1 00:00:04,110 --> 00:00:05,850 This is Power Onward, 2 00:00:05,910 --> 00:00:10,740 the podcast that wheels how power technology shapes your everyday life. 3 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,090 Transform the area you are listening to, power our work. 4 00:00:20,250 --> 00:00:24,030 What is power in your world? Onward. 5 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:27,750 This is Power Onward, 6 00:00:28,020 --> 00:00:32,280 the podcast that unveils how power technology shapes your everyday life. 7 00:00:33,450 --> 00:00:36,870 You're out for a walk on a crisp, clear morning. It's peaceful, 8 00:00:37,290 --> 00:00:39,510 but the world is already humming with activity. 9 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,810 What powers our world isn't always visible, 10 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,350 but it's everywhere it feels. 11 00:00:46,350 --> 00:00:49,590 The things we rely on and shapes the world will leave behind. 12 00:00:50,190 --> 00:00:54,630 At first it might feel simple, but behind it all are the complexities of power, 13 00:00:54,630 --> 00:00:57,600 technology and even more complex decisions. 14 00:00:58,110 --> 00:01:02,100 Decisions about how we design power and build for the future. 15 00:01:02,700 --> 00:01:07,110 Decisions about what we protect and what we're willing to change. For Tara, 16 00:01:07,230 --> 00:01:11,730 this is far from abstract, it's personal. As a mother of two, 17 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,280 she's thinking about sustainability. Long-term. 18 00:01:15,030 --> 00:01:19,650 Tara grew up believing you should choose the work that makes an impact today. 19 00:01:19,710 --> 00:01:22,740 That means pushing for cleaner air, cleaner water, 20 00:01:23,010 --> 00:01:27,420 and a strategy that makes space for both planet and profit. I'm Kim. 21 00:01:28,140 --> 00:01:28,973 And I'm Tara. 22 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:30,210 Tara, 23 00:01:30,210 --> 00:01:33,780 when did sustainability become the work you wanted to dedicate yourself to? 24 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,910 I remember when I went to college, I said, oh, 25 00:01:38,910 --> 00:01:40,710 I'm going to be an environmental engineer, 26 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:45,180 and I was convinced to be a mechanical engineer because it broader, 27 00:01:45,540 --> 00:01:47,130 but I never lost that passion. 28 00:01:47,430 --> 00:01:52,270 And after however many 16, 17 years at Cummins, 29 00:01:52,860 --> 00:01:57,240 I finally wanted to dive into that sustainability area 30 00:01:57,450 --> 00:02:01,140 more, and I got the opportunity to do that. And I interviewed, 31 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,410 called my mom and said, I got the job. And she said, well, 32 00:02:04,410 --> 00:02:06,810 you always said you were going to save the rainforest one day. 33 00:02:07,050 --> 00:02:09,030 It's something that's been really, 34 00:02:09,030 --> 00:02:13,890 really a passion for me at the forefront of what I do and who I am. 35 00:02:14,460 --> 00:02:15,930 I love to help people, 36 00:02:16,500 --> 00:02:21,210 and so I feel that helping people physically is a 37 00:02:21,210 --> 00:02:23,400 big thing that we can do. 38 00:02:23,730 --> 00:02:27,450 And then if we can help people mentally as well, that's even more so. 39 00:02:27,450 --> 00:02:29,940 And then the environment kind of overlaps them both. 40 00:02:30,330 --> 00:02:34,920 And so I feel like the easiest way for me to help people and impact people 41 00:02:34,920 --> 00:02:36,960 is to help the environment. 42 00:02:37,350 --> 00:02:38,640 You say that so lightly, 43 00:02:39,030 --> 00:02:43,650 but it is really impactful and all of these things are intertwined. Tara, 44 00:02:43,890 --> 00:02:47,340 I've seen a lot of updated messaging around Destination Zero. 45 00:02:47,340 --> 00:02:49,740 Can you tell our audience what Destination Zero is? 46 00:02:49,950 --> 00:02:50,760 Sure. Yeah. 47 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:55,020 So we have just gone through our midpoint review of our goals, 48 00:02:55,020 --> 00:02:57,810 and we did a rebranding of our sustainability strategy, 49 00:02:58,050 --> 00:02:59,950 which is now called Destination Zero. 50 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,860 So really when you look at Destination Zero, 51 00:03:02,860 --> 00:03:07,420 it's our commitment to sustainability and then helping our 52 00:03:07,450 --> 00:03:12,160 customers navigate this energy transition all while growing our business. 