You need to understand that it is necessary. These hard days and these test days are necessary for where you're about to go. That path that you're walking, your destination, you cannot get there without passing through these gates.

Welcome to the Fuel Hunt Show.

What's going on, Eagles? I'm Joey, and welcome to the Fuel Hunt Show. I'm here with Drew, my cousin and cofounder. I'm happy to be here. Are you?

Always, babe. How you feeling? Always. I'm feeling great, dude.

Good. Good. I see you're very summer appropriate. I

was gonna mention this. I was like, I was gonna coordinate with you and be like, are you wearing winter clothes? Is it cold at HQ? Like and I've just fully embraced the summer weather. Like, when I roll the jujitsu nowadays, I'm in shorts of the tack knob or cut off every day.

Mhmm. People think I I walk off the beach, but

I see. Well, I mean, the sun is the sun's out, so the gun should be out.

To be 80 today.

It's gonna be 80 today. It feels good. I don't know about you, but the sun just obviously, it gives me life. It gives me energy, but I just I just feel and I like the rain, but I just feel different when the sun's out, man.

Yeah. Everyone does, especially when the the seasons change

Yeah.

From dark, gloomy, and cold to sunny in 85.

That's why everybody starts shooting in Philly. As soon as the weather changes, man, everybody starts shooting because they can't contain themselves.

Exactly. You know what I mean? Exactly.

Well, if you are, this this is related to where we're gonna go today. But, if you're watching on YouTube, which I highly suggest you do, you will see that I am wearing nothing different than what I usually wear, which is all black. When

we get deep into the summer months, will you be wearing that same attire?

I don't know. I don't I don't wanna make I don't wanna make a commitment to any other type of a tire.

Because no matter what temperature is outside, like, the AC will be on in here. So AC will be on. Yeah. Unless you wanna go full harder mode and go sweatbox. No AC.

Yeah. That's what I did when we first moved in HQ. Yeah. It's true. AC was in.

AC. Yeah.

I was here for, like, 3 months that summer. Yeah. And it was a sauna. I loved it.

Yeah.

I loved it. I'm not gonna commit to a different outfit. What I will say, though, is we both put out stories on our personal Instagrams. I'm not sure if we did it on a few on, but I know we did our personal Instagram accounts. And we say, hey.

Look. We're gonna be recording on Tuesday. Mhmm. Like, drop your questions. And what I will say is I got a lot of questions that people wanna know if I ever change my clothes.

Like, why I always wear the same thing?

Yeah.

So Consistency. Well, decision fatigue.

Yeah. True.

That's what it is. That's what it comes down to.

And when you when you're in an apparel company, like, the the choices that people think that we just get every new drop all the time, and Caroline and Brie are are good at sending them now.

But Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

We're always be like, oh, give to the people first.

Keep it in stock

for the community.

Keep it in stock for the community. Yeah. The amount of questions I got will will you be in something other than black? It's pretty it was pretty it's pretty crazy.

Yeah. I also cling on like, I feel as though certain pieces come along for us, like, that the old American made, the hunt hoodie, and we kinda cling to them. It's just

a it's just a staple. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's a staple.

I'm gonna rock this one to the wheels for.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely.

So I want to, so this is a nice little segue. I wanted to talk today about another question I got. Amidst the 55 questions about my my black outfit, I did get another question from an OG, like an o g o g of the few, Carson. Right? Who fun fact, the first community power hour ever was really Carson in Nashville.

Swinging through.

When I went, yeah, when I went to Vince, Del Monte's event, we went down there. We set up a table. I ended up speaking, and then, Carson swung through in Nashville.

Oh, yeah.

Sounds like the that was like alpha. Like, community power hour alpha.

You know

what I'm saying? Like, the first to the first to the first.

Oh, yeah. You can't be in Nashville and not hit up Carson.

I know. I know. I know. This is true. This is true.

So he sent a question through. I'm already hitting the mic. My bad. He sent it like, get animated with my hand. Yeah.

He sent a question through, and he said, what is your go to mental cue on hard days? The quote, unquote, how he described it as the I wanna give up days.

Yeah.

Right? And number 1, I thought it was a great question because it's something we all have. Yeah. You have hard days. I have hard days.

