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Say you can't sleep? Baby, I know. That's that me. That's that

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us. It's the DC Beer Show. We are at DC Beer

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across social media. Brandy, what are you

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drinking tonight? Actually, so I drink 2 beers tonight.

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I drink half of an Iron Simms. And what is Iron

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Simms, you may ask? Well, it is the collaboration beer

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that Dynasty brewed for bitter fruit, black brew

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movement, Harvey Wilder Foundation, liquid intrusion.

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Andrew of liquid intrusion actually came up with a recipe.

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Fucking brilliant. Joy Helms Soul Mega, Black

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Beauty, Black Viking, Urban Garden. It is a peach chamomile

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saison, and this was my last can. I have absolutely destroyed this

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beer even though it's not even my go to style of beer. Well done.

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Go support your black owned breweries all year long, not

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just for Juneteenth or Black History Month. We

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have many of them in the DMV. Go support them. I

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also had havesies of a Final Gravity,

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which is out of Richmond. It is Rights of Spring, the

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ginger honey lager. It is so

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perfectly balanced. It's barely gingery,

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so it doesn't really have all that spice and heat,

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and the honey is like a wisp of there, but it's there

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enough for you to taste it. It's just this beautiful

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beer, and then back to back having the peach

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Kimbile Saison and the honey ginger lager.

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I mean, I feel like I'm in some sort of bougie spa

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right now where they serve nice fancy beer. What are you

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drinking, mister Stein? Well, thank you, Brandy. I

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am having Senate beer, the

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wonderful Christian Heierich Brewing Company, Senate

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beer, produced at Wright Proper, a joint public history

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project between the Hyrick House Museum and my firm, the

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Lost Loggers, the beverage research firm. This

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is the original Senate beer, the pale lager

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with corn. So it's a pretty wonderful

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beverage that I'm enjoying this warm, warm

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evening. It's delightful. Big fan. Say, Mike,

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pretty soon my understanding is that you're gonna have to specify

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what you mean when you say a senate. Will it be

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a senate American adjunct light style

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lager or will it be a

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Mersin style lager? Well, in the words of the

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Heierich House Museum, Maersen is back, DC.

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So, yes, we spent years, researching Maersen and pretty

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soon on August 9th, to be specific, Friday,

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August 9th, you'll be able to taste, Hi Rick, Senate

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Mertzen. We're super excited about it. Before I give my shout

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out, Mike, the people have 1 question. Will there be flicked corn

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in senate Meriden in true American fashion? No. You

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know, shockingly, my colleague Peter Jones, who's the other

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half of Lost Lagers, and I believe that

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Mertzen may have been the only high rank brewery

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beer without corn or rice. We know

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you know, very popular at the time. So from 18

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late 1800, early 1900, and even post prohibition into the thirties and

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forties, corn and rice are the number

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1 product. You know? They're huge in American brewing. So when

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we came across this merits and recipe, we're shocked to find

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nary 1 kernel of corn nor 1 grain

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of rice. So this is an all malt

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beer just like it would be in the old country? You got

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it. You got it. Alright. Which which was a weird thing for, the biggest brewery

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in DC, and, you know, we were talking about the

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biggest brewery in DC on brew day. Heirik brewed sometimes a

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100000 barrels or more. Just for reference, I checked the

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Brewers Association's, site for DC output.

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They had us listed at 31, 000 barrels last year.

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So it's, almost about 70, 000 more barrels

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on average were brewed, you know, in in the 19 thirties around this time.

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This recipe's from 1933, so, you know, we need to catch up,

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Jake. We need to brew about 70, 000 more barrels to hit,

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the historic 19 thirties level. Well, you know, I I appreciate you taking the

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time to be on the podcast instead of, you know, doing 2 or

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3 shifts, to on a on a on a

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15 barrel system to yeah. I should've cranked out another 60 barrels.

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What am I doing? Podcasting. That's right. Yeah. Stop stop talking to me. Put put

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your waiters back on. Put your galaches back on, and, you know, get in there.

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Start shuffling. Well, thanks for the voter confidence. Yeah. Alright.

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So keeping it, high Rick or high Rick adjacent, I have not beer here,

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but it is Ancho's Quince Dry Cider.

