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Morgan Franklin: You know, for
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have a lot of opinions on
podcast guests, one of them

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being that the right guest is
going to make you a lot more

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money than most sponsorships or
advertisers ever will. I produce

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several interview style
podcasts, and there's one thing

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that I know for sure, nothing
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networking and building
connections quite like hosting

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interviews on your own podcast,
just being the producer in the

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room, I've watched hundreds of
professional and personal

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connections formed during
recordings, connections and

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relationships that have gone on
to make a lot of money. In this

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episode, we're going to talk
about how to create a valuable

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connection with your guest, how
to turn that one time

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collaboration into an ongoing
partnership, and what it takes

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to position your podcast as a
coveted marketing and outreach

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opportunity. Hello and welcome
to podcast for profit. My name

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is Morgan Franklin. I'm a
Podcast Producer, strategist and

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educator. This podcast will help
you create and grow a podcast

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that cuts through the noise of
social media and speaks directly

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to your target audience. If
you're ready to create a podcast

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that will align you with the
experts in your industry,

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position yourself as a trusted
leader and create another source

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of revenue for your business.
You're in the right place. Do

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you want to know the secret to
making a valuable connection?

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It's being a valuable
connection. And I know that

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sounds like the inside of a
fortune cookie, but in the past

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10 years, I've started two
multi, six figure businesses,

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and you want to know how I did
it. You want to know how I get

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almost every client I pursue or
that shows interest in me. I

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give them my time, I give them
my knowledge. I give them my

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attention, and most importantly,
I give them the most valuable

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information I can every single
time. Have you ever heard that

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phrase, it takes a friend to be
a friend. That's one of my

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favorite sayings, and I think
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has so many different meanings.
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have a friend, but you also have
to give if you want to be given

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to, you have to show your
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you have to make an investment
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give myself so fully at every
opportunity I have. If I'm

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taking the time to do something,
I'm gonna put all my cards on

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the table. I'm gonna do
everything that I can. And when

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you host someone on your
podcast, you want to be the most

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valuable, attentive, investing
person that you can be. You want

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to show this person that you are
grateful to have them, and that

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not only that, but you want to
help them. This is where I think

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so many podcasters and people
overall are just kind of getting

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it wrong. They get an incredible
guest, maybe even someone they'd

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love to work with. And you start
rubbing your hands together like

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a fly at a barbecue, and you
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because your energy changes from
being so grateful and excited to

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have this person on your podcast
to what can I get out of this?

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How can I close this deal? How
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the most out of this person's
audience? And people can sense

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that, and let's just say that
you did just invite someone on

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your podcast with the intention
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the future. That is so exciting,
right? Like this is a new

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opportunity for you, but you
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stay in that energy of true
abundance and not wanting or

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needing anything. So if you do
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you are not following up with
information about your product

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or your business or your
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them. You are following up with
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team, or saying, Hey, I just
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love to send it out to you if it
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two tickets to a gala next
weekend, and I would love to

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host you. It was great to meet
you. You are moving in the

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energy of I have everything I
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we're friends now, and I
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That is the energy I'm trying to
bring you. Know that? Mean,

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that's like the energy that I
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me. That's the energy I want to
bring to the function. Thank you

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for investing in me and my
podcast with your time and your

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effort. Now, how can I invest in
you that alone will change the

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game for you, that will change
the relationship you have with

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your guests? Now, will every
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of course not, but you don't
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client. You don't want every
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the seeds of goodwill, and I
promise abundance will grow some

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of the best clients I have and
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relationship. I've made in the
past decade have been from

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meeting someone at the studio,
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something for free for them,
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giving them my best and really
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from them. And just think about
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someone an incredible experience
for free. What do you think

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they'll expect from you when
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Just think about that. And next
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gosh, I don't have time to do
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but you're faced with a really
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door is slightly open, and you
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could do something for this
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about what will this person
think I would give them if they

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were paying when I gave this to
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great, and I know that we just
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people, but let's talk about how
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guest and future client to come
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shooting high, and I hope you
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intimidated to invite someone on
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to work with. And honestly, some
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gotten business is, if you're
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and you don't feel a little bit
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probably aren't aiming high
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you need to have an exact reason
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your show. How is it going to
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People want to be flattered, of
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know why they're the person for
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this down into what your podcast
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what you think the audience will
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show. Like I said, a little bit
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telling them why you think they
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and also why you want them.
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into a client. Really starts
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It's how you approach them. Are
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being concise? Are you attaching
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its previous guests and
accomplishments? Are you telling

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them I have these exact
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you offering to do a pre
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know them a little bit more and
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they haven't talked about on
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if you still need a media kit or
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you have, I have the perfect
Canva template linked for you in

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the episode description. You
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interactions and how you're
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quickly are you replying back to
their messages? Are you engaging

