:15.490
All the neighbors can see in your
pajamas with this knife and skateboard.

01:06:16.100 --> 01:06:22.120
Have I seen a ghost, um, or were we
subject to a B and E at the time?

01:06:22.120 --> 01:06:22.880
Did I interrupt that?

01:06:22.880 --> 01:06:23.850
Yeah, I've always kind
of wondered with that.

01:06:24.060 --> 01:06:24.400
Right.

01:06:24.470 --> 01:06:30.050
Or did I just have an imagination
that was so damn vivid?

01:06:30.680 --> 01:06:31.080
I don't know.

01:06:31.590 --> 01:06:31.940
How about you?

01:06:31.990 --> 01:06:32.920
You ever seen a ghost?

01:06:33.860 --> 01:06:37.410
Tiffany Bader: No, there's been multiple
situations where people around me have

01:06:37.410 --> 01:06:41.230
like woken up in the middle of the
night to give me messages from people.

01:06:41.550 --> 01:06:41.890
Mm.

01:06:42.020 --> 01:06:46.290
Uh, that were either, uh, in
trouble or had passed away.

01:06:47.460 --> 01:06:51.810
Um, so I, I believe, like,
when I was younger, I used to

01:06:51.810 --> 01:06:54.900
believe that, um, I didn't know.

01:06:55.390 --> 01:07:00.290
And so I would hedge my bets and I
would tell the ghosts that I believed

01:07:00.290 --> 01:07:01.650
in them so they wouldn't haunt me.

01:07:02.210 --> 01:07:07.020
But I don't, like, and I would
just kind of leave it at that.

01:07:07.180 --> 01:07:10.560
And I feel like that may have
worked because now, like, there's

01:07:10.560 --> 01:07:13.920
been situations where potential.

01:07:13.920 --> 01:07:14.170
Mm.

01:07:14.440 --> 01:07:17.830
Ghosts have, have communicated
with the people around me.

01:07:18.490 --> 01:07:26.130
Um, maybe I'm just not receptive to,
to being visited by different realms.

01:07:26.130 --> 01:07:26.890
I don't know.

01:07:26.940 --> 01:07:27.070
So

01:07:27.260 --> 01:07:28.930
Travis Bader: I think it's like gut
feeling thing though, too, right?

01:07:29.010 --> 01:07:32.060
Like, what, is that a ghost or is it
that people are just picking up or an

01:07:32.060 --> 01:07:35.030
in tune with things that are happening
around them that you just can't quantify?

01:07:35.610 --> 01:07:35.920
Tiffany Bader: Yeah.

01:07:35.950 --> 01:07:39.820
I mean, I, yeah, I think, I think
there's so much we don't understand.

01:07:40.700 --> 01:07:46.060
Um, I mean, I think the people
around me in my life are a lot more.

01:07:47.175 --> 01:07:49.885
Sensitive and intuitive than I am.

01:07:49.895 --> 01:07:50.215
So

01:07:50.965 --> 01:07:52.145
Travis Bader: you're
feeling the endorphins, eh?

01:07:52.265 --> 01:07:52.585
I am.

01:07:52.585 --> 01:07:52.895
Yeah.

01:07:53.135 --> 01:07:53.875
Do you want to try one more?

01:07:53.915 --> 01:07:54.215
Yeah.

01:07:54.395 --> 01:07:54.845
Okay.

01:07:55.335 --> 01:07:58.225
So this is the last stab Apollo.

01:07:58.435 --> 01:07:58.465
Okay.

01:07:58.465 --> 01:08:01.855
Googled it because on the back
on this thing in here, it says

01:08:02.635 --> 01:08:06.385
number 10, hot ones, last stab
Apollo to be announced Scoville.

01:08:06.835 --> 01:08:10.495
So one thing I found out on Google,
it was between like 2 million,

01:08:10.515 --> 01:08:13.284
uh, 22 million, yeah, 22, 2.

01:08:14.065 --> 01:08:17.565
2 million, I think is about
what the Scoville's on this guy.

01:08:18.010 --> 01:08:21.590
We're going to dab it up, the last dab.

