1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,930 If we are to die now, what's the value in it. 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:06,720 What's the value of this death. 3 00:00:07,620 --> 00:00:11,970 And so now through that lens, I'm judging, what's the value of how this 4 00:00:12,330 --> 00:00:14,400 potential world war three is starting. 5 00:00:14,460 --> 00:00:14,700 What's 6 00:00:14,700 --> 00:00:15,270 the value. 7 00:00:16,070 --> 00:00:19,730 Welcome to the Lucas Skrobot show I'm Lucas Skrobot. 8 00:00:19,730 --> 00:00:24,170 And this is where we uncover purpose pursue truth and own the future episode 9 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:30,230 274, we are recording a March 16th, 2022. 10 00:00:30,530 --> 00:00:34,010 And the only thing that anyone has been talking about, I guess 11 00:00:34,010 --> 00:00:37,130 if you're U S American pundant, you're going to be talking about 12 00:00:37,130 --> 00:00:39,200 ridiculous U S American politics. 13 00:00:39,590 --> 00:00:43,640 But the only thing that the world is really focused on is the 14 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:44,990 beginnings of world war three. 15 00:00:45,410 --> 00:00:49,520 And so we have the world's most leading geopolitical expert on 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,000 the show today, Mike Nova mayhem. 17 00:00:54,690 --> 00:00:56,190 Welcome to the show. 18 00:00:56,550 --> 00:00:57,240 Oh, 19 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,240 uh, it's good to be alive. 20 00:01:00,300 --> 00:01:06,540 I just have to say, I, for those of you who are listening, you can't see, uh, Mike 21 00:01:06,540 --> 00:01:12,300 is wearing a shirt, filled with flags, and that's how I know that he is the 22 00:01:12,300 --> 00:01:18,390 world's foremost, leading geopolitical, Slavic, uh, Eastern European expert, 23 00:01:19,620 --> 00:01:21,570 actually actually to be truthful. 24 00:01:23,220 --> 00:01:27,750 Uh we're we're taking all that geopolitical garbage and we're 25 00:01:27,750 --> 00:01:29,100 shoving it in the trash today. 26 00:01:29,100 --> 00:01:29,370 Aren't we? 27 00:01:29,370 --> 00:01:29,640 Mike? 28 00:01:31,380 --> 00:01:31,950 Yes. 29 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:32,700 Yeah. 30 00:01:33,450 --> 00:01:34,230 Or as some stuff. 31 00:01:35,070 --> 00:01:37,350 Outside of the Christian world Putin's bomb. 32 00:01:38,460 --> 00:01:43,920 But we can't say that on that show that that's, this is a kid-friendly show. 33 00:01:45,210 --> 00:01:47,250 I'm not, I'm not saying that I'm saying that. 34 00:01:47,490 --> 00:01:48,210 I was just saying that. 35 00:01:49,020 --> 00:01:49,320 Yes. 36 00:01:49,350 --> 00:01:51,120 If you were to say it well. 37 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:51,360 Okay. 38 00:01:51,370 --> 00:01:58,770 So, so, so the reason that we're going to queue this up here, the reason that Mike 39 00:01:58,770 --> 00:02:02,400 is on the show is because he is a refugee. 40 00:02:03,030 --> 00:02:08,610 He is Slavic half Russian, half Ukrainian family on both sides. 41 00:02:08,820 --> 00:02:13,800 He is an entrepreneur with business ventures, not only in the states, 42 00:02:14,100 --> 00:02:20,130 but in Ukraine, in Russia, he has connections through millionaires 43 00:02:20,130 --> 00:02:24,690 and billionaires across the world, especially in the Slavic nations. 44 00:02:26,399 --> 00:02:33,239 He left Ukraine just days before he was living there for a while, long story, 45 00:02:33,510 --> 00:02:35,970 but he left Ukraine just days before. 46 00:02:35,970 --> 00:02:36,630 Isn't that right? 47 00:02:37,230 --> 00:02:45,000 And, uh, you have been ferocious on social media, uh, really just too muddy, cutting 48 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:50,280 it right down the middle, not dealing with the ridiculous crap on either side. 49 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,680 So, Mike, I'm just glad that you're here on the show. 50 00:02:54,209 --> 00:02:55,829 A hundred percent, a hundred percent. 51 00:02:56,489 --> 00:02:57,660 Thank you for adding me, Lucas. 52 00:02:57,660 --> 00:02:58,140 You're the best. 53 00:02:58,470 --> 00:02:58,769 Just 54 00:02:59,209 --> 00:03:04,680 to cue this a little bit up a little bit more for listeners tell, I want 55 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,970 to know what have you done, you know, your background, your refugee 56 00:03:08,970 --> 00:03:15,299 story, just to get a context of why, why, you know, what's going on? 57 00:03:15,299 --> 00:03:18,750 Why are you an expert on what's happening right now in Ukraine 58 00:03:18,780 --> 00:03:20,310 besides just being a internet? 59 00:03:22,489 --> 00:03:25,760 Absolutely by the, um, there's experts that are better than 60 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,019 me, but I'm not far off. 61 00:03:27,380 --> 00:03:32,120 Um, so I appreciate you saying that I will, uh, chase that word 62 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,079 down with honor the word expert. 63 00:03:36,590 --> 00:03:43,880 Um, uh, 1992, uh, shortly after the iron curtain comes down. 64 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,700 Um, my parents were refugees from Russia. 65 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,620 I'm a baby, like two and a half years old. 66 00:03:48,620 --> 00:03:52,760 I don't remember it much, you know, um, growing up in the states, you 67 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,060 know, I'm like five years old, I go to school and I'm like, why are these 68 00:03:56,060 --> 00:03:57,799 people speaking as weird language? 69 00:03:57,799 --> 00:04:01,399 It was English, you know, I'm like, there's clearly no way out for me. 70 00:04:01,399 --> 00:04:05,120 Like I clearly am here and my parents were bringing me here every day. 71 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,490 So I must learn this language English, you know? 72 00:04:08,359 --> 00:04:14,450 So, um, you know, and then that like mix of like, where am I, what 73 00:04:14,450 --> 00:04:18,810 am I doing, blah, blah, blah has pretty much kind of driven my whole. 74 00:04:19,830 --> 00:04:21,480 Um, whatever I've done. 75 00:04:21,540 --> 00:04:21,960 Yeah. 76 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:26,790 In business, like in school, uh, wherever I would take, you 77 00:04:26,790 --> 00:04:28,380 know, go to university, whatever. 78 00:04:28,860 --> 00:04:35,340 Um, you know, I always felt, um, pretty comfortable with 79 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,100 providing things for people. 80 00:04:38,100 --> 00:04:40,320 And if I needed money for life, I would sell them. 81 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,480 You know, I felt comfortable doing that. 82 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,890 It's probably some of the most comfortable things I feel like doing ever, you know? 83 00:04:47,370 --> 00:04:54,360 Uh, and so, uh, I mean, bro, bottom star, you know, like bottom line, I'm a sales 84 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:58,410 guy, like since seven years old selling hamsters in front of a seven 11, for real, 85 00:04:58,410 --> 00:04:59,820 like my youth pastor would make fun of me. 86 00:04:59,830 --> 00:05:03,630 Say, say your training is in rodent sales in front of the sun 87 00:05:03,630 --> 00:05:04,560 loving when you're seven years old. 88 00:05:05,100 --> 00:05:07,950 So like maybe on my personality, that's a bit of a background, but on 89 00:05:07,950 --> 00:05:12,930 like a fit, you know, more official history for rough Russian refugees. 90 00:05:13,030 --> 00:05:15,570 Um, I had a chance. 91 00:05:15,870 --> 00:05:22,020 I went into passive income from my dealership, like about few years ago and 92 00:05:22,020 --> 00:05:23,460 I'm like, listen, what am I going to do? 93 00:05:23,460 --> 00:05:26,130 Am I going to sit around in the, like, wherever I'm at? 94 00:05:26,310 --> 00:05:26,700 You know? 95 00:05:27,150 --> 00:05:31,830 And just like, just do whatever, you know, or like keep working on crappy 96 00:05:31,830 --> 00:05:35,340 songs that I know aren't going to make it to the top 100 by myself. 97 00:05:35,370 --> 00:05:36,090 I need a team. 98 00:05:36,090 --> 00:05:36,930 I don't have a team. 99 00:05:37,020 --> 00:05:43,750 You know, what am I as like a, you know, what's, I thought you said something 100 00:05:43,750 --> 00:05:48,500 about, uh, you know, like whatever. 101 00:05:48,620 --> 00:05:53,900 Uh, so, uh, I took the passive income and I went to just go 102 00:05:53,900 --> 00:05:54,890 and live across the world. 103 00:05:54,890 --> 00:05:58,909 That's how we met Dubai when we met yeah. 104 00:05:58,909 --> 00:05:59,600 A few years ago. 105 00:06:00,169 --> 00:06:03,650 Uh, Dubai, you know, took a little time to study Italy a little 106 00:06:03,650 --> 00:06:05,780 bit, lived in Rome and Naples. 107 00:06:06,260 --> 00:06:09,770 Um, in Berlin, I lived in Berlin for a little bit. 108 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:15,270 Uh, so before this point, before this point, you weren't really reconnecting 109 00:06:15,270 --> 00:06:17,130 with your, your Slavic roots. 110 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,170 Uh, only those that were in the states. 111 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:25,219 And I felt like there was something more, I felt like, like in my spirit, you know, 112 00:06:25,219 --> 00:06:29,120 because we're all, you know, we're all busy, you know, you got your roots baker, 113 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,039 you're building, you know, business. 114 00:06:31,039 --> 00:06:34,880 You're an entrepreneur, you've got kids, you got a wife, like you're busy, 115 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,640 you know, we're all busy, so to speak. 116 00:06:38,150 --> 00:06:41,900 But man, dude, like I felt like, dude, there's something pulling me. 117 00:06:41,900 --> 00:06:44,750 Like, there's something else that I'm missing. 118 00:06:45,110 --> 00:06:47,990 And I w I just want to feel it, you know, like I want to see it. 119 00:06:47,990 --> 00:06:48,200 Yeah. 120 00:06:48,590 --> 00:06:53,480 And, uh, a couple of relatives of mine from Seattle, uh, some 121 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:58,590 entrepreneurs as well, um, They, uh, I would say their name. 122 00:06:58,590 --> 00:07:00,960 I just such a weird political time right now, like saying 123 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,580 people's names during war time. 124 00:07:05,430 --> 00:07:07,140 Rightly about it, DME or something. 125 00:07:07,140 --> 00:07:13,020 I'll tell you who they are and they, yes, but Lana and Paula. 126 00:07:13,020 --> 00:07:13,260 Yeah. 127 00:07:13,260 --> 00:07:18,360 They're, you know, they were, I won't say her last name, but they were, uh, 128 00:07:19,830 --> 00:07:24,450 uh, they, they were a huge blessing to a group of us and they gave us like 129 00:07:24,450 --> 00:07:29,039 the confidence because they funded an organization that took a bunch of Slavic 130 00:07:29,039 --> 00:07:32,610 kids that were raised here and then took them into the Slavic world over there. 131 00:07:33,310 --> 00:07:36,719 After I got tasted that that's right after I flew to Dubai, I met you. 132 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:41,340 Um, then I went to Ukraine, sang on a tour with a buddy of mine from 133 00:07:41,340 --> 00:07:43,320 Atlanta here, but he's from Ukraine. 134 00:07:43,919 --> 00:07:47,669 Uh, they're trying to get like 30, 30 of his family members out refugees right now. 135 00:07:48,210 --> 00:07:51,229 Um, you know, whatever did the whole thing. 136 00:07:52,380 --> 00:07:55,620 Trying to get as much of the world in me as possible study, like international 137 00:07:55,620 --> 00:07:57,240 relations while I'm actually there. 