WEBVTT NOTE This file was generated by Descript 00:00:00.789 --> 00:00:06.320 Welcome to the Soul Touched by Dogs Podcast, the show for dog lovers who 00:00:06.340 --> 00:00:12.000 see dogs not as toys or tools, but wise souls worth our respect and care. 00:00:12.580 --> 00:00:14.559 I'm an Herrmann, and I'm your host. 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:20.560 I talk to poor some humans, people who do great work for dogs and their people. 00:00:21.099 --> 00:00:23.360 So come and join us for today's conversation. 00:00:25.630 --> 00:00:27.170 Anke: Hello, and welcome, Heather. 00:00:27.470 --> 00:00:29.070 I'm so excited to have you. 00:00:29.070 --> 00:00:30.770 It's always fun to talk to you. 00:00:31.305 --> 00:00:34.125 Heather: Oh, thank you so much for having me on. 00:00:34.585 --> 00:00:36.205 I so appreciate it. 00:00:36.425 --> 00:00:38.345 And to spend time with you as well. 00:00:38.345 --> 00:00:38.905 Anke: Thank you. 00:00:38.905 --> 00:00:39.545 It's always fun. 00:00:39.545 --> 00:00:42.300 We haven't been a while, have We yeah. 00:00:42.300 --> 00:00:44.940 And and a big cuddle to your sweet test. 00:00:44.940 --> 00:00:46.640 I can see her in the background there. 00:00:47.100 --> 00:00:47.420 Yeah. 00:00:47.420 --> 00:00:48.400 Heather: There she is. 00:00:49.655 --> 00:00:49.735 Yeah. 00:00:49.735 --> 00:00:50.855 The chilled 1. 00:00:50.855 --> 00:00:51.595 Let's say. 00:00:52.855 --> 00:00:54.615 Anke: But we're gonna talk about the other 1. 00:00:54.615 --> 00:00:59.830 So let's talk before we get into talking about The foster dog. 00:01:01.650 --> 00:01:03.890 Give us a, like, a 2 minute bird's eye overview. 00:01:03.890 --> 00:01:04.870 Where are you based? 00:01:04.930 --> 00:01:05.510 You know? 00:01:05.890 --> 00:01:07.990 What's your connection with dogs? 00:01:09.685 --> 00:01:12.805 Heather: So I'm currently based in place called Market 00:01:12.805 --> 00:01:14.585 Drayton, which is in Shropshire. 00:01:14.805 --> 00:01:19.460 It's UK, uh, countryside And, uh, Market Town. 00:01:19.460 --> 00:01:19.960 Yeah. 00:01:20.180 --> 00:01:22.680 Um, and, um, we do property development. 00:01:22.740 --> 00:01:28.355 So this is our kind of house project that we moved into last year, Um, that 00:01:28.355 --> 00:01:32.515 we're just finishing off inside the house at the moment and developing that. 00:01:32.515 --> 00:01:40.030 So I'm based here for now, Um, and more of that will probably come out as we go on 00:01:40.030 --> 00:01:41.790 the conversation as to what that's about. 00:01:41.790 --> 00:01:43.230 But, um, yeah. 00:01:43.230 --> 00:01:50.335 So I I guess the, uh, did you say what do I do, or did you say Both? 00:01:50.695 --> 00:01:51.195 About. 00:01:51.335 --> 00:01:51.835 Yeah. 00:01:52.055 --> 00:01:52.455 Okay. 00:01:52.455 --> 00:01:57.090 Well, so I'm all about, Uh, transformation, whether that be 00:01:57.090 --> 00:02:01.110 property, animals, or people. 00:02:01.975 --> 00:02:04.155 Anke: So Love a good place, Trent. 00:02:04.535 --> 00:02:06.795 Heather: The crossroads, yeah, that come all together. 00:02:07.655 --> 00:02:13.400 Um, and I typically have been working in this sort of coach mental 00:02:13.540 --> 00:02:15.880 space for the last 8 years now. 00:02:16.295 --> 00:02:22.535 Um, and I've just started to share those skills with animals, um, which 00:02:22.535 --> 00:02:26.890 brings us on to obviously, Um, why we wanted to have this conversation 00:02:26.890 --> 00:02:32.350 or even ask you for a random my first experience of fostering a dog. 00:02:33.835 --> 00:02:34.875 So you've had 00:02:34.875 --> 00:02:35.275 Anke: Tess 00:02:35.355 --> 00:02:36.335 Heather: oh, Pesna? 00:02:37.675 --> 00:02:40.015 Uh, so Tess is gonna be 7 in July. 00:02:40.235 --> 00:02:40.555 Anke: Wow. 00:02:40.555 --> 00:02:41.195 Time flies. 00:02:41.195 --> 00:02:44.720 It feels like kinda yesterday that she was I know. 00:02:44.740 --> 00:02:45.760 I know. 00:02:46.700 --> 00:02:50.700 So so what well, first of first of all, what inspired you to 00:02:50.700 --> 00:02:52.985 even consider fostering it 00:02:53.405 --> 00:02:53.905 Heather: all. 00:02:54.325 --> 00:02:55.845 It's such a beautiful question. 