Colin (00:00:00):
hi welcome to sober banter i'm half of your host colin and i am the other half

Colin (00:00:06):
rachel and this is sober banter og format it's our first one without any guests so

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just as awkward as an opening and setup like we did back in october much faster

Colin (00:00:22):
yeah how has it been one-on-one talking

Rachel (00:00:26):
It's been great.

Rachel (00:00:27):
No,

Rachel (00:00:27):
it's really hard because it's been so fortunate that I've had all these organic interactions.

Rachel (00:00:35):
A lot of it on Substack.

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The second would be Instagram.

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And anyone who basically messages, I like your show.

Rachel (00:00:43):
I like what I see.

Rachel (00:00:44):
I would love to be a guest.

Rachel (00:00:45):
And I'm just...

Rachel (00:00:47):
so honored, so privileged, like feel so lucky that someone wants to come banter with us.

Rachel (00:00:53):
And it's so fulfilling,

Rachel (00:00:55):
but the after of the editing and putting everything together,

Rachel (00:00:58):
setting up,

Rachel (00:00:59):
even I get nervous before the interview,

Rachel (00:01:05):
you know,

Rachel (00:01:05):
and I'm trying,

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and there's a lot more prep when there's interview and it's just banter between you

Rachel (00:01:09):
and I,

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I'm like,

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I fuck up on her.

Rachel (00:01:12):
Like it's, it's whatever.

Rachel (00:01:15):
Like it's very,

Rachel (00:01:17):
organic and i've also received you know i have the comments that'll get stuck in my head like

Rachel (00:01:23):
This host really cares about herself.

Rachel (00:01:25):
She doesn't let the guests talk.

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And I'm like, I do need to work on it.

Rachel (00:01:28):
I actually agree with the commenter.

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Trust me.

Rachel (00:01:31):
I edit, I hear it.

Rachel (00:01:33):
And there's nothing worse than cringing seven times, rewinding to make sure you got the cut.

Rachel (00:01:37):
Right.

Rachel (00:01:38):
As you're just constantly messing up and you're talking.

Rachel (00:01:41):
Now I've started recording separate tracks because that way I can make myself on

Rachel (00:01:46):
the edit at least.

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And

Rachel (00:01:49):
Doing interviews, it's just not easy.

Rachel (00:01:51):
We've been fortunate that every single person we've interviewed is so sweet.

Rachel (00:01:55):
They understand we're new.

Rachel (00:01:57):
They understand we're not professionals.

Rachel (00:01:59):
They're just, usually most of the time, they're just happy to banter with us.

Colin (00:02:03):
Drunk self would not want your voice to be muted.

Colin (00:02:06):
You would always be like, you need to hear my thoughts now.

Colin (00:02:11):
Let me tell you about my situation growing up.

Rachel (00:02:15):
And it's hard.

Rachel (00:02:20):
It's rewarding.

Rachel (00:02:21):
It's really rewarding.

Rachel (00:02:22):
Again, there's not one person we wish we had more time that we don't want the interview to end.

Rachel (00:02:27):
A lot of times we're going over.

Rachel (00:02:29):
You had talked to me about maybe we just go back to this OG format because when it's him and I,

Rachel (00:02:37):
We don't have to make sure the call is going to go through.

Rachel (00:02:39):
We don't have to make sure that their mic is going to sound okay or I'm not having

Rachel (00:02:42):
to go fix audio because...

Colin (00:02:44):
Although I will have to say when we do guests on,

Colin (00:02:47):
I'm always surprised of how we end up talking for an hour or two.

Colin (00:02:52):
And I'm like, I don't know what we're going to talk about.

Colin (00:02:53):
And then just topics form naturally about sobriety or what they're going through,

Colin (00:03:00):
how they did it,

Colin (00:03:01):
what's working for them,

Colin (00:03:02):
what...

Rachel (00:03:03):
hasn't worked for them we've also talked about like super random things like just

Rachel (00:03:09):
whatever's happened in our life that correlates and also with interviews it's we

Rachel (00:03:16):
don't always have a sitter for evan who's our five-year-old and he's made a few

Rachel (00:03:21):
appearances he's made a few appearances and when it's colin and i you know we can

Colin (00:03:26):
start and stop whenever why is it that this cat comes around when we hit record

Rachel (00:03:32):
Well, when you're not here, he just sits in that chair and pretends to be you.