138 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,990 Like, oh, I didn't know that it's illegal to say, Hey, Hitler in Germany. 139 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:05,160 I didn't know that it's illegal to not wear a swastika in Germany. 140 00:08:05,190 --> 00:08:08,310 Like, I mean, it's clear, it makes sense, but I just didn't know stuff like that. 141 00:08:08,310 --> 00:08:10,620 And I want it to cause that's, what's gonna happen in Russia. 142 00:08:10,700 --> 00:08:11,310 My opinion. 143 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:17,400 I'm going to pause you on this because there's so often I have to look 144 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,570 like when I'm producing for a show, I have to look up that stuff too. 145 00:08:22,020 --> 00:08:26,850 I think a lot of people feel when I, when I discuss with a lot of people, 146 00:08:26,850 --> 00:08:29,100 they feel like they're stupid. 147 00:08:29,100 --> 00:08:30,150 They feel like they're dumb. 148 00:08:30,150 --> 00:08:31,710 They feel like they're uneducated. 149 00:08:32,070 --> 00:08:37,049 And then they get embarrassed to ask questions and they put themselves 150 00:08:37,049 --> 00:08:40,500 down thinking, you know, people always say to me, oh, you're just so smart. 151 00:08:40,500 --> 00:08:42,570 You're way smarter than I am all this stuff. 152 00:08:42,570 --> 00:08:45,570 I'm like, well, all I did was read and research. 153 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:51,150 Just like you, you didn't know these things about Europe or Slavic. 154 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,890 Uh, even though those were your roots, you had to figure that out. 155 00:08:55,890 --> 00:09:01,680 And I just want to bring that up because it's, it's important that we 156 00:09:02,190 --> 00:09:07,620 ask questions and realize that most other adults in the world probably 157 00:09:07,620 --> 00:09:13,710 don't know, you know, probably don't know that the countries that comprise 158 00:09:13,710 --> 00:09:17,100 NATO, they don't know, you know, what is 159 00:09:17,110 --> 00:09:19,020 data there's about 30 of them. 160 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,020 What is the, that kind of stuff? 161 00:09:21,860 --> 00:09:23,870 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 162 00:09:23,870 --> 00:09:28,940 You know, and, uh, and to be honest, bro, like, uh, I knew you, you know, you 163 00:09:28,940 --> 00:09:32,600 hear it, but when it's war time, that's when you really start researching it. 164 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,910 And I was like, starting to research and read all the countries. 165 00:09:34,910 --> 00:09:36,410 I'm like, okay, how many countries right here? 166 00:09:36,650 --> 00:09:37,280 Which ones? 167 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,700 What's, they're all surrounding Ukraine by. 168 00:09:40,995 --> 00:09:46,575 You know, this whole thing about Russia, trying to be afraid that 169 00:09:46,755 --> 00:09:48,075 Ukraine is going to be a NATO. 170 00:09:48,495 --> 00:09:51,495 And I dunno, man, I'm still keeping it on a lease, bro. 171 00:09:51,495 --> 00:09:54,855 If I'm speaking too much on the rest of the culture for real, no, this is 172 00:09:55,245 --> 00:09:55,425 good. 173 00:09:55,425 --> 00:09:59,925 Cause this is where, you know, when we think of people just don't know 174 00:10:00,735 --> 00:10:04,245 I'm I, I like to play my Slav card. 175 00:10:04,845 --> 00:10:07,695 You know, I'm half Polish square. 176 00:10:07,695 --> 00:10:11,325 Backi I love to pull on my Slavic heritage. 177 00:10:11,835 --> 00:10:16,665 I don't know it though, but when, when we're looking at this conflict, this 178 00:10:16,695 --> 00:10:21,195 current conflict between Russia and Ukraine, and it seems like it's really 179 00:10:21,195 --> 00:10:24,615 Russia and NATO, it's very confusing. 180 00:10:25,005 --> 00:10:31,905 What are some of these underlying Eastern European Slavic history 181 00:10:32,325 --> 00:10:33,565 that we don't understand? 182 00:10:33,645 --> 00:10:38,565 You know, I, myself and I think a lot of other people think of Russia and Russians. 183 00:10:39,555 --> 00:10:44,925 Part of Europe, not necessarily, you know, this other people group over in Asia. 184 00:10:45,555 --> 00:10:51,465 Uh, how can you, can you just open up and break down in a simple way? 185 00:10:52,275 --> 00:10:57,465 What is the Slavic contextual history and why is there so much 186 00:10:57,495 --> 00:11:00,105 tension that's now boiling over? 187 00:11:02,515 --> 00:11:06,655 Well, I can go a few ways with this and I would like to, so just keep again, you 188 00:11:06,655 --> 00:11:08,785 know, just interrupt me when you're ready. 189 00:11:08,815 --> 00:11:09,295 You know what I mean? 190 00:11:09,745 --> 00:11:10,315 But, uh, 191 00:11:13,525 --> 00:11:17,995 we clearly know that there is, uh, a man at the throne in Russia. 192 00:11:18,505 --> 00:11:20,365 Every the world does know that that's a fact. 193 00:11:20,395 --> 00:11:24,835 Everyone can agree with that, that there is somebody in media 194 00:11:24,835 --> 00:11:26,755 that's, that's showing his face. 195 00:11:27,175 --> 00:11:27,535 Okay. 196 00:11:28,255 --> 00:11:36,790 Um, we know that this man, I mean, let's, uh, Let's let, let me just say this man. 197 00:11:37,330 --> 00:11:39,400 Have you ever heard of about the Napoleon complex? 198 00:11:39,910 --> 00:11:40,270 Yeah. 199 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:42,580 And people in 200 00:11:42,580 --> 00:11:45,190 complex Napoleon Napoleon complex. 201 00:11:45,580 --> 00:11:46,630 I'm a, I'm a dude. 202 00:11:46,630 --> 00:11:49,870 That's five 10 when I'm around guys that are six, five. 203 00:11:50,260 --> 00:11:51,280 I feel inferior. 204 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:51,940 Lower, sorry. 205 00:11:51,970 --> 00:11:52,140 Right. 206 00:11:52,150 --> 00:11:52,530 Inferior. 207 00:11:52,530 --> 00:11:53,180 Right, right. 208 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:54,340 Word inferior. 209 00:11:54,580 --> 00:11:56,320 I feel smaller guys. 210 00:11:56,320 --> 00:12:02,320 There are five, four or five, seven feel even smaller when they have 5,000 nuclear 211 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,520 bombs, then they're probably going to be a little more prone to be a little more 212 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,190 Jabie in, in this case, world war three. 213 00:12:09,340 --> 00:12:13,230 Uh it's like the guy who is small event buys a massive truck. 214 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,070 Cause he's trying to compensate for something. 215 00:12:16,570 --> 00:12:19,630 Yeah, we got it. 216 00:12:23,290 --> 00:12:23,650 Okay. 217 00:12:23,740 --> 00:12:28,810 So there's, there's a hypothetical ruler of a nation called Russia. 218 00:12:29,140 --> 00:12:30,310 Putin is his name 219 00:12:32,020 --> 00:12:32,830 hypothetically. 220 00:12:39,135 --> 00:12:44,595 So how so, but how does that play into the, the tensions amongst Slavic people? 221 00:12:45,075 --> 00:12:48,915 Like what is the, the history that is boiling over right now? 222 00:12:50,895 --> 00:12:51,315 Yeah. 223 00:12:51,675 --> 00:12:55,605 Um, and by the way, I really appreciate you being really careful with the lag 224 00:12:55,635 --> 00:12:57,915 cause we're in different countries and I notice a lag and you're being really 225 00:12:57,915 --> 00:12:59,895 patient with how we space the sentences. 226 00:12:59,895 --> 00:13:03,135 So props to you on that, back to your question, brother. 227 00:13:03,705 --> 00:13:10,035 Um, Slavic nations, there's, there's a lot of them, right. 228 00:13:10,515 --> 00:13:12,045 There's dozens of them, right. 229 00:13:12,045 --> 00:13:14,325 Or heritages languages, stuff like that. 230 00:13:14,955 --> 00:13:25,335 Um, and one of the two closest and, um, most kind of that rubbed shoulders, 231 00:13:25,335 --> 00:13:27,855 so to speak are Russia and Ukraine. 232 00:13:28,365 --> 00:13:33,165 Um, now, uh, I was taught. 233 00:13:33,225 --> 00:13:35,625 I was talking to the people on the ground. 234 00:13:35,655 --> 00:13:36,165 Mostly. 235 00:13:36,585 --> 00:13:40,935 I, you know, I didn't ha I hung a little bit with all like, like an 236 00:13:40,935 --> 00:13:45,975 oligarchy or two, like, heard about the stories of how they're, you know, 237 00:13:45,975 --> 00:13:48,645 buying 200,000 euros worth of red wine. 238 00:13:48,645 --> 00:13:52,215 So their girlfriend can bathe in it, like whatever cool. 239 00:13:52,215 --> 00:13:54,195 You know, like interesting. 240 00:13:54,365 --> 00:13:55,155 I get it. 241 00:13:55,155 --> 00:13:57,825 But like, I dunno how that applies to what I'm doing, you know what I mean? 242 00:13:58,365 --> 00:14:04,545 Um, and you know, uh, people on the ground in Ukraine like pastors, 243 00:14:04,935 --> 00:14:10,935 uh, you know, nine to five business owners, entrepreneurs, uh, it's the 244 00:14:10,935 --> 00:14:14,055 guys that aren't part of the 0.01%. 245 00:14:14,115 --> 00:14:14,625 You know what I mean? 246 00:14:15,225 --> 00:14:22,275 They are proud that they can go out in public and Ukraine and say, say 247 00:14:22,275 --> 00:14:26,955 that, Hey, in case they have a bad president, they have, they know that 248 00:14:26,955 --> 00:14:28,965 they won't be shot or arrested or. 249 00:14:29,925 --> 00:14:34,485 On on the street for saying that that's when I, when I was there, 250 00:14:34,485 --> 00:14:37,185 that's the vibe I got off of everybody. 251 00:14:37,395 --> 00:14:43,755 So every comment, every, every common or every normal, you know, run to the 252 00:14:43,755 --> 00:14:50,084 middle person, who's not the, the ruling elite are just glad that they have the 253 00:14:50,084 --> 00:14:51,675 freedom to disagree with their government. 254 00:14:53,725 --> 00:14:55,464 Honestly, even the ruling elite. 255 00:14:55,495 --> 00:14:56,064 I mean, yeah. 256 00:14:56,094 --> 00:15:00,415 They, you know, we're walking around like, you know, in their group, like there's 257 00:15:00,415 --> 00:15:05,125 body guards or whatever, whatever they got a button for, like emergency services that 258 00:15:05,125 --> 00:15:08,875 like some crazy team comes in to scoop amount and something that goes down, you 259 00:15:08,875 --> 00:15:13,824 know, but like, uh, they're, they're good. 260 00:15:14,005 --> 00:15:14,485 They're good. 261 00:15:14,515 --> 00:15:16,885 They're not, they don't feel weird. 262 00:15:17,425 --> 00:15:18,235 They've made okay. 263 00:15:18,245 --> 00:15:20,964 Maybe one is a little, seems a little cocky. 264 00:15:20,964 --> 00:15:23,964 Maybe somebody seems a little poor, maybe so, but they're all pretty 265 00:15:23,964 --> 00:15:25,974 balanced out as humans outset. 266 00:15:27,015 --> 00:15:31,994 When, when you talk to people about that, I have like, especially like I 267 00:15:31,994 --> 00:15:35,685 talked to a pastor that I stayed at, they actually invited me to come stay at a 268 00:15:35,685 --> 00:15:38,175 couple of surgeries in, uh, in Ukraine. 269 00:15:38,714 --> 00:15:41,505 And they invited me to come recover at their house and like 270 00:15:41,505 --> 00:15:42,795 serve at their church, you know? 271 00:15:43,635 --> 00:15:46,545 Uh, and it was such a pleasure. 272 00:15:46,545 --> 00:15:51,165 And, you know, the pastor in his just like calm tone, you know, 273 00:15:51,175 --> 00:15:53,564 just full, full patients' mode. 274 00:15:53,984 --> 00:15:58,545 He's like, man, we know, we know that people are suppressed over there. 275 00:15:59,025 --> 00:16:01,484 There's the freedom of speech is just not there. 276 00:16:01,785 --> 00:16:08,564 We would rather be poor and have freedoms, then be probably still poor 277 00:16:08,864 --> 00:16:12,194 and have to look up to some dude that's a tyrant that the whole world looks at. 278 00:16:12,194 --> 00:16:13,454 Like what's going on? 279 00:16:13,785 --> 00:16:19,185 You know, So they're really kind of fighting for that, between these two. 280 00:16:19,185 --> 00:16:21,104 I mean, that's, there's bro. 281 00:16:21,165 --> 00:16:27,045 I've had so many conversations with Ukrainians Russians, uh, relative to 282 00:16:27,045 --> 00:16:32,415 view, and I was born in the USSR, but now it's the territory that dangerous. 