01:08:22.410 --> 01:08:24.620
We still have three questions.

01:08:25.380 --> 01:08:26.610
Okay, well let's ask another one.

01:08:27.710 --> 01:08:29.970
And, that's not a dab, is it?

01:08:30.450 --> 01:08:33.530
Tiffany Bader: No, Travis,
that is like, way more than

01:08:33.530 --> 01:08:34.660
other people put on the show.

01:08:36.140 --> 01:08:37.830
Travis Bader: Okay, well
I'm into it now, I guess.

01:08:38.070 --> 01:08:39.190
Go ahead, you want to match?

01:08:42.190 --> 01:08:43.350
Feats of strength.

01:08:46.240 --> 01:08:51.940
Okay, we'll do the question,
we'll melt her face off.

01:08:52.010 --> 01:08:54.640
Are you not entertained?

01:08:56.570 --> 01:08:59.879
Tiffany Bader: This better be
the highest podcast rank ever.

01:08:59.960 --> 01:09:00.660
I'm just joking.

01:09:01.280 --> 01:09:01.590
Travis Bader: Okay.

01:09:01.690 --> 01:09:02.210
What is it?

01:09:02.360 --> 01:09:02.510
Tiffany Bader: Okay.

01:09:03.430 --> 01:09:05.750
Question is, and I think this
one's telling, I, I picked

01:09:05.750 --> 01:09:06.530
through the other ones.

01:09:06.650 --> 01:09:08.660
Uh, what is the most
scared you've ever been?

01:09:10.300 --> 01:09:12.280
I can tell you, it's not right now.

01:09:13.310 --> 01:09:14.090
Travis Bader: Most scared?

01:09:14.150 --> 01:09:15.020
I don't get scared.

01:09:15.020 --> 01:09:16.040
What are you talking about?

01:09:16.480 --> 01:09:16.890
Yeah.

01:09:17.330 --> 01:09:22.210
Um, I'm kind of scared right now to eat
this hot wing to tell you the truth.

01:09:22.280 --> 01:09:23.160
Tiffany Bader: I'm scared right now.

01:09:23.540 --> 01:09:26.460
This is like, a stupid amount
of hot sauce to put on this.

01:09:27.820 --> 01:09:28.540
Travis Bader: Did you scrape some off?

01:09:28.600 --> 01:09:29.270
No, I didn't.

01:09:29.280 --> 01:09:30.270
Do the cameras pick it up?

01:09:30.270 --> 01:09:32.990
Look at, I saw you tapping yours.

01:09:33.030 --> 01:09:34.670
Tiffany Bader: No, but
there's, there's none that

01:09:34.670 --> 01:09:35.280
Travis Bader: I knocked off.

01:09:36.940 --> 01:09:37.570
Here we go.

01:09:37.570 --> 01:09:39.370
3, 2, 1.

01:09:46.380 --> 01:09:47.420
All I taste is heat.

01:09:53.340 --> 01:09:54.340
You didn't spit it out, did you?

01:09:54.440 --> 01:09:54.580
No.

01:09:57.100 --> 01:09:57.480
Okay.

01:09:57.780 --> 01:09:58.380
That's hot.

01:09:58.500 --> 01:09:58.860
Mm hmm.

01:10:01.610 --> 01:10:02.560
Most scared I've been.

01:10:05.620 --> 01:10:07.010
Probably around 2007.

01:10:10.130 --> 01:10:11.090
All over my face.

01:10:11.200 --> 01:10:12.320
You got some chicken wing in your beard.

01:10:16.680 --> 01:10:17.390
You feeling that?

01:10:19.630 --> 01:10:19.700
It's hot.

01:10:19.880 --> 01:10:20.400
You okay?

01:10:20.600 --> 01:10:20.680
Yeah.

01:10:20.940 --> 01:10:21.330
Okay.

01:10:21.930 --> 01:10:22.690
Yeah, that'd be it.

01:10:24.875 --> 01:10:28.715
Yeah, that was, uh, I guess for people
listen, who don't know, cause I did

01:10:28.715 --> 01:10:35.295
talk about it once on the podcast
before we had a midwife and, uh, uh,

01:10:35.725 --> 01:10:38.965
hospital birth and the midwife is
in there and, you know, doing the

01:10:38.965 --> 01:10:40.385
midwife thing, everything's normal.

