WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.850 --> 00:00:03.710 You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a 2 00:00:03.750 --> 00:00:06.509 couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun and 3 00:00:06.589 --> 00:00:13.240 practical ways. Hey, everybody. Thanks for tuning in to another 4 00:00:13.279 --> 00:00:14.199 episode of The Bible Guys. 5 00:00:14.220 --> 00:00:14.500 Yeah. 6 00:00:14.660 --> 00:00:15.160 I'm Chris. 7 00:00:15.400 --> 00:00:16.179 And I'm Wesley. 8 00:00:16.420 --> 00:00:18.600 And so we're here. We're your Bible Guys this week 9 00:00:18.620 --> 00:00:20.870 because Jeff's out of town. And we're in the middle 10 00:00:20.890 --> 00:00:23.030 of a series called Dangerous Prayers. 11 00:00:23.170 --> 00:00:23.429 Yeah. 12 00:00:23.649 --> 00:00:25.890 But before we do that, we have a segment called 13 00:00:25.910 --> 00:00:30.329 Hot Takes Showdown. This is a newer segment. Have you 14 00:00:30.370 --> 00:00:30.910 ever done this one? 15 00:00:30.969 --> 00:00:32.609 You know, I've never done this one. Okay. 16 00:00:32.750 --> 00:00:35.170 So it says, and so Desiree says, I'll give you 17 00:00:35.229 --> 00:00:39.159 a controversial statement. And you must either defend it or 18 00:00:39.200 --> 00:00:41.640 debunk it. And get this, no middle ground. 19 00:00:41.840 --> 00:00:42.159 Okay. 20 00:00:42.179 --> 00:00:43.320 So you got to go after it. 21 00:00:43.399 --> 00:00:43.719 Yeah. 22 00:00:43.799 --> 00:00:45.000 So whatever opinion you have. 23 00:00:45.259 --> 00:00:45.820 This is it. 24 00:00:46.039 --> 00:00:47.950 Go after it with reckless abandon. 25 00:00:48.340 --> 00:00:48.560 Okay. 26 00:00:48.810 --> 00:00:50.170 Here we go. Ready? Here's the first statement. 27 00:00:50.250 --> 00:00:50.450 Okay. 28 00:00:50.890 --> 00:00:52.090 Crocs are fashionable. 29 00:00:52.530 --> 00:00:56.570 Oh, that's easy. No. Yeah. They are not fashionable. They 30 00:00:56.609 --> 00:00:59.909 might be comfortable. Yeah. But they are not fashionable. Yeah. 31 00:00:59.950 --> 00:01:02.060 So I'm a hard no on the Crocs. And my 32 00:01:02.100 --> 00:01:04.680 daughter loves Crocs. Yeah. Like when we like go on 33 00:01:04.719 --> 00:01:09.689 vacation or whatever, she'll... Throw all the Crocs in the suitcase. So, yeah, 34 00:01:09.719 --> 00:01:13.239 but I'm a hard no on the fashionable aspect. Yeah. Now, 35 00:01:13.299 --> 00:01:13.930 what about.. 36 00:01:13.799 --> 00:01:17.340 I'm so sorry. This low lighting room is killing me. 37 00:01:17.540 --> 00:01:18.500 Yeah. 38 00:01:18.560 --> 00:01:23.480 What about Crocs with no socks? Wait, people wear. 39 00:01:23.299 --> 00:01:24.189 Crocs with socks? 40 00:01:24.780 --> 00:01:26.590 All the time. Oh, no. 41 00:01:26.689 --> 00:01:28.629 That is a major faux pas. 42 00:01:28.650 --> 00:01:28.810 Yeah. 43 00:01:30.489 --> 00:01:34.450 No, no socks with crocs. No socks with sandals of 44 00:01:34.469 --> 00:01:35.209 any kind. 45 00:01:35.310 --> 00:01:35.730 I agree. 46 00:01:35.810 --> 00:01:39.319 And I'm putting crocs in the sandals category. 47 00:01:39.560 --> 00:01:44.280 And so I tell you what, I like to be controversial. 48 00:01:44.500 --> 00:01:46.019 I would like to go the other way and say 49 00:01:46.040 --> 00:01:49.760 crocs are fashionable, but they're the worst. So yeah, I'm 50 00:01:49.799 --> 00:01:51.890 with you on that. That's my hot take as well. 51 00:01:52.109 --> 00:01:52.790 Oh, that is fun. 52 00:01:52.829 --> 00:01:53.829 All right, you want to do the second one? 53 00:01:53.950 --> 00:02:00.189 Okay. The moon landing was filmed, but not faked. It 54 00:02:00.250 --> 00:02:02.450 was just really boring, so they reshot it. 55 00:02:04.109 --> 00:02:05.069 Oh my goodness. 56 00:02:05.109 --> 00:02:06.849 Yeah, so it's not safe that the brain- Have we 57 00:02:06.870 --> 00:02:07.950 talked about this before? 58 00:02:07.969 --> 00:02:11.240 I don't think so. Does Desiree choose this because she 59 00:02:11.280 --> 00:02:12.300 knows this is a hot topic? 