283 00:16:32,444 --> 00:16:35,055 That's actually a little bit dangerous to a PO podcasts 284 00:16:35,055 --> 00:16:36,584 like this to some Ukrainians. 285 00:16:36,584 --> 00:16:38,864 Like I have I'm on a VPN every day. 286 00:16:39,255 --> 00:16:41,025 I'm looking kind of looking just left to right. 287 00:16:41,025 --> 00:16:44,834 Just in case, especially if I go back anywhere in Russia or Ukraine 288 00:16:44,834 --> 00:16:47,025 again, which I will, you know, 289 00:16:47,625 --> 00:16:48,795 uh, why is that? 290 00:16:48,935 --> 00:16:49,844 Why is it, why would that be? 291 00:16:50,055 --> 00:16:53,535 Why is that dangerous to say that you were born in the USSR and 292 00:16:53,535 --> 00:16:55,365 now it's the now it's Russia. 293 00:16:55,395 --> 00:16:58,305 Why, how has that, why is that controversial? 294 00:16:59,885 --> 00:17:04,385 Well, simply because I was raised, which a lot of people in Ukraine, millions 295 00:17:04,385 --> 00:17:09,575 of people in this 40 million people in the crane, um, a few, a few million, 296 00:17:10,625 --> 00:17:12,694 pretty much fundamentally speaking. 297 00:17:14,010 --> 00:17:14,280 Right. 298 00:17:14,310 --> 00:17:16,710 So it's kind of dangerous for them a little bit in that sense, because if 299 00:17:16,710 --> 00:17:20,280 you rubs, if somebody rubbed the wrong way with the Russian language, the pay 300 00:17:20,460 --> 00:17:23,370 patriotism, it could really get you. 301 00:17:23,730 --> 00:17:26,460 It can really snap you that you will, you can get into a 302 00:17:26,460 --> 00:17:27,870 fight on the street over that. 303 00:17:28,140 --> 00:17:32,100 And was that before, was that before this war even started, that there was already 304 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,470 bad blood between Ukrainians and Russians? 305 00:17:34,470 --> 00:17:39,480 Or is it now since the war started, there's a lot of tensions between 306 00:17:39,990 --> 00:17:41,880 Ukrainians and Russians taking sides 307 00:17:45,700 --> 00:17:47,430 because of the annexation of Crimea. 308 00:17:47,910 --> 00:17:51,450 But, uh, it wasn't like crazy. 309 00:17:51,750 --> 00:17:53,760 Now it's better. 310 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,850 If you just speak Ukrainian Ukraine, right. 311 00:17:56,625 --> 00:17:58,785 'cause it's like, Joe, is he a spy? 312 00:17:58,845 --> 00:18:01,995 Is he a, you know, is he a what, you know? 313 00:18:01,995 --> 00:18:06,255 Um, and I'm just, I'm just, my dad was born in Ukraine and Dunbar, you know, 314 00:18:06,255 --> 00:18:12,765 where there, we bombed everything in 2014 or, you know, whatnot and, you know, 315 00:18:12,795 --> 00:18:17,175 uh, I just have to be careful because I know that I'm acting out a good day. 316 00:18:17,925 --> 00:18:21,885 And so I just have to look out for my wellbeing in a sense, and 317 00:18:21,885 --> 00:18:25,725 help as many people as possible set as much money as possible, uh, 318 00:18:25,785 --> 00:18:27,405 communicate as much as possible. 319 00:18:27,435 --> 00:18:31,905 Just be, be a shoulder if someone needs, needs it and, and build businesses in 320 00:18:31,905 --> 00:18:35,985 the state that are going to affect, not just Ukraine, uh, but then the rest of 321 00:18:35,985 --> 00:18:39,825 the world, because there's some really talented engineers that I've met there. 322 00:18:39,825 --> 00:18:43,725 There's some really talented people there, and they're all going to work 323 00:18:43,725 --> 00:18:48,945 for $500 a month to build some of the greatest companies in the world right now. 324 00:18:50,235 --> 00:18:51,375 So if you're like an entrepreneur. 325 00:18:53,120 --> 00:18:56,629 Let's let's chat or go chat, go do, go do your own work. 326 00:18:56,629 --> 00:18:58,370 Cause so if you were to trying to build, 327 00:18:59,510 --> 00:19:04,340 so I, I guess, you know, when we, when we bring it back to the current 328 00:19:04,340 --> 00:19:12,350 conflict, you sound like, even though you are born in Russia, Russian by 329 00:19:12,350 --> 00:19:19,290 blood speak, Russian, not originally Ukrainian, you seem to be pretty 330 00:19:20,610 --> 00:19:27,960 But right now there are a lot of people who I see who are in one or 331 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:33,570 two stance, one, they are either kind of anti globalist data. 332 00:19:34,335 --> 00:19:41,295 Maybe dabbling a little bit in, you know, bio lab theory and Putin is actually, 333 00:19:41,535 --> 00:19:48,585 uh, you know, just a misrepresented, good guy by the leftist CNN MSNBC media. 334 00:19:48,795 --> 00:19:54,525 And he's actually the, the resurrection of Donald Trump and he's going in and 335 00:19:54,525 --> 00:20:03,165 he's emptying the swamp of, of deep state politician neo-Nazis in Ukraine. 336 00:20:03,885 --> 00:20:11,435 And we should just let that be because their argument is actually, this is, this 337 00:20:11,435 --> 00:20:16,665 is a good thing because it's going against the globalist, um, alphabet agenda. 338 00:20:17,625 --> 00:20:21,375 But you don't seem to be of that thought. 339 00:20:23,605 --> 00:20:30,295 No, not at all because I try, I, when I am in really tough moments in my life, 340 00:20:31,335 --> 00:20:38,505 Um, I, first thing that I'm asking for for this life is wisdom a hundred percent. 341 00:20:38,805 --> 00:20:43,395 I'm not asking for a specific interpretation of 342 00:20:43,395 --> 00:20:45,765 what any precedent insane. 343 00:20:45,795 --> 00:20:50,685 I'm asking for wisdom, because I want to understand what that person 344 00:20:50,685 --> 00:20:56,295 is saying, what they're doing, how they're acting, what they're doing and 345 00:20:56,295 --> 00:21:00,255 their actions, how they're matching up with their words, what their body 346 00:21:00,255 --> 00:21:02,415 language is, what are they eating? 347 00:21:02,805 --> 00:21:07,245 What are they, what, what is, what do they look like? 348 00:21:07,275 --> 00:21:09,105 How much makeup is on them, stuff like this. 349 00:21:09,105 --> 00:21:13,755 Like whatever I want logically to think of whether I should trust this person or not. 350 00:21:14,445 --> 00:21:16,245 And I 100. 351 00:21:17,190 --> 00:21:18,630 A hundred percent put my life on it. 352 00:21:18,930 --> 00:21:20,640 Do not trust this guy for a second. 353 00:21:21,180 --> 00:21:22,110 Do I trust Lucas? 354 00:21:22,110 --> 00:21:24,780 Groba who runs his podcast hundred percent. 355 00:21:25,140 --> 00:21:26,220 Do I trust this man? 356 00:21:26,220 --> 00:21:32,700 That's that's got a ton of ton of ton of balm for the world, by the way. 357 00:21:33,510 --> 00:21:40,200 Uh, and he's saying some things that I've researched very thoroughly and I've seen 358 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:44,220 my neighborhood where I was restoring from brain surgery and McCann and a 359 00:21:44,220 --> 00:21:49,410 mechanical surgery apartment building, like dream, dream penthouse that I wanted 360 00:21:49,650 --> 00:21:53,070 to have that I was like, you know what, usually I give money everywhere else. 361 00:21:53,250 --> 00:21:56,670 This time, I'll just, I'll just rent a penthouse for three months on a, 362 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:01,440 on a sky level view above Kia rockets and missiles through a brother. 363 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:02,310 You know what I mean? 364 00:22:02,580 --> 00:22:06,740 The house where I was being restored in like physically with the, with 365 00:22:06,740 --> 00:22:12,720 the pastors dead bodies on the street, walks away dozens of meters 366 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,610 away, which is a hundred feet. 367 00:22:15,899 --> 00:22:18,610 200, 300, 405, everything dead bodies, dead bodies, dead 368 00:22:18,620 --> 00:22:20,280 bodies, tanks burned down tanks. 369 00:22:20,310 --> 00:22:21,149 Z's on them. 370 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:26,010 I'm talking about like, so I know what's happening on the ground. 371 00:22:27,129 --> 00:22:30,360 I've been with the elite and Ukraine personally, I'm talking about 372 00:22:30,360 --> 00:22:33,659 the people with the most money handshake away from the president. 373 00:22:33,990 --> 00:22:38,399 Zelensky because he was an actor before I'm on a flight from Atlanta. 374 00:22:38,490 --> 00:22:39,240 Thank God. 375 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:44,730 This, this guy, uh, that hit me up on top of our government calling me, you 376 00:22:44,730 --> 00:22:49,649 know, from the federal level, they call it called people that submitted their 377 00:22:49,649 --> 00:22:53,879 information online and they call us personally after all the news and all 378 00:22:53,919 --> 00:22:57,450 the detentions at friends, been friends like, yo, get out, get out, get out. 379 00:22:58,090 --> 00:23:01,800 And I'm like, I had, I was timing the surgery because I 380 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:02,610 was like, all right, buh-bye. 381 00:23:03,435 --> 00:23:08,145 And this guy comes into to my life that I knew, like, so he used to work 382 00:23:08,145 --> 00:23:11,265 with the project, but when the Alaska was an actor, he used to work with 383 00:23:11,265 --> 00:23:15,015 them, you know, uh, with our businesses and stuff, they would hire him out. 384 00:23:15,555 --> 00:23:21,345 And, uh, you know, he showed me photos on the plane of the lens, like the 385 00:23:21,345 --> 00:23:25,635 president, his confidential stuff that they can't release now, but they 386 00:23:25,635 --> 00:23:29,325 have NDAs on, but I see visually I'm like, dude, I've been with the elite. 387 00:23:29,355 --> 00:23:36,855 I've been with the broken and the poor and not one person is a Nazi, not 388 00:23:36,855 --> 00:23:39,765 one person is they're normal people. 389 00:23:40,095 --> 00:23:42,585 They're just like the people in the United States, just like the people 390 00:23:42,585 --> 00:23:48,285 I saw in Dubai, just like you and me, everything there is a little bit, 391 00:23:48,345 --> 00:23:51,225 there is a, there is a perversion. 392 00:23:53,054 --> 00:23:55,425 From whoever the aggressor is. 393 00:23:55,425 --> 00:23:56,804 I don't care what his name is. 394 00:23:56,804 --> 00:23:59,084 I don't care what swastika they have. 395 00:23:59,445 --> 00:24:00,165 I don't care. 396 00:24:00,495 --> 00:24:03,735 There is a perversion it's 100% I put my 397 00:24:03,735 --> 00:24:04,215 life on it. 398 00:24:04,425 --> 00:24:04,725 All right. 399 00:24:04,725 --> 00:24:06,284 So I understand that. 400 00:24:06,675 --> 00:24:13,274 And then where I, where I also, you know, the arguments, the 401 00:24:13,274 --> 00:24:18,314 arguments also are coming in and I've seen you deal with this. 402 00:24:18,405 --> 00:24:26,695 And so I'm asking you, it seems as though the world is going to be pulled 403 00:24:26,695 --> 00:24:32,125 into world war three, it seems as though NATO increasingly is getting involved. 404 00:24:32,725 --> 00:24:38,514 It seems as though, uh Zalinsky who a lot of people criticize as. 405 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:45,419 You know, continuing being an actor hired by the globalist elite to push 406 00:24:45,419 --> 00:24:47,490 forward a globalist elitist agenda. 407 00:24:48,270 --> 00:24:51,780 And that it's just a, it's just a stage and a show to pull the 408 00:24:51,780 --> 00:24:54,480 world into world war three. 409 00:24:56,250 --> 00:25:00,780 And, you know, that's kind of the stuff that people say. 410 00:25:00,780 --> 00:25:04,409 I don't know, Salinsky I have zero idea, but those are the 411 00:25:04,409 --> 00:25:05,700 arguments that people are making. 