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Sam Acho: Welcome back to the Sam Macho
Podcast, the place where we go first.

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We give space, we grow hope.

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We talk about faith, family, football.

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Sometimes you'll hear about more of
that in in a second, and also finances.

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And today we have a very special guest.

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And Cliff, I'd love for
you to introduce our guest.

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Clif Marshall: Absolutely Sam.

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I am thrilled today because
we have Major League baseball

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veteran Josh Harrison with us.

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Josh is a follower of
Christ, a husband, a father.

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And just a great human being.

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Josh was born and raised
in Cincinnati, Ohio.

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He was a standout baseball player in
college playing for the Cincinnati

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Bearcats, where he was named
the Big East Player of the year.

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He was drafted by the Cubs.

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In the sixth round of the 2008 draft.

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Josh went on to play for the
Pittsburgh Pirates, the Detroit

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Tigers, the Washington Nationals,
the Oakland Athletics, Chicago

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White Sox, and Philadelphia, Philly.

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Josh was named to the Major League
Baseball All-Star Roster two

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different times in his career.

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Personal for me, Josh trained in the
off seasons at Ignition, where I was

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the performance director for many
years, so I got to watch his climb

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from the minor leagues to the big show.

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He officially announced his retirement
last week after 13 MLB seasons.

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So we are going to find
out what he is up to.

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After hanging up the cleats, Jay Hay,
welcome to the podcast, my friend.

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I'm so excited that you're with us.

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Josh Harrison: Man.

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I appreciate y'all having me, man.

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Uh, as I said, uh, you know,
I'm just grateful to be

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here and let's get it going.

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Sam Acho: Yes.

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Well, uh, J Hey, I got a question,
but before I ask that, we were gonna

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start recording and you made a comment
about Cliff and y'all's relationship.

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What did you say about Cliff
and y'all's relationship?

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Josh Harrison: Oh, um, one when, when
he, when he spoke to me or reached

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out to me about doing his podcast,
um, you know, I said, yeah, but to

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go a little further, I said, anything
that Cliff was involved in, you know,

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I consider going just from my time.

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You know, as he said, our, our history,
he knew me from when I first started

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training there in the minor leagues.

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To, um, once I made it to the big leagues
and anything that Cliff was ever involved

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in, um, you know, I was willing to be
a part of, he'll tell you too, uh, even

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at Ignition when he asked me to come
speak to some of, you know, football

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guys, even though I didn't play football.

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Um, as I said, I, I, cliff was somebody
that I definitely resonated with.

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Um, especially, you know, one of
the things that he talked about that

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ignition was iron sharpens iron.

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And, um, cliff is a good dude that any
time that I've been around talking to.

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Has been able to kind of guide
you in the right direction.

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So when asked to do this,
I'm like, that's my guy.

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Sam Acho: Hmm.

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That's so good.

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Clif Marshall: Thank you brother.

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Sam, let me show you real quick.

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That means the world to me and Sam.

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You know, for every athlete that I
trained somewhere in my house, there

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Sam Acho: Ooh.

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Clif Marshall: I.

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So that's a great picture of
Josh when he was playing for

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the Pittsburgh Pirates there.

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So Josh, you're family to me brother.

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And obviously we haven't seen each
other for a few years now that

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I've moved on to Indiana and moved
away from Cincinnati and Ignition.

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But it's family forever, man.

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When you're a coach and an
athlete and you have that bond,

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you have that relationship.

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It's the most rewarding
part, uh, at least for me.

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So thank you for those kind words
that it really means the world to me.

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Josh Harrison: Oh no, that's,
that's without saying.

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As you said, family, a lot of people
don't realize coaches, trainers, when

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you're dealing with an athlete to
get to know them, that's, that's when

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you're gonna get the most out of them.

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And

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I mean, when you take that personal
relationship, that step further,

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that's where you become family.

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Sam Acho: That's so good.

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Well, I want, I got a
question for you, Josh.

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So you just finished, you just announced
like in the last week or two, your

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retirement from the MLB after 13 seasons.

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My man two time All star, my man, uh
uh, breaking up people's no hitters.

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My man over here.

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I'm like even watching some
of your highlights, I'm

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like, rotes, dude, king, go.

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But now you are done at
least with this chapter.

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So my question for you is, what
does life look like now that

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you're no longer at the ballpark?

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Josh Harrison: Uh, you know, first
and foremost, as you said, 13

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years was definitely a blessing.

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Um, definitely looks a lot different
now than what it did in, in my previous

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years, but, uh, all things that.

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I was kind of ready for
when, when, as time came.

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Um, not to say any, any athletes that's,
that's playing now or played before.

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I mean, there's gonna come a point in
time where you're done playing and most

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people don't like to think about it.

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But, um, you know, I,
I, I take everything.

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In hindsight, I was the youngest of three.

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I'm able to observe and see how things,
you know, go and what to look for.

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And, uh, unfortunately
2020 was a COVID year.

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Um, our season was shortened.

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I was also coming off
of a hamstring surgery.

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So the previous year I was home, you
know, August through all the off season.

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And then after the COVID season we had the
lockout where the season started later.

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So it was a gap of two years where
I had more extended time at home.

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Um, whether it was rehabbing or we had
COVID, I had already got a glimpse of what

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life would be like when baseball was done.

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And uh, when it came time for
it to be done, you know, I was.

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Like, here we go.

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I was able to take my kids to school.

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Some that I had to do during COVID, you
know, granted it was, it was online.

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I was still taking 'em to school, like,

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like, you know what I mean?

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But it, it was those things that where
it's like, okay, I'm no longer on

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the other side of the phone trying to
help with homework or do these things.

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I was able to be a
little bit more present.

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So now my days look like, you
know, granted it's the summer,

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it's summer break, so it's not.

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Really much that we are doing other
than, you know, some, some family things

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that we haven't had a chance to do.

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But, um, you know, this past offseason
or this past year has been, you know,

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waking up, taking the kids to school.

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Uh, you know, whatever my wife
made, you know, she called

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the offseason Brittany season.

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And in my and, in my, in my post
for the retirement, you know, I

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told her it is Britney season now.

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You know, so that, that involves, you
know, helping in any way that I can,

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you know, for, for athletes, you know,
our significant other are the ones that.

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You know, kind of keep the
house afloat while we're gone.

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And I don't think you can make up
for Mo for miss time, but you can

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make the most of what you have.

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So you know, I'm allowing her to do.

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Things that she wasn't able to
do otherwise when I wasn't here.

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She's a business owner.

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She's got her own magazine.

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Um, the beat mom.

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She's getting ready to drop her new issue.

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Um, she's also got her
own online boutique.

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Um, so just a few things, just, you
know, where she supported me throughout

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my career, I'm able to kind of give
it back to her where, you know, she's

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always done it, but it's just a little
more fulfilling for me to sit back and

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know that, babe, go, go do what you do.

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I, I got the kids, you know, um, you
know, you don't have to worry about

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calling your parents and my parents,
you know, things that I wasn't here for.

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Now I'm here.

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Clif Marshall: Hmm.

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Josh, I wanna ask you, man, as you, as
you've, uh, you know, hung the cleats

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up, so to speak, Sam hung his up as
well after about a decade in the NFL.

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Um, what do you think you're gonna
miss most about the clubhouse?

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And really just baseball in general.

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Josh Harrison: More the competition.

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Um, I, I, I think that's
more than anything.

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Like I, I say I miss my guys,
which I think that's a given, but.

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I mean, I, I got a, I had an
opportunity, I was blessed.

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I played 13 years and I played with
a lot of people from different, you

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know, eras, different walks of life.

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I.

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And, um, so to say that I'm
gonna miss those people, I

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don't really consider that.

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'cause the ones that you keep in
contact with, you know, you're

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gonna keep in contact with.

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And the ones that you
don't, there's no love lost.

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It's just life.

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It's a lot of, it's a lot of people
that you can't keep in contact with.

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But I would say the competition, um,
'cause that, that's, that's all I've

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done from, from the age of three.

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You know, I played T-Ball from
the age of three all the way to

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playing in the major leagues.

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Um, and I also played other sports, but.

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Like that competition piece.

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Um, 'cause that's something that,
you know, you, you're gonna miss.

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I'm always gonna be competitive
whether I'm playing Uno monopoly,

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you know, but, but going in and
putting on a uniform and, you know,

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actually competing against a pitcher.

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I mean, I, I, I'll miss that.

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But you know what, I, I, I, I
feel like I've done enough of it.

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I'm, I'm excited for, for what's next.

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Sam Acho: So how did
baseball happen for you?

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Like I, you said you played
a bunch of different sports.

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How, how did, how did
baseball become the sport?

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Josh Harrison: Um, in my family, one,
my, my mom's brother, John Tbo Shelby.

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Played in 11 years, coached
for 42 World Series rings.

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He was the starting center fielder, uh,
for the a DA Dodgers Kurt Gibson home run.

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Like the, my, my uncle was the
starting center field on that team.

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Um, to the point to where when I said
coach for 40 years, my uncle was still

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coaching in the major leagues when I
played, he was a brewer's outfield coach.

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So when I played for the Pirates,
they came to Pittsburgh three

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times out the year we went to
Milwaukee three times out the year.

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So I'm seeing my uncle, you
know, 20 something times.

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Where, you know, as I
said, it's a lot of games.

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We're away from family, but at the same
time, we still get to see each other.

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We're going, you know, but he's also
giving me the, the real deal, the

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ins and outs of, Hey, stay ready
if you're not playing, you know,

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always, you know, he's been through
it and he sees it on the other hand.

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So that, that's where it came from.

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And then I had two older
brothers that played.

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We all grew up playing football,
basketball, and baseball.

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Um, my oldest brother
manages the date and dragons.

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Um, but uh, baseball
was just natural to me.

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Not that the other sports
weren't, but, uh, you let my

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family tell it their stories.

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Uh.

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I was three years old at the table with
a fork making my brother's ball up like

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a piece of paper, using it as a ball,

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Sam Acho: Hmm.

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Josh Harrison: so,

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Sam Acho: so it's in the blood.

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Josh Harrison: oh yeah.

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Sam Acho: Hmm.

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So you're talking about some
of your brothers, one of your

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brothers you mentioned is a, is
a coach in the minor leagues.

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Josh Harrison: Right.

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Sam Acho: Now that your career
is over, have you thought about

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getting into coaching or staying
involved in baseball in some way?

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Josh Harrison: So, yeah,
I got two brothers.

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Uh, my brother Sean, uh,
is the middle brother.

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My brother Vince, is the oldest brother.

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Um, Sean's a barber, so he's our barber.

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As you can see, I had to get
clean before I got on here.

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Sam Acho: Smooth, smooth.

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Josh Harrison: Shahe, also known as Shahe.

