The Man With One Red Shoe === Katie Marinello: [00:00:00] Hello and welcome to Carried Far, far Away, a podcast where we are watching and reading everything Carrie Fisher did in her short life and storied career, no matter how difficult it may be. Claire Fisher: No Katie Marinello: I'm Katie. Claire Fisher: it may be. Katie Marinello: I'm Katie Marinello Claire Fisher: And I'm Claire Fisher, Katie Marinello: And today we are discussing Claire Fisher: The Man With One Red Shoe. Katie Marinello: Yes, the Man with One Red Shoe. Claire Fisher: And if you're thinking, what? Katie Marinello: You're not wrong. Claire Fisher: That is the appropriate emotion Katie Marinello: If you were thinking this had Tom Hanks it, you were robbed. Claire Fisher: it is not a highlight of his career. Katie Marinello: It is not So, Claire, why this movie? How this movie, Claire Fisher: You wanna hear a little context? Katie Marinello: I would love some context. Claire Fisher: All right. Well, this is the first movie we've watched that was released in a year that has a song named after it, [00:01:00] Katie Marinello: Okay. That's, I guess that's strictly true. Claire Fisher: Watch somebody come up with an obscure song that was named after 1984. But anyway, this Katie Marinello: there's a book, I don't know if you've heard of it. Claire Fisher: I've heard of it. You had me read it when you were assigned it. Katie Marinello: It scared me. Claire Fisher: It was very scary. Yes. And I was two years younger than you were. Anyway. This movie was released July 19th, 1985. The number one movie in America is one that is fondly remembered. Do you have any guesses Katie Marinello: I do not. Claire Fisher: Back to the Future? Katie Marinello: Oh, so now there is a movie we could watch that would hold up Claire Fisher: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. No, Katie Marinello: if only they Claire Fisher: fairness, that's because it was already good Katie Marinello: Oh, right. So there's that. Yes. Claire Fisher: Not every comedy that came out that year has become a household name like Police Academy Two, not remembered as a Katie Marinello: but everybody remembers the Police Academy movies.[00:02:00] Claire Fisher: Well, yeah, Katie Marinello: That was 1985. I'm shocked. Claire Fisher: Well the second one was Katie Marinello: Aren't they still making them? Claire Fisher: No, I think they finished making them in the, in like 92. But Katie Marinello: Okay. Claire Fisher: Top 10 movies of the year included Rocky Four and Rambo First Blood part two. So it was a big year for Sylvester Stallone. the Color Purple Cocoon Witness and the Goonies is Katie Marinello: Okay. Yeah. Claire Fisher: yeah. Other notable events of the year include Gorbachev becoming General Secretary of the Soviet Communist Party and meeting with Ronald Reagan for the first time. Katie Marinello: I'm really glad they solved that whole US Russia thing. Claire Fisher: yeah, definitely great. They also, they discovered the hole in the ozone layer. I'm really glad that got Katie Marinello: we solved that too. Wait, we actually did solve that one. Claire Fisher: That's what I'm saying. Katie Marinello: I know. Claire Fisher: we got it solved. Other things we've totally solved are like famines in Ethiopia. Katie Marinello: Oh, thank God. Claire Fisher: live aid didn't single-handedly solve that. But we're definitely, we definitely made some progress there. Katie Marinello: Mm-hmm. Claire Fisher: Are [00:03:00] still multiple famines going on right now, Katie Marinello: At all given times? Yes. Claire Fisher: times, there's always one or two or maybe four. But anyway on the bright side, in 1985, the Nintendo Entertainment System was released in the US Katie Marinello: Oh, thank goodness. Claire Fisher: yeah. Things that are still with us. Right. also In 1985, Tom Hanks was on the up and up. , He had made Splash the year Katie Marinello: Mm-hmm. I read that was the 10th most popular movie in 1984 or 10th. Highest grossing. I guess. Claire Fisher: And it created the concept of naming little girls Madison. So what's not to love? Katie Marinello: Really. That was a fake name. Claire Fisher: Yeah, it was the joke was that the girl named herself after Madison Avenue in New York City. Katie Marinello: Oh, that's funny. Claire Fisher: Madison was a last name, Katie Marinello: Right. Claire Fisher: but yeah. So naming people Madison Katie Marinello: Okay. Claire Fisher: Splash popular and Katie Marinello: Wait, that's funny because the spy in this movie is Maddy. Claire Fisher: yeah,[00:04:00] Katie Marinello: Huh? Claire Fisher: be sure for Madeline because Madison wasn't a girl's name. Katie Marinello: Okay. All right. Claire Fisher: So one year after Splash and a year before Tom Hanks' first dramatic role, which is Nothing in Common. In 1986, Katie Marinello: Never heard of it. Yes Claire Fisher: It is a comedy and he was only known for his comedy at the time, but Katie Marinello: it is arguably a comedy. Yes. Claire Fisher: comedy. Katie Marinello: You can see where it was supposed to be. Funny. Claire Fisher: yeah, it's a remake of a French film. That's definitely a comedy. Katie Marinello: Yes, I saw that. Claire Fisher: the Katie Marinello: The Tall Man. Claire Fisher: one black shoe From 1972. So yeah, they were trying to do, Tom Hanks does a funny movie, which had been working for a few years. I mean, Tom Hanks, Bosom Buddies and Splash, and you know, a lot of guest stars on sitcoms. He was pretty funny, but he wasn't really a household name Mm-hmm. So Katie Marinello: Did you [00:05:00] notice that his name was not in the opening credits? I Claire Fisher: no, I didn't. Katie Marinello: actually rewound it to watch it again because I was like, there's no way. And then that's when I looked up to see how many movies he'd done before this. And I was like, this was right after Splash. So there's, I don't understand. He was the lead in Splash. Why he wouldn't be, but they had Jim Belushi, and. Carrie Fisher and a couple others, but they did not have Tom Hanks' name in the opening credits, Claire Fisher: Huh, Katie Marinello: and I thought that was so weird. Claire Fisher: that is weird. Well, this movie was released theatrically in the US but went direct to video in a couple of markets, including the UK and West Germany Katie Marinello: Okay. Claire Fisher: he was not really a household name yet. You couldn't just say, this is a movie with Tom Hanks in it and Katie Marinello: Right, right. Claire Fisher: So that's interesting. I mean, Bryan and I were talking about how now Tom Hanks pretty much almost exclusively does dramatic roles if he made a screwball comedy again today. Katie Marinello: It would be unusual. Claire Fisher: It would be surprising. Katie Marinello: [00:06:00] Yeah. Claire Fisher: yeah. But this was a thing he did in 1985 Katie Marinello: Yeah. He was a comedic actor Claire Fisher: yeah, Katie Marinello: and he is funny. That's the thing Claire Fisher: he is very funny. This didn't quite work. Katie Marinello: at all. Claire Fisher: of reasons why not. He, Tom Hanks actually has said since it wasn't about anything in particular that you can honestly understand, and it made no money at all. So if we didn't like this movie, we have the consolation of knowing he didn't either. Katie Marinello: Yeah. What did I read? It made $8 million, something like that. It must have been, it must have been more than that, but it was not. Claire Fisher: be like the domestic But anyway. Yeah. It really didn't work out, didn't work. It doesn't work. So, that's it. That's that podcast over Katie Marinello: Yep. We can go. Claire Fisher: lobsters. Katie Marinello: I was positive that I was wrong about this, but No, it grossed $8.6 million over its short theatrical run. Claire Fisher: What's that in modern dollars? Katie Marinello: 23 million.