The few that are watching on YouTube and listening, they have hard days. Like, no one is immune to it. Yeah. Right? So, sorry.

AC kicked on. So I wanna talk about the mental cues or how we get through hard days. But before we get there, I wanna talk about what a hard day is. So Carson, I think he did a great job in summing it up, like the I wanna give up days. The days where you wake up and you're like, look, I know I have work to do, but I just don't wanna do it.

And let's be honest, we all have them.

Like I

said, What is a hard day to you? Not specifically, but how would you describe what makes a day hard? You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. It's a good question. I wanna start off by saying that anyone, a member of the few who's out there chasing bigger goals or things bigger than themselves, a lot of days are gonna feel harder than they than they don't. Right? Because you're constantly battling adversity, overcoming challenges, or just striving to be better.

And when you realistically have big goals, the time it takes to get there can also be exorbitant. Mhmm. For me, what a hard day looks like for me realistically in in business because I again, I'm a big believer in perspective, so I do feel as though someone else would kill for my problems today. All the problems I think I have really aren't problems. Right?

So a hard day for me is when things realistically in business are it seems like everything is going wrong when you wake up and you got more fires to put out than you do progress to make. Mhmm. Would you agree with that?

I would. I I like what you mentioned. You you you gently hit on reframing. Right?

Yeah.

Because I feel like you and me, like, to almost to a degree, we don't like to just like full transparency, we don't like to admit that days are hard. Like, as soon as we sense a hard day, we reframe it. And we're like, hey. Look. There's work that needs to be done today or the work isn't going the way we wanted it to to to go today, but there's an opportunity in this.

Let's focus on that.

Yeah. And I I tell Parker, my son, like, hard is good. Like, it's supposed to be hard. If If it's not hard, it's not probably not worth doing.

Yep. We say all the time in the community. We say easy days don't end well. Hard days harden you. Mhmm.

So but there are some members of the few that maybe haven't honed that reframing tool well enough just yet because that takes time, man. Like, we've been through the muck. We've been through many other things that I wanna say that are expletives that I can't because the f bucket's here.

Yeah.

And I left my wallet over at my desk.

I brought stacks today.

You brought stacks, man. You got stacks. We you know, we've been through it, man. Like, the hard days are almost countless at this point. Mhmm.

I think that's the other thing that you were hitting on. Like when you have big goals, big dreams, big aspirations, you've really gotta buckle up because you're gonna lose track of the hard days. There's gonna be so many of them.

Yeah. Yeah. One thing I'll give shout out to our boy, Jocko. Yeah. He has that whole good Yeah.

A good theory or good mentality. And he says, like, I remember I read in one of his books. It's like, oh, you still coughing yourself on your way to work? Good. Needed to change my outfit anyway.

So that's a great mental tool if you It's to break it down

simply for people.

It's reframing. Mhmm. Yeah. And if you literally just say good to everything and find a find a positive perspective, like, that is such a powerful powerful tool.

Yeah. He he has done an amazing even saying he's done an amazing job. Like, he has changed the mentality of society when it comes to or he has so succinctly explained the tool of reframing that's been around for, like, you know, decades or whatever, eons. Yeah. He has so succinctly described it and made it so accessible to everybody, which is genius.

Yeah.

So, yeah, hats off, man. Hat tip. Hat tip to Jocko. Yeah. I wanted to break that down.

I wanna make sure we touched on reframing because you gently touched on it, and then I wanted to make sure that we touched on the fact that, you know, you were kind of insinuating that the hard days, they never end.

Yeah.

They're countless and they continue.

Exact like, they should they should be hard Yes. Realistically is what I'm what I was getting at. Like Mhmm. Don't wish for days to be easy.

Right. It's a it's a bellwether. Right? Like, if you like I just said, like, hard days hard on you. Like, if you are not going through the fire, if you don't have those hard days or those test days, if you wanna call them that, you are not progressing as a human.

Yeah. You know?

You gotta break down the build. The one and I don't know if we'll get into this. But

We can get into whatever you want, man.

The the one this is a few on OG from years ago that I probably I mean, I may have reposted.

That was The archive the archives are deep. Yeah. The archives are deep on our content, man. Going back 2017.

And I think Caroline might even have this tattooed on. Right? It might be the one, but it's not the load, Caroline.