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Uh, I'm Jay, he, but Big Brother
Vince is Vhe, kind of the trailblazer.

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And, uh, he is managing the dragons.

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He's actually, this one, I
wanna say maybe like his.

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14th or 15th year coaching,
just pro ball in general.

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Um, and I can't say what the
future holds for me, you know,

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whether I'm coach or not.

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Um, you know, I'm enjoying being at
home with my family, but I, but I do

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know that coaching also is just as much
of a, you know, commitment is playing.

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And, uh, that's why I said as of right
now, you know, I'm enjoying being home.

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I don't know what the future holds,
but, uh, my big brother is, is

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holding a down force right now.

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And, uh.

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You know, I'm rooting for him.

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You know, it's, it is been
pretty cool to kind of, you know,

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see things come full circle.

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'cause he was the one
that started to fall.

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All love it.

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Me and my brothers, all our cousins,
but, um, you know, who knows, Hey,

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my brother get a big league job.

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I, it, it might be cool
to coach my brother.

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You know, that's something that
I might not be able to turn down.

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I.

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Sam Acho: Hmm.

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Clif Marshall: Jay.

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Hey.

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I just heard you say, like you said,
I'm gonna miss the competition.

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Right.

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In the major leagues, that's
what you're gonna miss the most.

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So you had that competitive spirit
in you and I got to watch it for many

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years at Ignition when you would come
in and you would want to train with

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like the, the NFL wide receivers and the

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Josh Harrison: yeah.

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Clif Marshall: And I'd be like, Jay,
hey man, you're a baseball player.

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What do you wanna train
with these NFL guys for?

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And it's like, because
you wanted to compete.

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And also your skillset to me, even
as a baseball player, is you had

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incredible athleticism, right?

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You had speed, you had
agility, you had power.

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And uh, it was so cool when I got to watch
you training with our other pro athletes,

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but in addition to the competitive spirit.

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I feel like you have
the fruit of the spirit.

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And what I mean by that is
you played the game with joy.

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You have love, you have compassion.

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You just have this, um, wellbeing about
you that people want to be around you.

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And as I was reading a lot of the comments
on social media about your retirement,

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that's what people said about you.

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They said you were the glue guy.

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For the Major League baseball teams
that you played for, but you also

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brought such a joy to the game, and I
want to know where does that come from?

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Josh Harrison: Um, it, it is,
I don't believe in coincidence,

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the fact that you brung that up.

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Um, it's not a coincidence.

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'cause even in my, you know, my, my
letter, you know, I said the peer passion

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and joy that you watched me play with
it, you know, came from the heart.

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A lot of it was, I.

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You know, I got a chance to do something.

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I loved, you know, how, how many, how
many people really get a chance to say for

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majority of their life, the job that they
work was something that they loved to do.

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Um, you know, so every day that I walked
in, um, you know, I was, I was grateful.

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I.

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And, uh, also knew what was ahead of me.

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'cause uh, there was a lot of hard
work that got me to that point.

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Um, nothing was ever given to me.

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Nothing was ever handed.

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The same day I graduated high school.

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It was the same day I signed
my national letter of intent.

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I didn't have any offers going
until my last year, you know,

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my last month of high school.

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Um, so the, the, the joy that I played
with in high school was the same joy I

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played with in the big leagues 'cause.

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No matter what the situation was,
I was doing something that I loved.

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And even my last month of high
school, I can remember people

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like, man, you're not worried
about where you're going to school.

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And I'm like, I know.

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Wherever I go, it's gonna be somewhere,
you know, I was gonna go to a juco.

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But, um, you know, just having
things in perspective, man, knowing

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that I got to do what I love.

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But, you know, coming off the
field, you know, I'm a husband,

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I'm a son, I'm a father, I'm a
brother, um, you know, I'm a friend.

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All those things, you know, put
things in perspective to know

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that when I go out here and play.

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I, I can leave everything on the field.

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'cause you know, I even said that when I
signed my, my contract extension with the

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Pirates is baseball doesn't define me.

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You know, it's just, it might be
what I do, like my occupation,

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but baseball will never define me.

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I.

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Um, and, and that's kind of what allowed
me to play with that passion and joy.

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'cause you know, whether I was four
for four or oh for four, you know,

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coming outta the clubhouse, all my
daughters wanted was a sip of my

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Sprite and ride in a car with me.

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You know?

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So at the end of the day, all, all I
can do is go out here for, you know,

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whether it's nine innings, 12 innings.

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Man, play hard, have fun, enjoy it.

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'cause as I said, I, I, I, I, I definitely
fed off of like the fans' energy.

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Clif Marshall: Well, let me ask you,
you know, baseball is a game, uh,

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a little different than football,
although Sam lived it as an NFL player

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and as a college football player.

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Man pressure.

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Right.

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There's a lot of pressure
in sports in general.

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Right.

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And, um, but baseball a little bit
different, you know, in terms of

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you're at the plate by yourself, right?

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You're solo up there.

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How did you handle the pressure
of playing in the major league

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Josh Harrison: Uh, one
knowing that I belong there.

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Um, but as I said, I'm observant.

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And you also gotta understand
baseball is a game that is tough.

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You can do a lot of things right
and still not get rewarded.

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And, um, literally knowing that and
going into every day, knowing that

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every day is it's own and no matter
what you do, there's certain things, a

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lot of things that you can't control.

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Um, that, that definitely helped.

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And I, I don't know if that
comes from me being the youngest

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of three where I didn't really.

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Get my way for a lot of things.

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You know, I'm, I don't get
to choose what's for dinner.

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I might've been the baby of the
family and got, you know, my way.

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But when it came to speaking and
like, you know, hey, I, I was such

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an easygoing, just go with the flow,
but I was also able to observe.

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And in the game of baseball, I've
always observed, you know, riding

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that wave like I played with emotion.

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I, I enjoyed it.

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I had fun, I played with passion.

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But you know, it's the other side
of the game where you struggle and.

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You can't act like that doesn't happen.

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But, you know, knowing that
you, you gotta ride that wave.

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and and for me it was just easy knowing
that, man, if I can just go out here

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and play this game and, and know that
at the end of the day whatever's meant

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to be is be that, that's, that's, that's
what helped me get to the next day.

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'cause if you were about yesterday,
trust me, I've been fourth before and

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came back the next day, it is like,
man, I don't know what happened.

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But that's, that's, that's baseball,
that's sports, that's, that's life.

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Um, what happened in the past?

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Not saying it can't affect the future,
it doesn't have anything to do with

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the future, but if you worried about
that, you're not focused on today

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and what's at, at what's at hand,

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Sam Acho: Cliff, you
want to, you want to ask.

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The next

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Clif Marshall: Yep.

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Yep.

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So, um.

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Jay, Hey, just watching you train
again and being around you, uh,

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as you were making your climb
to the major leagues, right?

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Um, you're not the biggest guy in
terms of height and stature, right?

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I would guess you to be, what,
around five foot eight maybe.

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I don't know what they list you at.

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Maybe you're a little taller
than that, but my point is.

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You were never the biggest athlete,
high school, college, or in the major

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leagues, but I always like to say it's
not the size of the fight in the dog.

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It's the size of the dog in the fight.

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And you had that.

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Where did that come from?

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Josh Harrison: So I gotta stop you first.

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I'm not five eight, I'm six two.

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No,

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no, no.

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But when kids used to
ask me, how tall are you?

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I be like, six two.

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No, you're not.

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But, but, but no, um, no, it, the,
the fact that you said that I, I

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grew up, as I said, with my two older
brothers, Vince and Sean, and, uh,

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I even said it in my announcement
thing, you know, all the block shots,

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you know, uh, strikeouts, you know,
I played against both of my brothers.

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They four and a half and seven
and a half years older than me.

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So as a younger brother,
I was always smaller.

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But then.

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I got amongst my peers.

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I didn't realize I was smaller.

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Like, you know what I mean?

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Just 'cause I was playing
against my older brothers.

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But, um, at the same time, uh, I
started playing T-ball at three.

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The reason that I, I, I played at three
is 'cause my mom coached, they wouldn't

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let me play unless my mom coached.

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'cause when they took me out,
they was like, he's too small.

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And my mom's like, trust me, he can play.

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And the only way that they let
me play was for her to coach.

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I.

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But she's always said something to me when
I was little, was big, don't mean bad.

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So, so when you say that, granted I
had two older brothers, but you know,

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my mom was my first coach at three and
she always said big don't mean bad.

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Clif Marshall: Wow.

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I like that.

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Sam Acho: What did that instill

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in you hearing your mom say that
message to you at such a young age?

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Josh Harrison: That right there was
enough to know that I don't care how

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big you are, how small you are, like
if you got the will to want to do it.

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I mean that's, that's how I took
it was I don't care how big, hey,

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I've been, as you said, cliff, my
whole, whole life, whole career.

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I've probably been, if not the smallest,
one of the two smallest on the team.

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But if you would've asked me or
anybody who played probably the

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biggest on the team, I've gotta be one.

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And it's not from a standpoint, I
think it's just how I carried myself.

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Just 'cause.

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I got two older brothers, it
ain't nothing you can do to me

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that they haven't, you know?

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And then my mom said, just 'cause
you big don't mean nothing.

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And as I got older, they say the
bigger they are, the harder they fall.

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Sam Acho: Oh.

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That's so good.

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So big don't mean bad.

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You're five eight.

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At least claiming six, two maybe.

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I don't know what, I don't know.

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I would say somewhere in the range,
maybe under, I don't know where we at.

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I don't know where we're at exactly,

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Josh Harrison: eight was spikes.

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Sam Acho: Okay.

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With, oh, with spikes.

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5, 6.

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Coach, coach Ft.

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Josh Harrison: Five, six and a half.

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Five, six and a half,

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Sam Acho: five, six and a half,
but a two time MLB All-Star.

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What was it like finding out the
first time you made the All-Star game?

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Josh Harrison: man, 1 1 2 time Allstar.

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That's a blessing.

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Um, never set out to say I want
to be an Allstar this for that.

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But granted, I had been an all
star at every level I've been.

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So it was never a surprise to me,
maybe to other people, but I never did

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anything for anybody else's approval.

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Um, it was always for my own
beliefs and my own thoughts, but

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um, I can remember my first one.

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It was 2014 and I made my debut in 2011.

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That means it took three years,
but not just three years.

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When I say it took three years.

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11, 12, 13.

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I didn't really play like I
was the 25th man on the bench,

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barely getting 200 at bats.

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And that's why I said it helped to have an
uncle who played 11 years, coach for 40.

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Having my brother who's coaching pro
ball at the time, you know, 'cause

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I'm voicing my frustrations as man.

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Everywhere I've gone, I've played
like, and not just played, I've

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exceeded and ball, you know, single
aa, aa, all star, every level.