60 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:13.740 Yeah. 61 00:02:13.819 --> 00:02:16.780 I'm not sure how well Desiree knows on this area. 62 00:02:17.639 --> 00:02:21.159 I'd be very interested to hear a serious take on 63 00:02:21.199 --> 00:02:21.639 this for you. 64 00:02:21.860 --> 00:02:25.199 Yeah. So I'm in the camp. I don't believe it 65 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:25.759 was faked. 66 00:02:27.060 --> 00:02:31.439 Okay. Was there something filmed that wasn't the actual moon landing? 67 00:02:31.860 --> 00:02:33.139 And was that part of the equation? 68 00:02:33.259 --> 00:02:35.500 See, that's a different conversation. 69 00:02:35.520 --> 00:02:36.199 No, that's what she said. 70 00:02:36.319 --> 00:02:41.180 Well, so as far as did they walk on the moon? 71 00:02:41.240 --> 00:02:45.659 Did they? I believe that 100% that that happened. This 72 00:02:47.289 --> 00:02:50.469 is a more complex question. And the reason I say 73 00:02:50.509 --> 00:02:53.349 that is, You got to remember where the United States 74 00:02:53.430 --> 00:02:57.569 was at the time with Russia, the Cold War, the 75 00:02:57.629 --> 00:03:01.439 space race, and all of that. The U.S. would have 76 00:03:01.509 --> 00:03:06.419 done whatever was necessary to cast a positive light on 77 00:03:07.580 --> 00:03:11.979 the mission. So could there have been some photo touch-ups 78 00:03:12.039 --> 00:03:15.449 or something? Quite possibly. I don't know. But that could 79 00:03:15.610 --> 00:03:18.389 very well be possible. But as it relates to did 80 00:03:18.449 --> 00:03:20.250 they actually go to the moon, I think they actually 81 00:03:20.270 --> 00:03:20.750 went to the moon. 82 00:03:21.370 --> 00:03:27.810 You know, it's, you know, it's, you know, it's interesting is, um, so, uh, uh, 83 00:03:27.810 --> 00:03:31.530 50 years ago, even, even 30 years ago before the internet, um, 84 00:03:32.129 --> 00:03:35.250 there was really no debate at all about whether there 85 00:03:35.270 --> 00:03:37.990 was any conspiracy for moon landing. Right. Yeah. I mean, 86 00:03:38.050 --> 00:03:40.810 we haven't, we haven't heard this until probably the last, what, 87 00:03:40.810 --> 00:03:43.090 10 years? Yeah. Uh, probably the last five years, really 88 00:03:43.129 --> 00:03:45.580 a lot, depending on, you know, your, your chat thread 89 00:03:45.599 --> 00:03:46.319 or your algorithm. 90 00:03:46.500 --> 00:03:46.659 Yeah. 91 00:03:46.699 --> 00:03:48.879 Some of you, you're like, this is a thing, right? Yeah. 92 00:03:49.180 --> 00:03:52.250 But you have no algorithm, you know, whatever. That's fine. 93 00:03:52.669 --> 00:03:54.530 But once you sort of dive down the. 94 00:03:54.490 --> 00:03:57.330 Hole, I was going to say, go down the rabbit. 95 00:03:56.590 --> 00:03:59.840 Trail, then all of a sudden that the algorithm on 96 00:03:59.879 --> 00:04:02.620 your social media brings everything up. And because I went 97 00:04:02.639 --> 00:04:05.219 down the rabbit hole, I've seen everything there is to 98 00:04:05.259 --> 00:04:10.379 see just about, I have seen every single conspiracy theory real. 99 00:04:10.930 --> 00:04:14.169 And I've seen, I would say almost as much, not 100 00:04:14.270 --> 00:04:18.550 quite as much, but almost as much defensive reels, right? 101 00:04:18.649 --> 00:04:18.829 Yeah. 102 00:04:18.860 --> 00:04:22.240 Like this is absolute proof that we've gone to the moon. Yeah. 103 00:04:22.259 --> 00:04:24.779 You know, just, you know, science, you know, all the 104 00:04:24.839 --> 00:04:26.120 science behind everything, right? 105 00:04:26.220 --> 00:04:26.459 Yeah. 106 00:04:26.740 --> 00:04:29.230 And so here's what I find very interesting. 