Rachel (00:03:35):
The other thing is I'm like trying to read about improving my interview,

Rachel (00:03:39):
which also leads to the podcast,

Rachel (00:03:40):
which apparently if you are a good structured podcast,

Rachel (00:03:44):
your intro should be

Rachel (00:03:47):
Name, show, and then like an explanation about what our show is, which we never do anymore.

Rachel (00:03:53):
So maybe this is a great time to be like, hey, Colin, what are we doing here?

Rachel (00:03:58):
What is sober banter?

Rachel (00:03:59):
Other than like the literal banter of being sober.

Colin (00:04:04):
Talking about going through life and seeing things through a sober perspective.

Rachel (00:04:13):
And I hate the word subscribe.

Rachel (00:04:14):
I hate...

Rachel (00:04:16):
Well, I shouldn't say hate.

Rachel (00:04:17):
I don't like using the word hate in sobriety.

Rachel (00:04:19):
It's there are not very many things I hate because if I do.

Rachel (00:04:23):
Fourth step is needed and or step whatever.

Colin (00:04:27):
I hate the Luka Doncic's trade.

Rachel (00:04:29):
I do hate that.

Rachel (00:04:30):
Give me Luka back.

Rachel (00:04:31):
What's surprising is I've been looking at Lakers Luka shirts.

Colin (00:04:34):
He was sober when he made that trade.

Colin (00:04:36):
Usually it's when people are effed up or drunk or high when they do really stupid things.

Colin (00:04:42):
But.

Colin (00:04:43):
Nico Harrison was probably 100% sober.

Rachel (00:04:47):
I don't want to think about that right now.

Colin (00:04:49):
I'm in a good... Yeah, there's a 12 step for that.

Rachel (00:04:51):
Yeah, I'm really mad at basketball, but I have been shopping for Luca shirts.

Colin (00:04:55):
I'll take a Luca Lakers shirt.

Rachel (00:04:58):
But then all the ones I like that are the soft material...

Rachel (00:05:02):
And I'm like, I don't know that I want to go so far as just a Laker shirt.

Rachel (00:05:05):
I want a Luca shirt.

Colin (00:05:07):
Yeah.

Rachel (00:05:07):
A lot's gone on in the last few weeks.

Rachel (00:05:10):
And we should probably say also happy Valentine's Day because I think this is the

Rachel (00:05:14):
one I want to put out tomorrow.

Colin (00:05:15):
But you're in pink.

Rachel (00:05:16):
No, I just went to the doctor today.

Rachel (00:05:20):
And it's been it's been a really rough couple of weeks.

Rachel (00:05:22):
Medically wise, first off, the flu went through our house.

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I wanted something big and cozy.

Rachel (00:05:29):
And my son called me fat yesterday.

Rachel (00:05:31):
And he's like, mommy, you're fatter than daddy.

Rachel (00:05:33):
And I was like, thanks.

Colin (00:05:35):
Those exact words.

Rachel (00:05:37):
Yes.

Colin (00:05:38):
Okay.

Rachel (00:05:39):
Yes.

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That's why it hurt.

Colin (00:05:40):
Did he apologize?

Rachel (00:05:43):
I mean, he's not wrong.

Rachel (00:05:44):
You just don't say that.

Rachel (00:05:45):
I don't need to hear that.

Rachel (00:05:47):
He also told us a couple days ago that he could only love one of us.

Rachel (00:05:51):
So one day is your day.

Rachel (00:05:52):
One day is my day.

Colin (00:05:53):
Yeah.

Colin (00:05:54):
He's like preparing for divorced parents.

Rachel (00:05:56):
Evan, you don't say that.

Colin (00:05:58):
He also said the F word in class in kindergarten.

Rachel (00:06:01):
He's like, what the fuck?

Colin (00:06:03):
Because one else uses it around him or plays rap music that she forgets the lyrics to.

Rachel (00:06:09):
He loves all the Sonic soundtracks.

Rachel (00:06:12):
And so he'll be like the play Run It by Wiz Khalifa and Kid Cudi and Da Talisa.

Rachel (00:06:21):
Eight artists is appropriate for a five-year-old.

