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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, it was coming.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked the whole not through good morning. Good morning

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<v Speaker 1>to you and you and you, Hey, good morning everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Chris and I'm Jeff, and we are the Bible Guys.

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<v Speaker 1>And today we are in the middle of a series

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<v Speaker 1>about God's promises and right, yes, yes, I'm a big fan,

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<v Speaker 1>big fan promises and how we can rely on them

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<v Speaker 1>on different contexts. But before we dive into that, we

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<v Speaker 1>have a segment today.

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<v Speaker 2>Hot Takes.

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<v Speaker 1>Hot Takes. Now we've only done this a few different times.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, that's correct.

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<v Speaker 1>And this Hot Takes, I haven't even actually I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>even read it. I've not even read it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I have an opinion on the first one.

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<v Speaker 1>This is me reading it for the first time, right now. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So it says on Hot Takes, do you agree with

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<v Speaker 1>this statement? And then it says defend your answer.

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<v Speaker 2>So the first one is the middle seat on airplanes

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<v Speaker 2>is actually the best?

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<v Speaker 1>Who in their right mind I know that would say

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<v Speaker 1>that that's actually the best.

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<v Speaker 2>That is insane?

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<v Speaker 1>So did you know that unfortunately. I hate to speak

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<v Speaker 1>bad about my beloved Delta, but did you know I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not I'm not a world class traveler like you. So

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<v Speaker 1>you get like perks and benefits and stuff, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in the low life. Okay, I am silver medallion, but

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<v Speaker 1>all you have to do is show up to be silver.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, no, no, no, you have to.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to get a certain certain come on couple flights.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me a little credit. But anyway, so I'm with

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<v Speaker 1>the minions.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mean to break right, but anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>The point is is that it used to be that

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<v Speaker 1>you could choose your own seat for free, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things I loved about Delta. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>know they just recently changed that.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you have to pay to choose.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, unless I'm wrong, but you know, there's that whole

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<v Speaker 1>like basic, you know, like you could choose the Basic,

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<v Speaker 1>then you choose the you know. But anyway, so I

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<v Speaker 1>always choose the cheapest, and usually unless I'm wrong. I

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<v Speaker 1>could be wrong. I'm open to being wrong here, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm almost positive what I did was I chose the Basic,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I realized later on that the only time

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<v Speaker 1>I could choose my actual seat was I had to

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<v Speaker 1>pay thirty something dollars, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Is what were you trying to choose seats a little

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<v Speaker 2>further up?

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<v Speaker 1>No, there were basic seats, so they had to assign

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<v Speaker 1>my seat for me, which is what Southwest does, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Jet Blue and all those other horrible ones

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<v Speaker 1>like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yea, so it can never book basic, pay the extra

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<v Speaker 2>twenty bucks and book main cabin. Yeah that's well, those

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<v Speaker 2>are the same seats, but you have way more selection.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, anyway, I got stuck in the middle, okay, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good thing. I've lost great like in row.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty five, I mean many how many hours?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it was only from Florida to here, so took.

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<v Speaker 2>Two and a half. It's still a long time sitting

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle seat.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I'm smaller now. But here's the thing. The

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<v Speaker 1>guy next to me was huge, but you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>he was good though, Like you know, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>times people are big and then they sort of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like they go over the vager side, they take over.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy was really good, so he knew he was

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<v Speaker 1>very very big. I mean I'm talking like six foot

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<v Speaker 1>four and he must have been two sixty. But he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't like he was in shape. He was thick, like

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<v Speaker 1>like an athlete, right, so I was I was actually

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<v Speaker 1>looking at him like, wow, this guy can He's got

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<v Speaker 1>to play ball or something, right, But anyway, this guy

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<v Speaker 1>was very large. And then but then I had the

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<v Speaker 1>sweet old lady next to me. But here I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle, and I'm watching my elbows right, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just sitting there the whole time, And I thought to myself,

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<v Speaker 1>the middle seat is the worst. How could anybody defend him?

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<v Speaker 2>I hate the middle seat. Now, you know, I do

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<v Speaker 2>have a friend, We have a mutual friend. You know

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<v Speaker 2>him too. He's from the Middle East. He's not a

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<v Speaker 2>big guy. He's pretty small, and he doesn't care. So

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<v Speaker 2>if I go, oh no, I've got a middle seat,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do everything I can do to get out

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<v Speaker 2>of that middle seat. You know, pay an upgrade if

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<v Speaker 2>I have to, whatevers. And I'd like, oh, I don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>He can get his he can get his knees up

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<v Speaker 2>on his seat, go to sleep. You know, he's just

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<v Speaker 2>a little guy and so he doesn't care at all.