01:10:40.385 --> 01:10:41.045
This is fine.

01:10:41.045 --> 01:10:41.855
This is good.

01:10:42.605 --> 01:10:47.525
Nurses are coming in, you know, as
a husband in there, really, you're,

01:10:47.625 --> 01:10:51.155
you're just, you're Superfluous to
the whole ordeal and supplier of

01:10:51.155 --> 01:10:52.965
ice chips and back rubs, basically.

01:10:52.975 --> 01:10:53.315
Yes.

01:10:54.285 --> 01:10:58.935
And you keep looking to me
for, because you're in so much

01:10:58.955 --> 01:11:00.665
pain, like, what would you do?

01:11:00.775 --> 01:11:05.025
I'm like, I don't know, like,
from my objective position outside

01:11:05.025 --> 01:11:06.065
here, not feeling the pain.

01:11:06.065 --> 01:11:07.195
Here's some things I see.

01:11:08.315 --> 01:11:10.855
But of course, the doctors and nurses
are like, Nope, it's got to come

01:11:10.855 --> 01:11:12.295
from you, which you can see the.

01:11:12.840 --> 01:11:13.890
The reasoning for that.

01:11:13.930 --> 01:11:14.250
Yeah.

01:11:15.970 --> 01:11:16.710
Tiffany Bader: Like, I
haven't done it before.

01:11:16.710 --> 01:11:17.260
I don't know.

01:11:17.460 --> 01:11:17.740
Travis Bader: Right.

01:11:18.530 --> 01:11:18.810
Yeah.

01:11:18.970 --> 01:11:20.030
Brand new for all of us.

01:11:20.450 --> 01:11:21.640
But that was long.

01:11:21.820 --> 01:11:24.730
So we're into day two,
basically, of labor.

01:11:25.180 --> 01:11:25.460
Yeah.

01:11:25.580 --> 01:11:29.390
And, um, they say, well, hey,
do you want to, do you want

01:11:29.390 --> 01:11:30.980
to call in a, uh, an expert?

01:11:30.990 --> 01:11:32.990
We got a obstetrician we can call in.

01:11:34.480 --> 01:11:37.010
I'm like, yes, definitely
let's call the person in.

01:11:37.010 --> 01:11:37.270
Right?

01:11:37.270 --> 01:11:39.860
Like this is, things are obviously
not going the way they're

01:11:39.860 --> 01:11:41.140
supposed to be doing the one.

01:11:41.710 --> 01:11:42.450
No, no, no, sir.

01:11:42.450 --> 01:11:43.260
It's not your decision.

01:11:43.260 --> 01:11:44.190
It's gotta be your decision.

01:11:44.190 --> 01:11:47.720
You look at them like, yes,
you gotta call them in.

01:11:47.720 --> 01:11:49.400
And so they're, they're
dragging their feet.

01:11:49.400 --> 01:11:52.210
And I said, look at, if we have to,
I'll pay the person for their time.

01:11:52.220 --> 01:11:54.860
Like, cause I said, well, what if you
give birth and they're on their way over?

01:11:55.290 --> 01:11:56.590
So we'll then send them home.

01:11:56.700 --> 01:11:57.110
Right?

01:11:58.040 --> 01:12:01.580
Anyways, person ends up
coming a British woman.

01:12:01.930 --> 01:12:06.620
Um, Who had her helper with
her, really professional.

01:12:07.120 --> 01:12:10.200
And she comes on in and she's
got the helper and more and

01:12:10.200 --> 01:12:11.520
more nurses are coming in.

01:12:11.520 --> 01:12:20.180
And a lot of people on standby and,
um, said, well, let's get suction cups.

01:12:20.180 --> 01:12:23.450
We get forceps, we're doing this and
they're working at it, working at it.

01:12:23.450 --> 01:12:26.430
And like, Oh, I think the
umbilical cord is wrapped.

01:12:26.570 --> 01:12:29.720
We'll just cut the umbilical
cord and then we'll, uh.

