WEBVTT NOTE This file was generated by Descript 00:00:22.691 --> 00:00:23.381 Aaron Goldberg: Hey everyone. 00:00:23.381 --> 00:00:25.421 Welcome to the PJ Players Podcast. 00:00:25.421 --> 00:00:27.161 I'm your host, Aaron Goldberg. 00:00:27.491 --> 00:00:30.591 Today we have a great discussion with a friend of mine, Dr. 00:00:30.591 --> 00:00:31.391 Sean Drake. 00:00:31.631 --> 00:00:34.481 This is somebody I've learned a lot from over the left past few years, 00:00:34.481 --> 00:00:35.511 and I'm excited to share it with you. 00:00:36.401 --> 00:00:40.451 We're gonna hear about his background, his story, where he's at today, and what 00:00:40.451 --> 00:00:41.996 he does with his professional athletes. 00:00:42.626 --> 00:00:44.576 As well as athletes of all kinds. 00:00:44.816 --> 00:00:48.596 But what we really wanna talk about is how it relates to professional golfers 00:00:49.406 --> 00:00:53.306 recovery, uh, nervous system optimization. 00:00:53.606 --> 00:00:56.936 These are all things that are a little bit more in the limelight for pros. 00:00:56.936 --> 00:01:00.236 Now, this is something everyone's talking about, but I really want 00:01:00.236 --> 00:01:01.676 to take a deep dive with Dr. 00:01:01.676 --> 00:01:04.166 Drake on how he's come to. 00:01:04.511 --> 00:01:09.101 The protocols that he uses today and why it's so important. 00:01:09.101 --> 00:01:12.221 And I think the biggest question that I have and that I want to hear 00:01:12.221 --> 00:01:14.321 him talk about is the why behind it. 00:01:14.321 --> 00:01:15.326 So Dr. 00:01:15.326 --> 00:01:16.481 Drake, thanks for being here. 00:01:16.481 --> 00:01:17.291 Appreciate it. 00:01:17.561 --> 00:01:18.911 Uh, thanks. 00:01:18.911 --> 00:01:24.221 Uh, I'd, I'd like to start with how, how we got here today on your side. 00:01:24.336 --> 00:01:24.337 Dr. Sean Drake: 00:01:24.336 --> 00:01:26.496 Well, a lot of text messages back and forth. 00:01:26.556 --> 00:01:31.986 Um, you know, obviously huge Avian fan and you know, when we got to this point, 00:01:31.986 --> 00:01:33.351 I think it comes down to a couple things. 00:01:34.216 --> 00:01:37.156 Number one, um, trust and rapport. 00:01:37.156 --> 00:01:38.596 Rapport is really important to me. 00:01:38.776 --> 00:01:42.736 And you know, when I met Eric originally and a BM and I started 00:01:42.736 --> 00:01:46.156 to like, you know, look at, look at the energy and the frequency of the 00:01:46.156 --> 00:01:49.906 company and the man that he is and who he has around him with his brother. 00:01:49.906 --> 00:01:52.906 And you know, it started to trickle in like I was never 00:01:52.906 --> 00:01:54.466 supposed to be back in practice. 00:01:54.616 --> 00:01:57.556 You know, I was at OnBase U with Greg Rose, you know, titles, performance 00:01:57.556 --> 00:02:01.846 Institute, doing our research, doing our care for our guys there and our females. 00:02:02.416 --> 00:02:05.296 And you know, 2020 happened and all of a sudden, you know, we 00:02:05.296 --> 00:02:09.046 went online and so I came to Scottsdale to learn how to skydive. 00:02:09.076 --> 00:02:11.716 Ended up, you know, staying here, opening a small clinic. 00:02:11.716 --> 00:02:14.686 This kind of blew up into what we're at now, and I'll tell how we got there. 00:02:15.166 --> 00:02:18.826 But the minute that I met Eric, I realized that this is a man of God. 00:02:18.826 --> 00:02:22.846 This is a man of humanity, and he really truly wants to transform each and every 00:02:22.846 --> 00:02:24.676 player that he works with, not just like. 00:02:24.976 --> 00:02:27.736 From a financial standpoint, from a generational standpoint. 00:02:27.826 --> 00:02:30.646 And that's where we came together and I said, you know what, I'm, I'm behind you. 00:02:30.646 --> 00:02:31.636 I'll do whatever you need. 00:02:31.756 --> 00:02:32.356 Let's go. 00:02:33.016 --> 00:02:34.576 And so that's how we got here. 00:02:34.666 --> 00:02:39.196 Um, when it comes to the PGA athlete or the golfer, you know, I would've never 00:02:39.196 --> 00:02:40.786 gone into golf had it not been for Dr. 00:02:40.786 --> 00:02:42.736 Greg Rose and titles, performance Institute. 00:02:42.796 --> 00:02:46.606 If you wanna work with golfers, you have to do that, in my opinion. 00:02:47.176 --> 00:02:51.046 And you can argue swing all day long, that's not what I'm trying to say here. 00:02:51.046 --> 00:02:53.896 But when you understand physical limitations of your athlete. 00:02:54.556 --> 00:02:56.506 Then you can better help them be the best. 00:02:57.166 --> 00:02:59.626 Where I've come to now is understanding the energy of the 00:02:59.626 --> 00:03:02.446 athlete, and that's, that's what this podcast is really gonna be about. 00:03:02.986 --> 00:03:06.436 And it started with my own journey in 23 after my divorce 00:03:06.436 --> 00:03:08.116 where I got super depressed. 