412 00:25:05,700 --> 00:25:10,139 You know, they show that video back when in 96 or whatever, when 413 00:25:10,139 --> 00:25:14,280 he was a dancer and people say, oh, look, so is not a great guy. 414 00:25:14,940 --> 00:25:18,750 It seems to me, I guess my point is, it seems to me that this whole thing 415 00:25:18,750 --> 00:25:20,490 is just propaganda on both sides. 416 00:25:21,899 --> 00:25:24,330 That there's, there's propaganda all the way through. 417 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:31,889 And I'm curious because I'm curious because if NATO is pulled 418 00:25:31,889 --> 00:25:35,760 into this, what are the effects. 419 00:25:36,705 --> 00:25:40,335 And it seems like there's this, all this geopolitical nonsense that's going on. 420 00:25:40,335 --> 00:25:45,105 That I'm not smart enough to understand, but what you're saying is, okay. 421 00:25:45,284 --> 00:25:46,215 Yeah, that's great. 422 00:25:46,544 --> 00:25:50,715 But people are, are dying on the ground and you're calling for peace. 423 00:25:50,955 --> 00:25:54,135 But my question is, how can you have peace if the only way that you can have 424 00:25:54,135 --> 00:25:59,804 peace is by throwing the world into world war three, because this leader 425 00:25:59,804 --> 00:26:04,425 of the nation of Russia, you're saying has an informed inferiority complex. 426 00:26:04,425 --> 00:26:06,885 And if he's going to lose, he's going to start. 427 00:26:07,215 --> 00:26:10,544 A lot of people worry that he might start using biological, 428 00:26:10,544 --> 00:26:12,314 chemical or nuclear weapons. 429 00:26:16,784 --> 00:26:22,020 Ah, man, um, right now brother, when I look at our government, the United 430 00:26:22,020 --> 00:26:29,205 States, which is the largest threat to, you know, the Federation, that's 431 00:26:29,215 --> 00:26:33,774 being the aggressor right now, you know, are the government here in the U S. 432 00:26:38,655 --> 00:26:47,024 I'm praying for the people that are the advisers to a sleepy president. 433 00:26:47,985 --> 00:26:53,865 Um, I'm praying for the people that have influenced there and have 434 00:26:56,925 --> 00:27:03,885 on or for life and understand the sacredness of life and death and how 435 00:27:03,885 --> 00:27:12,254 scary, how very, very scary it is to come close to death, which I would 436 00:27:12,254 --> 00:27:17,834 know personally, once you were in that position, even when you're fighting 437 00:27:17,834 --> 00:27:25,395 somebody, which you might have to in life, you might have to fight somebody, but you 438 00:27:25,395 --> 00:27:30,195 want it to be the guy that still has love for that person after the fight, even if. 439 00:27:32,195 --> 00:27:34,385 Even if you lose, you want to be that guy. 440 00:27:34,925 --> 00:27:36,425 That's a good, that's a good man. 441 00:27:36,695 --> 00:27:37,475 That's a good dude. 442 00:27:38,254 --> 00:27:38,824 Um, 443 00:27:44,165 --> 00:27:50,524 do, are you asking me specifically if asked, what would happen if a world war 444 00:27:50,675 --> 00:27:55,955 three or what the, what the consequences might be what's happening or if it will 445 00:27:55,955 --> 00:27:59,044 happen or, you know, stuff like this? 446 00:27:59,205 --> 00:27:59,475 Yeah, 447 00:27:59,475 --> 00:28:00,284 that's a great question. 448 00:28:00,495 --> 00:28:05,385 I think, I think really what I'm getting at is that it seems like 449 00:28:05,385 --> 00:28:06,915 this is a lose, lose situation. 450 00:28:08,385 --> 00:28:12,135 It seems that Russia invading, 451 00:28:15,155 --> 00:28:17,945 how, how does, how does this, obviously we're, maybe we're getting 452 00:28:17,945 --> 00:28:20,735 too deep into geopolitical stuff, but how does that deescalate? 453 00:28:21,814 --> 00:28:24,455 How does that deescalate NATO gets pulled in? 454 00:28:24,875 --> 00:28:26,105 It just continues to grow. 455 00:28:27,735 --> 00:28:30,255 And who's, who's paying the cost of that. 456 00:28:30,255 --> 00:28:34,815 Who's the one, the people who are actually suffering from that. 457 00:28:34,845 --> 00:28:41,955 And you, you know, you talked about just now, I need to have love, love 458 00:28:42,255 --> 00:28:49,975 in your heart for, for your enemy, or you need to have, you know, at 459 00:28:49,975 --> 00:28:52,735 the end of the day, you need to have love in your heart for your enemy. 460 00:28:53,845 --> 00:29:02,035 Otherwise, you know, you're just as evil and corrupt as them, but 461 00:29:02,725 --> 00:29:06,655 you've been trying to tow the line on social media and trying to split the 462 00:29:06,655 --> 00:29:09,565 center of saying, Hey, I love Russia. 463 00:29:09,565 --> 00:29:10,615 I love my Russian roots. 464 00:29:10,615 --> 00:29:11,395 I love Ukraine. 465 00:29:11,425 --> 00:29:15,145 I love my, you know, Ukrainian relationships and family. 466 00:29:16,075 --> 00:29:22,105 And you're, you're trying to say, okay, geopolitical stuff aside, here's 467 00:29:22,105 --> 00:29:25,375 the people who are suffering is that. 468 00:29:28,375 --> 00:29:30,925 A hundred percent, hundred percent. 469 00:29:30,955 --> 00:29:34,495 I even started a nonprofit, got a bunch of donations already. 470 00:29:34,915 --> 00:29:38,635 And the motto straight up across the board is decreased suffering. 471 00:29:38,995 --> 00:29:42,595 Wherever the next conflict is decrease, suffering, wherever 472 00:29:42,595 --> 00:29:44,425 the next issue is decreased. 473 00:29:44,455 --> 00:29:48,085 If fits in your life, decrease suffering, let's figure it 474 00:29:48,085 --> 00:29:50,005 out, balance this thing out. 475 00:29:50,365 --> 00:29:52,405 You know, let's go because, uh, 476 00:29:55,655 --> 00:29:58,355 can I tell you something about, uh, getting hit by this car 477 00:29:58,355 --> 00:29:59,795 and kids four months ago? 478 00:30:01,025 --> 00:30:01,625 Can I tell you something? 479 00:30:02,765 --> 00:30:03,185 What happened? 480 00:30:03,215 --> 00:30:05,255 I blacked out for a very, for a bit. 481 00:30:05,585 --> 00:30:07,175 I'm not going to tell you, I don't need to say much. 482 00:30:07,175 --> 00:30:10,055 I don't think to get the point across, but 483 00:30:16,985 --> 00:30:18,185 I thought I was depressed. 484 00:30:18,605 --> 00:30:21,815 I thought I had suicidal thoughts before I thought that I did. 485 00:30:24,044 --> 00:30:28,274 But when I, when I blacked out for the longest time in my entire life and woke 486 00:30:28,274 --> 00:30:32,355 up with a massive Eva Toma in my head in a shattered school shattered jaw shattered 487 00:30:32,445 --> 00:30:37,635 collarbone with two dudes, trying to take me away from the ambulance that hit 488 00:30:37,635 --> 00:30:42,615 me, then later hit the car away from the police, have arrest records on their name. 489 00:30:42,855 --> 00:30:48,855 This war is kind of saving there, but honestly, I'm so happy that I have a 490 00:30:48,855 --> 00:30:54,254 chance to sit here and talk to you on this podcast about something in going on 491 00:30:54,254 --> 00:30:56,685 in the world, including let's be real. 492 00:30:56,685 --> 00:30:57,764 We got some amazing hair. 493 00:30:58,004 --> 00:30:58,365 Okay. 494 00:30:58,905 --> 00:30:59,655 Let's be real here. 495 00:31:00,195 --> 00:31:07,034 Uh, but can't believe I just said that, uh, there's, there's massive problems 496 00:31:07,034 --> 00:31:08,504 going on in the world, regardless. 497 00:31:08,745 --> 00:31:09,824 I'm just attached to this. 498 00:31:09,824 --> 00:31:14,865 That's why I was able to speak out maybe a lot or tow align or this and that. 499 00:31:16,094 --> 00:31:19,844 But, um, you want to. 500 00:31:21,260 --> 00:31:27,770 You want to be able to the blackout, the blackout when there's nothing there and 501 00:31:27,770 --> 00:31:32,659 you can't feel God anymore, whatever it was for me, I couldn't feel anything. 502 00:31:32,659 --> 00:31:34,189 It was just zero. 503 00:31:35,149 --> 00:31:38,240 I was reduced to zero because I was not, I was not conscious. 504 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,139 I was not blah, blah, blah. 505 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:45,860 And it was, and then my body starts coming back and that's when my respect for the 506 00:31:45,860 --> 00:31:51,139 creator goes up a hundred, a million fold. 507 00:31:51,860 --> 00:31:56,300 And that's when I realized, I said, listen, if we are to die, 508 00:31:56,300 --> 00:31:58,790 now, what's the value in it. 509 00:32:00,110 --> 00:32:01,580 What's the value of this debt. 510 00:32:02,449 --> 00:32:06,830 And so now through that lens, I'm judging, what's the value of how this 511 00:32:07,159 --> 00:32:09,260 potential world war three is starting. 512 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:10,490 What's the value here? 513 00:32:10,879 --> 00:32:11,899 How valuable is it? 514 00:32:11,929 --> 00:32:13,490 Does it look valuable on both. 515 00:32:19,584 --> 00:32:22,524 Most people want this thing to not, not want to talk about it. 516 00:32:22,705 --> 00:32:27,054 We would rather talk about how Dubai is building the next amazing building, 517 00:32:27,595 --> 00:32:31,794 how, whatever whatever's happening somewhere else and all this and here 518 00:32:31,794 --> 00:32:34,074 where y'all looking at this stuff and it's starting starts to gets kind 519 00:32:34,074 --> 00:32:37,284 of, it's not, you know what I mean? 520 00:32:38,014 --> 00:32:38,635 You know what you mean? 521 00:32:40,375 --> 00:32:40,705 Yeah. 522 00:32:41,514 --> 00:32:42,895 Uh, it's it's 523 00:32:42,895 --> 00:32:45,895 that it's, it's hard for us. 524 00:32:45,985 --> 00:32:49,645 I think, I think we're finally getting to the core of the core of this year. 525 00:32:49,645 --> 00:32:53,304 It's hard for us to look at death and suffering. 526 00:32:55,415 --> 00:32:55,715 Yeah, 527 00:32:56,465 --> 00:32:59,415 yeah, yeah. 528 00:32:59,715 --> 00:33:01,695 And it's natural and it's natural. 529 00:33:02,235 --> 00:33:08,564 And I don't see that there's some people, there's some people 530 00:33:08,564 --> 00:33:10,695 that are in media, in government. 531 00:33:11,850 --> 00:33:14,340 Maybe have lost people. 532 00:33:14,340 --> 00:33:15,840 We all have lost something. 533 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:17,490 That's not fun. 534 00:33:17,670 --> 00:33:22,260 Now imagine that being someone you love or yourself, then you start 535 00:33:22,260 --> 00:33:23,790 looking at it through a different lens. 536 00:33:23,790 --> 00:33:25,080 You say what's the value. 537 00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:27,390 And yet everything's relative. 538 00:33:27,420 --> 00:33:30,840 This is in a bunker in the Russian Federation sitting in, 539 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,490 and this is valuable to him. 540 00:33:36,670 --> 00:33:40,390 If we would not be P built to change people's minds, then 541 00:33:40,390 --> 00:33:41,590 what kind of people would be be. 542 00:33:42,610 --> 00:33:44,410 So we, we are here to affect change. 543 00:33:44,410 --> 00:33:44,680 Yeah. 544 00:33:44,740 --> 00:33:46,570 And we're either going to do, we're going to do it. 545 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,630 We're going to do it for better or for worse. 546 00:33:49,630 --> 00:33:53,350 So where our logic steps in, that's where the understanding 547 00:33:53,350 --> 00:33:54,880 steps in that we have to use. 548 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,190 And we have to say, okay, so what are we gonna do? 549 00:33:57,190 --> 00:33:58,150 What are we going to say? 550 00:33:58,330 --> 00:33:58,750 You know? 551 00:33:59,250 --> 00:33:59,500 Yeah. 552 00:33:59,500 --> 00:34:01,930 Some of it, maybe we came off controversial. 553 00:34:02,070 --> 00:34:04,330 We're sorry if you're offended. 554 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:04,960 Sorry. 555 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,139 But if somebody is offended, I apologize. 556 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:09,550 And if. 557 00:34:10,889 --> 00:34:12,060 Still aggressing. 