[00:07:00] Claire Fisher: Okay. So yeah, that, that would still be a flop Katie Marinello: That would still be a flop. Yeah. Like one theater filling up makes $8 million today. So, Is that all the context you have for me? Claire Fisher: That's all the context. I think that there is, I mean, Katie Marinello: I'm very curious what the, did you look up by any chance, what the plot of the French movie is? Because it wouldn't be the CIA. Claire Fisher: No. The plot synopsis on IMDB makes it sound like it's pretty similar, but I mean, I didn't watch the French Katie Marinello: well, let's, well, no, because why would we watch two versions of this movie? Claire Fisher: Well, I don't know, maybe the French one's funnier. Katie Marinello: It would have to be, so, should I summarize this for the many people who have not seen, just don't watch this movie. Let me tell you about it. In 54 seconds or less? Four. Claire Fisher: Yeah, Katie Marinello: Alright. Carrie Fisher plays Paula a flutist in a symphony orchestra with a Tarzan fetish. She's married to Morris, a [00:08:00] percussionist in the same orchestra, but she's pursuing his best friend Richard, who is a violinist. What she doesn't know, and in fact never finds out, is that Richard is being pursued by CIA deputy Director Burton Cooper and his team of spies. Why? Well, Cooper has been using his power to smuggle drugs in the hopes that it will bring down his boss, CIA director Ross. Ross knows Coopers after him, so he sends his deputy Brown to the airport to randomly pick someone outta the crowd who's purposely leaked, will be his key witness at upcoming congressional hearing. Richard is blissfully unaware of the increasingly outlandish ways he's being surveilled because he captivated by Maddy, a bond bombshell. He keeps running into both literally and figuratively unaware that she too is part of Cooper's plot. The only civilian who catches on it all is Morris, but he convinces himself that he's had a mental breakdown. Maddie has a change of heart tips, Richard off to the plan and turns Cooper in in exchange for her freedom. Morris ends up in a mental institution and Paul decides she needs to stay with him to take care of him. Richard and Maddie run off into the sunset and we are all left to wonder what we just did for 90 minutes. Claire Fisher: Okay, that was 60 seconds, but we'll forgive it. Katie Marinello: I'm sorry it did not deserve [00:09:00] the extra six seconds, but that was mostly my commentary. Claire Fisher: No, the extra six seconds is actually necessary. 'cause this is an obnoxiously convoluted plot. Katie Marinello: I had to start it over three times Claire Fisher: Yeah. Bryan made me pause it and say, do you know what's going on? Katie Marinello: and still and so you know, and the audience knows that I often multitask when I'm watching these movies and that's why I sometimes come confused this time. I. I turned off my computer, I put down my phone, I turned the lights out. I watched it like, it was like I was in a theater Claire Fisher: Right. Katie Marinello: and I had no idea what was going on for a good part of it. And I started over several times because I was , the whole opening sequence is kind of not necessary eventually. Claire Fisher: yeah. I mean, the opening lines are in Arabic Katie Marinello: Right. Claire Fisher: in Morocco. Then that comes Katie Marinello: Never comes up again. So the whole thing is to set up the drug bust, right? That they're [00:10:00] trying to frame the CIA a director for, but it's the CIA deputy director who's actually orchestrating everything. Claire Fisher: Right. Katie Marinello: And then we flash over to Washington and there's a congressional hearing, and the guy comes unprepared to the congressional hearing. So the senators say you have 48 hours to come back with the facts, and that's what sets this whole thing off. So there's really, yeah, that's why I had to watch it several times over. Also to look for Tom Hanks' name, so, Claire Fisher: Even as a setup, the opening sequence doesn't make sense because here's the thing, a CIA agent gets arrested in Morocco for a drug smuggle. Katie Marinello: yes. The Senate knows this. Claire Fisher: Because it's on the news. Katie Marinello: Right. Claire Fisher: But here's the thing. If you're on a mission for the CIA and you get arrested for unrelated reasons, you get disavowed before the end of that sentence. Right. Katie Marinello: right. Claire Fisher: doesn't identify its agents if they've just gotten in legal trouble in Katie Marinello: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And no, I don't work for the CIA, but they have [00:11:00] tried to recruit me, Yes. Claire Fisher: so I am vaguely aware of their personnel policies. Katie Marinello: Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. Like we would never hear about this. This would be either they would get him out in some sort of di like, Claire Fisher: Yeah, like Katie Marinello: Diplomatic thing. Yeah. Or they would just never talk about it. Claire Fisher: Yeah, Katie Marinello: Absolutely. Yeah. So there's Claire Fisher: that the Senate has any level of oversight over the CIA is one we've clung to for many generations now, despite a lack of evidence to Katie Marinello: Right, right. And okay, you have 48 hours to come back with the facts. So instead of doing any sort of investigation, the CIA director retreats to his like upstate palace or whatever. He knows he's been bugged by the CIA deputy director, which like what? Okay, fine. They've bugged his house, so he like feeds into the bug [00:12:00] that there's this key witness flying in to the Claire Fisher: at five 30, Katie Marinello: right, right. To Dulles. And then he basically tells his deputy, go pick someone. Claire Fisher: Yeah, his Deputy Brown, and I don't know if you wanna do actors as we're going through, but I recognized Katie Marinello: forgot to do actors. Yes. Absolutely. So, so Ross is Charles Durning. He's an American actor who appeared in over 200 movies, television shows place. Prior to acting, he w served in World War ii. He was decorated for his valor in combat. He started his acting career when he was selected to replace a drunk actor in a vaudeville show that he was an usher at the theater. And his best