00:03:08.116 --> 00:03:11.386 Now, I had all these modalities in my clinic prior, but I was using 00:03:11.386 --> 00:03:12.856 them from a performance standpoint. 00:03:12.916 --> 00:03:15.166 I was saying, okay, how do I give them athletes? 00:03:15.166 --> 00:03:16.456 How do I get more range of motion? 00:03:16.456 --> 00:03:17.836 How do I get more capacity? 00:03:18.526 --> 00:03:21.346 What I didn't understand was the neuro emotional side until 00:03:21.346 --> 00:03:22.486 it happened to me, myself. 00:03:22.546 --> 00:03:26.176 And so I went from, you know, I have a dad who's special forces, and I have 00:03:26.176 --> 00:03:27.826 a mom who's supplying the military. 00:03:27.856 --> 00:03:31.066 And so I've got two, you know, dichotomy of energies going after me. 00:03:31.096 --> 00:03:33.286 One's, you know, very A type. 00:03:33.376 --> 00:03:35.626 Everything has to be dotted, everything has to be crossed. 00:03:36.346 --> 00:03:37.336 And my dad's like, no. 00:03:37.336 --> 00:03:38.446 Resilience is everything. 00:03:38.446 --> 00:03:40.606 So understanding how to stay calm and chaos. 00:03:41.356 --> 00:03:44.296 So when we look at the word recovery, I actually don't 00:03:44.296 --> 00:03:45.586 use that word in our clinic. 00:03:46.111 --> 00:03:49.621 Um, because we are not a recovery center, if you want that, there's, 00:03:49.651 --> 00:03:51.871 my buddy owns Optimize here locally. 00:03:52.111 --> 00:03:54.511 There's a lot of places you can go to get on modalities. 00:03:55.051 --> 00:03:58.501 When we're working with you, we're fine tuning where your limitations are 00:03:58.501 --> 00:04:02.401 inside your nervous system and building capacity within that, using modalities. 00:04:02.911 --> 00:04:06.751 So I get divorced or I'm going through a divorce, I'm depressed as heck. 00:04:06.841 --> 00:04:09.001 Um, to the point where I was suicidal. 00:04:09.121 --> 00:04:11.191 I was on my bathroom floor with a Glock in my mouth. 00:04:11.566 --> 00:04:13.456 And I'll never forget this day because Dr. 00:04:13.456 --> 00:04:15.256 Greg Rose called me at that very moment. 00:04:15.256 --> 00:04:18.346 He was checking on me every single day during that time. 00:04:18.976 --> 00:04:21.616 And he is like, look, I, I hear it in your voice. 00:04:21.616 --> 00:04:22.666 Something's off. 00:04:22.666 --> 00:04:26.836 I need you to drive to somebody's house and I'm gonna give caner a plug right now. 00:04:26.836 --> 00:04:29.416 So Brian Kane, so I drive to his house, right? 00:04:29.416 --> 00:04:31.576 And, and he works with a lot of our players as well. 00:04:32.026 --> 00:04:37.696 And I get there and I'm, I'm broken and I'm, you know, 220 pounds down to 150. 00:04:38.206 --> 00:04:38.776 I. 00:04:39.196 --> 00:04:42.676 I literally like, he just like him and his wife and just basically like coddled 00:04:42.676 --> 00:04:46.846 me and held me and like I just sat there at his kitchen table and our other buddy 00:04:46.846 --> 00:04:49.816 walks in and he's like, Hey, I think you should sign up for the Tempe Ironman. 00:04:49.816 --> 00:04:50.626 I'm going to. 00:04:51.466 --> 00:04:55.156 And I said, and my brain goes, dude, you're one 50. 00:04:55.156 --> 00:04:56.356 You can barely get off the couch. 00:04:56.356 --> 00:04:59.656 You're making it to the clinic during, you know, a spring training off season 00:04:59.896 --> 00:05:02.296 to get your guys through and then you're going home and you're crashing. 00:05:02.956 --> 00:05:05.506 And I'm like, whatever. 00:05:05.506 --> 00:05:06.916 I took the credit card, put it down. 00:05:07.891 --> 00:05:12.091 And it was really when I started to understand how to use the modalities 00:05:12.091 --> 00:05:16.981 from emotional standpoint, not just a a quote recovery standpoint. 00:05:17.371 --> 00:05:20.491 Like, I'm not just getting on this modality now to feel good. 00:05:20.611 --> 00:05:23.641 I'm getting on this modality to transform who I am on the inside. 00:05:24.211 --> 00:05:29.011 And so instead of using high GPMF, which is pulse electro magnetic field therapy, 00:05:29.431 --> 00:05:33.361 I started to use lower gauss mats because I could, I could lay on them overnight 00:05:33.361 --> 00:05:35.611 and get that energy capacity in my system. 00:05:35.611 --> 00:05:36.516 So when I woke up in the morning. 00:05:37.246 --> 00:05:39.436 I was ready to start doing something active. 00:05:39.916 --> 00:05:43.666 From a depression standpoint, since we're talking about golfers, golfers 00:05:43.666 --> 00:05:46.516 and tennis players are two of the most depressed athletes out there. 00:05:46.576 --> 00:05:49.366 It's not talked about very often, but mental health is a massive 00:05:49.366 --> 00:05:53.086 issue on the tour, and it's so hard to get there, right? 00:05:53.116 --> 00:05:56.746 Like they're the top, you know, everybody on the mini tours can play at the PGA 00:05:56.746 --> 00:06:00.046 level, but it's what's going on in between here that really allows them to go there. 