53 00:03:12,700 --> 00:03:16,360 And so that's really where we marry the purpose of our company, 54 00:03:16,390 --> 00:03:19,060 mission of our company with the profitability and growth. 55 00:03:20,140 --> 00:03:23,710 Now at Cummins, we always talk about simplifying sustainability. 56 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:25,420 What exactly does that mean? 57 00:03:26,410 --> 00:03:30,940 That's a good one, because when you think of sustainability, climate change, 58 00:03:31,330 --> 00:03:34,990 it can be intimidating, debilitating, even. I mean, even for me. 59 00:03:35,350 --> 00:03:39,160 So really when I think of simplifying it for Cummins, 60 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,270 it's about three things I focus on. It's let's figure out, 61 00:03:43,330 --> 00:03:46,360 when we talk about sustainability, what it means to us. 62 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,440 When I'm thinking about simplifying it, it's like, okay, 63 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,800 let's clarify what sustainability means to us. 64 00:03:53,830 --> 00:03:57,850 Let's explain what we're doing and then let's connect it to people's work. 65 00:03:58,300 --> 00:04:02,050 So when we clarify it, it's not just, oh, 66 00:04:02,050 --> 00:04:03,850 I'm going to go out and hug a tree. 67 00:04:06,010 --> 00:04:07,990 How are we sustaining our company? 68 00:04:08,470 --> 00:04:13,150 How are we sustaining our employees and pulling them along through this 69 00:04:13,150 --> 00:04:14,800 energy transition as well, 70 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,560 and making sure they still feel relevant with their skills, 71 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,440 and then they can adapt to this changing environment. 72 00:04:21,010 --> 00:04:25,900 How do we sustain our communities where we operate? That's huge. 73 00:04:25,900 --> 00:04:29,710 And then how do we continue to help our customers and sustain our customers and 74 00:04:29,710 --> 00:04:31,690 their growth that's going to help us as a. 75 00:04:31,690 --> 00:04:32,590 Company. Exactly. 76 00:04:32,590 --> 00:04:33,940 So sustainability is, 77 00:04:34,060 --> 00:04:38,230 it's simple when you put it in those terms, 78 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:43,450 and then you think about explaining what are our goals and aspirations in this 79 00:04:43,450 --> 00:04:44,283 space, 80 00:04:44,530 --> 00:04:49,480 and then making sure we connect those things with people's work and 81 00:04:49,900 --> 00:04:53,260 so that they can feel a part of the strategy so that we can bring them along. 82 00:04:53,770 --> 00:04:56,710 And that's what I've been pushing for in the sustainability. 83 00:04:56,710 --> 00:04:58,360 Space. That's a big part. 84 00:04:58,420 --> 00:05:02,920 I recently participated in a e EEC where we were helping to garden and harvest 85 00:05:03,130 --> 00:05:06,190 some different crops in Indianapolis. To me, 86 00:05:06,460 --> 00:05:10,960 it's so impactful to see that I think 61,000 of our employees are 87 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:15,160 participating in volunteering within the communities to make it a better space. 88 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,640 And it all starts with those three goals that you laid out, 89 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:23,200 which understandably it is, you said debilitating. And to me, 90 00:05:23,260 --> 00:05:26,140 I felt that same way when my parents had asked me, 91 00:05:26,350 --> 00:05:28,840 what is Cummins doing for sustainability? 92 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:29,350 Because. 93 00:05:29,350 --> 00:05:31,270 There's so many things you don't know where to start. 94 00:05:31,270 --> 00:05:35,680 And identifying those three pillars really does lay it out in a simple way. 95 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:42,160 Let's talk about decarbonization. Why does decarbonization matter? 