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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Good morning, Jeff, it was so close I

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<v Speaker 1>got you that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was for it's a three feet yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna seject everybody to three in a row.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. If you're new to the podcast, Chris on occasion

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<v Speaker 2>will delight all of our listeners with his rendition of

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<v Speaker 2>good morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes from from Singing in the Ringing.

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<v Speaker 2>In the Rain, and the previous two he went back

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<v Speaker 2>to back, Monday and Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>I will give you a fake dollar if you could

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<v Speaker 1>tell me who sings that song in the original movie

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<v Speaker 1>Singing in the Ring. No, okay, well, actually he participates.

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<v Speaker 1>But who's the lead of that song?

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<v Speaker 2>A girl? Yes? Yes, who's who is it?

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<v Speaker 1>It's Princess Leah's mom.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Kerry Fisher's y Fisher's mom. Yes, yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well they're both dead, yeah, kay Fisher's mom Debbie Reynolds.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, there it is very good.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we are.

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<v Speaker 2>This first minute has been incredible. Okay, people, if you

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<v Speaker 2>like the first minute, just wait for the next twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Four whatever, incredible whatever. Jesus says, I am the Resurrection

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<v Speaker 1>and the life, which is a famous saying. And if

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<v Speaker 1>he were doing this podcast, he might cover the story

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<v Speaker 1>of the raising of Lazarus.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh this might You're right, yes, Oh that's a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>He probably would. In fact, I would argue and say,

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<v Speaker 1>this is probably the biggest miracle outside of his own

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<v Speaker 1>resurrection that took place in the life of Jesus.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh definitely. Would it created a buzzouldn't it?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>It did.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, this is right before passover, and it says

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<v Speaker 1>that people showed up at Passover because they heard that

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<v Speaker 1>he raised lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Was a big deal. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, before we get to that, Desiree has a

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<v Speaker 1>segment for us called would you rather?

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<v Speaker 2>These are fun, they're always would you rather? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And it usually gives us two awful.

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<v Speaker 2>Choice and it gives people a little insight into the

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<v Speaker 2>the dynamic relationship the two of us have.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and and more importantly enigma that is Jeff fort.

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<v Speaker 2>And Chris Well, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, would you rather have to do finger guns?

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<v Speaker 2>Would you? It's so funny?

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<v Speaker 1>Would you rather have to do finger guns? Every time

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<v Speaker 1>you make eye contact? That is so funny or shout

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a genius every time you get something.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. Well, I already do the I'm a genius thing

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<v Speaker 2>every time I get something sort of sort.

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<v Speaker 1>Of maybe not really, you don't, but but it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is maybe something that you might have an easier

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<v Speaker 1>time doing. Yeah, but the guns, the guns every time

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<v Speaker 1>you make eye contact.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, you would really want.

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<v Speaker 1>To think about this every time you make eye contact. Dude,

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, I'd have to do I'm a genius because

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<v Speaker 1>as you could downplay the I'm a genius, and but

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<v Speaker 1>you can't downplay this.

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<v Speaker 2>So the only time you have to shout I am

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<v Speaker 2>a genius is every time you're right, which is which

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<v Speaker 2>is rare. Okay, okay, right, So you'd have to do

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<v Speaker 2>finger guns way more often. Is that it?

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<v Speaker 1>Or not look anybody in the eye.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well there you go walk around your eyes closed.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So what do you choose?

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<v Speaker 2>Genius genius? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, me too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's I think you'd have to do it way

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<v Speaker 2>less often. Yes, would you rather have a voice that

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<v Speaker 2>echoes dramatically or a laugh that sounds like a kazoo.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a weird set of questions right there. Weird choices.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, echoes dramatically, it's that that's my voice whenever I

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<v Speaker 2>do like a dramatic voice, like like the like the

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<v Speaker 2>the Monster Truck shows. Yeah, Tuesday, Tuesday, Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's saying echoes dramatically. It's your whole voice,

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<v Speaker 1>which means every time you speak, or just a laugh

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds like you speak for a living.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. As opposed to the laugh as a kazoo, I

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<v Speaker 2>think I think we'd have to. I'd have to do

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<v Speaker 2>the laugh as a kazoo.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I would too, because nobody could, you know, have

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<v Speaker 1>all of their voice echo.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we're not professional laughers, we're professional speakers, right, yeah, yes, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, professional speakers. Wow. I guess that is true. I

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<v Speaker 1>never think about that all right. Number three? Would you

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<v Speaker 1>rather only be able to speak in dad jokes or

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<v Speaker 1>have to laugh at every dad joke you hear, even

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<v Speaker 1>the bad ones?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's easy, just laugh at the bad ones, holy cos.

