00:00 Julia Foreign. 00:05 Kieran Welcome back to that's what they Said, an educationally conversational podcast where we address all the things that aren't in the college brochure. 00:12 Julia Hey, guys, we're so excited to be back. Episode four. Welcome back. La la la la. Me win me win me when me. 00:24 Kieran Welcome to episode four. 00:25 Julia Oh, what's it called? Halloweekend. Halloweekend. Yep, yep, yep. We're pre recording this because we have a special guest with us for this episode. Guys, I'd love for all you to meet Frank. Frank, say hi. 00:39 Frank Hello, everybody. 00:41 Kieran Yay. 00:43 Julia Frank. Give us a little spiel about who you are. 00:45 Frank Yeah, well, my name is Frank. 00:47 Julia Right. 00:48 Frank Okay. I am a senior at uncw, majoring in psychology. 00:54 Julia He's so cool. He's so cool. 00:56 Frank Yeah. Oh, thanks. Thanks. And yeah, I'm really happy to be here. 01:00 Julia Good. 01:01 Frank I have known Ju since about what, 2021ish? It's been a good. It's been a long time. 01:10 Julia It's been a minute. Yeah. 01:12 Frank And then through Ju, I met Kieran. 01:15 Julia I've known Kieran from, like, two months. 01:18 Kieran It's been long. I met you, like, spring breaks, like, April, March. 01:23 Frank Yeah. 01:24 Julia Oh. So. 01:25 Kieran So, like, we go back. 01:28 Frank We clicked pretty quickly. 01:29 Julia We did. 01:29 Kieran So, like, it's basically actually been longer than, you know, Julia. Like, we're just, like, really close. 01:32 Frank I mean, that's what they said to name drop the pod. 01:38 Julia Right, right, right. So we're very glad to have Frank here. Yeah, I'm like, so excited. We were talking earlier and he was nervous. 01:46 Frank I was, well, because, I mean, I don't know, I really enjoy the episode so far and I'm just happy to, you know, contribute this time around. 01:55 Julia We're happy this time around. Yeah, we're excited to have a new perspective in the mix. Even though we low key think the same way. But that's fine. 02:06 Frank We don't want to get too crazy. 02:08 Julia All right, we're gonna start with High Low Buffalo, like we always do, as. 02:12 Kieran In the one time. 02:13 Julia Right, right, right. Yes. Okay, Kieran, hit it. 02:16 Frank Okay. 02:17 Kieran High Low Buffalo. My. Okay, my low is that I bought these new, like, Keurig pods, like the food lion brand, and they're salted caramel. So I was like, oh, these about to be buzz. Because one thing about me is I always put, like, caramel in my coffee when I like to, like, sweeten it, and it was not good. It actually just tasted, like, so artificial. I thought I was drinking, like, straight syrup and I was like, oh, okay. Perfect. So I feel good about this. My high is that I, like, went to class, like, one day this week. Just like, with fall break and, like, my schedule and everything. I. Yeah, all. Also, my mom baked pumpkin chocolate chip cookies last night. 02:50 Julia Yes. She's so yummy. 02:52 Kieran I love pumpkin chocolate chip cookies so much. Like, my. One of my favorite things about fall is the food. Because me and pumpkin chocolate chip are real tight. 03:00 Julia That's so fire. I love, like, that combination is so good. 03:03 Frank So good. 03:05 Kieran My buffalo. What did I do this week? What did I do for my buffalo? Is that I went pumpkin picking with my family. So this past weekend. So now my apartment has pumpkins in it. Yeah. And I'm very excited about it. 03:22 Frank Did you, like, carve them or paint them yet or. 03:24 Kieran No, they're just, like, decorative ones. We, like, went to this, like, pumpkin patch. It's. We went to jeans, like, so they also do strawberries. So they're jeans. Strawberry farm. But then you can also, like, year round, they, like, change the produce. So not that means anything to you guys, but. So jeans, right? Yes. 03:39 Julia Love them. 03:40 Kieran Shout out. You just go and you just, like, grab them and they have, like, the white ones, the green ones, like, all the different kinds. So I got like three. So now my apartment's, like, super decked out. 03:49 Julia Yes. Three whole pumpkins. Feeling good. 03:53 Kieran What about you guys? 03:54 Julia Frank? 03:55 Frank Oh, me? Okay, well, my high. We went to the state fair yesterday. 04:01 Julia We were, like, low key. I. We got. We were there for an hour and I was like, well, I'm about done. 04:06 Frank Time to go. 04:06 Julia But then we got kind of like a second wind because we ate so much food. It was like. Okay. We like, have. 04:11 Frank We needed that energy boost for sure. 04:12 Julia Yeah, those cheese fries really boosted my energy. 04:15 Frank Yeah, we know. Missed the dog bowl. 04:17 Julia My cheese fries came in a freaking dog bowl. 04:19 Frank It was like the most humbling thing, but it was also really funny. 04:24 Julia And they were buss. 04:26 Frank But yeah, my high, specifically about the state fair was that I really got my hands on. On a turkey leg this year. 04:32 Julia Yes.�As with every year. 04:34 Frank I was gonna say it's like my annual turkey leg day. And I was just really excited too. 04:40 Julia And I witnessed him eat that thing. He was like, he ate the entire thing. 04:45 Frank Okay. 04:45 Kieran A chow down. 04:46 Julia He chow. He gnawed on that thing. Did you lick the bone clean? Oh, he did. It was clean. 04:51 Frank I would not say it was clean, but it was. It was pretty much gone. 04:55 Kieran A little spare, little sparse, maybe a little bit spores. 04:59 Frank Yeah, that. That was a really fun day. Got to see the Family, you know, the spirit of the fall. Spirit. I love it. I really do. But, yeah, that was my high. And my low of the week is that I've had a really busy week. And usually I have all my midterms and final assignments before fall break, but this year, all my professors were like, well, hey, have a good break, but then you're going to be slammed. 05:22 Kieran All the work, of course. 05:23 Frank Right. So I would just, like, every day I was like, when is this going to end? And I would wake up the next day and be like, we're back again tomorrow. 05:33 Julia It'll end in December. Then you'll start back over in January. 05:36 Frank Exactly. 05:36 Julia There you go. But, hey, you graduate this year here. 05:38 Kieran So final fall semester. 05:40 Frank Yay. All right. But, yes. This is exciting. 05:44 Kieran So you're Buffalo, right? Right. 05:46 Frank My Buffalo. This kind of ties in with the low. But it's anyway. Well, it's a high. Anyway, I did for one of my seminar classes, which, hey, Shout Out. It's a feminist psychology topical seminar. But the hook is that it's like, Taylor Swift themed. 06:03 Kieran And this makes sense. 06:04 Frank Okay. 06:04 Julia Frank is, like, the world's biggest Taylor Swift fan. 06:07 Frank I mean. Yeah, I'm proud of it. 06:10 Kieran Now, I want to inquire about the new album. This came out because I have some friends who are big Swifties. So I had to listen to the whole album the day it came out. 06:16 Frank Had to. 06:18 Kieran Had to underline on the had all caps. 06:20 Julia Right. 06:21 Kieran I lowkey thought it sucked. 06:23 Frank Tea. Okay. 06:25 Kieran I thought it was awful. I mean, not that I like rock. Let's blow this popsicle stand. That's my favorite thing to say when I leave somewhere. Anyhow, I think that everything pre Look What You Made Me Do was fire. I rock with that era of T and then T. Swifty, me and my girl. And then afterwards, I just think it keeps going downhill. Like, I respect what she's putting out, but I just thought this album and all The Swifties on TikTok were agreeing with me. 06:50 Julia Money grab. 06:51 Kieran It was a bit of a money grab. 06:53 Frank Okay. So I. Maybe it's just. Just because I love her. I didn't. I did enjoy the album, however. I. Is it my favorite? No. And I do. Like, I see some of the points people are making. 07:06 Kieran Is your Girlboss too hard to stop? 07:10 Frank I don't want to talk about that. Unfortunately. 07:12 Julia I think a lot of the, like, tea about it is that everybody's like, it's not what she marketed it as. Cause, like, the. All the promo photo shoot stuff was like, oh. Like, she's like, Giving like jazz club a little bit like baddie showgirl. And then it played and it was. 07:25 Kieran All the same, like, whisper singing. 07:29 Julia Yeah. 07:30 Frank Mm. I agree. And this is like kind of. I mean, not to get on a spiel here, but like the same thing with midnights. 07:35 Julia Yeah. 07:35 Frank Like, she marketed as like depressing. Like the nights at, like, dark. Like the nights that keep you wait. The things that keep you up at night. 07:43 Julia Yeah. 07:43 Kieran The nights that keep you awake and. 07:44 Frank Then just like pop hits, which, hey, I'm here for. I love midnights, but it's just not. Not always the vibe was supposed to be. 07:51 Julia Right. 07:52 Frank Teach your own also. Give it a few months and everyone will, you know, come back around. 07:56 Kieran It's gonna be the next target hit trust. 