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<v Speaker 2>But I hate it, just absolutely hate it. I got

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<v Speaker 2>stuck on an eight and a half hour flight in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle seat because we had a last last minute

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<v Speaker 2>change and it was my only way. So I hate it.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is a dumb question. There's nobody who believes,

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<v Speaker 2>come on, it's actually the best. Come on, it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody needs it's the best seat.

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<v Speaker 1>So you name me one example. Try to find me

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<v Speaker 1>one example why it's the best. You know what? Okay, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>how about this one. If you're with your family.

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<v Speaker 2>And your wife wants to sit next to you, your

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<v Speaker 2>kid wants to sit next to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you want to be in between either because

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<v Speaker 1>you want to separate them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I never want to be in between, or you

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk to them. I don't want to sit

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle. Okay, I don't want to talk to

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<v Speaker 2>anybody on a plane. Your plugs, put my headphones in,

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<v Speaker 2>don't talk to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think

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<v Speaker 1>of a single good reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the next one. Boneless wings are just nuggets and

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<v Speaker 2>should be labeled that way.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I absolutely agree.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent. Yeah, I'm always disappointed by boneless wings.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the breading is different, I know, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>They might as well just be like banquet nuggets. Remember

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<v Speaker 2>banquet yeah, right, that's what they should be. Boneless wings

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<v Speaker 2>are fraudulent.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree, And I think that like when I

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<v Speaker 1>go to a place and they ask me between the two.

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<v Speaker 1>If if for some reason I do boneless, which every

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<v Speaker 1>once in a while i'll do it, I'm always regretting it.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a lawsuit about it a guy. A guy

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<v Speaker 2>sued over false advertising because they there is no wing

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<v Speaker 2>meat in them. It's all breast meat. Oh so they're

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<v Speaker 2>not wings.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, and just looking for a quick wit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that the court said it's a commonly known thing,

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<v Speaker 2>that it's just a marketing thing, and so they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't side with him. Yeah, but I agreed with him.

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<v Speaker 2>He's right, it's fraudulent. They're not wings. It's fraudulent. It

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<v Speaker 2>is man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're right though, they are definitely not wings.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I've also eaten my body's weight in them,

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<v Speaker 2>So does it stop me from meeting them. I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>saying they're not wings, they're chicken nuggets.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, Hey, by the way, let's let's take just

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<v Speaker 1>a moment. Since that was a quick segment. I'll take

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<v Speaker 1>just a moment, because, after all, there are plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>listeners who are not living in Michigan, right, Okay, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>however probably I would say the majority of our listeners

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<v Speaker 1>are in Michigan.

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<v Speaker 2>Go Lions, Go Lions.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So take just a second, and because I know

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<v Speaker 1>you are a food connoisseur, especially with carne.

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<v Speaker 2>Meat meat, yes, meat, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh, tell everybody, what is your favorite wing place

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<v Speaker 1>or one of them?

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<v Speaker 2>Really?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that? Okay? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Well what's your favorite wing place?

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<v Speaker 1>It's that place that you took me to.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. What is the name wing Stops?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, there was another one. It was a different name,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, wingstop is good. Wing snobs, wing snobs. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>they're the best ones. Yes, yes, I like them.

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<v Speaker 1>It was you took me there and I and you said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>these are these are leaders. Live up to their name.

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<v Speaker 1>They're wing snop And I was like, okay, listen, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a big wing guy like wings are. Okay, And

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<v Speaker 1>I went there and ate them, and I actually thought

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<v Speaker 1>to myself, these are a cut above the rest.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they were really good. Yeah, and there's a few

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<v Speaker 2>of them around here too. There's not one rate near

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<v Speaker 2>my house. So I'm praying that the Lord will go

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<v Speaker 2>before me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, provide before and behind me, go to wings now

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<v Speaker 1>right next to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's weird. You know where we live For our

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<v Speaker 2>listeners who don't know, we live in a suburban metropolitan

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<v Speaker 2>area outside of Detroit, and it's mostly all like engineers

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<v Speaker 2>and people involved somehow in the automotive supply industries and engineering.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just thousands and thousands of engineers for General Motives

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<v Speaker 2>and Chrysler, and so there's not a lot of industry

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<v Speaker 2>in our communities. They're all just giant bedroom communities. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just subdivision after subdivision and stores and restaurants. Right, it's great.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have every restaurant and the planet within like

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<v Speaker 2>two and a half miles of my house right right,

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<v Speaker 2>And it's crazy. Have you ever noticed you go, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go out tonight. Okay, where should we go? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, And you can't think of where to go.