00:06:00.736 --> 00:06:01.456 And so. 00:06:02.221 --> 00:06:05.701 As I started working with these modalities and started using the cold plunge, instead 00:06:05.701 --> 00:06:08.821 of saying, Hey, I need to be in there for 11 to 12 minutes for brown fat, you know, 00:06:08.821 --> 00:06:11.101 to go and to get my testosterone right. 00:06:11.431 --> 00:06:15.061 I was using the cold plunge more from a emotional correction standpoint. 00:06:15.061 --> 00:06:17.671 So when I'd get a different thought in my mind, a depressive 00:06:17.671 --> 00:06:19.021 thought or a frustrating thought. 00:06:19.411 --> 00:06:22.231 I'd get in the cold plunge as quick as I could catch my breath and get out. 00:06:22.231 --> 00:06:24.181 So I was using it for micro, you know what I mean? 00:06:24.691 --> 00:06:26.971 Then I was using the sauna instead of saying, Hey, I'm getting 00:06:26.971 --> 00:06:28.751 in the sauna for quote detox. 00:06:29.171 --> 00:06:33.721 I was using the sauna to build capacity within my own self, saying, oh man, okay. 00:06:33.721 --> 00:06:36.871 Setting a time limit of 20 minutes and at 20 minutes I didn't, I wanted 00:06:36.871 --> 00:06:39.811 to get out, but I was like, no, like push yourself a little bit further. 00:06:40.171 --> 00:06:42.511 So I started to build this energy capacity up. 00:06:43.471 --> 00:06:48.031 Then I started to realize, okay, I use the hyperbaric, not necessarily 00:06:48.031 --> 00:06:50.731 as getting in there to say, Hey, I need to get oxygen to help out with 00:06:50.731 --> 00:06:52.381 inflammation and help my body heal. 00:06:52.801 --> 00:06:56.131 I used it as my safety and my cocoon to work through my emotions, 00:06:56.131 --> 00:06:59.191 to have a place where it was just me and my own inner thoughts. 00:06:59.701 --> 00:07:03.961 I started to use vibration more from a standpoint of just stimulus 00:07:03.961 --> 00:07:05.431 of saying, okay, I am safe. 00:07:05.461 --> 00:07:07.051 I am calm, I am powerful. 00:07:07.546 --> 00:07:11.716 I started to use our light system to work the, the neuroplasticity 00:07:11.716 --> 00:07:13.576 within my brain of those emotions. 00:07:14.116 --> 00:07:17.896 And so like, what I started to really do is create a neuro emotional clinic of 00:07:17.896 --> 00:07:19.786 building resilience in the nervous system. 00:07:20.116 --> 00:07:23.416 Not just saying, Hey, I'm using these modalities because they feel good. 00:07:23.986 --> 00:07:27.136 So once I got to the Ironman Day, you know, I'm sitting 00:07:27.136 --> 00:07:28.096 there on the starting line. 00:07:28.096 --> 00:07:30.796 I'll never forget this, you know, and I'm, I'm like, and if you've 00:07:30.796 --> 00:07:33.466 ever seen an Ironman, a lot of people go out at once, right? 00:07:33.466 --> 00:07:34.791 And you've got heats and you've got all these things. 00:07:35.851 --> 00:07:38.671 And this relates to the PGA player, because you never 00:07:38.671 --> 00:07:39.571 know where you're gonna be. 00:07:39.571 --> 00:07:42.391 You know, starting on a certain day, they're gonna put 00:07:42.391 --> 00:07:43.531 you in a different position. 00:07:43.741 --> 00:07:46.651 But it's your prep that prepares you for those moments, for who you're 00:07:46.651 --> 00:07:49.381 gonna be playing with and what's what course you're gonna be playing at. 00:07:49.951 --> 00:07:53.701 And so I get to the starting line, I jump off, and within like literally 00:07:53.701 --> 00:07:58.321 probably 300 yards, I get decked in the face like Mike Tyson punched, and 00:07:58.321 --> 00:07:59.761 I'm sitting there and I'm like, dazed. 00:07:59.761 --> 00:08:00.901 And I'm like treading water. 00:08:00.901 --> 00:08:03.361 And this girl comes over in the kayak, Hey, do you wanna hold on? 00:08:03.361 --> 00:08:03.846 I'm like, no, I'm good. 00:08:04.651 --> 00:08:08.761 IU because of all the regulation I did from within during this training on 00:08:08.761 --> 00:08:11.311 these modalities, I knew I was safe. 00:08:11.461 --> 00:08:13.321 I knew how to, I knew how to course correct. 00:08:13.321 --> 00:08:13.771 Right? 00:08:14.041 --> 00:08:19.111 So if you have a bad shot, how quickly can you course correct within, not necessarily 00:08:19.111 --> 00:08:20.761 in that moment, but already within. 00:08:21.391 --> 00:08:24.271 So then I get to the bike and I do the first loop. 00:08:24.331 --> 00:08:28.141 And out here, um, in Tempe, you've got the Beeline, which is a long, fricking way. 00:08:28.501 --> 00:08:33.331 Down on, um, inside Scottsdale and on the second lap, I'm coming around and somebody 00:08:33.331 --> 00:08:35.251 holds up a sign that says, who hurt you? 00:08:36.511 --> 00:08:38.581 it brings up all the emotions of the divorce. 