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Oh. 6.9 percent because keeping it under 7 is

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always nice for tax purposes. That's right. But the Quince

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adds this kind of nice, like, tropical citrusy

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funk to it. It's, native yeast from Adams County, Pennsylvania.

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A a lovely cider. I really like just like that nice little tropical addition,

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and the kinda extra tartness that quince brings. Jake, here's

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my question. Yeah. This cider Mhmm. Typically, it's with apples, fermented

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apples. This 1 also has, quince, fermented quince. Is it a

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sweet cider, or is it a dry cider? It is

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a dry cider as most on show ciders are.

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They they let that native yeast rip, and so the finish is dry.

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But it does have this, sort of distinct, kind of summery vibe

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upfront. Because if you bite into a quints,

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raw, you're a psychopath because they are incredibly

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tart and often hard. But in a side yeah. It's just

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it's kicking off this, like, this lovely, almost like

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kind of like persimmonie, pineappley, bready note.

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It just you know, that it adds, like, a little more of a tiki

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summertime vibe to the cider while still, you know, Quince

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being, a cousin of apple, keeping it in that

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cider family. You know, it's not a passion fruit cider. It's not a pineapple

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cider. It's not a dry hop cider. It's just Apples

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Alright. News item number 1 is,

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I think, birch and barley. July 13th, their

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last day before they get replaced by Mallard,

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a friend of DC beer from way back when, chef

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Hamilton Johnson, ex Vidalia shout out to Vidalia,

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way back when over on 19th and m, and a Big Hunt

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regular back in the day is gonna do kind of like new

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American southern style food at Mallard under Church

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Key. Do we have any hot takes about this? What do we make

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of, you know, birch and barley having a 14, 15 year

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run? Call them to the day. Well, no

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hot takes, but, tepid takes. House made

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tots will still be there. Absolutely. Yeah. But then, you

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know, we've got country ham. We've got, spicy

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pork sausage, fungus among us. You know? Thrilled to see a

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vegetarian option on there. I'm willing to say

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that this may be better than the birch

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and barley we have seen of late because it's new and

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exciting. It's with the seasoned chef, Jake, who you

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know can crank out quality quality

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foodstuffs, good sourcing, good ingredients. So I'm of

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the mind that this may be better than what we've seen from burch

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and barley. Yeah. I don't like I don't want, you know, the commentary

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among the DC beer, you know, community to read too

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much into this. Like, oh, birch and barley is going away, and so that means

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that a beer centric fine dining restaurant cannot

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succeed. Like, I don't want that to be the

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takeaway here. I feel like 15 years,

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especially in dining, that's an eternity.

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Restaurants kind of come and go. A great many of them

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fail within the 1st 3 to 5 years, if not the 1st

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year or so, in ways that breweries

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don't. Like if a brewery opens and immediately closes,

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that's awful. If a brewery is open for 10 years and then

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closes, that's also awful. But if you compare the churn

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of breweries to the churn in restaurants, it's apples and

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oranges. 15 years is a while. I really do think that

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bergton barley succeeded at their goal, which was, to

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give beer a place at the table alongside wine and

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such. And I think we'll see that continue at Mallard as

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well. Yeah. I think, writ large, we've seen the success

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of craft beer on a national scale. You know,

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the phrases that I'm hearing is craft beer is

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now just beer. Right? And and in a sense,

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obviously, it's not apples to apples with fine dining is now just

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dining. But to exist in that fine dining space with a

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beer focus, you know, it it's it's gained ground and we've

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seen more of it. So what do you make of that, Jake? Would you agree

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that craft beer has become just beer and that's

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kind of where we're at, or do you think something different represents the

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landscape better? Yeah. So this is, I think, is, like, the double edged sword

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that to me is very interesting. In the words of Rosie Perez in White Men

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Can't Jump, sometimes when you win, you really lose,

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and sometimes when you lose, you really win. And, like,

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what does it look like that we're all, I think, in the craft beer

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industry, very angsty about the present and

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the future? Sales and growth both seem

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stagnant. There's a lot of excess capacity at breweries, that we

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can get into in a little bit. But

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if craft beer is just beer, and if you can

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buy that beer so many more

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places now than you could 20,

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30 years ago. And if there are so many more local

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breweries doing their things, and you can travel, and you

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can go, and you can visit. Aren't those all

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wins? Like, I know that we're all super angsty and

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that the number of breweries opening and breweries closing

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is currently about breakeven as opposed to, like, the rampant

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breakneck pace, that we had Mhmm. For the

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last 15 plus years. Yeah. But, like, you and

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I both know, like, we can go into rural Pennsylvania

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Sheetz gas stations and get 3 week old

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Trokes. Mhmm. Like, my goodness.