00:02:55.845 --> 00:03:00.005 And at the time, I probably would not have been able to answer it other than 00:03:00.165 --> 00:03:05.880 or go deep with the answer other than I really wanted a second dog for my Tessie 00:03:05.880 --> 00:03:07.900 to play with, like a little playmate. 00:03:08.525 --> 00:03:12.925 Um, so I was, like, hell bent on having the second dog at some point when the 00:03:12.925 --> 00:03:18.440 time is right, um, and that's Where the decision kind of came from originally. 00:03:19.140 --> 00:03:22.260 Um, I didn't know when, and I didn't know what type of dog. 00:03:22.260 --> 00:03:23.460 Like, all of those things. 00:03:23.460 --> 00:03:28.675 I just of had in my mind, it would be really nice to have a playmate for her. 00:03:30.015 --> 00:03:31.930 So that's when we kind of started. 00:03:32.150 --> 00:03:32.470 So 00:03:32.470 --> 00:03:35.850 Anke: so so fosters, and I'm like, let's see how it goes. 00:03:36.310 --> 00:03:40.490 And in case of, you know, if if if all goes well, it's gonna be a foster failure. 00:03:41.275 --> 00:03:43.515 Heather: I didn't hear any of that because I've literally just 00:03:43.515 --> 00:03:45.775 kicked off to hang the front door, 00:03:46.795 --> 00:03:47.535 Anke: reel off. 00:03:48.680 --> 00:03:52.920 So, basically, the initial plan was, let's just bring her in, see how it 00:03:52.920 --> 00:03:56.200 goes, and, you know, if all goes well, it's gonna be a positive failure. 00:03:56.200 --> 00:03:56.600 I'm just 00:03:56.600 --> 00:03:57.340 Heather: gonna stay. 00:03:58.265 --> 00:03:59.705 Um, was it that? 00:03:59.705 --> 00:04:00.185 No. 00:04:00.185 --> 00:04:04.525 Actually, because of the circumstances of this particular dog, Sparky, 00:04:06.370 --> 00:04:13.010 He's, uh, about 3 and a half, and his story um, Tessie's from a 00:04:13.010 --> 00:04:15.030 rescue called Sadie's dog rescue. 00:04:15.705 --> 00:04:18.745 And I've supported them ever since I got Tessie. 00:04:18.745 --> 00:04:18.985 Right? 00:04:18.985 --> 00:04:23.550 Because it was really, it was the first opportunity or Place I really 00:04:23.550 --> 00:04:25.490 started to trust and love another thing. 00:04:27.150 --> 00:04:29.870 Um, so it was like it was always a supporter of them. 00:04:29.870 --> 00:04:33.925 I did, Um, do you a big spaathon with them and volunteer to do 00:04:33.925 --> 00:04:37.465 that out in, um, Romania, which is where they rescue their dogs. 00:04:38.300 --> 00:04:41.900 Um, and, unfortunately, for Sparky's situation, he was put 00:04:41.980 --> 00:04:46.060 surrendered by his previous owners, um, because he wasn't getting on 00:04:46.060 --> 00:04:48.665 with the resident dog, Um, so much. 00:04:48.665 --> 00:04:53.945 And he was very reactive, um, and not necessarily in a really good place. 00:04:53.945 --> 00:04:58.820 So after him being there for 3 years, Um, they surrendered him just before 00:04:59.060 --> 00:05:03.480 I think it was November last year, and he actually was put in kennels, 00:05:03.940 --> 00:05:06.200 like, an hour away from my house. 00:05:07.035 --> 00:05:10.715 So it was more circumstantial, like, when he showed up and they asked 00:05:10.715 --> 00:05:12.495 for, like, an emergency foster. 00:05:13.035 --> 00:05:16.690 Um, I'd already filled out, like, Applications for them, and 00:05:16.690 --> 00:05:20.530 I already work as, like, a home checker for the charity anyway. 00:05:20.530 --> 00:05:24.675 So I said, oh, do you think, you know, that We could be considered. 00:05:24.975 --> 00:05:29.615 Like, do you think because it was perfect because it meant that I could let Tessie 00:05:29.615 --> 00:05:32.415 meet him before having him in the house. 00:05:32.415 --> 00:05:36.480 Whereas if I just Had 1 that was rescued from Romania straight away, 00:05:36.480 --> 00:05:40.320 then it would just be, there's the dog, and keep my fingers crossed 00:05:40.320 --> 00:05:41.760 that Tessie would get on with it. 00:05:41.760 --> 00:05:42.125 You know? 00:05:42.765 --> 00:05:46.525 Um, but she was a decision maker in whether or not he was a go or not. 00:05:46.525 --> 00:05:52.580 So that's it was more circumstantial, um, than it was, Um, timing or any 00:05:52.580 --> 00:05:54.940 of those things really Thank you. 00:05:55.140 --> 00:05:57.640 That led me to this particular dog anyway. 