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Intro:
A production of Pioneer Utility Resources.

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StoryConnect, helping communicators discover ideas to shape
their stories and connect with their customers.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
How do you weave compelling narratives into your marketing
strategy?

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That's what we'll be talking about on this episode of The
StoryConnect Podcast.

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Hi, I'm your host, Megan McKoy-Noe, one of the storytellers at
Pioneer Utility Resources, and I am joined by Wendy Crenner.

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She's the director of marketing and brand awareness, which nice
title.

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Wendy Crenner:
Thank you.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
I have to say, at SC Telecom in Kansas, and we are podcasting
from the Calix ConneXions Conference.

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So we'd like to say that any background noise that you might
notice, it's ambiance to set the mood for inspiration.

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Are you feeling inspired?

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Wendy Crenner:
I like it. I am very much, yes.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
Oh, it's wonderful. And we even have, this is amazing, I love
Calix where folks just things, connections just happen.

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It's a beautiful thing. So Justin Bell from Kanokla, which is
close to you, I believe.

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Wendy Crenner:
Yes. Very close.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
So he is here, and he's actually taking some video from the side
to help us get a really beautiful view of what it's like

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to hear ideas from you, Wendy.

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So no pressure at all.

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Wendy Crenner:
No pressure. Nope.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
No, no. But we thank you, Justin, for just adding another angle
to storytelling.

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That's what we're all about, right?

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Wendy Crenner:
Absolutely.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
So Wendy, thank you so much for joining us.

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And I have to say before we even dive into this,
congratulations, right?

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SC Telecom won a 2024 Smart Rural Community Showcase award,
which is huge.

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I mean, it's amazing for developing a community-wide Wi-Fi
coverage program to make sure that folks can connect to first

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responders anywhere in the community.

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Is that a good way to describe it?

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Wendy Crenner:
Absolutely, yes.

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We have some access points in public spaces and in a lot of our
communities, they had little to

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no cellular coverage.

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So obviously that posed a very high safety security risk.

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So yeah, they are thrilled with the solution.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
Well, it's such a powerful service and something that I think a
lot of folks can say, oh, we should we should check into that.

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We should do that. So, thanks for doing that.

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I know you're going to be speaking about that in part just for
making that kind of an impact in your community.

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And I think it goes back to what SC Telecom is and how much you
believe in the power of community.

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Wendy Crenner:
Absolutely. It definitely falls in line with one of our brand
values.

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Invest in our neighbors, and we really, truly believe that and
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Megan McKoy-Noe:
I can tell. Well, you spoke on a panel about how SC Telecom
harnesses the power of community and compelling narratives

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that you're telling about your community and in your community,
and you harness all that into your marketing strategy.

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Can you share the top ways that your team does this?

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Wendy Crenner:
Yes, absolutely.

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I think there's many, many ways to approach that.

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But I think the first one for us is to get involved in your
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You know, SC Telecom supports our communities financially,
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to dedicate their time.

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You know, if they have something that they're passionate about
within those communities, SC Telecom supports those.

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We also like to do in person events in our different
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That's a great way to interact.

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We participate in, you know, the local parades and the local 4-H
celebrations.

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And to me, that's really showing our communities that we care,
and we're building that trust with them.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
Well, you're present.

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You're not just giving them money or whatnot.

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Wendy Crenner:
Absolutely. Which both are important.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
They are.

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Wendy Crenner:
But, you know, sometimes I think organizations forget about the
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you know, devote time to something they are passionate about.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
What are some examples of groups that your employees volunteer
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Wendy Crenner:
So we do blood drives.

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We also, we have smaller communities, and they have the 4-H
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So we have a lot of employees that will volunteer their time to
help clean up the grounds prior to the event.

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And then we also have some employees that have personal, you
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We have one employee that's very passionate about muscular
dystrophy, and so we support him.

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You know, we allow him to take time to do what he needs to do to
raise money for that.

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So I think all of those are really important, you know, to
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Megan McKoy-Noe:
Sure. So you are identifying the passions of your staff and
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initiatives and making it possible for them to spend more time
in the community.

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And I think especially, you know, October is cooperative month,
I get giddy about co-ops.

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So I think concern for community, we all get.

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But then how do you take that and turn it into a compelling
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Because sometimes we don't like to toot our own horn, you know?

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So how can you make that tie?

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Bridge it from "Yes, we do amazing things in our community, and
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marketing strategy?

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Wendy Crenner:
Absolutely. And I struggle with that a lot.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
We all do.

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Wendy Crenner:
Because, you know, you don't want to feel like you're tooting
your own horn.

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But I think to take those stories and, like you said, turn them
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And so it's not just about us, you know, we're not just tooting
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We're promoting something that's valuable within that community
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So I think there is a fine line.

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We also do a lot of employee surveys.

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So we take that feedback, and we turn that into a story as well.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
How? Wait how do you do that?

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We all do those surveys, but –

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Wendy Crenner:
Yeah, absolutely.

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Well, obviously we use the feedback to improve our services, but
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feedback, and it's a great testimonial.

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And we can turn that into, you know, a story on our page.

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And sometimes we even reach out to those customers that have
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they're willing to provide a little bit more meat to the story,
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Megan McKoy-Noe:
Can you give me an example of a story that came out of that?

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Wendy Crenner:
So we recently had a very rural deployment fiber build, and we
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people. They did not think that it was going to be possible for
them ever to get fiber internet.

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And so when we were able to provide that, and they see the
benefits of that.

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And so she actually reached out and told, you know, she had a
long thank you to us and our team.

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And so those are just really great, great stories, and you know,
you're doing what you're supposed to be doing.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
Well, it's like a before and after shot.

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You know how you see the before and after for bathrooms or
kitchens or whatever folks are redoing.

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It's giving folks a before and after shot of fiber and broadband
access, which is kind of fun visually.

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That leaves a lot of interesting ideas in my head.

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Wendy Crenner:
And how it can improve their lives.

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You know, if you're someone that's always had that, you don't
see –

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
You don't get it.

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Wendy Crenner:
Yeah, you don't get it until you don't.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
And now these folks got it.

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I'm telling you, Wendy, we could have fun.

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We could brainstorm.

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I know the listeners are like, "All right, Megan, calm down,"
but I get excited about that.

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Well, and your campaign tagline, because I, you know, I get
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websites and just see what they're up to.

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And I got to tell you, it's connecting deeper, which I thought
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And then one of your messages says "Connecting people is your
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focus for that area.

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Another said you're not just making internet better; you're
making neighborhoods better.

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Which I think is a really nice spin.

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So often we forget, right, that the focus isn't on the wires.

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It's not on the, you know, I'm trying to think of random Wi-Fi
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coming to mind. But you know what I mean?

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Wendy Crenner:
Absolutely.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
It's not the gadgets, right?

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It's the people, and what you're making possible.

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Wendy Crenner:
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Megan McKoy-Noe:
So I love that you are weaving that into your marketing messages.

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Why does SC Telecom focus on community strength in so much of
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Wendy Crenner:
So you know, like I talked about, we really have a genuine
commitment to our local communities.

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We live, work and play, you know, in these communities.

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Our kids attend the schools, in the communities.

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We run into our neighbor at church or at the grocery store.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
And they hand you their bill to pay.

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Wendy Crenner:
Yes. And they have all these questions.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
So many questions.

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Wendy Crenner:
So many questions. But so we truly want our communities to view
us as a partner.

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It is a partnership, and we want what is best for our
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And we know that by providing that connection, is the only way
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communities to continue to thrive and to continue to grow.

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And so that's just really, really important to SC Telecom.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
Yeah. Well, and I think you take it a step further, and we
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programs like on your website.

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But also you do that when you're talking about how folks can
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wish more people would do.

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And your broadband packages, they don't focus on gigs.

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And I was talking to someone a couple of weeks ago and they're
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Who even cares?" It's not about the gig.

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And I think in our industry we get excited because gig is a
really fun word.

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It rhymes with things.

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It's short, so you can make it really big on a billboard.

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But at the end of the day, it's not telling me anything.

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So I just want folks to know your broadband packages, they don't
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So they have the connected family, high techies, home tech
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level. And I think my favorite might be the package for a simple
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I would like my life to have a simple, secure experience.

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Wendy Crenner:
We all would. Yes.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
Why does it matter what you call your packages?

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Have you had some debates on this internally?

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You know, how did they evolve into that?

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And how have your members, your subscribers, responded to this
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Wendy Crenner:
Sure. So a lot of the feedback and the way we decided to move
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offerings is because of the feedback that, you know, the
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talking to the customers every day.

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You know, again, like you stated, speeds don't mean anything.

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If someone had one gig or 100 mbps, they may choose 100 mbps
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So we know that that doesn't work.

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And to the few that maybe do get it, that speed isn't enough.

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It's about the experience.

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You know, when we get feedback, testimonials, they're not saying
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allowing me to work from home." Or "Thank you for allowing my
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buffering." And so we feel like it's just speaking their
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We're making the experience a more personalized experience for
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Megan McKoy-Noe:
Wait, so you're saying that we shouldn't talk industry speak and
jargon?

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Wendy Crenner:
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
But we don't even realize we're doing it sometimes.

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Wendy Crenner:
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And I think, you know, it's just always been focus on speed and
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We were going on about three months now, and it's been really
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I feel like it's an easier – we don't like to use the term sell 
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customer experience specialist to visit with potential
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Because they can take a look at the package name and maybe the
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and they can identify with one of those.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
I have to first point out that you said your folks are visiting
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I think that's huge.

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That's the way that y'all talk about it.

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Wendy Crenner:
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Megan McKoy-Noe:
And, you know, getting to know them.

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You know, I was just in a session with Alex Carter, and she was
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and how really good communication helps you.

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She was speaking on negotiating, but really it's about
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And one of the questions she said was, "What is your problem?"
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And then "How can I help?" And that's what you're setting folks
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You're asking them what kind of a solution, what's your
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And then which one of these lifestyle kits can meet that
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Wendy Crenner:
Can fix that solution for you.

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Absolutely. And it really is.

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It's just having a conversation with that potential customer,
just as you and I are sitting here talking.

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Do you have children in the home, like you said?

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What's your biggest struggle right now with your current
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Just very basic questions that, but you can also gain a lot of
information if they come in, if they walk in.

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You know, there's a lot of cues that you can take to kind of
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Megan McKoy-Noe:
So I've got to ask, you said you made this shift in your
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What kind of training did you give your CSRs to make sure they
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different levels?

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Wendy Crenner:
I love that question.

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We actually just did a really fun.

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So, of course, we've had handouts and  gone through the whole
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Megan McKoy-Noe:
PowerPoints. Yay!

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Wendy Crenner:
Yeah. Everybody loves a good PowerPoint.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
Mhm. We'll talk about that later.

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Wendy Crenner:
Right.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
So yes. So y'all did that.

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Wendy Crenner:
So we had an all employee meeting, and we did some role playing.

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And it was super, super fun.

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We had some employees dress up as a different persona.

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So you know, I may be a college kid or a young couple that is
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types of – and it was so much fun.

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You know, we had one employee that had a really good time with
this and, yeah, it was fun.

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But it was an interactive way, and we feel like doing it that
way, they're going to remember.

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They're going to remember those questions.

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Well what questions did I ask at that time?

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
Did you give them cue cards or anything?

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Wendy Crenner:
No, no cue cards.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
You just threw them in there. Good luck.

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Wendy Crenner:
Just threw em in there.

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Yes, absolutely.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
You're Calix panel also tackled offers to attract new
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And offers are a weird thing.

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Like, should we offer something like give them a discount when
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What's going to convince folks to do this?

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So what kind of values based offers seem to work well for you
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Wendy Crenner:
So over the last year, like we've talked about, we deployed that
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And that is a true value based.

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It is, if you're a subscriber, you get to join that.

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There's no extra charge for that.

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We also make that available to guests as they come in, you know,
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baseball game. So that's available for guests as well.

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But that value base, we have gotten great, great feedback from
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They love to be able, you know, we look at it as we want them to
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So in their home, obviously, we have that.

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But then as they, you know, move through their neighborhoods and
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And so we think that that value based offer really sets us apart
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We also feel like as an internet provider, your subscribers just
expect you to keep them safe online.

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It's just, you know, it just goes hand-in-hand.

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They just, they feel like you need to take charge there, and so
we do.

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So our security protection comes with all of our packages as
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You know, there's a lot of times they don't know how to go about
doing it.

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They don't know how to protect themselves.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
You just do it for them.

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Wendy Crenner:
Yeah, absolutely.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
And then you tell them, "We've got your back."

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Wendy Crenner:
Absolutely. Build that trust.

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Build brand loyalty.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
What? It all falls into place.

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All right, one last question before I let you go.

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Wendy Crenner:
Absolutely.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
Because I could talk to you all day, Wendy.

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I get excited, I tell you.

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But what advice would you give a utility pioneer who is looking
for ways to strengthen their community storytelling?

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Wendy Crenner:
So I would say keep it real.

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Use real people, tell real stories.

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For us, when we use real people in our

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stories, those are our best engaged social media posts, organic
posts.

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All the time.

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Your employees as well, use your employees in those.

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But I think just to keep it real and tell your story.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
I love that so much, Wendy.

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Well, thank you for sharing your story with utility pioneers.

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She is Wendy Crenner from SC Telecom, and I'm your host Megan
McKoy-Noe at Pioneer Utility Resources.

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And until we talk again, keep telling your story.

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Outro:
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