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Like, that's great. It's like, that's all I ever

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wanted out of all of this Fair. Was to be able to drink local

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beer and be able to drink fresh beer.

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Pennsylvania distributor to find some August Diner,

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Edelstoff, and I didn't know how good it was locally.

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of the brew shop in Arlington. And their Edelstauff, I didn't know

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how fresh it was until I had stale distributor Edelstauff

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in Harrisburg. But that being said, I'm a fool if I don't take the

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3 week old at the sheets, and I go seeking

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German lager from Munich when I'm in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.

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All that being said, Jake, I wanna bring up, an interesting point

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raised on Twitter. We published an article, the

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circle of brewery life closures, beer, metals, and more. And

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Jeff Allworth chimed in to say DC beer gut

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check description and subtweet. And, of course, the gut check

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is all worth mentioning. How many of the 2014 Great American Beer

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Festival winners from your state are still in business today. DC

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beer found just 30% survival rate, and then

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he went on to say Oregon's doing better. He's got an 80%

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survival rate. But, yeah, Jake, maintaining is the new

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expansion, isn't it? If your brewery stays in business for 10 or 15

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years, that's wonderful. But, yeah, we've we've been through this period

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where we've seen some great growth, but then we've seen some great closures, and

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that seems to still be, the topic of

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today. So if you wanna start a brewery

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today, you might take a look around the landscape.

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Like, you don't necessarily need a brick and mortar

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if you take a look at your local breweries and you

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see that they've got this tank space. Right? Let's

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say again, purely hypothetical. Atlas, by

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the way, congrats to their Virginia grand opening. Yes. They'll be

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brewing there soon. Top room for now. So for those of us

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who are buying it in. Coming. Atlas is the 1st

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DC production brewery to open a facility in Virginia. Not the

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first ever, of course. Speaking of the Christian Heirek Brewery, they had a

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bottling facility in Richmond, in Baltimore, yada yada. But

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this is the first of the modern era where we've seen Atlas

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now, a DC mainstay opening shop

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in Alexandria. Go on, Jake. So

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Atlas, if they use

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every single tank and they fill them up,

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they're gonna have too much beer. That is, they can't sell it on

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premise across all their locations. They can send it out

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to distribution, but it's going to sit

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some places. And so they've got this excess

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capacity. Again, this is something that Jeff Allworth mentioned,

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over his blog, Birvana, which if you're listening to this show

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this show, you should be reading because it's a great blog. He's got

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data from Bart Watson over the Brewers Association, their

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economist, who just mentions, well, growth is stagnant, and there's

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all this excess capacity. If you want to get beer

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into the market, maybe you don't need real estate.

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unused at your local brewery. And so here in

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DC, you know, DC brow has done some

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contract brewing. Soul Mega brews out of DC C. Brown.

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D. C. Brown has done some stuff for bitter fruit, for a droit theory.

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They've even done a batch or 2 of Ignite IPA for Hellbender. We'll have

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Hellbender gets their boiler situation sorted out. By the

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way, good news on that front because the boiler is installed and hopefully

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up and running, making beer very soon. So there's this brewery

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brand, this beer brand dad strength, a 2.9%

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IPA and perhaps other under 3% beers coming

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soon, they're gonna brew out of Atlas, take advantage of Atlas' excess

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capacity. There are these, feds

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who travel a lot for work, let's say, like, Department of State,

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USAID, Agency For National Development, Lost Nomad,

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they're brewing out of city state, while city state has some excess

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capacity. And so that model may prevent

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some breweries, from closing, going under.