107 00:04:29.389 --> 00:04:29.589 Yeah. 108 00:04:29.750 --> 00:04:31.149 I find very interesting. I'll just say this. Yeah. 109 00:04:31.170 --> 00:04:31.319 That.. 110 00:04:34.129 --> 00:04:37.009 So let's pretend you're NASA. Okay. And all of a sudden, 111 00:04:37.810 --> 00:04:41.199 and by the way, NASA claims currently, this is all fact. 112 00:04:41.600 --> 00:04:44.819 You can Google all this. NASA currently claims, number one, 113 00:04:44.879 --> 00:04:48.279 they're like, hey, where's the technology to go back to 114 00:04:48.300 --> 00:04:50.879 the moon? They literally say, this is their official statement. 115 00:04:51.500 --> 00:04:52.519 It got lost somehow. 116 00:04:53.560 --> 00:04:53.870 Yeah. 117 00:04:54.120 --> 00:04:55.509 And they say, well, do we have the technology to 118 00:04:55.529 --> 00:04:57.410 go back to the moon? And they go, no. And 119 00:04:57.430 --> 00:05:00.490 they say, why? And they say, well, we lost it. 120 00:05:00.529 --> 00:05:03.060 We don't know. And they say, okay, well, let's review 121 00:05:03.100 --> 00:05:05.939 original tapes. And they say they were misplaced. They don't 122 00:05:05.959 --> 00:05:07.860 know where they are. So nothing exists. 123 00:05:08.120 --> 00:05:08.500 Yeah. 124 00:05:09.019 --> 00:05:12.079 Okay. Now, that's just a fact. Now, your opinion about that, 125 00:05:12.160 --> 00:05:12.519 I don't know. 126 00:05:12.860 --> 00:05:13.339 Yeah. Okay. 127 00:05:13.540 --> 00:05:18.279 They also say, you know, back in the 60s, with 128 00:05:18.319 --> 00:05:21.279 less technology that was in this phone, we were able 129 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:24.720 to get past the, you know, that radiation barrier. Yeah. 130 00:05:24.819 --> 00:05:27.389 You know, the humans and get to the moon. Uh, 131 00:05:27.550 --> 00:05:30.589 somehow with technology in, in a little chef, you know, 132 00:05:30.629 --> 00:05:32.189 shuttle that looked like it was a tin can. 133 00:05:32.350 --> 00:05:32.569 Yeah. 134 00:05:33.029 --> 00:05:35.730 And now here we are, you know, almost a hundred 135 00:05:35.750 --> 00:05:39.430 years later, it seems like, what is it? 80 years later. And, uh, 136 00:05:39.509 --> 00:05:41.829 and we can't even come close to doing that. So 137 00:05:41.850 --> 00:05:43.089 we've not sent anybody back. Right. 138 00:05:43.250 --> 00:05:43.449 Yeah. 139 00:05:43.689 --> 00:05:47.009 And, and all the technology is lost. Now, right then 140 00:05:47.040 --> 00:05:49.220 and there, you can have your opinions. And then if 141 00:05:49.259 --> 00:05:51.220 you want to analyze all the, all the, the footage 142 00:05:51.240 --> 00:05:53.480 and everything else. And so I'm just, so I see 143 00:05:53.540 --> 00:05:56.680 very compelling things for, I see very compelling things against. 144 00:05:57.370 --> 00:06:01.139 So if you're NASA and you have the entire world 145 00:06:01.800 --> 00:06:06.519 beating down on your door saying, I can't believe that 146 00:06:06.620 --> 00:06:11.899 you lied to us, just prove that you went. And then, 147 00:06:11.920 --> 00:06:14.079 of course, you have Buzz Aldrin, who's publicly said that 148 00:06:14.100 --> 00:06:16.839 it was a hoax. He's online saying, we didn't go. 149 00:06:17.199 --> 00:06:20.019 He said that three times. He said that publicly. And 150 00:06:20.060 --> 00:06:22.269 people are like, oh, he's crazy, that old man, right? 151 00:06:22.329 --> 00:06:22.449 Yeah. 152 00:06:23.129 --> 00:06:25.550 And so you have all these things. So if you're 153 00:06:25.610 --> 00:06:29.649 NASA and you have all this controversy, right? Why would 154 00:06:29.730 --> 00:06:35.089 you allow the film that was just made by Channing 155 00:06:35.110 --> 00:06:37.870 Tatum and Scarlett Johansson called Fly Me to the Moon? 156 00:06:38.449 --> 00:06:41.060 Why would you allow that to be filmed on NASA property? 157 00:06:41.829 --> 00:06:42.069 Yeah. 158 00:06:42.449 --> 00:06:43.459 Do you know what the film's about? 