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Marketers need sales.
We also need to listen to them. While I would say Jordan has a high marketing acumen, his day job is cold email (outbound).
And it’s so much more than simply cold email. It’s a different way to approach it.
“Outbound B2B systems that target by PAIN, not persona.” I love his intense focus on customer pain.
This is a direct and contrarian conversation you don’t want to miss.
Jordan explores:
– Marketing to the pain and not the persona
– The importance of saying no to the wrong markets
– Why you need ANTI personas
Who's this episode for?
(1) B2B marketers and founders
(2) Marketers who want to understand how to speak to pain
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What is On Marketing?
What is marketing?
Have you ever had that thought before? No? Well, I have. Quite a bit, weirdly.
Oh, hey there, I'm Jordan 👋. I'm a man from Wisconsin on a Frodo-like journey to discover what marketing is. Like, really is.
Not the fluff. Or the hype tactics. The real stuff.
Strategy. Processes. First principles.
The things that ACTUALLY help a company grow and win.
Everything I wish I had learned when I started in 2017. I hope to shorten that learning curve for you.
I ask two questions on each episode
- What is the job marketing should get done in a company?
- What is the job/purpose of life?
This podcast is for me to learn from some of the best marketers on this planet, and hopefully, you can pick up some wisdom too.
I hope you join me on this journey!