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I get to the major leagues
and it's like I'm not playing.

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But then when I do play, I.

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Hey, you got one start this
week or once every week?

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Oh, go pinch it.

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And I'm like, man, I've
never done this in my life.

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It's a lot of, it's a, it's an adjustment.

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And I remember that 2014 season, it's
like two weeks into the season, I don't

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have a start yet talking to my brother.

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And he is like, man, just got a feeling.

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We, we are gonna be laughing at
this at the end of the season.

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Like, man, just stay ready.

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Keep doing what you're doing.

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Like, it's nothing like stay ready.

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You know, nothing changed from what
we've done the past three years.

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You gonna get your, you
gonna get your shot.

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I thought my shot was
gonna come Easter Sunday.

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That was my first start.

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Two hits.

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We had a brawl with the
brewers benches cleared.

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I can remember after my first hit,
you know, the benches cleared.

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You know everybody out there
and I'm like, Hey, come on

00:21:30.242 --> 00:21:31.292
man, let's get this game going.

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Like it's my first start.

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Like, hey, already, you
know, already got a hit.

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I'm trying to get another one.

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But hey, hey, if anybody wanna get
active, we can get active, but I

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know ain't nobody trying to fight.

00:21:40.607 --> 00:21:41.537
I'm trying to play.

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So I get two hits and I
don't start the next day.

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I think I go another week without a start.

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Somebody ends up getting
hurt, I end up popping in.

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And long story short, never looked back.

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It's all star selection Sunday.

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We already know Andrew McCutchen going
'cause he's having an outstanding year.

00:21:59.657 --> 00:22:03.257
And Clare Hurler goes, uh, yeah,
we got three all stars this year.

00:22:03.977 --> 00:22:04.397
Coach.

00:22:04.397 --> 00:22:05.357
That's without a doubt.

00:22:06.242 --> 00:22:10.022
We had another one of our relievers,
Tony Watson, who I came up in the minor

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leagues with, who was dealing too.

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He's like, oh yeah, yeah.

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He goes, his third one, uh, well deserved.

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And, uh, I was actually, I think Mike
Mathey, the National League coach,

00:22:20.312 --> 00:22:21.722
selected me as like the utility guy.

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When they said me, I was like,
know, everybody was like, yeah.

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And I'm like, dang, I'm,
I'm sitting there like.

00:22:31.127 --> 00:22:32.057
I gotta call home.

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Like I, you know, like, mom, dad, um,
the All Star game is in Minnesota.

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I just got called.

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I they go, what?

00:22:39.257 --> 00:22:40.007
Oh man.

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Oh man.

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Like, yeah, we gotta get you granny.

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My brother's in like Morgan.

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I call him, it's Sunday.

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You know, they a couple hours behind.

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So you know, if our game's at
one, they tell us at 1130, so

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it's probably 8 30, 9 o'clock.

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What's up bro?

00:22:56.957 --> 00:22:59.537
Hey, remember you told me we was gonna
be laughing at the end of the season?

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Yeah.

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We ain't gonna be laughing.

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We ain't gotta wait.

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I'm a and he like, no, like he, my brother
Vince wasn't able to make it 'cause he

00:23:08.357 --> 00:23:12.827
was coaching, but like, you know, when
I say it was a blessing, I came into

00:23:12.827 --> 00:23:15.042
that season not playing for three years.

00:23:15.142 --> 00:23:16.217
Get my opportunity.

00:23:16.997 --> 00:23:19.967
Getting a chance to play injuries
happen and then, you know, boom,

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in a matter of an instant boom.

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And, uh, you know, the rest was history.

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But, uh, like getting that, I
wouldn't even say getting that call.

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It was in a locker room, I found
out when the team found out.

00:23:29.477 --> 00:23:29.557
Sam Acho: Hmm.

00:23:30.407 --> 00:23:31.847
Josh Harrison: So it, it, it was cool.

00:23:32.237 --> 00:23:32.357
Sam Acho: Hmm.

00:23:34.232 --> 00:23:39.812
Jay, you talk about it happening,
happening in a matter of an instant, but

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I wanna talk about those three years,
even the time in the minor leagues.

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Like what was it like before you
finally got a chance to get a chance?

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Josh Harrison: I had be lying
if I said it wasn't miserable.

00:23:56.567 --> 00:23:56.957
You know?

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'cause you, we, we all from, at this
point, you come up, you go to middle

00:24:02.357 --> 00:24:04.667
school, you go to high school, you go
to college, you everywhere you've gone.

00:24:04.667 --> 00:24:05.567
You've been an everyday player.

00:24:06.407 --> 00:24:10.187
And not only that, you've been
one of the guys and it wasn't

00:24:10.187 --> 00:24:11.537
a humbling experience for me.

00:24:11.537 --> 00:24:15.287
'cause as I said, I, I've been
humble my junior year humbled me.

00:24:15.287 --> 00:24:16.097
We'll get to that.

00:24:16.577 --> 00:24:20.327
But, um, I can remember, as I said,
I'm outperforming people that are

00:24:20.417 --> 00:24:21.887
getting an opportunity ahead of me.

00:24:22.427 --> 00:24:24.797
Oh, we're gonna send you down to Triple A.

00:24:26.237 --> 00:24:26.987
Okay, that's fine.

00:24:26.987 --> 00:24:31.817
But like at 1,200 13, I got sent
down five times before July.

00:24:32.747 --> 00:24:36.317
And usually when you get sent down
it would be, Hey, go work on this.

00:24:36.317 --> 00:24:37.127
Go work on that.

00:24:37.127 --> 00:24:39.827
You know, you having trouble with the
slider, we wanna see you do that better.

00:24:39.827 --> 00:24:43.907
Or Hey, we need you to do better
defensively, so go whatever the case is.

00:24:43.967 --> 00:24:45.287
They're giving you something to work on.

00:24:46.037 --> 00:24:51.407
And I got to 2013 and when I tell
you I got option five times before

00:24:51.407 --> 00:24:54.317
July, I don't know if you know how
options work when you have an option.

00:24:54.317 --> 00:24:58.457
That means throughout the season,
162 games they can send you between

00:24:58.457 --> 00:25:00.857
the minor leagues and the major
leagues as many times as they want.

00:25:01.622 --> 00:25:06.002
Without, you know, Hey, you can come up
tomorrow, we'll use you for one game.

00:25:06.002 --> 00:25:08.312
Hey, you know what, we gotta somebody
we're gonna send you back down.

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And that happened five times before July.

00:25:11.462 --> 00:25:11.552
Clif Marshall: Hmm.

00:25:12.182 --> 00:25:14.912
Josh Harrison: And I'm like,
man, I'm outperforming people.

00:25:14.912 --> 00:25:17.402
But at the same time, like, you
know, I'm staying the course, I,

00:25:17.402 --> 00:25:19.052
I got my uncle, my brother, Hey,
keep doing what you're doing.

00:25:19.052 --> 00:25:20.252
It's 29 other teams.

00:25:20.882 --> 00:25:26.402
But I can remember like being
in AAA 2013, after that fifth

00:25:26.402 --> 00:25:28.862
time I got sent up for one day.

00:25:29.297 --> 00:25:30.227
I remember I pinch it.

00:25:30.227 --> 00:25:34.967
They send me back down the next day and
you get three days to ee the team when

00:25:34.967 --> 00:25:36.347
you get sent down, and I never did.

00:25:36.617 --> 00:25:39.287
But after the third time, after
the second time, the third,

00:25:39.287 --> 00:25:40.517
fourth, and fifth time, I said.

00:25:40.862 --> 00:25:41.972
I'll meet them on the third day.

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I mean, granted, I live in Cincinnati.

00:25:45.122 --> 00:25:46.022
AA was Indianapolis.

00:25:46.022 --> 00:25:49.982
I could wake up the same
day, you know, on day three.

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You know, we ain't talking about
Jesus on the third day, like

00:25:54.632 --> 00:25:58.562
not, but, but on the third day, like,
okay, if I gotta be there today, BP starts

00:25:58.562 --> 00:26:03.422
at two, I'll leave the house at 10 30, 11,
get to the stadium at one, and I'm there.

00:26:03.932 --> 00:26:06.092
But it was also me sending a message like.

00:26:06.587 --> 00:26:07.967
Man, I'm the ultimate team guy.

00:26:07.967 --> 00:26:08.717
Ultimate team player.

00:26:08.717 --> 00:26:09.797
You've never heard me complain.

00:26:09.797 --> 00:26:10.547
Never done anything.

00:26:10.547 --> 00:26:14.507
I've done everything that y'all asked and
more, but at some point, enough is enough.

00:26:14.927 --> 00:26:17.927
And I remember going to my AAA
manager, dean, trainer at the time.

00:26:18.677 --> 00:26:19.607
I can't make this up.

00:26:19.607 --> 00:26:22.187
I go, Dino, get me outta here.

00:26:22.337 --> 00:26:24.707
Like I, I love being a pirate.

00:26:25.247 --> 00:26:28.277
Like I, these are my guys at Triple A.

00:26:28.997 --> 00:26:32.777
But this, I said, every
time I go up, I don't play.

00:26:33.527 --> 00:26:36.377
They want and when I come up I might
pinch hit and then they send me down.

00:26:36.377 --> 00:26:39.107
I said, is that their way of
seeing me as a pinch hitter?

00:26:39.167 --> 00:26:41.747
I say, if they don't want me,
there's 29 other teams that

00:26:41.747 --> 00:26:42.857
I know somebody will use me.

00:26:43.337 --> 00:26:46.697
Like this is me just speaking in
confidence to my AAA manager at the time.

00:26:46.697 --> 00:26:49.217
And you know, he was somebody
that at the time I didn't spend

00:26:49.217 --> 00:26:50.537
much time in the MI minor leagues.

00:26:50.537 --> 00:26:52.337
Like most people spent five, six years.

00:26:52.832 --> 00:26:56.222
I spent like two and a half,
three years, but I was between

00:26:56.222 --> 00:26:57.692
two different organizations.

00:26:57.962 --> 00:27:00.632
So like I was only in one
place for one full year.

00:27:00.632 --> 00:27:03.842
Everything else, I was half a
year here or there, even aaa.

00:27:04.352 --> 00:27:08.372
But Dino was one that was that
liaison and I'm like, Dean, every

00:27:08.372 --> 00:27:11.732
time they sent me down, like
they never said, go work on this.

00:27:11.732 --> 00:27:15.902
You know what their message was to me
when they sent me down, go do what you do.

00:27:15.902 --> 00:27:16.802
We know you're gonna do it.

00:27:18.392 --> 00:27:20.462
So I'm like, why am I being sent down?

00:27:21.797 --> 00:27:23.327
So when you say, how was it?

00:27:23.387 --> 00:27:27.137
Oh, it sucked because it's like I'm
being sent down for, for nothing.