159 00:06:44.500 --> 00:06:45.160 No. Okay. 160 00:06:45.600 --> 00:06:49.199 We're only at six minutes, so I'll make this very quickly. Basically, 161 00:06:49.360 --> 00:06:52.290 it's about... What they're saying is it's not based on 162 00:06:52.310 --> 00:06:55.250 a true story, right? But basically what they're saying is 163 00:06:56.050 --> 00:07:00.149 they made a movie that says, no, the filming was real, 164 00:07:00.689 --> 00:07:05.519 but because the moon landing was real, it was absolutely 165 00:07:05.540 --> 00:07:06.060 what happened. 166 00:07:06.139 --> 00:07:06.360 Yeah. 167 00:07:06.899 --> 00:07:10.639 But because they were worried that it might not have 168 00:07:10.680 --> 00:07:15.439 been able to happen, they hired the Scarlett Johansson person 169 00:07:15.819 --> 00:07:18.329 to hire a director and they created a movie set. 170 00:07:19.069 --> 00:07:21.850 And so all those controversial tapes where it says, he's 171 00:07:21.930 --> 00:07:24.540 on wires. Yeah. Look, you can tell there's a wire. 172 00:07:25.500 --> 00:07:28.740 This movie said, no, there was a set. And so 173 00:07:28.779 --> 00:07:30.980 they filmed it and they went live to the nation 174 00:07:31.019 --> 00:07:33.500 on set. Right. And then all of a sudden when 175 00:07:33.540 --> 00:07:36.480 they landed, they're like, switch over, switch over. And then 176 00:07:36.519 --> 00:07:37.220 they switched over. 177 00:07:37.240 --> 00:07:37.740 Yeah. 178 00:07:38.120 --> 00:07:40.149 And so, and so what they did was that movie 179 00:07:40.189 --> 00:07:46.110 somehow just planted like a solution to the controversy that says, oh, okay. 180 00:07:46.819 --> 00:07:48.079 I guess both were true. 181 00:07:48.360 --> 00:07:48.620 Yeah. 182 00:07:48.959 --> 00:07:53.220 Right? I guess there was a set for all the 183 00:07:53.259 --> 00:07:57.009 film analysis people that are like, here's the 10 things 184 00:07:57.050 --> 00:07:58.050 that prove this is fake. 185 00:07:58.189 --> 00:07:59.410 Yeah. 186 00:07:59.689 --> 00:08:03.089 This film said, oh, both things happened at once. 187 00:08:03.310 --> 00:08:03.529 Yeah. 188 00:08:04.189 --> 00:08:08.069 And NASA agreed to have that film be filmed on 189 00:08:08.149 --> 00:08:08.939 NASA property. 190 00:08:09.189 --> 00:08:09.389 Yeah. 191 00:08:09.660 --> 00:08:14.790 Now, if there was no set, Why would you ever 192 00:08:14.930 --> 00:08:20.540 entertain the idea implanted in the American public that there 193 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:23.939 was a set? Yeah. And by the way, of all 194 00:08:23.980 --> 00:08:27.180 the things, and it sounds crazy because I'm a Hollywood guy. Yeah. 195 00:08:27.480 --> 00:08:30.959 Of all the things that I'm confused about, that's the 196 00:08:30.980 --> 00:08:34.899 biggest one. Yeah. NASA said yes to that film. And 197 00:08:34.960 --> 00:08:37.580 it's like, why would you ever do that? Dude, if I'm, 198 00:08:37.659 --> 00:08:40.100 if I'm, if I'm standing on the truth, I'm, I'm, 199 00:08:40.240 --> 00:08:41.340 I'm going, I'm doubling down. 200 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:41.720 Yeah. 201 00:08:41.919 --> 00:08:45.519 And I'm saying there is no guys, there is no 202 00:08:45.559 --> 00:08:46.330 way this is fake. 203 00:08:46.490 --> 00:08:46.759 Yeah. 204 00:08:46.799 --> 00:08:50.110 Right. And, and, and come on, there was nothing was 205 00:08:50.230 --> 00:08:53.049 faked in front of the public eye instead. They're like, yeah, 206 00:08:53.070 --> 00:08:53.429 come film. 207 00:08:54.490 --> 00:08:58.509 I think you're a private investigator in your part time. Yeah. Yeah. 208 00:08:58.549 --> 00:09:01.220 Well, okay. Listen, we have, we have, we have 15 209 00:09:01.220 --> 00:09:02.159 seconds for your response. 210 00:09:02.700 --> 00:09:02.840 Yeah. 211 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:05.820 What is your hot take on my little NASA thing? 212 00:09:06.299 --> 00:09:11.100 So I think the idea of having a backup is 213 00:09:11.159 --> 00:09:17.879 plausible in terms of American morale during that period when 214 00:09:17.919 --> 00:09:20.600 we were up against the Russians. So they had already 215 00:09:20.659 --> 00:09:21.460 got Sputnik. 