01:12:30.210 --> 01:12:31.470
Everything will go smooth sailing.

01:12:31.470 --> 01:12:35.110
Well, they cut the umbilical cord and
everything was not smooth sailing.

01:12:35.970 --> 01:12:42.990
So in the same way, when you look to
other people, when you're self arresting

01:12:42.990 --> 01:12:45.540
on the mountain, you're like, Oh, well,
maybe there's something wrong here.

01:12:45.900 --> 01:12:48.730
When people keep saying everything's
fine, everything's fine.

01:12:49.425 --> 01:12:51.775
And all of a sudden they just
go to threat level at midnight.

01:12:51.965 --> 01:12:54.575
Like they just go right through
the roof and everyone's panicking,

01:12:55.385 --> 01:12:56.675
you know, that things aren't fine.

01:12:57.745 --> 01:13:04.195
And the, uh, the obstetrician looks
over their helper and there's a

01:13:04.195 --> 01:13:06.885
heightened level of, uh, urgency.

01:13:07.180 --> 01:13:09.840
And she says, get on the
belly, start pressing.

01:13:09.840 --> 01:13:10.030
Right.

01:13:10.030 --> 01:13:12.340
And the helper is doing something else.

01:13:12.340 --> 01:13:15.540
And she looks at her, helps me get
on the belly and start pressing.

01:13:15.550 --> 01:13:21.730
And the helper looks at her with just this
look of indignant, just puts both of her

01:13:21.730 --> 01:13:23.570
hands at her side, like a petulant child.

01:13:23.570 --> 01:13:25.080
And like, all right.

01:13:25.900 --> 01:13:28.570
And the obstetrician looks
at her and looks at me.

01:13:29.510 --> 01:13:31.010
I'm like, okay, where do I go?

01:13:31.010 --> 01:13:32.290
And she's like, you get in here.

01:13:32.310 --> 01:13:34.040
Like this, her helper is doing nothing.

01:13:34.130 --> 01:13:36.780
So push on the belly, see
if we can get her out.

01:13:37.040 --> 01:13:41.830
So I got my forearm on your belly and
I'm trying to squeeze out our daughter.

01:13:41.830 --> 01:13:42.800
Didn't know it was a daughter at the time.

01:13:42.810 --> 01:13:44.470
Daughter, like a tube of toothpaste.

01:13:44.810 --> 01:13:45.390
And, uh,

01:13:46.840 --> 01:13:49.790
Tiffany Bader: Cause at this point I'd
been, I'd been pushing, like pushing

01:13:50.250 --> 01:13:55.610
for 10, 10, 12 hours, something like
that, which is, yeah, which is apparent.

01:13:55.650 --> 01:13:56.900
I found it later is actually like.

01:13:57.550 --> 01:14:00.520
It kind of a stupid amount of
time to literally be pushing.

01:14:00.730 --> 01:14:01.080
Right.

01:14:01.170 --> 01:14:03.880
And so I was, I was like, I've
never been so tired in my life.

01:14:04.460 --> 01:14:07.370
Travis Bader: So there I am
squeezing it out and they're doing,

01:14:07.860 --> 01:14:16.670
anyway, and eventually after a
long time out comes our daughter.

01:14:17.445 --> 01:14:20.565
And they're panicking, child's
out, they're running over with it.

01:14:20.845 --> 01:14:24.075
They now have another fellow in
that they called in and, uh, later

01:14:24.075 --> 01:14:28.585
learned this guy's only called in
for dealing with families, with, uh,

01:14:28.875 --> 01:14:31.945
birthing that doesn't go properly,
trauma birth, whatever it might be.

01:14:32.815 --> 01:14:36.405
And I remember looking at
you and like, did I do it?

01:14:36.415 --> 01:14:36.945
Did I do it?

01:14:36.945 --> 01:14:37.615
You're asking.

01:14:37.615 --> 01:14:38.595
I'm like, Oh, it's great.

01:14:38.595 --> 01:14:40.045
We had a beautiful baby daughter.

01:14:40.685 --> 01:14:43.625
And knowing in my heart that
I was lying through my teeth.