07:59 Frank Unfortunately. Yeah. 08:00 Kieran Anyway, anyhow, so your buffalo right back. 08:03 Frank Back to the thing. My buffalo. We had. Me and a partner had to give a three hour class discussion. Isn't that great? We led the class for three hours, the whole three hours. And our topic, it was like. It was on sexuality. And it was. 08:21 Julia Wait, wait, this is lowkey really funny because his partner were the only two men in that class and their teacher assigned them the topic of sexuality for their three hour speech. 08:31 Frank Right. And I was like, you know, like, I said yes but why you say yes, that sort of thing. It was funny, but yeah. So it was a good old time, though. It was. I was. Let me tell you, the second I left that classroom, like a bus hit me. I was drained. I don't know how professors do that all day. Like talk for hours. 08:48 Julia You talk for hours, all day. 08:50 Frank Well, it's like stuff that I'm interested. Like, not that I'm not interested, but. 08:52 Kieran It'S like, you know, casual conversation. 08:54 Frank Exactly. 08:56 Julia Got him. 08:57 Kieran So Ju. High, low Buffalo. 08:59 Julia High, low Buffalo. Well, I mean, I would say my high Loki was. This morning went to a coffee shop. We were staying with my grandparents. And by we, I mean me and Frank and Went to a coffee shop this morning and as some would say, we beat a dead horse that we have been beating for a long time. 09:15 Kieran I love beating a dead horse. 09:17 Julia You. You will understand because we. I beat the same horse with you. It's. It's about the banana bread guy. 09:23 Frank Yeah. 09:23 Julia I was giving another rant about how I don't understand the way that he thinks and the stuff that he says. And like. Anyway, so we just talked about that for like an hour and it was. It was a good old time. 09:34 Frank You know, our. Our bats were held high. 09:35 Julia Our bats were high. 09:36 Frank Horse was laying on the ground right. 09:38 Julia And names were being dropped. But it's like fine because nobody there knows us. So it's like chill. My low. I don't know. I lowkey had like anxious week this week because I have. Well, because state fair makes me anxious because it's so many people. And then also my contra dance is tonight because we're. See you all there. But yes, I've been like low key stressed about that because like the pianist for the band emailed me last night. I was like, hey, I've actually been vomiting all day so I won't be there but somebody else will be there. And I was like, so, okay, perfect. That's really great. That's exactly what I wanted. Buffalo, I would say is. Honestly, I have no idea. Oh, it's open house today. Which I didn't know. 10:25 Kieran I don't even understand what that means. 10:26 Julia I don't know. I like. Well, because we. I pulled up on campus this morning and I was like. So there are 8, 000 people here that are usually not here. Like these people are parents and their children. Like, what are we doing? 10:35 Kieran I know there's people directing traffic. I was like, to what? 10:37 Julia So yeah, like it's not a game. Yeah. Like nobody wants to go to fountain that bad. Like I don't understand what the problem is. But yeah. So that was my buffalo. I think I like can't remember. 10:48 Kieran So same. 10:49 Julia Yeah, it's just that kind of day. And like also it's low key weird that we're in here. This room it's like so dark and outside it's like the middle of the day. 10:56 Kieran Well, because normally we film at like 7pm Right. Like on Mondays or Tuesdays we film from 7 to 10. 11:01 Frank Yeah. 11:01 Julia Because we're busy during the day. 11:03 Frank Right. 11:04 Julia It's true. All right. So high low Buffalo Slay. Now we're moving on to Halloweekend, which is the topic of the episode. This is. I feel like, okay, what Halloweekend. Is. Is the weekend of Halloween. Wow. Who would have thought? What? Oh my God. 11:19 Frank Hit the nail on the head with that one. 11:20 Kieran I'm gobsmacked. 11:21 Julia Right. But like last year it was weird because Halloween was in the middle of the week. So everybody. 11:25 Kieran I forgot about that. 11:26 Julia Right? Everybody was like, Thursday. Yeah. People were like, is it the weekend before? That's Halloweekend. Or the weekend after? So obviously the solution is you party. Both, obviously. Right. But like this year, Halloween will be the day this episode comes out. And it's on a Friday. 11:39 Kieran So we're about to turn up. 11:42 Julia It's like both Halloweekends combined into one, so it's, like, super Halloweekend. 11:45 Kieran Super mega, ultra Halloweekend. 11:49 Julia So in college, Halloweekend is, like, the biggest party weekend of the year. 11:53 Kieran Yeah. 11:54 Julia Yeah. Because, like, after this, after Halloweekend, it's like, you gotta lock in. 11:58 Kieran Yeah. For, like, four weeks, and then. 12:00 Julia And then it's Christmas. 12:01 Frank You're gone. 12:01 Julia Well, it's winter break, and then, like. 12:03 Frank The next, I guess, bigger party is spring break. Yeah. 12:07 Kieran Like the weekend before spring break. 12:08 Julia Yeah. And that's, like, not even a party on campus. 12:09 Frank Yeah. Cause people are, like, going places. It's, like, not centered to here. 12:13 Julia Yeah. 12:13 Kieran I'm trying to think if there's really. I don't really think there's any other. 12:15 Frank Holidays that are big, like, maybe St. Patty's Day. But that's just, like, beer, like, bars and stuff like that. 12:21 Julia Yeah. 12:21 Kieran But I feel like anybody has an excuse for a party. Easter. Who's gonna turn out my little chickies? 12:26 Julia Like, oh, everybody dresses as eggs. 12:29 Kieran Yeah, me when I'm an egg? 12:31 Frank God, it's Flag Day, y'all. 12:32 Julia All. 12:32 Frank Crack one. 12:33 Kieran Yes. 12:34 Julia Crack one open. Okay, so I want to talk about what we plan on wearing this year. 12:39 Kieran Yes. 12:39 Julia And, like, well, because I personally will be going out Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday night, same. So that means three costumes, obviously. I. My main costume I've been working on. I'm gonna be a mermaid. Okay. Because I have a mermaid tattoo now, guys, so it's really fire. Thank you. I got this, like, skirt that looks like a crocheted net situation, and I cut us. I, like, cut the under skirt out so it's just the net. And then I cut a slit down the side, and then I sewed pearls all over it. It took me forever. 13:10 Julia And then I found this other, like, floor length skirt that was, like, metallic blue, and I cut it to make it a mini skirt, and I used the rest of the fabric to make a top that I just sewed onto an old bra, which I then am gluing pearls onto that. Yeah. And, like, matches. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. And, like, there's a lot of ribbons and, like, chains and, like, pretty things on that. So that's my, like, main costume. And then I also thrifted, like, you know, like a 1920s, like, flapper dress. 13:36 Kieran I have one of those. 13:37 Frank Really? 13:38 Julia Right. Of course. 13:39 Kieran Fun fact. I have one, so if you need it. 13:41 Julia Oh, thank you. Well, I thrifted a red one, and I also have this, like, corset that I bought, like, years ago that I've never worn, and it's red and black and has like, lace, you know, like, sleeves. So I was thinking I could do like a circus. Like. Yeah. 13:55 Kieran Little ringleader. 13:56 Frank Yeah. 13:56 Julia Or something. So I, like, would wear the dress as a skirt and then of course, on top and then do, like, pigtails. Like, I was telling. I was telling somebody about this and they're like, oh, you'll be like, sexy Harley Quinn. I like that. I was like, okay, yes. I don't really watch the Harley Quinn universe stuff, but, like, sure. 14:10 Kieran Dc. 14:11 Julia Yeah, she slays. 14:12 Kieran I was Harley Love, Margot Robbie coming out with a movie with Jacob Elordi. 14:18 Frank Wither heights with Charli on the track. 14:21 Julia What? 14:22 Frank Yeah, yeah, she's doing the soundtrack. 14:23 Julia Oh, my God. Did you see Trisha Paytas in Euphoria? 14:26 Kieran Yes, I saw that yesterday and I actually jumped physically up. Like, I, like, I panicked. Like, I just was filled with such, like, what? Then my eye twitched and I went off the ground, my knees bent. 14:37 Frank Cancel me if you want. I am just so happy for her. 14:39 Julia She gets everything she could ever want. Like, it's so cool. 14:42 Frank And I think, like, her. The trajectory of her life is on the upturn and, like, she's getting. I'm just so happy for her. 14:48 Julia I. 14:49 Kieran Well, what really killed me is when none of the original cast is returning. 14:54 Frank Right. 14:54 Kieran That sent me. Not according to the poster I read. 14:58 Frank There's a. They made an earlier one, like, months ago. This was just, like, for the, like, side characters. 15:04 Kieran Well, I saw that. Like, it's a returning cast and new cast and none of the. 15:07 Frank I did see that. 15:08 Kieran Okay. So I. I was like, right, okay. 15:11 Frank Yeah, Trisha's the new Ru. 15:13 Kieran I would scream like, no, she's actually gonna be Nate. 15:20 Frank Yeah, she can shoot all the characters. 