216 00:09:21.899 --> 00:09:24.100 But they didn't admit that that film was real. 217 00:09:24.220 --> 00:09:28.179 So, no, I... But I believe that it's plausible that 218 00:09:28.419 --> 00:09:31.299 someone thought, hey, we probably need to have a backup 219 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:35.340 in case things go wrong. That's plausible. Sure. In understanding 220 00:09:35.779 --> 00:09:37.539 how things were in that period. 221 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:39.799 And I think that's the reason why the movie was made. Yeah. 222 00:09:40.000 --> 00:09:42.580 Because of what you just said. But that's not my question. Yeah. 223 00:09:42.799 --> 00:09:47.750 My question is, NASA denies it. They said there was 224 00:09:47.889 --> 00:09:51.129 no set. So why would they allow that film to 225 00:09:51.149 --> 00:09:51.490 be filmed? 226 00:09:51.909 --> 00:09:57.539 Yeah, I think if... In some classified archive. someone knows 227 00:09:57.580 --> 00:09:58.840 the truth. All right. 228 00:09:58.860 --> 00:10:02.139 All right. Well, that is definitely a hot take topic. Yeah. 229 00:10:02.159 --> 00:10:03.899 Desiree did good on that one. All right. 230 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:06.799 Well, let's go ahead and move on because even though 231 00:10:06.850 --> 00:10:10.669 that is super controversial, you know what else is controversial? 232 00:10:11.309 --> 00:10:12.090 Acts chapter four. 233 00:10:12.110 --> 00:10:12.429 Yeah. 234 00:10:12.450 --> 00:10:12.549 Yeah. 235 00:10:14.350 --> 00:10:16.289 I don't know about that one. Well, no, no, no, 236 00:10:16.350 --> 00:10:16.710 it is. 237 00:10:16.730 --> 00:10:19.929 Yeah. They pray for boldness, even though they're being persecuted. 238 00:10:19.960 --> 00:10:20.129 Yeah. 239 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:22.840 That's a dangerous prayer. That's pretty controversial. 240 00:10:23.240 --> 00:10:25.340 That is true. It's a stretch, but it's true. 241 00:10:25.440 --> 00:10:27.799 Okay. Well, hey, it's a bad transition. Yeah. 242 00:10:28.460 --> 00:10:32.279 So here we go. Acts chapter four, verses 23 through 31. 243 00:10:32.279 --> 00:10:35.740 And it says, as soon as they were freed, Peter 244 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:39.059 and John returned to the other believers and told them 245 00:10:39.299 --> 00:10:42.490 what the leading priests and elders had said. When they 246 00:10:42.539 --> 00:10:46.519 heard the report, all the believers lifted their voices together 247 00:10:46.580 --> 00:10:50.000 in prayers to God. O sovereign Lord, creator of heaven 248 00:10:50.039 --> 00:10:53.230 and earth, the sea and everything in them, you spoke 249 00:10:53.330 --> 00:10:56.309 long ago by the Holy Spirit through our ancestor David, 250 00:10:56.649 --> 00:11:00.870 your servant, saying, Why are the nations so angry? Why 251 00:11:00.909 --> 00:11:04.529 did they waste their time with futile plans? The kings 252 00:11:04.570 --> 00:11:07.769 of the earth prepared for battle. The rulers gathered together 253 00:11:07.870 --> 00:11:10.889 against the Lord and against his Messiah. Verse 27. In fact, 254 00:11:12.899 --> 00:11:16.799 This has happened here in this very city. For Herod Antipas, 255 00:11:17.100 --> 00:11:20.629 Pontius Pilate, the governor, the Gentiles, and the people of 256 00:11:20.789 --> 00:11:24.929 Israel were all united against Jesus, your holy servant, whom 257 00:11:24.970 --> 00:11:29.570 you anointed. But everything they did was determined beforehand according 258 00:11:29.629 --> 00:11:33.220 to your will. And now, O Lord, hear their threats 259 00:11:33.620 --> 00:11:37.679 and give us, your servants, great boldness in preaching your word. 260 00:11:38.240 --> 00:11:41.559 Stretch out your hand with healing power. May your miraculous 261 00:11:41.600 --> 00:11:44.259 signs and wonders be done through the name of your 262 00:11:44.320 --> 00:11:48.659 holy servant, Jesus. After this prayer, the meeting place shook 263 00:11:49.019 --> 00:11:51.909 and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit. Then 264 00:11:51.970 --> 00:11:56.350 they preached the word of God with boldness. Yeah, that 265 00:11:56.370 --> 00:11:56.750 was good. 266 00:11:56.769 --> 00:12:00.490 Yeah, it's really good. And the context is in chapter 267 00:12:00.549 --> 00:12:04.940 four earlier, it says Peter and John went before the council. 