Rachel (00:06:25):
what's the kid cuddy not the pursuit of happiness the other one oh day and night

Rachel (00:06:30):
day and night yeah so anyways probably not kid appropriate and then i'm like oh

Rachel (00:06:34):
yeah i remember that song we couldn't think of the name it's i spy and we put that

Rachel (00:06:38):
on my son loves that song and everything about that song in that song even the

Rachel (00:06:44):
clean version not for a five-year-old yeah but he loves it and i love it it opens

Colin (00:06:50):
up with man fuck these kids

Colin (00:06:53):
So I'm just like, do you not remember anything about this song?

Rachel (00:06:56):
Oh, talk about getting a girl that they don't even like.

Colin (00:07:00):
They're going to send her home with her throat throbbing.

Rachel (00:07:03):
Yeah, he chokes her.

Rachel (00:07:04):
And they get a little rough in bed, you know, and he's like, go with and get throbbing.

Colin (00:07:08):
No, he chokes her with his hands, though.

Rachel (00:07:10):
What do you mean?

Colin (00:07:11):
Why would someone's throat be throbbing after a sexual attack?

Rachel (00:07:15):
Oh, my God.

Colin (00:07:16):
Yeah, you don't even know.

Colin (00:07:19):
That's what you're introducing to our five-year-old.

Rachel (00:07:22):
I don't know which one's worse.

Rachel (00:07:24):
Like, I don't know the way I took it.

Rachel (00:07:26):
It's like, this is my Kobe LeBron moment again.

Colin (00:07:30):
So you were a fan of that song,

Colin (00:07:32):
but you're like,

Colin (00:07:33):
but there's a little bit of domestic violence to it.

Colin (00:07:36):
So, but it's okay.

Colin (00:07:37):
I can get past it.

Colin (00:07:38):
So now you're realizing it's not a great beat.

Colin (00:07:40):
It's not domestic violence.

Colin (00:07:41):
It's actually...

Colin (00:07:43):
Different sexual.

Rachel (00:07:44):
I also didn't know that the Not Like Us was about Drake.

Rachel (00:07:48):
I just like the beat.

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And I've only heard the main chorus until the Super Bowl.

Rachel (00:07:53):
And I love that song even more now.

Rachel (00:07:55):
There are so many levels to that song.

Rachel (00:07:57):
I love it.

Rachel (00:07:58):
I love it.

Rachel (00:07:59):
And you know he did a song with Taylor Swift, right?

Rachel (00:08:01):
So I'm already a fan.

Colin (00:08:02):
Yeah, but his whole...

Rachel (00:08:04):
bit is all his music's very very artist yeah yeah he's like taylor swift that's why

Rachel (00:08:10):
they did the artist the one with the dollar bill in the tub of on reputation you

Rachel (00:08:15):
know look what you made me do is the song he did with her yeah anyways so i've been

Rachel (00:08:20):
a fan of his for a while and i know a lot of the swifties were probably happy

Rachel (00:08:24):
because again he's very deep

Rachel (00:08:27):
The way he looks at that camera.

Rachel (00:08:29):
Say Drake.

Rachel (00:08:30):
He was so.

Rachel (00:08:31):
I want that level of confidence.

Rachel (00:08:33):
That's my goal.

Rachel (00:08:34):
I want to be that confident.

Rachel (00:08:36):
He looks so happy.

Rachel (00:08:38):
Say Drake.

Colin (00:08:39):
Yeah.

Colin (00:08:41):
And the A minor.

Rachel (00:08:43):
That's a music hit.

Rachel (00:08:44):
That's a. Obviously a play on words for it's A minor.

Rachel (00:08:48):
But.

Colin (00:08:50):
oh my god and his big letter a for the a minor like white household suburban mom

Rachel (00:08:58):
swifty break down the he's like hide your little sister like oh my god that's funny

Rachel (00:09:04):
It's amazing.

Rachel (00:09:05):
Like, there is so much depth to that.

Rachel (00:09:08):
I've watched the Super Bowl halftime now.

Rachel (00:09:11):
So many.

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And then his little peekaboo intro, too.

Rachel (00:09:13):
You can't.

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The first time you see it, you don't understand it.

Rachel (00:09:17):
And then you watch it.

Rachel (00:09:18):
It's like it hits you on different levels over and over.

Rachel (00:09:21):
And that is what a good artist.

Rachel (00:09:23):
Probably 50.