She has still she has still going.

She's

still growing. Yeah.

Oh, it's still growing. Okay.

Yeah. Yeah. It's not the load that breaks you.

It's not the load that breaks you. It's not the load that breaks you. It's not the load that breaks you. It's not the load that breaks you. It's not the load that breaks you.

It's It's not the load that breaks the Italian cheese to carry it. And that stuck with me forever. Like, I still I think I even have it saved on my phone, like, in my favorites just to, like, to remind myself. But and that's the truth. Like, we're all, especially the ones the few out there, chasing things bigger than themselves, we're going to carry a heavy load.

Mhmm. Right? The burden Yeah. Is heavy.

Yep. As I closed in on HQ, the last two miles of the Few Fest, the first Few Fest, you know, we're on Aramango Ave, You know, I have £45 in The Rock, and then I'm carrying the £45 sandbag across my my, like, traps basically, neck. I thought of that OG. Yep. You know?

Because I would stop for a second, and I would go into kind of like a squat and reposition the weight. You know? And I thought

Wild mobility though.

And I thought of that, Believe it or not, like, if you ask the guys, he has Jesse and, Trevor, they were like, oh my god. You're squatting with all that weight. And I'm like, it feels better

Yeah.

To squat, and it's probably just because some tightness or whatever in my hips, but it feels better to squat right now to reposition how I'm carrying the load.

Yeah.

Than it does to, like, stop and do it, standing straight up or put it down.

That was a literal

It was a literal a literal application of the OG, and I thought about it. And, I don't even think I mentioned that on the few fast show, but I it just came to me now.

Side note. I did so, Dean, our friend at Yep. Go rock.

Scars. Yeah.

Was nice enough to send us, rock sacks or rockers. Right?

Yep.

So before that, I typically would do my rocks with a a weighted vest, which is, I guess, not legit. Right?

No. I mean, still low band. There's still low band.

I I don't have the plate. I I didn't buy the plate for it yet. So I put 2 £25 dumbbells in there.

Head hit.

And it was just I the I've never carried that heavy weight on my back before ever for, like, a, like, a mile or 2. And it was kinda it was kinda rough. Like, I just, like, it was just different.

Well, this is a this is a perfect example of it's how you carry the limit because they're like those dumbbells are like rat or did you use plates or dumbbells?

Dumbbells.

Okay. Those dumbbells are like just like rattling around

Yeah. Yeah.

In the pad.

Well, the the the runner holds it pretty well. Like, I mean, it held it pretty well, but But then

also it's also low.

Yeah. Like, with the plate, it's it's, like, evenly distributed, sitting nicely in that

And it's, yeah, it's higher on your

your back too. Yeah. Far back was, like Yeah. Screaming.

It was howling. Right? Few fest, 2, May 18th, by the time, this show airs. Mhmm. We may have already done it.

It's gonna be epic.

I think there's gonna be a lot of people at this one.

Yeah. Yeah.

Because everyone everywhere I go, everyone's like, oh my god. Like, the few fasts, I saw you guys do that. Like, am I am I prepared? Am I gonna be prepared? Am I fit enough for it?

Listen. I'll tell you something. It's and I've said this I was gonna say a 1000000 times, but if I if I actually come up with a realistic number, I've probably said it close to 500 times. It's not about the win. It's about the work.

So show up

Mhmm.

Show up to do the work. Don't worry about finishing. Just show up to do the work.

We were just saw him before.

If I got a carry, you know what I mean?

It's interesting. We were just talking before this about we're going a little bit off topic.

Yeah. We're I won't bring it back. You know you know, that's, like, my thing.

It's my

job here. I won't get fired, man.

I'll bring it back. We're talking about, Savage race, Spartan race, all the the the obstacle races.

Yep.

And you were saying how you're I'm gonna it took you however long to finish. Like a

full day. Yeah. My first part. Like, it took me, like, I was paralifted. I did not run at all.

I was not ready.

And,

my cardio, my my cardiovascular energy system was just not And

your functional fitness also has to be at a different level than

I was like pick up heavy things, put down heavy things. That's it.

Yeah. Like my first one compared to my second one when I was doing CrossFit at the time Gotcha. Was much different because I was ready for that kind of stuff. But that being said, it's important, I think, when you're doing the few fests or anything like that to embody that. Embrace that mindset of, like, I'm gonna go out here on a stretcher before I like, no quit, I'll commit.

