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Hello.

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All of my fellow mystics.

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And weirdos.

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And witches.

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This is the she who is seeking podcast.

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And it's where I explore themes
like spaciousness, dreams, fear

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and pleasure with curiosity.

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But this is the upside down.

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So.

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..This week, we're reflecting
upon the changes made to history.

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Freedom of choice and how we
can manage to live in a country

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that seems to not value women.

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Or femmes.

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Or those with the ability to get
pregnant among other undervalued groups.

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And what do I think I know.

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And perhaps more importantly,
what am I missing?

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And do you have to be a
mystic, Witch or weirdo?

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No, of course not.

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But I imagine it will appeal to
you more if you're open, curious

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and not afraid of those words.

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And this episode may make you mad.

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But who am I kidding?

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We're all mad here.

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And this isn't our typical episode.

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Thank goodness.

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The research I did for it
was intense and upsetting.

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But I am your host and guide
Meena Melissa Leigh and I want

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to welcome you into our parlor.

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So grab a lovely cup of tea.

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And today.

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We are going to.

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Explore.

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This new territory that we're in.

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It's true that this is my place.

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These fields and Hills

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and Glens and sagebrush.

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But under all those leaves.

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are snake holes.

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Could be fang and slither sleeping.

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Do I get to walk there too?

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Is my walking stick to bash or warn?

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I want to tread freely steps unmeasured.

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If it were me and I liked the sun so much.

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I'd climb and slither to the tallest peak.

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But we all like it here.

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It's all whore hound and
yellow mustard flowers.

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I'll share with you this dappled light.

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Birdsong ,Bee hums,
peppercorns and breezes.

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We're also lucky to breathe free here.

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Except for when we're not.

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Except for when we need to be more worried
about the laws that govern the land.

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Because they're being stripped away.

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Except for when there are rumblings of
Clarence Thomas wanting to revisit the

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laws that protect same sex relationships
and gay marriage and birth control.

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And I'm really crushed that
there are people who want to

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take rights away from others.

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That they themselves have.

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Calling into question- LGBTQ relationships
is in my opinion, an act of hate.

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Love is love.

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And trying to take that
ability away from other people.

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Is damaging and hateful.

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And today as this episode
drops, it's the 4th of July.

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Oh, The irony.

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This explosive fanfare
of imaginary freedom.

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It is so sad to me.

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Because I want to love this country
that I live in really badly.

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I mean who wouldn't.

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And yet, if this was a relationship,
and you told the gist to your friend.

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About what has been
going on with you guys?

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Your friend would say, um, this is an
abusive bullying that's happening here.

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There seems to be some
toxic gas lighting too.

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Like how they say it's to protect
lives, but it's fine with them.

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If you lose YOUR life.

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Rude.

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And I'm being a little light and
flippant sounding because unfiltered

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rage is stressful to bear witness to.

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And this honestly, isn't my typical topic.

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It isn't what I felt comfortable talking
about, but my brain is still glitching

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from what's happening in the world.

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And if you're hearing this in the
future, we're about a week and a half

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out from the overturning of Roe vs.

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Wade.

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By the Supreme court of the United States.

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And we're still reeling after
the government has declared that

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states can make their own rulings.

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And those rulings said, women in 26
states are not bodily autonomous.

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Women and girls and folks
who can get pregnant.

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And this is a trigger warning
for sexual predation and rape.

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And I didn't put it at the top of the show
because all of the talk about this topic

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includes this alarming fact among others.

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Which is there are states
that have no exception.

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For incest.

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Meaning, if a child is
raped by their father.

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That child would be forced to
endure the pain and anguish

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of birthing their sibling.

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And how anyone passing a law, who
claims to care about children?

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Could think that that is okay?

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Is beyond me.

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Right now I have chills and I
am really trying not to cry.

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And.

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Ectopic pregnancy that can not
result in the birth of a baby.

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It's impossible.

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There's been zero.

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That have ever been born.

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From ectopic pregnancy.

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But it can result in
the death of the mother.

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And there are states where there
is no exception for that either.

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Meaning.

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A hundred percent of the time.

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There's no baby born.

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And quick treatment for an
ectopic pregnancy is vital

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to protect the mother's life.

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Because the egg that's implanted
in that fallopian tube is going

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to burst and there can be severe
internal bleeding and maternal death.

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And yet.

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There's no exception to
save the mother's life.

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How can states that have
made this decision possibly

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claim to care about life?

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Particularly women's lives.

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And I know that a lot of states are not
claiming that they're being upfront and

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saying that it is only this unborn baby.

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That is important.

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and not the lives of women and children
and people who are already alive.

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It's leaving me with no words.

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It's very.

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It's beyond horrible.

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And it's not about protecting
the lives of children.

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If they really wanted to
protect the lives of children.