15:22 Kieran Right? Of course. She's so many. Like, did you see her, like, Wendy's or Arby's, like, commercial? She dressed as, like. 15:28 Julia No. What? 15:30 Kieran I'll show you guys later because I have no idea where I would even remotely Google that. But she dressed up like this Arby's, like, outfit. Like, it was like, the uniform. Right. But then she also had, like, a wig on and, like, her male cosplay. 15:41 Frank Okay. 15:41 Kieran But then she was like, Arby's. 15:43 Julia Wait, can I tell a little story about Arby's really quick? No Arby's. This is like, a few years ago. 15:51 Frank Yeah. 15:51 Julia Frank went through the Arby's drive thru before he was going to work. Then I made him drive by my house and sit on my porch to eat his lunch with me in the, like, 30 minutes he had before work. But he gets There and he said. So I went to the drive thru and the guy at the drive through, he's like 40 year old man, gave me this card with his number on it and it was like a free Arby's meal card. And then I was like, oh, so Arby's takes face card. Arby's takes face card. Like he wanted you bad. 16:15 Frank Yeah, and they do. 16:16 Julia And they do. And Arby's takes face card. 16:18 Frank I was the first face card customer, I guess. 16:20 Kieran Right. 16:20 Frank But it's also, it's like, hey, do I really want to be walking around saying that? Hey, the guy at Arby's. Arby's. 16:25 Kieran The man. The male. The male at Arby's. 16:30 Frank So that was, I don't know if that was a low point or a high point for me. 16:33 Kieran I thought it was the funniest thing ever. 16:34 Frank It was really funny. 16:35 Julia Did you ever use that free meal? Meal? 16:37 Frank Hey, haven't been back. 16:38 Julia Oh, you're scared. 16:40 Kieran I've never been to Arby's. 16:41 Julia Me neither. Because it does not sound appetizing. 16:43 Frank Well also you don't eat meat. 16:44 Julia We have the meat, but the curly. 16:45 Kieran Fries I feel like I can support. 16:47 Frank And hey, that's what, that's why I went back. Because when I was a kid they had this like loaded curly fries thing. Ranch bacon. 16:54 Kieran Eat it up. 16:55 Frank It was delicious. And they brought it back. I was like, hey, I have to go back obviously. And hey. 16:59 Kieran And it worked out. 16:59 Frank And it worked out. Hey, we got that for free. 17:01 Kieran And it worked out. 17:02 Frank And it worked out. 17:03 Kieran So with that in mind, what's your third costume? 17:05 Julia That's okay. I don't know yet. Okay. I like, I don't know cuz we're doing Halloweekend in Chapel Hill this year. Well, I am. I don't know if Frank is. We still don't know. Yeah, well, up in the air. 17:14 Kieran Well, actually, Chapel Hill, one night. 17:16 Julia Well, I'm. I think I'm going to do Chapel Hill Thursday and Friday. And then because I think my PCM is having a party Saturday night. They want to, they want to do tailgate, football game, nap, haunted house party. 17:26 Kieran And I said, okay, I would die after like tailgate, right? 17:29 Julia Like I can tailgate. I won't be going to the football game, I can tell you that right now. 17:33 Frank They built in nap. 17:34 Julia Right? I appreciate that. But yeah. So I'm thinking I might borrow like one of Grom's costumes or one of Emma's costumes because we're the same size. 17:42 Kieran So that might work for like Thursday night. But yeah, I need to figure out what I'm actually, like, doing. I think I'm going to Chapel Hill on Thursday. 17:50 Julia Okay. 17:50 Kieran My costumes are Jack Sparrow. 17:53 Julia Yeah. 17:54 Kieran A ladybug. And Chloe from Pitch Perfect. 17:57 Frank Yes. 17:58 Kieran Specifically, like, the last performance outfit. And here's why. Right. You're probably sensing a theme. I will be dyeing my hair red next week. 18:05 Julia That's my next hair color. So I. 18:07 Kieran Obviously, my characters have to match, like. 18:10 Frank Orangey red or like, fire truck red. 18:11 Kieran Like fire truck red. Last year I did go cool tone red. And I messed with it so hard and I missed it. So I'm gonna go back for, like, the fall winter season. And then I'll probably, like, go back brunette after that. 18:21 Julia Are we doing, like, full head red? I think? Yes. 18:24 Kieran Yeah. Like, pretty much, like balayage type beat. Yeah, yeah. I love saying type beat. 18:30 Frank You kill me, girl. 18:30 Kieran I have no idea where I got that from either. I just started saying it's a thing. It's a thing now. 18:34 Frank Yeah, sure. Decided now it is. 18:35 Kieran Well, yeah, so since I said it right. But I actually have no idea where I'm actually going any of those nights. Like, I don't, as of right now, have any plans to go out. 18:43 Julia I also, because Cleo. Cleo's my sibling. Cleo is kind of like the host of this year in Chapel Hill. And they're like, oh, we like. There's so many parties we could go to. Like, we go this part this way. And I was like, well, they didn't even say this party. They're like, oh, there's so many things that we can do. So what are those things? What are the things? Because those haven't been disclosed yet. 19:02 Kieran I'm like, low key, debating whether or not I should just, like, throw something at my apartment little Halloween party. Okay. There's not a single monster mash ounce of enthusiasm either. No, I just like a dumb idea. 19:14 Julia I don't want to know. I like it. You just would have to invite, like, a lot of people to make it, like, a banger. 19:18 Kieran And you're saying, I don't know a lot of people I can invite? 19:20 Frank Well, yeah. 19:22 Kieran Caught. 19:25 Frank Anyway. What are you� going as Frank so that it's still kind of up in the air. 19:29 Kieran Sure. 19:30 Frank I feel. I'll be honest. My planning for this year's Hollyweek has kind of been all over the place. 19:36 Kieran Yeah. 19:37 Frank Yes. My plans are. I have some parties that I was invited to that I'm going to go to in Wilmington. But I may come up to Chapel Hill on that Thursday. We'll see. But for Costumes. This is also, hey. Not solidified anything. But one thing. I really wanted to be Glinda because I'm. 20:00 Julia You do a little. 20:01 Kieran The little chant. 20:02 Frank Which one? So that's gonna be Elphaba. 20:06 Kieran I know, but I still associate it with Wicked. I never watched Wicked. 20:10 Julia Oh. Oh, it's so good. 20:12 Frank We gotta change that because it's okay. 20:13 Kieran I'm okay. Oh, thank you so much, though. 20:16 Julia It's. It's actually good, though. 20:17 Frank No, it's. 20:18 Julia Yeah, I wasn't even. Yeah. I, like, I'm not the biggest musical person, but I really liked it. 20:23 Kieran Right. 20:23 Frank But anyway. But I was like, everyone's gonna be Glenda this year, you know? So then I was thinking about a firefighter. 20:29 Kieran The next closest. 20:33 Frank Glinder Glender lately. 20:35 Kieran One of the, like, sexy ones. Like a spirit Halloween. 20:39 Frank So everything on my note, I have like a notes app. 20:41 Kieran Right. 20:42 Frank And pretty much all of them have sexy in front of the title, so it's assumed. Right. 20:46 Kieran Which leads me into my thought process debate of the dilemma of going sexy or no. Going sexy or no. 20:52 Frank Right, right. 20:53 Kieran Question I have. Once you finish that, of course. 20:55 Frank Well, that would be a good segue. 20:57 Kieran That was my, that was my goal. 20:58 Frank Right. And hey, you're doing great. 20:59 Kieran Thank you. 21:00 Frank Another one I was thinking of is Betty Boop. 21:03 Julia Yeah. 21:03 Frank Because I, I, like, I had the curly hair. I can, like, you know, blow it, dry it a little bit. And then I have that, like, from one of the clothing swaps that we've did that we've done. Someone put in, like, a really, like, boopy dress. Oh, yeah. It was like a little red dress. And I'm like, wait, this could. I can kind of just wait. 21:20 Julia Was it the red, like, velvet one? Yes, it is mine. 21:22 Frank Oh, perfect. Someone. Someone happened to put that in one in there. 21:25 Julia I don't know who that could be. 21:26 Frank Yep, it was gonna be you. So got him. We'll see. I had Cupid on there. 21:32 Julia That would be cute. 21:33 Frank Greek God. I don't, I don't know. 21:35 Kieran The trio one of Kiss Mary Kill. I always wanted to do that whenever I specifically wanted to be Kiss. But, you know. 21:40 Frank Well, that's like the same thing where it's like, if you think about, like, who has put you in their Kiss Mary Kills. And it's like you're. 21:47 Julia People talk about, like, if you want to know your, like ratio of how many people said Kiss Mary Kill, or like, freak marry kill. Yeah, I, I, I want to know so bad. But also, no. 21:57 Kieran I have been told many times where I Stand in that? Really? 21:59 Frank Are you serious? 22:00 Julia I. 22:00 Kieran In elementary school, I don't know why I had such a traumatic childhood, specifically in just elementary school. Had people come up to me and be like, so and so. Asked me for Kiss Mary Kill. And I had you as kill because, like, you're just not that pretty. Whatever. 