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<v Speaker 2>There's so many options there. So you know, when I

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<v Speaker 2>was growing up in LaPier, there were like three options

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<v Speaker 2>right right right? Do you we want pizza? Do we

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<v Speaker 2>want chicken? Do we want burgers? That's basically and then

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<v Speaker 2>there was the expensive steakhouse, but that was it.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever we go to La City, campus. There's that one restaurant,

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<v Speaker 1>what is Lucky's. Yeah, it's like, hey, where youre gonna go?

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, want to go to Luckies?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, exactly, So that's that's how it is. But

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<v Speaker 2>but where it's just all restaurants.

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<v Speaker 1>But they have a new burger place that's pretty darn good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, they really do. They are good.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, Uh you said Chrysler and GM that

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<v Speaker 1>you excluded what Ford.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't have a lot of Ford engineers where we live.

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<v Speaker 2>They're over on the other side of town. Okay, there's

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<v Speaker 2>no Ford complexes right here for engineering.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, I just didn't want for people to feel

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<v Speaker 1>left out.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we don't care about Ford.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop it, yeah, stop it. You're wearing a Lion's jersey though, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know, and they should sell the company, sell the.

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<v Speaker 1>Time, I definitely agree with.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, when you get a sixty year run of not winning,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you should hand it off. Yeah, but hey, but

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<v Speaker 2>the Fords that did it, though, Let's.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's be clear. So, hey, Anyways, now that we're in

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's take twenty minutes and really jump into.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'll tell you what I was devoted to those

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So we are in Matthew chapter twenty eight. We're

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<v Speaker 2>And so at the resurrection, the Bible says the women

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<v Speaker 2>in verse eight of chapter twenty eight of the Book

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<v Speaker 2>of Matthew. The women ran quickly from the tomb, and

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<v Speaker 2>they were very frightened, but also filled with great joy.

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<v Speaker 2>And they rushed to give the disciples the angel message

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<v Speaker 2>Go tell my brothers to leave for Galilee, and they'll

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<v Speaker 2>and they still tell it today. Then the eleven disciples

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<v Speaker 2>left for Galilee, going to the mountain where Jesus had

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<v Speaker 2>and told his disciples, I have been given all authority

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<v Speaker 2>in heaven and on earth. Therefore go and make disciples

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<v Speaker 2>of all the newsations, baptizing them in the name of

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<v Speaker 2>teach these new disciples to obey all the commands that

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<v Speaker 2>you always even to the end of the age. So

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about the promises of God and Jesus is

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, even to the end of the age.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Now there's a forty day gap, just so our

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<v Speaker 2>listeners understand, there's a forty day gap between verse fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. So Jesus is once again where I should say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, once again the promise is being reminded to

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<v Speaker 1>even to the edge end of the age. And the

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<v Speaker 1>context for this promise, because remember, on Monday, the context

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<v Speaker 1>same promise, He'll never leave you, He'll never fail you,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was in the context of God going before

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<v Speaker 2>And choosing to love God, obey God, yes, and he'll

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<v Speaker 1>And this is the same promise that God is with

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<v Speaker 1>us and he'll never leave us. Only this is the

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<v Speaker 1>context of the Great Commission. And the Great commission is

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<v Speaker 1>actually you know, it's really a movement of his people,

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<v Speaker 1>if his believers, of his followers, and he gives a

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<v Speaker 1>about my resurrection, and teach them to obey and and

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<v Speaker 1>disciple them, baptize them, can you know, make believers of

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<v Speaker 1>your reputation. It makes it to stand up for what

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<v Speaker 1>But just know that God is with you when you

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So when Jesus paid the price on the cross,

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<v Speaker 2>for our sin with his blood. Without the shedding of blood,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no forgiveness of sins, the Bible says. So he

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<v Speaker 2>deals with both of those. But it was his resurrection,

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<v Speaker 2>life right. And it's also in that time that the

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<v Speaker 2>Bible talks about how Jesus holds the keys, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>He might win a battle, but he's never going to

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<v Speaker 2>God's not being slack or lazy. Instead, he's being patient, right,

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<v Speaker 2>not willing that any would perish, but that all would

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<v Speaker 2>The Bible says that God has given Jesus the name

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<v Speaker 2>above every name, and that at the name of Jesus,

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<v Speaker 2>every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that

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<v Speaker 2>of kings and the Lord of lords. Right, he is

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<v Speaker 2>He's defeated everything. He's vanquished sin, and he has the

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<v Speaker 2>everybody everywhere go make disciples'. That's evangelism, that's disciple making.

