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welcome to We Live It the Live A podcast

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your source for livestock market

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insights management strategies and real

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conversations with those who don't just

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work in the cattle industry they live it

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here are your hosts Ty D Cordova and

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Casey

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Mabry you ready welcome once again we

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are live on the Texas South Cattle

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Raisers Conventions floor at the trade

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show here i'm very very fortunate here

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to have uh Carl Ray Pope which is the

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president Steven Devil's uh first vice

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president and Dan Gatis second vice

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president to join us today on the We

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Live It podcast uh thanks everybody out

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there and all the social media platforms

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for joining us like we've said before

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with me and Casey Casey couldn't be here

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today he and his youngest daughter are

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out showing hogs so well like I said we

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we named it we live it cuz we truly do

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live the live the industry and what we

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do in the industry so we want this to be

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very informative uh got these guys here

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today just to talk about what they doing

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for the industry what they do for the

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livestock industry the agriculture

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industry and this is such a great

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organization throughout the state of

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Texas and these men have dedicated their

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life to this organization and I just

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going to kind of want to talk a little

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bit about that first of all it all goes

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back to relationships known car Poke for

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a while from the sail barn and from over

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in East Texas steven Debles's him and my

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my daughter his family his kids and my

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daughters show cattle together uh my

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daughter show cattle together with them

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dan I met him at Texas Beef Council ago

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and just kind of know him through that

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so it's all a relationship business um

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it goes back to all of us being in the

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industry so guys if you kind of want to

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start Carl I know y'all say Dan kind of

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tries to talk a lot so let's start with

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you and let's end with Dan thanks a lot

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Todd thanks thanks just throw it right

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out of there right in the beginning just

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start throwing spears right there kind

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of tell about yourself Carl and kind of

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what you do here and what what your goal

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is and mission is for the for the cattle

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raers well Todd thanks for having us and

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live a uh taking off like this it's fun

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to watch uh Carl Ray Pulk I am from

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Lufkin over in your neck of the woods

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East Texas serving as president um this

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association Tai and and Dan and I joke

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back and forth all the time and his time

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in the legislature but we're an advocacy

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driven group for this industry uh we're

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humbled and I think in that humility we

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don't share our story enough um we're

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challenged every day

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uh in both the Texas House and Senate as

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well as in Washington and if you if you

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drew one thing to me about what this

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organization adds from a value

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standpoint is we're advocating every day

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for what's right and rule America rule

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Texas but equally so to to the industry

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that we love and serve you know if we

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first and foremost if we'll keep God

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first in everything we do and then and

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then that transfers into to our values

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and and how we how we live our life but

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if you keep God first and and live your

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values that your life that way with the

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values this is what we're doing here in

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this industry so Stephen kind of tell a

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little bit about yourself how you kind

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of got involved and where you're from

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and all that sure sure my name is Steven

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Deble we're um family our family ranches

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in Victoria down on the Gulf Coast have

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for uh many generations now so I've been

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honored to be a part of this association

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for quite some time now it's a this is a

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very relationshipdriven industry um we

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all know that we all appreciate that and

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um I think it's uh it's it's just an

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honor we appreciate y'all y'all being a

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part of our trade show i think it's been

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a been a great weekend so um thank

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you Dan you got any words of wisdom no t

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you know I think what I'd add is one of

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the things that impresses me most about

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this whole organization is is its

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diversity across the across the board

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not only from a geographical inst you

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know instance car being from from East

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Texas and you got Stephen down in South

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Texas me more in the central Texas area

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but but also kind of how we came to to

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be part of this organization um how we

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got involved in this organization what

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our different operations look like you

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know you look at Car Ray and they run a

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really really good operation and you

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know um and larger you know larger than

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most you know operations you know that

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would be typical of the overall

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membership steven is is a day in day out

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cowman i mean all day every every day um

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I'm probably more what you would call

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the the hobby rancher side of the deal

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we don't have a large operation we we're