known films are The Sting Dog Day Afternoon True Confessions. Dick, Tracy and O Brother Wear Art though. In 1979, he played Doc Hopper, a man who owns a frog leg restaurant and the main antagonist in The Muppet Movie. And in Toostie he plays a [00:13:00] suitor to Dustin Hoffman's cross-Dressing lead character. Those two actors worked again in a 1985 TV production of Death of a Salesman. He was nominated for an Academy Award for best sort, supporting actor for both The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas, and To Be, Not To be, and he died in 2012. Claire Fisher: I think I've seen that version of Death of the Salesman. Katie Marinello: Cooper, the deputy director. Claire Fisher: His first good line was, I haven't felt this bad since I overthrew the government of Chile. Katie Marinello: I don't even remember that. So his name is Dabney Coleman. He appeared in over 175 films and television programs and received awards for both comedic and dramatic performances. He's known for playing unlikeable characters in comedies, including Nine to Five, Tootsie, and You've Got Mail. Significant roles included Meryl Jeter on Mary Hartman, and Louis the Commodore Katzer on Boardwalk Empire. His final role was in Yellowstone as a voice actor. He provided the voice of Peter Prickly on recess, the principal and in several movies based on the series, he won one Prime charity [00:14:00] Emmy Award from six nominations and won Golden Globe Award from three nominations. And then there is Claire Fisher: brown, Katie Marinello: brown, who was Claire Fisher: Edward Herman. Katie Marinello: Edward Herman, Richard. Claire Fisher: Also recognizable to fans of this podcast network from his role in Overboard as Katie Marinello: sure. Richard Gilmore, Claire Fisher: Yes, Richard Gilmore. Katie Marinello: he got a start on Broadway in 1972 with his debut in Moon Children. He received two Tony award denominations and one for best featured actor in a play for his performance in Mrs. Warren's Profession in 1976. Besides Richard, he's known for his betrayals of Franklin D Roosevelt in both the miniseries, Eleanor and Franklin. And in the 1982 film musical, Annie and was also an ubiquitous narrator for historical programs on the History channel and PBS. He was also known as a spokesman for Dodge Automobiles in the 1990s. He was a well-known character actor Warren Beatty's Reds, Woody Allen's, the Purple [00:15:00] Rose of Cairo overboard, like you said, the Lost Boys, the Aviator. Chris Rocks, I think I love my wife. He received five Prime Time Emmy Award nominations. He won for outstanding guest actor in a drama series for his performance in The Practice. And he also receives a Screen Actor's Guild Award nomination for best ensemble in a most picture with the cast of Oliver Stone's, Nixon, but most importantly Claire Fisher: Grandpa Katie Marinello: Richard Gilmore. Grandpa Gilmore. And you remember that he was always special feature, or like he was always, Claire Fisher: by, Katie Marinello: Special appearance by, even though he was like a pretty, I wouldn't say main cast, but like he was in most episodes, I would say. Claire Fisher: Yeah. There was probably some behind the scenes, like he had a contract somewhere else or Katie Marinello: Well, I guess he was very well known at that point, but not for any, particularly one thing. It seems that he was just a very well known character actor at that point.[00:16:00] Claire Fisher: Yeah. Yeah he's been in a lot of All these people are people who've worked a lot of times, right? Like this was a, it wasn't really a high budget kind of a movie. There were like a couple of stunts, but they must have splashed out on the actors because, Tom Hanks was no slouch. Katie Marinello: right. Claire Fisher: And all these people you just mentioned are people who had been working steadily for decades, Katie Marinello: Yeah. So I might as well go through Lori Singer, who is Maddie. She's an American actress and musician. She grew up in Portland, Oregon. And her father, this is really interesting. Her father, Jacques Singer, was the lead conductor of the Oregon Symphony from 1962 to 1972. She made her debut as a cellist with the Oregon Symphony at 13, and she was accepted to the Julliard School at 14, where she became the institution's youngest graduate. So I'm extremely curious about how she felt about being this movie and being like the one who didn't get to play a string instrument. Claire Fisher: Well, obviously she didn't make the cello, [00:17:00] her main life's Katie Marinello: No, she became a model and then she pivoted into acting. And besides this, her best known lead role is as Ariel Moore in the musical drama film. Footloose, Claire Fisher: Mm-hmm. Katie Marinello: Footloose, Footloose. Kick off your Sunday Shoes. But you, what you'd really play here is Almost Paradise. Claire Fisher: Because Katie Marinello: I'm knocking on Heaven's Door. Yeah, that's her song. One of her songs. Claire Fisher: Okay. Katie Marinello: So like you said, pretty well established actors. Claire Fisher: about Jim Belushi, though Katie Marinello: Jim Belushi, who is not. John Belushi is an American actor, comedian and musician, known for television, film, live performances. He is the younger brother of John Belushi. After John died, Jim was on Saturday Night Live in the early 1980s, and he's most widely known for his sitcom, According to Jim, which ran from 2001 to 2009. Some of his. Film roles include About Last Night K-9 and Red Heat. [00:18:00] He has also pursued music with his blues band, our favorite blues band, the Blues Brothers, continuing the legacy of his late brother. more recently, he has been involved in cannabis farming and was featured in the Reality Sea Series growing Belushi Lucci Claire Fisher: Well, there's a turn there. . Katie Marinello: Everybody's has a reality show, Claire, Claire Fisher: We have a show, so why shouldn't everybody, Katie Marinello: right? Exactly. Claire Fisher: So, Cooper and Ross have apparently been for at least some time now, sort of a spy versus spy. They're nominally on the same side, but they're both kind of dirty. Katie Marinello: Yes. Extremely. Yes. Claire Fisher: so the justification offered in universe is that Ross says Cooper loves complexity. we dangle someone who might be a witness on my behalf in front of him, he will waste all of his resources chasing that guy. And then [00:19:00] I'll be able to actually get the evidence, the real evidence, that he's behind this drug smuggling plot to the Senate without obstruction. In his defense, this does work. Cooper puts everything into chasing. Katie Marinello: An insane amount of resources into this. Claire Fisher: like at one point when they think that he's going to sneak a code Mm-hmm. Performance that night, he decides to tie in an isolation mic on the first violinist to what they call like GBLX computer. Cooper: Pulse. I want you to put a special mic on him tonight. One that isolates everything that he plays from the rest of the orchestra. Check Carson. You hook it into the Gbl LX 