96 00:05:42,250 --> 00:05:45,520 And what are we doing at Cummins to work towards that? 97 00:05:46,540 --> 00:05:50,890 Oh, well, that's a big question because we're doing so much, 98 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,560 which is amazing. So I'm not going to list everything, 99 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:58,220 but decarbonization does matter. We want to see our communities, 100 00:05:58,220 --> 00:06:00,320 our company, our employees thrive. 101 00:06:00,710 --> 00:06:05,570 So how do we do that from an aspect of making sure where we 102 00:06:05,870 --> 00:06:09,020 provide healthy communities, a healthier planet to allow that to happen, 103 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,000 even when you look at our company's mission, 104 00:06:11,330 --> 00:06:14,540 making people's lives better by powering a more prosperous world. 105 00:06:14,870 --> 00:06:16,970 And in order to do that, you need a healthier planet. 106 00:06:17,450 --> 00:06:22,280 So decarbonization is the catalyst to be able to 107 00:06:22,280 --> 00:06:24,410 make that happen, to make that healthier planet. 108 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:26,810 And some of the ways that we're doing that at Cummins, 109 00:06:26,810 --> 00:06:27,980 when you look at our products, 110 00:06:28,100 --> 00:06:31,040 we have fuel agnostic engines that we're working on. 111 00:06:31,430 --> 00:06:33,590 And what does that mean for our audience that may not know? 112 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,390 It's where you just keep the base engine and then you change all the bits on 113 00:06:38,390 --> 00:06:42,290 top, basically. And then you can use different types of fuels, 114 00:06:42,710 --> 00:06:45,560 and that helps our customers. 115 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:50,000 And if they want to use lower carbon fuels or 116 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,060 wherever they are in their sustainability journey, we can help them along. 117 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:54,020 Meeting them where they. 118 00:06:54,020 --> 00:06:57,050 Are. Yeah, exactly. So it's really customer focused. 119 00:06:57,050 --> 00:07:01,820 And we have hybrids where we have our diesel mixed with the electric. 120 00:07:01,820 --> 00:07:06,320 We have some of the things that we're doing with fuel economy projects. 121 00:07:06,710 --> 00:07:09,020 So those are making sure, 122 00:07:09,020 --> 00:07:11,450 even for those customers that we have out in the field, 123 00:07:11,690 --> 00:07:15,680 how can we improve their fuel efficiency? So how did they use less fuel? 124 00:07:15,980 --> 00:07:16,720 Very cool. 125 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,760 Very cool. Which saving money, less carbon. Yeah, yeah, 126 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,550 I was going to get to that. Right? For us, 127 00:07:22,550 --> 00:07:27,080 it's a win-win because it's less carbon emissions for us from the use of our 128 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,240 products, but also for our customers. 129 00:07:29,510 --> 00:07:33,230 They spend less money on the fuel that's needed to carry out their everyday 130 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,920 truly a win. So there's that. 131 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,940 And then we have renewable energies, which we focus on with our facilities. 132 00:07:41,030 --> 00:07:45,920 So solar arrays that we have at different plants that 133 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:50,210 help us to power our facilities and our manufacturing and manufacturing 134 00:07:50,210 --> 00:07:51,043 facilities. So. 135 00:07:51,230 --> 00:07:51,860 Very cool. 136 00:07:51,860 --> 00:07:56,240 There are a lot of times where we see commercials and we see all these things in 137 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:57,020 action, 138 00:07:57,020 --> 00:08:01,670 but knowing that they're in place at the locations that we work in is really 139 00:08:01,670 --> 00:08:03,980 inspiring. It's here, it's real life. 140 00:08:03,980 --> 00:08:08,180 This is not something that's future casted, something that's far along the way. 141 00:08:08,210 --> 00:08:09,320 It's here now for us. 142 00:08:09,470 --> 00:08:13,760 Exactly. And it works. Yes. And it's great to see it at work saying that, oh, 143 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:18,320 we've provided this customer with an engine that was built 144 00:08:18,770 --> 00:08:22,670 on renewable energy and helping to green that grid. So it's really, 145 00:08:22,700 --> 00:08:23,780 it's encouraging. 