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there in central Texas and we're getting

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I've lost all my lease places just

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because of growth and so we're squeezed

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down to you know just to a home place of

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a little under 500 acres and so

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operationally that doesn't allow us to

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be what would most people think of as

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large ranchers or what most people would

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think of as members of Texas Southwest

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Cattle Racers and I think that's what I

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want to stress is that you know most of

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our members are 50 cows or less i kind

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of represent that kind of portion of the

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of the of

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our constituency with within the

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organization and I also didn't come to

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this organization and rise in leadership

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through you know through a legacy type

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of scenario either you know I'm we just

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if you want to be part of this

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organization you want to you want to

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matter show up show up and work yeah you

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you said something earlier about the 50

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head guys and when when I was part of

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the cell bar and my brother now owns and

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operates itself myself i think our our

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average head for a customer was like

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four or seven i mean it's and that's the

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kind of people that we want to y'all

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want to hear from that's the membership

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base you want to Yes you want the bigger

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guys but we need those other guys that

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that want to conserve that that western

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way of life if you so say that let's

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keep that culture let's let's raise our

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kids that way let's have a farm to go to

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to take our kids and our grandkids and

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we got to keep some we got to advocate

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to keep some of that around or we're

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going to lose it all

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what I love is the fact that the larger

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operations that are part of our

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organization understand that and you

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know their investment in into this

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organization is not only to protect

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themselves but also to give voice to the

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smaller operator that would not have

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that voice otherwise and and and we all

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operate together we're all a part of

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that same system and I I love this

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organization and um you know obviously

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we we all dedicate so much time to it

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for that very reason one I I have to add

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this i I I'm never shy away from a

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microphone dan brings something up 68%

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of our

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membership have less than 50 head of

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cattle we have 28,000 members so do the

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math on that and you bet we've got the

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pitchfork we've got the king we've got

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the sixes we've got the Armstrong but

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68% of the folks in this organization

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that drive this organization have less

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than 50 head of cattle that's pretty

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pretty amazing to know that they have a

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voice that we get to give them that

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voice so with an organization like this

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they get to have that voice and and and

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they rely on you guys to voice it for

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them and and to make the right decisions

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and do the right things and that's

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what's so awesome about this group of

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guys that we know we can trust y'all to

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make those decisions

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two go one thing I'd like to add is I

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think we all bring different skill sets

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to the table and I think that's what you

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know makes number one our leadership

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team that our organization that much

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more effective is we you know we we all

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have skill sets and um I think that's

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something that that we bring our skill

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set to the table to make um to make the

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organization better and the industry

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better tie that back and and y'all more

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and more y'all guys know me y'all know

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I'm pretty vocal about trusting God to

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what we do god's given us all the

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ability and he's given us a platform to

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do it on and we have to step out on the

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faith of him to do that and that's what

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you guys are doing i mean you're using

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your God-given talents and the platform

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TSC he's given you to go do it and

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that's awesome to see i mean I get

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excited about it you know our secretary

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Brooke Rollins this morning you know

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came here and she hit it right on the

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head i feel chills i got chills when she

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started talking about and that's exactly

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what she she pointed out you know we we

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are here for a reason and God's placed

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us in this moment for a reason and we're

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supposed to do those type of things you

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know going back to talking about our

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small members you know our small members

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are the ones most likely to be impacted

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by the things we're down fighting for in

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Austin you know you talk about imminent

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domain you talk about you know uh

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orphaned wells you talk about all of

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those types of things that that that are

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impact rural Texas those those are our

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smaller land owners that's the larger

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places are going to have the resources

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to protect themselves what we do in

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Austin and in Washington DC goes more to

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protect those small land owners than it

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does to the large ones it does it

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equally but it this organization gives

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them that voice and I think and I'm

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stepping into dance now but you know

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Texas on a daily basis loses 900 to

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a,000 acres mattie Parker was here mayor

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of Fort Worth yesterday tarant County