00:08:38.581 --> 00:08:42.331 It brings up all the emotions of the anger, and I'm just like crying 00:08:42.331 --> 00:08:46.171 on my bike and I'm screaming and I'm, and then I get to the beeline 00:08:46.171 --> 00:08:48.031 and 20 mile an hour more wind. 00:08:48.901 --> 00:08:50.881 So now I'm getting my butt kicked, right? 00:08:50.881 --> 00:08:52.201 Like, I'm like, oh. 00:08:52.261 --> 00:08:54.451 But it was just, you gotta keep going. 00:08:54.841 --> 00:08:59.041 And the philosophy from when I hike Kilimanjaro Ole Poey is just one step. 00:08:59.251 --> 00:09:00.121 Just one pedal. 00:09:00.211 --> 00:09:01.471 Just one thing, right? 00:09:01.681 --> 00:09:02.971 And so you got people coming by. 00:09:02.971 --> 00:09:06.901 And what's so amazing about Ironman and, and I tell all my golfers that 00:09:06.901 --> 00:09:09.721 it's so important to understand the resilience that it takes to do an 00:09:09.721 --> 00:09:12.631 Ironman, but it's a community sport. 00:09:12.661 --> 00:09:15.151 You're individual, but everybody wants to see you win. 00:09:16.051 --> 00:09:20.221 And so often when we're in, we're in golf, we, we beat ourselves up. 00:09:20.671 --> 00:09:21.181 You know what I mean? 00:09:21.181 --> 00:09:24.541 We don't have that, that circle around us telling you, Hey, man, keep going. 00:09:25.081 --> 00:09:26.611 Like, you're out there by yourself. 00:09:26.611 --> 00:09:28.561 You know, you're, you're, you're fighting every shot. 00:09:28.561 --> 00:09:32.701 Yeah, you've got your caddy, but in reality, you've got yourself and it's 00:09:32.701 --> 00:09:35.941 like, you gotta know, let that shot go. 00:09:36.391 --> 00:09:37.531 Keep it going to the next thing. 00:09:37.531 --> 00:09:42.176 Like Vision 54 taught me a lot when I did their program on really how to do that. 00:09:42.901 --> 00:09:47.071 So then I get around the third loop and wind's picked up another 15 miles an hour. 00:09:47.581 --> 00:09:50.371 And so like, I'm just getting my ass handed to me, right? 00:09:50.371 --> 00:09:50.821 Sorry. 00:09:51.241 --> 00:09:53.641 And I get to the running portion. 00:09:54.451 --> 00:09:57.841 First of all, I only train for three months, and my buddies are like, I don't 00:09:57.841 --> 00:09:59.101 know if he's actually gonna make it. 00:10:00.181 --> 00:10:02.881 And so I, I get into the run, I'm running an 11 minute pace. 00:10:02.881 --> 00:10:05.671 My buddies who are there, Michael Kowalski, I'm gonna give him a shout out 00:10:05.671 --> 00:10:08.401 on this too, because I would not have made it through this Ironman without him. 00:10:08.401 --> 00:10:10.681 Brian Kane, the rest of my buddies, Mason. 00:10:11.086 --> 00:10:13.996 Um, but it's a team aspect and this is why it's so important 00:10:13.996 --> 00:10:15.976 to this topic on the PGA golfer. 00:10:16.576 --> 00:10:20.626 But then I get to the run, I'm 11 miles in and there's this like guy in front 00:10:20.626 --> 00:10:24.526 of me going super slow and I try to go around him and I jar my hip again. 00:10:24.526 --> 00:10:25.576 I step in a hole. 00:10:25.936 --> 00:10:29.026 And I recently injured my about seven months prior at Tony 00:10:29.026 --> 00:10:30.796 Horton's house from P 90 x. 00:10:31.036 --> 00:10:33.286 And if you ever watch his videos, he's got people that come out there 00:10:33.286 --> 00:10:34.516 and do crazy workouts with him. 00:10:34.516 --> 00:10:35.836 Well, he has this rope that you climb. 00:10:35.836 --> 00:10:36.586 Two stories. 00:10:37.021 --> 00:10:39.601 Then you climb over and then you get these pegs and you come down, well, 00:10:39.601 --> 00:10:44.041 I missed the peg and I came down two stories on my hip, and so I re aggravate 00:10:44.041 --> 00:10:48.871 this at mile 11, and I've gotta keep going because at the end of the day, 00:10:48.871 --> 00:10:50.491 it's, it's not about giving up, right? 00:10:50.491 --> 00:10:52.771 It's the capacity to bounce back, recovering, even thrive 00:10:52.771 --> 00:10:53.671 in the face of adversity. 00:10:53.671 --> 00:10:55.111 That's the definition of resilience. 00:10:55.111 --> 00:10:59.011 Every single athlete I work with, I make them memorize that because 00:10:59.011 --> 00:11:02.731 at the end of the day, it's not, it's not about this moment. 00:11:03.376 --> 00:11:05.776 It is about everything else you've endured to get to this moment. 00:11:05.866 --> 00:11:09.046 It's about, okay, don't worry about what's next. 00:11:09.226 --> 00:11:10.516 That can't even happen yet. 00:11:10.726 --> 00:11:12.886 Like, you've gotta be present, you've gotta be here. 00:11:13.366 --> 00:11:16.126 So then I'm in the run and I'm going, and like I, at that, I 00:11:16.126 --> 00:11:18.976 honestly, I felt like the most loved person that you could imagine. 00:11:18.976 --> 00:11:21.646 I had, you know, PGA players out there watching me. 00:11:21.706 --> 00:11:24.916 I had pro, you know, baseball players out there, wa coming to watch me. 00:11:25.096 --> 00:11:27.046 So many patients, so many friends. 