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I think it also adds to the growth overall if you've got

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more beer in your tanks, even if it's not Atlas

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beer, not city state beer, not DC brow beer, what have you, it's

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still beer coming out. And it's gonna be different, And I think people will be

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interested in it. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good point, Jake. Just because

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a brewery is making a different brand doesn't mean we're not gonna see a

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proliferation of brands. And in fact, the opposite. With more

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brands on the market, we'll see a more varied market. Whether

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that will be a more successful market, that that remains to be

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seen. Right? We're we're gonna watch, and and see the

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future unfold before our eyes in real time.

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But I have to say it's a wonderful thing to have this

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capacity in town whereas 10 years ago,

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so many breweries were struggling for capacity to make

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enough beer to meet market demand. Well said.

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And so we've talked a little bit about brewing and a little bit about people

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buying it. Our interview tonight is with Justin from

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Allied. They're a distributor in Virginia, and so

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they're the middle the middleman, middle person, if you

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will, in terms of getting the beer from point a to point b.

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Brandy, take it away. Thank you for that wonderful

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introduction, Jake. As always, you are the best. I want

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to introduce my very special guest that we've actually been talking about

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having on the show for a while, and we finally made it happen.

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Justin Damaris of Allied Craft Distribution.

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Hi Justin. Welcome. Hey, Brandy. Thanks for having me. Of

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course. So before we get started, I'm gonna ask you what is

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in your can or glass or stein or in

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your mouth. What are you drinking? Yeah. I got a special can of,

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dovetail pills for the for the warm

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weather months. Yeah. Yes. Little, special release

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from them that we got in, on our last drop. Good choice.

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I was there during all that. That was a lovely series of

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events that happened when Dovetail came to visit. DC beer was so foreign.

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Like, flies on we're gonna say honey. Yes. Yeah.

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Because it was very honey. It was beautiful and smooth and delicious.

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Yes. And and and the dovetail folks had a blast as well when they were

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in town. Yeah. I think they did. At least I hope

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so. I had a blast. Yeah. Before I start

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drilling you with questions, sir, could you

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introduce yourself and speak a little about Allied?

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Yeah. Given the spiel that you do, you know? Sure. Yeah. Yeah. So

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I'm Justin Damaris. I moved here from New Hampshire a

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little while ago, and got into the beer world with

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a different distribution company in out of Virginia Beach, but had an

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opportunity with Allied. We're we've been around for actually, we're

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about to hit 6 years in July. So that's

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very exciting. And, yeah, we just like to focus on

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bringing in some breweries that you're you know, they're harder to get around

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here. We love lager breweries, lager focus breweries.

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So we put a lot of focus on that. But we have you know, we

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hit all styles throughout. So I know

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that I've had endless conversations

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with not only friends in the industry, but brewery

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owners, brewers, and I know

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distributors get a extremely bad rap, but I've heard

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great things about Allied. And you have some of the

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best and most adored breweries

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stand up for Allied and say, we love Allied. What

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makes Allied stand out from the other distributors?

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And, I mean, I can give you a couple of examples, Dovetail being

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1. I mean, it was 2 years in the making.

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Just really establishing not only just a relationship, but a friendship,

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and, you know, just helping them out where we can. And,

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yeah, just really, making sure we take care of their beer, put

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it in the right the right places. I mean, Virginia and DC

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has countless amounts of, really good

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places to drink beer, and, a lot of these breweries have heard of

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these spots, and they wanna be in there. And also getting these

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breweries, you know, connected with these accounts as well. Yeah. It's not

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just kinda, you know, signing a brewery and then getting

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it on the shelf and forgetting about it. It's it's really paying

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attention to pull through and making sure that people are

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enjoying it, listening to the feedback, and reporting back to the

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breweries, as best as we can. So we really try to

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make sure we do that. I mean, it seems as though you're doing a great

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job of that because Dovetail and Wheatland Spring sing

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your praises. So what are some of the favorite brands

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that you distribute? Like, you personally, do you get

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popped to go see some people? Or Oh, like, it's, it's

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1 of the most thrilling things for me. Like, I I love this job, and

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I love seeking out these relationships with these breweries. For instance, just

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for 1 that I'm really excited about, actually this week, we're

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launching Fox Farm in, DC and well,

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they've been in DC before, but Virginia especially. So,

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Highside will be doing an event and a couple other places we'll be featuring

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them. But I've been chatting with them and become really good friends over the

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last 4 years, and it's finally come to fruition. So I'm

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very excited for them. Schilling was 1 of our, you

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know, brands that we've been we've been working with Schilling for years.