Right?

I'll do it or I'll die.

Yeah. That's what our first 5 day of dance, my friend Frank, he hit me up. I would never do a dance or anything before in my life. Mhmm. And he hit me like, Sundays.

I go, you wanna do this? And I was like, sure. And I told him, man. I was like, you're gonna take me to the hospital before before I quit on myself.

What did we do, with you on? We had that moment where we're like, look. We're going to do this or we're gonna die?

Down the sword.

I'm gonna down the sword. There is like, that's a whole another topic that I wanna unpack that we're going to unpack in our, side hustle to main gig 2 part episode. We're gonna, we're gonna unpack that because I really think that people fail to achieve their goals in life not because they don't know how to achieve them, it's because they never commit to achieving them. They're not willing to literally have to sit there and say, I will do this or I will die.

Yeah. Exactly.

You know? And it it takes some balls. Yeah. You know? Yeah.

It takes some gumption to to do that. Yeah. So, yeah, we we took a little bit of a turn, but I'm gonna bring us back. So you did a great job of explaining what a hard day is. We touched on some things that relate to how I describe a hard day.

For me, a hard day is when it's hard to believe that you can be what you wanna be. You can achieve what you wanna achieve. You can make the progress that your business demands of you or your relationships demand of you or your fitness demands of you. Like, a hard day to me isn't really about the hard work. It's about the belief.

And I talk about that cycle all the time. Right? The cycle between belief and hard work, self belief and hard work. Right? I talk about that that cycle all the time and how it's like the key to unlocking anything.

So a hard day for me is I don't really get up and say, I don't wanna do this today. Like, that's never in my mind. Like, I wanna give up or I don't wanna do this because I'm just wired differently. Like, I see the work. I do the work.

Yeah.

What I say is when I get up, it's never I don't want to do this. It's it's my hard days are is this gonna work out? You know? Like, the work I'm about to do, will it have the desired effect?

Yeah.

You know? And not in the short term, even in the long term.

Yep.

You know?

It's entrepreneurship and dream chasing or goal chasing really comes down to doing an exorbitant amount of work without ever knowing if it's going to pay off. Mhmm.

K.

And that's the hard work.

That's that's the hard day

for me. Exactly.

You know? And it's it entrepreneurship especially is a roller coaster, bro. It's just a roller coaster and, like, you're like, I don't know about you, but, you know, we we're fortunate to have the support of our community who's out there doing the same thing. Like, that's why we started this whole thing. Right?

Because we were doing it and we felt so alone. Yeah. It was hard to believe that what we were doing was making a difference. Not just for ourselves and our families, but for our society. So that's why we set out to bring everybody together because it was so hard to believe when you're alone.

You know what I mean? But entrepreneurship, man, especially, like, we can make this parallel in fitness and in relationships and all that stuff, but, you know, look, we're entrepreneurs. So we'll talk about entrepreneurship a little bit. It's a roller coaster, man. I don't know about you, but I can go I can go through a day here at HQ where I come in in the morning, and it's a great day.

Yep.

I'm flying high, dude. Like, I'm soaring above the storm, man. I'm the eagle soaring above the storm. Right? And then, like, 2 hours later, the heart hits me, and I'm like, is this gonna work?

Yeah. Sometimes it kind of knocks the wind out of you.

Oh, of course, it does. Yeah? The wind the wind the wind goes from beneath your wings.

Yeah. Yeah. Right? Yeah.

To, like, literally just, like, the heaviest weight you could ever feel

Yeah.

Just dragging you down.

Yeah. And that's another thing getting into entrepreneurship, but I used to suggest entrepreneurship for everybody. And now I suggest entrepreneurship for nobody.

Right. I used to I I don't Yeah.

You used to you you remember you remember those days.

I used to bang that drum so loud. Yeah. And, you know, just like anything in life, you know, I had a certain set of experience at that time Yeah. When it came to entrepreneurship, and we're talking, like, we're talking 20 20 year 15, 20 years ago. Yeah.

I had a certain set of experience, and I bang that drum real loud. Now I have a different set of experience. You know, 15 10, 15 years later, I have a different set of experience, and I know it's reserved for the few. Yeah. As are many things in life.