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<v Speaker 2>Every single believer is called to be a disciple maker.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he says, baptize them the name of the

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<v Speaker 2>Father's Son in the Holy Spirit. It's interesting, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>of God. That's what baptism signifies. It signifies the death,

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<v Speaker 2>Beryl and resurrection of Jesus. You're in Christ. Because you're

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<v Speaker 2>love God and love people. Right, and then oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>go tell everybody and baptize them. There's those four things

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<v Speaker 2>then he says, in that context, you can be sure

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<v Speaker 2>of the age. So it's in the context of making

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it's a wonderful thing to that promise, knowing

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<v Speaker 1>this case, you know, to bring up God and to

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<v Speaker 1>disciple someone. Well, gee whiz, that's not just a that's

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<v Speaker 1>just not like one sermon. That's like that's a lifestyle, right,

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<v Speaker 1>in the conversation. Hey, so what's your church background? And

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<v Speaker 1>this entails. This is a lifetime mission.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, one of the most powerful beginning conversations. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>tools or starters that I've ever used, and I use

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<v Speaker 2>it judiciously. It has to be an appropriate time and place.

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<v Speaker 2>But there have been times when it was clear somebody

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<v Speaker 2>was hinting around in a spiritual conversation. And people sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>either don't know how to get into the spiritual conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't want to be confrontational, or they just feel

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<v Speaker 2>uncomfortable with it. They're very attracted, they want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about spiritual things, they just don't know how to get started.

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<v Speaker 2>And so in that when I have that sense if

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<v Speaker 2>the Holy Spirit's nudging me, there's been many times I'll

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<v Speaker 2>just say, hey, can I ask you like a really

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<v Speaker 2>direct question? So I get them to give me permission? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead, And I'll say, if God forbid, but if

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<v Speaker 2>something tragic happened and you died today, are you one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred percent sure you go to heaven? And I can't

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<v Speaker 2>tell you how many times that just breaks it open. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a boldness to that, because some people get

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<v Speaker 2>it mad even bring that up or whatever. Right, So

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<v Speaker 2>it has to be the right time, the right moment.

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<v Speaker 2>But I've done it many many men, many times where

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen grown men get teared up and they go,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's exactly what I'm asking, right, is I

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<v Speaker 2>want to go to Heaven when I die. And so

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<v Speaker 2>there's this opportunity there. So there's a boldness. This is

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<v Speaker 2>what Jesus saying, Listen, I've got all the power, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sending you on the mission, but I'm never going

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<v Speaker 2>to leave you. The reason why I brought up the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that he mentions the Trinity there is because at

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<v Speaker 2>the end he says, I am with you always, even

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the age. But we know it's

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<v Speaker 2>not him, it's the Holy Spirit. But he's speaking in

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<v Speaker 2>the power of the Trinity there right, He's not speaking

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<v Speaker 2>just in the Jesus conversation. He says, I'm the Son,

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<v Speaker 2>the Father's Son and Holy Spirit are one, and I

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<v Speaker 2>will be with you always. That's kind of thing. So

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<v Speaker 2>now you're talking. You have the full power of the

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<v Speaker 2>Triune God behind you when you are going and making disciples,

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<v Speaker 2>and you don't have to go to you know, Ivory

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<v Speaker 2>Coast to make disciples. You can make disciples in your

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<v Speaker 2>lunch room. You can have a spiritual conversation with the

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<v Speaker 2>person sitting in the cubicle next to you right right,

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<v Speaker 2>or with your uber driver or whatever. It doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>to be some mystical go everywhere in the world. Christians

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<v Speaker 2>are everywhere. Now, We've got Christians everywhere. So if all

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<v Speaker 2>the Christians would just go next door, go across the street,

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<v Speaker 2>we could lead people to Christ. The sad thing is

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<v Speaker 2>only about five percent of all Christians ever have the

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<v Speaker 2>privilege leading somebody to Jesus. And most of it is

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<v Speaker 2>because ninety percent of all Christians never share the gospel, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's interesting five percent will share what will lead

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<v Speaker 2>somebody to Jesus. Ninety percent will never say, will never

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<v Speaker 2>try to share the gospel, which means you can see

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<v Speaker 2>the numbers there. More than half of us would lead

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<v Speaker 2>somebody to Jesus if we would try. Yeah. And then

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<v Speaker 2>the global stat you know, I work with a global

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<v Speaker 2>evangelism disciple making organization called the Timothationership. The worldwide stat

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<v Speaker 2>is you lead one out of every fifteen people you

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<v Speaker 2>share the Gospel with. That can be discouraging to some people.

