Oh, Joyce. What's going on?
We have a special guest here.
Who was.
A gentleman I've worked with many, many times over the years.
For the premiere facilities and.
Well, I was going to say the shrine, but I think all the state of Connecticut.
Right. My limited.
Wait a minute.
The shoreline. The tri state.
The tri state area.
Why not?
Why not nationally?
Why not so popular?
Why not universally?
Even the Klingons, when they have weddings.
And the Romulans and Star Trek, where do they go?
Woodwinds. And Branford. Yeah, exactly.
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Special guest owner of woodwinds in Branford, Connecticut.
Tony. Super. Hey, Tony.
Hey, thanks for having me, guys, I appreciate it.
We're back again. Back again.
And had so much fun the first time for quite an episode.
We had Tony on before.
It was great because we had pasta and meatballs served to us
courtesy of Tony was We also Jovian busses.
Yeah. Awesome. Awesome.
Yeah, but today we're at Woodlands in Branford.
We are there.
But tell us, Tony, a little bit about, you know, your venue here in woodwinds,
how you got the start and a little bit about that.
So woodwinds was around about 1990.
We purchased it.
My dad and I actually, my family, we're looking forward to getting to the wedding.
And in that business, we always had restaurants, you know, since 1972,
we had, the Monica's in New Haven.
My family also at the palms in downtown New Haven, Valentino's.
And he used. To play music there at the.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, and then, he moved to cafe, library and Madison,
and then we started doing some catering out of there and some events and,
you know, we I really enjoyed I got older, so I want to get more involved.
So, we started looking for an event venue, and we landed,
you know, here in about 2006.
And we've owned ever since.
You know, we've been here so many times with our business as well.
And every time we come here, we're treated like family.
Yep. I love that, you know, we're here.
Whatever you need.
And you just treat the vendors with such respect.
Yeah. And that goes a long way.
There's a lot of word of mouth on the street when you go through,
when you're treated with, you know the utmost.
You know, curly, you.
Know, we sure do.
We treat all the vendors like they're, you know, family.
A part of the Woodman's family.
Yeah. You're right.
A lot of places don't do that.
And it's just, you know, we're just not like that.
Well, you're always winning awards for service and, food.
Yeah. You know?
Yeah. Award winning food.
So go back a little bit.
Wasn't this a dream of your dad's like to
to have, a venue like this?
So my dad always wanted to get into this end of it.
I mean, we always had restaurants, like, all the car restaurants, but,
his dream was
always to get into the events and weddings and things like that.
So, you know, it's
it was hard having the restaurants to branch out into something else.
So once we got older, you know, the family expanded.
He had the manpower to do that, you know, and then, you know,
I always worked with him and trained with him.
So, I had that knowledge.
Then after I graduated college, that's kind of when we started
looking and got into it. So.
What was it like working with your dad?
Working with the family business?
It can go either way sometimes.
Not so with me. It was a wonderful experience.
I my dad was, like, my best friend.
So, I mean, I just loved hanging out with him,
you know, like, being able to work with him was the best thing ever for me.
He always had that smile.
Oh, whenever you see my dad.
And he made you feel like family.
Even if you were a stranger coming in, they didn't quite know you.
It was like they still had that.
That just quick way of ushering in and making.
Exactly. Yeah, yeah.
I was lucky enough to know your dad and work along with them.
He was awesome. Yeah. Just incredible.
Yeah. I mean, I miss him a lot now.
Working with him were some of the best days of my life.
I actually when we came here, we had to split up
because obviously he had to stay at a coffee lake.
We I came here, so I wasn't with him all the time,
and I missed him a lot even back then, just being in the kitchen with him and,
you know, working with him, you know, from night, from day to night.
We still saw each other every day,
but it wasn't quite the same as were in two different locations.
And then, you know, unfortunately, Gary passed away young,
you so he's only 69 and, you know, it.
Still miss him to this day?
Yeah.
Cafe Alegria, for those listening and indoor watching
right now who may not be familiar, it's over in the Madison Green.
And just a great place. Yeah, right.
Downtown. Great destination. Yeah.
So my mom, my brother still there.
You know, I'm here, this location, but I'm still going.
I think there is 1990, nine, I believe.
So 26 years.
And then here since 2006, almost 20 years here.
Now, Joyce says a lot about business nowadays because most businesses fail.