00:05:58.555 --> 00:06:00.875 Anke: And so what was the experience like? 00:06:00.875 --> 00:06:05.435 Like, you know, like, I think what I'm curious about, was it 00:06:05.435 --> 00:06:07.135 what you thought it would be? 00:06:07.730 --> 00:06:10.790 And, you know, was it like, what was different? 00:06:10.850 --> 00:06:12.230 Like, what were the surprises? 00:06:13.010 --> 00:06:14.930 Good or bad and bad. 00:06:14.930 --> 00:06:15.430 Whatever. 00:06:16.755 --> 00:06:20.195 Heather: Well, the biggest surprise is I have no clue how much it 00:06:20.195 --> 00:06:24.375 would really, um, deepen my current relationship with my partner. 00:06:27.670 --> 00:06:28.150 Yeah. 00:06:28.150 --> 00:06:34.205 Um, not only that deep in the relationship I have with fear, Um, or my own kind of 00:06:34.205 --> 00:06:37.025 emotions and feelings, um, and energy. 00:06:38.445 --> 00:06:45.520 Um, I also have no idea How fulfilling it would be, you know, to watch someone come 00:06:45.520 --> 00:06:50.915 from being really scared of everything, um, Um, and not wanting to leave the house 00:06:50.915 --> 00:06:57.710 to I mean, this morning just this morning, I had the kindest guy, um, wanting To 00:06:57.710 --> 00:07:01.470 meet the foster dog, even though I said, look, he's not necessarily the best 00:07:01.470 --> 00:07:04.350 with males, like, he but he was patient. 00:07:04.350 --> 00:07:06.270 He was kind, and and he did. 00:07:06.270 --> 00:07:11.155 Like, he got a stroke From Sparky, and I was like, well, that's a milestone. 00:07:11.375 --> 00:07:12.035 You know? 00:07:12.415 --> 00:07:15.475 Um, I think he's being in this 10 weeks Saturday. 00:07:15.615 --> 00:07:21.510 So, You know, the the kind of the lows, um, I think how exhausting 00:07:21.510 --> 00:07:25.955 it is in the beginning to really manage and Get to know each other. 00:07:26.495 --> 00:07:29.855 Um, I think that's the biggest, like, noticing the signs when 00:07:29.855 --> 00:07:35.120 something wasn't quite right or when he was gonna react, Noticing Wade 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:37.300 kind of had too much needed rest. 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:43.445 So, yeah, there were And, also, you know, there were a few moments where 00:07:43.445 --> 00:07:48.745 he he didn't really take a liking to my partner, so that was not the best. 00:07:50.200 --> 00:07:55.580 So, um, navigating all of that and and and also, you know, coming out the other side. 00:07:58.065 --> 00:07:58.565 Wow. 00:07:59.345 --> 00:08:00.405 I'm so changed. 00:08:00.465 --> 00:08:00.965 Right? 00:08:01.265 --> 00:08:05.740 Um, so that was the biggest unexpected kind of Amazing. 00:08:05.740 --> 00:08:06.460 It's interesting. 00:08:06.460 --> 00:08:06.960 That's 00:08:07.020 --> 00:08:07.500 Anke: fascinating. 00:08:07.500 --> 00:08:09.180 It's not kind see, this is like yeah. 00:08:09.180 --> 00:08:11.660 I love this because it's not kind of what you'd normally expect. 00:08:11.660 --> 00:08:14.960 Like, you wouldn't expect that it's, um, yeah. 00:08:15.100 --> 00:08:15.935 I mean, I don't know. 00:08:15.935 --> 00:08:19.455 Like, it just reminds me when when, like, my second dog you 00:08:19.455 --> 00:08:22.995 know, when a 1 dog household turns into a multi dog household? 00:08:23.055 --> 00:08:23.160 Yeah. 00:08:23.240 --> 00:08:24.200 It's a bigger change 00:08:24.200 --> 00:08:24.840 Heather: than you think. 00:08:24.840 --> 00:08:25.400 All that. 00:08:25.400 --> 00:08:25.900 Yeah. 00:08:26.120 --> 00:08:26.520 Mhmm. 00:08:26.520 --> 00:08:27.260 So true. 00:08:27.480 --> 00:08:27.800 Yeah. 00:08:27.800 --> 00:08:30.540 Just having 2 instead of 1 to care for. 00:08:30.705 --> 00:08:31.025 Yeah. 00:08:31.025 --> 00:08:31.665 And it's the 00:08:31.665 --> 00:08:33.585 Anke: relationship between them as well. 00:08:33.585 --> 00:08:36.645 How do like, what's the testing of all of this? 00:08:37.830 --> 00:08:41.830 Heather: In the beginning, I think she was kind of happy that she had someone to 00:08:41.830 --> 00:08:48.525 zoom around the garden with, not happy to share food or sofa cuddles or me, like, 00:08:48.525 --> 00:08:54.465 specifically, um, or even, like, time in in the office, like, here chilling. 