00:11:27.346 --> 00:11:29.476 It was probably the most loving experience I'd ever had. 00:11:30.241 --> 00:11:34.081 And so as I'm getting through to the finish line, I sprint through the finish. 00:11:34.081 --> 00:11:36.781 And if you ever run an Ironman, take the finish and slow down for 00:11:36.781 --> 00:11:38.161 your first one and just enjoy it. 00:11:39.061 --> 00:11:43.051 You know, I, I grab the medal, I go to see all my friends and my family, and they're 00:11:43.051 --> 00:11:45.871 all like, Hey, you know, congratulations on the, you know, finishing. 00:11:46.261 --> 00:11:48.481 And it wasn't about the finish for me, right? 00:11:48.511 --> 00:11:50.941 It was about the story and the journey of how I got there. 00:11:51.391 --> 00:11:56.011 And so I get done with the Ironman and I'm like all the emotions 00:11:56.011 --> 00:11:57.721 that came up during that race. 00:11:58.366 --> 00:12:01.306 Are the emotions that, you know, my guys on the KornFerry 00:12:01.306 --> 00:12:02.116 are going through right now. 00:12:02.116 --> 00:12:04.876 My guys on mini tour, my females that are on their tour. 00:12:05.296 --> 00:12:08.866 Um, like I, you know, I sponsor Ashley mean, who is the a SU Golf, 00:12:09.166 --> 00:12:11.686 you know, grace Summer Hayes, who's, who's about to come through. 00:12:12.046 --> 00:12:16.006 Uh, you know, I've been blessed to work with, you know, Tony au Winham Clark. 00:12:16.006 --> 00:12:19.186 I can go down the list of players, but if you go, if you come in my 00:12:19.186 --> 00:12:23.596 office, I don't post my players online to create credibility. 00:12:24.226 --> 00:12:27.676 Like, my thing is, is that I want you to be your best when you're in here with me. 00:12:28.321 --> 00:12:31.321 And so when it comes to modalities, you are the modality. 00:12:31.531 --> 00:12:32.641 I want you to realize this. 00:12:32.641 --> 00:12:33.631 You are the modality. 00:12:34.561 --> 00:12:37.291 All these energy systems around that we'll break into in the rest of 00:12:37.291 --> 00:12:39.631 this podcast, enhance that modality. 00:12:40.411 --> 00:12:44.251 But if you've got anger, if you've got frustration, if you've got sadness that 00:12:44.251 --> 00:12:47.761 you haven't dealt with, it's gonna show up in your performance on the course. 00:12:48.391 --> 00:12:52.951 And so that's really where we can step into this next part of, of what I do. 00:12:53.386 --> 00:12:56.626 As I have athletes that I have a one day, a three day and a five day program that 00:12:56.626 --> 00:13:00.916 guys will fly into or females, and we will completely reset their nervous system, 00:13:01.336 --> 00:13:04.756 and you're being moved from modality to modality to modality, to modality. 00:13:04.756 --> 00:13:07.486 We're working the body, we're doing breathwork we're doing different types of 00:13:07.486 --> 00:13:12.166 things, and it's because here's the deal is you can't just commit to one modality. 00:13:13.006 --> 00:13:16.636 Like this is where I think a lot of players go wrong, is they get excited 00:13:16.636 --> 00:13:17.986 about something that feels good. 00:13:18.511 --> 00:13:21.451 But it doesn't create proper change, right? 00:13:21.481 --> 00:13:25.261 Like there are certain things that I say like, yeah, it's awesome you have 00:13:25.261 --> 00:13:29.221 blank, but are you thinking about blank? 00:13:29.671 --> 00:13:32.491 And so, and if you're not, you're behind. 00:13:32.941 --> 00:13:35.851 And when you're traveling week to week and you're traveling, you know, state 00:13:35.851 --> 00:13:39.391 to, to different state, country to country, you're in different time zones. 00:13:39.391 --> 00:13:42.181 You're, and the thing is, you've gotta prep for those time zones. 00:13:42.571 --> 00:13:46.141 So this is where modalities become a true form of training. 00:13:46.561 --> 00:13:47.851 Not necessarily recovery 00:13:48.811 --> 00:13:49.291 Aaron Goldberg: Yep. 00:13:50.071 --> 00:13:50.971 I, that's amazing. 00:13:50.971 --> 00:13:53.311 I mean, so much to unpack there. 00:13:53.371 --> 00:13:55.741 Uh, don't want to gloss over anything. 00:13:55.801 --> 00:13:59.881 Uh, appreciate you being candid with your story and you know, everything you've gone 00:13:59.881 --> 00:14:03.446 through, um, the depths of where you're at with depression going through divorce. 00:14:04.186 --> 00:14:08.146 Um, but also the triumph of being able to train for an Ironman, pull out of it. 00:14:08.566 --> 00:14:11.956 You know, some of the key takeaways I have from that, it takes a team. 00:14:12.436 --> 00:14:15.376 You wouldn't have been able to do that without your friends, your team. 00:14:15.736 --> 00:14:18.676 Uh, we've been lucky enough to have Brian Kane on here. 00:14:18.826 --> 00:14:19.936 Um, he's awesome. 00:14:19.996 --> 00:14:27.136 He, uh, also a friend, uh, one of the greatest motivators I've met, uh, in golf. 00:14:27.136 --> 00:14:28.126 It takes a team. 00:14:28.186 --> 00:14:30.736 You are the, the golfer or the only one hitting the shot. 00:14:31.096 --> 00:14:33.916 But we all know how many people it takes to get you out there. 