22:14 Julia Did you guys ever get asked out on an Oreo? 22:16 Frank Oh, yeah. 22:17 Kieran Have you ever heard of that? 22:18 Julia No. 22:18 Kieran I know what it is, but I never was. 22:20 Julia I was. They would ask me as like a joke. 22:23 Kieran Well, actually, no, I was, but it was like, it was supposed to be like, you know, like in the movies when they picked like the, in the main character before they do their big transformation. And so it's like the big joke in the school. The ugliest character in the. Okay. That was what they would do to me. 22:40 Julia That's what they did to me. Yes. They would ask me out as a joke. 22:44 Kieran Yeah. 22:44 Julia And it's like, okay, you're actually giving, like you're setting me up for failure for the rest of my life because I'm going to feel like, awful about the way that I look for a long time because of this. And they don't even think about it. Like, middle school boys don't give a freak about that. 22:56 Frank Okay. And then also literally being like, how do I trust that these people actually like me? Right. It's like an attention thing or. 23:01 Kieran Right. 23:02 Julia For years. 23:02 Frank That could be a topic in itself. 23:04 Julia Yeah. 23:04 Frank I don't think we have time for. 23:06 Kieran Not even remotely enough time. I could go on and on about the horrors of elementary middle school social life. Oh, my God. But back to my original question. 23:14 Julia Sexy or no? 23:14 Kieran Sexy or no? The year long dilemma. 23:17 Julia Year long Christmas morning, I wake up and say, sexy or no? 23:22 Kieran As I run down the stairs to meet my parents. 23:24 Frank 12:00 clock on New Year's at the. 23:26 Kieran First thing I'm thinking about and the last thing I think about before I go to bed on December 31st. But yeah. So what was like, I don't know. My question I'm going for here. But like, you get the debate. 23:39 Julia Like sexy or no. Yeah. 23:40 Kieran On the first year of Halloween. Like, like first time freedom. 23:42 Julia Yeah. Like it's your first year, like freshman year at college. You're like, okay, were having this talk earlier that a lot of freshmen, your only option is to go to like a frat or like a club because you're not invited to stuff yet. Because, like, we're now invited to a bunch of stuff because we know a bunch of people now. But like, as A freshman, you don't know anybody. So, like, you have to go to, like, some janky place. And, like. And so the. Like, when you usually go to a frat, it's like, oh, let me wear the least amount of clothes possible. Like, as a woman, right? So then it's like, okay, for Halloween, it doesn't really matter what I am as long as I'm wearing nothing or close to. Right? You're saying just pasties. 24:16 Kieran I know the example I used earlier, before we started filming, I was like, do I need to wear, like, my entire, like, wardrobe as one singular outfit, or do I need to, like, wear just pasties? Like, I'm trying to get that free entry. 24:28 Julia Like, right. 24:28 Frank Walking with some tassels. 24:30 Kieran I am like, maybe not even that. Like, I'm playing peekaboo. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's just a string and a dream. 24:37 Julia Yeah. 24:37 Kieran Like, let me tell y' all something. 24:39 Julia Yeah. 24:39 Kieran Like, my costume this year is rope. That is what I dressed as. Like that I'm going as dental floss this year, trying to find my dentist. 24:48 Frank Wait, wait, I like that. 24:49 Kieran Honestly, you know what? 24:50 Julia I'm dentist. 24:52 Kieran I start flossing, like, the 2016 dance. 24:54 Frank Hey. And that's not getting you anywhere. 24:56 Kieran Oh, oh, I'll leave. 24:59 Frank I'm glad you brought that up, because Jillian, one of my good friends from home, she started flossing the other day, and I'm like, you need to stop. And she was like, what do you mean? And everyone was on her side. And I'm like, I thought everyone decided that flossing is out. Like, severely out. 25:12 Kieran It's pretty out. 25:13 Julia It's out. But when you do it's ironic. 25:15 Kieran Now, you gotta be. I would never unironically hit the floss. 25:18 Julia But I would hit the floss. 25:20 Kieran I would unironically hit the dab. 25:22 Frank Oh, yeah. Do you know what I'm saying? 25:23 Kieran That's so funny. I mean, I'll never walk down the street and be like, hope you're having a great day. Like, I would do that. But, like, sometimes when I, like, win an argument or something, I'm like, yeah. And I hit a quick one of those. A quick head nod. Yeah. 25:37 Julia Like a slight arc. And watch me o. Watch me, watch me, Superman. 25:45 Frank Back to sexy or not. 25:47 Kieran Right? Something sexy. 25:48 Julia That's what I was saying. It's like, either. It feels like either it's. You go full send on the sexy. Like, where the least amount possible. Or you, like, do an actually funny costume. Like. Like, you see, like, these videos of people being, like, the Lorax and they're. 25:59 Kieran Wearing, like, a orange. I think that's so funny. 26:01 Julia I think it's so funny. And like. Like, let's do Halloween for fun and not to, like, get, like, be out and be sexy. But me saying that when all my costumes are gonna be sexy this year, and they usually always are. So I'm just saying. 26:13 Kieran Well, you know what really, like, drives me up. Not really drives me up a wall. Doesn't bother me that much. Like, something that, like, kind of makes my eye twitch ever so slightly is, like, the whole corset princess thing. Like, I am going to be on the anti corset princess. I understand the vision, and I, like, see our thought process here. I think it's just so overdone that, like, I feel like we're getting to a point in 2025 now as a society that we're just moving all of our costumes into corsets. 26:37 Julia Yeah. 26:37 Kieran Like, I did see someone dressed up as, like, the Cruella de Vil, and it was a white corset. A white. Like, I was like, all right. 26:43 Julia I feel like corset is okay if you, like, mute, because I'm wearing a corset this year. But, like, it's okay if, like, you actually put effort into the other pieces. 26:50 Kieran Right. Like, I. Like I said when I go as Jack Sparrow, and that requires, like, a corset, but there's also gonn long skirt. There's going to be the head wrap. There's like, there's pieces to this. I'm not just wearing a corset and, like, a skirt and, like, a pirate hat and calling it my day like that. 27:03 Julia Right. You have to be able to tell what somebody is. Like, you can be sexy. You can wear a corset, but I have to know who you are as your costume, or else I don't like it. 27:10 Kieran Yeah. 27:11 Frank Period. 27:12 Julia Thank you. 27:12 Frank Bock it. 27:13 Kieran Bock it. My end result on the question is to be sexy or not is to, A, do whatever you're comfortable with. 27:19 Julia Yeah. 27:20 Kieran And B, recognize your surroundings and who you're going to be seeing. 27:22 Julia That's a big one. 27:23 Kieran I always had to establish the plans first. Usually before I establish what I'm wearing. 27:27 Julia Yeah. 27:27 Kieran Like, I need to know, like, who's gonna be there, what kind of situation it is. And then also, like, then factor. Well, not then, like, always consider what you're comfortable with first, but then, like, and then also factor in what you're comfortable with. 27:37 Julia Yeah. 27:37 Kieran And that's kind of how I make my basis. Like, last year, I went as Blue from Blue's Clues, and Roderick was gonna be like a T shirt and jeans and a bunch of eyeliner. Like, that was not sexy at all, but, like, it ate down and every single person knew who I was. Blue was a little bit more sexy because I had, like, a tighter dress on and like, my. My girls were girl in, but, like, I did have a felt headband on and, like, it was a long sleeve dress. So, like, it was. There was like a little. 28:02 Julia Yeah, like classy. Classy. Yeah. Yes, I like that. 28:06 Kieran Yes. His eyes. 28:07 Julia I like. Last year, Frank and I, we. We did a. We did like a. Like a duo. A duo costume. Not a couple costume, but like a. You know, I first. We didn't actually do anything. We went to Mia's apartment and ate Taco Bell and then took pictures and then went back inside and later on. But I was the Playboy Bunny first and Frank was Hugh Hefner. And then we switched costumes and Frank was the Playboy Bunny and I was Hugh Hefner. Wait, I have to tell you, the name that we call. We call it because I think it's the funniest thing. Huge Hefner and Playboy Bussy. 28:42 Kieran That is. 28:43 Frank So that's going to be us, y'all. 28:45 Kieran We're going to hear all night. Well, what set me. Because I remember seeing your Instagram photos about this, because this was like, right after we became friends or like, knew each other. We weren't even really friends at that point. Like, were, but weren't really. 