Rachel (00:09:25):
okay one time no I didn't see it in full 50 times but I've seen transitions and

Rachel (00:09:31):
then the Serena Williams like she looks amazing she's perfect TikTok segments I do

Rachel (00:09:37):
my research sometimes like when I get interested in a topic and love it so how's

Rachel (00:09:43):
your family been ups and downs

Colin (00:09:47):
The good thing about sobriety is that when something happens unexpected,

Colin (00:09:56):
you're able to go where you're needed and be helpful in any capacity.

Colin (00:10:03):
Because my mom, who's 70, was in her attic

Colin (00:10:08):
When I've told this story, a lot of people go, what is a seven-year-old doing in their attic?

Colin (00:10:13):
But it's not one of the scary attics where you pull down from the ceiling and you

Colin (00:10:17):
go up a ladder.

Colin (00:10:18):
It's a walk-in attic on the second story.

Rachel (00:10:21):
Still decently scary.

Colin (00:10:23):
yeah but it it's not as scary because it could have been converted into a room and

Colin (00:10:28):
never was it just leads into the attic but there's still you have to if you're

Rachel (00:10:32):
going to walk deep into it you're essentially walking on like a balance board on

Colin (00:10:35):
some of the areas it's got floorboards all throughout until it doesn't she was

Colin (00:10:40):
putting stuff away and she went to the very edge putting something away and she

Colin (00:10:45):
took a step thinking there was one more floorboard

Colin (00:10:49):
And then she was on the living room floor and called the paramedics.

Colin (00:10:55):
My mom had broke 10 ribs,

Colin (00:10:58):
her front and back pelvis,

Colin (00:11:00):
and cracked her C2 and has been in the hospital.

Colin (00:11:04):
Just got back.

Colin (00:11:06):
This happened on a Monday like three or four weeks ago.

Rachel (00:11:10):
And thankfully you were working from home.

Rachel (00:11:12):
working from home that day and the first thing i said to you is he told me he had a

Rachel (00:11:17):
work meeting and i'm out in the living room with evan and i hear i love you and did

Rachel (00:11:23):
he just tell his co-worker i love you and then i love all my who's asked am i gonna

Rachel (00:11:27):
have to beat like who who was he saying i love you to on a work meeting excuse me

Rachel (00:11:32):
did i just hear you say i love you and he's distraught almost tears coming down his

Rachel (00:11:37):
eyes i think that's when it was hitting what happened in the meeting

Colin (00:11:41):
Because my mom had called me on a phone.

Colin (00:11:43):
And I didn't know that.

Colin (00:11:45):
Called 911 on another phone.

Rachel (00:11:47):
And so I don't really know what's happening.

Rachel (00:11:48):
All I see him is like gathering.

Rachel (00:11:51):
I need to go to the hospital.

Rachel (00:11:52):
And he's trying to get himself together.

Rachel (00:11:56):
I'd offered to drive, but he just needed to get his thoughts together.

Rachel (00:11:59):
And it was scary.

Colin (00:12:02):
But that's, I think the thing when you're not cloudy with drugs and alcohol is that

Colin (00:12:09):
You're able to have clear thoughts and able to move to action and get things done.

Colin (00:12:15):
The only thing I can compare it to, but it was different because it was a death thing.

Colin (00:12:19):
I remember when my grandma died,

Colin (00:12:22):
the first thing I wanted to do is,

Colin (00:12:23):
okay,

Colin (00:12:23):
well,

Colin (00:12:23):
let's get a bottle of Jameson and let's call the drug dealer.

Rachel (00:12:26):
We did.

Colin (00:12:27):
And that's what we did to cope.

Colin (00:12:29):
It wasn't really healthy coping.

Colin (00:12:31):
It was really just an excuse to just get what we wanted.

Rachel (00:12:33):
Not only that.

Rachel (00:12:34):
But after the funeral, we had to drive to the reception after with your mom at Jasper's.

Rachel (00:12:39):
We stopped and got shots of Jameson at King's X. Remember?

Rachel (00:12:45):
We deviated.

Rachel (00:12:45):
And it's like, we couldn't even handle where, like, we just did a burial...

Rachel (00:12:49):
deserve to stop and because we had to be quick we're just gonna do like four

Rachel (00:12:53):
doubles yeah to go before we had evan by the way and in our head well it's kind of

Colin (00:12:58):
on the way they're technically both west of where we are but it's not really on the

Colin (00:13:03):
way and if we were still drinking and my mom had gone to the hospital i would

Colin (00:13:08):
probably be upset because that means i would have been burdened with all these

Colin (00:13:12):
responsibilities that

Colin (00:13:14):
Be like,

Colin (00:13:14):
well,

Colin (00:13:15):
it's not my responsibility to take care of this or get this or do this or help with this.