00:27:27.737 --> 00:27:30.647
But I was also a guy that, as
you say, you get three options.

00:27:31.997 --> 00:27:34.127
I was able to be sent down other
people that they sent down, they

00:27:34.127 --> 00:27:36.707
would've had to taken off the roster
and somebody could have claimed.

00:27:37.097 --> 00:27:41.777
So there, there, there's roster things
involved, but it's like, hey, at the end

00:27:41.777 --> 00:27:43.667
of the day, I'm outperforming this dude.

00:27:43.667 --> 00:27:44.657
You can let this dude go.

00:27:45.257 --> 00:27:47.027
You know, that's, that's personal.

00:27:47.027 --> 00:27:48.077
But at the same time.

00:27:48.512 --> 00:27:51.182
You know, that, that's also
understanding the business.

00:27:51.632 --> 00:27:54.572
Um, but it, it was frustrating
having to sit around for three

00:27:54.572 --> 00:27:56.072
years and wait for that opportunity.

00:27:56.072 --> 00:27:59.852
But, you know, I never let it deter
me from, you know, going about

00:27:59.852 --> 00:28:02.492
my work and being ready for when
that opportunity presented itself.

00:28:02.492 --> 00:28:06.212
'cause, you know, everybody's gonna get
an opportunity per se, but, you know,

00:28:06.272 --> 00:28:07.952
might not be as big as somebody else's.

00:28:07.952 --> 00:28:10.802
But one thing I wasn't gonna do
is let it slip through my fingers.

00:28:11.267 --> 00:28:11.957
Sam Acho: Hmm.

00:28:13.252 --> 00:28:13.492
Clif Marshall: Jay?

00:28:13.492 --> 00:28:18.232
Hey, just hearing your story, you
know, uh, I think of commitment, right?

00:28:18.292 --> 00:28:21.802
You were committed to the process
even when you were sent down to the

00:28:21.802 --> 00:28:27.742
minors time and time again, even when
you were in high school and you get

00:28:27.742 --> 00:28:31.882
to the last month of your senior year
and you have zero division one offers.

00:28:32.482 --> 00:28:34.552
I just think of how you
went from that moment.

00:28:35.192 --> 00:28:37.742
To making the Major League
Baseball All Star game.

00:28:37.982 --> 00:28:40.982
And I think that a lot of it is in life.

00:28:41.192 --> 00:28:45.422
It's 10% of what happens
and 90% of how you respond.

00:28:45.932 --> 00:28:51.272
In other words, it's the event plus the
response that's gonna equal the outcome.

00:28:51.722 --> 00:28:56.282
And I think you said it earlier, you
controlled what you could control,

00:28:56.282 --> 00:29:01.202
which is your attitude and your effort,
and that's what it's all about, man.

00:29:01.202 --> 00:29:02.672
So any young listeners.

00:29:03.017 --> 00:29:08.507
Any, anybody just in general, we
can all learn from Jay Hay's story.

00:29:08.597 --> 00:29:13.337
Now, I do wanna ask you, Jay Hay,
obviously you had a great memory of making

00:29:13.337 --> 00:29:18.947
the All-Star game, but aside from that,
what is your greatest memory in baseball?

00:29:21.092 --> 00:29:24.722
Josh Harrison: My greatest memory
in baseball, um, if I was to let

00:29:24.722 --> 00:29:27.842
other people speak for me, they
gonna say Probably my rundowns.

00:29:28.502 --> 00:29:31.502
You know, that, that, that,
that's like, you know, something

00:29:31.502 --> 00:29:32.522
that goes on every year.

00:29:32.552 --> 00:29:35.102
Oh, 10 years to the day, you know?

00:29:35.132 --> 00:29:37.472
Um, but, but honestly.

00:29:38.102 --> 00:29:40.382
One of my most special moments to me.

00:29:40.442 --> 00:29:42.392
Um, and I've had some cool ones.

00:29:42.452 --> 00:29:46.052
Uh, like the Rich Hill moment was
cool, breaking up a perfect game

00:29:46.052 --> 00:29:50.912
with a, with like a home run, um,
walk off home run that, that, that

00:29:50.912 --> 00:29:52.382
or no hit or that, that was cool.

00:29:52.382 --> 00:29:57.752
But honestly, man, I think I've had maybe
seven or eight walk off hits in my career.

00:29:58.202 --> 00:30:01.862
And my very first career walk off
hit in 2012 was on Mother's Day.

00:30:02.132 --> 00:30:03.632
And my mom and grandma were there.

00:30:04.217 --> 00:30:04.307
Clif Marshall: Oh

00:30:04.322 --> 00:30:06.572
Josh Harrison: And Oh,
it, it was a getaway day.

00:30:06.627 --> 00:30:07.862
My, my wife was there too.

00:30:07.862 --> 00:30:08.942
She wasn't pregnant.

00:30:08.972 --> 00:30:10.352
We were engaged at the time.

00:30:10.382 --> 00:30:14.852
But, um, like I remember, uh, I hit
the walk off in the rain, you know,

00:30:14.852 --> 00:30:15.962
I get interviewed on the field.

00:30:15.962 --> 00:30:18.382
I got like the shave, you know, like
the whipped cream, like it's a picture

00:30:18.382 --> 00:30:21.452
of me, and my mom, you know, I'm in a
tunnel with my grandma and them after

00:30:21.452 --> 00:30:22.922
the game, before we catch a flight.

00:30:22.922 --> 00:30:26.132
But like, for me, been a
part of a lot of things.

00:30:26.132 --> 00:30:29.522
But to have like one of my walk offs, my
very first walk off to be on Mother's Day

00:30:29.522 --> 00:30:32.672
and like my mom and grandma to be there,
that's kind of one of my favorite ones.

00:30:33.617 --> 00:30:36.077
Sam Acho: Why, why was
that your favorite one?

00:30:36.827 --> 00:30:38.447
Josh Harrison: Well, my
mom was my first coach.

00:30:38.867 --> 00:30:39.407
Clif Marshall: Wow.

00:30:40.442 --> 00:30:40.712
Josh Harrison: But

00:30:40.712 --> 00:30:44.732
also, you know, it's cool to do things
in front of, in front of family,

00:30:44.912 --> 00:30:48.302
you know, um, but I thought it was
cool for it to be Mother's Day.

00:30:48.392 --> 00:30:50.522
And my grandma lives
in Lexington, Kentucky.

00:30:50.522 --> 00:30:51.992
She really ain't traveling nowhere.

00:30:51.992 --> 00:30:55.322
So for her to be there, my mom to be
there, it's like, oh, it was cool.

00:30:55.322 --> 00:30:59.102
My first walk off hit 2012 when I
wasn't playing every day either.

00:30:59.702 --> 00:31:00.782
So you gotta think.

00:31:00.812 --> 00:31:03.962
They were showing up at games that
I probably wasn't even playing in.

00:31:06.797 --> 00:31:06.917
Clif Marshall: Hmm.

00:31:07.097 --> 00:31:09.947
Josh Harrison: So, so for me to take
that, my first career walk off of

00:31:09.947 --> 00:31:13.697
2012 when I wasn't playing every
day Mother's Day, both of them to be

00:31:13.697 --> 00:31:14.957
there, my mom being my first coach.

00:31:14.957 --> 00:31:15.737
That's kind of cool.

00:31:16.127 --> 00:31:17.087
Sam Acho: That's so awesome.

00:31:18.167 --> 00:31:19.787
Clif Marshall: Well, let
me, oh, go ahead, Sam.

00:31:19.787 --> 00:31:20.117
Sorry

00:31:20.117 --> 00:31:25.067
Sam Acho: what you, you talked
about some of the highs, but on this

00:31:25.067 --> 00:31:26.327
podcast we talk about some of the

00:31:26.327 --> 00:31:27.347
lows as well.

00:31:28.262 --> 00:31:31.682
Talk about overcoming adversity
and you mentioned your junior year.

00:31:32.372 --> 00:31:34.712
Um, what happened junior

00:31:34.802 --> 00:31:36.992
Josh Harrison: that was
my junior year, I think.

00:31:36.992 --> 00:31:39.722
Got me prepared for, for everything.

00:31:39.782 --> 00:31:44.222
Um, my freshman and sophomore year, I
remember as you, as you said, no offers

00:31:44.222 --> 00:31:47.222
going to my final month of high school.

00:31:47.762 --> 00:31:50.072
And you backed that up to go
my freshman year, freshman All

00:31:50.072 --> 00:31:54.362
American at uc, um, followed up
by going to sophomore, sophomore

00:31:54.362 --> 00:31:55.682
year, had another grade campaign.

00:31:55.682 --> 00:31:58.262
Went to the Cape Cod, which is
the most prestigious college

00:31:58.442 --> 00:31:59.852
bat league at the time.

00:32:00.242 --> 00:32:05.582
Um, then come back to my junior year
and I started the fall with a hernia,

00:32:05.612 --> 00:32:07.412
had surgery, missed a lot of the fall.

00:32:08.372 --> 00:32:10.442
Um, so it was a little delayed there.

00:32:10.892 --> 00:32:16.952
And preseason is all talks of, you know,
I might be a first round or second round,

00:32:16.952 --> 00:32:18.872
like just off of my first two years.

00:32:19.532 --> 00:32:23.732
And to set the precedence, I came
in as a freshman, as a shortstop.

00:32:24.062 --> 00:32:25.352
My freshman year I played.

00:32:27.347 --> 00:32:28.187
Six positions.

00:32:28.187 --> 00:32:29.687
Second, short, third, left, right.

00:32:29.687 --> 00:32:30.137
Catcher?

00:32:30.437 --> 00:32:30.707
Yeah.

00:32:30.707 --> 00:32:31.127
Catcher.

00:32:31.652 --> 00:32:31.712
Clif Marshall: Wow.

00:32:32.087 --> 00:32:34.127
Josh Harrison: Don't ever
had to catch three games.

00:32:34.127 --> 00:32:34.607
Emergency.

00:32:34.607 --> 00:32:35.927
Never called a day in my life.

00:32:36.497 --> 00:32:40.427
But, um, so as, as I've done
this, I get to my junior year,

00:32:40.787 --> 00:32:44.388
you know, oh man, first, second,
rounder, whatever the title is.

00:32:45.302 --> 00:32:51.002
And I get off to the worst start of my
life, and I'm talking, some of it is

00:32:51.002 --> 00:32:53.372
coupled by, you know, delayed in the fall.

00:32:53.372 --> 00:32:55.082
But some of it's just, Hey, it's baseball.

00:32:55.082 --> 00:32:57.272
You cannot expect to play
this game and not struggle.

00:32:57.422 --> 00:33:00.392
And I tell people all the time, baseball
does not care about your feelings.