1000 computer Maddy: GBLX. Cooper: That thing will break any code, Maddy: but that's in control of our entire missile defense system. Cooper: Honey, will you please, what are the odds of the Russians attacking on a Thursday night? Come on. Claire Fisher: And Maddie says, but that's in charge of an entire missile defense system. And he says, what are the odds of the Russians attacking on a Thursday night? Katie Marinello: [00:20:00] That was one of maybe five lines that got me to breathe a little bit out of my nose. Claire Fisher: I know. I laughed like three or four times in this movie. Katie Marinello: I actually started to count them. Claire Fisher: Yeah. So that's my defense of this plot is that it actually does work in universe. Here's my problem with it. This is the dumbest CIA plot ever, and that includes MK Ultra. Katie Marinello: Right. And the most the most incompetent CIH. It's not in a good I don't know, I think there are plenty of movies that make spies look stupid, that are like, funny about it, but these guys, you're not, I'm not, never quite sure if there's supposed to be like a crack team or if they're supposed to be hopelessly incompetent because they do things like tear apart all his clothes to see if there's anything sewed into the seams and take apart his toothpaste at his plumbing, right? But then they put it back together wrong so that when he [00:21:00] flushes. This is not as funny as I'm saying. It's what in, in the scene Claire Fisher: the first time I laughed in the movie was when he goes to turn on the sink and the shower Katie Marinello: the shower turns on and then he can't figure out how to turn the sink on. So he flushes the toilet and then he has to flush the toilet a bunch of times because he's trying to wash his hands. And then they come to the assumption that he is flushing evidence down the toilet rather than they did it wrong. They put the full plumbing back together. Wrong. So, Claire Fisher: dumbest CIA plot ever, there is a, you, like you were saying, you can see how this was supposed to be funny 'cause there's moments like, so Brown puts two guys on protecting the man with one red shoe Katie Marinello: right. Claire Fisher: while Cooper puts his guys including Maddie, on researching the man with one red shoe. Whose name is Morris, I think no. Katie Marinello: No Claire Fisher: What? Richard. Katie Marinello: [00:22:00] Richard Morris. Morris is Jim Belushi, Claire Fisher: See how I can't keep this straight and I don't even work for the CIA Katie Marinello: right? Claire Fisher: So like they say, oh yeah, that's Verden and Reese, but we don't know which one's which. So Verden and Reese are Brown's guys who are protecting Katie Marinello: Mm-hmm. Claire Fisher: And through the whole movie, nobody actually uses their correct name. Right? Katie Marinello: And one of them gets all his teeth removed, Claire Fisher: Yeah. Bryan said this just became body horror Katie Marinello: right? I was so, like the whole thing was so scary that's scary. 'cause that, that brings back, like I used to watch Scandal Did a lot of tearing people's teeth out to get information, Claire Fisher: Yeah, Katie Marinello: more as a torture method than as a, we think they might be microfiche in the teeth. Again, there's just so many convoluted parts of this plot that if they worked would probably work together really well, but they don't work. So Morris is a well-known jokester, right? Claire Fisher: He's the reason. Katie Marinello: has one red shoe. Claire Fisher: He Katie Marinello: 'cause he took one of each of his pairs of shoes. So he had to fly home [00:23:00] from Chicago wearing two different shoes. He also gave him peanuts that were apparently not peanuts. So he broke his tooth, which is not a funny prank. Claire Fisher: No, Katie Marinello: Oh my God. So the first person he calls when he gets to the airport is his dentist. And so they, the CIA, comes to the very logical conclusion that he must have microfiche in his tooth. And so they send in one of their CIA. Dentists, which is apparently a thing to take out all of his teeth. Claire Fisher: but by mistake, this CIA Katie Marinello: Wait, wait, Wait. No. Not even. Let's, so their way of getting into this dentist's office is to just knock out everybody who works at the dentist's office. So Richard walks into the dentist's office now, Richard is very unaware of anything that's going on, right? He's very trusting of everything that's happening and very willing to just kind of roll with it, Claire Fisher: why would you assume you were [00:24:00] being persecuted by the Katie Marinello: right? But when you Right, that's tinfoil hat territory. But when he walks into a dentist's office and there's nobody there, it's dark out and he hears vague moaning coming from the dentist's chair. He literally says, Nope. And he walks right out. And I was like, that is the first logical action that anyone in this movie has taken. Claire Fisher: Exactly. Yeah. Katie Marinello: And so he walks out and so then the, one of the guys who's been assigned to protect him walks in and gets his teeth pulled out, Claire Fisher: Uh ha Ha. Katie Marinello: LOL, Claire Fisher: Right. Katie Marinello: then the rest of the movie, he's not talking 'cause he has no teeth. And that's supposed to be funny. Claire Fisher: Yeah. Uhhuh. Katie Marinello: Cool. Claire Fisher: yeah. And Morris, meanwhile Katie Marinello: See, you don't even know the name of the main character. Claire Fisher: 'cause it was not a really good movie. Based on that, you might think he has some common sense, but then when he gets back home, he rides his bike home and he [00:25:00] finds Maddy standing in his apartment, which he locked when he left. And she says, oh, I'm a tour guide. And we're like trying to do historic homes in Georgetown. He doesn't scream, throw her out, call the police. Think this is weird. He. Continues the conversation because he thinks this is fate. Because they also met at the airport when she frisked him Katie Marinello: right. Claire Fisher: if he was armed Katie Marinello: And to see what his name was Claire Fisher: Yeah. Katie Marinello: she stole, she took his wallet to look at his id. Claire Fisher: Right. And he didn't notice that either. But he thinks that, oh, you know, this woman, it's fate. We meet twice in one day. I'm gonna start hitting on her. And he gets shot by three knockout darts while he's talking to her, and he doesn't react to any of them. And then he actually passes out and the spies leave him on his floor. Katie Marinello: Passed out. Yeah. Claire Fisher: You could, if you think this person's a key witness, you could disappear him right now. Katie Marinello: Or if you wanna not let him know that you're onto him, put him on the bed [00:26:00] or something so that he thinks he at least fell asleep. Claire Fisher: right. Katie Marinello: left him on the floor and he is like, huh. Claire Fisher: That was weird. Katie Marinello: Honestly, there's no indication that he even knows any of this is happening until later in the movie when he kind of summarizes all the weird things that have happened to him that day. 