00:08:55.310 --> 00:08:57.790 Um, so, yeah, there was a lot of adjustments for her. 00:08:57.790 --> 00:09:02.050 And, like, I wanna say, Tessie, my resident dog, her leadership 00:09:02.365 --> 00:09:04.545 Has also been so amazing. 00:09:06.365 --> 00:09:10.445 Um, I think to have a foster dog and not a resident dog that can kind of 00:09:10.445 --> 00:09:15.370 teach them or Educate them about some of the do's and don'ts around the house 00:09:15.370 --> 00:09:17.310 without having it being me all the time. 00:09:17.610 --> 00:09:20.590 It's phenomenal to watch that as well, to be honest. 00:09:21.775 --> 00:09:23.055 Anke: That that is so true. 00:09:23.055 --> 00:09:26.895 Like, actually, it's an experience I've had with with the with my puppy. 00:09:26.895 --> 00:09:28.095 Well, she's not a puppy anymore. 00:09:28.095 --> 00:09:31.550 But, You know, the sec my second dog, like, literally taught you everything. 00:09:31.550 --> 00:09:34.590 It's easy as puppy to raise, but I didn't have to do anything. 00:09:34.590 --> 00:09:38.995 So it's like She did it all, and she kinda put up with all the puppy 00:09:38.995 --> 00:09:41.315 antics and and taught her whatever. 00:09:41.315 --> 00:09:42.695 It's it's, yeah, it's remarkable. 00:09:43.315 --> 00:09:49.510 So What did you like, is there something specific you did or, like, how did 00:09:49.510 --> 00:09:54.055 you go about helping Have a relax. 00:09:55.555 --> 00:09:59.395 Heather: Um, I lit literally took care of myself, um, in terms of, 00:09:59.395 --> 00:10:01.800 like, what What's going on with me? 00:10:01.860 --> 00:10:04.680 Um, started every day as a new day. 00:10:04.820 --> 00:10:10.955 Um, really didn't try my to kind of remove, release, kind of, um, not 00:10:10.955 --> 00:10:16.730 bring what happened in the past into the future, um, or cloud my kind of 00:10:16.730 --> 00:10:18.870 opinion or thoughts about the dog. 00:10:21.330 --> 00:10:25.330 And I guess I said this to someone actually the other week with a client. 00:10:25.330 --> 00:10:28.575 I was Speaking to them about fear, and and I said to him, look. 00:10:28.575 --> 00:10:32.575 If I showed up to that dog with any fear in me, you know, then he 00:10:32.575 --> 00:10:36.340 would be fearful all the time, and it was like I had to start every 00:10:36.340 --> 00:10:38.360 day completely in love with him. 00:10:38.900 --> 00:10:43.935 Um, and, obviously, for me to do that, I had to really Stay completely in love 00:10:43.935 --> 00:10:48.415 with myself and not, like, beat myself up if something didn't go according to plan 00:10:48.415 --> 00:10:54.830 or, You know, if there was an incident that I didn't manage correctly or, um, if 00:10:54.830 --> 00:10:58.830 I didn't notice the signs in him, um, you know, and then he'd kind of have a little 00:10:58.830 --> 00:11:03.135 nip at my partner, Tell my partner off for being in his space and doing something 00:11:03.135 --> 00:11:07.375 wrong and because really, you know, it it I think you shared it the other week. 00:11:07.375 --> 00:11:10.470 It's like, You know, it's only because they're having a hard 00:11:10.470 --> 00:11:14.170 time understanding and not being able to read or know what to do. 00:11:14.310 --> 00:11:18.105 And it's like when you get into that place of realizing, like, it's not personal, all 00:11:18.105 --> 00:11:20.025 like they're not doing anything to you. 00:11:20.025 --> 00:11:26.285 It's just that they're just confused, and everything's new and, uh, like, 00:11:26.505 --> 00:11:32.970 adds adds, like, Having more space as well because this dog was kept 00:11:32.970 --> 00:11:34.810 creative for 3 years pretty much. 00:11:34.810 --> 00:11:37.550 Only had the house or the garden to kind of explore. 00:11:38.305 --> 00:11:38.905 So it's wild. 00:11:38.905 --> 00:11:41.905 It was very small in the beginning, so it's like, hold on a minute. 00:11:41.905 --> 00:11:49.830 If I was, let's say, Going to work for my first day at a new job, it would be 00:11:49.990 --> 00:11:53.430 you'd be exhausted by the end of the day because of all the stuff you've got 00:11:53.430 --> 00:11:58.455 taken and learned, and it's the Same same for for taking on a foster dog, 00:11:58.455 --> 00:12:00.395 especially in the past 2 or 3 weeks. 