00:33:00.812 --> 00:33:03.962
The sooner you fi sooner you figure
that out, the better off you'll be.

00:33:05.012 --> 00:33:09.452
But, um, like I remember, I'm
talking, I'm hitting first and

00:33:09.452 --> 00:33:11.702
second in lineup to where I'm so bad.

00:33:12.122 --> 00:33:14.432
That they moved me to
like sixth and seventh.

00:33:14.672 --> 00:33:17.192
They like, we got, we gotta
just to clear your head.

00:33:17.432 --> 00:33:21.422
And not only that, they've moved me
to second, second base full time.

00:33:21.902 --> 00:33:24.212
When they go, Hey, scouts
wanna see you play second.

00:33:24.842 --> 00:33:25.292
I'm like, okay.

00:33:25.292 --> 00:33:27.752
The times that I've played in the past
have just been okay, somebody been hurt.

00:33:27.752 --> 00:33:31.172
I'm just kind of flowing through
the first, it's 52 games in college.

00:33:31.172 --> 00:33:36.692
Dude, the first 26 games, I
think I was hitting maybe 200

00:33:36.782 --> 00:33:40.232
with maybe like 12 to 13 errors.

00:33:41.702 --> 00:33:44.552
The errors was throwing
errors, turning double.

00:33:44.582 --> 00:33:48.572
It was just everything was, I didn't
practice at second base in the fall.

00:33:48.572 --> 00:33:51.422
Everything I was learning
on the fly, it was boom.

00:33:51.422 --> 00:33:56.792
And I remember, so my favorite
Bible verses one Peter five, six,

00:33:56.852 --> 00:34:00.392
and it says, humble yourselves,
therefore in the God's mighty hand

00:34:00.512 --> 00:34:02.072
that he may lift you up in due time.

00:34:02.732 --> 00:34:04.082
I took that as.

00:34:04.592 --> 00:34:07.862
Even to this day, it's my, it is
inscribed on all of my gloves.

00:34:07.952 --> 00:34:11.012
I, I wear wristbands that it's
inscribed on my wristbands.

00:34:11.432 --> 00:34:16.382
Um, and it was more of a thing, not that I
wasn't humble, but you know, you hear, oh

00:34:16.382 --> 00:34:17.882
man, being person, oh, that makes sense.

00:34:18.032 --> 00:34:21.392
You know, I'm not that I was feeling
myself, but it's like I was expecting

00:34:21.392 --> 00:34:25.472
myself to, to get off to this start
where it's like I'm the man on the team.

00:34:25.472 --> 00:34:29.282
Like if like we, we struggle and I'm
like, I'm taking a person, like we

00:34:29.282 --> 00:34:30.692
losing 'cause I ain't doing my job.

00:34:30.692 --> 00:34:32.882
Which I mean, realistically we were, but.

00:34:33.602 --> 00:34:35.432
mean, no, I'm, I'm just being honest.

00:34:35.492 --> 00:34:38.822
Um, but, but at the same
time, it's not really me.

00:34:38.882 --> 00:34:39.602
You know what I mean?

00:34:39.657 --> 00:34:44.342
I, I had to get out of that and I kid you
not, I found that Bible verse from that

00:34:44.342 --> 00:34:49.532
moment on, when I tell you my worries,
everything went away so much to the point.

00:34:49.532 --> 00:34:52.892
I started the season over 10 at
the University of Miami, Florida.

00:34:52.892 --> 00:34:55.112
They were preseason ranked
number one by uncle.

00:34:55.757 --> 00:34:59.417
Who was down there for spring training
and came to see us play, I tell you, I

00:34:59.417 --> 00:35:01.367
go, oh, for 10, I can't make this up.

00:35:01.697 --> 00:35:02.477
And we lose.

00:35:02.537 --> 00:35:03.437
They're preseason number one.

00:35:03.437 --> 00:35:05.477
We lose the first game and the
third game by like one or two.

00:35:05.477 --> 00:35:07.577
And I'm like, man, if I just
got a hit here or there, you

00:35:07.577 --> 00:35:08.507
know, I hit some balls decent.

00:35:08.957 --> 00:35:12.497
And I remember I'm oh for 10, talking to
my uncle after the game before we leave.

00:35:12.497 --> 00:35:13.817
You know, I'm, Hey, I'm crying.

00:35:13.847 --> 00:35:16.427
Like this is the first weekend
I've ever not gotten a hit.

00:35:16.577 --> 00:35:21.347
I'm 19, 20 years old, never gone
a weekend without getting a hit.

00:35:21.467 --> 00:35:22.397
I'm oh for 10.

00:35:22.607 --> 00:35:23.687
You know what my uncle said to me?

00:35:24.317 --> 00:35:24.677
He goes.

00:35:25.487 --> 00:35:27.347
You plan on playing pro ball, right?

00:35:27.377 --> 00:35:27.497
Go.

00:35:27.497 --> 00:35:27.617
Yeah.

00:35:27.617 --> 00:35:30.797
He said, this ain't gonna be your,
this ain't gonna be your last O for 10.

00:35:31.607 --> 00:35:35.327
But he goes, he goes, take the
positives, keep having good at bats.

00:35:35.327 --> 00:35:35.897
See where you fi.

00:35:35.927 --> 00:35:36.377
You know what I mean?

00:35:36.377 --> 00:35:39.227
But like he goes, this ain't
gonna be your last O for 10.

00:35:39.227 --> 00:35:43.367
If you want to keep playing fast
forward we go to Louisville.

00:35:44.837 --> 00:35:46.667
I have a week where I go 10 for 10.

00:35:50.372 --> 00:35:54.212
In the season, we lose to Louisville, the
Big East Championship by like two runs.

00:35:54.212 --> 00:35:55.562
We didn't get a at large bid.

00:35:55.562 --> 00:35:57.572
We still got the school
record for wins with 39.

00:35:58.142 --> 00:36:02.162
But I say all that to say when we
go at the end of the season, the end

00:36:02.162 --> 00:36:06.422
of the year banquet at the Big East
Tournament, big East Player of the Year.

00:36:06.422 --> 00:36:08.762
I was Kobe, big East Player of the
Year with Chris Dominguez after

00:36:08.762 --> 00:36:12.962
starting the beginning of the season
where it was like, you know what?

00:36:12.962 --> 00:36:14.762
This dude might be coming
back for his senior year.

00:36:15.677 --> 00:36:19.037
I never thought that, but you know,
those are things that can really happen.

00:36:19.037 --> 00:36:23.207
But telling you, so when I went
through the ringer, I'm talking yes.

00:36:23.207 --> 00:36:27.017
Some of, some of my joy was, I don't wanna
say it was taken away, but the pressures

00:36:27.017 --> 00:36:31.337
of me feeling like I had to do this one
was like, Hey, whatever's meant to be

00:36:31.337 --> 00:36:32.687
is being, and it's all on God's timing.

00:36:36.137 --> 00:36:37.247
Clif Marshall: Man, baseball.

00:36:37.307 --> 00:36:38.537
Josh Harrison: That was,
that was my junior year.

00:36:39.752 --> 00:36:42.092
Clif Marshall: Sam, I know
football teaches you a lot

00:36:42.092 --> 00:36:43.832
about life through adversity.

00:36:43.952 --> 00:36:50.462
Um, but Jay, I gotta tell you, my son's
10 years old and he's a baseball player

00:36:50.462 --> 00:36:52.022
right now and he is playing travel.

00:36:52.022 --> 00:36:53.972
And about a month ago, I.

00:36:54.187 --> 00:36:58.117
He was in a baseball tournament
where he went like, oh, for 12.

00:36:58.147 --> 00:37:04.147
Oh, for 14, and I drove him home
afterwards from this tournament and

00:37:04.147 --> 00:37:07.807
he's in the backseat of my truck
and he's just crying hysterically,

00:37:07.807 --> 00:37:09.577
just upset about his performance.

00:37:10.327 --> 00:37:15.757
And something told me, cliff, you need
to take your phone and videotape this.

00:37:16.327 --> 00:37:16.927
So I did.

00:37:16.927 --> 00:37:20.647
I took my phone and I videotaped
him crying and obviously had the

00:37:20.647 --> 00:37:22.717
conversation with him that, you know what?

00:37:23.102 --> 00:37:25.532
Just gotta keep showing
up like you did right.

00:37:25.832 --> 00:37:26.822
And keep battling.

00:37:27.332 --> 00:37:32.252
And literally a week later they were in
the championship game up in Indianapolis

00:37:32.252 --> 00:37:37.322
in this huge tournament, and the
championship was on the line and he was

00:37:37.322 --> 00:37:42.812
at bat and he gets a walk off double to
win the game, to win the championship.

00:37:43.502 --> 00:37:49.112
And I also had that videotaped
and I put the video of him crying.

00:37:51.377 --> 00:37:55.607
Seven days later, him hitting
the walk-off, uh, double

00:37:55.607 --> 00:37:56.927
to win the championship.

00:37:57.377 --> 00:38:01.787
And I did that for him to teach him that
this isn't gonna be the last time you face

00:38:01.787 --> 00:38:06.257
adversity, especially if you play baseball
and you just gotta keep showing up.

00:38:06.677 --> 00:38:11.897
Just like Josh Harrison did all those
times at Cincinnati Bearcat and throughout

00:38:11.897 --> 00:38:13.402
his MA Major League baseball career.

00:38:14.402 --> 00:38:15.542
Josh Harrison: No, that
that's right though.

00:38:15.542 --> 00:38:20.612
'cause literally what you said, that's,
Hey, granted younger, you know, they

00:38:20.612 --> 00:38:21.812
gotta wait a week till they played.

00:38:22.292 --> 00:38:24.032
But imagine yourself being
in the major leagues.

00:38:24.032 --> 00:38:26.222
You go, oh, for four with four strikeouts.

00:38:27.032 --> 00:38:27.662
Guess what?

00:38:27.692 --> 00:38:31.112
You worrying about that tomorrow you gonna
go o for four, for four sharks A gear?

00:38:31.772 --> 00:38:34.922
You know, I, I, I've had, I,
I've literally had I think two

00:38:34.922 --> 00:38:36.302
stretches of like o for 20.

00:38:38.012 --> 00:38:43.262
So, so when my uncle said O oh for 10,
I mean, I got the O for 20 and I'm like.

00:38:44.267 --> 00:38:46.067
Yeah, I'm the worst player in
the, you know, at the time.

00:38:46.067 --> 00:38:48.467
I'm like, man, and then you
get your first hit, you know,

00:38:48.527 --> 00:38:49.487
it happens to a lot of people.

00:38:49.487 --> 00:38:51.617
You get the first and guys
are like, gimme the ball.

00:38:51.617 --> 00:38:53.297
Like it's your first hit
and guys are laughing.