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<v Speaker 1>Well no, it's actually laugh at every dad joke, even

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<v Speaker 1>the bad ones.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's what I'm saying. I would laugh at every

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<v Speaker 2>dad joke.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's actually a pleasure to laugh because every dad joke.

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<v Speaker 2>Only being able to speak in dad jokes means again,

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<v Speaker 2>as professional speakers, right, it may be difficult for us

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<v Speaker 2>to actually.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, even those who don't speak as

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<v Speaker 1>professional speakers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you still speak, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't just speak in dad jokes like Desire's in

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<v Speaker 1>the back right there, and Josh is listening, he's doing

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<v Speaker 1>the audio. They couldn't live their lives only in dad jokes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you're right, Yeah, you're correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And they're not speakers, they're sound people.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. Would you rather have a fridge that sings

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<v Speaker 2>opera when opened or a toaster that screams when your

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<v Speaker 2>toast is ready?

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<v Speaker 1>A fridge that sings opera went opened? That that sounds hilarious,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way. A toature that screams, oh, definitely, a

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<v Speaker 1>toasture that screams when your toast is ready.

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<v Speaker 2>You open your.

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<v Speaker 1>Fridge way more at number one number two. Opera could

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<v Speaker 1>be rough.

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<v Speaker 2>In the morning, it depends on what song.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, in the mornings it's still pretty rough.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>You you sneak out of it. You can never sneaking

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<v Speaker 1>at at midnight's net.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true. So our fridge does sing. Our fridge has

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<v Speaker 2>Alexa built into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh does it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, so Bonnie always has it playing music anyways.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>And but screaming when your toast is ready is helpful. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>so you put them so.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love it. Yeah, you like that? Be great? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Hey I bought your toaster.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's great. Yeah, yeah, you bought me a toaster

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<v Speaker 1>and and it actually toasts.

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<v Speaker 2>If our listeners are wondering what kind of relationship we have,

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<v Speaker 2>we have a toaster buying relationship. Yes, that's the level

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<v Speaker 2>of our friendship.

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<v Speaker 1>And he bought me a toaster for my birthday and

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<v Speaker 1>it's and it toasts the face of Bob Ross on

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<v Speaker 1>the toaster and onto onto the toast. And I have

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you, I have never loved the gift more.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it and and uh and then you and

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<v Speaker 1>you left me a note and you said, yes, you

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<v Speaker 1>said to the most creative person that I know.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, which I will never forget. So you and

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<v Speaker 2>Bob Ross, I appreciate the two of you are rate

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<v Speaker 2>at the same level on my list creative people, creative people, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Only only he says, we'll make a happy tree. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>just make this a happy tree.

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<v Speaker 2>It's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't say that, but I do do it

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<v Speaker 1>when I paint, I make happy trees all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>How could you not?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? That's right?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Number five? Would you rather exit every conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with a bow and farewell peasants or enter every room

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<v Speaker 1>with jazz hands and a wink? You have got to

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<v Speaker 1>be killing This is hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>These are good ones, This is these are great.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, exit every conversation with a bow and saying farewell peasants.

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<v Speaker 2>I already do that. Yeah, right, you do that. The

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<v Speaker 2>arm now as the boss. Okay, today, for the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the meetings we have today, it is farewell peasants,

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<v Speaker 2>Farewell peasants.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have a meeting. I have a meeting for

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<v Speaker 1>Transform one, and we're gonna go down to Bethesda. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna meet with the staff.

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<v Speaker 2>Farewell. Okay, let's let's table that idea about. Let's decide

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<v Speaker 2>not to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I could do that to them.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, then when you walk in, then it has to

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<v Speaker 2>be jazz hands.