558 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,340 I leave, I go and be changed somewhere else. 559 00:34:15,179 --> 00:34:18,420 You know, like there's no point in staying in, fighting for 560 00:34:18,420 --> 00:34:19,739 something that's not valuable. 561 00:34:21,060 --> 00:34:22,409 What's the point in fighting for it. 562 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:28,800 If it's not insanely excellently valuable, how valuable is this? 563 00:34:29,580 --> 00:34:30,509 Explain it to them. 564 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,259 You can't because it's hard to explain. 565 00:34:35,190 --> 00:34:38,159 And only one guy tries to do it in this world and he's not 566 00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:39,270 doing that great of a job. 567 00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:43,409 He's he's got stutter, stutter steps in his speech. 568 00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:45,870 He's got hands that he can't keep together. 569 00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:47,400 He's got this going on. 570 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:52,320 He's got 25 women around him, like a chic bro. 571 00:34:52,500 --> 00:34:53,880 You're not in the UAE. 572 00:34:53,909 --> 00:34:54,690 You're in Russia. 573 00:34:54,900 --> 00:34:57,509 You, you were praying with the Catholic church. 574 00:34:57,509 --> 00:34:58,770 We believe in marriage there. 575 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,290 One one-to-one we don't believe in 17 women in a room with, you 576 00:35:04,980 --> 00:35:07,245 know, What's the point of that. 577 00:35:07,425 --> 00:35:10,595 You're another flex in another part of your project. 578 00:35:11,505 --> 00:35:11,955 Not it. 579 00:35:12,405 --> 00:35:14,115 How special is that? 580 00:35:14,925 --> 00:35:17,895 You know that the Ukrainian on the other side. 581 00:35:17,925 --> 00:35:18,345 Okay. 582 00:35:18,375 --> 00:35:24,705 Let's say whatever, let's take some shots, you know, be more passionate. 583 00:35:25,275 --> 00:35:26,505 I want to see some tears. 584 00:35:26,625 --> 00:35:30,915 I cried from the states on Instagram and felt like a weak man. 585 00:35:31,905 --> 00:35:36,735 I want to see some emotion from you if you're really who you say you are. 586 00:35:37,335 --> 00:35:42,345 You know, so we, I mean, I'm passionate obviously about the subject, 587 00:35:42,345 --> 00:35:46,125 bro, because I'm in love with the culture and I'm in love with life. 588 00:35:46,695 --> 00:35:51,735 So in love with it, and I wasn't for 30 years probably for give or 589 00:35:51,735 --> 00:35:53,115 take, I was, I was a happy kid. 590 00:35:53,115 --> 00:35:57,675 My parents were off, you know, but for a long time, I didn't 591 00:35:57,675 --> 00:35:59,925 have an insane love for life. 592 00:35:59,985 --> 00:36:01,965 And I'm really appreciate that right now. 593 00:36:02,325 --> 00:36:04,265 And I want to see that, especially for me. 594 00:36:05,725 --> 00:36:11,395 And I expect it from myself and yeah, not everybody needs to come close to death. 595 00:36:11,755 --> 00:36:12,205 Sure. 596 00:36:12,625 --> 00:36:20,275 No, but should we sit and maybe agree and maybe show things in our media 597 00:36:20,275 --> 00:36:23,305 that we put out, like you're putting out with you, like you're putting 598 00:36:23,305 --> 00:36:30,725 out, should we show something that's really to the core and exposes, so we 599 00:36:30,725 --> 00:36:35,464 know what the root system looks like, because what if you really got big? 600 00:36:35,495 --> 00:36:36,415 Why are you scared? 601 00:36:38,585 --> 00:36:38,825 Right. 602 00:36:40,075 --> 00:36:43,855 So, so I've been in the previous couple of episodes talking about 603 00:36:44,185 --> 00:36:48,565 not coming to agreement with the spirit of war and really in thinking 604 00:36:48,565 --> 00:36:55,464 through the complexities of, of defending your Homeland against war. 605 00:36:56,605 --> 00:36:57,085 Um, 606 00:37:00,865 --> 00:37:03,895 and you know, you've, you've sent, you've sent over. 607 00:37:05,340 --> 00:37:13,260 Just atrocious, atrocious images of, uh, see if I can pull it up here. 608 00:37:15,660 --> 00:37:18,120 Uh, just horrible images 609 00:37:21,220 --> 00:37:27,700 of what's happening there with the war what's happening with people 610 00:37:28,270 --> 00:37:30,580 just being put into mass graves. 611 00:37:31,870 --> 00:37:37,100 Uh, really just shocking images, 612 00:37:40,130 --> 00:37:43,730 no mass graves. 613 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:48,920 We see images of cities being bombed out. 614 00:37:49,430 --> 00:37:55,520 Just totally bombed out flames, apartment buildings, just being 615 00:37:56,060 --> 00:37:59,720 totally, totally, completely decimated. 616 00:38:04,170 --> 00:38:11,790 You know, you sent over videos of, of, uh, you know, some of your friends 617 00:38:12,299 --> 00:38:19,200 walking into buildings that have been completely bombed out showing 618 00:38:19,410 --> 00:38:23,040 the carnage, the carnage of war, 619 00:38:24,660 --> 00:38:25,080 uh, 620 00:38:27,509 --> 00:38:31,529 of, of, of this assault that has come on on Ukraine. 621 00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:36,570 And there's, as you said, like what's the value, is it, is it more valuable 622 00:38:36,570 --> 00:38:43,710 to preserve your life and not stand up to evil tyrants to not stand up 623 00:38:43,710 --> 00:38:48,570 and just say, you know what, it's more valuable to, to just let these tanks 624 00:38:48,570 --> 00:38:50,759 roll in and set up a puppet government? 625 00:38:51,660 --> 00:38:58,770 Or is it, is it more valuable to fight for your freedoms? 626 00:38:59,610 --> 00:39:01,080 Um, is it more valuable to. 627 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:11,140 The stand in and fight for what you believe in, in the midst of being bond. 628 00:39:14,330 --> 00:39:14,720 Yeah. 629 00:39:20,420 --> 00:39:20,630 And what 630 00:39:20,630 --> 00:39:21,050 do you think? 631 00:39:21,050 --> 00:39:24,290 How, how do you, how do you, you know, you're talking about the passion 632 00:39:24,770 --> 00:39:31,610 and love of a fly and you're talking about, uh, the importance of life, 633 00:39:35,210 --> 00:39:37,580 how do you, how do you rectify those two things? 634 00:39:37,790 --> 00:39:43,010 How do you rectify the, okay, well, we're, we're going to turn around and 635 00:39:43,550 --> 00:39:48,080 hate on Russia because they're being an aggressor, but you see the, you know, 636 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,640 18 year old kids going to fight these wars who thought they're going on? 637 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:53,780 Training operations. 638 00:39:55,700 --> 00:39:56,030 Yeah. 639 00:40:05,545 --> 00:40:07,165 I love what you said, puppet government. 640 00:40:07,165 --> 00:40:13,165 These are like big, big, big, like, you know, strong, like a strong statement 641 00:40:13,255 --> 00:40:16,345 in a sense for any government, um, 642 00:40:22,555 --> 00:40:23,785 when we're out of balance. 643 00:40:24,385 --> 00:40:24,625 Yeah. 644 00:40:24,925 --> 00:40:28,375 Well, I guess in the, and then the, the act it's funny, both sides are 645 00:40:28,375 --> 00:40:37,015 accusing the same thing because Russia is accusing Salinsky to be a puppet 646 00:40:37,015 --> 00:40:42,355 organization for the west and NATO and the west and NATO and Salinsky 647 00:40:42,355 --> 00:40:47,365 is accusing Putin of trying to come in and set up a puppet organization. 648 00:40:47,455 --> 00:40:53,905 And so it's, it just seems like this is an impossible situation where no one can win. 649 00:40:54,445 --> 00:40:57,265 How, how do you then love your enemy? 650 00:40:58,185 --> 00:41:00,915 How do you then carry yourself, right? 651 00:41:00,915 --> 00:41:03,045 Because you and I, we're not going to, we're going to have, I'm going 652 00:41:03,045 --> 00:41:04,575 to affect geopolitical anything. 653 00:41:04,575 --> 00:41:07,995 We're not going to make a dent, even if we know what the most 654 00:41:07,995 --> 00:41:12,585 powerful people, I don't quite don't say that quite yet, because like, I mean, 655 00:41:13,185 --> 00:41:17,384 you know, literally the president of Ukraine might be watching this podcast. 656 00:41:17,384 --> 00:41:21,855 I'm not joking just based on me sending it to three people that 657 00:41:21,855 --> 00:41:29,115 are near him, you know, like they might maybe later, anytime is good. 658 00:41:29,565 --> 00:41:30,255 How do you win? 659 00:41:30,705 --> 00:41:33,705 How do you win in the face of the loss of life? 660 00:41:33,705 --> 00:41:42,525 How do you win in, in realizing that it is a, that the world is on thin ice of 661 00:41:42,525 --> 00:41:46,485 slipping into really the next world war. 662 00:41:47,115 --> 00:41:49,935 How do you win from that point as a governmental leader? 663 00:41:50,745 --> 00:41:52,125 How do you win a Zelinsky? 664 00:41:52,365 --> 00:41:56,985 How do you, how do you, how do you deescalate when you're balancing. 665 00:41:58,005 --> 00:42:05,025 Either giving up the freedoms that your country has to tyranny or possibly 666 00:42:05,205 --> 00:42:12,315 losing tens of thousands and millions of lives in a coming world war. 667 00:42:13,855 --> 00:42:14,245 Yeah. 668 00:42:15,205 --> 00:42:15,685 Um, 669 00:42:19,525 --> 00:42:25,145 there have to be risk takers, whoever that's going to be, God's 670 00:42:25,145 --> 00:42:27,935 going to praise them and God's going to glorify those people. 671 00:42:28,985 --> 00:42:30,605 They are not always presidents. 672 00:42:31,835 --> 00:42:36,725 They're not always people that you expect, but then they show up after they've 673 00:42:36,725 --> 00:42:40,685 done what they've done after they've meditated and let God do it through them. 674 00:42:40,685 --> 00:42:43,415 In a sense, I don't want to get too religious either. 675 00:42:43,445 --> 00:42:47,225 You know, for people that are listening to this with their logical side, you 676 00:42:47,225 --> 00:42:50,315 know, but you know what I'm talking about. 677 00:42:54,990 --> 00:43:00,180 There has to be the S like, there's you and I, we grew up around, you know, these, 678 00:43:00,870 --> 00:43:07,110 these, uh, figures in human history, like this girl, Esther that went and 679 00:43:07,110 --> 00:43:10,470 risked her life to save her people. 680 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:13,259 That's how you're going to do it. 681 00:43:13,770 --> 00:43:15,569 Don't do, don't make a dumb risk. 682 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,580 Don't go play at the casino. 683 00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:21,299 You know, you know, you're going to lose, you know, and even if you do, 684 00:43:21,299 --> 00:43:24,750 when you're going to be annoyed, you know, because you had put so much 685 00:43:24,779 --> 00:43:29,310 effort into it for what, for paper, for, for like money that you could've 686 00:43:29,310 --> 00:43:30,540 made somewhere else and been happier. 687 00:43:31,020 --> 00:43:31,410 Okay. 688 00:43:31,799 --> 00:43:39,420 So that's take the risks, but analyze how you're going to do it 689 00:43:39,839 --> 00:43:44,640 and let the spirit that's in you. 690 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:46,770 That's wholly do it. 691 00:43:48,060 --> 00:43:48,470 Take those. 692 00:43:51,319 --> 00:43:53,569 You know, and that's how, because there's no other way. 693 00:43:54,500 --> 00:43:57,620 It's like, it's like when you're hungry, there's no other weather. 694 00:43:57,859 --> 00:44:02,419 There's no other way to eat, but to go and find food, it's 695 00:44:02,419 --> 00:44:04,189 not, it doesn't just come to us. 696 00:44:04,879 --> 00:44:09,560 And if it does, we get fat and lazy and we get unhappy and all this 697 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,060 stuff, we got to take the risks. 698 00:44:11,060 --> 00:44:12,620 We got to get up from the chair. 699 00:44:12,890 --> 00:44:16,220 We gotta be done with whatever we were doing. 