28:57 Julia Yeah. 28:58 Kieran And my. The thing that sent me the most about that was that Frank fit into the outfit and the shoes fit, too. Like, my boots, like, it all, like, not in like a. That sounds so demeaning. But, like, you both, like, worked it well. 29:09 Frank Like, what you mean? Yeah, I was like, thank you. 29:11 Kieran Hello, bodies were tea. Who is this icon? Like, right, that. 29:15 Julia That's Playboy we ate. 29:16 Frank And that's Huge Hefner right there. Hugh Hefner looking right at her. 29:20 Kieran Oh, wow. Clear as day. 29:21 Julia Clear as day. Sitting right. Yeah, that was really fun. And like, that's weird. Another thing we're gonna say is that, like, you don't have to go to a party. Like, like we said, we just sat around like, last year on actual. I like the weekend before how Halloween, I was in Chapel Hill and I went, like, to a party and then I went to see a midnight showing of what's it called? 29:43 Frank Rocky. 29:43 Julia Rocky Horror Picture Show. It was so good. It was so good. And then actual Halloween, I went to a play put on by NC State. It was the Mr. Burns play. 29:53 Kieran Yes. 29:56 Julia Yeah. And that's. Right. Like, the actors did a great job acting. It just. I. I could not understand what was going on. Like, it did not make any sense to me. 30:04 Kieran It usually doesn't. 30:05 Julia Right. 30:05 Kieran With love and care. 30:06 Julia Like, xoxo also, they're, like, good actors, and, like, they have great voices and the costumes are great, and that's because I help work on them. But of course, like, at what point, like, why. Why are we choosing this really niche play that nobody's ever heard of? It makes no sense. I don't. I don't understand. Anyway, so that's what I did on actual Halloween. And then the weekend after Halloween, I. We did the Getting Taco Bell, staying and taking pictures. 30:25 Frank Right. 30:26 Julia And it was great. 30:26 Frank And. Okay, that's something that I want to talk about too. Like, you don't have to go to a party or a club or something to have a good Halloween. 30:35 Julia Right. 30:35 Frank Just. Can it be fun? 30:37 Julia Yes. Yes, of course. 30:38 Kieran As a freshman. 30:39 Frank Right. Does it depend on the, like, alternative also? Yes. But, like, were just. Literally, we got dressed up, like, in our costumes, hung out a Taco Bell, and it was a great night. 30:50 Julia Yeah. 30:50 Frank So it's. It's like. 30:51 Julia And there were only four of us there. 30:52 Frank Right. So it's like, you don't. I think there's a big expectation for Halloweekend, where it's like, you know, as we said, it's the biggest party, like, weekend of the year. But, like, you know, and there's expectation to then go to those parties or, like, have, like, the best story. 31:06 Julia Yeah. 31:07 Frank But it's also. It's like. 31:08 Julia Yeah. 31:09 Frank Eh. Right. Like, sometimes it's not gonna be fun at a party. 31:12 Julia Oh, my God. I remember something else that I did last Halloween. It was the weekend after Halloween. I was trying to remember what I did on that Friday night. I was volunteering at a church, lock in with the little kids at my church. So were having a sleepover at church, and my church is on Hillsborough street, and we're surrounded by frat houses, like, completely surrounded on every side. So there were parties happening everywhere around us. Right. 31:38 Kieran And center. 31:39 Julia Yeah. Bumping. And the kids were, like, running to the window, like, what is that? And I'm like, don't look out. 31:42 Kieran Nothing, nothing, nothing. 31:44 Julia You're gonna see something you don't want to see. 31:45 Frank Your eyes. 31:46 Julia Yeah. So that was. That was my wholesome Friday night. Yeah, it was fun. 31:51 Frank That's cute. 31:52 Kieran Yeah. I didn't Do a whole lot for Halloween. Last year at one point, me and some friends did try to go out and we left with like the intention was like 15 people were gonna go. Only three made it into the club. 32:04 Julia Right. 32:04 Kieran By the time we got there. One of them being me. 32:07 Frank So, you know, you're the 1 in 5. 32:09 Kieran We were the trio of the night where I saw some crazy things at the club. 32:13 Julia Well, because you went to legends, right? 32:14 Kieran We did go to legends. 32:15 Julia You'll always do crazy things. 32:16 Kieran I saw more than one and an involved activity. Wow. 32:23 Julia Halloween will do that. 32:24 Kieran Halloween will do that too. 32:25 Julia It frees. It frees the spirits. It's witching our all Halloween. 32:27 Frank Truly. 32:28 Kieran You're putting some skeletons in the closet, let me tell you. 32:30 Frank Yeah, I love those. Oh, hey, I love these puns, by the way. Thank you. 32:34 Kieran Yeah. 32:34 Frank At any time. Thank you. Love it. 32:38 Kieran So in summary, live it up. Do it with you're comfortable with. Don't be afraid to push the boundaries. But to a certain degree. 32:45 Frank Mm. 32:45 Julia I agree. It's like, it's like a little bit of an excuse to be sexy and go out and party. But also I love being cozy. One thing that everybody in my life knows about me is I will be cozy. 32:56 Kieran Oh, yes. 32:56 Julia I like, I. Everybody knows that about me. It's my favorite thing ever. So, like, maybe my dream Halloween plan is to stay in my bed and be cozy and watch a movie. Yay. And that's still so fun. You can party any week. Weekend like actually. So no need to put all the pressure on Halloween. 33:14 Frank I agree. 33:16 Julia Quick fire round after that final advice about Halloween. 33:19 Frank Yeah, I would. Yeah, I would just say like. 33:22 Kieran And yeah. 33:22 Frank You know, sometimes low your expectations. Right. Sometimes lower your expectations. It's not going to be what it's all cracked out to be. But also, like, have just have a good time, like whatever that looks like for you and hit the note. Go dress up. Like, go out with your friends or stay in, like, and just as long as I feel as you're safe and you're comfortable. That's what a good Halloween should be. 33:46 Julia Yeah. Stay safe. That's. 33:47 Frank And also acknowledge that like, going out three nights in a row may not be for you. And that's also. 33:51 Julia That's the only. The only time I can ever do that. Like, I. I have to. I can only lock in. 33:55 Kieran It's a. Once a year. 33:56 Julia Once a year. 33:57 Frank Yeah. 33:57 Kieran I've actually never gone out more than one night in a row. So this is going to be really interesting for me. 34:00 Julia I've done. I've Done a three day. It was. It was that one spring break, were in Chapel Hill. Well, actually, I didn't. I didn't end up going to that screamo night thing that you went to for the third night. So I did. Yeah. Two day thing. 34:11 Kieran But Two day bendor, which. Yeah. 34:13 Frank Was. Yeah, we won't talk about that. 34:16 Julia Yeah. Quick fire. 34:17 Kieran Question around. Favorite Halloween film. 34:19 Frank Oh, I like that. 34:21 Kieran It doesn't have to be scary, but just like fall Halloween. Like fall or Halloween centered movie. 34:28 Julia I like the Halloweentown movies. 34:30 Kieran I was gonna say that. 34:31 Julia Like the whole. I watch all of them. I haven't watched them yet, so maybe I'll do that. 34:34 Frank I don't love the third or fourth. 34:36 Julia What? You're not a true fan. 34:38 Frank Okay, whatever. 34:38 Julia You have to watch all of them. 34:39 Kieran I watched all of them, but the first one's the best. 34:42 Frank Yeah. Second one's pretty good too. 34:43 Kieran The second's pretty good, but not as good as the first. I agree, but it's respectable. My other favorite is the Great Pumpkin. Charlie Brown. 34:49 Julia Oh, yeah. I watch that with my mom every year. 34:51 Kieran Yep. 34:52 Frank It's a rock. 34:53 Kieran I got a rock. Did you guys ever watch Spookly, the square pumpkin? 34:58 Frank Yeah. Okay. Can I. I have a pumpkin? Yes. Oh, yeah, we know. 35:02 Julia Okay. Oh, wow. Never mind. I was gonna say something mean, never being welcome. I said, you're gon. He would be bigly. 35:10 Kieran You guys kind of give, like, the big and the small one. Like, you guys really always kind of attached to it. 35:13 Julia Big and small. Big and small. 35:14 Frank Well, let's, you know, be careful who we're calling big and small, because if I'm looking at you, hey, you might be a little different on who we're calling it. 35:21 Kieran Mom and dad are fighting again. 35:22 Julia Sorry, guys. 35:22 Frank Sorry. Sorry. But, yeah, I have a vivid story about Spookly. 35:26 Julia Please. 35:27 Kieran That's such a funny name. 35:28 Frank Right? 35:29 Kieran He is me. And I and him. 35:30 Julia I am him. 35:31 Frank Pookie. 35:33 Kieran Pooky. Spooky, spooky. 35:35 Julia Spooky. 35:35 Frank Pooky. 35:38 Kieran Mm. 35:41 Frank Perfect. 35:42 Kieran And scene we. 35:44 Frank Okay, so I was maybe nine. 35:46 Kieran Sure. 35:46 Frank Right. 35:47 Julia Okay. I'm getting the vision. I'm getting the vision. 35:49 Frank As we all were. And I just. Yeah, we had. Hey, Shout out. Went to the Cheesecake Factory. 35:57 Julia Love you some Cheesecake Factory. 35:58 Kieran I love the Cheesecake Factory. I buy the bread, buy the baguette. Like you can buy them to take home. And I take them and I. The Godiva cheesecake knows me by name. 36:07 Frank Like it's Godiva. Godiva. Okay, time out. I'm splitting into so Many different. 36:12 Kieran We'll circle back. We'll circle back. 36:13 Frank Godiva is my cousin's cat whose name is Godiva. 