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<v Speaker 1>Jazz hands, which is more my style, it is, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's what she did, is she chose our

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<v Speaker 2>styles and gave us one sid well, of course, of

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<v Speaker 2>course that's what happened. That Farewell Peasants is you. Jazz

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<v Speaker 2>hands in a week is me? For sure. I know

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<v Speaker 2>that Farewell Peasants is me, But the jazz hands and

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<v Speaker 2>winks not me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's you when you're joking.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, I mean you don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>That you just you could easily joke that way, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I mean like like I would really embrace

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<v Speaker 1>jazz hands in a wink. Yes, right, I would do

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<v Speaker 1>it as a joke.

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<v Speaker 2>So those are great. Okay, that might be my favorite

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<v Speaker 2>one we've done in quite some time. I agree, those

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<v Speaker 2>are great there, I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, way to go, good John Desk.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking about some of the favorite things you've ever done.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, speaking of jazz hands in a wink, that's I

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<v Speaker 1>believe that's what Lazar's did when he came out of

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<v Speaker 1>it too.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't say it, but in no.

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<v Speaker 1>In my mind, I picture Lazar is doing jazz hands

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<v Speaker 1>in a wink.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's okay. I was gonna say. One of the

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<v Speaker 2>favorite things Jesus ever did was raised his friend from

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<v Speaker 2>the day. Yours is better?

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So we are in John chapter eleven, yep, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're one through forty four, so we go to get

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<v Speaker 2>with it. I got a lot of reading to do.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not gonna be able to talk very much about it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're just gonna read the story. Trust you can be

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<v Speaker 2>able to pick up. Excuse me. So it says a

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<v Speaker 2>man named Lazarus was sick. He lived in Bethany with

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<v Speaker 2>his sisters Mary and Martha. This is the Mary who

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<v Speaker 2>later poured the expense of perfume on the Lord's feet

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<v Speaker 2>and wiped her them with her hair. Her brother Lazarus

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<v Speaker 2>telling him, Lord, your dear friend is very sick. But

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<v Speaker 2>when Jesus heard about it, he said, lazarus is sickness

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<v Speaker 2>your brother will rise again. Yes, Martha said, he will

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<v Speaker 2>Of Lord, if only you'd been here, my brother would

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<v Speaker 2>the other people wailing with her, a deep anger welled

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<v Speaker 2>you put him? He asked? They told him, Lord, come

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<v Speaker 2>and see, and then Jesus wept. The people who were

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<v Speaker 2>standing nearby said how much he loved him, but some

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<v Speaker 2>said this man healed a blind man. Couldn't you have

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<v Speaker 2>Rolled the stone aside, Jesus told them, But Martha, the

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<v Speaker 2>dead man's sister, protested the Lord. He's been dead for

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<v Speaker 2>four days. The smell will be terrible. And the King,

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<v Speaker 2>James says he thinking think so funny. Jesus responded, didn't

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<v Speaker 2>I tell you that you would see God's glory if

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<v Speaker 2>you believe. So they rolled the stone aside, and then

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus looked up to heaven and said, Father, thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for hearing me. You always hear me, but I said

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<v Speaker 2>standing here, they will believe you sent me. Then Jesus shouted,

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<v Speaker 2>wrapped in a headcloth. Jesus told them unwrap him and

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. That's it verse forty four.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep. And so yeah, there it is. What a great story.

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<v Speaker 1>And Jesus very intentionally stayed back. And what was he

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<v Speaker 1>at Beseta?

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<v Speaker 2>Was he? And no, no, he's down in Judea. And

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<v Speaker 2>now he was in Jerusalem and then in Judea and

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<v Speaker 2>he left. So Bethany is just over the hill of

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<v Speaker 2>the Mount of Olives. If Bethany's on the backside of

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<v Speaker 2>the same hill that we would call the amount of Olives,

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<v Speaker 2>on the other side facing the Eastern gate in Jerusalem. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so he's just outside the city of Jerusalem.