'cause this whole movie takes place over the course of one day, Claire Fisher: Well, 48 hours because Katie Marinello: hours. But the most, the bulk of it is one day. Claire Fisher: Yeah Shortly after he recovers consciousness, Paula enters the plot. Katie Marinello: finally, oh my God. I was like, is Claire Fisher: briefly earlier in the Katie Marinello: Yes. She's in the airport very briefly with Morris. I once again was kinda like, I, okay. Her name was in the opening credits. She's in this movie. I wanna make sure I'm watching the right movie. Claire Fisher: Yeah, she's around. Katie Marinello: once again, she is criminally underused. So she kind of burst into his apartment. She wants to sleep with him because apparently this is something they have done before. Claire Fisher: Yeah, she's in leopard [00:27:00] print, , lingerie, Katie Marinello: Because she wants to play Tarzan Richard: He's a percussionist, but still, that doesn't mean he is not a nice guy. Paula: He may be a nice guy, but you are a terrific Tarzan. Richard: Paula, I don't want to do Tarzan. Paula: I'm doing Jane. It is just Tarzan. What's a big deal? No, come on, I I'll play all the other parts. Richard: All the other parts. Oh, sure. You're gonna do cheetah two. Paula: That's what it takes. Alright, fine. Let me hear. Ah, ah, Katie Marinello: and this is shown to us through surveillance. Right. So we hear it like how they're hearing it, Claire Fisher: right. Katie Marinello: but apparently they put all the microphones up so high that you can hear their surveillance outside of their vehicle. Claire Fisher: Well, that's later on. They accidentally play over [00:28:00] the pa in an ambulance. But yeah. Katie Marinello: Yeah. Claire Fisher: I have several problems with this. Here's one of them. Paula: Remember Chicago Fate? Kismet? Richard: No, I don't remember Chicago. Paula, you got me drunk. Claire Fisher: He's saying, can't do this anymore. I don't want to be party to you cheating on your husband. I can't do this to Morris. And she says, oh, but don't you remember Chicago? And he says, no, I don't remember Chicago, Katie Marinello: You got me drunk. Claire Fisher: That's not okay. Katie Marinello: Nope. Claire Fisher: And then Paula: So that's your final answer then. Richard: Yeah. Yeah. Paula: Well, I can respect that. I can't condone it. Don't no respect. Paula, will you come? You listen to what I'm saying? Claire Fisher: he said no. And then she tackles him again. Katie Marinello: Yeah. Claire Fisher: like, okay, take the L lady. . Katie Marinello: Right. There's no real indication that he was ever into it Claire Fisher: Right? They have been having an affair and he's played[00:29:00] Katie Marinello: or they had a they at least did it once. Claire Fisher: he knows about Tarzan, so he at least has been not drunk at least once. 'cause he's followed along with what's going Katie Marinello: Right. Claire Fisher: So apparently they've done this before, but he's having second thoughts, which to be fair, if you're, you know, the other man in a marriage, you probably Katie Marinello: And he is like really good friends with her husband. Claire Fisher: right. Katie Marinello: So yeah, I will say the leopard print bikini, it's up there in top three bikinis. We've seen her wear Claire Fisher: And we've seen her wear several Katie Marinello: several at this point. Claire Fisher: We've seen like four different They really, I mean if that doesn't tell you everything about what people were hiring her for in the eighties, I mean Katie Marinello: Horrifying, but also I really enjoyed that anyway. Claire Fisher: So her husband comes to the front door and she has to climb out the window. Katie Marinello: Yes, Funny. Claire Fisher: 'cause as she's climbing out the window, she [00:30:00] says, call me Tuesday. Katie Marinello: yes. And he's like, yeah, sure. Claire Fisher: And then there's a tiny bit of humor later on, the surveillance van is disguised as an ambulance and Verdan slash Reese are playing back the surveillance to figure out if there's something to it. But they accidentally tie in the ambulances pa and Katie Marinello: Wait, is it Verden and Reese? I thought it was the Cooper people. Claire Fisher: Oh, for Katie Marinello: Cooper's people. Claire Fisher: many characters in this movie. Okay. CIA agents are playing it out the public address of an ambulance, and Morris overhears it and recognizes her cheetah noises Katie Marinello: Yes. Claire Fisher: and so tries to chase the ambulance thinking that she's in there having sex with an ambulance driver. He gets driven off the road into the Potomac and he does a full mid-air flip on his bicycle. So, you know, props to the stunt man because that was actual a moment with some actual oh, they actually flipped a person. Okay.[00:31:00] Katie Marinello: Yep. Yep. Claire Fisher: I, it's still very dumb, but Katie Marinello: Yeah. So that happens. But before that happens, they go to the baseball game. Claire Fisher: yeah. Katie Marinello: the reason Morris shows up to his house is because they're supposed to play in a baseball game where they are the senators. Of course, when they overhear that on the, Claire Fisher: misunderstood. Katie Marinello: on the phone, they think he's going to talk to the senators, but no, he's going to be a senator. And then who's at the game, but Maddie, and he gets so distracted looking at her that he gets beamed in the head with a baseball. So I, Claire Fisher: ha. Katie Marinello: exactly. And then she's gonna, she's like, oh, you better come with me. And this whole time, she keeps saying to the director , you're not gonna kill him, right? And he's like, no, why would I kill him? I have no reason to kill him. But then he keeps slipping out of their, they're not really laying [00:32:00] traps. They're trying to find out what he's up to. Claire Fisher: Right. Katie Marinello: Yeah, okay. Claire Fisher: And he just thinks that Maddie is hitting on him because she wants to give him a ride home. She wants to hang out in his apartment. She's Katie Marinello: Oh, right. So he goes to take a shower and brushes his teeth and discovers that the toothpaste is now shampoo So he is blowing bubbles Claire Fisher: Ew. Katie Marinello: and she's looking at sheet music and he kinda takes it like, oh, you don't wanna see that because he's isn't proud of what he's been writing, Claire Fisher: Right, Katie Marinello: but she thinks that it's because he's hiding because code or whatever. Claire Fisher: right. Yeah. So. This is when the subplot of Morris being driven insane, kind of kicks into gear. 