NUANCE

What happens when ministry becomes your drug—and rest feels like failure? In this raw, redemptive episode of Compassion International's new series Nuance, Austin Rockwell (pastor, DJ, and founder of Kamp Love) and Heather MacFadyen (host of Don't Mom Alone) open up about their journeys through burnout, striving, and the pressure to perform for God, others, and even themselves.

Austin shares how a stunning moment of revelation began a season of radical freedom and Sabbath. Heather reflects on motherhood, technology, and the myth that busyness equals holiness. Together, they ask: What does it really mean to abide in Christ when the world—and the church—keep rewarding hustle?

Expect laughter, honesty, communion-on-the-go, and a refreshingly practical take on how to live loved instead of living tired. Whether you're a leader, a parent, or just feeling overwhelmed by the pace of life, this conversation is a deep breath of grace.

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What is NUANCE?

Nuance is a conversation series unlike any other—where 14 Christian thought leaders, pastors, artists, and influencers come together two at a time for honest, grace-filled dialogue across lines of difference.

Each of the 13 episodes pairs two voices you may not expect to see in the same room, exploring prompt cards that challenge assumptions, surface tensions, and invite vulnerability. They don’t always agree. That’s the point. What emerges is not debate, but a richer kind of unity—one rooted in listening well, honoring each other’s stories, and holding space for complexity without compromising conviction.

These are the conversations we need in a polarized world. With topics that range from race to revival, politics to purity culture, deconstruction to discipleship, Nuance offers a model of courageous curiosity—centered in Christ, grounded in Scripture, and fueled by the Spirit of relational reconciliation that genuinely explores what it means to live Unto Jesus today.

If you're hungry for depth, tired of division, and ready for a better way forward—welcome. This is Nuance.

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