146 00:08:23,810 --> 00:08:26,900 It's fulfilling, and I can see the pride in your face. 147 00:08:27,170 --> 00:08:30,740 We're just excited about it. Yeah. Oh, I am. I'm earlier. 148 00:08:30,740 --> 00:08:32,270 You mentioned fuel economy, 149 00:08:32,420 --> 00:08:35,690 but I've also heard you mention something about circular economy. 150 00:08:36,530 --> 00:08:38,270 Can you walk us through what that means? 151 00:08:38,870 --> 00:08:42,470 Yes. So circular economy is also very big. 152 00:08:43,010 --> 00:08:47,180 It's something like sustainability can be big If you Google circular economy, 153 00:08:47,180 --> 00:08:51,470 I think there are over 200 definitions of what circular economy could be. 154 00:08:51,980 --> 00:08:56,280 So for Cummins, what circular economy is is really simple. 155 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:00,240 It's just how do we use less, use better and use again? 156 00:09:00,750 --> 00:09:05,310 So when we're looking at even making our products, how do we use less material? 157 00:09:05,430 --> 00:09:10,020 How do we extract less from the earth so that we're not ending up having to put 158 00:09:10,020 --> 00:09:13,620 more into landfill or ruining those natural resources? 159 00:09:13,650 --> 00:09:15,150 How are we're using our materials better? 160 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,840 So when we look at the production of our products, 161 00:09:19,020 --> 00:09:23,190 the design of our products, can we say, oh, you know what? 162 00:09:23,430 --> 00:09:27,840 I probably don't need this much material to be able to make this part. 163 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:32,460 So how do we continue to improve our engines and our 164 00:09:32,460 --> 00:09:37,350 dependability in there while using less and using the material 165 00:09:37,350 --> 00:09:38,310 in a better way? 166 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:43,110 So not interrupting or ruining the structural integrity of our 167 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:44,153 components, 168 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,750 but continuing to make them stronger and use them better as we move forward. 169 00:09:48,810 --> 00:09:51,810 When we look at materials within our products, 170 00:09:51,990 --> 00:09:55,920 how do we say, okay, at the end of life, 171 00:09:56,040 --> 00:10:00,090 this can be used again, this can go to remanufacturing, 172 00:10:00,090 --> 00:10:04,470 or this can be recycled. What do we do at the end of life with those parts? 173 00:10:04,860 --> 00:10:08,340 It's really those three simple things like how do we use less? 174 00:10:08,430 --> 00:10:10,050 How do we use better? And how do we use. 175 00:10:10,050 --> 00:10:14,100 Again, there is a lot of thought and intention in each of those actions, 176 00:10:14,100 --> 00:10:18,450 and this feels like a more corporate version of reduce, reuse, 177 00:10:18,450 --> 00:10:22,290 recycle the things that we've learned when we were kids in implementing them 178 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:26,580 Now. Exactly. Earlier you had also mentioned the energy transition, 179 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,920 and now we all know there's no perfect playbook. 180 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,190 There's no step-by-step plan for this energy transition. 181 00:10:32,580 --> 00:10:37,020 So in a space full of unknowns, how do you stay focused and continuing to. 182 00:10:37,020 --> 00:10:39,630 Move forward? That's a really important question. 183 00:10:39,630 --> 00:10:44,550 So every year we have a session with our CEO 184 00:10:44,820 --> 00:10:48,540 to talk about our sustainability strategy and other key stakeholders within 185 00:10:48,540 --> 00:10:52,890 leadership, what we are currently doing, what we have planned for the future, 186 00:10:53,190 --> 00:10:56,010 make sure we're aligned with the business. And this year, 187 00:10:56,010 --> 00:10:58,710 she said something that really resonated with me, 188 00:10:58,740 --> 00:11:02,700 and it was focus on your sphere of 189 00:11:02,970 --> 00:11:05,730 influence and not your sphere of concern. 