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<v Speaker 1>So he ends up staying there on purpose, knowing that

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to raise lads Us from the dead. He

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<v Speaker 1>says to his disciples, Hey, once you see this, you're

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<v Speaker 1>really going to believe, right, So he knows the entire

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<v Speaker 2>This is gonna be amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>This is gonna be amazing. Buckle up, right. That's really

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<v Speaker 1>essentially what he's doing is preparing them for for something

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to be great. And he even says, Lazarus

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<v Speaker 1>is dead, but it's not going to end in death.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go wake him up. So he's announcing the

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<v Speaker 1>miracle even before he does it. So can you even imagine,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they said, well, wait a minute, if he's sleeping,

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna get better? No, no, he's dead. Now come with me,

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<v Speaker 1>And so he'd already said I'm gonna wake him up,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he says no, no, no, no, he's dead, which

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<v Speaker 1>means they can figure it out. Like you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't say I'm going to raise him from the tomb,

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<v Speaker 1>but he said I'm going to wake him up and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not going to end in death. So it's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>clear that he's announcing to his disciples beforehand that he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to raise Lazarus from the dead. And now Peter,

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<v Speaker 1>James and John they would have seen Jesus raised the

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<v Speaker 1>young girl, right, So, but they were told not to

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<v Speaker 1>tell anybody, so I often wonder did they tell the others,

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<v Speaker 1>like did they tell the other ones or did they.

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<v Speaker 2>Care to John? Yeah, yeah, Oh that's interesting. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So so you know, with this.

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<v Speaker 2>One, I think everybody was seeing the little girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, but you know how it is. I mean other towns, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean like other towns far away. It didn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus told the whole room not to tell anybody, right,

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<v Speaker 1>give her something to eat? Remember, So So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>just I often wonder if Peter, James and John is like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh I believe this because we've seen this, And then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering if the other nine are just like what

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<v Speaker 1>do you mean, Like, are you actually going to raise

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<v Speaker 1>somebody from the dead? And I wonder if they had

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<v Speaker 1>no knowledge of the girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, so that that phrase, don't tell anybody. We

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<v Speaker 2>didn't talk about this yesterday. It's funny that we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about it now. Yeah, that that phrase. I've heard some

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<v Speaker 2>scholars say. It's not like stay silent and if you

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<v Speaker 2>say anything, I'm going to be mad at you. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a secret, right, It's not that it's there's no need

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<v Speaker 2>That's more along those lines, because like the maniac of Cadera,

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<v Speaker 2>he comes out. He was insane, he was they chain

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<v Speaker 2>him up. He's running naked and howling at the moon

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the of the tombs, right, that's

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<v Speaker 2>where he's living, full of demons, the Bible says, and

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<v Speaker 2>then Jesus cast the demons out. Next thing you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's sitting clothed in his right mind in front of Jesus. Jesus,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to follow you, and Jesus, don't go tell

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<v Speaker 2>anybody what happened, just write go home. Well, everybody would

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<v Speaker 2>have seen it, and so Jesus isn't saying keep it

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<v Speaker 2>a secret. Jesus is saying, let what happened to you

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<v Speaker 2>speak louder than your words, speak about it. That's that's

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<v Speaker 2>what he's saying. So it may not have been keep

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<v Speaker 2>it a secret as much as it was let the

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<v Speaker 2>deed speak for itself, because everybody saw the little girl

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<v Speaker 2>walking around. It's not like it was a secret.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, And could be that. Remember, he was always

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<v Speaker 1>see he seemed like he always was conscious about his fame,

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<v Speaker 1>right like like like for instance, there are times where

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<v Speaker 1>he said, hey, I've not told anybody this. Uh so,

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<v Speaker 1>so don't tell anybody, right, I'm not ready for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he told his Yeah, he told his mom, My time

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<v Speaker 1>is not yet come. He was he was pretty aware

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<v Speaker 1>and in tune of releasing information about himself in stages,

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<v Speaker 1>right and and and uh and you know it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>even halfway through his ministry before, you know, even his

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<v Speaker 1>own disciples said, I'm pretty certain you're the Christ, the

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<v Speaker 1>son of the Living God, right after they'd seen multiple miracles.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that, uh, I think that the h

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<v Speaker 1>that could have been attached to this don't tell anybody

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<v Speaker 2>So you have Mary Martha and Lazarus. Mary Martha and

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<v Speaker 2>Lazarus are brother and sisters, yes, and they live together.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's some of Jesus's closest personal friends. Yes, Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>stays with them many times. They have a friendship with

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus that is different than almost any other interaction you