01:14:44.350 --> 01:14:51.820
And because I, I didn't think she
was alive after a long time, we

01:14:51.820 --> 01:14:56.220
heard her cry and I'm like, Oh
my God, thank God she's alive.

01:14:56.610 --> 01:15:00.290
And then in my head I was
like, Oh damn, she's alive.

01:15:00.300 --> 01:15:02.330
Like that was a long time without oxygen.

01:15:02.480 --> 01:15:03.680
Is she going to be okay?

01:15:04.870 --> 01:15:06.040
Everything turned out okay.

01:15:07.030 --> 01:15:11.600
But I'd say that would be the time that
I was scared, most scared in my life.

01:15:12.660 --> 01:15:17.460
Tiffany Bader: And that, that story is
why I would want you on a desert island

01:15:17.460 --> 01:15:23.100
with me because you tell this story
and I had no idea, years later, like I

01:15:23.140 --> 01:15:26.340
remember when we went to go see the St.

01:15:26.340 --> 01:15:32.830
Midwife again a year and a half later
and she's like, what are you doing here?

01:15:33.150 --> 01:15:34.540
She's like, she was flabbergasted.

01:15:34.540 --> 01:15:36.520
She's like, why are you pregnant?

01:15:37.075 --> 01:15:38.065
You want to have another baby?

01:15:38.065 --> 01:15:41.345
Like, didn't, didn't the last
experience, like, terrify you enough

01:15:41.345 --> 01:15:42.405
to never want to do this again?

01:15:43.035 --> 01:15:44.715
But I still, at that point, I didn't know.

01:15:44.715 --> 01:15:46.135
You'd never told me.

01:15:46.195 --> 01:15:52.385
Only, it was years later when you told me
the situation and, and how it, how it was.

01:15:53.295 --> 01:15:57.575
You were, yeah, you were just
there and unflappable and,

01:15:58.315 --> 01:16:00.855
and I was, I need Ice chips.

01:16:01.445 --> 01:16:02.865
And, yeah, I like, yeah.

01:16:03.035 --> 01:16:03.475
So what's, what

01:16:03.475 --> 01:16:04.085
Travis Bader: scared you then?

01:16:06.105 --> 01:16:08.965
Tiffany Bader: So, uh, my, it wasn't, it
wasn't that day, because I didn't know.

01:16:08.965 --> 01:16:09.695
I didn't realize.

01:16:09.775 --> 01:16:09.935
When

01:16:09.935 --> 01:16:10.485
Travis Bader: you're in it.

01:16:10.535 --> 01:16:10.825
Yeah.

01:16:11.105 --> 01:16:11.495
I had no idea.

01:16:11.495 --> 01:16:12.745
There's, there's no room to be afraid.

01:16:13.225 --> 01:16:15.375
Tiffany Bader: When you tell the
story now, it scares me, and it makes

01:16:15.375 --> 01:16:20.669
me choke up a little bit, and sad,
and, but everything turned out great.

01:16:20.980 --> 01:16:28.130
Amazingly well, she's a fantastic kid
and, um, but scared, most scared I've

01:16:28.130 --> 01:16:32.570
ever been is probably May 16th, 2008.

01:16:33.310 --> 01:16:34.630
That was the most scared I've ever been.

01:16:34.750 --> 01:16:43.940
Cause, um, I, I don't know if you want
to get into this now, but, um, yeah, I

01:16:43.940 --> 01:16:50.260
mean for anyone that doesn't know, um,
that was a day that some incredibly.

01:16:51.660 --> 01:16:56.570
RCMP, Firearm Center, government
officials decided to, uh, execute

01:16:56.570 --> 01:17:00.800
a raid on, on Silvercore and put
Travis in jail for the weekend.

01:17:00.800 --> 01:17:02.920
And I had no idea what was going on

01:17:02.920 --> 01:17:03.220
Travis Bader: and.

01:17:03.930 --> 01:17:04.100
Yeah.

01:17:04.100 --> 01:17:06.690
I take off to work and they're
like, what the hell, where is he?

01:17:06.930 --> 01:17:07.690
What's going on?