190 00:11:05,970 --> 00:11:10,740 And that is really critical in this sustainability space, 191 00:11:10,740 --> 00:11:14,340 because I've said before, I mean, it can be debilitating. 192 00:11:14,550 --> 00:11:17,850 You can just be a deer in a headlights because there's so much to do and you're 193 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:22,410 constantly worrying, oh, am I doing enough? Am I going too slow? 194 00:11:22,410 --> 00:11:26,010 Am I too far in front? Is this going to way too many. 195 00:11:26,010 --> 00:11:28,830 Complexities that just continue to layer upon each other? 196 00:11:30,030 --> 00:11:33,330 So really focusing on what we can control. 197 00:11:33,390 --> 00:11:36,450 And so that makes me think forward to, okay, 198 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,980 so let's remember our purpose. What is our mission as a company? 199 00:11:41,070 --> 00:11:44,460 So how do I help create that healthier planet? 200 00:11:44,580 --> 00:11:49,500 What can Cummins do in that space? You just keep going layer by layer. Okay, 201 00:11:49,500 --> 00:11:51,810 what can we do? What can we influence? 202 00:11:52,140 --> 00:11:55,780 99% of our footprint is from the use of our products, 203 00:11:55,870 --> 00:11:59,320 so let's make sure we have initiatives around that space, 204 00:11:59,530 --> 00:12:02,350 and we're pushing forward there because that's going to help us, 205 00:12:02,710 --> 00:12:05,350 help our customers, help our communities, help our employees. 206 00:12:05,860 --> 00:12:10,270 So things like that just help keep me focused. It's like, okay, 207 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:15,070 let me make sure I'm just looking at my sphere of influence and doing what we 208 00:12:15,070 --> 00:12:15,903 can here. 209 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,050 That's very powerful. 210 00:12:17,050 --> 00:12:20,770 And I can see that focusing right there in your influence can help you move 211 00:12:20,770 --> 00:12:25,030 forward with confidence because you are very aware of all the things that we can 212 00:12:25,030 --> 00:12:25,900 influence. Indeed. 213 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,010 We know Cummins has made a long-term commitment to sustainability. 214 00:12:30,490 --> 00:12:32,020 What does that look like in practice, 215 00:12:32,140 --> 00:12:34,480 especially when so many others are pulling back? 216 00:12:35,470 --> 00:12:40,300 I have always thought that sustainability is linked with 217 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,760 business. And I've said before, 218 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:47,050 I think people sometimes talk about sustainability in a way that's just, oh, 219 00:12:47,050 --> 00:12:50,320 it's great. We can save trees and we can save water. 220 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,240 But when you're in corporate America, 221 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,580 when you're in a business and you talk about sustainability, 222 00:12:54,610 --> 00:12:59,530 it's great to talk about it in dollar signs and monetary because it can be very 223 00:12:59,530 --> 00:13:02,590 financially lucrative if you do it correctly. 224 00:13:02,950 --> 00:13:06,940 So when you look at the growth strategy, 225 00:13:07,150 --> 00:13:11,830 what can we do within that space to help with the life of our 226 00:13:11,830 --> 00:13:14,590 products? What do we do at the end of our product life? 227 00:13:15,010 --> 00:13:17,170 When I look at the business strategy, 228 00:13:17,350 --> 00:13:20,320 we have to make sure that we are aligned with it. 229 00:13:20,500 --> 00:13:24,580 And I think that when you look at how we are going forward, 230 00:13:24,580 --> 00:13:29,290 how the world is moving forward, how is sustainability playing a part in that? 231 00:13:29,770 --> 00:13:30,603 And you see, 232 00:13:30,850 --> 00:13:34,960 regardless of the geopolitical atmosphere across the world, 233 00:13:35,260 --> 00:13:36,820 sustainability is not going away. 234 00:13:36,910 --> 00:13:40,450 So I feel like those are linked with what we do, 235 00:13:40,540 --> 00:13:43,000 even with being able to grow a business. 