00:12:00.775 --> 00:12:01.175 Anke: Yeah. 00:12:01.175 --> 00:12:05.000 I mean, I I like, I think if 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:07.580 Heather: somebody Tessie's barking from the camera. 00:12:10.120 --> 00:12:15.395 Anke: I think if if people just Took away this 1 thing, you know, 00:12:15.395 --> 00:12:19.335 to remember that the dog never does anything just to piss you off. 00:12:19.475 --> 00:12:19.975 Yeah. 00:12:20.160 --> 00:12:22.660 I think that that alone is a game changer. 00:12:23.040 --> 00:12:23.540 Heather: Yeah. 00:12:24.800 --> 00:12:25.120 Yeah. 00:12:25.120 --> 00:12:25.760 Hundred percent. 00:12:25.760 --> 00:12:27.845 Nothing they do, they don't mean it. 00:12:28.485 --> 00:12:31.205 Um, and, obviously, I told you, you know, there was lots 00:12:31.205 --> 00:12:32.905 of lessons I learned from it. 00:12:33.045 --> 00:12:38.280 And this, you know, 1 specifically, it's You know, they're they're 00:12:39.540 --> 00:12:41.780 they're a soul just like we are. 00:12:41.780 --> 00:12:42.280 Right? 00:12:42.500 --> 00:12:46.805 So, you know, if we want to Past judgment on them or if we want to 00:12:46.805 --> 00:12:49.945 write them off because of certain behaviors that they're displaying. 00:12:50.165 --> 00:12:53.465 It's like, well, where are you displaying those behaviors in yourself? 00:12:54.790 --> 00:12:55.290 Right? 00:12:55.830 --> 00:12:56.550 You know? 00:12:56.550 --> 00:13:04.585 So it was such big, big movement in our household around Well, if I'm coming 00:13:04.585 --> 00:13:08.665 in every day from a place of love, where are you coming in from, dear? 00:13:08.665 --> 00:13:09.325 You know? 00:13:10.420 --> 00:13:13.540 You know, if they love me and they're kind of reacting to you, 00:13:13.540 --> 00:13:14.920 like, what is it you're not? 00:13:15.540 --> 00:13:18.420 What's the behavior displaying that's suggesting to them 00:13:18.420 --> 00:13:19.960 that that you don't love them? 00:13:20.725 --> 00:13:21.125 Right. 00:13:21.125 --> 00:13:25.945 You know, it's that type of conversation that are difficult conversations and also 00:13:26.805 --> 00:13:29.900 very Exact conversations at the same time. 00:13:30.040 --> 00:13:31.560 Anke: That is so true, though, isn't it? 00:13:31.560 --> 00:13:32.680 Like, you know, I don't know. 00:13:32.680 --> 00:13:36.485 For the, um, you know, for the for the Panic to peace someone. 00:13:36.485 --> 00:13:40.665 I spoke to all these people, and there was this, you know, 1 red thread 00:13:40.725 --> 00:13:42.185 throughout all the conversations. 00:13:42.325 --> 00:13:45.510 Like, you can Bullshit another person. 00:13:45.510 --> 00:13:46.870 You cannot bullshit at all. 00:13:46.870 --> 00:13:47.270 Right? 00:13:47.270 --> 00:13:48.710 They read they read you. 00:13:48.710 --> 00:13:51.750 Like, they see through like, you can say whatever you want. 00:13:51.750 --> 00:13:53.965 You can Body language, like, no. 00:13:53.965 --> 00:13:54.045 No. 00:13:54.045 --> 00:13:54.285 No. 00:13:54.285 --> 00:13:54.525 No. 00:13:54.525 --> 00:13:57.405 They see they they feel what's really going on. 00:13:57.405 --> 00:13:58.685 Like, you cannot trick a dog. 00:13:58.685 --> 00:13:59.185 Right? 00:14:00.340 --> 00:14:00.900 Heather: Oh my god. 00:14:00.900 --> 00:14:02.740 And that's completely the thing. 00:14:02.740 --> 00:14:07.380 Like, every human being wants to really be seen and really be heard, right, and 00:14:07.380 --> 00:14:11.775 acknowledged for that without Be made to feel that there's anything wrong with 00:14:11.775 --> 00:14:14.335 them, um, or have it played back to them. 00:14:14.335 --> 00:14:14.835 Right? 00:14:14.975 --> 00:14:16.735 And it's the same with the dog. 00:14:16.735 --> 00:14:21.620 Like, But in the sense that they do really see, like, you and they 00:14:21.620 --> 00:14:25.960 really know you and, like, there's definitely no getting away from that. 00:14:26.145 --> 00:14:29.665 And it's like when you surrender though to that, when you know, 00:14:29.665 --> 00:14:34.780 like, that they know you inside and out, Then you're like, what? 00:14:34.840 --> 00:14:39.000 Like, this is literally a mirror of me walking around showing me exactly what 00:14:39.000 --> 00:14:41.080 I am and what I'm not and who I'm being. 