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Then there would be better gun control.

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Childcare universal health care.

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Free or low cost health insurance for all.

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Secure housing, food
security, and on and on.

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And I absolutely know
that, you know, this.

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And I feel certain that there is no one
who would be listening to this podcast.

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That doesn't know this, and
yet I cannot say nothing.

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None of us can.

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There's just too much to lose
and there's too much at stake.

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The freedoms that we have fought for are
very fragile for marginalized groups.

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And this is making me
realize that even more.

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And it's all a farce, this
separation of church and state.

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Give me a.

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Break.

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It is laughable.

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How any of them can claim that with
this straight face is beyond me.

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And.

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I just want to take a minute.

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To take a breath.

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Let's all just do that.

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Shall we?

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Okay.

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So we are in freeze.

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But we are also planning.

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We are in despair.

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But our rage shakes mountains.

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Point us where we need to go.

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My sisters and I shall
sync up like magnets.

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So, what do we do?

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This period that we are in is a
tough one, because it's essentially

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about managing the situation.

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And staying connected and being able
to act quickly when opportunities rise.

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For.

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The ability to remedy
this terrible injustice.

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And I am sending love and
bodily autonomy for all of us.

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I meditated quite a bit on the
healing that needs to be done.

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And this is what I came up with.

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Globally.

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As far as wars, environmental
issues, land theft.

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The pain and suffering of those with
food insecurity and housing shortages.

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Healing Countrywide.

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The pain, betrayal, and anger.

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That is flowing like a virus.

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We many of us at least feels such a
deep sense of betrayal and collusion.

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The two major sides seem to think that
the other side is absolutely bonkers.

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And there seems to be zero
solution on the horizon.

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We need a healing bestowed upon us.

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That is so deep.

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And penetrating.

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That it would be akin to a flood.

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Something to wash away and
sooth generations of mistrust,

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exploitation and abuse.

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Class-wise the healing we need is deeper
and more pervasive than the Countrywide.

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It's all the same, but.

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It's more in the bones.

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Those most abused or the least
trusting, and with good reason.

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The country has made it clear that
only the highest echelons are valued.

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Those with means will always get exactly
what they need when they need it.

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Rising to power on the backs of the
underpaid, overworked and undervalued.

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They'll always have healthcare.

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And access to safe and secret abortions.

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While those have limited means are
forced to resort to dangerous procedures.

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Community-wise.

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This is the healing that says.

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I see you.

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I see even more deeply
the pain you endure.

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And this healing requires us to
stand by those who are in need.

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Who are disrespected.

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And who feel undervalued.

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As far as the healing for
household and families.

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There will be times when those
under the same roof or in

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the same bloodline disagree.

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And, it's going to
cause division and pain.

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And I think we need to try to
have conversations and hopefully

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find some common ground.

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Because.

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We have more experience
and history with them.

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So maybe we can use this as a training
ground to learn how to speak with

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them and then bring this knowledge,
to be able to speak with others.

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And healing for self.

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I will speak about the healing
for my personal self, my issues.

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Which is the need for
compassion for myself.

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Because I am pissed.

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Pissed because they
don't have the answers.

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And cause I can't fix this right now.

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Also on another note, I know that I
may make people mad or frustrated.

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Hopefully not.

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You dear listener.

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But that's the thing.

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There's a lot of us out there
with differing opinions.

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And differing emotions.

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That backup our personal stance.

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There's even people with whom I agree.

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And vice versa on these issues.

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The issues of bodily autonomy, et cetera.

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And yet they may not agree with my
desire to appeal to people's humanity.

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People that are not
sharing the same views.

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And it isn't that things
were great before.

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But  that I do think that things
have gotten way worse and more

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polarized over the last few years.

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And I'd like to see that lose momentum.

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It's something that you can definitely
see on social media, for instance.

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Where we tend to follow and
be followed by people who have

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similar opinions to our own.

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And while I have unfollowed people that
are stressful to me and crazy making.

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I worry that we seem to be less and
less willing to reach across the aisle.

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And even that like sounds gross
in my mouth saying it, but.

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It's like the only
illustration I could think of.

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Because it's late.

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But I worry.

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That we just are maybe losing
our desire to want to do that.

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And maybe I'm naive, but I
really do try to lead my life

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from a place of non-dualism and.

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From a heart of love.

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And I am not perfect at it.

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And sometimes I am tempted to
just put that down and be ragingly

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pissed off and unyielding.

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I see others in this state and it
looks comforting and delicious to just

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be like really fucking pissed off.

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But I can't see how that leads anywhere.

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Long-term other than another civil war.

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Um, like kind of getting close, maybe.

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Hopefully not, but it's
feeling like that right now.

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There's definitely a power pulsating
we want to have power to live and

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to see that potential realized.

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It is necessary.

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To feel safe.

