What does it mean to raise — or be — a “spicy one”? In this deeply honest and energizing conversation, Katy Bowman and author
Mary Van Geffen unpack what it’s like to parent strong-willed, big-feeling kids (and stay sane while doing it). They discuss how movement can support self-regulation and co-regulation, helping both parent and child navigate intensity with compassion and humor. Together, they look at the role of movement before, during, and after heated moments — as well as the art of knowing when to walk away. This episode offers practical wisdom for growing your “calm muscle” and showing up as the safest person in the room.
0:00 – Meet Mary Van Geffen – Parenting insights for “Spicy Ones”
0:05 – What is a “Spicy One”? – Understanding strong-willed, big-feeling kids
0:07 – Regulation & Co-Regulation – How parents and kids navigate intensity together
0:10 – Contagious Emotions &
Training your ‘Calm’ Muscle– Mirror neurons in action
0:14 – Quick Regulation Tools – Breathing, sensing, and self-talk
0:19 – Move to Regulate – Using movement before, during, and after heated moments
0:37 – Massage & Connection – Diffusing tension with touch
0:52 – Mary’s Resources – Books, classes, and meditations
0:53 – Meet Tyler Benner & Venn Design – Movement-friendly furniture and innovative tools
0:54 – Dynamic Furniture – Air Chairs and floor cushions that encourage motion
0:57 – Genius Energy & Archery – Aligning bones for power and precision
1:04 – Tyler’s Shot Trainer – Archery form and physics made simple
1:07 – Barefoot Cycling Shoes – The first foot-shaped cycling shoes designed for comfort and performance
What is Move Your DNA with Katy Bowman?
Movement isn’t optional—our bodies need it to thrive. Many of us struggle to get regular exercise, and even when we do, it can fall short of truly nourishing the body from head to toe. How can we move more—a lot more—when parts of us are sore, stiff, or simply forgotten in our busy lives?
Join biomechanist Katy Bowman, M.S., and biologist Dr. Jeannette Loram on Move Your DNA, where big-picture science meets practical action. Together, they explore biomechanics, kinesiology, physiology, cellular biology, and natural human movement—and translate it into simple, effective ways to wake up your trillion body parts. With humor, curiosity, and a focus on longevity, Katy and Jeannette help you move smarter, move more, and create a more natural habitat for yourself and your communities in today’s mostly sedentary world.