00:14:41.080 --> 00:14:42.995 And And it's like, oh my god. 00:14:42.995 --> 00:14:44.355 This is gold. 00:14:44.355 --> 00:14:45.015 You know? 00:14:45.795 --> 00:14:46.195 Yeah. 00:14:46.195 --> 00:14:46.515 There's, 00:14:46.515 --> 00:14:49.360 Anke: you know, there's a book by Kevin Beam, Your Dog is Your Mirror. 00:14:49.360 --> 00:14:49.600 Right? 00:14:49.600 --> 00:14:53.920 It's really fascinating because it catches, like, you know, all 00:14:53.920 --> 00:14:55.620 the different, like, each dog. 00:14:56.000 --> 00:14:56.160 Mhmm. 00:14:56.160 --> 00:14:58.205 Because my initial thing last night, yeah, of course, also 00:14:58.205 --> 00:14:59.085 this, but then it's like, yeah. 00:14:59.085 --> 00:15:00.225 But now I have 3. 00:15:00.285 --> 00:15:00.765 You know? 00:15:00.765 --> 00:15:02.205 Like, how and they're all different. 00:15:02.205 --> 00:15:02.445 Right? 00:15:02.445 --> 00:15:03.885 How can they all be a mirror? 00:15:03.885 --> 00:15:07.505 And and, yes, they can because they all mirror different aspects. 00:15:08.030 --> 00:15:08.350 You know? 00:15:08.350 --> 00:15:11.650 It's really it's really fascinating, and it's absolutely true. 00:15:11.950 --> 00:15:12.450 Yeah. 00:15:12.670 --> 00:15:18.625 So so given the experience you've had so far, you know, What's the plan? 00:15:18.625 --> 00:15:23.365 Like, I mean, are you do you already know how long you keep him? 00:15:23.425 --> 00:15:25.925 How long how much longer he's gonna stay with you? 00:15:26.520 --> 00:15:28.060 Would you do it again? 00:15:28.520 --> 00:15:30.600 Would you, like, consider keeping him? 00:15:30.600 --> 00:15:33.340 Like, so what's what are your thoughts with that at the moment? 00:15:35.645 --> 00:15:36.125 Heather: Okay. 00:15:36.125 --> 00:15:37.965 So the the none. 00:15:37.965 --> 00:15:40.945 There isn't any clear answer to those questions. 00:15:42.090 --> 00:15:43.370 Um, you know, I'm not gonna lie. 00:15:43.370 --> 00:15:47.870 I have to say, you know, I have the support of the the rescue director, like, 00:15:48.010 --> 00:15:53.605 on the phone if I needed them, And I had a behaviorist on speed dial for the first 6 00:15:53.605 --> 00:15:58.805 weeks pretty much, and and I had meltdowns every week for the first 6 weeks. 00:15:58.805 --> 00:15:59.125 Right? 00:15:59.125 --> 00:16:02.810 Because There's just there's so unpredictable. 00:16:03.190 --> 00:16:04.330 You can't plan. 00:16:04.470 --> 00:16:04.950 Right? 00:16:04.950 --> 00:16:05.930 You don't know. 00:16:06.550 --> 00:16:09.715 Now Probably 2 weeks ago. 00:16:09.775 --> 00:16:13.295 Like, literally, I wrote the post for them to advertise for him to 00:16:13.295 --> 00:16:15.555 have his find his forever home. 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:16.080 Right. 00:16:16.080 --> 00:16:19.940 Because it was that much, so much, like, to manage. 00:16:20.880 --> 00:16:25.755 And then since, like, there's It's been another big change corner turned, 00:16:26.135 --> 00:16:30.375 um, because like us humans, like, there's massive protests, isn't there? 00:16:30.375 --> 00:16:33.030 Or a big fight before we come out the other side. 00:16:33.330 --> 00:16:36.610 Um, and so that big fight happened a couple of weeks ago, and I 00:16:36.610 --> 00:16:39.995 was like, honestly, this is just gonna like, I've given up. 00:16:40.395 --> 00:16:43.855 And then as that minute happened within the day, everything's 00:16:44.075 --> 00:16:45.455 completely shifted again. 00:16:45.995 --> 00:16:49.035 Um, so it's like a roller coaster, but a roller coaster that there 00:16:49.035 --> 00:16:51.660 is still Upgoing upness going on. 00:16:51.660 --> 00:16:55.280 Like, you're still, you know, moving, um, and evolving up. 00:16:55.660 --> 00:17:01.365 So I think the plan is to get him into a place Where he is very attractive 00:17:01.665 --> 00:17:09.180 to, um, being adopted forever by somebody who Has a more quieter life. 00:17:09.180 --> 00:17:16.795 Um, someone who has quite a basic simple life that he can slot right into and Not 00:17:16.795 --> 00:17:18.955 have too many things going on at once. 00:17:18.955 --> 00:17:19.615 You know? 00:17:20.555 --> 00:17:24.530 Um, and as I couldn't purely because This house isn't finished. 