236 00:13:43,090 --> 00:13:46,720 If we look at our new and recon parts business, 237 00:13:47,170 --> 00:13:52,150 what can we do at the end of life for our products so that we can continue 238 00:13:52,150 --> 00:13:56,500 to grow that space and grow that business? Because that's a big 239 00:13:56,500 --> 00:13:57,333 opportunity. 240 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,990 And then you look at the innovation within our employees, 241 00:14:02,020 --> 00:14:04,330 because sustainability isn't going away. 242 00:14:04,660 --> 00:14:09,190 We need people to come up with brilliant ideas, 243 00:14:09,550 --> 00:14:11,830 and how are we going to adjust? 244 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,610 We're going to have climate change here causing wildfires. 245 00:14:15,610 --> 00:14:18,220 We're going to have floods, we're going to have all different sorts of things. 246 00:14:18,580 --> 00:14:22,870 How do we ensure that our products and our facilities and things like that are 247 00:14:22,870 --> 00:14:27,460 continuing to thrive in those spaces? Do we need new technologies? 248 00:14:27,460 --> 00:14:29,320 Do we need to think about things differently? 249 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,530 So it really helps to spur innovation, I believe, 250 00:14:33,130 --> 00:14:37,570 within our employees and our workforce. And then it tracks talent as well. 251 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:38,673 These days, 252 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:44,020 I think it's maybe a little bit of a prerequisite to people who are 253 00:14:44,020 --> 00:14:47,800 looking for companies to work for, to see whether they have a purpose, 254 00:14:47,950 --> 00:14:49,840 whether they do care about the environment, 255 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,530 whether they do care about the communities. 256 00:14:51,530 --> 00:14:53,870 I personally vet out those things. What are your company. 257 00:14:53,870 --> 00:14:55,370 Values? What do you care about? 258 00:14:56,120 --> 00:15:00,380 And I've seen that even from questions from interns I've gotten, 259 00:15:00,650 --> 00:15:03,770 and they're challenging questions, they put me on the spot, 260 00:15:03,770 --> 00:15:08,630 and I have to think about those and answer those and actually take 261 00:15:08,630 --> 00:15:12,290 those in and see what can we do? This is how people feel, 262 00:15:12,290 --> 00:15:14,330 and let's make sure we're doing the right thing. 263 00:15:14,330 --> 00:15:19,100 Let's make sure we're driving towards this purpose that we have so that we can 264 00:15:19,100 --> 00:15:21,080 get the best talent. We need. 265 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,780 That. And they're already dedicated to the cause. Exactly. 266 00:15:23,780 --> 00:15:25,430 They're not new to this, they're true to this. 267 00:15:25,430 --> 00:15:27,890 And they're here to help us get to that goal as well. 268 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:29,390 Exactly. Exactly. 269 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:34,250 So Tara, what gives you hope right now when you think about your kid's future, 270 00:15:34,250 --> 00:15:36,740 the planet's future, what keeps you going? 271 00:15:38,510 --> 00:15:42,890 I would say young people with conviction. 272 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,100 I don't know whether I'm classified as a young person anymore. 273 00:15:46,250 --> 00:15:47,030 We're always young. 274 00:15:47,030 --> 00:15:47,390 Forever. 275 00:15:47,390 --> 00:15:48,740 Young at heart. 276 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,180 But the people that I talk to these days, 277 00:15:53,570 --> 00:15:58,370 the awareness that they have that wasn't there maybe 25 278 00:15:58,370 --> 00:15:59,203 years ago or so, 279 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:05,600 I am so encouraged because they want to do something and they 280 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:10,430 want to make a difference, and they push you. What are we doing in this space? 281 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,970 So I think that is very, very encouraging, 282 00:16:13,970 --> 00:16:18,830 and it does push me. And then I guess on a lighter note, 283 00:16:19,310 --> 00:16:20,630 just being out in nature. 