268 00:12:05.629 --> 00:12:08.870 So they went to the council of all the rulers 269 00:12:08.929 --> 00:12:11.509 and elders and teachers of the religious law and they 270 00:12:11.529 --> 00:12:16.029 met in Jerusalem. So they were being, you know, tried. 271 00:12:16.090 --> 00:12:20.029 They were being accused. And so they didn't back down. 272 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:20.419 Yeah. 273 00:12:20.840 --> 00:12:22.759 And so I want to read this note here in 274 00:12:22.779 --> 00:12:27.559 the Transformation Study Bible. It says, covering verses 19 through 22, 275 00:12:27.559 --> 00:12:30.480 it says, The failure of the council was evident when 276 00:12:30.519 --> 00:12:33.929 Peter refused to be intimidated by their threats. All we 277 00:12:33.990 --> 00:12:36.409 need to do is follow Peter's example to make our 278 00:12:36.429 --> 00:12:41.120 decisions on the basis of, is it right? And not, 279 00:12:41.299 --> 00:12:45.960 is it popular? Or is it safe? We must be sure, however, 280 00:12:46.519 --> 00:12:48.919 that we have clear teaching of the Word of God 281 00:12:49.039 --> 00:12:51.289 on our side before we take a stand against the 282 00:12:51.330 --> 00:12:53.789 authority of the government. Peter knew what the Lord had 283 00:12:53.830 --> 00:12:56.909 commanded believers to do in Acts 1, verse 8, for 284 00:12:56.950 --> 00:13:00.370 he was going to obey Him at any cost. And 285 00:13:00.409 --> 00:13:02.580 so I love the, I love that the idea that 286 00:13:02.620 --> 00:13:06.100 like Peter and John were accused, they stood up and 287 00:13:06.139 --> 00:13:09.580 then they, they said this prayer after they were freed, 288 00:13:10.139 --> 00:13:12.320 which is why it started by you saying, as soon 289 00:13:12.360 --> 00:13:15.139 as they were freed, right. Peter and John returned. Um, 290 00:13:16.039 --> 00:13:21.830 you know, it's interesting, uh, in our nation, uh, last weekend, uh, 291 00:13:21.870 --> 00:13:24.570 we made a statement about all the horrible things that 292 00:13:24.590 --> 00:13:27.149 were going on in our nation. And, uh, and to 293 00:13:27.169 --> 00:13:31.610 be honest with you, uh, It's always a difficult thing. 294 00:13:32.269 --> 00:13:35.990 Whenever something happens that shakes our nation to the core 295 00:13:36.009 --> 00:13:40.570 of its faith and everything else, it's like people are 296 00:13:40.809 --> 00:13:43.360 feeling a lot of different things and you want to 297 00:13:43.399 --> 00:13:45.980 address it. But at the same time, if you're a leader, 298 00:13:46.100 --> 00:13:47.980 and by the way, that doesn't just mean church leader. 299 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:50.440 It means if you're like a person on the news 300 00:13:50.580 --> 00:13:53.899 or Jimmy Kimmel, right? I mean, he's in the news 301 00:13:53.919 --> 00:13:56.139 today because of me, right? We all have to make 302 00:13:56.230 --> 00:13:58.850 choices about what we're going to say and the stand 303 00:13:58.870 --> 00:14:01.190 that we're going to take. And to be honest with you, 304 00:14:01.429 --> 00:14:04.750 it wasn't. So we made a statement at our church, 305 00:14:05.269 --> 00:14:08.700 but it wasn't political. It wasn't about right or left. 306 00:14:08.759 --> 00:14:11.519 It wasn't about what happened to our nation according to 307 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:15.840 