00:14:34.156 --> 00:14:37.186 Uh, when you're inside the ropes, yeah, it's you and your caddy and you're the 00:14:37.186 --> 00:14:38.656 only one that can pull the trigger. 00:14:38.836 --> 00:14:43.276 But before that, there's a lot of people that are helping out, and I 00:14:43.276 --> 00:14:47.656 think that's why we see when, when guys win, especially for the first time, 00:14:47.656 --> 00:14:51.436 so much emotion come out, even from guys that aren't emotional or don't 00:14:51.676 --> 00:14:56.266 seem like they'd be emotional, is it's everything that it took to get them there. 00:14:56.266 --> 00:14:59.716 And I think one of the common comments you hear is. 00:15:00.796 --> 00:15:03.616 Hey, I know how hard I work, but I know how hard everyone 00:15:03.616 --> 00:15:04.936 else worked to get me here. 00:15:05.026 --> 00:15:08.146 Whether it's parents, whether it's coaches, whether it's trainer, caddy, 00:15:08.386 --> 00:15:13.006 whoever it is, wife, girlfriend, and it's, it's, they understand what it takes to 00:15:13.006 --> 00:15:17.416 get to the tip of the spear to get them out there to perform at their highest. 00:15:17.956 --> 00:15:21.436 I think what's really cool, and what I want to continue to talk about 00:15:21.436 --> 00:15:25.516 is some of these mod modalities, you know, whether it's cold 00:15:25.516 --> 00:15:28.186 plunge, sauna, PMF, any of these. 00:15:28.666 --> 00:15:29.506 They're fantastic. 00:15:29.506 --> 00:15:32.836 They've helped players, even non-athletes. 00:15:32.866 --> 00:15:34.996 I'm gonna call myself a non-athlete at this 00:15:35.216 --> 00:15:35.217 Dr. Sean Drake: 00:15:35.216 --> 00:15:37.011 Well remember that if you have a body, you're an athlete. 00:15:37.011 --> 00:15:37.571 Bill Bowman 00:15:37.756 --> 00:15:38.896 Aaron Goldberg: I, and I love that. 00:15:39.016 --> 00:15:39.706 I love that. 00:15:39.766 --> 00:15:44.176 Um, okay, let's say, uh, retired post-professional athlete. 00:15:44.176 --> 00:15:44.806 How about that? 00:15:45.226 --> 00:15:45.796 Uh. 00:15:46.951 --> 00:15:51.691 But a lot of these are great for what they are with, but if, if it's not, 00:15:51.931 --> 00:15:55.861 sometimes it can be a bandaid to the symptom and not the, the root cause. 00:15:55.861 --> 00:15:58.921 I mean, I've talked about this with a lot of people I know I. 00:15:58.996 --> 00:16:03.706 Uh, Janet Alexander, somebody that, you know, also worked at TPI with Greg Rose. 00:16:04.006 --> 00:16:08.536 I mean, she was probably the 10th or 15th physical therapist trainer 00:16:08.536 --> 00:16:11.776 type person that I went and saw after my multiple back surgeries. 00:16:12.016 --> 00:16:14.776 And I was in so much pain still and I couldn't get through it. 00:16:15.016 --> 00:16:18.856 And I, I, I don't know what kind of depression I was in at that point, but. 00:16:19.201 --> 00:16:22.171 I was in so much pain and she literally saved my life, 00:16:22.171 --> 00:16:23.731 getting me out of that pain. 00:16:24.061 --> 00:16:27.301 Um, but understanding that she can gimme all the stretches in 00:16:27.301 --> 00:16:30.001 the world, but we gotta figure out what's actually the root cause of it. 00:16:30.391 --> 00:16:36.091 And I think not understanding kind of the emotional aspect of it is 00:16:36.331 --> 00:16:39.136 playing with it least one hand tied behind your back, if not both. 00:16:39.796 --> 00:16:40.016 Um. 00:16:41.086 --> 00:16:44.086 As we go into this next part is starting to talk about, you know, some of the 00:16:44.086 --> 00:16:50.716 modalities and some how you operate these 1, 3, 5 day, uh, what'd you call it? 00:16:50.716 --> 00:16:52.366 The retreats. 00:16:52.561 --> 00:16:52.562 Dr. Sean Drake: 00:16:52.561 --> 00:16:53.851 Well, I don't like the word retreat. 00:16:53.881 --> 00:16:54.331 I'm gonna talk 00:16:54.406 --> 00:16:54.646 Aaron Goldberg: Okay. 00:16:54.646 --> 00:16:55.906 Yeah, that's, I don't wanna misquote it. 00:16:55.906 --> 00:16:56.986 So what did you say they're called? 00:16:57.151 --> 00:16:57.152 Dr. Sean Drake: 00:16:57.151 --> 00:16:58.171 No, you're not misquoting at all. 00:16:58.171 --> 00:17:01.111 Because a lot of people, often when they do retreats, they don't 00:17:01.111 --> 00:17:02.341 set up integration and plan. 00:17:04.266 --> 00:17:06.586 And so the, I I don't want people thinking when they come 00:17:06.586 --> 00:17:07.846 to work with me, this is fun. 00:17:07.906 --> 00:17:10.546 Like this is not a, this is, if you, if you think you're coming out 00:17:10.546 --> 00:17:14.416 here to have like, you know, an easy experience, don't show up, you know? 00:17:14.416 --> 00:17:18.106 And like Ali Carter from USA softball, she, she lets me talk about this, 00:17:18.526 --> 00:17:21.706 but you know, she called me before she was gonna go back to Japan to get 00:17:21.706 --> 00:17:23.476 ready for the next Olympics, right. 