284 00:16:20,870 --> 00:16:22,130 Yeah, 100%. 285 00:16:22,250 --> 00:16:22,910 Being out, nothing. 286 00:16:22,910 --> 00:16:23,743 Like it. 287 00:16:23,900 --> 00:16:28,700 And then knowing that people are working towards preserving stuff like 288 00:16:28,700 --> 00:16:32,630 this, that I'm working towards preserving this, it helps keep me going. 289 00:16:33,050 --> 00:16:35,300 I think that's what really encourages me. 290 00:16:35,420 --> 00:16:38,360 I want my kids to be able to walk through this forest, 291 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,540 or I want my kids to be able to go on this lake, 292 00:16:41,630 --> 00:16:46,520 make sure the lake is still there in 20 years. So that's really what helps me. 293 00:16:46,820 --> 00:16:49,640 So when we talk about sustainability at Cummins, 294 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:54,200 there are so many projects out there that we're doing, just simplifying it, 295 00:16:54,650 --> 00:16:57,710 even for everyday employees in their everyday life. 296 00:16:57,710 --> 00:17:02,030 Some of the things that we've just done through June environmental month a while 297 00:17:02,030 --> 00:17:06,230 back were really fun. So we had a no new clothes challenge, 298 00:17:06,260 --> 00:17:10,160 and that's still going on, and that's basically, 299 00:17:10,220 --> 00:17:12,500 you can't buy any new clothes for 90 days, 300 00:17:12,740 --> 00:17:17,600 and we're tracking what that means for the environment. How much water have 301 00:17:17,630 --> 00:17:21,320 we saved, how much is saved from a landfill, 302 00:17:21,380 --> 00:17:24,980 and how much energy is saved? And that's really exciting to see. 303 00:17:24,980 --> 00:17:29,840 And I think it's something that gets people who aren't normally involved in this 304 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,780 space to ask questions and to say, oh, 305 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,170 how can I get more knowledge in this area? 306 00:17:36,170 --> 00:17:39,830 How can I get more involved in this area? What else are you guys doing? 307 00:17:40,190 --> 00:17:44,870 And so it's kind of like a gateway. It is a gateway to sustainability, 308 00:17:45,170 --> 00:17:46,430 but things like that, 309 00:17:46,490 --> 00:17:50,910 I encourage other people to and to put on projects like that, 310 00:17:50,910 --> 00:17:51,743 it's great. 311 00:17:51,780 --> 00:17:56,160 And it really feeds into kind of like a circular economy 312 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,440 aspect of things as well. I'm. 313 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:02,340 Glad you brought that up because in the midst of this no new clothes challenge, 314 00:18:02,370 --> 00:18:06,240 I had to buy one thing. My partner and I decided to elope, 315 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,310 so I had to buy a wedding dress, but that was the one thing I bought. 316 00:18:08,310 --> 00:18:12,210 But we'll get into that another time. There was also a clothing exchange, 317 00:18:12,210 --> 00:18:16,020 a clothing swap. So I think that goes into your circular economy bit as well, 318 00:18:16,020 --> 00:18:19,380 because we were, not that we were fending for new clothes, 319 00:18:19,710 --> 00:18:23,280 but it was a really great way to exchange Cummins gear, like different hats, 320 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,950 different shirts. We all collect things at trade shows, 321 00:18:26,010 --> 00:18:28,860 we stuffed them in our tote, and now we're exchanging our totes, 322 00:18:28,860 --> 00:18:32,220 exchanging our cups and drinkware. It was a really fun project. 323 00:18:33,390 --> 00:18:36,840 And it's still going on. I think it's going on until I think September 3rd. 324 00:18:37,110 --> 00:18:41,190 So it really makes you think, I said, oh, I want to buy something for this day. 325 00:18:41,190 --> 00:18:45,690 And I'm thinking, oh, wait, I'm not allowed to buy any new clothes, 326 00:18:46,500 --> 00:18:51,060 but we are allowed to buy secondhand, which again, keeps it out of landfills. 327 00:18:51,420 --> 00:18:54,330 And when you look at circular economy, that is a way to think about it. 328 00:18:54,510 --> 00:18:58,440 But then there are other aspects of circular economy within Cummins that we're 329 00:18:58,440 --> 00:18:59,910 starting to grab hold of. 330 00:19:00,090 --> 00:19:02,880 It's really a new initiative that we have within the company. 