00:38:53.297 --> 00:38:54.977
They'd be like, why you ask for the ball?

00:38:55.187 --> 00:38:56.837
Like man, I was o for my last 20.

00:38:56.837 --> 00:39:01.517
And your teammates be like, you
were meaning it's bigger of a deal

00:39:01.517 --> 00:39:04.967
to you 'cause you, but the O for
20 is really not that big in the

00:39:04.967 --> 00:39:05.957
grand scheme, you know what I mean?

00:39:06.197 --> 00:39:08.687
But we make it that big
'cause we tie it to results.

00:39:08.687 --> 00:39:11.807
When, how many of those O for
four, you know, out of those 14,

00:39:11.837 --> 00:39:13.067
he probably hit some balls hard.

00:39:13.252 --> 00:39:13.672
Clif Marshall: Mm-hmm.

00:39:14.102 --> 00:39:14.702
Josh Harrison: You know what I mean?

00:39:14.702 --> 00:39:18.452
So that's where this game is
like, it's, it's so tough.

00:39:18.482 --> 00:39:21.782
'cause most sports and things,
you get result oriented.

00:39:21.782 --> 00:39:27.122
And sometimes baseball is the one that's
like, you like results, but sometimes the

00:39:27.122 --> 00:39:29.402
result might not be the true telltale.

00:39:29.612 --> 00:39:32.192
'cause if you hit a line drive like
you did what you were supposed to,

00:39:32.912 --> 00:39:35.342
you know, like you just
didn't get rewarded and.

00:39:35.972 --> 00:39:38.612
Trust me, you play long enough and you
get enough of those, you're gonna have

00:39:38.612 --> 00:39:41.852
a couple times like, nah, I'd rather
do everything wrong and get rewarded.

00:39:43.232 --> 00:39:43.772
Like, you know what I mean?

00:39:43.772 --> 00:39:47.432
You, you, you hit 10 line drives and
you see your teammate come up and

00:39:47.702 --> 00:39:51.512
you know, he done stepped out the way
and accidentally checked, swung, and

00:39:51.512 --> 00:39:52.982
the ball and went and got a base hit.

00:39:52.982 --> 00:39:55.767
And you're like, God, why can't you know?

00:39:55.892 --> 00:40:01.502
You know, you start seeing guys go God,
and it's like, hey, it wasn't meant to be.

00:40:03.992 --> 00:40:05.072
Sam Acho: But I do have a question though.

00:40:05.072 --> 00:40:05.462
How do you

00:40:05.462 --> 00:40:07.652
get, and this is just, like I
said, I, I played football, right?

00:40:07.652 --> 00:40:08.642
I played baseball one year.

00:40:08.642 --> 00:40:11.342
I was a guy in my fourth grade that
would close my eyes to try to swing.

00:40:11.462 --> 00:40:14.582
I was at second base and they hit a ball,
hit me in the, in the hand or the head

00:40:14.582 --> 00:40:15.872
somewhere, and I was like, no, I'm done.

00:40:15.872 --> 00:40:16.862
Take me off the field.

00:40:17.252 --> 00:40:18.962
I, you know, I had a
fantasy baseball team.

00:40:18.962 --> 00:40:19.952
It was about as far as I went.

00:40:20.282 --> 00:40:22.862
Um, but, um, how do
you get out of a slump?

00:40:25.262 --> 00:40:28.772
Josh Harrison: I, I'll be honest,
I, I can't really say how to get out

00:40:28.772 --> 00:40:31.352
of one, but like realistically, you.

00:40:32.192 --> 00:40:33.272
Same what Cliff has said.

00:40:33.272 --> 00:40:34.472
You just gotta keep pushing.

00:40:34.982 --> 00:40:38.882
But like sometimes we put ourselves
in more of a slump trying to chase a

00:40:38.882 --> 00:40:40.892
result, which is what I was saying.

00:40:40.892 --> 00:40:43.622
Like, you know, he was
upset, he didn't get a hit.

00:40:43.622 --> 00:40:47.072
He probably would've been like, man, I'll
go up there and bat with my hands the

00:40:47.072 --> 00:40:48.542
other way if it mean I'm gonna get a hit.

00:40:48.542 --> 00:40:49.382
Like, you know what I mean?

00:40:49.382 --> 00:40:52.232
And it's like, but in the grand
scheme of things in the long run,

00:40:52.232 --> 00:40:53.942
is that really beneficial for you?

00:40:54.332 --> 00:40:56.762
So sometimes getting out of a
slump is just staying the course.

00:40:56.912 --> 00:40:59.372
Like that's, it's a, it's
a lot of uncontrollables.

00:41:00.122 --> 00:41:02.762
Now there, there are times in a slump
where it's like, oh yeah, you're in a

00:41:02.762 --> 00:41:04.922
slump 'cause you're not seeing the ball.

00:41:04.922 --> 00:41:10.112
Or you're not like, but like nine
times out of 10, hey, you gotta look.

00:41:10.652 --> 00:41:11.882
Don't look at the result.

00:41:11.942 --> 00:41:12.242
You know?

00:41:12.272 --> 00:41:14.492
'cause sometimes the result
is not what it really is.

00:41:14.492 --> 00:41:17.282
You just gotta, you know what the
process, if the process was there,

00:41:17.312 --> 00:41:20.102
just continue to trust it, which
is what we say trust the process.

00:41:20.482 --> 00:41:20.562
Sam Acho: Hmm.

00:41:20.867 --> 00:41:21.707
That's so good.

00:41:22.037 --> 00:41:23.597
Uh, I want to transition us.

00:41:23.957 --> 00:41:24.177
Josh Harrison: The.

00:41:25.217 --> 00:41:28.607
Sam Acho: We talked about the ups, talked
about the downs, talked about family, uh,

00:41:28.607 --> 00:41:30.287
but I want to talk about your teammates.

00:41:31.157 --> 00:41:37.192
Who has been your favorite
teammate to play with and

00:41:37.192 --> 00:41:37.392
why?

00:41:37.547 --> 00:41:40.427
Josh Harrison: I've had, I've had, I've
had some great teammates, honestly.

00:41:40.427 --> 00:41:41.237
I have man.

00:41:41.297 --> 00:41:51.197
Um, but, uh, man, it might be Kutch like,
like Andrew McCutchen, um, just from a

00:41:51.197 --> 00:41:53.327
standpoint, like he and I, we still talk.

00:41:53.327 --> 00:41:54.077
That's my dog.

00:41:54.077 --> 00:41:56.837
But, uh, like I, I, I know.

00:41:57.242 --> 00:42:01.202
There were things we were able to do
for each other, playing alongside to

00:42:01.202 --> 00:42:06.392
where like, I mean, Kutch is Kutch,
like he was a five time all star.

00:42:06.452 --> 00:42:08.162
Um, you know what I mean?

00:42:08.162 --> 00:42:12.812
For, for the first nine years he
was there, he was MVP, and uh,

00:42:12.872 --> 00:42:16.022
you know, I don't know how it is
in football and basketball, but

00:42:16.292 --> 00:42:17.942
as I said, I was traded over.

00:42:18.242 --> 00:42:22.232
I come to the major leagues, I don't know
anybody when I say I don't know anybody.

00:42:22.877 --> 00:42:25.277
I don't know anybody 'cause I
wasn't in spring training in big

00:42:25.277 --> 00:42:26.207
league camp with these dudes.

00:42:26.207 --> 00:42:30.437
So when I made my debut, I'm walking
in the clubhouse with 23 other guys

00:42:30.437 --> 00:42:34.187
that I've seen, you know, we've seen
in passing just from me coming to

00:42:34.187 --> 00:42:35.927
be an extra body in training camp.

00:42:35.927 --> 00:42:36.257
But like I.

00:42:36.977 --> 00:42:39.797
Nobody to be like, oh yeah,
hey, hey J hey, what's good man?

00:42:40.157 --> 00:42:41.057
Let's go grab some breakfast.

00:42:41.057 --> 00:42:43.517
Or like, like, I don't know anybody.

00:42:43.997 --> 00:42:47.117
So from the time of getting
there and to see how he

00:42:47.117 --> 00:42:48.377
responded, Hey, what's good bro?

00:42:48.377 --> 00:42:48.707
You good?

00:42:48.737 --> 00:42:49.487
Hey, alright.

00:42:49.487 --> 00:42:52.997
Hey, the picture thrown tonight,
like, not that he took me under

00:42:52.997 --> 00:42:56.597
his wing, but it was just like,
dang, my locker was next to his.

00:42:56.597 --> 00:42:58.727
And then, you know, that
relationship just grew.

00:42:59.147 --> 00:43:03.887
Um, you know, we got to a point
to where 2014, every time he had

00:43:03.887 --> 00:43:07.907
an RBI, he was driving me in like
like we, we caught ourselves.

00:43:07.907 --> 00:43:08.507
Soul Train.

00:43:08.597 --> 00:43:10.217
Our handshake was the high five.

00:43:10.427 --> 00:43:14.207
Like, if, if you watch the, whenever
I hit a home run or he hit a home run,

00:43:14.207 --> 00:43:17.927
we come at home play and we do the,
ah, that like we, that was, and it

00:43:17.927 --> 00:43:23.147
was a thing of like finding somebody
that played with the same joy as you.

00:43:23.177 --> 00:43:23.657
Like, you know what I

00:43:23.657 --> 00:43:23.807
mean?

00:43:23.807 --> 00:43:26.597
It's like, and that's
why our team was good.

00:43:26.627 --> 00:43:27.377
'cause if you got.

00:43:28.532 --> 00:43:31.532
A bunch of guys that are playing
free and loose like getting after it.

00:43:31.532 --> 00:43:36.602
But it's like, bro, we having fun that
those are the people you wanna play with.

00:43:36.602 --> 00:43:37.982
'cause that's like being in the backyard.

00:43:39.362 --> 00:43:43.172
And, and, and I think, I think vice
versa, I was able to help him relax

00:43:43.172 --> 00:43:46.502
'cause he didn't feel he had to do all
of the, trying to get everybody relaxed.

00:43:46.532 --> 00:43:47.822
'cause that's just naturally what I do.

00:43:48.242 --> 00:43:49.112
But also think.

00:43:49.292 --> 00:43:50.402
You know it.

00:43:50.642 --> 00:43:51.692
That's just who I am.

00:43:51.842 --> 00:43:54.722
So it also allowed me to come into a
space to where I was able to be me.

00:43:54.722 --> 00:43:59.672
So wherever I went from there, I mean,
I was always gonna be me, but to not

00:43:59.672 --> 00:44:02.372
really know anybody and then just hop
in, you know, they could have looked

00:44:02.372 --> 00:44:03.872
at me like, man, you wearing number 62?

00:44:03.872 --> 00:44:04.322
Who is you?