36:16 Julia And. 36:17 Frank But Ju was on the FaceTime with me the other week, and she's like, Dubai, because. 36:21 Julia Dubai chocolate reference. And then you say, hello, Dubai. Like Rihanna when she's on the building. Hello, Dubai. So great to be with you. 36:32 Frank But anyway, back to spookly. I was 9, went to cheesecake Factory, unfortunately, had a stomach bug brewing. So, you know, when you eat something really marinating that really. 36:41 Julia And Cheesecake Factory with a stomach bug is crazy. Like, that's, like, worst. 36:44 Frank Like. Yeah. And I know I'm not gonna get into detail because, hey, pg. But I remember vividly, like, being up that night, like, sleeping on the couch. We were at my cousin's house. 36:53 Kieran Yeah. 36:54 Frank You know, and I was like, could not fall asleep. And I remember waking up at, like, 4 in the morning and Spookly is on, like, my screen, like, on, like, the big tv. 37:03 Kieran Sorry, guys. My mom keeps trying to call me. 37:04 Frank Hey, girl. A little caller. Call her on the pod. 37:07 Kieran Call her on the pod. 37:08 Julia That's really what she said. 37:11 Kieran Hello? Hey. I'm just trying to figure out if the chili, if that's beef or is it turkey. We're filming the podcast right now. Say hi to the podcast. Oh, hi. It's turkey. Oh, is it dark meat turkey then? No, it's just ground turkey. Did you get ground white meat turkey or ground turkey? I thought it was white meat. It looked white when I bought it. 37:34 Julia Yeah, I think it was white meat. 37:36 Kieran If it doesn't specifically say ground breast, then it's not white meat. I. I thought it was. I'm, like, pretty confident. 37:43 Julia Okay. 37:44 Kieran Why you don't believe in that? Because ground white meat turkey doesn't, like, break down as much as you have it. That's why I was thinking it was beef. Well, no, I just, like, I. I really went in there with it. Well, okay, well, let you get back to podcast. That's all I wanted to know. Okay. All right, Well, I hope that I. 38:04 Julia Make an appearance on this Is Turkey with Karen. 38:07 Kieran Yeah. This is a new segment we're in. 38:08 Julia This is turkey. Yes. 38:10 Frank Perfect. Time for Thanksgiving, right? 38:13 Kieran Come on and talk everything about turkey. Perfect. 38:16 Julia Thank you. 38:16 Kieran Yep. Love you. Love you too. Bye. I love Amy. Oh, she called me twice and texted me. She puts the meat in the chili. Was gonna eat some think it's beef. I wasn't sure if it was dark meat. 38:27 Julia Can she not eat? 38:28 Kieran No, she just doesn't like it. She hates dark Meat. Like dark meat chicken, dark meat turkey. 38:34 Julia Yeah. At least she knows herself. 38:35 Kieran I like that she'll eat ground beef, though. But I think she's trying to figure out, like, if it's dark meat turkey or ground beef. 38:39 Julia What were we just talking about? 38:40 Frank Spookly. So, yeah. Moral of the story. I don't. Me and him don't have the best relationship because I associate him with that time. 38:46 Julia That's crazy, considering you look just like him. Him. 38:48 Frank Okay. Me when I'm wearing an orange shirt today. Anyway. Well, my favorite Halloween movie. 38:55 Julia Yes. 38:56 Frank I was going to say Halloween Town, but I'll say Hocus Pocus. 38:59 Kieran That was going to be mine. 38:59 Julia That's a very Halloween. 39:00 Kieran I watched it last night. 39:02 Julia Okay. Yeah. 39:04 Frank Like, it just. 39:05 Kieran Okay. 39:06 Julia Thanks. 39:07 Kieran Sisters. 39:08 Julia Sisters. 39:10 Frank It's great. 39:10 Kieran I can quote pretty much 80% of that film. 39:12 Julia Really? I've only seen it, like, twice. 39:14 Kieran I can probably, like. I can do a pretty good play by play. 39:17 Frank Really? 39:17 Julia Do you like the newer one? Nope. 39:20 Kieran Not even a little. 39:20 Julia It's like they waited too long to. 39:22 Kieran Make it way too long. 39:23 Frank Also, call me a millennial. I do love them riding on the Roombas, though. That's a little. 39:27 Kieran That was funny. That made me. That didn't. But then when they were, like, in the Sephora whatever, it was like, putting makeup on and looking in the mirror. I was like, okay, all right. Film the first one in, like, 1991. That so far isn't, like, really even a thing. And then without, like, yeah, cell phones in the next one. 39:44 Julia Let's. 39:44 Kieran Let's take it down a notch. 39:45 Julia Yeah. 39:46 Frank Yeah. I also love it, though, because Ms. Carrie Bradshaw makes an appearance. Oh. She is one of the witches. 39:50 Julia Right. 39:51 Frank And always got to support my queen. 39:52 Kieran So just always was watching Sex in the City, Love. The other day. 39:55 Frank Big is going to the underworld. 39:57 Julia So Big is going to the underworld. Big's the zombie. 39:59 Frank Yeah. 40:00 Julia Yeah. 40:01 Frank Big's going to the graveyard. 40:02 Julia Yeah. Big. 40:03 Frank Oh, okay. 40:05 Kieran So on that note, we're actually going to be starting a new segment on the pod. 40:07 Julia Yes. 40:08 Kieran Called Notes App. 40:09 Julia Because I have a Notes app of things that I have to tell you guys. And I'm really passionate about this one because it kind of relates to the dead horse were beating earlier. 40:15 Kieran Wait, what time frame are we at right now? 40:17 Julia We have been talking for 40 minutes, so we're chilling. 40:19 Kieran We're chilling. Like, okay, pull up my notes. 40:21 Julia Up. Wait. Okay. Oh, sorry. 40:23 Frank I meant to say love. I said like. 40:25 Kieran Like and subscribe. And that's a great reminder that you actually be liking and subscribe. To this podcast because it's available on all streaming platforms wherever you get your podcast, Specifically Spotify and Apple Pod. 40:35 Frank The way you can tie things together is magnificent. You should just. I just want to commend you on that. 40:39 Kieran Thank you. I should be a voice actor. 40:40 Julia You should. 40:41 Kieran Welcome back this summer. 40:43 Julia Back with me. Back with me. 40:45 Kieran Julia Frank and Kieran take on the podcast for the fourth episode. Actually, I think this is gonna be the fifth. 40:51 Julia Oh, yeah. Oops. Frick. 40:53 Kieran We have to redo the whole podcast episode. 40:55 Julia We're recording the whole thing. Oh, my God. Okay, can I go first on the notes? I think no. Oh. 41:01 Kieran Oh, yeah, go ahead. 41:02 Julia Okay. Well, first I have to say I have like low key two things to say. The first one is just, okay, we talked about banana bread. And in like two episodes ago. When this comes out, it'll be two episodes ago. Right. 41:10 Kieran And how the callback. 41:11 Julia Thank you. 41:12 Kieran A reference. 41:12 Julia Right. So we talked about how banana bread is like, for a man's partner to give him banana bread is like a forehead kiss. It's like a forehead kiss. 41:22 Kieran It's an act. An act of affection, if you will. 41:25 Julia Right. And it's like, has the equal value of a forehead kiss. Okay. Right. I said it right. Because like, these days a forehead kiss means a lot. Like if you like it with a situation. Situation. 41:34 Kieran Really? 41:35 Julia Situationship. 41:36 Kieran You don't say. 41:38 Julia When a situationship gives you a forehead kiss, it's like you want more. Like you want a situation. 41:43 Kieran Yeah, forehead kiss. 41:47 Julia Okay. Anyway. 41:48 Frank Sorry. 41:48 Julia Anyway. Okay. 41:50 Frank We're yearning too much. 41:50 Julia Anyway, seasonally, it's now time for pumpkin bread. So I was home for fall break, and because I don't take my own advice that I gave you guys in the show. Made pumpkin bread for a man. I brought it over to his house and it has, hey, maybe even a better effect than banana bread did. 42:04 Kieran Oh. 42:04 Julia Because I talked to him on the phone last night. 42:07 Kieran Oh. 42:07 Julia And sorry. 42:08 Kieran We'll chat later on. We will. 42:09 Julia I'm sorry. I talked to him on the phone and he was like, I gotta go home and have a slice of your pumpkin bread. It was just so good. And I was like. And it was. 42:17 Kieran And it was. 42:17 Julia And it was. And I did move forward with eating a half of a loaf on my own. So, yeah, no shame. 42:22 Kieran It was fire when you brought pumpkin bread. I had a soup party that this past week. Yes, as you tell soup. I did. 42:28 Julia I had it. 42:30 Kieran Yeah, that's the sentence. 42:31 Julia We ate soup. 42:32 Frank Can I ask, like, what, like how many you had? 42:34 Kieran Yeah. So I made three soups I made chili. I made baked potato soup, and then I made tomato soup. Someone brought tortellini. And then someone brought. I also had a grilled cheese bar, so I made grilled cheese. 42:44 Frank I did hear about that. Yeah. 42:45 Kieran Yeah. So we had. Someone brought brownies. Somebody brought apple cinnamon rolls. 42:49 Julia Oh, somebody brought. 42:49 Kieran They were so good. 42:50 Julia Somebody brought pumpkin bread. 42:51 Kieran Someone brought pumpkin bread. And that's where I was going with this was Julia. So, by the way, so what are we now that you brought? And Julia did text me. She's like, do you want chocolate chips in it? I said, yes, please. So we'll be discussing. What are we later. 