WEBVTT Kind: captions Language: en-GB 00:00:08.210 --> 00:00:10.490 I'm Travis Bader and this is The 00:00:10.490 --> 00:00:11.630 Silvercore Podcast. 00:00:13.310 --> 00:00:15.140 Join me as I discuss matters related to 00:00:15.140 --> 00:00:17.180 hunting, fishing, and outdoor pursuits 00:00:17.450 --> 00:00:19.380 with the people and businesses that comprise 00:00:19.380 --> 00:00:20.060 of the community. 00:00:20.850 --> 00:00:22.770 If you're new to Silvercore, be sure to 00:00:22.770 --> 00:00:26.530 check out our website, www.Silvercore.ca where 00:00:26.710 --> 00:00:29.280 you can learn more about courses, services and 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:31.470 products that we offer as well as how you can 00:00:31.470 --> 00:00:34.110 join The Silvercore Club, which includes 10 million 00:00:34.110 --> 00:00:36.550 in North America wide liability insurance to 00:00:36.550 --> 00:00:38.790 ensure you are properly covered during your 00:00:38.790 --> 00:00:41.220 outdoor adventures. 00:00:43.100 --> 00:00:44.090 Time is running out. 00:00:44.630 --> 00:00:46.910 BradleySmoker.com is giving one lucky 00:00:46.910 --> 00:00:50.019 Silvercore member a brand new Pro P10 00:00:50.019 --> 00:00:52.000 Smoker and the winner will be announced on 00:00:52.000 --> 00:00:53.290 an upcoming podcast. 00:00:53.830 --> 00:00:56.290 Already a member, and want 20% off everything 00:00:56.290 --> 00:00:58.450 Bradley has other website for the month of July? 00:00:59.110 --> 00:01:01.239 Check our member area on the Silvercore website 00:01:01.399 --> 00:01:03.580 for your coupon code as well as discounts on 00:01:03.610 --> 00:01:04.870 tons of other products. 00:01:08.770 --> 00:01:11.200 So I'm sitting down with Matt Stewart, Roy 00:01:11.230 --> 00:01:12.340 Canda, and Greg Miller. 00:01:12.990 --> 00:01:14.520 And it couldn't be more timely. 00:01:14.550 --> 00:01:17.760 So today we sent out an email a couple of 00:01:17.760 --> 00:01:22.200 hours ago, we've had about, I'm looking 105, 00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:27.740 we had 105 responses so far and essentially it 00:01:27.740 --> 00:01:29.330 was an email that went out, asking people, 00:01:29.330 --> 00:01:31.250 what do they want to see from Silvercore? 00:01:31.550 --> 00:01:33.500 And a number of people are talking about hunting 00:01:33.500 --> 00:01:35.630 and one guy came up, he said, I'm preparing 00:01:35.630 --> 00:01:37.340 to go hunting for the first time this fall, 00:01:37.880 --> 00:01:40.220 a podcast discussing strategies for first 00:01:40.220 --> 00:01:42.645 time, hunters would be appreciated, thank you. 00:01:43.695 --> 00:01:45.405 So this couldn't be better because we 00:01:45.405 --> 00:01:49.395 have some new-ish hunters here. 00:01:50.145 --> 00:01:54.615 So Matt, Roy, you guys got into hunting what? 00:01:55.304 --> 00:01:56.445 But a year ago, two years ago? 00:01:57.705 --> 00:01:58.815 Two years ago. 00:01:58.975 --> 00:01:59.875 I think we're a lil bit more than 00:01:59.925 --> 00:02:00.675 two years ago yeah. 00:02:00.854 --> 00:02:02.775 Yeah we took a hunting course together. 00:02:03.345 --> 00:02:05.634 I wanted to get my firearms license, 00:02:05.655 --> 00:02:07.485 for actually a handgun to start. 00:02:07.515 --> 00:02:09.884 I did not think about hunting until 00:02:09.884 --> 00:02:12.495 they asked us why we wanted a firearm. 00:02:12.734 --> 00:02:14.505 And Matt had said for hunting, then I just 00:02:14.505 --> 00:02:15.195 copied his answer. 00:02:17.945 --> 00:02:19.655 Well, I don't count the first year as hunting. 00:02:19.655 --> 00:02:21.575 That was like, I don't know. 00:02:22.475 --> 00:02:24.815 Lots of crazy, well, not lots of crazy stuff 00:02:24.815 --> 00:02:26.975 happened, but we didn't know what we were doing. 00:02:27.005 --> 00:02:29.045 So I don't, you don't count the first. 00:02:30.195 --> 00:02:31.454 I don't know, two months. 00:02:31.785 --> 00:02:32.655 No, there's no way. 00:02:32.744 --> 00:02:34.215 We had no idea what we were doing. 00:02:34.334 --> 00:02:36.135 We watched a lot of videos, but still were 00:02:36.135 --> 00:02:39.015 very unsure of how to approach it and what 00:02:39.015 --> 00:02:39.915 to do and where to go. 00:02:40.475 --> 00:02:43.415 And you guys, aren't your stereotypical hunters, 00:02:43.475 --> 00:02:45.695 like when you think about Elmer Fudd out there, 00:02:46.265 --> 00:02:48.524 traipse around with his shotgun and coveralls. 00:02:49.095 --> 00:02:51.665 Why don't you give a little bit, just a short 00:02:51.665 --> 00:02:54.775 bio background about yourselves and we can 00:02:54.775 --> 00:02:55.625 kind of get rolling. 00:02:56.610 --> 00:02:57.210 Sure. 00:02:57.660 --> 00:02:59.430 Nobody in my family is into hunting. 00:02:59.430 --> 00:03:01.530 Like had a cousin in Alberta who is into it. 00:03:01.560 --> 00:03:04.650 My dad, he was a fisherman, but he wasn't 00:03:04.650 --> 00:03:05.730 into hunting at all. 00:03:06.150 --> 00:03:08.070 I went out once with a neighbor, I thought it 00:03:08.070 --> 00:03:11.070 was kind of cool, but I never thought about it as 00:03:11.070 --> 00:03:14.550 a kid, even as a really adult, I dunno, I just, 00:03:14.550 --> 00:03:15.420 didn't come to mind. 00:03:15.450 --> 00:03:19.980 So, you know, I'm more of a business 00:03:19.980 --> 00:03:24.900 person, so, nobody at work does it like, 00:03:24.900 --> 00:03:26.340 it's just not at all. 00:03:26.370 --> 00:03:27.600 You have no family background. 00:03:27.600 --> 00:03:28.770 No, no family back. 00:03:28.799 --> 00:03:29.430 No mentor. 00:03:29.430 --> 00:03:29.790 Really? 00:03:30.090 --> 00:03:31.170 No, no mentor. 00:03:31.350 --> 00:03:31.890 None at all. 00:03:31.890 --> 00:03:34.350 So yeah, it's totally out of the norm. 00:03:34.350 --> 00:03:35.910 Like yeah. 00:03:35.920 --> 00:03:38.760 Not even my wife, nobody in her family. 00:03:38.760 --> 00:03:39.180 Nobody 00:03:39.860 --> 00:03:40.740 And Roy, how bout you? 00:03:41.070 --> 00:03:42.220 Coming from an Indo-Canadian 00:03:42.240 --> 00:03:44.880 background, my dad, uncles, no one hunted. 00:03:45.180 --> 00:03:46.950 They all had firearms, they had pistols. 00:03:46.980 --> 00:03:48.840 They'd go shooting on the weekends and whatnot 00:03:48.840 --> 00:03:49.560 and we'd see them. 00:03:49.920 --> 00:03:51.040 Weren't allowed to touch them, weren't allowed to 00:03:51.040 --> 00:03:54.489 see, like handle them, but we just saw them. 00:03:54.489 --> 00:03:55.860 So there's always a fascination with 00:03:55.860 --> 00:03:57.630 firearms, but no one in our family 00:03:57.630 --> 00:04:00.540 hunting, fishing, tenting for us was 00:04:00.540 --> 00:04:01.880 staying at the motel 8. 00:04:02.280 --> 00:04:04.080 Like there was, there was nothing to do with 00:04:04.080 --> 00:04:05.340 the outdoors whatsoever. 00:04:06.030 --> 00:04:08.410 So zero hunting background, never 00:04:08.410 --> 00:04:10.470 went out, nothing, all brand new for us. 00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:14.510 And Greg, now you're getting into hunting and 00:04:14.510 --> 00:04:18.094 so much as you're, you're learning from, from 00:04:18.104 --> 00:04:19.654 Matt and from Roy here. 00:04:19.834 --> 00:04:20.135 Yeah. 00:04:20.135 --> 00:04:22.265 It was just one of those things, I think I went 00:04:22.325 --> 00:04:24.094 with these two guys when they first bought their, 00:04:24.094 --> 00:04:26.734 their first rifles and, they went through the 00:04:26.734 --> 00:04:27.544 process at the time. 00:04:27.544 --> 00:04:29.495 I wasn't, didn't have the time to take the 00:04:29.495 --> 00:04:30.844 course and commit to it. 00:04:31.590 --> 00:04:33.510 And then they started going out and I mean, 00:04:33.510 --> 00:04:35.310 we golfed together, we fished together. 00:04:35.310 --> 00:04:37.050 We do a lot of activities, outdoor 00:04:37.050 --> 00:04:39.780 activities, and it was, they said, Hey, why 00:04:39.780 --> 00:04:40.960 don't you come in and just see what it's like. 00:04:41.280 --> 00:04:43.140 I love the water, I love being on boats, 00:04:43.500 --> 00:04:45.060 I've been around boats my whole life. 00:04:45.090 --> 00:04:46.620 And so I figured, Hey, if I can go out and 00:04:46.620 --> 00:04:48.900 help to start off with and just see what it's 00:04:48.900 --> 00:04:51.120 like, and you know, if I can help with the set 00:04:51.120 --> 00:04:53.659 up or get them out there and, you know, go do 00:04:53.659 --> 00:04:54.930 recoveries or so be it. 00:04:54.930 --> 00:04:56.500 And I would, I would help out where I can. 00:04:56.520 --> 00:04:58.630 So for sure it's something I, I'll 00:04:58.630 --> 00:05:00.070 finally get my license eventually. 00:05:00.070 --> 00:05:01.360 It's just a matter of trying to find 00:05:01.390 --> 00:05:02.980 the time more than more than anything. 00:05:03.390 --> 00:05:03.570 Yeah. 00:05:03.570 --> 00:05:04.890 And for the listeners out here, we're 00:05:04.890 --> 00:05:08.190 primarily talking about waterfowl hunting and 00:05:08.250 --> 00:05:11.289 being out in the water now had Matt, Roy, 00:05:11.310 --> 00:05:13.260 have you guys had much experience on the water 00:05:13.260 --> 00:05:15.120 or is that a leaning on Greg a lot here? 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:16.350 Um. 00:05:16.470 --> 00:05:18.240 No Matt you got the fishing background. 00:05:18.420 --> 00:05:19.090 I fish. 00:05:19.090 --> 00:05:21.300 So I, you know, I have a boat, so I'm 00:05:21.300 --> 00:05:23.690 used to that, so that part was fine. 00:05:24.030 --> 00:05:26.450 Not really in the marsh, more down the river 00:05:26.450 --> 00:05:29.720 then, you know, out in the Gulf or whatever. 00:05:29.720 --> 00:05:33.120 But and then a bit with my dad being a fisherman 00:05:33.120 --> 00:05:35.610 too, but you know, it didn't really interest 00:05:35.610 --> 00:05:38.100 me back in the day, so it's still fairly new 00:05:38.100 --> 00:05:41.235 to me, but, you know, this is where Greg 00:05:41.265 --> 00:05:43.844 comes in and he's kind of our, make sure we. 00:05:43.914 --> 00:05:44.805 It's okay, you can say it. 00:05:44.895 --> 00:05:45.195 Yeah. 00:05:45.344 --> 00:05:46.605 He's our safety guy so. 00:05:46.665 --> 00:05:47.315 Or Papa bear. 00:05:47.505 --> 00:05:48.945 Yeah well he kind of makes sure 00:05:48.945 --> 00:05:49.665 we do it right. 00:05:49.665 --> 00:05:51.765 So lights on the boat going down the 00:05:51.765 --> 00:05:53.505 river when it's dark and stuff like that. 00:05:53.505 --> 00:05:55.515 Roy and I are more like hop in and go so. 00:05:56.005 --> 00:05:57.905 No, it's a big deal that we've got Greg 00:05:57.905 --> 00:05:59.775 on the team there because we, when we 00:05:59.795 --> 00:06:04.325 started out and I have zero water experience. 00:06:04.325 --> 00:06:06.065 Like I go with some experienced fishermen 00:06:06.125 --> 00:06:07.985 and before we even get to the dock, they put 00:06:07.985 --> 00:06:08.885 a life jacket on me. 00:06:09.345 --> 00:06:10.505 They want to make sure that we got 00:06:10.505 --> 00:06:12.015 Kanda, he's the only guy that can't swim. 00:06:12.365 --> 00:06:14.885 So for me, it's a big deal having guys 00:06:14.885 --> 00:06:16.425 that are into safety. 00:06:16.945 --> 00:06:18.840 When Matt and I started out, we'd go out in 00:06:18.840 --> 00:06:21.239 the fog and we'd do our best, sometimes we didn't 00:06:21.239 --> 00:06:23.159 have the lights and when Greg found out we didn't 00:06:23.159 --> 00:06:24.659 have lights, he kind of looked at us like, 00:06:24.659 --> 00:06:25.349 what are you guys doing? 00:06:25.830 --> 00:06:26.010 Right. 00:06:26.010 --> 00:06:26.790 He bought them for us. 00:06:26.790 --> 00:06:27.739 He bought them for us. 00:06:29.060 --> 00:06:31.369 And you know what, thank goodness he did because 00:06:31.369 --> 00:06:32.900 in times out there where we were like, Whoa, 00:06:32.929 --> 00:06:34.640 we need those lights, it's very important. 00:06:34.640 --> 00:06:36.749 So it's, for me, it's a big education thing, 00:06:37.239 --> 00:06:39.100 being with someone who knows about the water 00:06:39.100 --> 00:06:40.810 cause I don't know anything about the water. 00:06:40.930 --> 00:06:41.080 Right. 00:06:41.080 --> 00:06:42.370 I'm not sure which way to go. 00:06:42.700 --> 00:06:44.290 A couple of times they've been trying to teach 00:06:44.290 --> 00:06:46.390 me how to drive the boat as well in case 00:06:46.390 --> 00:06:48.100 of emergency, which is great, cause I've never 00:06:48.100 --> 00:06:48.880 driven a boat before. 