Colin (00:13:21):
You know, these are your problems.

Colin (00:13:23):
And I'm sorry you fell through the ceiling, but you fell through.

Colin (00:13:26):
I didn't fall through the ceiling.

Colin (00:13:28):
That's a your problem.

Colin (00:13:29):
That's a you thing where...

Colin (00:13:31):
now it's okay let's get everyone together let's try to help let's you know get my

Colin (00:13:36):
mom's partner help since you know she can't be alone at night so it's like we need

Colin (00:13:42):
to find someone that will stay the night with her we need to do this and that and

Colin (00:13:47):
And the whole process,

Colin (00:13:49):
other than when it first happened,

Colin (00:13:51):
I was kind of in tears just because it hit me and I had to gather all my thoughts.

Colin (00:13:56):
And I just needed to kind of get past that emotional stage of it.

Colin (00:14:01):
And once I did, everything else just kind of came easy.

Colin (00:14:04):
And it was just like, all right, what do we got to get done?

Colin (00:14:06):
It's this, this, this, this.

Colin (00:14:08):
And let's do it.

Colin (00:14:09):
And I was never really, I'm still not scared or nervous about any of it.

Colin (00:14:15):
I know it's going to get handled.

Colin (00:14:16):
I know it'll be done.

Colin (00:14:17):
And my mom's back home and she goes to a

Colin (00:14:21):
outpatient service where like two, three times a week to do physical activity.

Colin (00:14:28):
The good news is that she's in really great shape.

Colin (00:14:31):
My mom swims competitively and has world records for her age in swimming.

Colin (00:14:38):
So she's actually ahead of where she should be just because of what great shape

Colin (00:14:42):
she's in and her lung strength and everything.

Colin (00:14:44):
So, you know,

Colin (00:14:47):
She's not your normal 70 year old that fell through the ceiling.

Rachel (00:14:52):
And when we were drinking, I think drama was just more attractive to.

Rachel (00:14:56):
It was a reason to drink.

Colin (00:14:58):
I will say this and told Rachel this because I know she'll probably have different

Colin (00:15:03):
thoughts on it than I will.

Colin (00:15:05):
But this is where it comes to where it just depends how you just take things.

Colin (00:15:09):
I'm a pretty laid back and I don't care.

Colin (00:15:12):
I know my mom meant nothing by it and she wasn't trying to like trigger me and it

Colin (00:15:18):
didn't trigger me.

Colin (00:15:19):
But I know when I was over at her house and I was talking to her and she knows I'm sober.

Colin (00:15:24):
She goes, Colin, you won't believe.

Colin (00:15:26):
When I got home and I had the first sip of that Coors original, it was so good.

Colin (00:15:33):
and i'm just like oh awesome cool mom i don't think anything of it it doesn't

Colin (00:15:37):
bother me but in the back of my head later i thought she knows your son's an

Colin (00:15:41):
alcoholic right but at the same time that's also just my mom so i'm like yeah that

Colin (00:15:47):
tracks that's something she would say or do just be like supposed to be drinking on

Rachel (00:15:51):
that medication

Colin (00:15:52):
Tracks.

Colin (00:15:53):
Maybe she just had... Who knows?

Rachel (00:15:55):
I'm not... I mean, I knew she was going to drink as soon as she got home.

Colin (00:15:58):
I knew that was going to happen.

Colin (00:15:59):
She's like, that Coors original tasted good.

Rachel (00:16:01):
She asked you to bring her Coors in the hospital.

Colin (00:16:03):
Yeah.

Colin (00:16:05):
I told her no, and she's like, yeah, you're probably right.

Rachel (00:16:09):
We'll let that just settle.

Rachel (00:16:11):
Yeah.

Colin (00:16:12):
If you broke 10 ribs and you're in the hospital,

Colin (00:16:15):
I mean...

Rachel (00:16:15):
I talked about this yesterday,

Rachel (00:16:18):
so I did a girl's banter,

Rachel (00:16:19):
and I think that might be...

Rachel (00:16:22):
My idea moving forward is with guests.

Rachel (00:16:26):
So it's pretty known that I do most of the stuff with the podcast.