43:07 Julia Wait, wait. 43:08 Kieran You pretty much fired, though. 43:09 Julia Oh, yes. Yes. Yeah. 43:10 Kieran No, that was it. 43:11 Julia Oh, okay. 43:11 Kieran Just cut me off. 43:11 Julia That's fine. Okay. My. Anyway. Anyway. 43:14 Frank No label. 43:14 Kieran Yeah. 43:16 Julia What are we. Nothing. So cry. My. My actual thought for this section is. You guys know on Instagram, when a gym bro has an Instagram account, that's his gym account. And the names are some, like, crazy thing. It's like. It's like, train or die. Like, it's like, you know. 43:36 Kieran Yes. 43:37 Julia Why are we. Why is it. 43:38 Kieran Wait to the max 487, right? 43:40 Julia It's like, join along for the journey. And it's like, as I teach you. 43:45 Kieran How to get shredded, it's like, we're gonna be taking our 750 pound weights and repping. 43:51 Frank Let's get creative with some creatine. 43:53 Julia Oh, my God. And they, like, have, like. They give you, like, a tour of all their protein powders. 43:57 Kieran Oh, my gosh. Like, it's like a spice rack. 44:00 Julia But, like, just the banana bread guy, he has an entire cabinet full of different flavors of protein powder. He just collects them. 44:07 Frank Love that. 44:08 Kieran There's, like, so many comments I can make about that. 44:10 Julia Right? And they're like, how to get 80,000 grams of protein in your daily diet. All you're gonna do is be like Gaston and eat six dozen eggs a morning. 44:21 Kieran Six full chickens. Live extra live, roast extra live extra. 44:29 Frank Can I chime in with something with this? People who, you know, hey, each their own. But, like, everyone who's like, I gotta have these supplements. You're like, these powders. I'm like. But then, like, praise. Like a holistic. Like. 44:41 Kieran Right. 44:41 Frank That's not natural life. I just feel like, also, am I one to talk? No. Because I will be eating, you know, 3 grams of red 40 a day. 44:50 Julia Right? 44:50 Frank So, like. 44:51 Kieran Right. 44:51 Frank But also, I'm also an American, so that. And I'm also not advocating to be, like, holistic, healthy. 44:57 Julia Right. 44:57 Kieran I'm not lying. At no point. 45:01 Frank I own my poor diet. 45:03 Kieran So, no, I was talking about this, I think on the first pod episode. At one point last year, my diet was quite literally, and I'm not even joking. Root beer, saltines, and a pint of ice cream. That was all I ate every day for, like, a month. 45:13 Julia Go to meal. 45:14 Kieran Did I lose weight? Yes, because I was walking five pounds. But I was literally like, that was it. And I was like, wow. Like, life is so good. Like, I was. I was taking down four boxes of saltine. Not the packs. Like, the full box with the four sleeves. Like, that was 16 sleeves of saltine a week. 45:30 Frank Okay. Math. 45:33 Julia Okay. 45:34 Kieran We have an exam in two. 45:35 Frank How'd that, that. That exam go? 45:38 Kieran The first one, I got a 95. 45:40 Julia I won't be sharing what I got. 45:41 Frank Oh, okay. Hey, and we love you anyway. 45:43 Julia Thank you. 45:43 Kieran No, because I actually did jump out of the. This, like, the seat once again. I have a habit of, like, lifting upwards with my body. Like, I saw that grade. 45:50 Julia I literally went. 45:51 Kieran And I, like, had to run out before I started. Like, I literally was like. 45:54 Julia Because everybody's taking other exams around. No. 45:56 Kieran So I had to be quiet. I say, I can't remember my score. I can't remember my score. But also, like, I'm crying. Like, I about frolicked to the car. Like, it was crazy. So I think I actually decided to take a longer walk to work after that because I was just so high on life. I like that I will not be having that same experience in about a week and a half from now. So I'm gonna soak it in while I can. 46:13 Julia Okay, Everybody's notes. That. 46:15 Kieran Yes, Frank, do you want to go? 46:16 Frank You go. 46:16 Kieran You want me? 46:17 Julia Okay. 46:17 Frank I'm still thinking. 46:18 Kieran Okay. 46:18 Julia I have a couple. This is the one. I can't. 46:19 Kieran I don't think I've brought it up here, but I have brought it up with Julia once. Is that I wonder in the entirety of my life if I've seen all the variations of time on a clock. 46:27 Julia We were talking about this the other. 46:28 Kieran Day, and I've been thinking about this because, like, when is the last time you've ever seen 236 on a clock? 46:32 Julia Literally, I feel like I've seen two things. 46:34 Kieran Like, 5:12. Like, who sees 512? I don't. 5:19. Like, never heard of her. 342. Like, what? 46:40 Julia Yeah, like. 46:41 Kieran But I just wonder in, like, the span of my life if I've seen every single time variation. Because, like, obviously there's like, it happens twice a day. So, like, how. 46:48 Frank The chances are pretty high. 46:49 Kieran Yeah, it gets pretty good. I just wonder if I've, like, I've seen all of them. 46:52 Julia Yeah, right. Like. 46:54 Frank Or, like, can you, like, assign things to, like, oh, this happened at this time. 46:58 Julia Yeah. 46:58 Frank Which I don't know if that's even plausible because the only times that are really significant is, like, when you're born or, like, New Year's, so. 47:06 Julia Right. 47:07 Frank Wait, we got married. I meant. Okay. 47:09 Kieran Yeah, in the sense that. 47:11 Frank In the sense that. I mean, like, when things are, like, associated with, like, a specific time. 47:15 Kieran Wait, that actually has a same vein kind of question. I have kind of. You off that. 47:19 Frank Yeah. 47:19 Kieran Do you guys associate colors with numbers? 47:21 Frank Oh, absolutely. 47:23 Kieran So I have thoughts and feelings. I have colors with letters and colors with numbers. 47:27 Julia Yeah, me too. 47:27 Kieran That I have big thoughts on. 47:29 Frank Do you have them with months and days as well? 47:31 Julia I do. 47:31 Frank Yeah. 47:32 Julia Like seven. 47:32 Kieran Yeah. 47:33 Julia Okay. The color red, the number seven and Thursday are all the same. 47:37 Kieran I would disagree. 47:39 Frank I agree with you, Karen. 47:39 Julia Really? 47:40 Frank Yeah. No, seven's green. It is Thursday. 47:43 Kieran Seven is green. Seven is lime green. 47:45 Frank Oh, four is lime green. Seven is, like, darker green. 47:48 Kieran Four is purple. 47:49 Julia What about three is yellow? 47:50 Frank Three is blue, Babe. 47:52 Julia Three is not blue. 47:54 Kieran Three is, like, red. 47:56 Frank This is the same debate as, like, what. Like, what color notebook is science? 48:00 Kieran Green. 48:00 Frank Green. 48:01 Kieran I agree, and I'm so strongly on that. Green is science is English. 48:05 Julia Red is. 48:05 Kieran Red is English. 48:06 Frank What's. What's English? 48:07 Kieran No, red. 48:09 Frank Mostly blue. 48:09 Julia No, I agree. 48:10 Kieran Blue is math. No, I've seen this for my whole life. 48:13 Frank No, what's. What's what? Social studies. Yellow. Yellow I usually use. 48:17 Julia I used to have a yellow notebook. 48:18 Kieran It was either yellow or white. 48:19 Frank Well, at least we can agree with science and social studies. 48:22 Julia Yeah, I love social. 48:22 Kieran I'll take two out of four. Anyway, so I was just thinking about that, though. 48:27 Julia I have to sneeze. 48:28 Kieran No. Okay. Something I've also been, like, thinking about. There's so many I could, like, talk about, but, like, the power of sure or sure. Like, when someone texts me Sure. I. Like, I'm kind of going through three stages of grief. Like, I'm not quite sure where. Like. Like, I'm not quite aware of where we're at. Like, hey, do you want to come with me? Sure. Like, or is it, like, sure, or. 48:50 Frank Is it, like, sure, like, for sure? 48:52 Kieran Sure, like, sure, like, or if it's just, like, because maybe it's just, like, people I've been around in life, but I'm like, oh, hey, could you do that. And they're like, sure. Okay, so I'll just go ahead and leave, like whatever. 49:01 Frank Right? 49:02 Kieran Like something about the word sure is just so like. I feel like it has so many connotations depending on like the exact tone of voice. 49:08 Frank I agree. How do you say it? How do you say it? Do you say sure or sure? 49:14 Kieran When I'm like. In a comedic sense, I'll say sure. Because I'll be like, sure. But I'll be like, sure. Sure. 49:21 Frank Yeah, I think I say sure. 49:23 Julia You always say everything wrong. 49:25 Frank Wrong is crazy. 49:26 Kieran Different. 49:27 Frank Different. 49:27 Kieran This is an accepting environment. 49:29 Julia Thank you everybody but Frank. 49:31 Frank Okay, I'll be telling that to the linguistics department here that we met up with yesterday. 49:35 Julia I love them. 49:35 Frank Yes. At the state fair, they have a booth every year. 49:38 Kieran Yeah. 49:38 Frank Every year we get a new pin that has like a little. 49:40 Julia You know, I got another slay pin, this little collection and it's purple and I was like, you know what you're doing? 49:44 Kieran What kind of things did you guys collect or did you ever collect things? 49:47 Frank Rocks and like Crystals? 