700 00:44:16,250 --> 00:44:18,290 We gotta go, we gotta go find the fruit. 701 00:44:18,290 --> 00:44:18,859 We gotta go. 702 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:19,970 Make sure it's clean. 703 00:44:19,970 --> 00:44:21,140 It doesn't have bacteria on it. 704 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:22,220 We're always taking risks. 705 00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:25,729 So we got to calculate these things that are on a major level, 706 00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:28,850 especially on a world level, you know? 707 00:44:29,149 --> 00:44:30,680 And that's why I'm blowing the horn. 708 00:44:30,740 --> 00:44:34,250 I've done things on my Instagram that I wouldn't, I wouldn't 709 00:44:34,250 --> 00:44:39,140 have even imagined doing or set things, but I thought it through. 710 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,819 And I said, I want to draw as much attention to this as possible. 711 00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:48,439 Even if it looks like it's coming from a back around some way that even. 712 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:54,900 I would never say in a church or at a, you know, into a microphone 713 00:44:56,100 --> 00:44:57,870 on a stage, you know what I mean? 714 00:44:58,290 --> 00:45:02,400 So I'm like, this is, you know, this is my stage that I really want the 715 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,420 real ones to just get and be like, okay, it's really going down for real. 716 00:45:06,450 --> 00:45:10,470 There's absolutely no room for error because there's going to be error. 717 00:45:10,830 --> 00:45:15,150 Even when we're risking, there's going to be air, but we need to make sure that 718 00:45:15,150 --> 00:45:20,250 we minimize it to the point where we feel good about the air that's coming. 719 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,170 Because most of the time we don't. 720 00:45:22,590 --> 00:45:22,980 Yeah, that 721 00:45:23,070 --> 00:45:27,000 was, as you're talking, thinking about multiple stories from world 722 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:31,080 war II, about Victor Frankl, who wrote man's search for meaning and 723 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,150 how he was in a concentration camp. 724 00:45:33,150 --> 00:45:36,600 And he was stripped of everything, stripped of everything in the end, he 725 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:43,950 realized the depravity of his humanity and how he found how to find purpose. 726 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:50,050 Outside of all of his accolades or his, his titles or of his clothes or 727 00:45:50,050 --> 00:45:56,050 what he did, or his past life had to find purpose and he had to take risk. 728 00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:01,570 And it was in the midst of that suffering that he figured out how to live. 729 00:46:02,050 --> 00:46:07,420 Uh, you know, you think of all these stories of, of world war two, uh, 730 00:46:08,140 --> 00:46:14,590 of, uh, Schindler and how he, you know, took risks to save thousands 731 00:46:14,590 --> 00:46:16,630 of Jews from the gas chamber. 732 00:46:17,020 --> 00:46:19,120 Quite literally, because he was a businessman. 733 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:25,000 He, I, I think of, I forgot the gentleman's name, but he 734 00:46:25,150 --> 00:46:33,820 took risks to smuggle hundreds, hundreds of children out from. 735 00:46:34,965 --> 00:46:41,055 To the UK, never called anyone about it until he's old and gray 736 00:46:41,085 --> 00:46:45,705 and his wife or his niece or something finds in the addict. 737 00:46:45,735 --> 00:46:51,165 All these records of how many people that he saved and the, they pulled him 738 00:46:51,555 --> 00:46:58,785 and the generations that he saved into room and they, they called them up and 739 00:46:58,785 --> 00:47:03,495 they said, these are all people that are alive because you took a risk because 740 00:47:03,495 --> 00:47:05,565 you stood up and you did something. 741 00:47:05,565 --> 00:47:10,665 This is what we talk about on this show about owning the future about stepping 742 00:47:10,665 --> 00:47:17,924 up and taking a risk that could, that could actually cost you something, not 743 00:47:17,924 --> 00:47:23,865 just for your own self centered purpose, but to actually to serve someone else. 744 00:47:23,884 --> 00:47:30,075 I want to, I want to transition to, you know, if people are been following 745 00:47:30,075 --> 00:47:33,345 this, they want to know how and where. 746 00:47:34,685 --> 00:47:41,435 To give they, they, they see the human cost of Ukrainian citizens 747 00:47:42,365 --> 00:47:45,695 who are the one paint new is paying the price for this war. 748 00:47:46,085 --> 00:47:48,455 Whoever started it for whatever reasons. 749 00:47:48,605 --> 00:47:49,535 It doesn't matter. 750 00:47:49,985 --> 00:47:56,345 What matters is, is who is truly an ultimately paying the price in the cost. 751 00:47:57,065 --> 00:47:58,415 Can you, uh, tell us 752 00:48:01,565 --> 00:48:04,565 how people can give to this project? 753 00:48:04,625 --> 00:48:11,255 How can people give through whether it's through your NGO or whatever it's through, 754 00:48:11,255 --> 00:48:14,345 how can we tangibly make an impact? 755 00:48:16,355 --> 00:48:17,045 Absolutely. 756 00:48:17,615 --> 00:48:23,585 Um, most of the people in the world are not extremely well. 757 00:48:24,695 --> 00:48:27,905 Um, so if you can give a dollar, that's perfect. 758 00:48:27,965 --> 00:48:28,465 If you can give. 759 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:30,330 That's perfect. 760 00:48:30,450 --> 00:48:31,950 If you can give 10 as perfect. 761 00:48:31,950 --> 00:48:33,570 If you can give a thousand, that's perfect. 762 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:34,500 You can give a million. 763 00:48:34,530 --> 00:48:35,130 That's perfect. 764 00:48:36,060 --> 00:48:39,060 Um, and if you can't give 765 00:48:44,530 --> 00:48:47,710 obviously prey, you know, and 766 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,950 what initially, what initiatives, what initiatives do you have going on right now 767 00:48:53,950 --> 00:48:57,940 there that people can tangibly pour into? 768 00:49:00,490 --> 00:49:04,570 Um, so the photos that you're showing here, these are orphans. 769 00:49:04,570 --> 00:49:07,750 These are babies that were evacuated from an orphanage that was bombed. 770 00:49:07,780 --> 00:49:09,070 They were trapped in a basement. 771 00:49:09,150 --> 00:49:11,680 My friends, my good friends. 772 00:49:11,860 --> 00:49:14,620 I've in vehicle with the orphan foundation. 773 00:49:14,950 --> 00:49:19,840 Uh, the link is in my Instagram bio, uh, at Mike Nova music. 774 00:49:20,380 --> 00:49:20,590 Yeah. 775 00:49:20,590 --> 00:49:20,800 There. 776 00:49:20,830 --> 00:49:21,700 Oh yeah, you haven't tagged. 777 00:49:21,730 --> 00:49:22,660 Thank you so much for this. 778 00:49:24,134 --> 00:49:25,725 If you want to give there, do it. 779 00:49:25,755 --> 00:49:29,055 If you feel comfortable giving somewhere else, I'm not fighting charity versus 780 00:49:29,055 --> 00:49:32,535 charity, just make sure that you feel comfortable doing it and they 781 00:49:32,535 --> 00:49:34,095 amount is comfortable for you too. 782 00:49:34,665 --> 00:49:35,235 You know what I mean? 783 00:49:36,045 --> 00:49:38,985 Um, don't, you know, 784 00:49:41,445 --> 00:49:42,375 what's on your heart. 785 00:49:42,884 --> 00:49:43,305 Yeah. 786 00:49:43,605 --> 00:49:48,884 Don't give out of guilt, but give generously and, and yeah. 787 00:49:48,915 --> 00:49:49,875 Give generously. 788 00:49:51,285 --> 00:49:51,705 Yeah. 789 00:49:51,735 --> 00:49:52,035 Yeah. 790 00:49:52,065 --> 00:49:56,985 And for some people it's, it's, it's a dollar and for some people 3000, for some 791 00:49:56,985 --> 00:49:58,995 people, it's a million and guess what? 792 00:49:59,415 --> 00:50:03,105 It's going to evaporate like this because each one of those bombs that 793 00:50:03,105 --> 00:50:05,775 you see exploding, that's 50 million. 794 00:50:05,775 --> 00:50:08,865 That's just down the drain, 50 million bucks, 50 million bucks. 795 00:50:09,195 --> 00:50:11,325 How many bombs were launched already rockets, almost a 796 00:50:11,325 --> 00:50:14,795 thousand, just rockets, you know? 797 00:50:15,095 --> 00:50:16,475 So there's. 798 00:50:19,785 --> 00:50:20,355 Yeah. 799 00:50:20,475 --> 00:50:23,115 Give, just get it out of the goodness of your heart. 800 00:50:23,145 --> 00:50:27,255 Don't don't give to, to feel guilty later if you're going to give do it. 801 00:50:27,255 --> 00:50:29,535 And if you find a charity that you can trust, do it, you 802 00:50:29,535 --> 00:50:31,485 know, um, these orphans, man. 803 00:50:31,815 --> 00:50:35,865 Oh man, dude, I have like, especially out of this, like out of this 804 00:50:35,865 --> 00:50:40,335 position that I'm saying like it's, uh, these kids are so cute, man. 805 00:50:40,335 --> 00:50:45,825 These blue eyes, these little baby faces, like, I'm just like, yo, I won't, I'm 806 00:50:45,825 --> 00:50:50,325 not a father, but I'm, I'm about to be like trying to adopt one of these kids. 807 00:50:50,325 --> 00:50:50,835 You know what I mean? 808 00:50:51,225 --> 00:50:51,795 But, uh, 809 00:50:52,395 --> 00:50:55,035 so this is, so this is the guy right here. 810 00:50:55,035 --> 00:50:56,174 This is Ivan. 811 00:50:56,174 --> 00:50:56,685 Is that right? 812 00:50:56,895 --> 00:51:04,365 He's the one that is going in and saving these orphans, moving them to 813 00:51:04,365 --> 00:51:08,325 safe shelters, safe houses, pulling them out of basements, arranging 814 00:51:08,325 --> 00:51:10,335 transport, getting them to safety, 815 00:51:11,924 --> 00:51:13,125 amazing people. 816 00:51:13,424 --> 00:51:15,855 Again, 10 years ago I met Ivan. 817 00:51:15,855 --> 00:51:17,295 The son that's either on the phone. 818 00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:22,680 Senior and junior, and he is out there like literally 819 00:51:22,830 --> 00:51:24,960 however old, I think he's 70. 820 00:51:25,410 --> 00:51:31,800 Uh, and he's literally out there just plowing through evil, like straight up, 821 00:51:31,860 --> 00:51:35,910 you know, and cause he's connected, he's connected spiritually to the country. 822 00:51:35,910 --> 00:51:37,260 That's his Homeland, you know? 823 00:51:37,710 --> 00:51:42,660 Um, these people have been doing this for 10 years before any annexation of Crimea. 824 00:51:43,230 --> 00:51:46,170 Uh, these are the avoids they're from Portland, Oregon. 825 00:51:46,590 --> 00:51:49,470 And uh, like shout out wise. 826 00:51:49,470 --> 00:51:49,770 Yeah. 827 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,800 Or if it's linking to my bio DME or something, if you have questions 828 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,820 about them, but they, they are amazing people and I've done this. 829 00:51:56,940 --> 00:52:01,860 They're great in money, you know, they're, they've, they're funding a lot of stuff 830 00:52:01,860 --> 00:52:06,780 themselves, like to the point where they, you know, they're stressed like and th 831 00:52:06,940 --> 00:52:10,980 and you know, the kind of stress that they hopefully can take on, I think. 832 00:52:11,490 --> 00:52:14,940 But, uh, I'm supposed to meet him today, actually here in, uh, 833 00:52:16,410 --> 00:52:20,160 Um, the junior, not, not senior. 834 00:52:20,940 --> 00:52:23,460 Uh, so I kinda plugged his name there a couple of times. 835 00:52:23,460 --> 00:52:24,690 I just want to make them feel special. 836 00:52:24,690 --> 00:52:28,110 All, I'll take a step out of this saying their names and you've done that. 837 00:52:28,110 --> 00:52:30,510 And they're going to, they're probably going to cry though, but, 838 00:52:30,570 --> 00:52:33,300 uh, you know, it just it's special. 