331 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:07,830 And it's exciting because it's really complex that we're trying 332 00:19:07,830 --> 00:19:11,880 to make simple. That's always a challenge and a fun challenge. 333 00:19:12,300 --> 00:19:17,190 So we're trying to make sure that we bring people along for this journey and 334 00:19:17,490 --> 00:19:21,210 relate it to where they are and what they can do. 335 00:19:21,510 --> 00:19:22,590 And so I'm really, 336 00:19:22,590 --> 00:19:25,710 really excited about that initiative that we've started this year. 337 00:19:25,710 --> 00:19:27,090 And now I'm really excited. Should be, 338 00:19:27,090 --> 00:19:29,520 you always have a great way of every white paper, 339 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,000 in case that I've ever worked on with you. There's so much to look forward to. 340 00:19:33,060 --> 00:19:36,150 Yeah. Yeah. So there's just, if you look at it, 341 00:19:36,540 --> 00:19:38,310 there's so much that can be done. But again, 342 00:19:39,030 --> 00:19:43,530 what are those things that we can do now? And then how do we get others engaged? 343 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,860 That's another one that I'll probably just go on and on. 344 00:19:46,860 --> 00:19:51,270 But employee engagement is a big one that we've started our sustainability 345 00:19:51,270 --> 00:19:56,250 influencers a few years back, And now we're getting to the 346 00:19:56,250 --> 00:19:59,160 point of action and mobilization. 347 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,490 So we went from awareness and learning to spreading the word, 348 00:20:02,490 --> 00:20:06,720 and now we're getting our employees, our influencers mobilized, 349 00:20:07,140 --> 00:20:12,030 and that means they're out there helping with progressing our goals and doing 350 00:20:12,030 --> 00:20:15,900 projects. Though people can sign up for things and they're, 351 00:20:16,140 --> 00:20:19,080 we have extra arms and legs to do this because you're always thinking, 352 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,680 we don't have enough people. How do we move faster? And now we can, 353 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,440 because people are getting involved in these sorts of projects, 354 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,470 and so we can do more. So that really, really excites me. 355 00:20:29,310 --> 00:20:29,940 Well, Tara, 356 00:20:29,940 --> 00:20:34,680 thank you so much for such an inspiring and insightful conversation knowing that 357 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:39,120 the strategy that we are working on make space for planet and profit feels like 358 00:20:39,120 --> 00:20:43,230 a bold statement, but it's honest, it's raw, it's true, and it matters. 359 00:20:44,100 --> 00:20:46,350 Yeah, I completely agree. 360 00:20:46,410 --> 00:20:49,480 And if we can get more people talking about it in that way, 361 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,870 I think we would get more help, more advocacy, 362 00:20:52,870 --> 00:20:56,950 more everything to just get us there faster. So yes. 363 00:20:57,100 --> 00:20:58,570 Thank you for your time today, Tara. 364 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,000 Thank you so much. It was great talking to you. 365 00:21:01,450 --> 00:21:05,170 Likewise. Alright, so what's the big idea for this episode? 366 00:21:05,650 --> 00:21:09,310 Sustainability is both a long-term goal and a daily choice. 367 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,210 Tara reminded us that clean air and water start with design decisions, 368 00:21:13,360 --> 00:21:16,960 smarter strategies and business models that make room for both purpose and 369 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,110 profit. If you work in business, start asking, 370 00:21:20,470 --> 00:21:23,140 how are we building for the full life of what we make? 371 00:21:23,740 --> 00:21:28,480 Because sustainability doesn't happen later, it happens now or not at all. 372 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:31,720 Power onward. 373 00:21:37,780 --> 00:21:41,770 Thank you for listening to Power Onward. 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