01:17:07.850 --> 01:17:10.770
And they had the municipally
integrated ERT and orchestrated

01:17:10.770 --> 01:17:12.110
raids at several locations.

01:17:12.470 --> 01:17:14.870
And, and, uh, I think they had like.

01:17:15.480 --> 01:17:19.510
18 people just at this location where I
drove in, they had the block cordoned off.

01:17:19.850 --> 01:17:23.480
They had, um, they're
staged in the back, the ERT.

01:17:23.500 --> 01:17:28.480
I drove in and my vehicle had a trailer
in tow and pulled in behind them.

01:17:28.480 --> 01:17:32.490
And they look around like, Oh, Hey Trav,
uh, could you park your vehicle over here?

01:17:32.490 --> 01:17:33.630
And they're all masked up.

01:17:33.630 --> 01:17:33.980
Right.

01:17:33.990 --> 01:17:37.310
And I didn't know who they were, but
one comes up, it's like, Oh, Trav,

01:17:37.310 --> 01:17:41.110
you might remember me from, and he
like, I don't know who this person is.

01:17:41.110 --> 01:17:44.010
And the other person like, Oh, Trav, your
father taught me back in the academy.

01:17:44.010 --> 01:17:46.370
And I don't know why
would they got us here.

01:17:46.910 --> 01:17:50.530
But, you know, over on the right
here, people don't see it if

01:17:50.530 --> 01:17:53.880
they're watching, but on the wall,
there's actually the apology letter.

01:17:54.050 --> 01:17:58.240
That took eight years to get, but it's
a rare apology letter from the RSMP.

01:17:58.250 --> 01:18:02.875
Some point, maybe We'll talk about
the just high level of corruption and

01:18:02.875 --> 01:18:06.015
malfeasance and everything that it
took in order to get there and the

01:18:06.025 --> 01:18:07.885
bullying tactics and everything else.

01:18:07.885 --> 01:18:11.335
But I don't know, that doesn't
sound like a positive place for me,

01:18:11.425 --> 01:18:14.835
which is why I've never, why I've
never really delved into that one.

01:18:15.015 --> 01:18:16.245
Very interesting story.

01:18:16.845 --> 01:18:20.295
Absolutely get a lot of, uh, hits and
clicks and people would want to hear it.

01:18:21.175 --> 01:18:25.075
But until I can find a way to talk about
that one positively, because there's a

01:18:25.075 --> 01:18:28.825
lot of negative with him, I just figured
I'll just keep that on the back shelf.

01:18:28.995 --> 01:18:29.295
Yeah.

01:18:30.500 --> 01:18:32.100
But I can definitely see that being scary.

01:18:32.270 --> 01:18:34.280
So, hey, my face didn't melt off.

01:18:34.330 --> 01:18:34.870
Nope, mine

01:18:34.870 --> 01:18:35.320
Tiffany Bader: didn't either.

01:18:35.940 --> 01:18:36.280
Travis Bader: I got an

01:18:36.280 --> 01:18:36.630
Tiffany Bader: idea.

01:18:36.810 --> 01:18:37.220
No.

01:18:39.030 --> 01:18:39.410
I don't want to hear your idea.

01:18:40.660 --> 01:18:41.340
So this is what?

01:18:41.340 --> 01:18:42.943
Travis Bader: I don't
want to hear your idea.

01:18:42.943 --> 01:18:43.629
2 million Scoville?

01:18:43.630 --> 01:18:46.630
I actually have something
that's about 3 million Scoville.

01:18:47.110 --> 01:18:50.290
But it's going to be a signing off sort
of thing, because I don't know how much

01:18:50.290 --> 01:18:51.900
we're going to be able to talk afterwards.

01:18:52.505 --> 01:18:54.445
Cause I have a feeling it
ain't going to go too well.

01:18:54.725 --> 01:18:56.045
Do we want to try this?

01:18:57.365 --> 01:18:57.795
Tiffany Bader: No.

01:18:59.855 --> 01:19:01.045
Travis Bader: Do we have
any more chicken wings

01:19:01.055 --> 01:19:01.455
Tiffany Bader: somewhere?