Would you say that entrepreneurial journey was easier than this entrepreneur? Like, it just went smoother?

My first one? Yeah. I would say so only because it was, you know, it was a service based business. Yeah. And it was smaller.

Yeah. And, it was just different. It wasn't, ecomm. You know, there wasn't manufacturing involved. It was a it was it was a software development business way different.

So did it have a challenges? Of course then. But, like, this is a different game. Like, getting into the ecommerce game, product development, manufacturing

Building a global brand and movement is also manufacturers

in America

Yeah.

Is a whole another ball wax. Yeah. You know?

I think brand building I mean, obviously, we have, like, I've been on other entrepreneurial journeys as well, but brand building has to be one of the most challenging things you can do.

Yeah. I think it I think it is. I think it has been since the dawn of time.

Yeah.

You know? Since since brands began to exist.

Yeah.

You know? Yeah. It's always it's always been one of the most difficult things to do because what you're doing is you're building know, like, and trust with people Yep. At scale. Yep.

It's different to build know, like, and trust with people that you interact with on a daily basis directly in person, in an office, on a team Mhmm. Things like that. Mhmm. When you're trying to do it at scale to have a massive impact on the world and most of it you need to do faceless. Yeah.

Your product speaking for you, what you write is speaking for you, which everything speaking for you, there are so many variables.

Yeah.

You know? And, if your intentions are pure and you wanna do it for the right reasons like we do, it's even harder. Yeah. You know? You can go download the, you know, 100 secrets to feel myself wanting to start cursing, so I'm gonna reel it back in.

You you know, you can download, you know, 100 secrets to selling your stuff online.

Yeah.

You know, and you can do it in a way that is not service based. Yeah. And maybe be successful. Yeah. When you wanna do it for the right reasons, it's even harder.

And I know that probably sounds counterintuitive, like, oh, well, if you're doing it for the right reasons, shouldn't it be easier? No. It shouldn't because it takes more effort, especially for ecom. Yeah. You know?

Especially. So, you know, that's what when it when it comes to a hard day for me, it's it's that's what it is. It's it's a day that it's hard to believe that everything that you're doing is going to amount to everything that you wanna be.

Yeah.

You know? Or everything that you're doing is going to amount to everything you want to see change in the world.

Yeah.

That's a hard hard day for me, and hard is a hard's a relative term, man. Like, you know, some people's battle within is the hardest part of their day. Some people are squared away within for the most part, and, you know, the the hard work that they have to do externally Mhmm. Not internally is the harder part of their day. Like, it's it's a relative term, but I think that what we can do now is, you know, question asked about mental cues or the how behind getting through your hard days.

So why don't we get into that a little bit? I'll let, I'll let you go first because I'm such a a gracious host.

Well, I I I jumped ahead because I was going to say reminding yourself that it's not the load that breaks you with how you choose to carry it, but also that mental reframing. I I use both my tools, but the mental reframing of just saying good. Right? Yep. And using that perspective and and mindset shift to help you overcome and get back to work.

Yep. Yep. I I love that. I mean, you you know, obviously, we're we're cousins, but we've been, partners in business now for almost a decade. We're well, I'm fast forward a

little bit.

7 years. You know? I'm rounding up. So you know how big reframing is. Like, that is my number one weapon.

You know? And as far as frameworks go for me, I have a sim similar framework, remember and reframe. I've written blogs about it, emails about it. Remember who you are, where you came from. You know?

You've been through it before. You know? To varying degrees, maybe this hard day is a little harder. Maybe it's the hardest one you've ever went through. But you've went through hard days before.

Remember, you've went through hard days before and you have a 100% survival rate.

Yep.

After you remember that, then it's time to reframe, and you have to look for the opportunity that's that's nestled inside of the obstacle. Even if that opportunity is just you learning what not to do again. Yep. And I realize how hard that is.

Oh, yeah.

But you you you must must do it because the reality is people that have huge goals that end up achieving them Yep. The road is unpaved. It's rocky.

That's the truth.

Right? It's unpaved. It's rocky. You're gonna get thorns in your feet. Your feet are gonna bleed when you walk it.