Rachel (00:16:33):
I mean, without you, it wouldn't be fun bantering alone.

Rachel (00:16:38):
That's called going insane.

Rachel (00:16:40):
I might just have like a spinoff of banter with friends or something.

Rachel (00:16:46):
Sober banter with friends where...

Rachel (00:16:48):
people that come on the show, it'll be just me.

Rachel (00:16:51):
And that can be during when he's at work because he works a full-time job.

Rachel (00:16:55):
So maybe we can still have those interviews, but it'll be me producing it.

Rachel (00:17:02):
That way I'm not having to ask you about schedules unless it's a special occasion.

Rachel (00:17:05):
If you already have something scheduled with us,

Rachel (00:17:08):
which we have February booked,

Rachel (00:17:10):
those are going to be with Colin and I.

Rachel (00:17:13):
But outside of that,

Rachel (00:17:16):
This is kind of nice just having the banter between us.

Rachel (00:17:18):
And I think that's what sober banter was built on.

Colin (00:17:21):
The foundation.

Rachel (00:17:22):
Yeah.

Rachel (00:17:23):
And if you can be there,

Rachel (00:17:24):
like if it comes to a point where I have an interview scheduled and Colin's like,

Rachel (00:17:28):
I'll join in.

Rachel (00:17:29):
Obviously he will.

Rachel (00:17:30):
But I think it's probably a good idea if I'm going to keep doing the interviews

Rachel (00:17:36):
because I don't really want to say no.

Rachel (00:17:37):
I might just say, hey, interviews are with Rachel and

Rachel (00:17:41):
If possible, Colin, but it'll be, I'm going to run that schedule on my own.

Colin (00:17:47):
I'll be TBD.

Rachel (00:17:48):
Like during the week, because that's when most people kind of want to record.

Colin (00:17:54):
How was your sober Vegas?

Colin (00:17:57):
We went to Vegas.

Rachel (00:17:59):
Well, if we're going to get deep, honest, right before Vegas, my psychiatrist fired me.

Colin (00:18:04):
I thought that was right after when we got back.

Rachel (00:18:08):
Oh, it was after we got it.

Colin (00:18:09):
Yeah.

Rachel (00:18:10):
I mean,

Rachel (00:18:10):
technically,

Rachel (00:18:11):
the problem started the week before Vegas,

Rachel (00:18:14):
and I was having big energy focus fatigue issues that relates to my autoimmune,

Rachel (00:18:22):
and he's just not an autoimmune psych.

Rachel (00:18:26):
It's really hard.

Rachel (00:18:27):
There is having so many doctors is because they all intertwine with each other.

Rachel (00:18:38):
It's just difficult because with my rheumatologist, it's a lot of trial and error.

Rachel (00:18:43):
And they redid my lupus panel today.

Rachel (00:18:47):
And then I have to go get two biopsies next week.

Rachel (00:18:50):
So I felt like shit in Vegas, but I'm starting stopping two medications today.

Rachel (00:18:57):
And it sucks because it's like a weak transition.

Rachel (00:19:01):
And there are antibiotics or biologics.

Rachel (00:19:05):
So it's just a lot.

Rachel (00:19:07):
And my blood work keeps coming back inflamed.

Rachel (00:19:10):
And I keep having high inflammation.

Rachel (00:19:13):
Oh, yeah.

Rachel (00:19:13):
So transition to that.

Rachel (00:19:17):
I'm trying to take in control what I can take in control, right?

Rachel (00:19:20):
So not only I signed up for...

Rachel (00:19:23):
outpatient therapy to try and help with inflammation in my wrists my neck and my

Rachel (00:19:28):
feet it makes it hard to work out I used to like going walking running yoga and

Rachel (00:19:34):
then my hands and legs I would go numb to the point I can't feel them and I'd have

Rachel (00:19:39):
tingling so it's really dangerous in the middle of class I would not be able to

Rachel (00:19:42):
feel my hand not normal right it's part of Sjogren's lupus whatever and

Rachel (00:19:52):
Things have just slowly gone down.

Rachel (00:19:54):
And thankfully, that was another layer of being sober.

Rachel (00:20:02):
We were able to figure out with your mom because Colin is also the power of attorney.

Rachel (00:20:06):
So when she had surgery,

Rachel (00:20:08):
he had to be there because he is in charge of if something were to happen or they

Rachel (00:20:12):
needed to get consent.