Yeah.
And what do you think
the key to your longevity is both with woodwinds and Cafe Alegre?
It's a lot of hard work.
I mean, that's number one.
You got to be able to put in the hours and the time,
you have to sacrifice a lot.
You know, there's a lot of things I like to do, obviously,
you know, personally things like that.
But you the business when you own a business like this, it does come first.
But being a family business is better because, you know, it's,
you get to do things with your family.
I mean, you're not, you know,
doing other things like leisure, but, you know, you're
working together, having a good time together, growing a business together.
So it comes along. It's really nice.
And you oversee everything.
I think that helps that you're very, very hands on.
Yeah, it's it's just I probably put more stress on myself that I need to.
So I do have a great team.
Yeah.
You know, the employees and managers I have here are amazing.
I do kind of oversee everything I wish.
I wish I didn't because I really don't need to, but I just
I'm very hands on, and, I just, you know, want to make sure everything was perfect.
Especially with the service and the food and, you know,
keeping that legacy of my dad, you know, that's how he would have run it.
That's kind of how I want to keep doing it. It's not.
I just curious about this.
When you're in college, you're this young guy in college.
Was this your dream to do this?
Did you think you would go this route?
So honestly,
I kind of didn't want to go into the film business when I was in school.
I went to school for, engineering first, actually, for a couple of years.
I went to college for mechanical engineering.
That was actually, like, what I was really into.
Wow. Sounds real like.
Yeah, it sounds kind of nerdy, but, like, I was really good at math.
And I got accepted to University of Hartford into engineering.
That helps some business. And. Yeah, like. Those.
So, and then I was always working with dad
part time during school, you know, like, every weekend I was there.
So are you. Doing homework at the restaurant?
Yeah. You know, exactly that.
Yeah. Right. Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
So we start back in, you know, grade school, high school.
Just to get the algebra book right there in the road, right? Right.
Yeah.
So, my dad was really good in math, too.
Maybe it's genetic. Who knows what's weird?
He's really good in math.
And, so working on my dad more and more,
I realized I wanted to, like, get into the family business with him.
So halfway through college, I changed my major to finance and accounting.
And, honestly, I kind of did it for just because it was easier.
Because I already did all the math prerequisites for engineering.
So I switched to counting and, and, finance.
I had all those math courses really taken, like,
so I didn't have to renew them over again. Yeah.
So that's kind of how I got into the business, degree and things like that.
So I ended up getting a double major in accounting and finance.
And then once I graduated, I started working my dad full time.
You do all. The accounting to for the business.
Actually. Did you have that background. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
That's that's what helps. Yeah I mean that.
No. Yeah.
Yeah. On top of everything else.
And I noticed too, you just,
you know, being here so many times myself, your employees, they take ownership.
They do everything they do.
You're talking about
you're only as good as the employees and the team you have around.
Exactly. Yep. I have an awesome team.
I mean, we have a lot of employees, but we have that core of the same employees
that have been here forever.
And big shout out to Kenny that,
I love that guy.
Yeah.
Yeah, he was here earlier, but,
Yeah, I mean, they care for just as if there were.
It was their own.
And, you know, we we keep each other on point and,
you know, take care of each other and, and work together hard.
So that's what keeps everything going.
Well, And,
The other thing is, isn't this one of the toughest businesses to be?
And not only are you dealing with food and keeping people happy,
but it's it's the emotions of the day. Yeah.
I mean, you're dealing with brides with weddings, people
who have so many different special events here.
So to be a therapist. Yeah. You do sometimes. Yeah.
Gosh. Yeah.
I mean, coming from the restaurant.
So I kind of know both sides of it. A lot of people don't.
Some people are either in the catering side or in the restaurant side, but,
they're both hard.
But this side, you do almost have to, you know, things like have to be a therapist
because it's okay. They're coming in to eat and have a party.
But it's also it's the most important. They're the lions.
It's the wedding, you know, hopefully it's just a one time thing.
High stress, high emotions.
Yeah.
You know, and, you just there's no redo, right?
So I could have to go. Perfect. And there's no way to redo it.
That's right.
So the level of stress on the staff to make sure everything goes right
is extremely high, too, just as the as the guests themselves.
So it's like, you know, we say it's like show business, you know, it's like,
yeah, yeah.