You're gonna cry the whole damn way sometimes. You need to understand that it is necessary. These hard days and these test days are necessary for where you're about to go. That path that you're walking. Your destination, you cannot get there without passing through these gates, you know, walking that path.

So it's absolutely necessary. So remember and reframe. That's a little framework of mine. And then one other thing that I wanted to hit on, I was talking to Carson and, you know, we're talking, you know, about, actually, no. This was, someone that replied to my reply to Carson's story, which I won't, mention this community member's name, but we were talking about, self talk, and that also kind of inspired my response, you know, to Carson's story.

And one of the things that I tell myself on those days is hunt hard. It was very easy for me to just say fuel hunt

Yeah.

But, you know, one of the things I tell myself is hunt hard, and there's a reason for that because it's a cue for me to remember not only that I need to match the hard to believe day with a whole bunch of hard work, but that there's also people out there, the few, that are hunting just like I am through that hard day, just like you are through that hard day. I'm not alone.

Yeah.

So hunt hard is another mental cue that, or a phrase that I'll say to myself to help me push through the through the hard days.

That was deep.

Yeah. And if, obviously, if you're on our email list, for those watching and listening, you you hear this type of stuff from me all the time. Like, that's what I try to do in the community. Newsletters that I send out share these types of frameworks and cues, you know, to help people through their day. And, a lot many, many times, your SMS that you send or my email that I send comes in at the right moment when people really need it in the community, You know?

And that's it's not by accident. No. That's true. You know? It's not by accident.

So hard days. Anything else to mention on No. On hard days?

That a little monologue at the end. That was

You know what it is?

Got me going, dude.

You know what it's a result of? Going through a lot of hard days.

Hard days?

Going through a lot of hard days.

Maybe one of those days today?

Go going through a lot like. They're going through a lot of those hard days, man. Going through a lot of hard days. Yeah. I mean, look, dude.

Like I said, we're entrepreneurs, man. Like, you know, the few that are watching and listening, they're mistaken if they don't think that us sit in front of these cameras, you know, doing this. If they don't think it's bookended with a hard day yesterday and a hard day tomorrow. Like, sometimes hunting hard means getting in front of the camera sitting here and pouring into them

Yeah.

When our cup's empty.

That's the truth.

Because there were hard days that bookend bookended us recording the show.

I agree.

You know what I mean? So yeah. The the monologue came from experience as does everything that we, we say on the show, I guess. You know? We'll try to, I guess, we try to help the community time collapse.

Right? Share your experiences.

Real people, real hard work, though.

Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Alright. We are going to so this whole episode was inspired by Carson's reply to my story on, my personal Instagram account.

I why don't you shout out, shout out your personal Instagram account, and I'll shout out mine too.

So this is actually a hot topic for me.

Let's let's talk about it because I got

What is what is my what is my IG handle say it? So As it's as you read it, how would how do you say my handle?

Drewy, b yo.

Yes. So my handle is drewy b yo.

You're gonna have to spell that.

D r e w y b y o. Yes. It may Amanda and I were just telling her that I may I may have to change it.

You might have to change it.

Because it's people don't seem to get it. And it's also from a long time ago. But Yeah.

I think if it was drew b yo Yeah. I think it's the jury part that there's

People think jury bio.

I see.

I see. And I don't that's what I've gotten, but I mean, I don't have any I don't know if I wanna be just Drew Beach on Instagram. And I I'm trying to get Drew.

Oh, yeah.

Someone has that. Yeah. Someone has it. Okay. A private account with

We have, we have we have people in the community. Some some people have reached out to me in the community, and, they said, hey. Look. Like, if you want ever want a Joey Bowen, like, we'll get it for you. Wow.

At a cost yeah. At a cost,

obviously, it's

a service.

I don't know. I I don't know if I want the Drew one. I might might not be the one, but d b, I like Yeah. Yeah. Because people do call me.

Good luck, dude.

Yeah. Well, send me your people. I know you have people.

That was your opportunity to say that, luck fair is hard worker. Alright. So you're, drew y b y o on Instagram. I'm Joey Digital on Instagram. The reason I brought that up is because, someone asked me to do that as well.

You know? They were like, hey. You probably get more questions from the community. So I wanted to call that out. But so that's where the Carson asked the question on my account, Joey Digital, by the way, which, is a nod to actually The Risen.