00:44:05.217 --> 00:44:05.297
Clif Marshall: Hmm.

00:44:05.462 --> 00:44:07.652
Josh Harrison: I'm, I'm the new
offensive guard for the Steelers.

00:44:07.652 --> 00:44:08.642
I just came over here.

00:44:08.642 --> 00:44:11.372
That's, that's, that's
why I'm in number 62.

00:44:11.402 --> 00:44:14.822
But, you know, um, just, just one
of those things where it's like

00:44:14.822 --> 00:44:20.042
when you can find somebody that has
kind of helped you get to that next

00:44:20.042 --> 00:44:24.422
level, whether it be bro, him, he
literally helped me in Tony Washington.

00:44:24.422 --> 00:44:25.622
We got named for the All-Star Game.

00:44:25.622 --> 00:44:28.652
That story that I was telling you, Tony
Watson found out that morning too, and

00:44:28.652 --> 00:44:30.422
he was like, Hey, I got y'all, man.

00:44:30.452 --> 00:44:32.822
This is so you wanna get to,
it's like, alright, cool.

00:44:32.822 --> 00:44:33.272
Yeah.

00:44:33.272 --> 00:44:33.332
Yeah.

00:44:33.692 --> 00:44:35.432
He said, yeah, the team gonna
make sure we fly out there.

00:44:35.522 --> 00:44:36.752
Hey Ku, we just following you bro.

00:44:36.752 --> 00:44:38.432
Just tell us what, you know what I mean?

00:44:38.642 --> 00:44:41.402
And it's, it's a lot of things behind
the scenes that, you know, it's

00:44:41.402 --> 00:44:43.532
bigger than baseball, especially
when you got your family involved.

00:44:43.532 --> 00:44:46.652
Not only that, uh, it's more
than just me and t like his wife.

00:44:46.652 --> 00:44:51.752
My wife still talk, his parents, my
parents, um, you know, we all got kids.

00:44:51.752 --> 00:44:54.422
They grew up together, you know,
kind of around the same age.

00:44:54.422 --> 00:44:57.212
So it's one of those things where,
you know, he's just won a name.

00:44:57.212 --> 00:44:59.312
A lot of guys from
Pittsburgh, Pedro Avarez.

00:44:59.642 --> 00:45:04.742
Now, you know, t Pedro, IEZ, Jordy,
Mercer, Jordy's, my dog too, me and him,

00:45:05.072 --> 00:45:06.482
we were salt and pepper up the middle.

00:45:07.682 --> 00:45:10.922
Every, every, every time we turn to
double play, they play salt and pepper.

00:45:10.922 --> 00:45:14.822
So like, that's just, just a few people
that I can name off the top of my head.

00:45:14.822 --> 00:45:16.922
But I've had some, some
cool teammates, man.

00:45:18.422 --> 00:45:19.742
Clif Marshall: I've gotta ask you, Jay.

00:45:19.742 --> 00:45:22.292
Hey, born and raised in Cincinnati, Ohio.

00:45:23.072 --> 00:45:25.862
I know when you were with the
Pirates, you would always come back to

00:45:25.862 --> 00:45:29.852
Cincinnati and you would play against
the Reds at Great American ballpark.

00:45:30.362 --> 00:45:34.202
What was it like running out on that
field in front of your friends and family?

00:45:36.212 --> 00:45:36.812
Josh Harrison: Exciting.

00:45:37.022 --> 00:45:41.282
Um, and once again, just a blessing
for everything to come full circle.

00:45:41.402 --> 00:45:45.542
Um, you know, as I said, my
parents able to come see me in

00:45:45.542 --> 00:45:47.282
Pittsburgh, you know, see my family.

00:45:47.282 --> 00:45:52.022
But, uh, for those that weren't able, you
know, it was still cool to, I think not, I

00:45:52.022 --> 00:45:53.852
don't think I know one game they had, uh.

00:45:54.572 --> 00:45:57.152
It was actually like Josh Harrison
day where they brung like my high

00:45:57.152 --> 00:45:58.562
school baseball team on the field.

00:45:58.562 --> 00:45:59.912
My mom, dad coaches,

00:46:00.452 --> 00:46:03.902
granted I was a visit, granted I was
a visiting player, but they had a

00:46:03.902 --> 00:46:07.742
Josh Harrison day where my team was
on there, and it was just like, man,

00:46:07.742 --> 00:46:10.622
for, you know, it, it just brung
something back to me to where it's

00:46:10.622 --> 00:46:11.672
like, you know, it's bigger than me.

00:46:11.792 --> 00:46:15.392
Um, granted, I've always felt that
way when I was out there playing.

00:46:15.392 --> 00:46:17.192
It was always more than
just representing myself.

00:46:17.192 --> 00:46:20.732
You know, I took pretty much parts of
me and all my loved ones, Whitney, I.

00:46:21.152 --> 00:46:23.792
But, um, as you said, you can't
take everybody with you, so to be

00:46:23.792 --> 00:46:27.512
able to come here and, and, and, and
put on for 'em was, was definitely

00:46:27.512 --> 00:46:28.622
something I didn't take lightly.

00:46:28.682 --> 00:46:30.872
I mean, I don't think it's
a coincidence that my only

00:46:31.322 --> 00:46:33.032
multi home run game came here.

00:46:34.412 --> 00:46:36.302
Only career, multi home run game.

00:46:36.542 --> 00:46:39.632
Came a great American in the second
home run, tied it up in like the ninth

00:46:39.632 --> 00:46:43.352
inning, you know, like family up in
the crowd right above, you know, so

00:46:43.352 --> 00:46:46.622
it's like, Hey, if I'm gonna do it
anywhere, I would love to do it at home.

00:46:46.622 --> 00:46:47.222
And it was cool.

00:46:50.222 --> 00:46:53.612
Clif Marshall: Well, let me ask
you, uh, as we finish up here, um,

00:46:54.002 --> 00:46:58.382
Josh, I think, uh, the one thing
that I think about with you and Sam

00:46:58.382 --> 00:47:01.832
both is that, you know, I lived.

00:47:02.597 --> 00:47:06.557
You know, my, uh, joy through
watching you play, right?

00:47:06.557 --> 00:47:09.587
If you stepped up to the plate
and you hit a home run, like, man,

00:47:09.587 --> 00:47:12.197
I'm going crazy watching it on tv.

00:47:12.197 --> 00:47:17.447
When Sam played in the NFL, he got a big
sock as a strength and conditioning coach.

00:47:18.047 --> 00:47:19.817
I'm going crazy because.

00:47:20.342 --> 00:47:21.872
In some indirect way.

00:47:21.872 --> 00:47:24.032
I feel like I played a small part in that.

00:47:24.572 --> 00:47:28.952
So watching you throughout your 13
years as a major league baseball

00:47:28.952 --> 00:47:31.772
player brought me so much joy.

00:47:32.492 --> 00:47:37.172
Um, and I just want to commend you
because the way you went about it, right?

00:47:37.172 --> 00:47:42.152
The story that you share today about how
you had to hustle for everything, right?

00:47:42.242 --> 00:47:45.002
I know that they use that word
a lot with you as they described

00:47:45.002 --> 00:47:46.352
you as a ma, major League baseball

00:47:46.372 --> 00:47:48.472
Josh Harrison: they, they,
they, they made shirts.

00:47:48.562 --> 00:47:52.042
I wore number five in Pittsburgh that
said hustle, but the s was a five

00:47:52.042 --> 00:47:53.812
with, with my beard character on.

00:47:53.812 --> 00:47:54.022
Yeah.

00:47:54.027 --> 00:47:58.012
There, there was, I mean, I mean, I
mean, and you said my most memorable

00:47:58.012 --> 00:48:01.102
moment walk off hit, but I, I
mean, not that I forget about it.

00:48:01.562 --> 00:48:03.782
Which I do just 'cause
it came natural to me.

00:48:03.782 --> 00:48:07.772
But I mean, one of my favorite awards is
being the Hard and Hustle award winner

00:48:07.772 --> 00:48:10.232
of the whole major leagues in 2014.

00:48:10.442 --> 00:48:11.852
So, you know what I mean?

00:48:11.852 --> 00:48:14.762
It's like I didn't get that just
off of like, oh, I, I got it.

00:48:14.767 --> 00:48:16.022
No, I, I just play hard.

00:48:16.022 --> 00:48:17.462
I play hard, I play smart.

00:48:18.062 --> 00:48:21.452
But, um, you know, as you said, it
just kind of comes with the territory,

00:48:21.452 --> 00:48:22.772
not taking anything for granted.

00:48:23.537 --> 00:48:24.047
Sam Acho: Hmm.

00:48:24.197 --> 00:48:24.647
Clif Marshall: Well,

00:48:24.692 --> 00:48:26.942
Josh Harrison: yeah, that, that
resilience, I mean, I spoke on it and

00:48:26.942 --> 00:48:29.612
I mean, I didn't really get to get,
to get into it even in my big league

00:48:29.612 --> 00:48:34.442
career, but I mean, two broken hands, 96
miles an hour torn UCL in my thumb from

00:48:34.442 --> 00:48:38.762
stealing the bag torn semi tendon in
my hamstring that they had to cut out.

00:48:38.822 --> 00:48:43.292
So, but my junior year of, as I said,
going back to that Bible verse and all

00:48:43.292 --> 00:48:46.982
that helped me in that time, you know,
obviously to know that whatever was

00:48:46.982 --> 00:48:48.302
meant to happen is meant to happen.

00:48:49.757 --> 00:48:53.087
Clif Marshall: Well, not, not
only, uh, Josh watching you as a

00:48:53.087 --> 00:48:56.747
player, but also watching you as a
husband, watching you as a father,

00:48:57.137 --> 00:48:58.592
watching you as a follower of Christ.

00:48:59.147 --> 00:49:04.577
That's what I'm most impressed with
and that's why, you know, I just, uh,

00:49:05.237 --> 00:49:09.317
you know, think the world of you and
the journey you've been on, and I just

00:49:09.317 --> 00:49:13.517
pray in your next chapter, uh, you'll
continue to have influence, continue

00:49:13.517 --> 00:49:18.017
to have success, and keep sharing your
story, brother, because it is so impactful

00:49:18.017 --> 00:49:19.397
and so many people need to hear it.

00:49:20.472 --> 00:49:20.552
Sam Acho: Hmm.

00:49:21.467 --> 00:49:25.127
I will say this, Josh, before we
let you go, there's a comment that

00:49:25.127 --> 00:49:27.767
you made about halfway through the
podcast and that stuck with me.

00:49:28.697 --> 00:49:33.017
You said, and it might've been the year
where you made the All Star team, but

00:49:33.017 --> 00:49:36.647
you said, baseball will never define me.

00:49:36.872 --> 00:49:37.092
Clif Marshall: Mm.