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And as I'm sure you know, they brew exceptional beer, and they just do

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really well in the DC and Virginia market. Another 1

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that I'm, like, really excited about, they're out of New Jersey. They're called

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Alternate Ending, but they're brewing really good vloggers and

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IPAs and styles across the board. But everything we've gotten

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in from them has just been just killer stuff and starting

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to get really kinda excited about that brand and what they're gonna do

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in Virginia and DC. It seems as though

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Allied is really

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blazing the trail for bringing some of these breweries in,

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and our local establishments are

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benefiting greatly from from that. And obviously,

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so is the drinking public. So thank you for helping aid in

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that and building these relationships because beer brings

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everybody together. That's that's the best part about it. You know? That's the

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best part about it. Which reminds me, I'm also excited for Sojourn.

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I I listened to you guys' podcast with with, Mike Pauley and,

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Jensen. Jensen. Yeah. Super excited for what they're gonna

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do and what they're about. You know, Jensen and I go way back, but Mike

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Pauley, I mean, he was in he was in my wedding. So

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Are you serious? Yeah. Yep. Shit. I didn't know that. That's

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awesome. Yeah. So really excited. I mean, I I

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know that he can brew some really good really good beer,

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so it's exciting that that's right around the corner. Do you sell

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things that aren't beer? I'm assuming you do. Yeah. Yeah.

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So, honestly, cider does real well. We don't have a

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lot of cider brands, but Artifacts Cider Project,

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and North Country Hard Cider, out in New Hampshire.

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So we sell cider. We have a couple meads mead brands,

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like Blackheath out of Virginia, and we also work

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with Superstition and Shram's, we recently started working

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with. So that was a big 1. And, yeah,

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lastly, we work with Crunchy Hydration, which they're out

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of Virginia Beach, and they do, CBD

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waters and herbal like, sparkling CBD and

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herbal sparkling water. Yeah. Those are Which does really well.

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Oh my gosh. The CBD movement is about to

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explode Yeah. Kind of in the same way that the NA movement.

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I know that when we first got on the podcast, you were drinking it NA

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beer, and I respect the hot water,

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the NA movement,

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promise you that. I promise you that. Yeah. It's just what the

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the nonalcoholic stuff that's coming out is it's really good.

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Yeah. I was drinking the Sierra Nevada Trail Pass IPA and just it's

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just been in my fridge, you know, just so I'm not grabbing a beer every

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night. I can have a nonalcoholic or even a crunchy hydration

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is nice. So for our litter listeners

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who maybe aren't super duper beer nerdy and

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understand, you know, beer from the beginning to how it

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gets to you, what specific

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role does a beverage distributor play

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in the process of getting a beer from a

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brewery to in their hands. Yeah. And let's talk

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about Virginia law Sure. Why you need a distributor.

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Yeah. So, the Virginia law, which it really isn't bad

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considering I've heard other states, it's just a nightmare to get

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new breweries in. Basically, the biggest

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hoops you gotta jump through is make making sure these breweries

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t t TTB and get federal, like, cola approval

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for the beers that they wanna send for Virginia.

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And once we have those codes, we turn that into our

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local ABC office, and then we're able to sell it right away.

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But, yeah, there's no so, interesting fact,

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in Virginia, there's there is, like, a

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franchise designation form that these breweries have to sign,

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and, technically, it grants us their rights for a

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lifetime, which is a scary thing for these breweries. But we

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give an already signed release letter, to each and

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every brewery so that they can just keep that in their back pocket. If they

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were to ever be unhappy, they're not locked in with us. And I

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think that is the exact

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sentence that I wanted you to say Oh, wow. Because

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because all of the other companies, you do

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sign your your life away. I mean, that's your brewery. You probably put your heart

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and soul and all of your money into it, and you sign with somebody, and

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it doesn't work out well for you because either they don't take care of your

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products, they don't take care of you or your customers.