Once the curtains drawn, it's like there's no reduce,
it's live show, you know, it's lot.
And you always have to be as the owner of the business,
you always have to keep pumping people up. Yeah. Get them ready.
And just letting them know how important this is and they know it.
But they have to really know it. Yeah.
Reputation is everything. Exactly.
You know, you. Want the referrals. Yeah.
You want people to say, oh my God, I had this amazing event at woodwinds.
You've got to go.
Which is usually the case with the guy.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, word of mouth referrals is more important than anything.
Anything. You could spend as much money as you want to advertising.
But if you're not getting those, that word of mouth or those person reviews
or people telling their family and friends like it's not going to work.
Your reviews are stellar.
You know, I've read through them and they always say the same thing,
that they they treat you like family, that everything went perfectly.
Or if something went wrong,
your general manager, Randy, took care of this or that already.
Enough. Whatever.
He's awesome. Yeah.
I mean, he's been with me forever.
He started, as a teenager, just as a staff member.
Now he's, you know, the head manager.
So he pretty much runs, most of the operation for me.
I mean, he's and I mean, the best thing about that is he's been here forever.
He knows everything.
You know, he started from the bottom, worked his way up.
And it's it's hard to bring
in managers from outside because there's a certain culture in every business, so.
But when you grow up in it, you are part of the culture. You know,
you don't have to figure things out or, you know, change things around.
And I think I've always noticed about being a vendor,
I think what you guys really do, right, where a lot of people get it wrong,
is you make sure that you feed the vendors the first. Yes.
Yeah. Exactly.
That way when they're done, they're ready to work.
Yeah.
Too many times you go to another venue, they wait until the end.
Yeah. Everybody else is ready to get going.
You haven't eaten yet?
Yeah.
Your food
either goes cold, you got a box set up, or you don't have a chance to eat it.
You do it the right way.
Yeah, exactly.
And that's it seems like it's something that's kind of small.
Yeah, I think you. Yeah.
Because when we said my husband was a photographer.
Yeah.
And I know he worked a lot of weddings with you, did a lot together.
And he always kept coming to woodwinds because he knows that he would eat.
Yeah, exactly.
A lot of other places they don't. Yeah.
I mean, there's so much going on after dinner.
If you guys don't eat first, you get that out of the way,
you're never going to be able to right?
And, I mean, you're here. It's a long day.
Oh, you have a lot of work going.
I mean, it's it's an all day thing.
You need your. Energy.
That was actually to keep it going. Him?
Yeah.
And and, you know, so many different things like how to,
you have, like, sewing kits, you have stain remover,
all the things that people, I think don't think about that
could happen where the bride would say, oh, I've got something on my dress.
I just tore my dress, I was dancing. Yeah.
It's like you fix it.
Yeah. If you're prepared for anything.
And it's stocked up, like in the bathroom with all that.
Yeah. Everything people need.
Like you said, if they have a headache, if they need mouthwash. Yep.
It's all that's active.
And, you know, it seems like it'd be standard,
but it's not a lot of venues don't do that. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
So I mean it's like the staff having the solid staff like that,
like the core staff
you know helps a lot because they all know those things.
They all know that this is what we do.
This is how we take care of people.
You know, like you mentioned Randy and Ken, there's also Sergio,
who's been in the business a very long time.
He deals with the brides directly, you know, they have Sergio,
he does some of the weddings and then, you know, Randy does some of the other ones.
And also our head chef, Bill, we've known each other since he
he started working on my dad at the Monaco's.
Your father trained him.
You trained him directly? Yeah.
So he's our head chef now, which I bet works with him forever.
But what he.
Says a lot about you in this business, and that people stay so long for a.
Long time.
Yeah, yeah, but it's been it's been years.
And I mean, we're more brothers than, you know, like coworkers.
I mean, we know each other. I think I was like, great.
I was maybe like 14 or 15 and he was maybe like 20 when he started.
That's how long we known each other. Wow.
You think about back to the beginnings of woodwinds and now what has really changed
in the in the business, in the business,
because I know there's a lot more competition nowadays.
Yeah. As well.
I mean, sorry, I have to be on your game more.
You have to be able to change more rapidly.
I think that's,
you know, things like social
media and Pinterest, when Pinterest is popular,
those fads come a lot faster and go a lot faster.
Oh, wait, a lot faster.
Oh, they do wait.