01:19:01.745 --> 01:19:03.065
Uh, in the, in the kitchen.

01:19:03.065 --> 01:19:03.375
Yeah.

01:19:04.645 --> 01:19:07.595
Travis Bader: We're going to do a real
quick cut because I'm going to run in

01:19:07.605 --> 01:19:08.745
the kitchen and grab two more wings.

01:19:08.745 --> 01:19:09.055
Okay.

01:19:09.575 --> 01:19:10.025
Okay.

01:19:35.195 --> 01:19:35.635
Okay.

01:19:35.705 --> 01:19:36.185
I'm back.

01:19:36.195 --> 01:19:36.945
These sound cold.

01:19:37.345 --> 01:19:38.205
They are cold.

01:19:40.135 --> 01:19:48.365
Do you remember when teenager,
late teens, and you accidentally

01:19:48.365 --> 01:19:49.335
pepper sprayed yourself?

01:19:50.500 --> 01:19:50.860
Do you remember

01:19:50.860 --> 01:19:51.110
Tiffany Bader: this?

01:19:51.130 --> 01:19:51.450
Yes.

01:19:51.450 --> 01:19:52.560
I do remember this, Travis.

01:19:53.570 --> 01:19:55.720
Travis Bader: You closed a desk
drawer, one of my drawers on my

01:19:55.720 --> 01:19:58.780
desk, and I guess there was some
spray inside there and it sprayed

01:19:58.790 --> 01:20:01.220
up and a little bit got in the air.

01:20:01.220 --> 01:20:04.160
Didn't even spray in the face, but
you're hacking and coughing and sneezing.

01:20:04.160 --> 01:20:04.750
That sucked.

01:20:05.050 --> 01:20:05.870
Yeah, it did suck.

01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:08.490
And, um, I have a feeling that
that's what's going to happen

01:20:08.490 --> 01:20:12.589
afterwards because apparently bear
spray is 3 million Schoolville.

01:20:12.670 --> 01:20:17.460
And I got some bear
spray in a plastic bag.

01:20:17.745 --> 01:20:21.855
And I thought, maybe just spray a little
bit of the plastic bag, try and contain

01:20:21.865 --> 01:20:23.195
the aerosol that's going everywhere.

01:20:23.195 --> 01:20:23.425
I'm like,

01:20:23.425 --> 01:20:24.845
Tiffany Bader: super
unimpressed with you right now.

01:20:26.065 --> 01:20:26.625
I might

01:20:26.655 --> 01:20:27.105
Travis Bader: There we go.

01:20:27.115 --> 01:20:28.385
It's expired bear spray.

01:20:28.425 --> 01:20:34.515
But that just means that the, the
accelerant inside here will, um, uh, not

01:20:34.525 --> 01:20:39.220
the, whatever is going to, the propellant,
the propellant can, uh The aerosol can

01:20:39.330 --> 01:20:42.960
die out on it, but the actual spice, the
spray, it's all going to be the same.

01:20:43.120 --> 01:20:44.990
So as long as we can get
something to dribble out, I have

01:20:44.990 --> 01:20:46.160
a feeling it's going to spray out.

01:20:47.380 --> 01:20:49.280
Do we have any words that we want to say?

01:20:49.460 --> 01:20:54.590
Tiffany Bader: I just, from like,
maybe a more sane, uh, standpoint,

01:20:54.600 --> 01:20:57.680
do you want to spray that not in
a really confined space with me?

01:20:58.360 --> 01:21:00.640
Travis Bader: Nope, nope, we're
doing it in here because otherwise

01:21:00.660 --> 01:21:03.650
people will come back and they'll
say it wasn't caught on camera.

01:21:03.650 --> 01:21:05.650
You didn't do it, blah, blah, blah.

01:21:06.020 --> 01:21:12.090
So, um, I think, uh, we'll just spray it
inside the plastic bag, give it a good

01:21:12.090 --> 01:21:15.620
shake, let things dissipate a little bit.

01:21:17.140 --> 01:21:18.550
Any last words before we do this?

01:21:22.890 --> 01:21:23.820
Yes, no, maybe so?