'cause Morris comes storming into the apartment being like, I just heard Paula in the back of an ambulance having sex. Katie Marinello: Right, Claire Fisher: then calls their house Katie Marinello: and [00:33:00] Paula is of course at home Claire Fisher: This is the Eighties when calling someone meant you knew where they were. Katie Marinello: Right, Claire Fisher: And this escalates over the course of the following day when Morris keeps seeing weird stuff happening, which is actually CIA shenanigans, Katie Marinello: right. Claire Fisher: anyway, Katie Marinello: So then they have a symphony that night. Claire Fisher: least realistic part of the entire plot is that anybody who's playing in an orchestra has any time for shenanigans. When you are in the orchestra, you are watching the conductor. You are not looking at Maddie in the audience. You are not looking at what your wife, the floes is looking at the violinist, looking at Maddie. No. You are watching the conductor. That is. Katie Marinello: Yeah. So Paula gets like on her hands and knees and like starts crawling towards him right Claire Fisher: right in the middle of a Katie Marinello: in the middle of a performance. And then he start and then he starts playing the wrong song. He starts playing the song that he's been writing because he's solved the mystery because of how he's gonna finish [00:34:00] this song because Maddie is so beautiful. They have said three words to each other. Claire Fisher: Right. And they were all lies too, Katie Marinello: Right? Right. And I can believe that a 20 some odd young man is so taken by her that he falls in love with her. I cannot believe that she falls for him. 'Cause there's nothing, there's no real indication between them that there's anything going on. And she is this like hardened CIA agent, but of course she's a female agent, so of course she's gonna turn. You know, fall in love with him because Claire Fisher: Yeah. Katie Marinello: she invites him back to her hotel room. Claire Fisher: Bryan says this, the sequence is every music nerd's dream Katie Marinello: 'cause she falls in love with him because he plays Claire Fisher: the Katie Marinello: the song for her. Claire Fisher: Yeah. Bryan said playing some music and getting a panty drop out of it is like people dream of when they go to learn an Katie Marinello: Especially when you're a violinist. It can't happen that often. Claire Fisher: No, not that often. Right.[00:35:00] Katie Marinello: But he um, Claire Fisher: sequence in the whole Katie Marinello: yes, I agree because the entire CIA is like sitting behind the mirror. Claire Fisher: right? Katie Marinello: Right. Watching them in the living room. And then they move into the bedroom and the whole CIA gets up and moves to a different viewing area. Area to watch them in the bedroom. Claire Fisher: the whole CIA is like toasting them with champagne Katie Marinello: Right, right. They toast champagne, then they all take champagne. Yes. Claire Fisher: and she gets her hair stuck in his fly and he's like, do you have a pair of scissors around or something? And they have to scooch while hooked together and. She, Katie Marinello: And then she comes into the back where they're all viewing and says, this man is not an agent. And they're like, get back in there. Claire Fisher: but she has his pants still stuck to her hair when she is saying this man is not an agent Katie Marinello: Right? Claire Fisher: and he meanwhile has her towel wrapped around his waist and wants to play for her. The song he finally finished after meeting her, he thinks that he's gonna dedicate it to her, [00:36:00] right? And then, you know, the report from ver slash Reese is, well, he played the violin twice and now they're making love again. Sir, Katie Marinello: Yeah. So, and there's a literal fade to black 'cause she turns the lights out, which apparently means the CIA can't see them, which is just Claire Fisher: Very careless of them to leave the infrared at home. Katie Marinello: Right. I watch a lot of hidden camera, not hidden camera, but surveillance camera reality shows. You can see when people are having sex in the dark. Claire Fisher: Can you, Katie? Katie Marinello: Yes. Claire Fisher: I Katie Marinello: When there's a certain kind of camera set up. Yes. Just watch Summer House. Claire Fisher: they uh, they broadcast this on television. Katie Marinello: They do. They do. Claire Fisher: Okay. Well, we've all learned a little bit about the death of content in this country. Katie Marinello: Oh. 'cause content was so good back in 1985. Claire Fisher: This wasn't content. It [00:37:00] was a movie. Katie Marinello: You know what, Claire, I think you're preoccupied with 19. 1985. Claire Fisher: Okay. That song came out in 2002, which means if we made one today, it would be about 2008. Katie Marinello: Yeah, I know Claire Fisher: Yeah. Katie Marinello: they have, in fact, they have made one. Claire Fisher: Yeah, but it wasn't very good. What from 2008 do you focus on? Katie Marinello: Obama Jersey Shore, Claire Fisher: Oh God. No. Katie Marinello: was Snookie Obama way before. Claire Fisher: Snookie was 2010. Katie Marinello: No, she was not. They ended in 29 2009. Claire Fisher: No, really, Katie Marinello: Yeah. Claire Fisher: I got punched in the face my freshman year of college, someone said I'd gotten Snooki. Katie Marinello: Yeah. They ended, Claire Fisher: year. It Katie Marinello: sorry. They ended in 2 20 12. But they were definitely odd in 2008 because she supported McCain over Obama, because Obama wanted to tax tanning beds. And she [00:38:00] said, Claire Fisher: conversation. Katie Marinello: she said, you started it. She said, Claire Fisher: This is a conversation. Katie Marinello: she said, obviously Obama doesn't need a tanning bed. Claire Fisher: Okay. Okay. We're just gonna step right past that and also the Katie Marinello: Snooky Obama. Way before your mama. Claire Fisher: it was way after your mama. Katie Marinello: Way after your mama. Claire Fisher: Okay. Katie Marinello: Don't you cut a single word outta the sound. Claire Fisher: Do you think people wanna know the story of how I got punched in the face Katie Marinello: No, Claire Fisher: Okay. No. Okay. Katie Marinello: we're just gonna slide on past that one. Claire Fisher: Okay. There's really nothing good to say about this movie, but uh. Katie Marinello: but I love anytime that I can force Claire to, listen to me talk about reality television because it is relevant to the conversation anyway. So either the violin or the penis, or [00:39:00] both have apparently given the CIA agent a change of heart. Claire Fisher: No, it's the flowers and candy that he sends the next day, because when they're ripping it apart for bugs, she says, oh, do you know how long it's been since I had flowers and candy from anyone? Katie Marinello: Yeah, but I think she had kind of changed her mind before that. Claire Fisher: No. I think she, she likes that he was gentleman enough to send flowers the next day. Katie Marinello: Yes, that too. Claire Fisher: Meanwhile, Cooper's gonna order him liquidated Katie Marinello: Right? Because he's annoyed. Yes. Claire Fisher: second thoughts about having picked him, Katie Marinello: So Brown goes to Claire Fisher: Ross. Katie Marinello: Ross and says, What's gonna happen to him? Claire Fisher: Ross says, Brown, you're not being paid to be a philosopher. Save it to your, you're retired. Save him for your memoirs. And is