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alone loses 50 acres a day to

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development this guy on the end down

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here one of the fastest growing counties

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in Texas i went and picked him up the

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other day at his house and it's just one

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subdivision after another subdivision

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and then you get to Dan's place my point

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in that is Dan nailed it we're

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advocating for that small rural land

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owner because they may or may not have

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the wherewithal to do that on their own

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and I think it's so important to

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understand you know yes that that rural

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fragmentation is is becoming so very uh

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apparent and what the rural lifestyle

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and and the in the landscapes and the

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resources that we manage from a rural

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perspective it's beneficial to everyone

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and I think without that number one we

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lose food security and um I I just think

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it's important to understand the value

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of that rural component that we that we

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manage and that we advocate for and she

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said it best this morning we if we lose

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lose food security we lose national

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security and she's spot on if we can't

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provide for ourselves I mean we're And

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that what about an awesome awesome

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speech she gave um fantastic and just to

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see her interact with the kids after the

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fact get right in there with the FFA

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president vice president then their 4

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council and stuff and just to see that

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interaction with her she's We're very

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very blessed to have someone like that

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that's so approachable that's so that

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that's so engaged and and she truly

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understands this this lifestyle and the

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value that it brings so we're very very

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fortunate to have her here she's an

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Aggie it sure does okay next question

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moving right along how's the weather

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we took a picture by the way i seen it i

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got it i

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didn't It'll be fine

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pass carl Ray likes maroon he wears

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maroon ties a lot too i love that tie

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pretty

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anything else y'all want to touch on

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guys i mean this is kind of an open

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forum i want y'all to touch on what

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y'all want to what y'all want to tell

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everybody out there that's watching

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about what we do ty Ty Ty let me I'm

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going to interrupt to say one thing tyer

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interrupting ty one of the things you

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you you've talked about you talk about

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God you talk about all the things and

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the things that we fight down in Austin

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we we have to understand a lot of times

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that that what is the intent by behind

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some of the things that we're having to

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fight and fake meat bill is a great

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example of that we were down Carl Ray

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and I spent all day in Austin down

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testifying and to to be honest to a

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pretty hostile um House committee that

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was really against against what we're

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we're for and what I you know what we

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tried to explain to them and call Ray

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did a great job at it you know as

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well when you look at the the fake meat

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companies that are out there they're

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they're not trying to sell better

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nutrition because they can't prove that

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they're not selling things that are

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better for the environment because they

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can't prove that even though they'll say

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it that's been disproven they can't say

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that it's you know safer product it's

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not there well why what's the purpose

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behind it well you start looking at the

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money that's behind it and the investors

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behind it pure and simple it's everybody

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that wants to eliminate animal

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agriculture it's all your animal rights

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it's all of those types that that are

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behind that whole

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movement we have to fight that day in

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and day out we're never not going to be

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able to you know have be able to show up

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and fight it because they're going to

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consistently come after us but that's

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what this association and these

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organizations do right and and and I'm

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just going to add this you're from

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Buffalo Texas you you you know this road

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back close well on the outskirts of

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Buffalo right

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the the one of the proudest things that

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we carry out into our membership is the

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advocacy portion that we represent all

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of us represent but whether you're in

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Anderson County Houston County or

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Williamson County victim we have a voice

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for

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agriculture if we have a fault tie it's

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that we don't talk about it enough

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exactly sure and whether you're talking

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about your Christian values or this

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industry we do not promote it enough

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amen and I would say to anyone

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that tunes in to live

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a foundation's there to continue to

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promote this industry but you got to set

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your humility aside not in a boastful

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not in an arrogant way but we have to

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educate those that are not in this space

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i want to use that as a segue for both

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of these gentlemen because last night

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you know we've talked about advocacy but

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something you've mentioned and

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everybody's mentioned here is talking

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about the next generation last night we

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had a a you know I don't know if we'll

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we'll be able to get through this one

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but last night we had a dinner to honor