So what they're seeing right there, they come in and say, I want this.
Yeah. So that happens a lot.
But it spreads a lot faster. Before it was just like word of mouth.
But now it's like you can see what somebody is doing
at a wedding in California, Italy or whatever.
Europe. It's not just what's a local like.
You're these new visions or whatever you want to call it,
are coming from all over the world, and you have to adapt to it immediately.
Yes. And they also go out of style really fast, too,
because the next thing is coming up. Yeah.
So what what is the is there a current fad going on right now that's different.
Right now really popular is like farm weddings which we got into.
So we're doing farm weddings.
So doing offsite catering.
So we do offsite catering.
You know, we do I just. I like doing it. Right. Wrong.
Yeah. So at a time right after Covid.
So during Covid, unfortunately we can use our building because of the,
you know, the temporary, bans on that with the guest counts and things.
So we, we would just do the weddings where we had to our doors.
So, I mean, we're doing it in people's homes, friends homes, farms.
We started doing the farms we rented tents with, doing them on our front lawn here.
We can use the building for months.
I remember doing a few weddings here out in the front lawn, I think.
Tents? Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah,
because the tents allowed us to have,
you know, kind of normal size running indoors.
It was like a 25 to 50 person max.
And I mean our minimums are 75.
So it was either that or close.
And you know that was an option.
We wanted to make sure everybody kept working. Yeah.
So we would go anywhere like wherever somebody if somebody's friend had a farm
or, you know, they would be able to rent one
and we would go everywhere and, you know, we were there.
Yeah. Yeah. Pretty.
Yeah. Yeah.
We were forced into it, unfortunately.
But we got really good at it.
So we kind of just kept going it.
Yeah. You know, there's no reason to stop at that point.
And I think that's kind of what got those outdoor weddings more popular
too, was during Covid, everybody was outdoors
and they ended up enjoying it more, you know.
And I think that too, you know, that since we live in such a now world,
what's happening? Everybody has cell phones. Yeah.
Everybody's taking pictures.
So you really have to be at the top of your game to as if somebody is rude.
Yeah, something's not happening.
They could put it all over social media right then and there.
And I teach my deejays to do the same thing.
You're always being monitored.
Yeah. You go there, you're in your best game.
Yeah. We're all about serving.
If somebody is rude and comes up to you, you kill them with kindness.
Yeah, I remember that.
Somebody all of a sudden, they can have the phone right on you.
Yeah, yeah, that's changed things a lot.
A lot.
Yeah. It's something.
No hiding the morning, John, is the.
Remember that your microphone in life is always on.
Right, right, right.
Mike is always on it. Yeah.
No matter where you go, you're representing your business as well,
whether you're there or not.
Just by the way you live your life. Yeah, exactly. Integrity.
And you and I talked about in tech that a lot,
you know, before the broadcast began today.
Yeah for. Sure.
You know, we had to talk about is how gorgeous this place is.
It is, first of all, it's, like, tucked away.
It's right off the highway. Yep.
And off of 95 by 95 in, Branford, Connecticut.
Yeah, but it's tucked away, and house is beautiful.
We call it the European manor feel to it.
And it's stunning.
Your grounds. You have to keep impeccable care.
Right on the grounds. A lot of work. Yes. A lot.
We actually, we have our own groundskeepers now.
We used to hire out companies, but,
you know, it's they have other jobs
I've seen to go to, so it's always hard to get somebody here all the time.
So we we just have full time.
I mean, in Sky, I mean versus. Grave.
Landscaper and we just take care of our own stuff
now beca and because it it's daily, you know, it's,
you constantly have to clean up and plant flowers and redo the ground.
So there's no, you can't miss a day or two because the next wedding is coming up,
you know? Right.
Those pictures are not up to par then that reflects badly on you.
And everybody sees that, and it's just not good.
If you go to the wood wince.com, you'll see a lot of those photos on there.
Yeah, yeah.
But again, I just love the idea that you've
ventured out because I love doing farm weddings too.
Yeah, that's a big, big deal nowadays. Yeah, they love that.
You know, rustic barn weddings are a big deal now.
Yeah, they really do love it.
Yeah, yeah.
Wonder what the next fad will be.
But, honestly, it's.
You used to be able to see stuff coming because things would come and go slowly.
Yeah. Now. Yeah.
Like no idea.