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And, that is exactly what makes you stand

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apart from the other from the other distributors. And that's

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exactly it. And I'm glad that you said that because I was gonna say it.

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Yeah. No. It, it's it's sad. There's been some horror

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stories with some breweries. And as soon as we kinda lay that on

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the table, it's almost like you can hear them take a huge

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sigh of relief and be like, alright. We're game. You know? Let's

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go. Do you know what I find endearing about all of this and learning

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about this and reaching out to Wheatland Spring and

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and talking to the dovetail guys,

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they speak so highly of you because this is so

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refreshing, and it it's it's really refreshing to the

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DC beer community because we are

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entrenched Yeah. And and our our

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our local beer news

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and drama and goings on

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and hearing hearing

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for probably the first time ever, breweries that we

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love really talk highly of

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their distributor is is unheard of.

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Genuinely think that you are the

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the small brewery craft distributor

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for the small craft brewery. You know, you don't just advertise

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it. You you are. And I think that will take Allied

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a long way. And as long as you guys keep up with this

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philosophy and way of doing things and building relationships and

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bringing the DMV wonderful beer, then

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we will we will continue to support you for sure.

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Thank you. Thank you so much. Yeah. Thank you, Justin, for coming on

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the show. Is there anything else you'd like to to finish with? What's your

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favorite style of beer, sir? Oh, 0, gosh. I I would

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say I would say a Czech pills or a a northern style

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German pills. Yeah. Alright. But Pilsner Pilsner

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altogether. Pils. Pils. Pils. Pils. Pils. Pils. It's like my Yeah.

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My my Elsoprino dynasty hat, Pilsner on the back. Oh,

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that's sweet. Oh. No. It's a great it's a great hat. That is amazing.

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Talk to Fabio about that. Yes. Okay. Yeah. I'll

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have to. Thank you, Justin, for coming up for coming on,

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and, I'm sure everyone all the beer nerds will now

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know about Allied and follow where Allied, has

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clients and see where they can get local Allied

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distributed beer. Thanks for having me. It was an honor to be on. Thank

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you. Cheers. Cheers.

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Thank you, Brandy. Thank you, Justin and Allied. Much

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appreciated. We don't do a lot of, like, distributor talk on

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here, but I think that was good chat. Informative.

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Alright. We just survived, like, 6 actually,

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more like 10 anniversaries. City State's got 1 coming up

464
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too this weekend. You should check them

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out. Mhmm. Stein, what else are you getting into?

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Yeah. We're, wishing City State a wonderful

467
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birthday. We know we've got some goings on at

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Hellbender. Further down the pike in

469
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July, I'm super excited to have

470
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a Wayfinder beer. You know, it's really interesting.

471
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We wrote about Wayfinder, Wayfinder beer

472
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coming out of Portland, Oregon. And I I said I

473
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was particularly fond of Secret Secret, their dark Czech style

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lager. So I wrote those words in March and

475
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then sure enough, Jake, in April,

476
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who wins a silver medal for Secret Secret in international

477
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dark lager at the World Beer Cup?

478
00:30:04.054 --> 00:30:07.450
Was it was it Wayfinder? It was Wayfinder. Oh.

479
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And full disclosure, I was not judging the World Beer Cup

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Awards. So there's a there's a super exciting slate both

481
00:30:15.805 --> 00:30:19.345
in town. I'm excited, for local favorites city state,

482
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Hellbender, our friends at Atlas, and Blue Jacket all over making

483
00:30:23.630 --> 00:30:26.430
good beer. But then we're gonna have a bunch of beer coming from out of

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town. In addition to Wayfinder, we're also gonna see Fox Farm

485
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coming from Connecticut, and we're gonna see some really interesting

486
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stuff. Some of the more, classic,

487
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you know, German lagers and easy drinking styles,

488
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but then we're also gonna see, I believe some

489
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spontaneous beers from them at Sovereign.

490
00:30:50.305 --> 00:30:53.985
Yeah. And yeah. Exactly. And so Sovereign, July

491
00:30:53.985 --> 00:30:57.810
18th, we're gonna see Cool Ship spontaneous beers

492
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from Fox Farm. So it's exciting. There's a

493
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lot coming down the pike. My understanding is that Fox Farm

494
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is a situation similar to Wayfinder, where we will

495
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see somewhat routine drops.