all these arguments of agreeing or disagreeing. It wasn't about that. 308 00:14:15.940 --> 00:14:19.740 And that's one thing that I like about heritage is 309 00:14:19.799 --> 00:14:23.440 the fact that we don't take a political stance. If 310 00:14:23.500 --> 00:14:25.960 anyone wants to know what stance we take, it's that 311 00:14:25.980 --> 00:14:28.879 we believe that Jesus Christ is Lord. That's the stance 312 00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:29.519 that we take. 313 00:14:29.720 --> 00:14:33.299 And if it is a political topic, we will preach 314 00:14:33.700 --> 00:14:34.419 from the Bible. 315 00:14:34.500 --> 00:14:34.759 Yes. 316 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:36.519 And one of the things that I was always so 317 00:14:36.820 --> 00:14:40.080 impressed with is Jeff Forrester, our lead pastor, says, he goes, hey, 318 00:14:40.440 --> 00:14:43.639 he goes, instead of getting up there and using politically 319 00:14:43.730 --> 00:14:47.289 charged words, he said, those are man-made words. So why 320 00:14:47.309 --> 00:14:50.820 would I use politically charged words that everybody has their 321 00:14:50.919 --> 00:14:54.059 own interpretation of what they're gonna attach to those words. 322 00:14:54.580 --> 00:14:56.759 He says, instead, here's what I do. He goes, I 323 00:14:56.799 --> 00:14:59.779 preach on the same topic, only I use Bible words. 324 00:15:00.519 --> 00:15:02.240 And he goes, so if you ever wonder what we believe, 325 00:15:02.259 --> 00:15:05.480 he goes, you can't yell at me, because I didn't 326 00:15:05.500 --> 00:15:08.000 write it. I didn't write the Bible. He goes, I'm 327 00:15:08.019 --> 00:15:10.840 just gonna preach the Bible, use Bible words, and it 328 00:15:10.860 --> 00:15:12.740 could be the same exact topic, and I'll preach the Bible. 329 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:15.779 He goes, so there's no question of what we believe. 330 00:15:16.220 --> 00:15:19.360 So if somebody says, oh, pick a candidate, It's like, well, 331 00:15:19.399 --> 00:15:21.940 you can probably guess which candidate we're going to vote 332 00:15:21.960 --> 00:15:25.340 for based on what we have preached and what we believe, right? 333 00:15:25.559 --> 00:15:28.340 Because we're just going to preach the Bible and we're 334 00:15:28.360 --> 00:15:30.139 going to let you put two and two together because 335 00:15:30.220 --> 00:15:32.700 after all, that's what every believer is called to do anyway. 336 00:15:33.139 --> 00:15:34.899 And I didn't mean to get on a topic rant. 337 00:15:35.230 --> 00:15:37.389 In fact, that wasn't even my focus or a political rant. 338 00:15:37.789 --> 00:15:40.230 I wasn't even trying to do that. What I was 339 00:15:40.269 --> 00:15:43.309 trying to say is this. We made a statement that 340 00:15:43.350 --> 00:15:46.450 wasn't right or left or anything like that. We made 341 00:15:46.490 --> 00:15:48.980 a statement and said, it's not important about you know, 342 00:15:49.000 --> 00:15:52.539 whether you agree or disagree, the important thing is how 343 00:15:52.559 --> 00:15:58.159 do you act, interact, and react when you disagree, right? 344 00:15:58.500 --> 00:16:01.240 Because that's what Christ calls us to do. So it 345 00:16:01.259 --> 00:16:04.200 doesn't matter what the topic is. Yeah. When you disagree, 346 00:16:04.539 --> 00:16:09.639 the initiative is clear, right? This is how you should behave. Yes. 347 00:16:09.659 --> 00:16:12.330 As ladies and gentlemen, you can still disagree with somebody 348 00:16:12.409 --> 00:16:15.549 and worship them with them side by side, right? You 349 00:16:15.570 --> 00:16:18.690 don't have to have acts of violence, right? and hatred, right? 