839 00:52:33,690 --> 00:52:38,940 Um, and, and LA, we, we have to do it in love. 840 00:52:38,940 --> 00:52:43,380 If somebody is not ready to give, if somebody is not ready to convert 841 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,290 to have a conversation to do that, we should leave them alone. 842 00:52:46,470 --> 00:52:49,560 You know, we should let him be because let, let him deal with, 843 00:52:50,090 --> 00:52:51,600 with what they've got going on. 844 00:52:51,660 --> 00:52:55,140 You know, show him, love that way, give them peace, give him space. 845 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,570 You know, some people aren't ready to be talking about this. 846 00:52:58,080 --> 00:52:58,560 You know what I mean? 847 00:52:58,890 --> 00:53:05,640 Uh, so people are, you know, and we, we, again, just like we take risks 848 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,430 in a conversation like you and me are taking risks today, just being 849 00:53:08,430 --> 00:53:12,884 on this podcast, you know, W we calculate that and we say, all right, 850 00:53:13,064 --> 00:53:14,294 I think God's going to bless us. 851 00:53:14,475 --> 00:53:16,785 I think this is not my ego or whatnot. 852 00:53:16,814 --> 00:53:19,634 And we moved that way and everything. 853 00:53:19,634 --> 00:53:24,855 So, I mean, yeah, I hope I answered, you know, as far as the giving and charitable 854 00:53:24,855 --> 00:53:29,654 stuff, um, there's plenty of places vet them that the, well, make sure they 855 00:53:29,654 --> 00:53:34,154 have that a long history, um, you know, and make sure that they don't seem to. 856 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:41,340 Well guys, this, as you all know, this is a value for value podcast. 857 00:53:41,340 --> 00:53:45,000 If you get value out of the show, we just ask that you give value back 858 00:53:45,030 --> 00:53:48,510 to the show in the measure that you got it, that you took out of it. 859 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:56,610 And today, if, if you give through the podcast or if you go to the link that 860 00:53:56,610 --> 00:54:03,090 is in the bio to give directly through to, um, this orphan organization that 861 00:54:03,090 --> 00:54:08,010 they're saving orphans, um, either way that you give, if you make a note, if, 862 00:54:08,130 --> 00:54:12,990 if you're giving to the podcast, um, through, through that, if you make a 863 00:54:12,990 --> 00:54:18,360 note of the Ukraine, a hundred percent of the proceeds is going to go to this 864 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:25,050 project in this organization, uh, you know, orphans and widows it's, it is what 865 00:54:25,050 --> 00:54:29,670 it's about is really doing the real work. 866 00:54:29,670 --> 00:54:33,750 I don't pitch this hard on a show, uh, but this guys, I believe in. 867 00:54:34,845 --> 00:54:42,345 If we can help a few people who are outside of whatever geopolitical nonsense 868 00:54:42,645 --> 00:54:47,265 is going on outside of whatever bombs are dropping and who's right and who's 869 00:54:47,265 --> 00:54:55,515 wrong, it's, it's the citizens of Ukraine that are ultimately paying the price. 870 00:54:56,475 --> 00:55:00,225 And if we can do anything to help them, uh, I would strongly, 871 00:55:00,645 --> 00:55:02,235 strongly encourage you. 872 00:55:02,955 --> 00:55:04,065 The courage you to do that. 873 00:55:04,904 --> 00:55:07,725 Um, Mike has, as we wrap up today, 874 00:55:12,145 --> 00:55:17,035 you've said that, you know, on your Instagram, by. 875 00:55:18,275 --> 00:55:21,245 You have both the Russian and Ukrainian flag. 876 00:55:21,275 --> 00:55:26,285 And you're saying that a lot of people are getting mad that you have both flags, but 877 00:55:26,285 --> 00:55:30,725 everything that we've talked about today, it really seems like you're one-sided. 878 00:55:30,725 --> 00:55:35,675 So why do you even have both flags in your bio and why are people on 879 00:55:35,675 --> 00:55:38,105 both sides getting upset at you? 880 00:55:40,155 --> 00:55:40,635 Um, 881 00:55:44,475 --> 00:55:46,005 it may maybe feels like both sides. 882 00:55:46,005 --> 00:55:46,395 Really? 883 00:55:46,395 --> 00:55:49,755 It just, a couple of people are very patriotic to Ukraine in are straight 884 00:55:49,755 --> 00:55:53,385 up racist, straight up, you know? 885 00:55:53,745 --> 00:55:56,685 Uh, and it hurts because I'm close to them. 886 00:55:57,045 --> 00:56:00,045 I'm close to the people legally, you know? 887 00:56:00,735 --> 00:56:14,505 Um, uh, and I'm one sided for the fact that, um, this is all going to change. 888 00:56:14,535 --> 00:56:15,495 This is all going to go. 889 00:56:16,395 --> 00:56:16,995 You know what I mean? 890 00:56:17,475 --> 00:56:24,045 And the people that hear the call and they hear the invite and it's not just, 891 00:56:24,225 --> 00:56:30,405 it's not just Ukraine, you know, we don't have perfect governments today. 892 00:56:30,435 --> 00:56:35,385 We won't have them tomorrow, but the people that can recognize it and be the 893 00:56:35,385 --> 00:56:39,585 best that they can be in their countries across the world, because we're world 894 00:56:39,585 --> 00:56:40,965 people, I'm wearing a world shirt. 895 00:56:40,995 --> 00:56:44,805 I mean, I got the blue and yellow fruit crane, but I'm a world person. 896 00:56:47,805 --> 00:56:52,155 Um, that's it, you know, uh, 897 00:56:56,145 --> 00:56:58,395 I don't, I don't know how much more I have to say, man. 898 00:56:59,775 --> 00:56:59,955 Yeah. 899 00:56:59,955 --> 00:57:03,555 I love what you were saying about, you know, your near death experience, 900 00:57:03,555 --> 00:57:05,205 where you're crossing across walk. 901 00:57:05,205 --> 00:57:09,885 You get hit by a car running a red light, blacked out almost. 902 00:57:11,450 --> 00:57:14,870 Before you saying you, you know, you're depressed, suicidal, not 903 00:57:14,870 --> 00:57:17,510 knowing if you want to live and you have this near death experience. 904 00:57:17,510 --> 00:57:19,820 And all of a sudden you realize that life is precious. 905 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:24,530 It's worth risking things for, uh, any right. 906 00:57:24,530 --> 00:57:31,070 This, you know, this crisis, however long it takes, it's going to be out 907 00:57:31,070 --> 00:57:33,860 of the new cycle and there's going to be another crisis somewhere else. 908 00:57:33,860 --> 00:57:40,070 But it takes us as people standing up and taking risks, not just to 909 00:57:40,070 --> 00:57:43,760 make our lives better, but to serve someone else's to serve someone else 910 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,530 and help them in their time of need. 911 00:57:47,470 --> 00:57:47,950 Yeah. 912 00:57:49,780 --> 00:57:51,010 Serving can be really hard. 913 00:57:51,010 --> 00:57:53,050 I feel like, but it shouldn't be. 914 00:57:53,650 --> 00:57:57,370 So we have to figure out ways where serving isn't extremely hard for us 915 00:57:57,370 --> 00:57:59,950 because we got interesting lives. 916 00:57:59,950 --> 00:58:04,270 We're all, we're not all heirs to Johnson and Johnson or some fortune 500 company. 917 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:04,900 Right. 918 00:58:04,900 --> 00:58:09,370 And even then they themselves say, I wish I would have built it myself. 919 00:58:10,815 --> 00:58:17,444 And these rich kids, you know, and I feel for them too, you know, um, uh, we 920 00:58:17,444 --> 00:58:22,545 have a calling, we feel the calling and we have to, it's so hard to be honest 921 00:58:22,545 --> 00:58:27,105 to it because our brain, our brain is saying, I want to bomb and kill. 922 00:58:27,915 --> 00:58:31,455 That's what our brain is saying, but our soul is saying something up. 923 00:58:32,265 --> 00:58:35,535 And so find the balance because we need our brains to, we can't just shut off. 924 00:58:35,835 --> 00:58:36,165 You know? 925 00:58:36,525 --> 00:58:37,995 How do you, how do you ride guys? 926 00:58:38,205 --> 00:58:40,095 How do you recognize the calling? 927 00:58:40,995 --> 00:58:42,165 Like how do you recognize that 928 00:58:44,775 --> 00:58:51,255 when it's gets so painful and you have the fear of real pain doing 929 00:58:51,255 --> 00:58:58,904 something that you feel is incorrect, it's maybe more feeding an ego or 930 00:58:58,904 --> 00:59:00,825 some idea that's more up in your head. 931 00:59:00,825 --> 00:59:04,424 It's not balanced with who you are with food you're created to be, 932 00:59:05,565 --> 00:59:07,335 then that's your problem, right? 933 00:59:08,549 --> 00:59:09,750 You're too far in your head. 934 00:59:09,779 --> 00:59:13,740 I thought I was going to be like, uh, you know, I thought I w I thought 935 00:59:13,740 --> 00:59:19,340 I wanted to be some pop star and I've got, and I got to taste it all 936 00:59:20,150 --> 00:59:22,850 in a sense, you know, you're on TV. 937 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:23,270 Cool. 938 00:59:23,270 --> 00:59:24,529 Let's go, let's get it done. 939 00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:25,160 Let's do this. 940 00:59:25,250 --> 00:59:25,700 Let's do that. 941 00:59:26,690 --> 00:59:29,480 But at the end of the day, the balance wasn't there. 942 00:59:29,630 --> 00:59:34,430 And I was really pulling away from the sidewalk that's already there and I'm 943 00:59:34,790 --> 00:59:37,610 climbing these crazy rocks and guess what? 944 00:59:37,610 --> 00:59:39,140 I'm still going to get all that stuff. 945 00:59:39,170 --> 00:59:40,460 And I'm still getting it today. 946 00:59:41,330 --> 00:59:45,110 But the way that it's the way that it's valued, the way that I'm using 947 00:59:45,110 --> 00:59:46,520 it, whatever, what is it doing? 948 00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,340 Is it hurting my brother to hurting my family? 949 00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:51,860 You know, what am I doing? 950 00:59:51,860 --> 00:59:53,420 How am I balancing this stuff out? 951 00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:57,680 You know, is it, am I, am I am able to serve easily. 952 00:59:57,740 --> 01:00:02,270 I'm serving right now, the easiest, the most serving have ever done in my life. 953 01:00:02,330 --> 01:00:03,319 And it's the easiest. 954 01:00:05,455 --> 01:00:09,115 You know, and we all have that somewhere somehow, and we 955 01:00:09,115 --> 01:00:10,465 just, we do need to find it. 956 01:00:10,835 --> 01:00:11,905 We have to find it. 957 01:00:11,905 --> 01:00:14,125 We have to take that risk and say, I got to find it. 958 01:00:14,575 --> 01:00:15,685 I got to figure it out. 959 01:00:16,195 --> 01:00:17,455 I got to do it because it's there. 960 01:00:17,935 --> 01:00:19,735 If I have to engineer it, it's good. 961 01:00:20,035 --> 01:00:23,695 You know, if I have to ask for it, it's good. 962 01:00:23,875 --> 01:00:24,265 You know? 963 01:00:25,165 --> 01:00:29,005 Um, but yeah, man, 964 01:00:29,425 --> 01:00:32,845 you know, and you were saying that we all want to bond people. 965 01:00:34,525 --> 01:00:35,095 What happens? 966 01:00:36,025 --> 01:00:41,725 What happens when we are, w we find ourselves starting down that road 967 01:00:41,965 --> 01:00:48,115 in our calling and our brain starts veering us off and the jealousy, 968 01:00:48,145 --> 01:00:53,155 hatred, and becoming the very thing that we're fighting against. 969 01:00:53,155 --> 01:00:59,185 What, how do you, in the midst of you wanting to bomb specific 970 01:00:59,185 --> 01:01:02,995 nations or a specific nation right now, or someone who is that. 971 01:01:05,965 --> 01:01:09,715 You know, leading, leading to all this catastrophe and 972 01:01:09,745 --> 01:01:12,505 heartbreak and tragedy and war. 973 01:01:13,195 --> 01:01:17,245 How do you keep from becoming that thing that you hate? 974 01:01:21,495 --> 01:01:30,415 I know that I know that what we feel is good and I can trust 975 01:01:30,415 --> 01:01:33,255 that going out into the world. 976 01:01:33,255 --> 01:01:36,735 I can trust myself because I know that deep down inside. 