00:17:24.530 --> 00:17:26.450 You know, there's still work that needs to be done. 00:17:26.450 --> 00:17:28.390 That sets him up a little bit sometimes. 00:17:29.090 --> 00:17:33.955 Um, and we can have a quiet life for a while, and it's like, And he could 00:17:33.955 --> 00:17:36.135 have and deserves a quiet life forever. 00:17:36.355 --> 00:17:37.315 Do do you see what I mean? 00:17:37.315 --> 00:17:37.815 Yeah. 00:17:38.035 --> 00:17:41.210 So I think I've never answered this question before. 00:17:41.210 --> 00:17:44.330 So I think the long and short of it actually, Anky, thanks for letting 00:17:44.330 --> 00:17:49.545 me see this, is, like, he deserves to have the best Forever home. 00:17:50.165 --> 00:17:55.705 Um, and our situation and the fact that we move quite a lot right now 00:17:55.840 --> 00:17:58.240 It's probably not the best for him. 00:17:58.240 --> 00:18:01.920 However, I'm committed to getting him to the best place 00:18:01.920 --> 00:18:03.360 so that he can find the best. 00:18:03.360 --> 00:18:04.020 You know? 00:18:04.675 --> 00:18:05.075 I love 00:18:05.075 --> 00:18:05.395 Anke: that. 00:18:05.395 --> 00:18:06.035 I love that. 00:18:06.035 --> 00:18:07.735 So would you would you do it again? 00:18:08.275 --> 00:18:09.255 Heather: Hundred percent. 00:18:09.555 --> 00:18:12.775 I mean, this is just the start of my journey because probably 00:18:13.315 --> 00:18:19.380 7 weeks And even my partner was like, why why did you do this? 00:18:19.380 --> 00:18:22.500 Heather, like crazy. 00:18:22.500 --> 00:18:25.445 And I was like, sat there going, I I think I am crazy. 00:18:25.445 --> 00:18:25.685 Yeah. 00:18:25.685 --> 00:18:26.825 Why did I do this? 00:18:27.125 --> 00:18:30.105 And then, like, I literally found myself floored. 00:18:30.165 --> 00:18:31.125 I was out walking. 00:18:31.125 --> 00:18:33.385 He didn't wanna come that morning for a walk. 00:18:34.150 --> 00:18:39.130 So I was just with Tessie, and, um, I was like, of course, this is happening. 00:18:39.670 --> 00:18:42.090 Because it's part of my kind of vision. 00:18:42.150 --> 00:18:47.035 I want Uh, Wealth of You Lodge where I can bring rescue all types of 00:18:47.035 --> 00:18:51.775 different animals that need support and transformation, and people can come. 00:18:52.570 --> 00:18:56.190 Group of cottages, luxury, like, it's all part of my vision. 00:18:56.330 --> 00:18:59.150 So this is literally just the start of that. 00:19:00.795 --> 00:19:03.215 You know, he's the first 1. 00:19:03.915 --> 00:19:05.595 Um, and it's funny. 00:19:05.595 --> 00:19:08.670 I also told myself, Heather, Skinning the dog doesn't mean that you 00:19:08.670 --> 00:19:11.470 have to bring in 1 that's really fearful and aggressive either. 00:19:11.470 --> 00:19:15.710 You could rescue 1 that's got disabilities or, you know, so, like, 00:19:15.710 --> 00:19:18.605 the range so fast that I'm like, no. 00:19:18.605 --> 00:19:20.145 This is just the first 1. 00:19:20.765 --> 00:19:22.445 Don't don't tell my fellow, though. 00:19:22.445 --> 00:19:22.945 Right? 00:19:25.110 --> 00:19:26.310 Anke: We're not gonna you know? 00:19:26.310 --> 00:19:26.630 No. 00:19:26.630 --> 00:19:28.570 You just don't don't share that episode. 00:19:28.710 --> 00:19:34.165 But it makes it makes All the sense in the world. 00:19:34.165 --> 00:19:37.385 Like, you know, you said at the beginning, you're about transformation. 00:19:37.845 --> 00:19:38.085 Right? 00:19:38.085 --> 00:19:40.370 So there's almost like, Yeah. 00:19:40.370 --> 00:19:43.890 This dog's gonna be with you whoever, you know, is is gonna be 00:19:43.890 --> 00:19:45.510 with you for the transformation. 00:19:46.210 --> 00:19:46.610 Mhmm. 00:19:46.610 --> 00:19:47.010 You know? 00:19:47.010 --> 00:19:51.315 So and when they're ready to you know, I Absolutely love it. 00:19:51.315 --> 00:19:56.515 So if, you know, somebody needs their own con transformation or, you know, 00:19:56.515 --> 00:20:00.900 wants to get in touch with you and find out more about what you do And and your 00:20:00.900 --> 00:20:03.560 vision with the cottages and all of that because that sounds delightful. 