Colin (00:20:13):
In case I need to pull the plug.

Rachel (00:20:14):
No.

Rachel (00:20:15):
Yeah.

Colin (00:20:16):
We had that talk.

Colin (00:20:17):
Mom, you're not going to die.

Colin (00:20:18):
And she's like, but I don't want to be a vegetable.

Colin (00:20:21):
Okay.

Colin (00:20:22):
It's going to go fine.

Rachel (00:20:24):
I wasn't worried about Lintback.

Colin (00:20:25):
Pull the plug on you, too.

Rachel (00:20:27):
What?

Colin (00:20:28):
Go ahead, Sarah.

Rachel (00:20:29):
Anyways, so and then I get the same PT as his mom and she's like, where'd you go?

Rachel (00:20:34):
Because maybe we could go together.

Colin (00:20:35):
PT buddies.

Rachel (00:20:37):
I feel really old now.

Rachel (00:20:39):
And I'm just thinking,

Rachel (00:20:39):
you know,

Rachel (00:20:40):
because I'd asked about chiropractor and my doctor really went against the

Rachel (00:20:44):
chiropractor only because when you're having inflammation and you're having a high CRP.

(00:20:51):
Mm hmm.

Rachel (00:20:53):
You just don't want anything to get overly hurt.

Rachel (00:20:56):
And I think physical therapy is so much easier on the body and it's actually

Rachel (00:21:01):
covered by insurance versus chiropractor.

Rachel (00:21:03):
I think it's just like a discount of some sort.

Colin (00:21:07):
Chiropractors aren't technically real doctors.

Rachel (00:21:10):
That's what he said.

Rachel (00:21:10):
Technically they go get licensure,

Rachel (00:21:13):
but it's not like physical therapy is what he had recommended.

Rachel (00:21:16):
So I signed up for that.

Rachel (00:21:18):
I also signed up in half.

Rachel (00:21:22):
due to nate bargetsy talking about it but i got a whoop okay so wait what when did

Rachel (00:21:32):
that happen so i ordered a trial before you buy it yes okay good hold on hold on

Rachel (00:21:41):
and it is covered by amazon thing more it's not amazon fsa but i also emailed them

Rachel (00:21:47):
because i said i will review this on the podcast

Rachel (00:21:51):
And if it helps with my autoimmune.

Colin (00:21:54):
How would it keep track of your steps?

Rachel (00:21:57):
But you don't take it off with the Apple Watch.

Rachel (00:21:59):
You have to take it off to charge it, right?

Rachel (00:22:01):
This also has far more details into.

Colin (00:22:04):
But how does it help you?

Rachel (00:22:06):
So it gives me reports on where is my phone?

Rachel (00:22:10):
So I just want to tell you because I haven't told you this even off air and I wanted to.

Rachel (00:22:15):
Hold on.

Colin (00:22:15):
Does it tell you you sleep in?

Rachel (00:22:18):
So it does,

Rachel (00:22:19):
it tracks when you sleep,

Rachel (00:22:20):
it tracks how you meditate,

Rachel (00:22:21):
it tracks,

Rachel (00:22:21):
so it's supposed to be to help build how you go about your recovery.

Rachel (00:22:27):
It asked me if I was,

Rachel (00:22:30):
yesterday it said your stress level was so high,

Rachel (00:22:32):
it asked me if I was doing an intensive basketball workout.

Rachel (00:22:37):
Like it showed someone dunking on the hoops because my stress level was so high.

Colin (00:22:42):
From the leukotripe?

Colin (00:22:44):
That's why the basketball.

Rachel (00:22:45):
I had the highest stress and they were like, are you training for a marathon?

Colin (00:22:49):
Does it ask you condescending questions like the Apple Watch?

Rachel (00:22:52):
No, it's more of just a report.

Rachel (00:22:54):
But anyways, so this might be an insight to, hey, I got to get my stress down.

Rachel (00:22:58):
Oh, I think Evan's on.

Rachel (00:23:00):
Pause.

Rachel (00:23:02):
Hi.

Rachel (00:23:03):
Yeah.

Rachel (00:23:04):
Hi, Evan.

Rachel (00:23:04):
We're going to meet you today.

(00:23:07):
Happy Valentine's Day.

Rachel (00:23:09):
So tomorrow at school, you're going to get and give valentines from everybody.