00:06:49.300 --> 00:06:51.130 So here, these guys are trying to coach me and 00:06:51.130 --> 00:06:53.500 teach me if I didn't have them, I'd be stuck. 00:06:53.940 --> 00:06:56.159 So your first time of going out, 00:06:56.159 --> 00:06:57.900 hunting, no mentors. 00:06:58.425 --> 00:07:00.375 Going in blind, what'd you, do you just, 00:07:00.435 --> 00:07:01.455 you go on forums? 00:07:01.724 --> 00:07:02.615 Oh, hang tight here. 00:07:02.615 --> 00:07:04.055 So this, this is the best story. 00:07:04.055 --> 00:07:05.105 This is our first time hunting. 00:07:05.265 --> 00:07:08.645 We bought our, our shotguns and we'd bought 00:07:08.645 --> 00:07:10.594 the blank rounds and fired them around the 00:07:10.594 --> 00:07:11.705 house and it was great. 00:07:12.215 --> 00:07:14.855 And then we started looking to gear, Matt 00:07:14.855 --> 00:07:15.795 and I are both gear guys. 00:07:15.815 --> 00:07:18.455 So we got gear, we got all kinds of gear. 00:07:18.455 --> 00:07:20.405 We looked pretty, really pretty. 00:07:20.615 --> 00:07:23.485 And then we picked up the rounds of ammo 00:07:23.855 --> 00:07:25.235 and then we decided we need to, this is 00:07:25.235 --> 00:07:26.105 before we had a boat. 00:07:26.490 --> 00:07:26.640 Yeah. 00:07:26.640 --> 00:07:27.810 And we're like, we need to go, we need to get 00:07:27.810 --> 00:07:28.830 some, some ducks here. 00:07:28.830 --> 00:07:29.700 Let's go harvest some ducks. 00:07:29.719 --> 00:07:31.370 So we did some research and Matt did some 00:07:31.370 --> 00:07:33.620 research and we, we compared notes and 00:07:33.620 --> 00:07:35.540 Matt said, okay, we're going out this day. 00:07:36.120 --> 00:07:37.680 Make sure you bring your ammo, you got your 00:07:37.680 --> 00:07:39.640 gun, we're good to go. 00:07:39.780 --> 00:07:43.110 And we started out and we drove down 00:07:43.650 --> 00:07:46.480 the road done and. 00:07:46.480 --> 00:07:47.820 You drove down some road. 00:07:47.820 --> 00:07:50.490 We drove down some road, we jumped out out of the 00:07:50.490 --> 00:07:52.620 truck and we're walking down the sidewalk. 00:07:52.620 --> 00:07:54.900 And I remember some folks driving by looking at 00:07:54.900 --> 00:07:57.180 us and they were very scared cause two guys 00:07:57.180 --> 00:08:01.240 walking down the street with firearms and about 00:08:01.240 --> 00:08:02.460 to jump into the marsh. 00:08:02.580 --> 00:08:05.670 So we jump into the marsh, Matt carry 00:08:05.670 --> 00:08:06.390 on from there. 00:08:06.780 --> 00:08:09.120 Well, like highest tide of the year. 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:11.930 So like, they're like, okay, we'll do just go 00:08:11.930 --> 00:08:14.810 off into the road, we'll go down it to here. 00:08:14.870 --> 00:08:18.110 We'll go our, whatever, 150 meters off the road, 00:08:18.380 --> 00:08:19.460 make sure we're cool. 00:08:20.300 --> 00:08:23.450 But we couldn't see where we're stepping. 00:08:23.480 --> 00:08:26.570 The water's like up almost to our chest. 00:08:28.010 --> 00:08:29.620 We have our gun over our shoulder. 00:08:29.640 --> 00:08:31.770 I'm holding my box of shells. 00:08:31.770 --> 00:08:33.720 Like I didn't even have it in a bag, like, 00:08:33.720 --> 00:08:34.710 or even in a pocket. 00:08:34.740 --> 00:08:35.490 And I'm just like. 00:08:37.140 --> 00:08:38.330 He's, he's chest deep. 00:08:38.360 --> 00:08:41.420 He's chest deep with a gun in one hand and a 00:08:41.420 --> 00:08:42.920 box of ammo in the other. 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:46.760 Behind them is the guy that can't swim, not 00:08:46.760 --> 00:08:47.960 wearing a life vest. 00:08:48.750 --> 00:08:50.579 Asking him, hey, Matt, check, check 00:08:50.579 --> 00:08:51.300 how deep it is. 00:08:51.329 --> 00:08:54.740 Let me, let me know if we're going to drop. 00:08:54.770 --> 00:08:55.819 I think we're okay. 00:08:55.970 --> 00:08:58.370 I had to go first and then stepping into a 00:08:58.370 --> 00:09:01.170 hole and then I went down and I get all wet. 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:04.640 And then his glove, his glove got wet, which 00:09:04.640 --> 00:09:06.920 is the glove I bought from about two sets 00:09:06.920 --> 00:09:07.930 because they're on sale. 00:09:08.320 --> 00:09:09.980 And little did we know that they 00:09:09.980 --> 00:09:10.790 weren't waterproof? 00:09:10.819 --> 00:09:12.869 So now we both have cold hands. 00:09:12.890 --> 00:09:14.420 He's got a cold left hand and I've got 00:09:14.420 --> 00:09:15.160 a cold right hand. 00:09:15.170 --> 00:09:17.030 Cause I dipped in the, in the hole too. 00:09:17.510 --> 00:09:19.040 So then we decided that, that wasn't 00:09:19.040 --> 00:09:19.640 a very good idea. 00:09:19.660 --> 00:09:19.959 Yeah. 00:09:20.770 --> 00:09:21.020 Yeah. 00:09:21.020 --> 00:09:23.860 Then we decided we wouldn't, we couldn't 00:09:23.860 --> 00:09:25.870 get out far enough to be away from the road. 00:09:25.870 --> 00:09:27.400 So we're like, okay, this is just not 00:09:27.400 --> 00:09:29.170 gonna work and this is just a dumb idea. 00:09:29.170 --> 00:09:31.540 Like even if it was the lower tide, I don't know. 00:09:31.540 --> 00:09:32.829 I still think we wouldn't have got 00:09:32.829 --> 00:09:33.699 out there anyways. 00:09:34.199 --> 00:09:37.020 So we went back up, got in the truck and 00:09:37.020 --> 00:09:38.760 then, you know, I'm like, okay, I think 00:09:38.760 --> 00:09:41.220 there is another area we can get, you know, 00:09:41.340 --> 00:09:42.689 off the dike somewhere. 00:09:43.199 --> 00:09:47.010 So went up driving, you know, I don't 00:09:47.010 --> 00:09:50.030 know, 15 minutes found a spot, parked. 00:09:50.940 --> 00:09:53.069 Walking down the dike, and then it was just 00:09:53.069 --> 00:09:55.829 weird because we're there these people are 00:09:55.829 --> 00:09:58.949 walking their dogs, there's people like 00:09:58.949 --> 00:10:00.750 taking pictures of birds and there was other 00:10:00.750 --> 00:10:02.459 hunters out there, but. 00:10:03.060 --> 00:10:06.350 And it was like, by this time it was like sunny, 00:10:06.530 --> 00:10:08.750 you know, I don't think there's any ducks around. 00:10:08.780 --> 00:10:11.300 There's a lot of people and I'm just like, we 00:10:11.300 --> 00:10:12.170 went out there anyways. 00:10:12.170 --> 00:10:14.449 It was a little bit weird, but and then we 00:10:14.449 --> 00:10:16.130 just kinda stood and went down and stood in the 00:10:16.130 --> 00:10:18.479 marsh and then we're just like, there's nothing 00:10:18.479 --> 00:10:20.099 coming in, there's nothing around, there's 00:10:20.099 --> 00:10:22.109 a bunch of hunters that are all coming back in 00:10:22.109 --> 00:10:24.959 and we're like, okay, this didn't happen today. 00:10:24.959 --> 00:10:26.699 But we learned a few things. 00:10:26.699 --> 00:10:28.109 So we were fully intimated. 00:10:28.380 --> 00:10:30.540 We're not quite sure how far we're supposed to 00:10:30.540 --> 00:10:31.650 be from other hunters. 00:10:32.099 --> 00:10:34.620 We had just come like the day before from 00:10:34.620 --> 00:10:37.170 the gun range for the first time when we tried 00:10:37.170 --> 00:10:39.630 to shoot trap and I yelled pull and I went 00:10:39.630 --> 00:10:43.650 to shoot the clay and my, my lock was on. 00:10:44.400 --> 00:10:45.479 Your trigger lock or your safety? 00:10:45.479 --> 00:10:46.340 Your safety was on. 00:10:46.340 --> 00:10:46.830 Safety, okay. 00:10:47.110 --> 00:10:48.480 And yeah, that was a bit embarrassing. 00:10:48.900 --> 00:10:52.510 So fully green, fully intimidated. 00:10:52.580 --> 00:10:54.930 Haven't really shot before and it's 00:10:54.930 --> 00:10:55.950 like, we learned a couple of things. 00:10:55.950 --> 00:10:56.910 Like maybe we shouldn't go into the 00:10:56.910 --> 00:10:58.650 marsh when it's deep and we don't know. 00:10:58.680 --> 00:10:59.910 And that's probably like noon. 00:11:00.344 --> 00:11:01.425 I don't know what time it was, it was like 00:11:01.425 --> 00:11:02.115 middle of the day. 00:11:02.204 --> 00:11:02.505 Yeah. 00:11:02.564 --> 00:11:03.615 No decoys, nothing. 00:11:03.944 --> 00:11:04.305 Nothing. 00:11:04.485 --> 00:11:05.204 Not even a bag. 00:11:05.474 --> 00:11:07.355 No, just a box ammo and a hand. 00:11:07.925 --> 00:11:09.475 And a firearm. 00:11:09.805 --> 00:11:11.525 Greg, you do some work with coast guard. 00:11:11.735 --> 00:11:13.415 Uh, yep with the volunteers. 00:11:13.925 --> 00:11:15.245 Rural Canadian Marine Search and Rescue. 00:11:15.395 --> 00:11:17.635 Do you ever come across hunters that are. 00:11:17.635 --> 00:11:18.185 Yeah for sure. 00:11:18.325 --> 00:11:19.165 Waiting out in the marsh? 00:11:19.814 --> 00:11:20.094 Yeah. 00:11:20.094 --> 00:11:21.685 Just broken down boats in the river. 00:11:22.855 --> 00:11:24.810 Guys go out and aren't able to get 00:11:24.810 --> 00:11:26.110 back cause their engines won't start. 00:11:26.670 --> 00:11:27.900 Most of the time there's other guys out there 00:11:27.900 --> 00:11:29.370 that can bring them back, but the odd, the 00:11:29.370 --> 00:11:32.690 odd time that you can find a call off Steveson 00:11:32.760 --> 00:11:33.500 sitting there off Ladner. 00:11:33.690 --> 00:11:34.020 Right. 00:11:34.470 --> 00:11:34.770 For sure. 00:11:34.770 --> 00:11:36.810 And I think that's kind of why you hear the 00:11:36.810 --> 00:11:38.430 stories of these guys going out first time 00:11:38.430 --> 00:11:40.800 and kind of, for me, it's like, okay, if I 00:11:40.800 --> 00:11:43.470 can take that stress away because running 00:11:43.470 --> 00:11:44.700 the river is stressful. 00:11:44.880 --> 00:11:46.920 There's logs, there's debris running it at 00:11:47.084 --> 00:11:48.435 five o'clock in the morning when there's 00:11:48.735 --> 00:11:50.805 no, you know, no navigation lights. 00:11:50.805 --> 00:11:52.425 And so if you can take that stress away to 00:11:52.425 --> 00:11:54.405 allow them just to kind of focus on the 00:11:54.405 --> 00:11:55.095 hunting side of it. 00:11:55.125 --> 00:11:55.425 Right. 00:11:55.454 --> 00:11:57.584 That's that's, that's where I fit in. 00:11:58.454 --> 00:11:59.715 So it's, it's good. 00:11:59.715 --> 00:12:00.135 For now. 00:12:00.194 --> 00:12:00.555 For now. 00:12:00.574 --> 00:12:00.845 For now. 00:12:00.845 --> 00:12:01.574 For now, yeah. 00:12:01.985 --> 00:12:04.115 So that was your first time out hunting 00:12:04.475 --> 00:12:07.324 and an unsuccessful hunt in so much as 00:12:07.324 --> 00:12:10.295 harvesting anything but successful in that you 00:12:10.295 --> 00:12:12.875 learned where not to go, how not to do it? 00:12:13.025 --> 00:12:13.295 Yup. 00:12:14.355 --> 00:12:14.805 Exactly. 00:12:15.165 --> 00:12:17.655 Would you go back and you'd like read or 00:12:17.655 --> 00:12:20.685 research on the internet or talk to the gun 00:12:20.685 --> 00:12:22.845 store and try and get as many tips as possible? 00:12:22.905 --> 00:12:23.835 Like, what was your tactic? 00:12:24.255 --> 00:12:25.385 I didn't really tell, talk to anybody 00:12:25.385 --> 00:12:26.165 at the gun store. 00:12:26.165 --> 00:12:28.175 Cause I, even there, I felt kind of intimidated 00:12:28.175 --> 00:12:29.345 and I'm like, are these, am I going to 00:12:29.345 --> 00:12:30.905 walk in here and this guy's going to think 00:12:30.905 --> 00:12:32.045 I'm a total rookie? 00:12:32.819 --> 00:12:34.079 They're not going to want to, they'll be 00:12:34.079 --> 00:12:35.930 like, Oh, I don't want to bother this guy. 00:12:35.930 --> 00:12:38.300 So I, I didn't even try to be honest. 00:12:38.959 --> 00:12:42.290 A lot of it was just online and then a lot 00:12:42.290 --> 00:12:45.109 of it is you can't find very much information 00:12:45.109 --> 00:12:47.479 really about sort of what's going on here. 00:12:47.849 --> 00:12:50.280 You know, in the Lower Mainland, a lot of stuff 00:12:50.280 --> 00:12:51.510 is down in the States. 00:12:52.530 --> 00:12:54.960 So I'm like, is this even relevant to here? 00:12:54.960 --> 00:12:59.520 So like, I kind of figured the areas I 00:12:59.520 --> 00:13:03.359 could go, kind of knowing the river a bit, but 00:13:03.599 --> 00:13:05.969 I didn't have a boat when we first started. 00:13:06.030 --> 00:13:08.760 So very quickly we realized that, you 00:13:08.760 --> 00:13:10.500 know what, we got to have a boat. 00:13:10.680 --> 00:13:14.520 So that was kind of one of the biggest, first 00:13:14.520 --> 00:13:17.670 sort of steps I think, into really progressing. 