I don't know if you you know you you know that.

The Risen?

Yeah. Bobby Digital. No. What's the From Wu Tang. I don't know.

So because I was a programmer

and That's pre my rap. Like

Okay.

My rap. I mean, I like big I love biggie.

I'm big hip hop head.

But that era of that like, I came into, like, Doctor. Dre, Eminem's Snoop Dogg.

Okay. Yeah. It's too early.

It's a Wu Tang, like, precedes them, I believe.

I mean, they're still they were still timeless.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

But, mine, you know, I started programming at an early age, around 11 years old. So I was in the computers very, very young. Yeah. And nowadays, like, kids are programming, like, 5. 5.

Yeah. For for, you know, my generation, it was young. So since I was in the computers and I loved Wu Tang, I had a friend that call that said, oh, you know, you're like Joey Digital instead of Bobby Digital.

So that's

where mine

comes from. Sick.

Yeah. So that's

where mine comes from. To me that being such a reserved, clean, like, polished guy

Yeah.

That, like, you love gangster rap.

I love hearing, oh, I love hip hop. But I'd yeah. I like some gangster rap, but I I love hip hop. It's always interesting to me to, like, get feedback on, like, how people see me. I love that.

Yeah. Like, you're saying clean reserved. Like, I think I'm the opposite.

Really?

I think I'm, like, unchanged, intense.

You don't wanna curse on the show, but then I'm driving home here because the song is about Yes. I will. Shooting people.

Yes. I will. So I what I will say is, I have intentionally lived a life of experience, and I like to be well versed in a lot of different things. A lot of different types of art, a lot of different types of experience, like so I'm, like, I'm easy to figure out, but I'm also pretty deep.

I disagree that you're easy to figure out.

Yeah. See, I love this. We should do a whole show where we just do, like, a rotating thing.

About what we just discussed. Each other Yeah. Or each other.

And then, yeah, they'll just dissect you. Alright. We're gonna we're gonna tie this up. Where I was going with it is, this whole episode was inspired by a question, a response to a story that I put out. I had fun doing this.

I know the community is gonna love it.

Oh, yeah.

I wanna do more shows as as I'm sure you do too that are inspired by questions, real questions from the real people in our community. They're doing real hard work for real impact. So what we're gonna do is we're gonna start sourcing questions to answer on the show and show topics from our YouTube comments. Okay. So that's where we're gonna do it.

Not everybody's on the gram.

And potentially email SMS as well. Right?

Yes. There as well. Look. We're not gonna say no to it, but not everybody's on the gram, you know, all sorts of stuff. YouTube seems to be a commonplace.

So, on this show, even if you're listening, head to YouTube. If you want to show, it ain't hard to find us. Top 25% of podcast. Shout out. Leave a comment on the show or one of our other shows with a topic that you'd like us to address on the show or a question you'd like us to answer on the show.

Yeah. Sound good?

Yes. Sounds great. The other, I mean, the other idea just to preview it here or tease it, but I wanna do that stories of the few where people write in

Yes. We are

and then we we read the story Mhmm. And then react. Yep.

I want I'm gonna talk to Dane. We're talking about before how he and his team at Shoemaker Films are doing such an amazing job with just incrementally helping us get better on the set, off the set. Right? I told him I'm drawing a line of makeup, though. Like, if he brings in hair and makeup, I'm not doing it.

Absolutely not. Absolutely not. But, speaking about getting better, I'm gonna ask Dane about what I would love to do during that episode. Stories of the few episodes. If the community member, if the eagle can't be here with us, I would love to, like, phone them in.

Even if I just call them on the phone and we just chat.

Well, I've seen people do that.

Yeah. I would love to do it.

I've seen people do that Zoom, and it, like, kinda works. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

Can we do that, Dane? Yeah. We do it. Yeah.

Of course. Yeah. There you go. There you go. Alright.

Let's bring this in for a landing.

We're behind. We're behind.

This is an excellent this was an excellent episode. I loved it. I didn't, introduce Ernest. I'll pay for that later. Right now, I'll leave the few with a reminder for their hard day potentially.

Always choose hard work over handouts. Always choose effort over entitlement. No one owns you. No one owes you. You're one of the few.

Now let's hunt.