00:17:23.896 --> 00:17:27.261 And I'd worked with her prior with USA softball, she's obviously the UCLA. 00:17:27.901 --> 00:17:31.651 And she wanted me to work with her foot, and she'd had been having some issues. 00:17:31.651 --> 00:17:33.691 And I said, ally, I go, I gotta be honest with you. 00:17:33.781 --> 00:17:35.731 If you're flying out here to work with your foot, yeah, I'm 00:17:35.731 --> 00:17:38.101 gonna help your foot, but that's, I, I don't wanna work with you. 00:17:38.791 --> 00:17:39.631 And she goes, what do you mean? 00:17:39.631 --> 00:17:43.051 And I said, if you're gonna come out here, we're gonna change your life. 00:17:43.051 --> 00:17:44.431 You're gonna run through an effing wall. 00:17:45.031 --> 00:17:47.911 And she's like, she was hesitant, right? 00:17:47.971 --> 00:17:49.471 And then she's like, you know what? 00:17:49.471 --> 00:17:49.951 I'm in. 00:17:50.011 --> 00:17:51.871 I'll be there on day three. 00:17:51.871 --> 00:17:53.341 She's like, I wanna run through an effing wall. 00:17:54.031 --> 00:17:57.481 And it, it was, and it, but it took, it took three days to break 00:17:57.481 --> 00:18:01.921 down these walls of this just like years of stuff that's built up. 00:18:02.371 --> 00:18:05.611 And when you're, when you're driving at the highest level, like look at 00:18:05.611 --> 00:18:06.901 Lindsay Vaughn for instance, right? 00:18:06.901 --> 00:18:10.831 Let's talk about a recent case and you know, I know Lindsay from working, 00:18:10.831 --> 00:18:14.311 you know, a lot of the old ski events that I used to, and one thing that 00:18:14.311 --> 00:18:17.041 I really have always admired about her and when she was dating Tiger 00:18:17.041 --> 00:18:20.701 was, you know, he came in with her and, um, we're on the PGA podcast, 00:18:20.701 --> 00:18:22.081 so why not put the story in there? 00:18:22.651 --> 00:18:25.981 One of the things that I really, truly admired about her and I still admire 00:18:25.981 --> 00:18:27.841 about her, is that she never gives up. 00:18:28.681 --> 00:18:32.311 And you know, if you've got a dream on tour of any part of tour, you're 00:18:32.311 --> 00:18:33.781 just getting started in golf. 00:18:34.201 --> 00:18:35.041 Don't give up. 00:18:36.421 --> 00:18:39.751 You know, it's, you gotta have this resilience and you've gotta have this 00:18:39.751 --> 00:18:44.491 mental capacity, but you gotta be able to fricking manage your emotions in a 00:18:44.491 --> 00:18:46.801 safe environment to be able to let go. 00:18:46.891 --> 00:18:49.651 Like you, we hold onto so much, especially in golf. 00:18:50.281 --> 00:18:53.701 And, you know, one of the things that, and, and here's the funny stat. 00:18:53.761 --> 00:18:57.361 So I, I cold plunge every single person that comes in my clinic, right? 00:18:57.781 --> 00:18:59.791 And my, my cold plunge is not a normal cold plunge. 00:18:59.791 --> 00:19:00.661 I have a orozco. 00:19:00.661 --> 00:19:02.131 I keep it at 32 degrees. 00:19:02.191 --> 00:19:03.361 I'm not here to play games. 00:19:03.361 --> 00:19:04.531 I'm here to change your life. 00:19:05.191 --> 00:19:09.331 And, you know, it's interesting to me, I've probably put a hundred, 00:19:09.481 --> 00:19:13.711 you know, PGA slash mini tour players through only four of 'em. 00:19:13.711 --> 00:19:15.931 Made it through two minutes on the first try. 00:19:17.791 --> 00:19:22.441 Compared to MLBI, I'm at like a 98% compared to my fighters, I'm 00:19:22.441 --> 00:19:24.091 at like a hundred percent right. 00:19:24.481 --> 00:19:31.441 There's a difference, understanding the chaos of a situation and staying 00:19:31.441 --> 00:19:35.671 calm because so often on the PGA and, and as you're building up, and, 00:19:36.246 --> 00:19:39.691 and I see this a lot in my clinic, is it is, you know, who's next? 00:19:39.691 --> 00:19:40.261 What's next? 00:19:40.261 --> 00:19:40.801 What's better? 00:19:40.801 --> 00:19:42.241 What's the grass is greener. 00:19:42.541 --> 00:19:46.981 And so a lot of guys jump from play, you know, PTs to chiros, to PTs to chiros, 00:19:47.026 --> 00:19:51.001 to ATS to these things because they don't, they don't give time because 00:19:51.001 --> 00:19:54.511 there's, they, they, there's, I wouldn't want to call it the word impatient, 00:19:54.961 --> 00:19:59.071 but they have this like, ability to be like, I can go to somebody else. 00:19:59.071 --> 00:20:01.261 I can do the next best thing I, you know, and they have the 00:20:01.261 --> 00:20:02.641 financial opportunity to do it. 00:20:03.271 --> 00:20:08.341 So in golf, you really have to say, number one, and it's a, this is a 00:20:08.341 --> 00:20:10.141 question I ask all my mini tour guys. 00:20:10.141 --> 00:20:11.611 I'm like, do you really wanna play golf? 00:20:12.631 --> 00:20:15.991 And it's amazing how many guys have retired from golf when they really realize 00:20:15.991 --> 00:20:17.251 that they're not doing it for them. 00:20:18.271 --> 00:20:22.321 And they're like, you know what, I'm, I'm just doing this because my dad, my 00:20:22.321 --> 00:20:24.091 coach, you know, I've been good at it. 00:20:24.091 --> 00:20:24.631 Right? 