(00:23:14):
Yeah, and even the Spongebob.

Rachel (00:23:18):
Yeah,

Rachel (00:23:18):
we're going to do the Spongebob with the wristbands,

Rachel (00:23:20):
and I'm going to sign your name on it so everyone knows.

(00:23:22):
Yeah, and Spongebob's group.

(00:23:26):
I didn't know Amy, sorry, has a crush on Amy.

(00:23:32):
Crush.

Rachel (00:23:33):
What does a crush mean?

(00:23:34):
I don't know.

Colin (00:23:35):
That you like someone.

Colin (00:23:37):
That you like like someone.

Rachel (00:23:40):
And you're being suss, Evan.

Rachel (00:23:43):
You're being sussy.

Rachel (00:23:44):
Sussy.

Rachel (00:23:45):
What would you want to tell someone tomorrow for Valentine's Day?

Rachel (00:23:49):
What would be a good way to start off the day?

(00:23:52):
Happy Valentine's Day.

Rachel (00:23:55):
And maybe eat chocolate?

Rachel (00:23:59):
Chocolate.

Rachel (00:24:00):
How should we celebrate tomorrow?

(00:24:05):
Maybe it could be a fun day.

Rachel (00:24:07):
A fun day.

Rachel (00:24:09):
What's a fun day like?

(00:24:11):
Well, you have a party and like everything you need for a party.

Rachel (00:24:17):
What do we need for a party?

(00:24:18):
Like blankets.

Colin (00:24:22):
Okay.

Colin (00:24:23):
What else?

(00:24:24):
We can tell scary stories.

Rachel (00:24:26):
Why would we tell scary stories for Valentine's day?

Rachel (00:24:29):
Cause it's so weird.

Rachel (00:24:31):
What's the scariest story you know?

Rachel (00:24:33):
No.

(00:24:36):
It's a scary story.

Rachel (00:24:38):
Yeah.

Rachel (00:24:39):
What's a scary story?

Rachel (00:24:40):
Do you even know any?

Rachel (00:24:43):
That's not scary.

Rachel (00:24:47):
Sonic.exe is scary.

(00:24:48):
Yeah.

(00:24:50):
Isn't the guy scarier than Sonic.exe?

Rachel (00:24:54):
No, who?

(00:24:55):
Name is Sonic.exe.

Colin (00:24:58):
Whoa.

(00:24:59):
It's scary.

Colin (00:25:00):
What's he do?

(00:25:02):
He's like taller than any song is.

(00:25:05):
And I don't know.

(00:25:06):
He looks pretty silly.

(00:25:08):
Well, I felt when I first saw him, I didn't know him.

(00:25:12):
And even he's a toy, too.

(00:25:15):
And I watched it on TV.

Rachel (00:25:17):
And who did we watch today?

(00:25:20):
Sunky.

Rachel (00:25:21):
Sunky.

Rachel (00:25:22):
Yeah, we watched Sunky.

Rachel (00:25:24):
And he can, like, walk on anything.

Rachel (00:25:27):
And it stretches his arms.

Rachel (00:25:29):
Sounds sus.

Rachel (00:25:29):
It's very weird.

(00:25:32):
Yeah, it was funny.

Colin (00:25:38):
Do you want to have a Sonic podcast?

Rachel (00:25:40):
I don't know yet.

Rachel (00:25:42):
You got to think about it.

Rachel (00:25:43):
What?

Rachel (00:25:45):
Okay.

Rachel (00:25:46):
Well, so party, blankets.

Colin (00:25:49):
Scary stories.

Rachel (00:25:50):
Scary stories.

Rachel (00:25:51):
And what else?

Rachel (00:25:53):
Booty dolla.

Rachel (00:25:54):
And booty?

Rachel (00:25:55):
No.

(00:25:56):
Booty dolla.

Rachel (00:25:57):
Booty dolla.

Rachel (00:25:59):
Okay.

Rachel (00:26:01):
Have a great time.

Rachel (00:26:02):
Okay.

Rachel (00:26:03):
And have a great Valentine's day.

Rachel (00:26:04):
We got to go.

Rachel (00:26:06):
What do we say when we leave?

(00:26:09):
Bye to sober banter.

Rachel (00:26:11):
Thank you for listening to sober banter.

Rachel (00:26:14):
Bye.

(00:26:15):
Bye.