01:21:23.860 --> 01:21:24.100
I

01:21:24.130 --> 01:21:25.170
Tiffany Bader: don't, I don't know.

01:21:25.200 --> 01:21:26.840
There's nothing I can
do or say at this point.

01:21:27.620 --> 01:21:28.320
Well, there's plenty.

01:21:28.340 --> 01:21:29.620
For better or for worse, right?

01:21:30.600 --> 01:21:31.840
Isn't that, isn't that what I promised?

01:21:31.840 --> 01:21:33.660
Travis Bader: Give it a good
shake, give it a good shake.

01:21:33.660 --> 01:21:35.330
Three million Scoville, they say.

01:21:35.330 --> 01:21:36.086
Oh my

01:21:36.086 --> 01:21:36.464
Tiffany Bader: god.

01:21:36.464 --> 01:21:38.560
This is just such a

01:21:38.560 --> 01:21:39.160
Travis Bader: terrible.

01:21:39.230 --> 01:21:40.310
What I do want to say is.

01:21:40.420 --> 01:21:40.630
Yeah.

01:21:41.290 --> 01:21:44.960
Thank you to everybody who watches
the Silvercore podcast, who listens

01:21:44.960 --> 01:21:48.310
to the Silvercore podcast, to the club
members, to everyone who's involved

01:21:48.310 --> 01:21:49.720
in the Silvercore Outdoors community.

01:21:50.150 --> 01:21:50.590
Thank you.

01:21:51.080 --> 01:21:52.460
I truly enjoy doing this.

01:21:52.460 --> 01:21:55.580
I truly enjoy interacting with each
and every one of you, whether that's in

01:21:55.590 --> 01:21:58.030
person or online or through social media.

01:21:58.760 --> 01:22:02.920
I find it brings a lot of positivity
in people's lives, my life included.

01:22:03.130 --> 01:22:08.560
So here's to 2023, a great
ending of the year and into 2024.

01:22:08.800 --> 01:22:09.420
Tiffany Bader: Here's to doing stuff.

01:22:10.015 --> 01:22:12.985
Stupid, stupid things.

01:22:14.775 --> 01:22:15.875
Jesus Christ.

01:22:17.135 --> 01:22:18.995
That seemed like a pretty good shot.

01:22:19.165 --> 01:22:19.635
Okay.

01:22:19.995 --> 01:22:21.405
Oh, Travis, no.

01:22:21.875 --> 01:22:22.315
Oh,

01:22:23.605 --> 01:22:24.265
Travis Bader: Jesus Christ.

01:22:24.315 --> 01:22:25.455
I might have to air it out.

01:22:26.635 --> 01:22:27.305
Hold on.

01:22:27.765 --> 01:22:29.485
I know, we'll let the air us all.

01:22:29.755 --> 01:22:30.725
Okay, you feel it?

01:22:33.605 --> 01:22:36.135
When I open my hand up on this
thing, it's gonna go everywhere.

01:22:39.275 --> 01:22:40.115
Here we go, guys.

01:22:40.745 --> 01:22:41.925
This is such a bad idea.

01:22:42.055 --> 01:22:43.975
Three, two, one, you ready?

01:22:44.175 --> 01:22:44.495
Yep.

01:22:48.515 --> 01:22:51.245
One for you, one for me.

01:22:51.555 --> 01:22:52.375
Cap it up!

01:22:52.885 --> 01:22:54.755
Best of friends may we always be.

01:22:55.745 --> 01:22:56.315
You ready?

01:22:59.225 --> 01:22:59.695
Here we go.

01:23:00.345 --> 01:23:00.435
How

01:23:03.845 --> 01:23:04.035
Tiffany Bader: can

01:23:04.325 --> 01:23:04.605
Travis Bader: you breathe?

01:23:04.985 --> 01:23:05.935
Come on, get it in.

01:23:10.845 --> 01:23:11.875
Okay, that's hot.

01:23:16.765 --> 01:23:17.535
Happy New Year.

01:23:18.615 --> 01:23:19.005
Oh god.

01:23:21.975 --> 01:23:23.225
See ya, there's everybody else.

01:23:23.225 --> 01:23:23.675
It's terrible.