just gonna let this guy get Katie Marinello: Mm-hmm. Claire Fisher: Totally innocent, this guy who still doesn't know there's anything going on, who thinks he just had a date with this woman? Katie Marinello: Yeah. Claire Fisher: organically. Right? Katie Marinello: Is totally fine [00:40:00] having him murdered because he wants to stay in power and that's all that matters to him. Claire Fisher: Yeah. Which is actually somewhat period accurate to how the CIA was run in the 1980s. If you believe anything, the 9/11 Commission Report ended up writing on the Katie Marinello: I'm sure that's true. But Brown having been the one who actually had to pick this Porsche muck out of a crowd decides he's not gonna let that happen. Claire Fisher: Yeah. He's gonna have Verden slash Reese protect him Katie Marinello: Right. So they, he says, I told you to call them off, and he said, oh, I just assumed you would want me to tighten up security to protect the innocent. Claire Fisher: Right, so this kicks off the third act. Paula calling Richard jealous because he's seeing Maddy, two timing her while she's, two-timing her husband, and she's like, I'll do anything you say. I'll leave Morris. You don't even have to play Tarzan. But Morris overhears the conversation Katie Marinello: Yeah. Very sloppy on her part. But to be fair, she's not a CIA agent. She's a flattest. Claire Fisher: and an adulteress. [00:41:00] So she immediately says to Morris, I can explain everything. But Morris decides to grab his gun and take a cab over to kill Richard sleeping with Katie Marinello: The only part that, maybe uh, giggled a little bit was when he says to the Capy, how much do I owe you? But he is got a gun in his hand and he's like, this one's on me. Claire Fisher: I was headed this way anyhow. Right? So Maddie meanwhile calls Richard and says, I'm gonna have to leave the country and can never see you again. I'm around the corner in a coffee shop and she sees the liquidation squad coming for her 'cause she wasn't supposed to warn Katie Marinello: Mm-hmm. Claire Fisher: Richard comes running out to see if she's okay. Meanwhile, spy versus spy, the liquidation squad coming for him runs into Verden slash Reese. one of them accidentally lights a cigar that Morris had given Richard, which is an exploding cigar. Mm-hmm. Everybody, they end up shooting each other. Verdin ends up knocking out Reese 'cause he's sick of his chatter. [00:42:00] And then, Cooper ends up shooting Verdan through the window thinking that's So when Morris gets over there to murder, Richard. Katie Marinello: There are three dead bodies. Claire Fisher: bodies in the apartment. He runs outside and says to Richard, oh God, there's three dead bodies in your apartment. And Richard says, oh yeah. And yesterday Paula was in the back of an ambulance and Katie Marinello: right, right, right, right. Claire Fisher: And of course, by the time they get back, the bodies have been moved by the CIA right. And Richard says, Morris, you should have a drink. And Morris goes to get a drink and there's a body stuff in the fridge. And then he Katie Marinello: Was it a body or was it, I thought that was the. Claire Fisher: hiding or something, Katie Marinello: Yeah. And I don't think the CIA moved the bodies. I think Verden did. He's like moving the bodies all over the place. Claire Fisher: So these bodies keep disappearing and Morris is beginning to lose it and Richard just thinks Morris is playing one of his other stupid Katie Marinello: Right. Claire Fisher: But then they see through the window, Richard sees Maddie outside being forced into a car by [00:43:00] the two other agents. So he thinks she's being kidnapped, Katie Marinello: Which she is. Claire Fisher: Outside to give Chase on his bike. And Morris comes outta the bathroom and finds a third body, which yet another body which is Verdan, who's been shot through the Katie Marinello: Mm-hmm. Claire Fisher: Shouts. Oh, come on. Katie Marinello: Yeah. Claire Fisher: Right. Richard rescues Maddie out of the car and says, is there something going on I should know about? She says, are you a spy? He says, I'm no more a spy than you're a spy. And she says, Richard, I am a spy. Katie Marinello: Yep. And then she, that's when they're on the subway Claire Fisher: Yeah. So Katie Marinello: or the metro. Claire Fisher: yeah. They run from the metro into the Senate hearing and Cooper follows them brandishing his gun. And it used to be illegal to brandish guns inside the US Capitol. So he gets around, he Katie Marinello: Used to be. Claire Fisher: Yeah, exactly. Used to be. Katie Marinello: Yep. Claire Fisher: he gets grabbed and Maddie finds a way to testify against him in exchange for not being burned as a, as CIA asset. Katie Marinello: Right. Claire Fisher: Brown becomes director of CIA Katie Marinello: Not super clear how [00:44:00] that happens, but Sure fine. Claire Fisher: Ross behind Richard visits Morris at the mental institution. Katie Marinello: Okay. Yes. So this is the end of Paula's Storyline. So they're at a sanitarium. Paula: he's doing so much better now. They're giving him a lot less tranquilizers. Richard: Oh, well now that's good news. That is, yeah. Paula: Um, Richard, I, I, I wanted to talk to you about something. Okay. Morris needs me now and mm-hmm. I, I, I just want to do the right thing. I, uh, I. Gotta go. Uh, you're gonna be all right, aren't you? Richard: Yes. Bye bye bye. Katie Marinello: Morris is up in a tree. Claire Fisher: at doing the Tarzan Katie Marinello: Yep. Claire Fisher: she says, I gotta go. And Morris pulls her up into [00:45:00] the tree and then waves goodbye to Richard. Katie Marinello: Yep. Claire Fisher: Who rides off into Katie Marinello: So their, their, their marriage is stronger than ever, Claire Fisher: They reaffirmed their mutual kink. Katie Marinello: I guess. So Claire Fisher: they reconnect. Katie Marinello: Uhhuh and then, yeah. And then Richard goes and kisses Maddie. They're off. And then that's when we find out that Brown is now CIA director. 