350 00:16:19.309 --> 00:16:22.590 It's like Christ calls the church to be the church 351 00:16:22.710 --> 00:16:24.950 no matter what. And that was sort of our statement 352 00:16:24.970 --> 00:16:27.250 in our prayer, right? Help us to be a nation 353 00:16:27.649 --> 00:16:30.210 that is willing to do that. Well, the idea of 354 00:16:30.289 --> 00:16:34.059 even making any kind of statement publicly, you have to 355 00:16:34.100 --> 00:16:38.139 go back to sort of this idea, which is like, 356 00:16:38.159 --> 00:16:40.659 am I going to do this? And then you have 357 00:16:40.679 --> 00:16:43.000 to ask yourself the question, is this the right thing 358 00:16:43.039 --> 00:16:45.419 to do? And is it the wrong thing to do 359 00:16:45.460 --> 00:16:49.090 to be too cowardice not to say anything? Or do 360 00:16:49.129 --> 00:16:52.029 you figure out a hard way and do the hard 361 00:16:52.129 --> 00:16:53.830 work to be able to say, no, this is the 362 00:16:53.909 --> 00:16:56.389 right thing to do. And we're going to put all 363 00:16:56.429 --> 00:16:59.129 the work into it. Dude, it took us hours to 364 00:16:59.169 --> 00:17:04.039 come up with a three minute response, hours of conversation. 365 00:17:04.599 --> 00:17:07.559 But because we felt like this is the right thing 366 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:10.940 to do. And so we want to stand on the 367 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:14.420 side of what is right. And we said what we meant. 368 00:17:15.019 --> 00:17:18.349 We didn't say anything wrong. and it wasn't charged in 369 00:17:18.430 --> 00:17:22.230 any way. We just wanna say what we feel like 370 00:17:22.269 --> 00:17:24.109 God wants us to say to the people who are 371 00:17:24.210 --> 00:17:27.000 fearful and going through a lot of different things, right? 372 00:17:27.079 --> 00:17:30.579 And it's not based on one event. I mean, there 373 00:17:30.619 --> 00:17:32.920 were things that happened in our country that go back 374 00:17:33.019 --> 00:17:36.680 a month and a half ago that are very, very disturbing. 375 00:17:37.579 --> 00:17:42.430 And people are having a really hard time, right? But 376 00:17:42.450 --> 00:17:44.609 you stand up for what is right. You do what 377 00:17:44.650 --> 00:17:44.990 is right. 378 00:17:45.690 --> 00:17:48.990 Yeah, verse 29, just to dig into that, it says, 379 00:17:49.009 --> 00:17:53.319 And now, O Lord, hear their threats and give us 380 00:17:53.380 --> 00:17:57.960 your servants great boldness in preaching your word. For some reason, 381 00:17:58.000 --> 00:18:01.319 when I read that, I think of a person at 382 00:18:01.460 --> 00:18:08.309 work in the context of Jesus not being convenient. Sometimes 383 00:18:08.410 --> 00:18:12.289 when you work out in the world, it's easier not 384 00:18:12.349 --> 00:18:15.410 to mention Jesus, not to mention that you go to work. 385 00:18:15.799 --> 00:18:20.700 to go to church, not to mention that you're in 386 00:18:20.720 --> 00:18:24.579 a small group. It's just easier sometimes in the workplace 387 00:18:24.599 --> 00:18:26.609 to kind of I think of Homer, you know that 388 00:18:26.730 --> 00:18:29.640 meme of Homer Simpson going back into the bushes? Yes. 389 00:18:29.740 --> 00:18:32.240 He just kind of... So good. Yeah. So good. 390 00:18:32.619 --> 00:18:35.240 Because it's attached to so many different things. Yeah. It's 391 00:18:35.259 --> 00:18:35.599 so good. 392 00:18:35.640 --> 00:18:38.920 But that's what it reminds me of when I read this, that, 393 00:18:39.400 --> 00:18:43.569 you know, sometimes it's easier to not say that you're 394 00:18:43.589 --> 00:18:47.150 a follower of Jesus. Like when Peter was confronted... Aren't 395 00:18:47.190 --> 00:18:50.470 you one of those followers of Jesus? No, I never 396 00:18:50.549 --> 00:18:53.039 met the man, you know, that kind of thing. So 397 00:18:53.400 --> 00:18:56.059 I think they're saying here is in times like that, 398 00:18:56.119 --> 00:18:57.180 you need to have boldness. 399 00:18:57.380 --> 00:18:57.720 That's right. 400 00:18:57.880 --> 00:19:00.380 You need to speak up. There could be someone in 401 00:19:00.420 --> 00:19:04.869