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<v Speaker 2>see in the Bible period. With Jesus, he has a

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<v Speaker 2>fondness and a friendship with his disciples, and he says

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<v Speaker 2>at one point, you don't have to call me master,

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<v Speaker 2>you're my friends, right, that kind of thing. But with

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<v Speaker 2>these ones they're not like following disciples everywhere Jesus goes.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not just packing up. But when Jesus is in town,

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<v Speaker 2>he always stays at their house. They hang out, They

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<v Speaker 2>fix the dinners, they hosted the events, all that kind

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<v Speaker 2>and there's something sort of sweet here. On the one side,

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus wants to go, but doesn't because he knows that

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<v Speaker 2>the miracle is more important than than just a healing.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's raising from the dead, and this is going to

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<v Speaker 2>has to wait. But then when he shows up, Martha

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<v Speaker 2>comes out first, which is interesting because in a previous story,

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<v Speaker 2>Martha's the one in the kitchen and Marry is the

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<v Speaker 2>one with Jesus right right, And this time Martha comes

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<v Speaker 2>out and she said, Lord, if you've been here, he

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<v Speaker 2>But this you can imagine she's not accusing him. I

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<v Speaker 2>people before, and after they found out a loved one died,

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<v Speaker 2>and those days afterwards just this overwhelming grief. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think she probably, you know, just fell onto his shoulder

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<v Speaker 2>and like, Lord, if you'd been here, he would have lived.

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<v Speaker 2>Why didn't you come? Yeah? Right. The one person they

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<v Speaker 2>dying never came. He was close enough to come, but

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't come, right, Yeah. And she knew it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and not to mention the disciples certainly knew that

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<v Speaker 1>four more days?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so and he'd been dead for four days, right, right,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll never die, right, And she said, I've always believed

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<v Speaker 2>you're the Messiah. That's a powerful that's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>most powerful declarations. Hers and Peters, I think are the

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<v Speaker 2>two most powerful declarations. Yeah, prior to the crucifixion of Jesus. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>I've always believed you're the Messiah, the son of God,

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<v Speaker 2>the one who came into the world from God. So

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<v Speaker 2>then she goes back and she gets married. Hey, Mary, Mary,

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus is here, which is surprising because before Mary was

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<v Speaker 2>the one who'd run out and sit at Jesus' feet.

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<v Speaker 2>She's the one who always wanted to be with Jesus. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but he let her down, and so the Bible says

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<v Speaker 2>she stayed back. This is a conscious choice not to

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<v Speaker 2>come to Jesus, right, Martha did and she at this moment,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, when we're in a crisis, we either

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<v Speaker 2>run to Jesus or we run from him. And in

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<v Speaker 2>this moment, she's tempted to stay until he calls her.

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<v Speaker 2>She hears his voice, and she comes to him very quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>The Bible says she immediately went to him when he

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<v Speaker 2>calls to her.

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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. Yeah, and let's not forget that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you've preached her as before where we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the symbolism of taking off the grave clothes. Right, So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like every course, every person who gets raised

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<v Speaker 1>to walk in a brand new life, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>every time a person accepts Christ. You know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible says, we go from death to life. We

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<v Speaker 1>have a brand new life. We walk different, we think different,

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<v Speaker 1>we act different. We are empowered by the Holy Spirit. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're transformed, we are made new. All of those things,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the symbolism of Jesus going in the earth

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<v Speaker 1>and coming out of the earth is what baptism represents,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the whole brand new thing. So so symbolically

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<v Speaker 1>Lazarus coming out of the grave. It's interesting that Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>says a couple of things. Number one, help him right, like,

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<v Speaker 1>help him walk, he hasn't walked in a couple of days.

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<v Speaker 1>Help him walk, And number two, take off his grave clothes.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that could be a really good word picture

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<v Speaker 1>and a good symbolism for us when we become Christians.