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:21.075 I went to a couple of places and I asked a 00:13:21.075 --> 00:13:23.175 question or two, but that felt kind of dumb 00:13:23.445 --> 00:13:25.545 right away, cause these are all experts like. 00:13:25.545 --> 00:13:27.765 So the different stores and whatnot, and they're 00:13:27.765 --> 00:13:29.865 not terribly mean whatsoever, but you 00:13:29.865 --> 00:13:31.455 just feel intimidated. 00:13:31.455 --> 00:13:31.975 I get it. 00:13:31.995 --> 00:13:34.125 You feel like these guys know everything. 00:13:34.125 --> 00:13:36.075 And I'm here trying to get into this, this new 00:13:36.075 --> 00:13:39.255 activity and I don't know what I'm doing, I'm going 00:13:39.255 --> 00:13:39.885 to look like an idiot. 00:13:40.175 --> 00:13:40.594 Right. 00:13:40.625 --> 00:13:43.354 So I did what Matt did and I, and I, I found 00:13:43.354 --> 00:13:47.135 out about a few, fowl hunters that were in 00:13:47.135 --> 00:13:47.824 the same profession. 00:13:47.824 --> 00:13:48.844 So I contacted them. 00:13:49.295 --> 00:13:49.714 Okay. 00:13:49.744 --> 00:13:50.854 So I got some good tips. 00:13:50.854 --> 00:13:52.165 One of the gents told me make sure you 00:13:52.165 --> 00:13:55.045 get some really warm waders, especially for 00:13:55.045 --> 00:13:56.425 your feet cause you're going to be cold. 00:13:56.824 --> 00:13:58.285 Go spend the extra money. 00:13:58.435 --> 00:13:58.734 Okay. 00:13:59.244 --> 00:14:01.135 Then he said, well, if you need, you need to 00:14:01.135 --> 00:14:03.055 go out with someone who knows what they're doing. 00:14:04.080 --> 00:14:06.000 So even before we got our boat, I think, 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:06.750 well Matt's boat there. 00:14:06.750 --> 00:14:09.090 We went out with a couple of gents, a 00:14:09.090 --> 00:14:10.440 couple of good guys who knew what they were 00:14:10.440 --> 00:14:11.400 doing that took us out. 00:14:12.150 --> 00:14:15.510 And that was the first time I had pulled the 00:14:15.510 --> 00:14:18.189 trigger at a duck. 00:14:18.810 --> 00:14:19.290 That's right. 00:14:19.290 --> 00:14:21.150 I didn't hit anything, but I gave it a go. 00:14:21.150 --> 00:14:22.950 When I got to, I think the biggest 00:14:22.950 --> 00:14:25.200 thing for me was knowing the etiquette. 00:14:25.755 --> 00:14:26.235 That's huge. 00:14:26.235 --> 00:14:26.565 Isn't it? 00:14:26.595 --> 00:14:27.945 What are you supposed to do? 00:14:27.975 --> 00:14:29.475 How are you supposed to do it? 00:14:30.225 --> 00:14:31.035 That was huge. 00:14:31.035 --> 00:14:33.075 Is I just want to know the, the wrongs 00:14:33.075 --> 00:14:33.675 and the rights. 00:14:33.705 --> 00:14:35.565 Like, I didn't want to mess up or offend anyone. 00:14:35.805 --> 00:14:36.405 Right. 00:14:36.435 --> 00:14:38.235 So having someone experienced to go out 00:14:38.235 --> 00:14:40.995 with, even for just the basic etiquette made a 00:14:40.995 --> 00:14:42.075 huge difference for us. 00:14:43.995 --> 00:14:44.715 How about you, Matt? 00:14:45.405 --> 00:14:46.095 Yeah, same thing. 00:14:46.095 --> 00:14:48.645 I think that, you know, when we finally went 00:14:48.645 --> 00:14:49.755 out with somebody who knew what they were 00:14:49.755 --> 00:14:52.470 doing, you know, short period of time or one 00:14:52.470 --> 00:14:55.880 time it was, it just, I think we felt a lot more 00:14:55.880 --> 00:14:56.960 comfortable after that. 00:14:56.990 --> 00:15:00.950 So we're like, okay, you know, we know what to do. 00:15:01.280 --> 00:15:03.320 I mean, one of the biggest things was 00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:06.320 like, when do I shoot that duck? 00:15:06.440 --> 00:15:08.090 Cause never doing it before you're like, 00:15:08.090 --> 00:15:10.230 okay, how close do they have to be? 00:15:10.230 --> 00:15:10.650 And. 00:15:11.189 --> 00:15:11.760 Right. 00:15:11.760 --> 00:15:14.895 Okay, it's 25 yards, but this is the first 00:15:14.895 --> 00:15:15.795 time you're doing it. 00:15:15.824 --> 00:15:17.925 This duck's coming in, you're getting 00:15:17.925 --> 00:15:19.935 all excited and you take a shot at it. 00:15:19.935 --> 00:15:21.194 And then you realize after like, well, 00:15:21.194 --> 00:15:22.935 that thing was like way too far away. 00:15:22.935 --> 00:15:24.564 Like, so you're just wasting ammo. 00:15:25.064 --> 00:15:26.275 Matt's still a sky blaster. 00:15:27.615 --> 00:15:30.055 Like that was a big thing. 00:15:30.155 --> 00:15:32.074 Like how close does it apt to come in? 00:15:32.074 --> 00:15:34.564 And then, you know, if you shoot it 00:15:34.595 --> 00:15:35.824 well, how are you going to retrieve it? 00:15:35.824 --> 00:15:36.214 Right. 00:15:36.275 --> 00:15:37.805 That's another part, like, are you going to 00:15:37.805 --> 00:15:38.824 be able to get it or not? 00:15:38.824 --> 00:15:41.194 So, you know, those are some big things. 00:15:41.194 --> 00:15:44.085 So going out with somebody, just that one 00:15:44.085 --> 00:15:45.855 time was a big deal so. 00:15:46.605 --> 00:15:49.475 I think, I agree with you first time was 00:15:49.475 --> 00:15:51.405 a huge deal for us. 00:15:51.405 --> 00:15:54.485 It gave us a lot of confidence and just 00:15:54.485 --> 00:15:56.825 knowing just the basic stuff of what's 00:15:56.825 --> 00:15:57.545 right and wrong. 00:15:58.055 --> 00:16:00.695 So then we were ready to go off on our own 00:16:01.145 --> 00:16:03.185 on the boat and learn some different things. 00:16:03.815 --> 00:16:04.025 Yeah. 00:16:04.025 --> 00:16:05.675 I think pretty soon after that is 00:16:05.675 --> 00:16:07.260 when we got a boat. 00:16:07.260 --> 00:16:09.360 So that kind of turned things around the 00:16:09.360 --> 00:16:10.230 start of it anyways. 00:16:10.230 --> 00:16:11.240 Just went full into it. 00:16:11.990 --> 00:16:14.160 Got all the cool guy kit, then the boat. 00:16:14.420 --> 00:16:14.690 Yeah. 00:16:14.690 --> 00:16:16.760 I got a boat, cammoed it up. 00:16:16.760 --> 00:16:20.030 It was a bit too shiny aluminum for us. 00:16:20.030 --> 00:16:22.700 And then, it kind of started from there. 00:16:22.700 --> 00:16:24.650 And then I think we ended up having like 00:16:24.720 --> 00:16:27.590 waders, jacket, hat, gloves .I think we sort 00:16:27.590 --> 00:16:28.370 of figured that out. 00:16:28.850 --> 00:16:30.200 And then it was kind of figuring out 00:16:30.200 --> 00:16:31.400 where to go and then. 00:16:32.160 --> 00:16:33.785 And then getting beached a couple of times. 00:16:34.385 --> 00:16:34.685 Yeah. 00:16:34.834 --> 00:16:36.005 You don't want to get beached. 00:16:36.214 --> 00:16:36.995 No, no. 00:16:37.265 --> 00:16:39.805 We sat out there at point we thought, Oh, 00:16:39.805 --> 00:16:42.625 we're good, we're good and I got a new shotgun 00:16:42.625 --> 00:16:44.875 and I was just trying to clear it out a bit 00:16:44.875 --> 00:16:47.875 and get it used to, in my hands and whatnot. 00:16:47.875 --> 00:16:49.765 And then we're looking at the boat there and 00:16:49.765 --> 00:16:51.805 Matt's like, Oh, we're good, we're good. 00:16:51.895 --> 00:16:53.850 And then, we were beached. 00:16:54.060 --> 00:16:54.270 Yeah. 00:16:54.270 --> 00:16:55.200 The tide went out. 00:16:55.320 --> 00:16:57.990 We came in at a pretty high tide, hunting, 00:16:57.990 --> 00:16:59.940 sitting there, I'm like, ah, the boats 00:16:59.940 --> 00:17:02.340 in a bit of mud, we'll be able to get it out. 00:17:02.520 --> 00:17:03.720 And then no. 00:17:03.770 --> 00:17:04.740 It's like quicksand. 00:17:04.819 --> 00:17:07.380 So what'd you do? 00:17:07.380 --> 00:17:09.020 Well, we dragged that. 00:17:09.470 --> 00:17:11.569 I think we dragged it probably a hundred 00:17:11.569 --> 00:17:12.890 yards across the mud. 00:17:12.920 --> 00:17:15.700 Probably took us an hour sinking in. 00:17:15.730 --> 00:17:16.889 It's not mud, it's quicksand. 00:17:16.910 --> 00:17:19.660 One foot at a time. 00:17:20.120 --> 00:17:23.130 We finally got it to some water and like a little 00:17:23.130 --> 00:17:26.220 slough, but it was like, I dunno, six inches deep. 00:17:26.220 --> 00:17:28.140 So then you're walking down the slough out 00:17:28.140 --> 00:17:31.410 towards the river, gets a bit deeper, 00:17:31.860 --> 00:17:32.820 Roy can't swim. 00:17:32.820 --> 00:17:34.830 So he's like, ah, you know, he's kind of 00:17:34.830 --> 00:17:37.020 freaking out, you know, I'm like get in the boat. 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:38.200 I'm going to push you down. 00:17:38.230 --> 00:17:39.540 I got in the boat really quick. 00:17:40.129 --> 00:17:40.910 Really quick. 00:17:40.970 --> 00:17:41.540 Yeah. 00:17:41.720 --> 00:17:43.169 I take it Greg wasn't there to 00:17:43.169 --> 00:17:44.070 help with the tides? 00:17:44.090 --> 00:17:45.860 No, Greg, it was not there at the time. 00:17:45.889 --> 00:17:48.170 So he probably would have been watching a lot more 00:17:48.170 --> 00:17:48.980 careful than we were. 00:17:48.980 --> 00:17:51.110 Had Greg been there we would not have been 00:17:51.350 --> 00:17:52.220 on that adventure. 00:17:52.280 --> 00:17:53.120 No, we wouldn't. 00:17:53.180 --> 00:17:54.620 No, he would have made sure that we 00:17:54.620 --> 00:17:55.379 were back in the boat. 00:17:55.379 --> 00:17:56.860 You wouldn't have had the stories though. 00:17:58.110 --> 00:17:58.659 True. 00:17:59.409 --> 00:18:00.084 That's a good point. 00:18:00.644 --> 00:18:01.014 Yes. 00:18:01.485 --> 00:18:03.605 We learned, so at that point we learned 00:18:03.635 --> 00:18:04.325 that, you know what? 00:18:04.325 --> 00:18:05.284 Don't wait so long. 00:18:06.365 --> 00:18:10.215 Another time we were out there and our engine 00:18:10.235 --> 00:18:12.135 failed, we had just started, we were good. 00:18:12.155 --> 00:18:14.885 Now we had learned to go out at sunrise, right? 00:18:14.885 --> 00:18:17.524 Like we're writing, we're a little bit smarter now. 00:18:17.524 --> 00:18:18.725 We're going to go early. 00:18:19.325 --> 00:18:21.735 Now we've got a couple of decoys right. 00:18:21.764 --> 00:18:23.115 So now we progressed, we've got a few 00:18:23.115 --> 00:18:24.915 decoys now, so we're going to go early. 00:18:25.125 --> 00:18:27.375 So we're there, we're ready, we're on the boat 00:18:28.004 --> 00:18:29.514 and we're going out and hald a call off fway 00:18:29.534 --> 00:18:31.034 there, the motor dies. 00:18:31.965 --> 00:18:32.535 It's dead. 00:18:32.685 --> 00:18:34.695 We try, we try, Matt's ticked off. 00:18:35.265 --> 00:18:37.395 So we, we kind of beached the boat 00:18:37.395 --> 00:18:39.715 to the side and try hunting from this area. 00:18:39.975 --> 00:18:41.275 No luck, gave it a go. 00:18:41.685 --> 00:18:44.445 Now I'm like, Matt we got to go bud, my wife's 00:18:44.445 --> 00:18:46.425 waiting, we got to go to soccer practice or 00:18:46.425 --> 00:18:47.025 something like that. 00:18:47.025 --> 00:18:47.945 He's like, okay, let's go. 00:18:48.465 --> 00:18:50.445 So we've decided that we're going to get 00:18:50.445 --> 00:18:52.305 back to shore, but we don't have oars. 00:18:52.785 --> 00:18:53.475 What do we have Matt? 00:18:54.180 --> 00:18:55.980 Oh, it was a collapsible paddle. 00:18:56.070 --> 00:18:57.180 A collapsible paddle. 00:18:58.350 --> 00:18:59.350 It was, yes. 00:18:59.350 --> 00:19:00.420 No lights, no oars. 00:19:00.770 --> 00:19:02.780 So no oars, no lights. 00:19:02.780 --> 00:19:05.090 We've got a collapsible paddle, but you know, 00:19:05.090 --> 00:19:06.050 we're giving it a go. 00:19:06.170 --> 00:19:08.510 We're trying to get back, it's not too far 00:19:08.510 --> 00:19:10.190 and it's not working. 00:19:10.220 --> 00:19:12.050 So we decided to take a little of a shortcut. 00:19:12.080 --> 00:19:13.340 So we have this little canal we're 00:19:13.340 --> 00:19:13.970 going to go through. 00:19:14.725 --> 00:19:17.185 And of course, Matt lets me sit in the 00:19:17.185 --> 00:19:19.585 boat like a king, cause I can't swim and he 00:19:19.585 --> 00:19:22.565 is dragging the boat through the marsh there 00:19:23.285 --> 00:19:24.565 and the canal dries up. 00:19:25.195 --> 00:19:28.595 So now we're not happy cause we have zero ducks. 00:19:28.615 --> 00:19:30.625 It's not been a pleasant experience so far. 00:19:31.075 --> 00:19:33.295 Thank goodness it's not raining, but he's 00:19:33.295 --> 00:19:34.585 like Roy, here's what we're gonna do, buddy. 