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<v Speaker 2>That means you're gonna get fourteen nos. To me, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>get through fourteen knows because you're gonna lead somebod to

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus a number fifteen, right, that's the average share the

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<v Speaker 2>gospel fifteen times, So fifteen times with the same person

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<v Speaker 2>or fifteen times you know, with fifteen different people, you

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<v Speaker 2>can lead people to Jesus. Just that's how it works.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the mentality of a good salesman right there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, get through the nose so you can

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<v Speaker 2>get to the s Yeah. And because you have the

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<v Speaker 2>power of Jesus with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, that's great. You know, it's so interesting. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember hearing a sermons series one time called Go Fish.

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<v Speaker 1>It was all about fishing.

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<v Speaker 2>For men, yep.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember it was like a six week series

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<v Speaker 1>or a seven week series or something like this. It

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<v Speaker 1>was the best evangelism series I've ever heard in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>It was talking about leading people to Christ. But I

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<v Speaker 1>remember the context of one of the sermons in this

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<v Speaker 1>series talked about how it was called fishing Buddies, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was the idea of like, hey, whenever you go fishing,

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<v Speaker 1>you go go go the buddy, right, and you're, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>two guys in a boat or whatever as opposed to one.

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<v Speaker 1>And basically, what are you're saying was you have these

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<v Speaker 1>two things. You have Jesus saying I'm going to build

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<v Speaker 1>my church and nothing's going to stop it. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you have the great commission go and make disciples, and

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<v Speaker 1>you have two of these things and these are partners, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And so he was talking about the idea that the

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<v Speaker 1>church should be a partner with you. So here you are,

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<v Speaker 1>you're at home, your at work, You're in your own

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<v Speaker 1>little world. If you invite somebody to church, your church

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<v Speaker 1>should be a partner with you in that when you

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<v Speaker 1>invite them, the church should be also a place where

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<v Speaker 1>I can give the gospel and they could hear the gospel.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, you shouldn't depend on your church solely. You

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<v Speaker 1>should lead them to Christ yourself. You should share the

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<v Speaker 1>gospel with them. You should know how to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>you should do it regularly. But when you do invite

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<v Speaker 1>them to church, we're both on the mission of reaching

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<v Speaker 1>people for catching fishers and men, right you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, catching fish. And so I just

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<v Speaker 1>remember never forgetting that. I heard that. I heard that

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<v Speaker 1>sermon in two thousand and three, and I thought to myself,

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<v Speaker 1>I will never forget that. Yeah, that the church is

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<v Speaker 1>a partner in the great commission. And so then sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>not often, but sometimes when I talk with people, they

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<v Speaker 1>talk about like, hey, why is your church, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so heavy on reaching people who are far from God.

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<v Speaker 1>You actually angle your services toward that person, And I say, hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just some churches don't do that. Some churches do

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<v Speaker 1>like in depth Bible studies and and and they're more

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for the for the believers, you know, focused

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<v Speaker 1>on the believers on a Sunday morning. That's fine. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I remember getting into a conversation with somebody about like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, they very much prefer uh, this church because

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a deep dive in the you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>the book of whatever, Leviticus or something, and and and

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<v Speaker 1>on the Sunday mornings. And their church was about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a smaller church. And then here's what I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, well, that's great. So how many people have

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<v Speaker 1>you led to christy? And and they said, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you mean, how's it? Well, if you don't go to

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<v Speaker 1>a church you just talked, you just criticized my church

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<v Speaker 1>for focusing on people, you know, focusing on reaching people

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<v Speaker 1>for Christ. You're saying that your church doesn't necessarily have

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<v Speaker 1>that focus on a Sunday morning. So therefore, you as

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<v Speaker 1>an individual must be a superstar, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Like leading lots of people to Jesus outside, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Because because you can't invite in the church to do so.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're like, well, I never thought about that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's the idea that like this great commission

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<v Speaker 1>is hopefully going to be a partner. Hopefully you go

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<v Speaker 1>to a church that shares this partnership with you. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's both and it's not either or.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's so. The church is not an institution.

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<v Speaker 2>We are the church, that's right, and we are here

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<v Speaker 2>for the world. So whether it's inside of our building

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<v Speaker 2>or outside of our building, we should all be making

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<v Speaker 2>disciples all the time. That's right. Yep, that's great.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's a great way to yep. Good reminder. Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>hey that's our time, so we will see you hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>next time on the Bible. Guys,