Like it just comes out of nowhere and then just.
It's just. Rapid fire. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah, yeah.
And it could be what a celebrity just did.
Exactly. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.
Okay.
Is there anything that we haven't hit yet that you'd like people to know about?
Wood winds?
What makes you so unique?
What makes you so special in the marketplace?
Oh, I guess I mean, the main thing would be the food.
Just because we, you know, we started in the,
restaurant business, all the restaurant business.
So it's definitely different than, like a banquet type of food. And,
you know, our, our chefs
all came from, you know, in shorthand with my dad, and I feel like.
Ray, when we came here, we brought that same type of thing.
So we try to give that,
you know, that made to order feel to even, like our banquets.
And I think we did pretty well with that.
You know, that is one of the things we hear the most.
And then, just like you said, the service we do go above and beyond.
There really isn't much that.
So we try not to do.
You know, there's if somebody needs something, we will make it happen.
So you know.
Yeah, that that's the thing.
I think people love the fact that people don't want to
hear, well, sorry, I can't do that. Yeah.
If there is a way we're going to make it happen. Yeah.
I mean, obviously you can't, you know, just make everything happen all the time.
But you want to say there's a way we're going to make it.
Yeah, exactly.
It's all how you respond. Exactly.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
So when you have met with a bride and groom, let's say,
did you ever think don't get married?
You two were never gonna.
Make, I mean, you know what.
I hate to say, but, yeah, it just like times out.
The best in the worst in a person.
During that time of stress of planning the wedding.
Yeah, I watch those hallmark movies.
I see the stress, even though they have a happy ending at the end.
Yeah, but there has to be times where you thought, oh, my God, definitely.
I mean, it brings the best out of people.
Also, the worst fears are that
it's a very high stress and like the planning and we try to
that's one of the things we try to do is to make it as smooth as possible.
So we try to take care of almost, you know, everything for them.
So there's not.
There's not the stress.
Yeah. But, you know, it is. Yeah.
I mean, you've seen some stuff over there.
Oh, you did right.
Which I'm. Sure John has a. Enjoy.
So I was just going to say, when I meet with these couples
and I meet, you know, 2 or 3 couples a week, you know, for consultations
and you'll you could tell by the, the eye contact and.
Oh, they're like bickering already. Yeah.
And they're not even through the honeymoon period. Right.
Yeah. Yeah, but there was this one guy.
I've deejay three of his weddings.
Yeah. Over the past year. Well,
yeah, three of his weddings.
And we've actually, we've actually done a few divorce parties.
Oh, have you ever catered the divorce parties?
No, I yeah, I've actually had a few divorce parties.
They're among the best parties
I've ever done because they actually got along better.
Oh, yeah. Right after they were.
Divorce parties. Could be a whole new model.
The divorce parties, they both showed up.
They both showed up.
Wow. Yeah, I believe they probably would get along better.
Yeah.
I was like 3 or 4 of the divorce parties, you know, so, Tony,
next time I get a divorce party, I'll give you a call.
That'll be a hell of a first for you.
Let me know.
But but I mean, you just again, a testimony to you
because I've been here so many times over the past years.
Yeah. And it's just been always a pleasure.
And I'm not just saying that because you're with me right now.
But we've had many conversations,
you know, privately and you really know how to treat people.
Yeah. And I think that's what makes me excited about coming here.
Yeah.
I mean, you as well, John
M, you're a consummate professional, like in your industry.
We never, you know, when you're here, we know there's never going
to be any issues.
Everything's going to go smooth and professional.
So, I mean, the same with you, you know for sure.
But thank you.
Thank you. Joyce,
I know you've worked here for a long, long time as well and work with Tony.
And every time I hear you, hear you talk about Tony, as always in glowing terms.
Absolutely.
I know it's a mutual admiration society here.
You know, it's like family. It was just like, for sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We trust each other. That loyalty.
Yeah, it means a lot.
That's for sure.
Trust and loyalty go a long, long way.
But, Tony, thank you so much for being on and sharing a little bit
about our background in talking about woodwinds.
And I just I admire the way you talk about your family,
where you honor and Revere your family.
That means a lot to me. And I know it means a lot to you.
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Yeah, I know, so I really yeah. So thank you so much.
And Tony, thank you so much and lots. Of thanks guys.
Yeah appreciate it. Bye for now.