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But when we are so divided.

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What makes us feel protected?

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Wow.

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I think to be in a place where
our life can be expressed.

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And marginalized groups are
brought in and valued equally.

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And as a person who wants to do her
very best, the places in which I can let

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in more good feels so vast right now.

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More doing and more doing good.

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More being open to the solutions.

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More advocating for those who either
can't advocate for themselves.

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Or whose voices need to be amplified.

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Being fluid and nimble and ready
to activate like a sleeper agent.

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If possibilities, present
themselves to facilitate change.

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It is a raw and tender
place to operate from.

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But I'm going to keep doing my best.

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And like I said, this is more from
a place of feeling my feelings

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and what I'm seeing others feel.

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So I wanted to offer a little bit of.

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Resources to you.

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First of all, I'd like to say as a
witchy folk, urbalism plant lover.

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You would think I would be all over herbal
remedies as a first line of defense,

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but in doing research, I landed on.

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Perhaps uplifting.

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Prescriptions of myth.

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Mifeprisone I think that's how you say it.

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And Misprostol, you can
tell, I don't take my drugs.

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Usually, I mean,

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Welbutrin.

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An Adderall, if I'm honest.

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But like, not those things, I
don't know how to say those, but

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you know what I'm talking about.

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And.

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It looks like those are safer
and a more sure-fire option.

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So these medications are known
to be safer than Tylenol.

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And 95% effective.

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'cause I was thinking if you were
to do a home remedy and you weren't

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sure if it was totally effective.

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Or if.

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You know, Sometimes there's
miscarriages that need like a DNC.

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It just seems like the abortion
pill may be a way to go.

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So I have included resources to help
you find the abortion pill plan C,

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which maybe available to you by mail.

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And lots of other resources
in the show notes.

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And yes, I realized that it may
be correct to get your hands on.

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Or to pay for them, but there are
some resources in the show notes that

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do have options for financial aid.

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And there are quite a few people
donating funds to keep this option

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open for as many people as possible.

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Even if you don't imagine
needing the information yourself.

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I would suggest listening to the podcast
medicine stories by Amber Magnolia

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Hill and it would be episode 73 and 74.

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Where she talks to her
guests samantha is the Purim.

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And they go over herbs and.

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They talk about, womb sovereignty and.

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There's just a lot of really
good information in there

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between the two episodes.

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So.

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I think you were just
trying to get more familiar.

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With such things that is a
really good place to start.

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And she also.

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Suggest there's another entire podcast
called self managed abortion podcast.

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And I haven't listened to that,
but it may be of interest to you.

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I was torn about including more
information on holistic remedies here.

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And decided that since it's such a
personal choice, that means quite a bit

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of personal research, I would include
the links in the show notes to those

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episodes, and within her show notes,
there is a lot of other resources that

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could steer you in the right direction.

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I've included a little primer in
the show notes that I felt was

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very useful and I didn't want to
regurgitate all that information

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because it's well written and concise.

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So I just included it.

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And I suggest you take a look at it.

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it's definitely worth reading even if
you don't think you're going to need

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access to any of this information.

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It's just a good learning resource.

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I just want to say thank you for
bearing with me as I am in this pain.

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And I know that you're I'm sure
also in your own pain right now.

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And this is the she
who is seeking podcast.

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Just feels funny to say,
which is the love child of me.

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Meena Melissa Leigh.

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And all the views and ideas and thoughts
regarding the topics in this episode

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are pretty widespread and standard.

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Usually I say.

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That they're my own thoughts,
but this week, I think a

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lot of us are in agreement.

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And dreaming the same nightmare.

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The music is the beautiful songs.

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Snake river by siren in the sea.

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And please remember it is up
to you to make good choices

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about your life and your health.

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And there are people all over in safe
states who are setting up resources

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for those who need safe abortions.

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And I am so rooting for you and.

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I'm advocating for you and that
you create a life that you love.

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And that you live it every day.

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You may want to copy
and save the resources.

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In case you or someone,
you know, needs them.

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So you don't have to track it down.

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Um, or.

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It might be handy to save
it in case this episode gets

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Transcribing...

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taken down.

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I mean, I don't think
that's going to happen, but.

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I don't know if it gets more
Handmaid's tale up in here.

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You never know.

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So if you have any thoughts, come find
me over on Instagram at Who's seeking.

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or@shewhoisseekingdottransistor.fm.

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Go in peace and power and Blessed be.

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And also, I'm sorry if.

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Talking about the Handmaid's
tale is triggering.

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It is for me, but it's
also what's on my mind.

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It's what, I'm the most fearful of.

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Not to mention like all of the, like,
Witch hunting Interweaving between

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these things Oh, it's just a mess.

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okay love you bye I will link to those
resources, make sure you check them out.

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And I hope they're helpful.