00:49:38.477 --> 00:49:38.747
Sam Acho: Mind

00:49:38.747 --> 00:49:40.337
you, 13 years.

00:49:40.817 --> 00:49:46.007
Two time Allstar walk off Homers
ending, uh, amazing rundowns,

00:49:46.157 --> 00:49:48.167
uh, uh, ending no hitters.

00:49:48.527 --> 00:49:50.987
But you said baseball
will never define me.

00:49:52.667 --> 00:49:54.017
What will define you?

00:49:55.817 --> 00:49:58.487
Josh Harrison: My legacy, I
get off the field, you know.

00:50:00.047 --> 00:50:03.317
Helping people and just showing up,
being a good friend, being a good

00:50:03.317 --> 00:50:07.157
person, being a good father, being a
good husband, um, and not that baseball.

00:50:07.162 --> 00:50:08.807
I, I know it comes with
the territory people.

00:50:08.867 --> 00:50:12.077
Oh, Josh Harrison, who played
baseball, but like, I don't, I don't

00:50:12.077 --> 00:50:13.547
want that to be the definition.

00:50:13.547 --> 00:50:14.477
Oh no.

00:50:14.477 --> 00:50:17.657
I, I used to joke all the time,
like, you know, people, like, what

00:50:17.657 --> 00:50:18.827
do you do wanna do when you're done?

00:50:18.827 --> 00:50:19.732
I said, I wanna be normal.

00:50:19.922 --> 00:50:23.492
You know, I, you know, I, you
know, we go on the road a lot

00:50:23.582 --> 00:50:25.052
and we eat at different places.

00:50:25.052 --> 00:50:27.542
I like to eat at mom and pop shops
'cause you know, it's like home.

00:50:27.842 --> 00:50:30.932
But you know, I walk in and,
oh, I got a table for you.

00:50:30.932 --> 00:50:31.532
What would you like?

00:50:31.532 --> 00:50:33.062
You know, sit down and I order.

00:50:33.062 --> 00:50:36.572
And you see, hey there, go Bill And
Jen, Hey, what's go, you know, they've

00:50:36.572 --> 00:50:39.932
been there for 40 years and it's like,
that's a sense of normalcy that is like.

00:50:42.482 --> 00:50:46.382
Regardless of what they do or what
their occupation is, that's just showing

00:50:46.382 --> 00:50:47.762
up and being present in the moment.

00:50:47.762 --> 00:50:51.332
And not being a CEO or being
this like your occupation is

00:50:51.332 --> 00:50:54.002
your occupation, but it's so much
more to life than what that is.

00:50:54.002 --> 00:50:54.362
And

00:50:54.662 --> 00:50:57.932
that was pretty much what I
wanted to get across was I love

00:50:57.932 --> 00:50:59.372
what I do playing this sport, but

00:51:00.212 --> 00:51:03.122
it ain't gonna have me in a mode where
you see me out here and it's like,

00:51:03.122 --> 00:51:04.502
that's the end all be all for me.

00:51:04.502 --> 00:51:06.992
You know where to, to where
my emotions and stuff are tied

00:51:06.992 --> 00:51:08.162
to my success on the field.

00:51:08.932 --> 00:51:09.012
Sam Acho: hmm.

00:51:09.347 --> 00:51:12.227
And then last one for me, you've
said this in your retirement post,

00:51:12.227 --> 00:51:15.287
you also said it at the beginning
of the podcast, it's Britney season.

00:51:16.487 --> 00:51:19.037
What is, what does
Britney season look like?

00:51:20.317 --> 00:51:20.762
Josh Harrison: I dunno.

00:51:20.762 --> 00:51:22.052
It, it involved me being.

00:51:22.817 --> 00:51:28.247
A little bit of volleyball coach,
uh, you know, drop off and pick up

00:51:28.262 --> 00:51:30.887
at, at dance practice volleyball.

00:51:30.977 --> 00:51:35.147
Um, all the things that she had
to, you know, use her gas for now,

00:51:35.147 --> 00:51:37.667
I guess I'm using my gas money
and getting the mileage on my car.

00:51:40.637 --> 00:51:41.207
Sam Acho: Awesome.

00:51:41.207 --> 00:51:42.077
Awesome, man.

00:51:42.077 --> 00:51:47.627
Well, uh, Josh, thank you so
much for not only your legacy on.

00:51:48.872 --> 00:51:51.482
On the mound or on the
in, in the ballpark.

00:51:51.842 --> 00:51:54.812
Um, but just the joy you played with.

00:51:54.812 --> 00:51:57.182
Like, I'm a guy who played with a lot
of joy and even, like I said, just

00:51:57.182 --> 00:52:01.082
watching you, like you're always, you
always have a smile on your face, but

00:52:01.082 --> 00:52:04.832
it doesn't mean you didn't go through
some hard times, you know what I mean?

00:52:04.832 --> 00:52:05.072
Like,

00:52:05.102 --> 00:52:07.862
you almost like brushed over, it's
like, yeah, 96 miles per hour and

00:52:07.862 --> 00:52:12.362
a broken hand and a this, and it's
like, but you still played with joy

00:52:14.492 --> 00:52:15.812
and there's something to that.

00:52:16.802 --> 00:52:17.162
Josh Harrison: And.

00:52:17.237 --> 00:52:21.707
Sam Acho: who you may never, ever,
ever, ever meet, watched you and are

00:52:21.707 --> 00:52:24.047
watching you, were watching you, and
are still watching you and saying,

00:52:24.047 --> 00:52:25.967
man, I wanna play like Jay Hay.

00:52:26.927 --> 00:52:27.377
So

00:52:27.377 --> 00:52:28.997
on behalf of Yeah, go ahead.

00:52:28.997 --> 00:52:29.087
Go

00:52:29.222 --> 00:52:29.867
Josh Harrison: No, no, no.

00:52:29.867 --> 00:52:30.737
I, I appreciate it.

00:52:30.737 --> 00:52:33.617
And what I was gonna say, not to cut
you off, but I just didn't wanna lose

00:52:33.617 --> 00:52:35.147
my train of thought when you say that.

00:52:35.267 --> 00:52:36.542
Just another shout out to my mom.

00:52:36.542 --> 00:52:40.217
I got some dope parents, my, my mom, my,
my dad, big Vince, and my mom Bonita.

00:52:40.307 --> 00:52:41.777
Um, love 'em dearly.

00:52:41.777 --> 00:52:45.467
But, uh, even then when I was, I
can remember, as I said, talking

00:52:45.467 --> 00:52:46.847
to my uncle and my brother.

00:52:47.597 --> 00:52:51.827
My mom, she flat out told me too,
and I remember she had said, listen

00:52:51.827 --> 00:52:53.117
to Kirk Franklin song, smile.

00:52:53.147 --> 00:52:54.587
'cause no matter what I smile.

00:52:54.587 --> 00:52:57.347
But she said one thing, don't
ever let him take your joy.

00:52:57.497 --> 00:53:01.697
So you saying that, my mom always said,
even though you, she said, I know.

00:53:02.117 --> 00:53:02.417
I know.

00:53:02.417 --> 00:53:02.867
It's tough.

00:53:02.867 --> 00:53:04.727
But that's part of it too.

00:53:04.787 --> 00:53:06.587
It's just always, you know,
having somebody that can keep

00:53:06.587 --> 00:53:09.737
you grounded, you know, and she
don't ever let 'em take the joy

00:53:10.637 --> 00:53:12.377
Sam Acho: Well, you didn't,
you never didn't, cliff.

00:53:12.377 --> 00:53:12.737
Go ahead.

00:53:12.977 --> 00:53:13.547
Say something.

00:53:13.842 --> 00:53:17.052
Clif Marshall: Yeah, I think
joy, you know, it's Jesus first,

00:53:17.112 --> 00:53:19.032
others second, yourself third.

00:53:19.092 --> 00:53:21.522
And I think you've lived
your life like that, Josh.

00:53:21.522 --> 00:53:25.632
And I think for our listeners out there,
like in order to have joy, I think we

00:53:25.632 --> 00:53:27.552
have to have those three things in check.

00:53:27.552 --> 00:53:29.322
It's Jesus others.

00:53:29.687 --> 00:53:30.347
Yourself.

00:53:30.347 --> 00:53:32.027
That's, that stands for Joy.

00:53:33.232 --> 00:53:33.312
Sam Acho: Hmm.

00:53:33.557 --> 00:53:34.217
And you lived it?

00:53:34.847 --> 00:53:36.077
Josh Harrison: Hey, I'm gonna use that.

00:53:37.337 --> 00:53:37.727
Sam Acho: Yeah.

00:53:37.727 --> 00:53:38.627
Josh Harrison: Don't hold against me.

00:53:38.627 --> 00:53:39.287
But I like that.

00:53:39.672 --> 00:53:41.507
Clif Marshall: I, I, I st I stole it.

00:53:41.507 --> 00:53:42.167
I stole it.

00:53:42.167 --> 00:53:43.337
I think that the basket,

00:53:44.112 --> 00:53:46.247
Josh Harrison: Well, it ain't gonna
be mad at me for recycling it.

00:53:46.307 --> 00:53:46.667
Clif Marshall: right?

00:53:46.907 --> 00:53:47.957
Just recycle it.

00:53:48.197 --> 00:53:52.367
I think I gotta give credit to the,
uh, to the Baylor basketball coach.

00:53:52.427 --> 00:53:55.007
Um, I think that the
Baylor basketball team.

00:53:55.547 --> 00:53:59.087
Actually uses that, um,
within their team dynamics.

00:53:59.207 --> 00:54:01.097
And so, uh, that's kind
of where I got that from.

00:54:02.417 --> 00:54:02.807
Sam Acho: Yeah.

00:54:03.587 --> 00:54:03.707
Yeah.

00:54:03.707 --> 00:54:08.777
Well, Josh, on behalf of myself,
cliff Marshall, and everybody

00:54:08.777 --> 00:54:11.777
listening, thank you so much for
joining the Sam Macho podcast.

00:54:12.017 --> 00:54:14.327
For everyone listening,
go to sam macho.com,

00:54:14.687 --> 00:54:16.667
uh, to listen to this
episode and so many more.

00:54:16.667 --> 00:54:20.807
And make sure to go and follow Josh
Harrison as he's in his Brittany season.

00:54:21.107 --> 00:54:23.867
Uh, follow him as he
goes on the next journey.

00:54:24.467 --> 00:54:27.137
Man, it's been such a pleasure
getting to know you, Josh, and

00:54:27.137 --> 00:54:30.017
I'm so excited for everyone who is
getting to listen to this podcast.

00:54:30.317 --> 00:54:31.757
We can't wait to see you soon.

00:54:32.567 --> 00:54:33.707
Josh Harrison: Appreciate y'all having me.