977 01:01:36,735 --> 01:01:37,215 It's good. 978 01:01:38,935 --> 01:01:42,595 And so when I start thinking too much about, okay, this is what I was 979 01:01:42,595 --> 01:01:45,654 going to do, it starts to feel bad. 980 01:01:46,315 --> 01:01:49,525 I don't like to feel bad, you know? 981 01:01:49,915 --> 01:01:53,395 And I got to reel it back a little bit, forget about the money I got. 982 01:01:53,665 --> 01:01:57,085 I'm a guy that grew up, you know, whatever welfare, blah, blah, blah stuff. 983 01:01:57,445 --> 01:01:58,375 It wasn't bad. 984 01:01:58,404 --> 01:02:04,424 But my mom and dad did, you know, But the money was money 985 01:02:04,424 --> 01:02:06,075 was a target for me, for awhile. 986 01:02:06,794 --> 01:02:10,334 I thought about it enough, or I would, I would suffer enough 987 01:02:10,395 --> 01:02:13,154 just to save it up, you know? 988 01:02:13,845 --> 01:02:16,955 And, uh, and I realized that, Hey, there's some things. 989 01:02:16,964 --> 01:02:22,665 And there's so many different ways, so many different ways that are beyond me, 990 01:02:24,165 --> 01:02:28,395 that people in my life know about the, I don't, you know, let me tell you what the 991 01:02:28,395 --> 01:02:30,134 richest man in the world says, Elon Musk. 992 01:02:31,064 --> 01:02:31,814 Can I tell you something? 993 01:02:31,814 --> 01:02:32,265 What he says? 994 01:02:32,415 --> 01:02:36,404 He says, we're, we're launching rockets into space. 995 01:02:37,845 --> 01:02:43,484 It's some of the most intense engineering cumin have ever done. 996 01:02:45,015 --> 01:02:50,145 And he says before every launch, we look at that rocket standing 997 01:02:50,145 --> 01:02:56,685 there with the whole team, and we say to some degree, we're wrong. 998 01:02:59,115 --> 01:03:00,464 That's not happening with some leaders. 999 01:03:00,464 --> 01:03:00,584 Right? 1000 01:03:01,740 --> 01:03:03,780 Some people think they're a hundred percent right. 1001 01:03:03,780 --> 01:03:04,410 Humility. 1002 01:03:04,530 --> 01:03:06,900 And to some degree we're always wrong. 1003 01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,120 We're always wrong to some degree. 1004 01:03:09,420 --> 01:03:12,870 And we have to consider that and still go and do good, but 1005 01:03:12,870 --> 01:03:14,520 don't forget to some degree. 1006 01:03:15,780 --> 01:03:18,630 We're always wrong a little bit, a little bit, at least. 1007 01:03:18,630 --> 01:03:20,190 And that's enough to be humble. 1008 01:03:21,860 --> 01:03:22,790 That is a good word. 1009 01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:24,050 That 1010 01:03:24,050 --> 01:03:24,860 is a good word, 1011 01:03:29,030 --> 01:03:32,390 Mike, thank you so much for being on the show. 1012 01:03:32,390 --> 01:03:40,070 People can find you at Instagram at Mike Nova music and, uh, links is all 1013 01:03:40,070 --> 01:03:47,925 over in the show notes to be able to give, uh, to this, uh, To the NGO, 1014 01:03:47,925 --> 01:03:53,475 to, to your nonprofit, to be able to help, um, the work in Ukraine with 1015 01:03:53,505 --> 01:03:58,305 these orphans, saving people and feeding food or giving food to orphans. 1016 01:03:58,755 --> 01:04:02,985 Um, right now, if you check out the Instagram, there's posts, 1017 01:04:03,135 --> 01:04:04,515 links all over the place. 1018 01:04:05,205 --> 01:04:11,775 Um, and as we close, I just want to say, uh, yeah. 1019 01:04:11,805 --> 01:04:13,035 Thank you for being on the show. 1020 01:04:13,035 --> 01:04:18,555 Thank you for fighting, probably in wrestling in your own heart to find that 1021 01:04:18,735 --> 01:04:27,495 middle ground and for, for taking action, not just being a pundant on everything 1022 01:04:27,495 --> 01:04:31,275 that's happening when it comes to Ukraine and Russia right now, but you've, 1023 01:04:31,505 --> 01:04:35,775 you've moved beyond just being a pundit and you're taking action to actually 1024 01:04:37,275 --> 01:04:42,765 build a better future for, for people right now for these orphans right now. 1025 01:04:43,335 --> 01:04:44,655 So that's committed. 1026 01:04:46,185 --> 01:04:47,625 And, uh, an example to us all. 1027 01:04:49,585 --> 01:04:49,945 Yeah. 1028 01:04:50,755 --> 01:04:56,125 It's never going to stop the, the tensions in our lives. 1029 01:04:56,755 --> 01:04:57,925 I'm not talking about this war. 1030 01:04:58,675 --> 01:05:00,625 I'm talking about tensions in our lives somehow. 1031 01:05:00,655 --> 01:05:00,955 Right? 1032 01:05:01,465 --> 01:05:04,345 So I don't want to preach too much. 1033 01:05:04,375 --> 01:05:05,035 I'm sorry, man. 1034 01:05:05,095 --> 01:05:12,805 But, uh, if, if we know that what we believe in is right, and it's good, 1035 01:05:13,735 --> 01:05:16,765 we're going to have the easiest time and it's going to fly by like this. 1036 01:05:16,765 --> 01:05:19,465 And it's going to be a miracle what we're feeling and what we're doing. 1037 01:05:20,065 --> 01:05:23,215 And it is a miracle right now in a lot of people's lives. 1038 01:05:23,215 --> 01:05:26,485 And it should be more of those kinds of people, you know? 1039 01:05:27,205 --> 01:05:30,235 And we invite them, we invite them to be like us. 1040 01:05:31,225 --> 01:05:35,125 We invite them because it's an awesome experience, the beautiful experience. 1041 01:05:35,515 --> 01:05:36,355 And it's worthy. 1042 01:05:37,285 --> 01:05:38,695 We invite them to be like us. 1043 01:05:39,955 --> 01:05:43,735 You don't have to, you don't even have to meet us, you know, just. 1044 01:05:44,970 --> 01:05:48,120 To start thinking like that, doing like that, you know, 1045 01:05:48,780 --> 01:05:49,860 you don't even give a dollar. 1046 01:05:49,860 --> 01:05:52,530 Sometimes we invite you to be like us. 1047 01:05:53,430 --> 01:05:53,700 You know, 1048 01:05:54,660 --> 01:05:59,520 now when you say, be like us, you're saying, be like someone who doesn't 1049 01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:05,130 just sit on the wayside, but someone who stands up and tastes takes risks, 1050 01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:06,630 like, what do you mean by that? 1051 01:06:09,390 --> 01:06:17,740 You know, uh, be like somebody that has such intense faith 1052 01:06:18,580 --> 01:06:20,320 and passion and no fear. 1053 01:06:21,220 --> 01:06:22,570 That's a really hard balance. 1054 01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:25,420 That's a really hard bowl of ingredients. 1055 01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,180 It sounds like a few ingredients. 1056 01:06:28,750 --> 01:06:29,470 It's tough. 1057 01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:34,390 So be like that and you will feel so amazing in your life. 1058 01:06:34,900 --> 01:06:38,830 You will feel so great and you will do everything that you've ever wanted to do. 1059 01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,140 And every single dream will come true. 1060 01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:41,980 Might have. 1061 01:06:44,379 --> 01:06:45,940 Yeah, it's great. 1062 01:06:45,940 --> 01:06:49,660 We just talked about on a previous episode, don't shrink back. 1063 01:06:50,620 --> 01:06:51,190 Don't shrink. 1064 01:06:52,149 --> 01:06:59,319 And in times like these, you know, us men, things just tend to want to shrivel 1065 01:06:59,319 --> 01:07:05,680 up a little bit, you know, just kinda like pull back and shrivel and, uh, but 1066 01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:11,200 it takes, it takes courage to stand in the face of fear to stand in the face 1067 01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:16,149 of man, I might, you know, this might crash the global economy and I'll lose 1068 01:07:16,149 --> 01:07:18,790 my job and how I'm going to eat and how I'm going to feed my family, how I'm 1069 01:07:18,790 --> 01:07:20,470 gonna feed my kids, what I'm going to do. 1070 01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:22,960 But it's what I hear you saying. 1071 01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:27,509 It's in that, that we stand up and say, no, I'm gonna, I'm 1072 01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:30,040 gonna live in spite of this fear. 1073 01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:34,120 I'm gonna, I'm going to go forth with courage and boldness. 1074 01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:37,930 There might be destruction waiting for me in the streets, but I'm 1075 01:07:37,930 --> 01:07:39,609 not gonna hide in my house. 1076 01:07:40,620 --> 01:07:45,720 Go forth out of my comfort out of myself, preservation to build something, 1077 01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:52,140 to, to meet the dragon outside, rather than waiting for them to come into my 1078 01:07:52,140 --> 01:07:55,050 house, to attack me and to devour me. 1079 01:07:55,770 --> 01:07:59,610 And I think in these times everyone has a dragon. 1080 01:07:59,610 --> 01:08:02,310 Everyone has those things looming in our lives. 1081 01:08:02,340 --> 01:08:07,590 I have things looming in my life that I'm well aware that I need to get out of my 1082 01:08:07,590 --> 01:08:10,200 house and attack those in the streets. 1083 01:08:10,710 --> 01:08:17,340 Those, those dragons in my life, rather than seeking self-preservation 1084 01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:21,569 and small minded thinking, playing it small and playing it safe. 1085 01:08:21,569 --> 01:08:23,010 So that resonates with me. 1086 01:08:26,550 --> 01:08:26,910 Yeah. 1087 01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:28,109 That's amazing. 1088 01:08:28,109 --> 01:08:28,529 Lucas. 1089 01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:30,180 And you're awesome, man. 1090 01:08:30,180 --> 01:08:32,279 You're so dedicated bro. 1091 01:08:32,279 --> 01:08:35,760 And watching you the last four years or such, right? 1092 01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:36,479 Something like that. 1093 01:08:36,510 --> 01:08:36,720 Yeah. 1094 01:08:37,109 --> 01:08:38,340 Um, it feels like that. 1095 01:08:39,569 --> 01:08:45,330 You know, well, you've been so committed to, um, just value, you 1096 01:08:45,330 --> 01:08:49,290 know, you've been so committed to, uh, your business, your building. 1097 01:08:49,290 --> 01:08:50,189 It's so awesome. 1098 01:08:50,279 --> 01:08:53,340 You know, great name two roots bakery, like so cool. 1099 01:08:53,519 --> 01:08:54,059 You know what I mean? 1100 01:08:54,420 --> 01:08:55,740 You hear kids 1101 01:08:57,509 --> 01:08:58,290 say, what is it? 1102 01:08:58,290 --> 01:08:58,830 You heard it here. 1103 01:08:58,830 --> 01:08:59,609 First kids. 1104 01:09:01,769 --> 01:09:02,009 Yeah. 1105 01:09:02,009 --> 01:09:02,450 I love that. 1106 01:09:02,450 --> 01:09:04,469 I can't talk about that. 1107 01:09:05,370 --> 01:09:05,790 Yeah. 1108 01:09:06,179 --> 01:09:12,710 You know, um, just amazing concepts and, um, you know, you're a blessing Belle. 1109 01:09:14,219 --> 01:09:15,599 You're a blessing, you know what 1110 01:09:15,599 --> 01:09:15,779 I mean? 1111 01:09:16,229 --> 01:09:16,740 Thank you. 1112 01:09:16,859 --> 01:09:17,250 Thank you. 1113 01:09:17,580 --> 01:09:18,000 Everyone. 1114 01:09:18,029 --> 01:09:19,259 Go follow Mike. 1115 01:09:19,740 --> 01:09:26,460 Give, do his nonprofit give to the work of helping orphans in Ukraine right now. 1116 01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:30,540 And thank you for listening to this episode. 1117 01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,599 Remember you, you are a. 1118 01:09:34,694 --> 01:09:38,444 Truth seeker, someone who goes out and pursues truth. 1119 01:09:38,474 --> 01:09:41,745 And that means that you have to have that sliver of humility. 1120 01:09:41,745 --> 01:09:45,794 You have to have that humility, knowing that you might be wrong because 1121 01:09:45,794 --> 01:09:47,504 we were in the pursuit of truth. 1122 01:09:47,924 --> 01:09:53,625 And it's through that, that we really are able to own our futures.