49:49 Kieran I have a couple. 49:50 Julia I used to collect rocks. I have a button collection that I inherited from my grandmother. I have a lot of books. I collect books. Which is like. I feel like a classic thing to collect. 49:59 Kieran Mine is keychains. Every time, every single time I travel somewhere, I buy a keychain. Like every time I have a different life events. Like when I started college, I got an NC State keychain so I can like tell little stories by my keychains. Another was special quarters. I always collected quarters that had like weird designs on them. 50:17 Frank Yeah. 50:17 Kieran So I have quarters from like 1960 and like. Like I have a quarter from like 2012 that like has like weird designs on it. 50:23 Frank Interesting. 50:24 Julia Okay. 50:24 Frank I like that. Good for you. 50:25 Kieran I feel like that's another notes app thought. 50:27 Frank What about someone else who notes? 50:29 Julia No tap. 50:31 Frank Well, this is kind of like in vein of what I'm doing tomorrow. I'm seeing Billie Eilish tomorrow in Charlotte. Miss Eyelash Shout out Miss to my girl. Missing her. 50:39 Kieran Hey. 50:40 Frank Saw her once. 50:40 Kieran Never met. 50:41 Frank Never met her. But my thought with that is like the concert experience. And I know this is like such like a talked about debate already, but like the post concert amnesia. 50:52 Julia Yeah. 50:53 Frank And it's like I. Cause I saw her with Mia last year and it was like it was a great concert. I loved it and I'm happy to be back. But like I could not tell you really what happened. So it's like, will I be experiencing it like for the first time Again tomorrow. It's like, I feel like post concert amnesia is such a real thing. And she talked about. Cause it's low key scary because like. 51:13 Julia After Taylor Swift, Frank and I went to Taylor Swift with a few of our other friends and that was like I had amnesia after that. I was like, well, I don't know what just happened. I like, did we do anything yesterday or. 51:24 Frank And it's like, do I remember the videos or do I remember being there? 51:27 Kieran Right? 51:28 Frank So that's something to sit on. 51:30 Kieran I threw up. I love that. I threw up after a concert once. 51:36 Frank Because I was so sad. 51:38 Kieran After Sam Smith. I saw Sam Smith a couple years ago. 51:42 Julia I love that you love Sansmith. 51:44 Kieran I'm seeing Sam Smith again in New York. 51:46 Frank Oh my goodness. Madison Square. 51:48 Kieran Yeah. No, no, they're doing like a. It's around like 30 people in like. Because it's like they've been performing for the past like few months in this like, same location. It's like a special thing. But I saw Sam Smith for the first time. I grew up listening to Sam Smith. My mom had Sam Smith as her ringtone. So like, me and Sam, like, were tight. Mommy don't know. 52:09 Julia Daddy's kidding. 52:10 Kieran It was one time. 52:10 Frank We're gonna shut off your mic. 52:12 Julia I actually have a control of my. 52:13 Frank So sorry. 52:14 Kieran Okay, it's my turn to speak, not yours. So yeah, bubbles in our mouth. I actually did that at the sweet party. I was trying to tell them it's time to eat. And I said, bubbles in our mouth. One, two, three, eyes on me. And they all listen in our mouth. Soon, yes, soon to be. But yeah, I got so excited. Spoon to be. 52:31 Julia All right. 52:31 Kieran That was me when I did. I called it souptober. And then I would call it spooky. S P O U P Y Spooky. 52:37 Frank Right. 52:38 Kieran But yeah, I threw up after Sam Smith because I was so excited. I've also seen Hosier like four times. Three or four times. Could not tell you, like, anything that happened. 52:46 Julia Well, we saw last year. 52:48 Kieran I was actually there at that same. 52:49 Julia One actually, but we didn't get tickets. We were just on the boardwalk and there's like a video of Cleo, like, Hoziersings the first note and Cleo clutches their chest. They're like. 52:57 Frank And it's like collapses almost. 52:59 Julia So millennial. Like me when I see the Disney castle for the first time after Covid and they collapse to their knees. 53:06 Frank That's me. Or that video. Watching Taylor Swift announcement. The tortured poets department. 53:10 Kieran Oh, I can't. 53:11 Frank I'll show it to you after this. But it's like, I was watching the Grammys and I was recording it. Cause of course. And she announces she was like, my new album. And I like, shriek. 53:19 Julia Yeah, it's really funny. 53:20 Frank And looking back, hey, let's calm down. 53:22 Kieran That was me in a Starbucks, actually. When Sam Smith announced they were going on tour. I had skipped class, dance class, and went to Starbucks. Cause it was in walking distance. And I was just sitting there. And I saw the notification because they had posted it on their Instagram. And I called my mom hysterically crying. And she actually had gotten my dad. 53:42 Julia Out of a meeting. 53:43 Kieran Like, something's wrong with Kieran. Like, we need to go. And I was like, no. Sam Smith saw tour. 53:47 Julia Like, Sam Smith. 53:48 Kieran My mom was like, I'm gonna kill you. Like, I'm going to actually harm you when I see you next. 53:52 Frank That. Wait, that. Okay, I'm sorry. That reminds me of when I called you when I left your house. Do you want to tell the story. 53:59 Julia From your point of view? 53:59 Frank Okay. 54:00 Julia We had been hanging out, and he left my house at like, 11pm and he's driving home. I. He, like, used to live, like, 15 minutes away from me. So in that time, I had taken a shower, gotten out of the shower. It was in my bed being cozy. He calls me and he says, Ju. And I say, oh, my God. Oh, my God. He's in a car wreck. Like, let me get out of my bed. Like, I, you know, jump up, right? I'm like. I'm like, frank, are you okay? Like, what's wrong? And he's like, there's a spider in my car. And I'm like, oh, you're freaking kidding me. Like, be freaky. 54:27 Frank For real. I was parked out of the car, actually. I was out of the car. I was so safe. And I was like, Ju, there's a spider this big. 54:33 Kieran And it was, like, on my center console. And I screamed and it, like, ran at me fast. I. 54:37 Frank Hey, mind you, this was a few months ago. 54:41 Kieran Well, so I actually do the same thing when the Kentucky butter cake cookie at Crumble comes. I cannot. Like, I love that cookie so much. The last time that it came out, a few weeks ago, I had called my parents and I individually and I said, are you sitting down? You need to sit down. Like, Like, I need you to be sitting down when I tell you this. Like, I was like. And they're like, oh, my God, like, what? Like, I'm at work. Like, do you need me to, like, blah, blah. I was like, the Kentucky Buttercake cookies back, and they were like, I'm hanging out. 55:03 Frank Right. 55:04 Julia Oh, my God. You know what makes me that excited is when you guys follow our Instagram @TWTSpod. 55:13 Kieran One note from Frank. 55:13 Frank I had one more notes app thing. 55:15 Kieran To say is that. 55:15 Julia Okay, well, we're at 55 minutes. 55:17 Frank I'll go super quick. 55:18 Kieran So fast. 55:19 Frank It was kind of the same vein about, you know, times. You ever think about, like. No, like, days, like, specific dates could mean have so much significance in the future, but you just don't know it. Yeah, like, I think about, like, times, like, days, like I've met people or like. 55:33 Kieran Or like the butterfly effect or whatever. 55:35 Frank Yeah, we're talking about this the other. 55:37 Julia Day, but just like, you know, that had that effect. 55:40 Frank I don't remember anyway, but it's just like. To think of, like, I don't know, like, a day in October can mean nothing, but then next year it's like. 55:46 Kieran Oh, my God, so much. 55:47 Frank It's like, you know, like. Like this is that, like, I'll have a kid or, like, I'll get married. 55:51 Kieran Yeah. 55:52 Frank And it's like, oh, my God. You know, you just never know. 55:55 Kieran You know what else is significant to me? Having Frank on the podcast today. 55:59 Julia Thank you for coming. 56:01 Frank So significant to me, too. This has been a long time coming. Hey, fifth episode. But I. 56:06 Kieran Significant date for you. 56:07 Frank It sure was. When will this be out? October 31st. Yes, that'll be a significant. A lot of significant things will be happening that day. And yeah, I'm just so happy to be here. Thank you for having me on the pod with my two favorite co. My co. My co Podders. What are you guys called? 56:23 Kieran Co hosts, co Podders, co casters. Well, you can keep up with this cocast at twtspod. You can also get our individual accounts. Well, if you want to follow along on our journey, tell us what you're thinking, what you want to hear, and what you thought of the pod. We will also make sure to tag Frank when we post about this episode. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty significant to me because we're here to tell you the. 56:47 Julia Truth, because they don't always get it right. Bye, guys. Ep 5 How to Slay Halloweekend_mixdown.mp3 Meeting created at: 28th Oct, 2025 - 10:33 AM