00:20:03.940 --> 00:20:07.380 Um, where can people go and find out more and get in touch 00:20:07.380 --> 00:20:08.040 Heather: with you? 00:20:08.735 --> 00:20:11.235 Oh, I love connecting with people on Facebook. 00:20:11.535 --> 00:20:13.555 It's just simple Heather Eggington. 00:20:14.895 --> 00:20:16.595 Um, I'm also on LinkedIn. 00:20:17.620 --> 00:20:19.960 Um, probably more professional stuff on LinkedIn. 00:20:20.500 --> 00:20:24.580 Um, and they can also subscribe to my website if they wanna get involved with 00:20:24.580 --> 00:20:30.055 more vulnerable, open kind of Share stories like this 1 today, for example. 00:20:30.055 --> 00:20:33.575 I did share a bit of my fostering dog journey with them. 00:20:33.575 --> 00:20:36.215 I actually said that I've got the biggest challenging client 00:20:36.215 --> 00:20:38.480 yet, Um, I think was the title. 00:20:38.480 --> 00:20:38.800 Right? 00:20:38.800 --> 00:20:45.040 So, um, so they can go to my website, which is also heather eggington dot com. 00:20:45.040 --> 00:20:50.745 So They can find me there, um, and connect however they wish. 00:20:52.005 --> 00:20:52.565 Um, Yeah. 00:20:52.565 --> 00:20:53.900 Just Even Obviously, 00:20:53.900 --> 00:20:56.460 Anke: the links are gonna be, you know, in the show notes below this 00:20:56.460 --> 00:20:59.740 video if you'll, uh, watching on the you know, through the newsletter. 00:20:59.740 --> 00:21:02.080 So it's gonna make easy to find you. 00:21:02.825 --> 00:21:03.465 Heather: Oh, thank you. 00:21:03.465 --> 00:21:04.185 Thanks so much 00:21:04.185 --> 00:21:06.765 Anke: for sharing this because it's like, I'm always fascinated 00:21:06.825 --> 00:21:07.965 with people who foster. 00:21:08.505 --> 00:21:12.140 So it's the first time that I had, like, a chance to dig in there and and find 00:21:12.140 --> 00:21:13.900 out what's going on behind the scenes. 00:21:13.900 --> 00:21:15.020 So thank you for sharing 00:21:15.020 --> 00:21:15.520 Heather: that. 00:21:15.980 --> 00:21:16.300 No. 00:21:16.300 --> 00:21:18.700 Honest Anky, honestly, thank you. 00:21:18.700 --> 00:21:22.845 Like, Some of the questions, I haven't really sat with myself on. 00:21:22.985 --> 00:21:26.570 So just the fact that you really brought them to the table and And 00:21:26.570 --> 00:21:30.090 allowed me to really just express what was coming through in that moment. 00:21:30.090 --> 00:21:30.910 This is brilliant. 00:21:31.130 --> 00:21:33.130 And for getting the dogs to sleep. 00:21:33.130 --> 00:21:33.630 Right? 00:21:36.885 --> 00:21:36.965 Anke: Yeah. 00:21:36.965 --> 00:21:41.365 I mean, I think this is like the that's the I don't know whether you've 00:21:41.365 --> 00:21:42.740 heard of the the trust technique. 00:21:42.740 --> 00:21:44.340 Like, that's that's what this is all about. 00:21:44.340 --> 00:21:47.700 Like, the present moment, and I think when we're both really present, the 00:21:47.700 --> 00:21:49.380 dog drop, the dog's drop around you. 00:21:49.380 --> 00:21:51.095 Like, it's it's Reliable. 00:21:52.195 --> 00:21:53.095 They don't promise. 00:21:54.515 --> 00:21:55.335 We are. 00:21:55.395 --> 00:21:56.135 We are. 00:21:56.275 --> 00:21:56.775 Done. 00:21:56.915 --> 00:21:57.415 Awesome. 00:21:57.475 --> 00:21:58.535 Well, thank you. 00:21:59.449 --> 00:22:00.109 Heather: Oh, my. 00:22:00.649 --> 00:22:01.549 Thank you, love. 00:22:02.044 --> 00:22:02.844 Heather Egginton 00:22:03.124 --> 00:22:04.354 Thanks so much for listening. 00:22:04.874 --> 00:22:09.174 If you enjoyed the episode, don't forget to subscribe, and leave a review so 00:22:09.274 --> 00:22:11.054 other dog lovers can find the show. 00:22:11.844 --> 00:22:15.334 If you haven't already, head over to soul touched by dogs. 00:22:15.764 --> 00:22:21.334 com and sign up for weekly doggy cuteness tips, recommendations, and personal 00:22:21.434 --> 00:22:23.804 stories to warm your dog loving heart. 00:22:23.804 --> 00:22:27.534 And if you know a pawsome human you think I should interview, 00:22:27.954 --> 00:22:29.094 I'd love an introduction. 00:22:29.574 --> 00:22:31.404 Email me at Anke. 00:22:31.674 --> 00:22:35.909 That's A N k E at Soul touched by dogs.com.