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with them? Are you showing them
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from start to finish, because I
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guest experience that will
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is a thoughtful invitation with
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pre interview, customized
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details about the recording and
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any of the Questions, a well
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and finally, just following up
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let them know how they can
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also some promotional materials
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Like that is really the least
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back for just a minute talking
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podcast recording most of the
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happens. This is where you're
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deal. First, if it's a virtual
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and make sure you've read
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once. And if it's an in person,
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early. Make sure all your
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You know everything that you
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read through your questions at
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in, take a few minutes to chit
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about their day, talk to them
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my mind, as a producer, there is
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to go straight into the
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giving your guest that time.
Most people aren't going on the

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late night circuit. Okay?
They're gonna be nervous, or at

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least they're gonna feel a
little tense. So take some time

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to talk with them. Let them know
how much you edit the show, if

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you edit the show, and what they
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recording. Clarity is kindness.
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matter what. And I mean this, if
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from this whole episode, listen
to this compliment them on what

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an incredible job they did at
the end of that podcast, maybe

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they stumbled through the whole
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a sentence together. I don't
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know that they did an amazing
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coming in and recording with you
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minimum that we can do for our
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how much time you have, you can
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episode is going to be coming
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then also that you'll follow up
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listen to it and share it.
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guest, like if they have any
connections or know anybody that

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they'd recommend to. Come on the
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great people in their network as
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for your show. So don't let them
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the show? But don't just sign
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that from the beginning to the
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they feel special and that they
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know that you appreciate them
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come on your podcast. Because
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deal, and most of the time
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they're not getting anything for
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appreciate you. And then, of
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the links and your podcast
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planting those seeds. Like I
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them know. Hey, I am here to
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need anything. Hey, I have this
product I'd like you to try or,

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Hey, would you like us to do an
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this is gonna all happen so
easily and naturally. You guys

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know it's just like making a
friend. It's any kind of

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connection that you have. This
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it feels forced or unwelcome,
I'd honestly just let it go. I'd

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probably just send the links to
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just don't click with people.
You know, you're not going to

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click with every single guest
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so don't push it. I would make
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because it just takes a second,
but you will know when you have

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made a connection through your
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long time connection. One other
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send a handwritten card after I
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podcasts. Normally, I'm doing
batch recordings, so I'll be in

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the studio recording three to
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and when I get home that night,
I'll go ahead and write the

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Thank You card so it's fresh on
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remember something about that
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Because, as you know, when
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interviews per month per
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details of each guest and each
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day where you did batch
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way, just go ahead, find their
addresses, write your thank you

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notes. And honestly, sometimes I
wait until their episode airs to

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send the message, just because I
want to have that one last touch

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point with them. They say, on
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interactions with your average
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you knock out six of those 12
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the podcast interview process, I
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job. I know you've heard that
saying your network is your net

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worth. And yes, it's cliche, but
you hear it so much because it's

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true. And this is where the real
money making and podcasting

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happens. We're meeting a guest,
we're hitting it off with them.

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We're talking about what we do,
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talking with a colleague or with
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my wife about this. M, we need
you, and it really is that easy.

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There's not really a reason to
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just educating and representing
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like always, and when you think
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industry specific podcast, this
is the perfect place to do it. I

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know that I've talked about this
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is about long term care and how
to pay for senior care in the

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United States. Through this
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long term care agency has been
able to make connections and

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talk to people all over the
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him with more people to get
funding, to find clients, to

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meet politicians making policies
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insane, and that's the power of
having a podcast that's targeted

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correctly to your objectives,
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brand and your marketing and
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wrap it up, let's work on making
a few goals together, because we

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can talk about networking and
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guests and how we're just gonna
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podcast, but if we don't have
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there. So the first thing that I
want you to do is find five

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guests that are in your industry
or niche that you would love to

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have on your podcast. Now, these
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They should be the kind of
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starstruck if they came on your
show. I want you to find their

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email or find their team's
email, reach out to them, pitch

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them, and just see what happens.
You know, this is a big ask, but

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I promise you crazier things
happen every day. I want you to

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just pitch five people who you
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your show, but they're kind of a
pie in the sky. GUEST Next, I

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want you to research five guests
that could lead to a business

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opportunity for you. Send those
people a pitch, ask them to come

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on your show. Do your research.
Find people that really could

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work for you and your business,
not just somebody that you know,

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not just the first person that
popped up. Do some real research

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to say, okay, these are five
people who. So I would really

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like to be connected with
professionally. And then for all

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10 of these guests, I want you
to have another list that's a

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plan of action for when they say
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least one way you plan to bring
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through the recording process.
So everything that we talked

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about one topic that you can
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information to their audience,
so maybe something that they

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don't talk about all the time,
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that you find interesting, that
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about on every single podcast.
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to nurture this guest experience
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sending that thank you note.
Having the right guests on your

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podcast is going to help you
build a community and network

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that is unmatched by any other
social media or in person

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networking strategies, because
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relationship with this guest,
you're building a relationship

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with their audience and
reinforcing the relationship

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with your own this is how you
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how you succeed in business.
Just remember, we're all looking

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for community. We're all looking
for where we fit in and where we

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can make a difference. So be the
one to take the first step, be

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the one that reaches out, be the
one that gives without expecting

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anything in return. Plant those
seeds, and as always, I can't

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wait to listen to your podcast.
Hey, thank you so much for

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joining me on this episode. If
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