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of one of the greatest men that's ever

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been part of our organization that's

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Gilly Rios who we lost unexpectedly and

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obviously untimely and Gilly was a great

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friend to each of us up here a dear

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friend to each of us up here and Gilly's

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passion was the next generation and that

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leadership development foundation that

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he championed every day we you know

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we've dedicated our internship program

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under his name but I'd like for these

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two gentlemen to talk a little bit about

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what we're doing you know with TSC to

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bring the next generation on and talk

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about a little bit what I would call the

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non-traditional function you know look

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right right we didn't we we weren't all

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born into this you know we didn't all

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win the lottery to be able to run an

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operation there's different avenues if

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you want to be part of this this

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industry you can be you don't have to be

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born into it marry into it win the

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lottery there's ways you can be involved

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gilly was an example of that but I'd

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like for them to kind of run with that

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well I think I think TSC we we've we've

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given a really high priority to

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developing the next generation of of

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leaders you know we do that through a

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multitude of ways we have internship

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programs we've got a working grant

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program and um I think that's something

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that we've really really focused on i

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think um last year if I'm not mistaken a

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thousand individuals coming through this

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trade show a thousand out of about 4,000

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were under 40 years of age so I think um

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you know the opportunities are are there

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and we want to be a platform and and a

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conduit to get to help them understand

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um understand number one about the

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industry and how to be plugged in but

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also give them opportunities that they

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wouldn't have had uh um um otherwise so

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youth youth development and and

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leadership um is is really important to

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all of us so can I tail end on that you

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can so Dan hit the nail on the head um

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we we know that this is a growing

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industry and and my kids were fortunate

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enough just like yours to come up

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through 4 and FFA i was a 4 kid i had

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that opportunity gilly Rios walked out

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of Texas A&M University and had never

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stepped foot on a cattle operation in

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his

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life and goes to TCU Ranch Management

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works for the East works for the King

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works for Labavia and he recognized the

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critical component of that opportunity

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for a first generation rancher a first

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generation farmer and and I'm I'm going

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to have to stop there by saying we have

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the

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toolbox for anybody interested in this

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industry we've got it through our

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working G grant program through

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leadership development through mentoring

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internship all you got to do is show up

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go back to what Dan All you got to do is

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show up show up and work push push dan

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Dan shows up oh well Dan shows up hey

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where's that bail at stephen you got I'm

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telling yeah I think I'm going to

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initiate that because sometimes I need

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the bell between these two for sure

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that's been said quite a bit

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guys anything else y'all want to touch

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on before we kind of wrap it up here i I

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can't thank y'all enough for for giving

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Live A and We Live It

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a y'all and and to just to be a small

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part of what y'all are doing it just

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gives me chills just to think of all the

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success that y'all had this week and and

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going forward and like you said with the

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intern programs and the Gilly Roha stuff

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and and it listening to Mr rollins speak

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this morning and man it just this has

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been awesome we're very passionate about

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what we do we appreciate all the vendors

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here especially live a the opportunity

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to come share our message and share

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share our story um so we appreciate

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y'all ty thank you for what you're doing

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here because you know what what Carl Ray

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so eloquent talked about is that we

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don't spread our message enough that's

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what you're doing just spreading our

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message and we thank you appreciate what

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you're doing for us i hate it when he

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steals my thunder um don't stop this all

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right whether it's through your your

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live a podcast whether it's through your

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auction services we have to talk about

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what we're doing and sometimes we don't

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do that often enough but thank you for

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what y'all do well gentlemen can't thank

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y'all

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enough uh podcast world I guess is what

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you call it thank y'all thank y'all for

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the support thank y'all for the

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subscribes we we we can't thank y'all

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enough for tuning in cuz that's what

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keeps us going and and allows us to

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continue this platform of We Live It so

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thank y'all very much god bless

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welcome to We Live It the Live A podcast

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your source for livestock market

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conversations with those who don't just

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