'cause he says, we. Exchanged her freedom for her testimony or whatever. Claire Fisher: Yeah. So that's that. Bryan actually said, even though that wasn't super ever funny, I was a little bit entertained. And I was like, well, but it was supposed to be a comedy, Katie Marinello: I was not even remotely entertained. What was he entertained by? I'm curious. Claire Fisher: I don't know. He just thought that it trying to keep up with it was interesting. Katie Marinello: I was 45 minutes in and I was quoting to myself from the West Wing. They forgot to put the funny in. Claire Fisher: Yeah, they forgot to bring the funny, yeah, thought it was like [00:46:00] the editing, the pacing was just too slow for it really to be a spy versus spy riot Katie Marinello: Right, Claire Fisher: There are spy versus spy movies that can be funny, Katie Marinello: of course. Claire Fisher: and make no sense. Katie Marinello: Yeah. Claire Fisher: The stakes felt too serious for the levity. The funny wasn't fast enough to actually be funny Katie Marinello: Right. Claire Fisher: and it just ended up coming across as kind of confusing and distracting. Katie Marinello: I have to agree with Tom Hanks here. It wasn't really about anything. Claire Fisher: No, it really wasn't about anything. It just didn't gel. It didn't really Katie Marinello: Mm-hmm. Claire Fisher: As a plot, you know? At least in my opinion. Katie Marinello: No, I guess I'm biased here, but the most fully realized character to me, I think was Paula, because at least we knew something about her, Claire Fisher: Right. Katie Marinello: you know, she's not just reacting to the things that are happening around I don't know, like he's so I don't know, we, I guess we learned stuff about Richard, but he just feels very, like he's just reacting to what's happening around him kind of thing, Claire Fisher: Yeah. Katie Marinello: but not even reacting properly. But [00:47:00] yeah, they're all stock characters, so there's not really. Claire Fisher: Yeah I guess I am interested in whether the original was somehow more tightly plotted. I dunno I am not gonna track down an obscure French film just to see if it's any better than the American remake, but I Katie Marinello: We probably wouldn't necessarily know because it would probably be different when it's dubbed over in English. Right. Claire Fisher: You underestimate my power. Katie Marinello: You think you're gonna understand French humor? Claire Fisher: I think I watch a lot of movies with subtitles and laugh Katie Marinello: Okay. Claire Fisher: anyway. No. I'm not gonna track down the French original, but I want to know, I wish there were someone I could ask, like, when they picked that to be remade in America what were they going Katie Marinello: Right. Well, what was the joke in their mind? Claire Fisher: nobody makes a movie thinking it's gonna be a bad movie and Katie Marinello: Right. Claire Fisher: thinking they're gonna make a movie about nothing. [00:48:00] Right. What was this supposed to be some kind of commentary? Katie Marinello: Right. Well, I feel like it could have easily been a commentary on the CIA or government waste or corruption, any of that, but there was none of that. Claire Fisher: The one thing that they say on IMDB, and this is Unsourced, so I don't really know, was that they were taking some inspiration from the Mad Magazine spy versus spy comic strip but that's totally unsourced and nothing about the aesthetics here Katie Marinello: Yeah. No. Claire Fisher: So I don't even know if that's Katie Marinello: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Claire Fisher: I don't know. There's a funny story in here somewhere. Katie Marinello: No, I definitely was like, I can feel where I'm supposed to laugh, but I'm not inspired to do so. Claire Fisher: Yeah. Yeah. So. Katie Marinello: So Paula, Claire Fisher: Oh, well, I mean, she doesn't get a lot to do. Katie Marinello: she's really not on screen for very long, but I mean, it's not good [00:49:00] agency because she's kind of a predator. Claire Fisher: I'm gonna say one, I didn't think this character was very much of a Katie Marinello: Mm. Yeah. At most I would give her a 1.5 Claire Fisher: Yeah. Katie Marinello: because I think she has slightly more agency than anyone else in the movie. Claire Fisher: oh, maybe, but yeah I was not impressed. Katie Marinello: No, God no. At least any of the other civilians. Claire Fisher: I mean, we keep asking who's her agent, but we have to ask ourselves like, why does she keep saying yes? Right. Like Katie Marinello: Well, I think we know why she keeps saying yes. Claire Fisher: money, Katie Marinello: Yeah, Claire Fisher: yeah. Katie Marinello: money and insecurity. I think, I mean, I don't think she was being offered like a whole lot of well developed, interesting roles at this point. Claire Fisher: Yeah. Katie Marinello: she was probably very aware of how quickly fame could go away because [00:50:00] she'd seen her mother go up and down and up and down in her career And lose everything numerous times over because her second husband stole all her money. And then I think her third husband stole everything she'd made since then. Claire Fisher: Yeah. Katie Marinello: And later in life, I think after this she had to sell all of her old Hollywood memorabilia in order to live in retirement. And Carrie's father was never around. Claire Fisher: All Katie Marinello: I think she felt like she had to work and this is what she knew how to do. And I don't feel like she was an actress who could necessarily afford to say no. Plus we don't have much money she was spending on cocaine at this point. Claire Fisher: We do have it on, good authority. She was spending far too much money on drugs, Katie Marinello: Yeah. So, Claire Fisher: by the late eighties. So, yeah. Katie Marinello: yeah. So it's a tough business and you have to pay your dues and all that good stuff, but she'd already done the thing that she was gonna be known for. Claire Fisher: [00:51:00] Yeah, I guess that's true. Well, she would work with Tom Hanks again in The Burbs four years later. So, Katie Marinello: hopefully that does both of them more justice. Claire Fisher: Yeah hopefully. Katie Marinello: We'll find out. I. Claire Fisher: you mentioned one of the antagonists is in You've Got Mail. I was like, Katie Marinello: I know. Claire Fisher: Tom Hanks were ever like, damn, that was an awful Katie Marinello: I know, I know. I think it's his dad. Claire Fisher: right. Katie Marinello: The publisher. Yeah. Claire Fisher: yeah, that was a terrible Katie Marinello: Yeah. Claire Fisher: All right, coming up next. We have happily ever after an animated made for TV movie. What? Katie Marinello: I, Claire Fisher: Okay, Katie is laughing because there are two movies named Happily Ever After in 1985, and one of them is a very dark sex comedy, a sex drama, and the other is an animated movie about a third grader whose [00:52:00] parents are getting divorced. Katie Marinello: so that's the one we're watching. It's not the, Claire Fisher: so. Katie Marinello: It's Claire Fisher: we ought to watch both in the interest Katie Marinello: Wait, which one is Carrie? Claire Fisher: Carrie is in the animated. Katie Marinello: Oh, thank God. Okay. All right. Claire Fisher: do not know how I'm going to get access to watch this, but I have faith in us, Katie Marinello: Molly And the Skywalkers. That can't be a coincidence. Carol Burnett. Danny DeVito. Carrie Fisher. All right. Claire Fisher: to look up where you can even watch this, and the answer is you can't. Katie Marinello: Okay. Well we will, Claire Fisher: if we're actually gonna be able to get this, but we will try. Katie Marinello: we always will. We're we will do our darnest Claire Fisher: I believe in us. We'll find a way Katie Marinello: yes. Alright. And until then, Claire Fisher: until then. Just remember if my life weren't funny, it would just be true. Katie Marinello: and that's unacceptable. Thanks for listening to another episode of Carried [00:53:00] Far, far Away. 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