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00:31:13.020 --> 00:31:16.539
Wayfinder, Dovetail, Fox Farm coming in to

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both DC and North Virginia. That's a great thing.

498
00:31:20.295 --> 00:31:24.135
Means everyone needs to step their games up because those are

499
00:31:24.135 --> 00:31:27.860
3 very, very good breweries. Yeah. So,

500
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Jake, I should clarify. Wayfinder is gonna be at Shelter

501
00:31:31.620 --> 00:31:35.299
on Wednesday, July 10th. So it'll be before our next

502
00:31:35.299 --> 00:31:38.914
podcast. But to your point, we hope to see

503
00:31:39.054 --> 00:31:42.735
both Wayfinder and Fox Farm rotating cycling in and out of the

504
00:31:42.735 --> 00:31:46.470
district, as kegs are kicked. You know, certainly

505
00:31:46.470 --> 00:31:49.770
seeing more beer on draft is a wonderful thing.

506
00:31:50.390 --> 00:31:54.045
We know during the pandemic, keg sales died. They just

507
00:31:54.045 --> 00:31:57.725
straight up we couldn't drink beer over the bar by mayoral

508
00:31:57.725 --> 00:32:01.540
order, as as was the thing to do with public safety. But

509
00:32:01.540 --> 00:32:04.920
it's great now because there's a whole bunch of brands of beer

510
00:32:05.140 --> 00:32:08.820
that breweries might not even put in cans or bottles, but we're

511
00:32:08.820 --> 00:32:11.345
gonna see them in keg, places like Shelter,

512
00:32:12.445 --> 00:32:15.965
the Sovereign, Church Key, and then

513
00:32:15.965 --> 00:32:19.345
wonderful, weird, big old barrel aged stouts at Hellbender.

514
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:23.940
To quote my friend, Julie from the brew shop, every season

515
00:32:24.320 --> 00:32:27.620
is stout season. Alright, guys. So

516
00:32:28.305 --> 00:32:31.985
July, everyone's taking vacations and chilling because it's hot

517
00:32:31.985 --> 00:32:35.790
as shit. But this month, if you

518
00:32:35.790 --> 00:32:39.330
come to the beer share, I want you to bring some brown beer.

519
00:32:39.470 --> 00:32:42.910
Bring some brown ales for your girl. I know it's July, but it's my birthday

520
00:32:42.910 --> 00:32:46.425
month, so do it. When is the beer share, you're asking? Well,

521
00:32:46.645 --> 00:32:50.345
our July beer share is on Sunday, July 21st,

522
00:32:50.485 --> 00:32:53.465
at Wright Proper Brooklyn. So we'll be hanging out with Brie,

523
00:32:53.980 --> 00:32:57.280
and maybe Thor will show up, who knows, and maybe,

524
00:32:58.380 --> 00:33:01.840
maybe Josh will be there, because if he

525
00:33:02.335 --> 00:33:06.175
is gonna be rocking out some ripe proper, I'd love

526
00:33:06.175 --> 00:33:09.315
to have a Black Narrows ripe proper DC beer

527
00:33:09.990 --> 00:33:13.750
trifecta and party. What do you what do you think? All

528
00:33:13.750 --> 00:33:17.510
you gotta do is crank the AC. The temperature outside doesn't matter.

529
00:33:17.750 --> 00:33:21.415
You sit down for 10 minutes, 65 degrees, and all

530
00:33:21.415 --> 00:33:24.935
then all of a sudden, that that 12% hellbender, red

531
00:33:24.935 --> 00:33:28.235
bear rampage Yep. It become Stout.

532
00:33:28.490 --> 00:33:31.150
Stout weather inside AC cranking.

533
00:33:33.370 --> 00:33:36.970
Alright, all. On that note, we will see you out there.

534
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Everybody stay cool. Tip big. We're at dcbeer

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Come see us. As Brandy mentioned, the bottle share is is the

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21st. Very excited to see you there. I

541
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have a brewer who promised he would show up. Come see

542
00:34:08.460 --> 00:34:11.495
who the mystery brewer is at our next bottle share.

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