00:19:34.825 --> 00:19:37.050 We're going to take the boat and we're gonna 00:19:37.050 --> 00:19:40.409 carry it over 15, 20 feet across this, this 00:19:40.409 --> 00:19:41.219 piece of land here. 00:19:41.219 --> 00:19:42.600 And we're back, we're back in the. 00:19:42.600 --> 00:19:43.320 Middle of the river. 00:19:43.350 --> 00:19:44.219 We're we're good to go. 00:19:45.330 --> 00:19:46.590 I thought, okay, I can do that. 00:19:46.620 --> 00:19:49.949 So I'm at the front and he's pushing the boat 00:19:50.189 --> 00:19:52.320 and I'm pulling the boat and we're going over 00:19:52.320 --> 00:19:54.750 some land here and it's like a push, pull and 00:19:54.750 --> 00:19:56.969 it's that quicksand and a couple pulls in and 00:19:57.870 --> 00:20:01.139 I say, Matt, come up here and I could hear 00:20:01.229 --> 00:20:05.400 it in his voice Kanda, what's the problem? 00:20:05.400 --> 00:20:07.710 I can hear him saying, listen, you 00:20:07.710 --> 00:20:11.070 weak Indo-Canadian guy who can't swim. 00:20:11.690 --> 00:20:13.130 What is your problem? 00:20:14.260 --> 00:20:16.220 Why can't you just pull the boat? 00:20:16.430 --> 00:20:18.080 Let's go and I'll come over buddy. 00:20:18.470 --> 00:20:22.190 So he comes up and he sees what I see and 00:20:22.190 --> 00:20:23.390 we discover a body. 00:20:24.440 --> 00:20:27.860 It is the craziest thing I've ever 00:20:27.860 --> 00:20:29.240 experienced in my life. 00:20:29.270 --> 00:20:32.925 Here we are in the marsh, pulling a boat 00:20:32.985 --> 00:20:36.225 across the land and then boom, there's a body. 00:20:36.975 --> 00:20:39.465 So he looks at me, he's like, Oh, okay. 00:20:39.525 --> 00:20:40.815 You weren't, you weren't kidding around, 00:20:40.815 --> 00:20:41.505 this is serious. 00:20:41.505 --> 00:20:42.225 This is serious. 00:20:42.225 --> 00:20:44.295 So we both look at each other and it's 00:20:44.295 --> 00:20:46.035 kind of like, you know, it's like, Whoa, this 00:20:46.035 --> 00:20:48.585 is crazy, we better call someone here. 00:20:48.705 --> 00:20:50.415 So we made a couple of phone calls to 00:20:50.415 --> 00:20:51.765 our wives first, tell them that we might 00:20:51.765 --> 00:20:52.455 be a little bit late. 00:20:53.515 --> 00:20:55.665 And then, we made the call to the, or 00:20:55.665 --> 00:20:57.165 do you make the call to RCMP or did I? 00:20:57.405 --> 00:20:58.004 I think you did. 00:20:59.075 --> 00:21:01.260 You did, you made the first call and 00:21:01.260 --> 00:21:03.180 then you didn't know where we were so. 00:21:03.240 --> 00:21:04.080 Then I passed the phone to him. 00:21:04.170 --> 00:21:06.730 Passed the phone to me, and then you 00:21:06.730 --> 00:21:09.225 gotta describe where you are and then 00:21:09.225 --> 00:21:11.115 they're like, well, there's no land there. 00:21:11.115 --> 00:21:13.275 I'm like we're standing on land, it's the marsh. 00:21:13.275 --> 00:21:16.115 But yeah, that was, that was interesting. 00:21:16.155 --> 00:21:17.845 So then they, they came on down. 00:21:17.845 --> 00:21:20.195 But the best part is when the RCMP came on 00:21:20.195 --> 00:21:23.195 down, we could see land from where we were and 00:21:23.195 --> 00:21:25.325 the RCMP could see us, but they couldn't get 00:21:25.325 --> 00:21:26.375 across to where we were. 00:21:26.915 --> 00:21:31.835 So Matt and I had to walk the boat too the RCMP, 00:21:32.225 --> 00:21:35.915 let them jump on the boat and then drag them back. 00:21:36.930 --> 00:21:37.710 There were three of them. 00:21:38.040 --> 00:21:38.400 Yeah. 00:21:38.430 --> 00:21:38.680 Yeah. 00:21:38.770 --> 00:21:40.020 It was a pretty big deal for them. 00:21:41.010 --> 00:21:41.490 Yeah. 00:21:41.550 --> 00:21:43.200 And then the tide started to come in. 00:21:43.650 --> 00:21:46.850 The tide started coming and as the RCMP 00:21:47.210 --> 00:21:48.680 and the coast guard are going back and 00:21:48.680 --> 00:21:49.910 forth about the body. 00:21:49.940 --> 00:21:50.330 Right. 00:21:50.540 --> 00:21:54.590 Matt and I flagged down this, this young 00:21:54.590 --> 00:21:56.690 buck, must've been in his seventies. 00:21:56.750 --> 00:21:57.020 Yeah. 00:21:57.350 --> 00:21:58.570 So we flag him down. 00:21:58.580 --> 00:21:59.660 He's got his boat coming. 00:21:59.660 --> 00:22:00.830 He's he's a, he's a hunter. 00:22:01.274 --> 00:22:03.045 And we, we yelled and we need to help, but 00:22:03.075 --> 00:22:04.365 we got the RCMP here. 00:22:04.365 --> 00:22:06.904 We got a body here, our boats dead, we gotta be 00:22:06.904 --> 00:22:09.705 towed back, so the best part is he's trying to 00:22:10.725 --> 00:22:13.575 unload his firearm as his boat's spinning. 00:22:13.784 --> 00:22:16.545 And he finally comes over and he jumps on land. 00:22:16.545 --> 00:22:19.134 He goes straight to the RCMP officer and asks 00:22:19.155 --> 00:22:21.014 what's going on and he wants to go see the body. 00:22:21.014 --> 00:22:22.165 They're like, fine, go see the body, 00:22:22.185 --> 00:22:22.875 don't touch it. 00:22:24.014 --> 00:22:27.435 And we have this female RCMP officer that's 00:22:28.185 --> 00:22:30.705 interviewing us and Matt and I are, are 00:22:30.705 --> 00:22:31.574 serious and whatnot. 00:22:31.604 --> 00:22:35.574 And grandpa just, just, drops his waders. 00:22:36.235 --> 00:22:38.084 Drops his waders then he cause he needed 00:22:38.084 --> 00:22:39.525 to relieve himself. 00:22:40.075 --> 00:22:41.395 So the female. 00:22:41.395 --> 00:22:42.155 All I'm saying. 00:22:42.225 --> 00:22:43.084 Number one or number two? 00:22:44.764 --> 00:22:45.544 Number one. 00:22:45.935 --> 00:22:47.314 And I'm thinking, I'm looking at Matt, 00:22:47.314 --> 00:22:49.715 I'm looking at the female RCMP officer 00:22:50.104 --> 00:22:52.804 and grandpa's he has to relieve himself and 00:22:52.804 --> 00:22:54.185 he just turns around and we just kind of 00:22:54.185 --> 00:22:55.115 shrugged our shoulders. 00:22:56.100 --> 00:22:58.020 We got to watch the RCMP do a full search 00:22:58.020 --> 00:23:00.240 and see how they run, run protocol. 00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:02.660 And, and then the coolest thing was when 00:23:02.920 --> 00:23:04.820 that, the coast guard came in hey Matt? 00:23:04.970 --> 00:23:07.550 The hovercraft, yeah came in and had to 00:23:08.840 --> 00:23:09.650 take the body away. 00:23:09.670 --> 00:23:10.790 I mean, the tide was coming in. 00:23:10.790 --> 00:23:14.090 It was like, I dunno, it was like six inches 00:23:14.090 --> 00:23:15.380 deep there by the time. 00:23:16.080 --> 00:23:17.760 They didn't realize I'm like, okay, I think 00:23:17.760 --> 00:23:20.490 we got about half an hour here and like the 00:23:20.820 --> 00:23:21.900 water's going to be up. 00:23:21.900 --> 00:23:22.250 So like. 00:23:22.300 --> 00:23:22.540 Right. 00:23:22.540 --> 00:23:24.060 We got to, you gotta figure out what you're 00:23:24.060 --> 00:23:25.110 going to do here so. 00:23:25.784 --> 00:23:27.195 They kind of panicked and then they had to 00:23:27.195 --> 00:23:28.185 call the coast guard in. 00:23:28.185 --> 00:23:29.925 So that was quite the scene too so. 00:23:29.985 --> 00:23:30.615 No kidding. 00:23:30.645 --> 00:23:32.135 Well, the best part is we call Greg and 00:23:32.135 --> 00:23:34.365 Greg's like the one time I can't come, the 00:23:34.365 --> 00:23:36.794 one time I can't come you guys find the body, 00:23:37.264 --> 00:23:38.435 what is going on here? 00:23:39.635 --> 00:23:40.595 Cause he was all over it. 00:23:40.595 --> 00:23:42.514 I'm sure you are watching your video weren't you 00:23:42.725 --> 00:23:43.504 checking out everything. 00:23:43.575 --> 00:23:44.855 It was my wife's birthday that day. 00:23:44.855 --> 00:23:47.115 So I don't think it was a wise move to go and 00:23:47.250 --> 00:23:50.580 got the, got the text message really it's 00:23:50.580 --> 00:23:52.800 a serious, and then watch the hovercraft 00:23:52.800 --> 00:23:53.670 get tasked and. 00:23:53.980 --> 00:23:56.400 That's a hell of a new hunting adventure. 00:23:56.850 --> 00:23:58.290 I don't think too many people, new 00:23:58.290 --> 00:24:00.130 hunters go out there and happened to find 00:24:00.270 --> 00:24:03.870 bodies, just floating, not for a while. 00:24:03.870 --> 00:24:04.730 It must've been there for awhile. 00:24:04.730 --> 00:24:05.480 It was there for a while. 00:24:05.480 --> 00:24:07.820 And RCMP said that it's most likely they 00:24:07.820 --> 00:24:08.540 wouldn't have found it. 00:24:08.750 --> 00:24:09.110 Right. 00:24:09.140 --> 00:24:09.440 Right. 00:24:09.470 --> 00:24:10.950 Unless someone had got stuck there. 00:24:10.950 --> 00:24:12.800 Cause no one would ever go over that 00:24:12.800 --> 00:24:13.550 little piece of land. 00:24:14.120 --> 00:24:15.110 Well, we shouldn't have been there. 00:24:15.110 --> 00:24:16.460 I mean, the motor broke down. 00:24:17.085 --> 00:24:18.855 We're pulling the boat, you know? 00:24:20.430 --> 00:24:21.860 Down the river, essentially. 00:24:21.860 --> 00:24:23.940 You're, you were walking like on the shore, I 00:24:23.940 --> 00:24:25.800 was kind of pushing it on the side and we 00:24:25.800 --> 00:24:27.300 ju, we shouldn't have been there, like nobody 00:24:27.300 --> 00:24:27.990 would stop there. 00:24:28.020 --> 00:24:29.700 So it's just crazy. 00:24:30.050 --> 00:24:30.470 So. 00:24:30.830 --> 00:24:31.640 Heck of a story though. 00:24:31.820 --> 00:24:32.000 Yeah. 00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:33.020 That's one of those things they'll stick 00:24:33.020 --> 00:24:33.740 with you for awhile. 00:24:33.980 --> 00:24:34.730 Yeah, for sure. 00:24:34.940 --> 00:24:36.770 People like don't believe me when I tell them. 00:24:37.060 --> 00:24:38.540 Like they're just like, what, like 00:24:38.780 --> 00:24:39.740 really that happened? 00:24:39.740 --> 00:24:40.310 I'm like, yeah. 00:24:40.550 --> 00:24:42.770 Well the best part was that the RCMP and 00:24:42.770 --> 00:24:44.540 the hovercraft left us there as they, as 00:24:44.540 --> 00:24:45.469 they went on their way. 00:24:45.800 --> 00:24:49.310 And a grandpa was that towing us back to shore. 00:24:49.699 --> 00:24:50.870 I don't know if he's doing donuts or 00:24:50.870 --> 00:24:53.029 whatnot, but he left us about a hundered 00:24:53.029 --> 00:24:53.799 yards from shore. 00:24:53.989 --> 00:24:54.750 He just dropped the rope. 00:24:54.750 --> 00:24:56.549 Yeah, he just dropped the rope and we're like ugh. 00:24:56.549 --> 00:24:58.379 And so we just paddle our way back in. 00:24:58.620 --> 00:25:01.179 He was a seasoned veteran that gentlemen, 00:25:01.479 --> 00:25:02.920 at least he pulled us most of the way so. 00:25:02.920 --> 00:25:04.530 I think the best part was when we were stranded 00:25:04.550 --> 00:25:06.810 on the island there he's like hey, Roy, can you 00:25:06.810 --> 00:25:07.740 call my wife for me? 00:25:08.010 --> 00:25:10.320 Cause she's expecting me like, you know right 00:25:10.320 --> 00:25:11.490 now and if I don't come home, I think 00:25:11.490 --> 00:25:12.170 she thinks I'm dead. 00:25:12.450 --> 00:25:14.510 I'm like Oh, sure, sure, you dial the 00:25:14.510 --> 00:25:15.680 phone, I can't dial it. 00:25:15.740 --> 00:25:17.480 I can't dial it, you dial it and then 00:25:17.480 --> 00:25:18.050 I'll talk to her. 00:25:18.280 --> 00:25:18.680 Oh man. 00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:19.530 Yeah it was interesting. 00:25:19.590 --> 00:25:20.340 Oh he was a beaut. 00:25:20.340 --> 00:25:20.430 Yeah. 00:25:20.620 --> 00:25:22.070 Have you seen him since. 00:25:23.625 --> 00:25:26.004 No, I think he lived in Vancouver. 00:25:26.155 --> 00:25:26.334 Okay. 00:25:26.334 --> 00:25:29.175 And he, yeah, he was in his seventies for sure. 00:25:29.294 --> 00:25:30.885 Oh, we helped him, we put his boat 00:25:30.885 --> 00:25:31.595 back on this truck. 00:25:31.595 --> 00:25:33.284 I don't know how he got the boat off. 00:25:33.375 --> 00:25:35.024 He had it in the back of his truck. 00:25:35.024 --> 00:25:37.034 So we had to put it back into this 00:25:37.034 --> 00:25:37.715 truck for him so. 00:25:37.715 --> 00:25:39.774 This 70 year old guy just lifted this thing out. 00:25:39.774 --> 00:25:41.675 And I think he lives somewhere, like deep 00:25:41.675 --> 00:25:43.595 in Vancouver, like, so he just came out 00:25:43.595 --> 00:25:44.215 here to go hunting. 00:25:44.215 --> 00:25:45.054 Oh he was a beaut. 00:25:45.274 --> 00:25:46.774 He was, he loved going out. 00:25:46.774 --> 00:25:48.304 I think he said he's been coming out here for 00:25:48.304 --> 00:25:50.615 like 30, 40 years so. 00:25:50.764 --> 00:25:51.065 Yeah. 00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:52.680 Crazy. 00:25:52.980 --> 00:25:56.070 So at this point in your hunting career, 00:25:56.700 --> 00:25:58.140 success rate, when you're going out. 00:25:59.610 --> 00:26:02.230 High, low, like how far are we into it? 00:26:02.230 --> 00:26:02.820 Pretty low. 00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:04.640 That was what, a year in maybe? 00:26:04.730 --> 00:26:06.830 Oh, we were low success rate of that time. 00:26:06.910 --> 00:26:10.620 I think, I, yeah, I think the odd duck 00:26:10.640 --> 00:26:11.330 here and there. 00:26:11.330 --> 00:26:13.730 When Greg came out, when Greg started coming 00:26:13.730 --> 00:26:16.229 out with us, we started getting more duck. 00:26:16.409 --> 00:26:17.399 That's why, that's right. 00:26:17.429 --> 00:26:19.739 Cause he'd say, cause when, whenever we didn't 00:26:19.739 --> 00:26:21.540 go out with Greg, we'd come back skunked. 00:26:21.570 --> 00:26:21.989 Right. 00:26:22.050 --> 00:26:23.550 And then when we went out with Greg, 00:26:23.580 --> 00:26:24.899 we'd have a few, so. 00:26:25.545 --> 00:26:26.445 He's a lucky charm. 00:26:26.475 --> 00:26:27.295 He was the lucky charm. 00:26:27.295 --> 00:26:28.335 So if we ever went out without him, 00:26:28.415 --> 00:26:29.005 we get skunked. 00:26:29.165 --> 00:26:29.845 Right. 00:26:30.095 --> 00:26:32.105 I think it was the extra decoys and everything 00:26:32.105 --> 00:26:34.295 else that you purchased between then and now. 00:26:34.445 --> 00:26:36.335 Well, extra decoys and oars. 00:26:36.395 --> 00:26:38.665 Oars was a big one, we picked up oars. 00:26:38.665 --> 00:26:41.225 We've got our first, we've got a full on 00:26:41.225 --> 00:26:45.285 first aid kit and we even threw in some, 00:26:45.445 --> 00:26:46.025 what's it called? 00:26:46.025 --> 00:26:46.535 Benadryl. 00:26:47.165 --> 00:26:47.465 Okay. 00:26:47.525 --> 00:26:49.715 Because we heard stories of other hunters going 00:26:49.715 --> 00:26:51.425 out, having allergic reactions and you're 00:26:51.425 --> 00:26:52.175 stuck out there. 00:26:52.485 --> 00:26:52.754 Hmm. 00:26:52.875 --> 00:26:53.175 Right. 00:26:53.175 --> 00:26:54.405 So if you're having an allergic reaction, 00:26:54.405 --> 00:26:54.885 what are you gonna do? 00:26:55.285 --> 00:26:57.485 So now in, in that first aid kit we've, 00:26:57.514 --> 00:26:58.625 we've put some Benadryl. 00:26:58.625 --> 00:26:59.915 We've got, I get migraines, so I 00:26:59.915 --> 00:27:01.534 have Advil and Tylenol in there. 00:27:01.685 --> 00:27:01.925 Yeah. 00:27:02.104 --> 00:27:02.554 Water. 00:27:03.064 --> 00:27:03.754 Water yeah. 00:27:03.814 --> 00:27:05.014 We got water in there. 00:27:05.314 --> 00:27:06.335 We just got smarter. 00:27:06.335 --> 00:27:08.745 We try to minimalize what we have on the boat now. 00:27:08.764 --> 00:27:14.284 Like I started off with a really cool bag from Bass 00:27:14.284 --> 00:27:15.364 Pro or wherever it was. 00:27:15.395 --> 00:27:16.534 And it was like, it was the coolest 00:27:16.534 --> 00:27:17.135 thing bag ever. 00:27:17.405 --> 00:27:19.415 But when I took it out in the marsh, even though 00:27:19.415 --> 00:27:22.385 it was a floating bag, it was fully soaked. 00:27:22.845 --> 00:27:23.264 Really? 00:27:23.385 --> 00:27:27.465 So I bought a bag that was maybe 60% less, but 00:27:27.465 --> 00:27:28.514 it's a full on dry bag. 00:27:28.875 --> 00:27:31.665 Everything goes in one bag now, minimal. 00:27:31.784 --> 00:27:33.945 Everything is minimal, not fancy, just minimal. 00:27:34.565 --> 00:27:35.705 And that's the way to do it too. 00:27:35.794 --> 00:27:38.515 Like any, any new hobby you get into, it's 00:27:38.515 --> 00:27:41.495 all accumulation of knowledge, accumulation 00:27:41.495 --> 00:27:42.725 of kit, everything else. 00:27:42.754 --> 00:27:45.960 And at some point, you start realizing 00:27:45.960 --> 00:27:47.550 how little you actually need to go 00:27:47.550 --> 00:27:48.750 out and be successful. 00:27:48.870 --> 00:27:51.210 What is your load outlook like now compared to 00:27:51.210 --> 00:27:52.020 when you first started? 00:27:53.840 --> 00:27:55.160 We probably have half the stuff. 00:27:55.190 --> 00:27:57.020 I mean, we have some more decoys now, but other 00:27:57.020 --> 00:28:00.230 than that, I think it's like the bare minimum. 00:28:00.890 --> 00:28:03.620 I bring, like, I don't know, we have water that 00:28:03.620 --> 00:28:05.990 stays in the boat in the toat in the boat. 00:28:06.650 --> 00:28:09.620 I think I do a power bar, ammo, second 00:28:09.620 --> 00:28:13.695 pair of gloves and that's probably 00:28:13.695 --> 00:28:14.535 about it I'd say. 00:28:15.225 --> 00:28:18.885 I'm the exact same, ammo, a snack, 00:28:20.295 --> 00:28:21.405 extra gloves always. 00:28:21.405 --> 00:28:23.415 I learned that quick, those extra gloves, 00:28:23.415 --> 00:28:25.545 especially when it's you try to retrieve 00:28:25.545 --> 00:28:27.055 something in your whole hand is wet. 00:28:28.235 --> 00:28:30.825 That's why we bought Greg some decoy gloves. 00:28:31.274 --> 00:28:33.284 Poor guy who had freezing hands the whole time. 00:28:34.125 --> 00:28:35.115 But yeah, very minimal. 00:28:35.115 --> 00:28:36.715 And that one pack, we pack everything. 00:28:36.795 --> 00:28:39.075 Each guy's got one pack he brings. 00:28:39.504 --> 00:28:42.175 We have the decoys, the first aid 00:28:42.175 --> 00:28:43.084 kit's in the boat. 00:28:43.475 --> 00:28:45.405 I think that's it. 00:28:45.405 --> 00:28:46.545 Greg, what else do you bring? 00:28:47.264 --> 00:28:48.375 No, I think that's pretty much it. 00:28:48.375 --> 00:28:50.294 We each have our own dry bag, life 00:28:50.294 --> 00:28:53.475 jacket, obviously and gloves is the key. 00:28:53.475 --> 00:28:55.165 I bring a VHF radio usually. 00:28:55.615 --> 00:28:56.804 I think we have one on the boat now that 00:28:56.804 --> 00:28:57.955 we, we leave as well. 00:28:57.955 --> 00:29:00.465 But yeah, minimal. 00:29:00.594 --> 00:29:03.074 You just want to have everything with you, so 00:29:03.074 --> 00:29:04.754 I don't wanna be carrying around a lot of stuff, I 00:29:04.754 --> 00:29:05.645 think is what we found. 00:29:06.015 --> 00:29:08.925 And keep, keep drying and warm, stay 00:29:08.925 --> 00:29:09.465 out there longer. 00:29:10.235 --> 00:29:11.495 Less stuff in the boat too. 00:29:11.945 --> 00:29:12.395 Yeah. 00:29:12.845 --> 00:29:14.615 Especially when we're coming on and off the 00:29:14.615 --> 00:29:15.514 boat, we're actually. 00:29:16.065 --> 00:29:18.465 We're, we're very safety conscious. 00:29:18.465 --> 00:29:20.835 Like I'm not getting into the boat without 00:29:20.835 --> 00:29:22.935 handing Matt or Greg, my firearm first. 00:29:23.355 --> 00:29:23.595 Right. 00:29:23.625 --> 00:29:26.655 I'm just, why not give, you know, it's the same 00:29:26.685 --> 00:29:27.525 thing goes for all of us. 00:29:27.525 --> 00:29:30.105 We just go very slowly, take our time, do it 00:29:30.105 --> 00:29:30.755 the right way, way. 00:29:30.965 --> 00:29:32.645 And that's key, it really is. 00:29:32.925 --> 00:29:34.565 You only gotta make a mistake once. 00:29:34.715 --> 00:29:34.955 Yeah. 00:29:35.705 --> 00:29:38.125 We we're, we're also, we always like to drink 00:29:38.145 --> 00:29:41.075 the three of us, but we don't drink when we hunt. 00:29:41.225 --> 00:29:41.485 Right. 00:29:41.555 --> 00:29:43.755 That's just a rule we have, we drink 00:29:43.775 --> 00:29:44.795 when we golf, sure. 00:29:44.825 --> 00:29:46.815 We drink at each's homes. 00:29:46.975 --> 00:29:47.235 Sure. 00:29:47.685 --> 00:29:50.910 We don't drink when we hunt. 00:29:51.090 --> 00:29:52.320 I think that's a smart rule. 00:29:52.380 --> 00:29:53.550 I know some people will. 00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:55.560 Yeah, and to each their own, but we will 00:29:55.560 --> 00:29:56.700 have a drink after. 00:29:56.780 --> 00:29:57.040 Sure. 00:29:57.040 --> 00:29:59.130 Like we normally pull up to my garage and we'll 00:29:59.130 --> 00:30:01.590 go in my garage and sit there and either be 00:30:01.590 --> 00:30:04.030 happy that we harvested some ducks or like, 00:30:04.060 --> 00:30:06.090 Oh, we better get some next time and we'll 00:30:06.090 --> 00:30:07.400 enjoy it then for sure. 00:30:07.810 --> 00:30:11.010 But there's too many things that can go 00:30:11.010 --> 00:30:13.215 wrong when you're out in the marsh. 00:30:13.304 --> 00:30:15.225 Especially for me as a non-swimmer, 00:30:15.585 --> 00:30:19.175 I did invest in an automatic life vest. 00:30:19.215 --> 00:30:19.735 Right. 00:30:19.754 --> 00:30:22.335 One, it's slimmer, so it's easier to maneuver 00:30:22.784 --> 00:30:24.675 and two, anything could happen there. 00:30:24.675 --> 00:30:27.105 I've fallen a couple of times out there or have 00:30:27.105 --> 00:30:30.585 lost my step and that sand can really grab you. 00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:31.740 Yeah, it really can. 00:30:31.830 --> 00:30:32.850 It can grab you quick. 00:30:32.850 --> 00:30:34.600 And even in the Marsh you're walking around. 00:30:34.630 --> 00:30:36.000 There's all kinds of dips there. 00:30:36.120 --> 00:30:38.340 So if I'm going for a little walk, my 00:30:38.340 --> 00:30:41.640 own, I throw, I throw my, my life vest on. 00:30:41.940 --> 00:30:42.330 Right. 00:30:42.360 --> 00:30:44.280 Yeah any time I'm jumping on the boat 00:30:44.280 --> 00:30:46.200 or off the boat, I've got it on for sure. 00:30:46.230 --> 00:30:48.030 I've got beside me when I'm on the marsh. 00:30:48.030 --> 00:30:49.890 We don't mess around that way. 00:30:50.120 --> 00:30:50.900 No, that's smart. 00:30:50.900 --> 00:30:53.520 I think my first time out with you guys, you 00:30:53.520 --> 00:30:55.470 got out of the boat and then I went to get 00:30:55.470 --> 00:30:57.060 out and I was pulling the boat up and took a 00:30:57.240 --> 00:30:59.060 step too far and woosh! 00:30:59.160 --> 00:30:59.870 And you're in. 00:30:59.870 --> 00:31:00.230 And I'm in yeah. 00:31:00.230 --> 00:31:02.439 It was probably up to my, just under 00:31:02.460 --> 00:31:03.300 my armpits I think. 00:31:03.399 --> 00:31:04.830 You're going with chest waders as well? 00:31:04.879 --> 00:31:05.070 Yep. 00:31:05.300 --> 00:31:05.489 Yeah. 00:31:05.489 --> 00:31:07.650 I, originally it was kind of, you know, as 00:31:07.650 --> 00:31:09.450 they experienced and upgrade their equipment 00:31:09.450 --> 00:31:12.540 than I would, I would take their hand me downs. 00:31:13.425 --> 00:31:16.065 But I've obviously now purchased my own stuff as 00:31:16.065 --> 00:31:17.865 well, but I think I still got the original wader 00:31:17.865 --> 00:31:19.865 hand me downs that I picked up off these guys. 00:31:19.865 --> 00:31:22.395 And so yeah, you don't realize, you know, you 00:31:22.395 --> 00:31:23.745 really got to watch your footing cause it 00:31:23.745 --> 00:31:24.495 can happen quickly. 00:31:24.495 --> 00:31:26.085 And of course, they're, they've got their backs 00:31:26.085 --> 00:31:28.755 to me as they're walking to get set up and you 00:31:28.755 --> 00:31:30.895 know, you're all of a sudden in the water and 00:31:31.095 --> 00:31:32.265 luckily the boat was there and I was able 00:31:32.265 --> 00:31:34.335 to grab it and kind of embarrassed over that. 00:31:34.485 --> 00:31:36.345 I think I did admit to it, but lil embarrassed. 00:31:37.095 --> 00:31:38.054 Well, you're out there helping them 00:31:38.115 --> 00:31:39.185 set up the decoys. 00:31:39.185 --> 00:31:39.405 Yep. 00:31:39.554 --> 00:31:41.985 You're helping in the blind, or you're 00:31:41.985 --> 00:31:43.125 helping set up wherever you're going 00:31:43.125 --> 00:31:46.154 to be at, be hunting and the retrieval. 00:31:46.835 --> 00:31:47.855 Yeah, I do the retrieval well. 00:31:47.855 --> 00:31:49.655 So I think that we're kind of creatures 00:31:49.655 --> 00:31:50.885 of habit all, all three of us. 00:31:50.885 --> 00:31:53.495 So we kind of go to the same, the same spot and 00:31:53.495 --> 00:31:54.775 we know where our set up. 00:31:55.565 --> 00:31:57.185 We do a little bit experimenting in other 00:31:57.185 --> 00:31:59.014 areas, but we, we kind of have our favorite spot. 00:31:59.014 --> 00:32:01.294 So we'll get to the, get to the place we 00:32:01.294 --> 00:32:02.135 take our boat normally. 00:32:02.135 --> 00:32:03.815 And the two of them will jump off when 00:32:03.815 --> 00:32:06.084 we've got land decoys as well as the blind. 00:32:06.385 --> 00:32:08.635 And then I'll go back and start deploying 00:32:08.635 --> 00:32:09.715 the water decoys. 00:32:09.715 --> 00:32:11.245 And so they'll be on the shore kind of 00:32:11.245 --> 00:32:12.804 guiding where we, where we want them to go. 00:32:12.804 --> 00:32:14.784 And then once it's set up, then I can 00:32:14.814 --> 00:32:16.764 kind of bring the boat around again and kind 00:32:16.764 --> 00:32:18.715 of all sit back and admire what we've done. 00:32:18.715 --> 00:32:20.274 And if it's going to work this time, or if it's not 00:32:20.274 --> 00:32:23.264 going to work, you know, I think we've changed the 00:32:23.274 --> 00:32:24.475 setup quite a few times. 00:32:24.475 --> 00:32:27.084 And you add, add the robos here and there 00:32:27.084 --> 00:32:29.365 and add more decoys, but I think we've 00:32:29.550 --> 00:32:31.590 got it pretty much down now pretty good. 00:32:31.590 --> 00:32:34.700 And, and then if, if they're successful and 00:32:34.710 --> 00:32:35.970 then they have one, then I'll go jump in 00:32:35.970 --> 00:32:38.340 the boat and I'll go out and do the recovery. 00:32:38.340 --> 00:32:40.290 And that way again, they can kind of focus 00:32:40.290 --> 00:32:42.390 just on watching what's around and seeing 00:32:42.390 --> 00:32:43.230 what's going on there. 00:32:43.230 --> 00:32:45.210 They're obviously very cautious of the fact 00:32:45.210 --> 00:32:46.590 that I'm recovering. 00:32:46.620 --> 00:32:46.830 Right. 00:32:46.980 --> 00:32:49.200 In front, but once I get it and I'm far enough 00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:52.240 away, then if another flock comes, they can 00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:53.410 go back at it right. 00:32:53.780 --> 00:32:55.660 And there's been times where I just kind of 00:32:55.660 --> 00:32:58.150 hunkered down in the boat and then they're going 00:32:58.150 --> 00:32:59.780 to get another one then I don't have to go back. 00:32:59.780 --> 00:33:03.340 But yeah, so we're pretty successful in recovery. 00:33:03.370 --> 00:33:03.910 So it's been good. 00:33:04.060 --> 00:33:05.470 So are you researching as well? 00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:06.639 Are you looking up like how to set 00:33:06.639 --> 00:33:07.840 up the decoys and. 00:33:07.970 --> 00:33:10.409 I think we have kind of enough 00:33:10.409 --> 00:33:11.385 conversations about it. 00:33:11.385 --> 00:33:12.754 I've for sure looked online. 00:33:12.995 --> 00:33:14.774 I've looked on sign, online on calling. 00:33:15.305 --> 00:33:17.225 That was, that was going to be my next question. 00:33:17.225 --> 00:33:18.245 So I think we've all done that. 00:33:18.305 --> 00:33:19.784 He likes to duck call for sure. 00:33:19.784 --> 00:33:21.374 Yeah, I don't know if my, Matts, for sure the 00:33:21.374 --> 00:33:23.625 best duck caller we have. 00:33:23.625 --> 00:33:25.534 If you've probably seen me in rush hour traffic 00:33:25.534 --> 00:33:26.735 on the way home from work, I'll be sitting 00:33:26.735 --> 00:33:28.304 in my car, practicing my duck calling. 00:33:29.705 --> 00:33:31.685 It's definitely something that takes a 00:33:31.685 --> 00:33:34.805 while to master and we all, I think Kanda at 00:33:34.805 --> 00:33:36.165 one point said, Greg, you're scaring 'em 00:33:36.165 --> 00:33:37.475 away, just stop, stop. 00:33:37.475 --> 00:33:38.225 You're scaring 'em away. 00:33:39.095 --> 00:33:40.635 So we all kind of have our strengths and duck 00:33:40.635 --> 00:33:42.545 calling right now is not mine for sure I think 00:33:42.545 --> 00:33:43.725 that's a that's Matts. 00:33:44.215 --> 00:33:45.245 I think I've got about seven or 00:33:45.245 --> 00:33:45.804 eight duck calls. 00:33:45.804 --> 00:33:47.264 Cause I blame it on the duck call more 00:33:47.264 --> 00:33:48.804 than the caller. 00:33:49.225 --> 00:33:50.195 Just like golf clubs, right? 00:33:50.225 --> 00:33:50.705 Exactly. 00:33:50.955 --> 00:33:51.335 Exactly. 00:33:51.335 --> 00:33:52.055 It's the clubs, it's the clubs. 00:33:52.055 --> 00:33:52.695 The new bag I got. 00:33:53.075 --> 00:33:53.774 Not shooting very well. 00:33:53.774 --> 00:33:54.985 I find calling hard. 00:33:55.155 --> 00:33:58.705 Like I'm like you look at it online and these 00:33:58.705 --> 00:34:01.465 guys make it look so easy and this is how 00:34:01.465 --> 00:34:03.235 I do it and this is what you should do. 00:34:03.235 --> 00:34:06.195 And I dunno, I, I guess you gotta practice 00:34:06.195 --> 00:34:08.465 a lot, but I just I'm like, okay, when 00:34:08.465 --> 00:34:09.155 do I call them in? 00:34:09.155 --> 00:34:10.264 When do I don't. 00:34:10.855 --> 00:34:11.715 Am I doing it right? 00:34:11.715 --> 00:34:12.705 Am I scaring them away? 00:34:12.705 --> 00:34:14.864 So I don't know, it's difficult. 00:34:15.195 --> 00:34:17.565 But I think there's a couple cases where you've 00:34:17.565 --> 00:34:19.215 actually called them in, which is more than I 00:34:19.215 --> 00:34:20.264 think me and Roy can say. 00:34:20.775 --> 00:34:22.755 We're even sitting there, we see them circling 00:34:22.755 --> 00:34:24.555 over and then you do the call and you definitely 00:34:24.555 --> 00:34:26.505 see them make that turn and then come towards 00:34:26.505 --> 00:34:27.795 us, which, you know. 00:34:28.005 --> 00:34:29.565 You know, what kind of a day it's been 00:34:29.565 --> 00:34:31.185 when Matt's calling, if he's calling really 00:34:31.185 --> 00:34:32.384 hard, we're pretty dry. 00:34:33.795 --> 00:34:35.165 He wants those bad. 00:34:35.705 --> 00:34:36.034 Yeah. 00:34:36.775 --> 00:34:37.145 You know what? 00:34:37.175 --> 00:34:38.705 The one thing we've learned too, for sure 00:34:38.705 --> 00:34:41.100 is, and I wasn't a believer at first. 00:34:41.580 --> 00:34:42.929 It's all about the blind. 00:34:43.169 --> 00:34:44.219 I thought, no, we're good. 00:34:44.219 --> 00:34:45.479 We're good, they can't see us. 00:34:45.479 --> 00:34:47.019 Matt said they can see us, they can see us. 00:34:47.019 --> 00:34:48.080 I'm like who cares that they see us 00:34:48.080 --> 00:34:48.679 we're not moving. 00:34:49.455 --> 00:34:51.025 I didn't think it was that big of a deal, 00:34:51.695 --> 00:34:55.245 but, the better we got at it and the better 00:34:55.284 --> 00:34:57.585 our blind was the more successful we were. 00:34:57.765 --> 00:34:57.965 Right. 00:34:57.965 --> 00:34:59.715 It was, I was like, really? 00:34:59.715 --> 00:35:00.885 Is it that big of a deal? 00:35:00.885 --> 00:35:02.615 Bud your going overkill man, you've got this 00:35:02.615 --> 00:35:04.475 coming in, you're ordering from this place. 00:35:05.105 --> 00:35:07.625 But no, it really is a big deal. 00:35:07.685 --> 00:35:10.385 The blind is a huge part of everything. 00:35:10.815 --> 00:35:11.985 That was a big thing for us. 00:35:12.075 --> 00:35:13.995 Big turning point was them because 00:35:14.535 --> 00:35:15.915 when we first went out, we were just 00:35:15.915 --> 00:35:17.365 like, kind of sitting there in the reeds. 00:35:17.384 --> 00:35:18.674 Like we, I don't know. 00:35:18.825 --> 00:35:19.365 We sat there. 00:35:19.365 --> 00:35:20.235 Mostly exposed. 00:35:20.235 --> 00:35:20.925 We had two stools. 00:35:20.925 --> 00:35:22.095 Two stools just sitting there. 00:35:22.125 --> 00:35:22.435 Sitting there. 00:35:22.435 --> 00:35:23.775 Well at first we didn't have a stool. 00:35:23.775 --> 00:35:24.674 We're crouching down. 00:35:24.674 --> 00:35:24.964 Yes. 00:35:24.964 --> 00:35:25.455 So uncomfortable. 00:35:25.455 --> 00:35:26.955 But then, then we got stools and we got bags. 00:35:26.955 --> 00:35:27.504 Yep, there you go. 00:35:27.504 --> 00:35:28.044 We're progressive. 00:35:28.664 --> 00:35:30.725 You had full on stools, you don't 00:35:30.725 --> 00:35:31.505 have the bird bucket. 00:35:32.035 --> 00:35:33.674 Turned upside down, you sit on it, turn it over 00:35:33.674 --> 00:35:35.145 to the other way and bring your birds out. 00:35:35.325 --> 00:35:36.134 Oh. 00:35:36.285 --> 00:35:38.085 Bird bucket. 00:35:38.085 --> 00:35:39.585 We just have these little collapsible stools that 00:35:39.605 --> 00:35:42.035 just throw on the boat and don't take up a 00:35:42.035 --> 00:35:44.255 lot of room so yeah. 00:35:44.404 --> 00:35:46.265 Every guy has got, got his job when we 00:35:46.265 --> 00:35:48.515 go out there, it's very systematic. 00:35:49.085 --> 00:35:51.065 You know, these guys are driving, after we get 00:35:51.065 --> 00:35:54.275 there they w, I jump off to, to launch the robos. 00:35:54.945 --> 00:35:57.735 Matt and Greg, have got the other decoys going. 00:35:58.425 --> 00:36:01.195 Once that's set up we, we sit and we wait together 00:36:01.195 --> 00:36:02.595 and it's very systematic. 00:36:02.595 --> 00:36:04.215 And half the time we don't even talk, I 00:36:04.225 --> 00:36:06.195 just it's, it's so serene out there. 00:36:06.195 --> 00:36:10.155 Like for me, everybody that knows me would 00:36:10.155 --> 00:36:13.215 never have imagined that I'd be a duck hunter. 00:36:13.785 --> 00:36:14.085 Yeah. 00:36:14.235 --> 00:36:14.535 No. 00:36:14.985 --> 00:36:16.395 I love being out with these guys. 00:36:16.455 --> 00:36:18.435 It's it's brilliant, it's the best time ever. 00:36:18.435 --> 00:36:19.245 It's something new. 00:36:19.245 --> 00:36:20.955 It's just it's I can't explain it. 00:36:21.015 --> 00:36:21.735 It's brilliant. 00:36:22.425 --> 00:36:23.565 How would you compare it to golf? 00:36:24.885 --> 00:36:25.245 Ooh. 00:36:26.295 --> 00:36:27.405 I know you're quite into golf. 00:36:27.585 --> 00:36:29.325 Yeah I'm a hardcore golfer. 00:36:29.405 --> 00:36:31.195 So last year, I'll put it this way, it was 00:36:31.205 --> 00:36:34.205 a duck hunting season and I was going out 00:36:34.205 --> 00:36:36.125 with the boys here and my brother called me 00:36:36.125 --> 00:36:38.970 he goes, I got a tee time at Mayfair lakes. 00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:41.250 And I love Mayfair, like it's my course of play 00:36:41.250 --> 00:36:43.080 and I said sorry bud I'm hunting tomorrow, 00:36:43.080 --> 00:36:43.799 it's hunting season. 00:36:44.250 --> 00:36:47.009 So now it's either hunting season or 00:36:47.009 --> 00:36:48.089 it's golfing season. 00:36:48.180 --> 00:36:50.400 There are they're fully, even for me. 00:36:50.710 --> 00:36:50.990 Really. 00:36:50.990 --> 00:36:53.009 I have two seasons; it's hunting season or 00:36:53.009 --> 00:36:53.600 it's golfing season. 00:36:53.630 --> 00:36:55.200 If I'm hunting, golfing doesn't matter. 00:36:55.290 --> 00:36:56.400 Are you a competitive golfer? 00:36:56.759 --> 00:36:57.150 No. 00:36:57.550 --> 00:36:59.000 Just go out to have a good time. 00:37:00.500 --> 00:37:02.180 So I guess the next question where I'm going 00:37:02.180 --> 00:37:03.890 with that is hunting. 00:37:04.759 --> 00:37:07.095 Is that a sort of competitive thing with 00:37:07.095 --> 00:37:08.745 you guys when you go out, it's like, Oh no, 00:37:08.745 --> 00:37:10.845 they're coming over, Matt's going to get 00:37:10.845 --> 00:37:11.835 it, better be mine. 00:37:12.115 --> 00:37:12.235 Zero. 00:37:12.335 --> 00:37:13.035 No, I don't think so. 00:37:13.525 --> 00:37:14.985 If for us, sorry Greg, go ahead. 00:37:15.075 --> 00:37:16.635 Yeah, no, I don't see that at all. 00:37:16.635 --> 00:37:19.665 And you know, Roy's a pretty competitive guy. 00:37:19.665 --> 00:37:20.925 I don't think we play around a golf where 00:37:20.925 --> 00:37:22.755 there isn't money of some sort involved in it. 00:37:24.385 --> 00:37:26.475 But not with not with hunting. 00:37:26.535 --> 00:37:28.125 They, I mean, they have their systems, they 00:37:28.125 --> 00:37:29.025 have their stances. 00:37:29.025 --> 00:37:31.875 They, they know, you know, who's, who's 00:37:31.875 --> 00:37:33.135 duck it is depending on what side it's 00:37:33.135 --> 00:37:35.025 coming from, but there's no competitor. 00:37:35.025 --> 00:37:36.735 I mean sure ,afterwards it's nice to say, Oh, 00:37:36.735 --> 00:37:37.735 I got three, I got two. 00:37:38.595 --> 00:37:40.755 But there's no competitiveness during 00:37:40.755 --> 00:37:41.515 the actual hunting. 00:37:42.185 --> 00:37:43.535 It's a team effort for sure. 00:37:43.535 --> 00:37:47.195 When we're out there set up and then yeah. 00:37:47.375 --> 00:37:50.525 If, if there's one duck that's harvested, doesn't 00:37:50.525 --> 00:37:52.835 matter who got it cause we're going to split it. 00:37:53.205 --> 00:37:53.415 Yeah. 00:37:53.565 --> 00:37:54.225 Three ways. 00:37:54.375 --> 00:37:54.735 Right. 00:37:55.035 --> 00:37:57.225 So it's all about like, if I'm having a 00:37:57.225 --> 00:38:00.405 bad shooting day and Matt brings down half 00:38:00.405 --> 00:38:02.535 a dozen, well, I got two coming my way for 00:38:02.535 --> 00:38:03.465 dinner ,that's great. 00:38:03.525 --> 00:38:03.915 Yeah. 00:38:04.125 --> 00:38:05.925 No, it's all about what comes to the boat. 00:38:06.435 --> 00:38:09.705 It's never, I want these guys to do well. 00:38:09.735 --> 00:38:11.225 That is the best way to do it. 00:38:11.285 --> 00:38:11.855 It's a team. 00:38:11.855 --> 00:38:13.985 It's how many can, so Matt and I play a game. 00:38:14.475 --> 00:38:16.095 So we have different goals we want 00:38:16.095 --> 00:38:16.694 to hit right? 00:38:16.694 --> 00:38:19.095 So, okay, Roy has to do a doubleheader, we got two 00:38:19.095 --> 00:38:20.714 going, coming in, we've got to go boom, boom. 00:38:21.484 --> 00:38:23.805 Roy, let's see how many we can take while our, 00:38:23.805 --> 00:38:25.484 you know, we cut the engine on the water 00:38:25.484 --> 00:38:28.585 and take one down as we're in the boat. 00:38:29.645 --> 00:38:30.765 It's more of a team game. 00:38:30.894 --> 00:38:31.214 Right. 00:38:31.214 --> 00:38:32.654 How many can we bring down together? 00:38:32.714 --> 00:38:33.645 That's what we're going for. 00:38:33.935 --> 00:38:34.145 Nope. 00:38:34.955 --> 00:38:36.185 It's worked out well so far. 00:38:36.185 --> 00:38:40.560 So we share, we share the ducks and yeah. 00:38:41.070 --> 00:38:42.090 And they're always discussing 00:38:42.090 --> 00:38:42.840 ways to improve. 00:38:43.020 --> 00:38:45.170 I don't think we've gone out on a trip. 00:38:45.210 --> 00:38:47.670 We've come back and said we were happy with 00:38:47.670 --> 00:38:48.600 the way it was set up. 00:38:48.600 --> 00:38:50.310 Or we were happy with what I think we've 00:38:50.310 --> 00:38:53.109 improved something almost every, even if 00:38:53.130 --> 00:38:55.529 it comes to the weights on the decoys, right? 00:38:55.529 --> 00:38:57.840 I mean, we kept on losing the decoys because of 00:38:57.840 --> 00:38:59.610 the river current and all of a sudden they'd 00:38:59.610 --> 00:39:01.140 be floating away and you have to go chase someone 00:39:01.470 --> 00:39:03.540 and we gotta buy bigger weights now and then you 00:39:03.549 --> 00:39:05.129 got a big, bigger blind. 00:39:05.129 --> 00:39:07.569 And there's always improvements I think 00:39:07.569 --> 00:39:08.910 that, I don't know if we're ever going 00:39:08.910 --> 00:39:12.009 to be happy with, with the setup. 00:39:12.009 --> 00:39:15.209 Especially when there's gear guys at the table. 00:39:16.004 --> 00:39:16.185 Yeah. 00:39:16.214 --> 00:39:17.625 Earlier Matt, you were talking about something 00:39:17.625 --> 00:39:19.845 with your, your decoys, your floating decoys. 00:39:20.085 --> 00:39:21.825 You have a different system now that you're, 00:39:21.855 --> 00:39:22.595 you're trying with them. 00:39:22.745 --> 00:39:25.955 Yeah, I think the first we had line and a J wait. 00:39:26.045 --> 00:39:26.254 Yeah. 00:39:26.345 --> 00:39:26.674 Right. 00:39:26.674 --> 00:39:27.545 So you'd adjust. 00:39:27.785 --> 00:39:29.975 Okay, I think it's this deep here and 00:39:29.975 --> 00:39:31.024 it's dark too right? 00:39:31.024 --> 00:39:33.545 So, and then you put 'em down, tide comes up, 00:39:33.575 --> 00:39:34.774 they sort of float away. 00:39:34.865 --> 00:39:36.924 You gotta, you go out and get 'em. 00:39:37.330 --> 00:39:39.250 And they're just a pain to kind of retrieve. 00:39:39.250 --> 00:39:42.180 So I think it's called a Texas rig, I think 00:39:42.180 --> 00:39:42.900 is what it's called. 00:39:42.900 --> 00:39:45.630 So it's got like a, a certain length line. 00:39:45.630 --> 00:39:47.400 I think we use like a 10 foot line, it's 00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:49.620 got like a mushroom weight on there and 00:39:49.620 --> 00:39:53.400 it's this kind of nylon coated wire I think 00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:54.300 is what it is right? 00:39:54.750 --> 00:39:56.190 And then you just kind of hook them on this 00:39:56.190 --> 00:39:57.960 carabiner and then you just kinda grab 00:39:57.960 --> 00:39:58.860 them all at once so. 00:39:59.730 --> 00:40:00.930 They don't really tangle up. 00:40:00.990 --> 00:40:01.230 Nope. 00:40:01.350 --> 00:40:03.540 You just unhook the carabiner or you 00:40:03.540 --> 00:40:05.280 just toss them out where you want them. 00:40:05.640 --> 00:40:07.440 And then when we retrieve them, you just hook the 00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:09.630 carabiner on and you just drag 'em all up and 00:40:09.810 --> 00:40:10.680 pull them into the boat. 00:40:10.680 --> 00:40:12.420 So that's, that's been good. 00:40:12.420 --> 00:40:13.350 I think it's been way better. 00:40:13.380 --> 00:40:13.560 Yeah. 00:40:13.570 --> 00:40:15.750 Way quicker deploying them and recovering. 00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:17.340 And you can also deploy it from shore, we've 00:40:17.340 --> 00:40:18.000 done a couple of times. 00:40:18.030 --> 00:40:18.210 Yeah. 00:40:18.210 --> 00:40:19.080 You just throw them out. 00:40:19.080 --> 00:40:21.240 The J waits is just a, it was just hard. 00:40:21.270 --> 00:40:21.700 It was a pain. 00:40:21.819 --> 00:40:22.730 Big tangled mess. 00:40:22.730 --> 00:40:23.530 Yeah tangled mess. 00:40:23.550 --> 00:40:24.120 Exactly. 00:40:24.120 --> 00:40:24.360 Yeah. 00:40:24.884 --> 00:40:26.715 And then the current they drag and then they 00:40:26.715 --> 00:40:28.515 drift into each other and it's just, yeah. 00:40:28.775 --> 00:40:30.215 You're guessing exactly how long you want 00:40:30.215 --> 00:40:30.995 the line out and. 00:40:31.174 --> 00:40:31.475 Yeah. 00:40:31.535 --> 00:40:33.395 If you miss it then yeah you're chasing decoys 00:40:33.395 --> 00:40:35.095 all after all, all morning as we're hunting. 00:40:35.404 --> 00:40:35.674 Yeah. 00:40:36.065 --> 00:40:37.035 Yes, not fun. 00:40:37.055 --> 00:40:37.355 No. 00:40:38.195 --> 00:40:39.424 I'll have to put a link to that in the 00:40:39.424 --> 00:40:41.315 podcast notes so the listeners can check out 00:40:41.315 --> 00:40:42.035 what that looks like. 00:40:42.295 --> 00:40:45.245 Yeah and you can get like a, I think it's popular 00:40:45.245 --> 00:40:46.985 down in the States and they're hunting on these 00:40:46.985 --> 00:40:48.845 like shallow ponds so you get like a three 00:40:48.845 --> 00:40:50.975 foot or four foot ones and 10 feet are pretty 00:40:50.975 --> 00:40:53.435 long, but we kinda need them here, but. 00:40:53.680 --> 00:40:54.820 It all works well. 00:40:54.910 --> 00:40:56.080 I like it so. 00:40:56.910 --> 00:40:59.330 So you're a couple years into it now, if you're 00:40:59.350 --> 00:41:02.100 to turn around and try and give some advice 00:41:02.100 --> 00:41:04.350 to beginning you, what would you guys say? 00:41:04.980 --> 00:41:05.520 Safety. 00:41:06.120 --> 00:41:06.360 Okay. 00:41:06.390 --> 00:41:08.190 That's my first thing right there, especially 00:41:08.190 --> 00:41:10.320 for someone like me, like what I did the 00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:14.100 first time we went out and going into the marsh 00:41:14.190 --> 00:41:15.540 without a life vest. 00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:16.839 That's, that's just dumb. 00:41:17.279 --> 00:41:17.549 Yeah. 00:41:17.710 --> 00:41:20.230 For anyone, not just, not just me a non-swimmer. 00:41:20.250 --> 00:41:22.920 I think for anyone, because you could, we 00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:25.575 could have fallen off and gone deep there and 00:41:25.575 --> 00:41:28.334 you're holding a box of ammo and a firearm, 00:41:28.604 --> 00:41:29.924 and you're trying to protect this gun you 00:41:29.944 --> 00:41:31.475 just bought that's so expensive and you 00:41:31.475 --> 00:41:33.855 don't want to go down. 00:41:33.915 --> 00:41:36.694 Even with boat safety for us, we weren't the 00:41:36.694 --> 00:41:37.865 smartest when we started. 00:41:37.865 --> 00:41:40.205 Thank God Gregg came along, we got 00:41:40.205 --> 00:41:41.305 lights and oars now. 00:41:41.995 --> 00:41:44.100 For sure, for me, one of the biggest 00:41:44.100 --> 00:41:45.060 things is safety. 00:41:45.090 --> 00:41:47.880 Even like, I love the way we handle our firearms 00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:49.770 when we're out there, I love the way we pass our 00:41:49.770 --> 00:41:51.090 firearms on the boat. 00:41:51.390 --> 00:41:52.920 I love that we don't drink. 00:41:52.980 --> 00:41:54.240 Those are big things for me. 00:41:54.270 --> 00:41:56.230 Cause I've got two daughters at home and 00:41:56.230 --> 00:42:00.200 a wife and I got too much to live for, to, 00:42:00.200 --> 00:42:01.140 to be silly about it. 00:42:02.110 --> 00:42:06.150 Yeah, I think if we could have asked somebody some 00:42:06.150 --> 00:42:08.910 advice or gone out, like almost like a mentor, 00:42:08.970 --> 00:42:12.060 you know, I think now looking back, I probably 00:42:12.060 --> 00:42:14.130 would ask these questions to these people who are 00:42:14.130 --> 00:42:15.180 experienced, you know. 00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:17.820 Cause not that I'm super experienced, but if 00:42:17.820 --> 00:42:20.190 somebody who's new to it came and asked me, I 00:42:20.190 --> 00:42:22.530 would have no problem, like telling them, I 00:42:22.530 --> 00:42:23.970 might not tell them where to go exactly. 00:42:23.970 --> 00:42:25.790 But I'm going to tell him what to do and 00:42:25.790 --> 00:42:28.040 maybe what not to do and how I got into it. 00:42:28.710 --> 00:42:30.240 I think that would be the biggest thing for 00:42:30.240 --> 00:42:32.190 me is I would just ask more questions on 00:42:32.190 --> 00:42:33.900 what to do and yeah. 00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:35.760 Try and go out with somebody who knows 00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:38.430 what they're doing even once or twice so. 00:42:38.850 --> 00:42:39.660 How do people find that? 00:42:41.300 --> 00:42:41.870 I don't know. 00:42:41.870 --> 00:42:44.960 I just think you've, you just gotta be brave 00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:47.170 enough to ask the guy at the local store 00:42:47.170 --> 00:42:50.540 or, I dunno, it might be more intimidating 00:42:50.540 --> 00:42:52.130 to just walk the bus, somebody who's out at 00:42:52.130 --> 00:42:56.000 the boat launch, but it'd be, I don't know. 00:42:56.070 --> 00:42:56.670 That's hard. 00:42:56.700 --> 00:42:58.740 It would be nice if there was some kind of 00:42:58.740 --> 00:43:01.230 program or something like, I don't know. 00:43:01.290 --> 00:43:02.490 It's hard, but. 00:43:03.570 --> 00:43:04.940 Yeah, I think it definitely, I think that 00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:07.580 if there was a facility that would offer programs 00:43:07.580 --> 00:43:09.020 for first time hunters. 00:43:09.575 --> 00:43:11.015 It would do extremely well. 00:43:11.435 --> 00:43:13.254 I think any place that say, Hey, we're looking 00:43:13.254 --> 00:43:15.845 for first time hunters, we want to take you out. 00:43:15.875 --> 00:43:18.095 We'll show you the do's and don'ts and 00:43:18.095 --> 00:43:19.955 the etiquette and different things. 00:43:20.404 --> 00:43:21.694 I think that make a huge difference. 00:43:21.694 --> 00:43:23.194 I would sign up for a course like that 00:43:23.194 --> 00:43:23.674 in a heartbeat. 00:43:23.964 --> 00:43:24.325 Yeah. 00:43:24.504 --> 00:43:24.955 Oh yeah. 00:43:25.615 --> 00:43:27.504 I think they'd have to tread a pretty 00:43:27.504 --> 00:43:29.305 careful line on that because then the guide 00:43:29.305 --> 00:43:31.705 Outfitters get involved in are you guiding or 00:43:31.705 --> 00:43:32.654 are you teaching or. 00:43:32.884 --> 00:43:33.115 Yeah. 00:43:33.115 --> 00:43:35.455 So it's, .I think that's part of the reason why 00:43:35.455 --> 00:43:37.254 we don't see too many of those out there. 00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:40.800 Even if you didn't hunt, but they just sort 00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:43.560 of show you like, you know what you should, 00:43:43.560 --> 00:43:44.280 and shouldn't do. 00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:45.990 Even just showing you that kind of thing. 00:43:45.990 --> 00:43:47.590 Not, not just sitting in the blind and 00:43:47.590 --> 00:43:49.500 actually hunting for the ducks, but just 00:43:49.830 --> 00:43:51.030 some basic stuff. 00:43:51.060 --> 00:43:53.850 Like how do you set decoys? 00:43:53.940 --> 00:43:54.780 How do you put them out? 00:43:54.780 --> 00:43:56.250 Like, even if you're not hunting from, 00:43:56.250 --> 00:43:58.050 but just, this is how you sort of do it. 00:43:58.050 --> 00:43:59.130 Just an idea. 00:43:59.220 --> 00:44:01.050 You know, you don't have to give all your 00:44:01.050 --> 00:44:03.840 tricks away to these people, but some idea 00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:04.830 would be good, you know? 00:44:05.549 --> 00:44:08.700 This is kind of, this is how ducks fly in, or 00:44:08.700 --> 00:44:09.930 this is what they do. 00:44:09.930 --> 00:44:10.620 You know what I mean? 00:44:10.620 --> 00:44:12.450 Like the behaviors and stuff like that. 00:44:12.450 --> 00:44:14.160 And little things like that would 00:44:14.160 --> 00:44:15.060 be very helpful. 00:44:15.750 --> 00:44:18.299 So, but I just, I don't know where you get that. 00:44:19.230 --> 00:44:21.450 You gain that knowledge, I guess, but from. 00:44:21.759 --> 00:44:22.700 Grandpa YouTube. 00:44:22.970 --> 00:44:23.600 There you go. 00:44:24.350 --> 00:44:25.160 And that's where most people are 00:44:25.160 --> 00:44:25.759 getting it from. 00:44:25.790 --> 00:44:26.000 Yeah. 00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:27.610 How bout you Greg? 00:44:27.675 --> 00:44:29.085 We've had a lot of discussions on Friday 00:44:29.085 --> 00:44:31.545 nights over the odd beverage, talking about 00:44:31.545 --> 00:44:32.775 what we're going to improve on or what we 00:44:32.775 --> 00:44:35.095 can look up and try to try to do better. 00:44:35.545 --> 00:44:38.835 I think just, I mean, I'm not actually doing the 00:44:38.835 --> 00:44:40.755 hunting side of it, but I think it's, if you, I 00:44:40.755 --> 00:44:41.734 mean the safety for sure. 00:44:41.734 --> 00:44:42.455 Well, you kind of are. 00:44:42.484 --> 00:44:43.745 Everything other than pulling the trigger. 00:44:43.745 --> 00:44:45.315 Everything other than pulling trigger for sure. 00:44:45.315 --> 00:44:48.169 And I think it's just taking your time 00:44:48.649 --> 00:44:49.310 is the big thing. 00:44:49.310 --> 00:44:50.509 You can't rush into anything. 00:44:50.509 --> 00:44:52.339 You gotta make sure you got the right spot and 00:44:52.580 --> 00:44:53.580 you got the right setup. 00:44:53.580 --> 00:44:56.910 And, you know, if you're not ready and they're 00:44:56.930 --> 00:44:58.970 flying over, you gotta just take your time. 00:44:58.970 --> 00:45:01.220 And even, even when they are coming in and 00:45:01.220 --> 00:45:02.959 these guys sometimes get a little anxious 00:45:02.959 --> 00:45:05.149 and it's easy for me to criticize because I'm 00:45:05.149 --> 00:45:07.040 not the one with the firearm or pulling the 00:45:07.040 --> 00:45:09.379 trigger, but you know, I'll sit back and watch 00:45:09.379 --> 00:45:10.279 and see this come in. 00:45:10.279 --> 00:45:11.810 And I'm like, okay, they're, they're going to 00:45:11.810 --> 00:45:13.370 land and all of a sudden, boom, boom, boom, boom. 00:45:13.370 --> 00:45:14.359 And they all fly over it. 00:45:14.640 --> 00:45:16.259 It's like ugh, you could have waited a 00:45:16.259 --> 00:45:19.020 little longer, but I, I get the anticipation 00:45:19.020 --> 00:45:21.569 and the, you know the want to take them 00:45:21.569 --> 00:45:22.600 down right away right. 00:45:22.720 --> 00:45:23.130 Right. 00:45:23.839 --> 00:45:26.220 So I think w with just, it's a, it's a sport 00:45:26.660 --> 00:45:28.470 somewhat like fishing where you just need 00:45:28.470 --> 00:45:30.270 to have the patience and you're not going 00:45:30.270 --> 00:45:31.410 to be successful every time you go out. 00:45:31.410 --> 00:45:33.930 And I think that's part of the attraction for me 00:45:33.930 --> 00:45:35.910 is, you know, going out and see how successful 00:45:35.910 --> 00:45:36.690 we can be every time. 00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:37.410 Totally. 00:45:37.680 --> 00:45:38.490 If it was easy. 00:45:39.029 --> 00:45:39.569 Absolutely. 00:45:39.600 --> 00:45:40.259 There'd be no. 00:45:40.695 --> 00:45:42.315 It wouldn't hold that same appeal. 00:45:42.675 --> 00:45:44.355 If that learning curve wasn't there, if you 00:45:44.355 --> 00:45:46.005 weren't always constantly learning something new 00:45:46.005 --> 00:45:46.905 every time you went out. 00:45:47.925 --> 00:45:48.855 Yeah, for sure. 00:45:48.855 --> 00:45:49.055 I agree. 00:45:50.004 --> 00:45:52.005 I think this gives a good sort of intro 00:45:52.005 --> 00:45:53.985 for new people kind of getting into it. 00:45:54.965 --> 00:45:55.265 Yeah. 00:45:55.305 --> 00:45:57.215 Few adventures, few stories, but. 00:45:57.665 --> 00:46:00.515 And definitely, you know, starting at 00:46:00.515 --> 00:46:03.035 the beginning, going to the gun club 00:46:03.305 --> 00:46:04.865 to get comfortable with your firearm. 00:46:04.895 --> 00:46:05.165 Yeah. 00:46:05.904 --> 00:46:06.915 Was a big thing. 00:46:07.064 --> 00:46:07.935 Was that intimidating? 00:46:08.265 --> 00:46:08.965 Hundred percent. 00:46:08.965 --> 00:46:09.255 Yeah. 00:46:09.255 --> 00:46:09.335 Yeah. 00:46:09.535 --> 00:46:11.015 From a guy who thinks he's all tough and 00:46:11.105 --> 00:46:13.305 yeah, it was very, very intimidating. 00:46:13.845 --> 00:46:14.205 Yeah. 00:46:14.295 --> 00:46:16.234 Very intimidating just being at the gun club. 00:46:17.345 --> 00:46:19.205 Didn't want to do the wrong thing right. 00:46:19.205 --> 00:46:21.544 So being able to handle your firearm, knowing 00:46:21.544 --> 00:46:23.314 how to take your firearm apart and put 00:46:23.314 --> 00:46:25.954 it back together again, also very important. 00:46:26.154 --> 00:46:26.564 Yes. 00:46:26.814 --> 00:46:29.194 Knowing how to clean it, also very important. 00:46:29.585 --> 00:46:31.085 Before you go out hunting. 00:46:32.250 --> 00:46:33.600 Knowing how to do those things. 00:46:33.990 --> 00:46:34.620 I think it's a big deal. 00:46:34.940 --> 00:46:35.180 Yeah. 00:46:35.210 --> 00:46:36.650 Being comfortable, shooting your gun 00:46:36.650 --> 00:46:37.340 was a big thing. 00:46:37.340 --> 00:46:39.530 Like I think the first time we went and did 00:46:39.530 --> 00:46:42.350 trap and we didn't know the etiquette, 00:46:42.360 --> 00:46:44.300 I think we, I kind of looked it up online. 00:46:45.240 --> 00:46:47.940 We kind of went there, we stood back for probably 00:46:47.940 --> 00:46:49.670 a good half an hour, kind of just watched 00:46:49.670 --> 00:46:51.240 sort of what was going on and be like, okay, 00:46:51.240 --> 00:46:52.230 I think we got this. 00:46:52.710 --> 00:46:53.970 And then, you know. 00:46:54.530 --> 00:46:55.090 I asked a guy. 00:46:55.090 --> 00:46:55.560 I asked a guy. 00:46:55.560 --> 00:46:56.860 And you asked the. 00:46:56.860 --> 00:46:57.080 I asked the. 00:46:57.080 --> 00:46:57.850 Older gentleman there. 00:46:57.850 --> 00:47:00.470 No I asked the younger guy, the older guys 00:47:00.470 --> 00:47:01.910 later I asked the younger guy and this 00:47:01.910 --> 00:47:03.220 young guy was great. 00:47:03.580 --> 00:47:05.340 He's like, bud, watch your muzzle. 00:47:05.950 --> 00:47:09.005 Do this, only one in the chamber, don't close it. 00:47:09.305 --> 00:47:09.955 He was great. 00:47:09.955 --> 00:47:11.095 Cause I was nervous. 00:47:11.185 --> 00:47:12.265 I was like, Oh my God, I'm so 00:47:12.265 --> 00:47:13.105 nervous, so nervous. 00:47:13.595 --> 00:47:15.445 so he was very helpful. 00:47:15.625 --> 00:47:18.145 And then poor Mattie over here got one stuck. 00:47:19.945 --> 00:47:22.255 He was trying to get it out, that's when the old 00:47:22.255 --> 00:47:23.395 guy gave you a hard time. 00:47:24.060 --> 00:47:25.940 Yeah, I was trying to get it out, it 00:47:25.940 --> 00:47:26.640 was stuck in there. 00:47:26.640 --> 00:47:27.690 He's just, Hey, just watch where 00:47:27.690 --> 00:47:28.920 you're pointing your gun or whatever. 00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:30.240 And rightfully so like. 00:47:30.240 --> 00:47:30.510 Sure. 00:47:30.720 --> 00:47:31.950 I don't think it was anything dangerous, 00:47:31.950 --> 00:47:33.900 but he just said, Hey, just watch, watch 00:47:33.900 --> 00:47:34.980 your direction there. 00:47:34.980 --> 00:47:35.840 And that was good. 00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:36.640 It was good. 00:47:36.640 --> 00:47:37.950 That was good, called me out. 00:47:38.310 --> 00:47:39.630 But he was, he was good. 00:47:39.630 --> 00:47:42.570 He sort of explained, you know, I'll be at the 00:47:42.570 --> 00:47:44.160 start here and this is how it's going to work. 00:47:44.160 --> 00:47:45.840 We go down the line of five and each 00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:46.830 one takes one shot. 00:47:46.830 --> 00:47:51.345 So after that, once we got comfortable, it was 00:47:51.345 --> 00:47:53.174 way better like that for after that first 00:47:53.174 --> 00:47:56.505 time, I felt way more comfortable for sure. 00:47:56.565 --> 00:47:56.865 Oh yeah. 00:47:56.915 --> 00:47:57.125 Yeah. 00:47:57.735 --> 00:47:59.505 Did you have a lot of people over your shoulder 00:47:59.535 --> 00:48:00.334 trying to give advice? 00:48:01.064 --> 00:48:03.575 Not really there. 00:48:03.575 --> 00:48:05.915 There was a, a gentleman who worked there, he's 00:48:05.915 --> 00:48:07.145 like, I think you're a little bit high, 00:48:07.145 --> 00:48:08.315 those guns shoot high. 00:48:08.315 --> 00:48:10.145 And I'm like, okay, I don't know. 00:48:10.145 --> 00:48:12.095 I didn't really pay attention to them, but 00:48:13.064 --> 00:48:15.045 when we were there, nobody really tried to 00:48:15.045 --> 00:48:16.924 give too much advice, to be honest so. 00:48:17.165 --> 00:48:19.065 Just watch your muzzle, watch your muzzle. 00:48:19.205 --> 00:48:19.565 Yeah. 00:48:19.595 --> 00:48:21.665 Which is it should do, but. 00:48:21.665 --> 00:48:22.515 Absolutely. 00:48:22.955 --> 00:48:24.815 Nobody really tried to give us any advice on 00:48:24.815 --> 00:48:25.895 what we were doing wrong. 00:48:26.685 --> 00:48:28.395 I was holding my gun in the wrong place, 00:48:28.395 --> 00:48:29.145 like I learned that. 00:48:29.145 --> 00:48:30.585 I had a huge bruise on my shoulder. 00:48:30.585 --> 00:48:31.964 I'm like, I was way too low. 00:48:32.325 --> 00:48:34.035 So I knew I wasn't hitting anything, 00:48:34.035 --> 00:48:35.565 but I mean, that was learning experience. 00:48:35.565 --> 00:48:36.935 I didn't do that ever again so. 00:48:37.095 --> 00:48:37.285 Right. 00:48:38.355 --> 00:48:39.825 But the feeling when you hit your 00:48:39.825 --> 00:48:40.785 first clay target. 00:48:40.825 --> 00:48:41.145 Oh yeah. 00:48:41.175 --> 00:48:41.925 Oh magic. 00:48:42.565 --> 00:48:43.135 Magic. 00:48:43.345 --> 00:48:44.714 Almost as good as when you harvest 00:48:44.714 --> 00:48:45.495 your first duck. 00:48:46.634 --> 00:48:48.555 Yeah, that was pretty cool. 00:48:50.025 --> 00:48:50.475 I love it. 00:48:51.134 --> 00:48:51.404 Yeah. 00:48:51.825 --> 00:48:53.444 Well guys, thank you very much for being on 00:48:53.444 --> 00:48:55.725 the, on the show and for sharing your experiences. 00:48:55.725 --> 00:48:58.095 That's definitely encouraging for other 00:48:58.095 --> 00:49:00.585 people out there to know that it is intimidating. 00:49:00.735 --> 00:49:02.765 Like I, I was raised around firearms. 00:49:02.765 --> 00:49:04.265 I've been going to the ranges ever since I've 00:49:04.265 --> 00:49:06.484 been a wee one and I've got a little bit 00:49:06.484 --> 00:49:08.884 different perspective, but somebody just brand 00:49:08.884 --> 00:49:11.845 new getting into it, that's a lot to take in. 00:49:12.384 --> 00:49:12.805 For sure. 00:49:13.275 --> 00:49:14.085 Thanks very much guys. 00:49:14.235 --> 00:49:14.925 It was a good time. 00:49:14.955 --> 00:49:15.575 Thanks for having us. 00:49:15.575 --> 00:49:16.725 Yeah, thanks for having us for sure.