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<v Speaker 1>The number one is we have to take off the

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<v Speaker 1>old grave clothes, the dead things, right, the things that

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<v Speaker 1>bring death in our lives. And there are so many things,

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<v Speaker 1>old habits, old sins, old mistakes, old you know, worldviews, mindsets,

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<v Speaker 1>all those things you know, or even even like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>habits that bring you down the wrong road. All of

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<v Speaker 1>those things those are like grave clothes. They are things

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<v Speaker 1>of our past. There are things that are only going

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<v Speaker 1>to lead to death, right, and so we take those

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<v Speaker 1>things off, take those old things off. You're not dead anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're alive, take them off. And then the second

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<v Speaker 1>thing is is you know, help him means you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it could be symbolic of we need help from other Christians. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>we should be discipled by others. We should look to

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<v Speaker 1>others as mentors. We should you know, gain spiritual advice

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<v Speaker 1>or godly advice. We should seek advice, you know. We

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<v Speaker 1>we can't just become a Christian and think to ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>that we're strong enough to go ahead and conquer the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Just us in God. The equation is us in God

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<v Speaker 1>and others. God designed us to be a part of

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<v Speaker 1>the Church and other Christians in our lives, especially those

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<v Speaker 1>who are going to help us along the way.

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<v Speaker 2>So one of the things I love about this story

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<v Speaker 2>rate before the resurrection part of this is when the

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<v Speaker 2>Bible says that Jesus was angry, yeah, right, and then

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<v Speaker 2>it says he wept, yes, And so there's so much

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<v Speaker 2>emotion in this moment for Jesus. So I believe he

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<v Speaker 2>was angry at death itself, right, the fact that death

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<v Speaker 2>is even a thing. It was never supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>a thing. Right, Death is a consequence of sin, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I think that that was part of it was

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<v Speaker 2>the enemy is the one who you know brings death,

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<v Speaker 2>the enemy of humanity, and I think he's angry, and

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<v Speaker 2>it says he was still angry when he arrived at

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<v Speaker 2>the tomb, right, So this is really ticked off. But

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle it says he wept, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>he wept because he loved them. I think he wept

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<v Speaker 2>because he was empathizing with their grief. And then I

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<v Speaker 2>think he also knew what it was going to take

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<v Speaker 2>to overcome death ultimately.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, have you ever lost Well, that's a silly question.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to your father's funeral. I was going to say,

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<v Speaker 1>have you ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Lost someone close to you?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So it's very different between the one hundred funerals

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<v Speaker 1>that you did previous people that other people have lost, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and then going to a funeral where you experienced true loss.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you think about it, this is actually the

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<v Speaker 1>only death recorded in the scriptures because it doesn't record

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<v Speaker 1>Joseph's death. You know, we are to assume that Joseph

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<v Speaker 1>is not a part of you know, Jesus' life, and

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere along the way he died. But it literally has

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<v Speaker 1>zero syllable indicating that.

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<v Speaker 2>But this one that's a dear friend.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a dear friend, and he experiences true loss and

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<v Speaker 1>and and so it records that he weeps. Now, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean he didn't weep with Joseph, right, right, It

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<v Speaker 1>just means this one's recorded.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this was a meaningful, a meaningful moment for him,

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<v Speaker 2>and he wept. But one of the things I love

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<v Speaker 2>about Jesus.

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<v Speaker 1>Which could be the reason why he's so mad at death,

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<v Speaker 1>because now it's personal for him relationally as a human.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, one of the things I love about Jesus is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he healed Jerris's daughter who was dead. He

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<v Speaker 2>healed the widow's son. He just walked up on a funeral,

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<v Speaker 2>and he heals the widowed son and rais him from

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<v Speaker 2>the dead. Here, he's very emotionally engaged with this whole situation.

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<v Speaker 2>He's mad at death. He's weeping over the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>his friend has died, and then he raises him from

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<v Speaker 2>the dead. One of the things I love about Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>is he ruins every funeral he shows up to. That's awesome, right,

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<v Speaker 2>that's great, that's what he does. And so Jesus specializes

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<v Speaker 2>in raising dead things back to life. And so maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you've already done the funeral on your marriage, or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you've already done the funeral on your finances, or on

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<v Speaker 2>your career or on your future. Jesus specializes in showing

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<v Speaker 2>up and ruining every funeral. In his mind, it's not over.

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<v Speaker 2>He has the ability to bring it back to life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And then the last sentence is have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>used John eleven thirty five as the shortest verse in

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Bible dress Jesus wept ye too.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, that's our time. We'll see you next time

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<v Speaker 1>on the Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys,