De Facto Leaders

When it comes to working with kids who have ADHD, it’s easy to mistake skill-based issues with behavioral issues. That’s why in this interview, I sit down with Mike McLeod, a speech-language pathologist who specializes in ADHD and executive functioning. During this conversation, Mike shares: ✅Red flags of executive dysfunction, how it relates to organization and time management, and why it’s so common in kids with ADHD. ✅What the “argument vortex” is, and the reason kids would rather argue with parents than get their work completed (even with simple tasks). ✅Why kids with ADHD have such a hard time getting motivated to start work, and what parents can do to support them when this happens. ✅Common myths about time management, accountability, and intelligence as it relates to people who have ADHD or related conditions. If you’re supporting a child with ADHD, this is a must listen. Mike has a wealth of knowledge from his work with students and families, and shares a ton of great insights that will help you understand some of your kid’s most challenging habits and tendencies. The following resources are mentioned in this interview: For information on nonverbal working memory, check out Dr. Russell Barkley’s website here. For information on Sara Ward and her resources for supporting kids with Executive Functioning skills and time management, visit her website here. To learn more about Ryan Wexelblatt, the ADHD Dude who coined the term the “Argument Vortex” for kids with ADHD, visit his YouTube Channel here. To connect with Mike McLeod, you can visit his website here, follow him on Instagram at @grownowtherapy or visit his Facebook page here. If you’re a parent who wants to set your kids up for success as adults, then then you’re going to love this free parent guide, which I mentioned in this episode. In this guide, I share the set of skills that kids need in order to stay organized, focused, and motivated during their day-to-day tasks like chores and homework: https://drkarendudekbrannan.com/parentguide The De Facto Leaders podcast was formerly the “Are they 18 yet?®” podcast. As of November 2022, the name of the show has changed, and we’ve shifted from a focus on parenting to a focus on supporting clinicians and educators to design effective services for kids (but parents are still welcome to listen). Episodes published before November 24, 2022 will still contain some of our old branding. 

Show Notes

When it comes to working with kids who have ADHD, it’s easy to mistake skill-based issues with behavioral issues.

That’s why in this interview, I sit down with Mike McLeod, a speech-language pathologist who specializes in ADHD and executive functioning.

During this conversation, Mike shares:
 
✅Red flags of executive dysfunction, how it relates to organization and time management, and why it’s so common in kids with ADHD.
✅What the “argument vortex” is, and the reason kids would rather argue with parents than get their work completed (even with simple tasks).
✅Why kids with ADHD have such a hard time getting motivated to start work, and what parents can do to support them when this happens.
✅Common myths about time management, accountability, and intelligence as it relates to people who have ADHD or related conditions.

If you’re supporting a child with ADHD, this is a must listen. Mike has a wealth of knowledge from his work with students and families, and shares a ton of great insights that will help you understand some of your kid’s most challenging habits and tendencies.

The following resources are mentioned in this interview:
For information on nonverbal working memory, check out Dr. Russell Barkley’s website here.
For information on Sara Ward and her resources for supporting kids with Executive Functioning skills and time management, visit her website here.
To learn more about Ryan Wexelblatt, the ADHD Dude who coined the term the “Argument Vortex” for kids with ADHD, visit his YouTube Channel here.
To connect with Mike McLeod, you can visit his website here, follow him on Instagram at @grownowtherapy or visit his Facebook page here.

If you’re a parent who wants to set your kids up for success as adults, then then you’re going to love this free parent guide, which I mentioned in this episode. In this guide, I share the set of skills that kids need in order to stay organized, focused, and motivated during their day-to-day tasks like chores and homework: https://drkarendudekbrannan.com/parentguide

The De Facto Leaders podcast was formerly the “Are they 18 yet?®” podcast. As of November 2022, the name of the show has changed, and we’ve shifted from a focus on parenting to a focus on supporting clinicians and educators to design effective services for kids (but parents are still welcome to listen). Episodes published before November 24, 2022 will still contain some of our old branding. 

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What is De Facto Leaders?

On the De Facto Leaders podcast, host Dr. Karen Dudek-Brannan helps pediatric therapists and educators become better leaders, so they can make a bigger impact with their services. With over 15 years of experience supporting school-age kids with diverse learning needs, Dr. Karen shares up-to-date evidence-based practices, her own experiences and guest interviews designed to help clinicians, teachers, and aspiring school leaders feel more confident in the way they serve their students and clients. She’ll cover a range of topics designed to help you support students' emotional and academic growth and set kids up for success in adulthood, including how to support language, literacy, executive functioning, and how to help IEP teams working together to support kids across the day. Whether you want to learn more effective strategies for your therapy session or classroom, be a more influential leader on your team, or find creative ways to use your skills to advance in your career, Dr. Karen has you covered.