00:20:25.351 --> 00:20:28.531 It's not truly their passion and when you're trying to become a professional 00:20:28.531 --> 00:20:30.721 athlete, it has to be your life. 00:20:31.141 --> 00:20:34.561 Like, you know, obviously God first family and then your sport. 00:20:34.591 --> 00:20:36.871 But it has to be it. 00:20:36.871 --> 00:20:37.861 You have to live and die. 00:20:38.131 --> 00:20:40.411 Like I was just having a talk with one of my MLB guys who's 00:20:40.411 --> 00:20:41.071 in here for spring training. 00:20:42.136 --> 00:20:44.626 And he is, and I'm like, and I'm asking all my guys this year this 00:20:44.626 --> 00:20:46.306 question because I'm doing a data test. 00:20:47.116 --> 00:20:48.796 I'm like, why do you keep coming back here? 00:20:49.336 --> 00:20:51.016 And they're like, you never stop evolving. 00:20:52.036 --> 00:20:53.416 You always have something new. 00:20:53.446 --> 00:20:57.076 You're always bringing something newer in to make sure that I have an edge 00:20:57.316 --> 00:20:58.966 across the other guy on the field. 00:20:59.686 --> 00:21:03.046 And you know when, when you're working with a professional golfer, you know, 00:21:03.046 --> 00:21:06.496 you've gotta have your team and you've gotta have your programming routine. 00:21:06.496 --> 00:21:08.356 Brian King talks about this heavily, right? 00:21:09.136 --> 00:21:11.776 To me now I'm entering in the modality routine. 00:21:12.136 --> 00:21:15.766 Like, you know, you Gotter, Scoble on the wall, Josh Hater, Corbin Carroll, 00:21:16.066 --> 00:21:19.456 like all three of these guys run my protocols and programs, and there's a 00:21:19.456 --> 00:21:21.316 reason why they're the best of the best. 00:21:21.376 --> 00:21:25.396 Number one, they already have the talent, but it's what they do behind the scenes. 00:21:25.396 --> 00:21:26.986 It shows up when they perform. 00:21:27.556 --> 00:21:31.096 And so as a player, you have to, there's four things that I ask you. 00:21:31.546 --> 00:21:34.066 Number one, where are you at emotionally on a scale of 1 to 10? 00:21:34.156 --> 00:21:36.406 And I, and I'm like, no, bs like, where are you at? 00:21:36.946 --> 00:21:37.876 Where are you at mentally? 00:21:37.876 --> 00:21:40.996 On a scale of 1 to 10, where are you at spiritually on a scale of 1 to 00:21:40.996 --> 00:21:42.286 10, and where are you at physically? 00:21:42.916 --> 00:21:46.576 Within those four answers, oftentimes I can really figure out what to go 00:21:46.576 --> 00:21:50.556 after, because here's the deal, if you don't believe in a higher power, or 00:21:50.556 --> 00:21:55.606 you don't believe in yourself, we've automatically got a distrust, so you don't 00:21:55.606 --> 00:21:57.256 trust yourself when you're out there. 00:21:58.156 --> 00:22:02.086 So I've gotta, I've gotta frickin break you down into safety and calm to 00:22:02.086 --> 00:22:03.481 get you to believe in yourself again. 00:22:04.336 --> 00:22:07.366 Once you can see that you can believe in yourself, you can frickin do anything. 00:22:07.921 --> 00:22:08.281 Aaron Goldberg: Yeah, 00:22:08.566 --> 00:22:08.567 Dr. Sean Drake: 00:22:08.566 --> 00:22:11.626 And so that's really where it comes down to, like you are 00:22:11.626 --> 00:22:13.276 the modality, you are the abil. 00:22:13.306 --> 00:22:16.546 You can do anything, but you're also your biggest limitation. 00:22:17.574 --> 00:22:18.114 Aaron Goldberg: a hundred percent. 00:22:18.114 --> 00:22:23.544 I think this is a simplistic way of looking at it, but I look at it even 00:22:23.544 --> 00:22:29.454 as up until say 10 years ago, only one or two guys have shot 59 broke 60. 00:22:30.399 --> 00:22:34.119 And now all of a sudden, it happens almost every year because that cap 00:22:34.119 --> 00:22:38.649 got lifted where everyone's, not everyone, but people are doing it. 00:22:38.649 --> 00:22:41.169 It's like, well, if they can do it, I can do it. 00:22:41.289 --> 00:22:42.909 I believe now that I can do it. 00:22:43.479 --> 00:22:44.949 And now it starts happening all the time. 00:22:45.069 --> 00:22:48.669 And it's the same thing with college players playing well on PGA tour events. 00:22:48.669 --> 00:22:49.719 Okay, I saw that guy do it. 00:22:49.719 --> 00:22:50.859 I saw that guy win. 00:22:50.949 --> 00:22:55.479 As a college player, I can play well it 10 years ago, that wasn't the case. 00:22:55.479 --> 00:22:56.829 And it's same thing with yourself. 00:22:56.829 --> 00:23:00.789 If you can't see it in your mind before it happens, it's not gonna happen. 00:23:01.404 --> 00:23:01.405 Dr. Sean Drake: 00:23:01.404 --> 00:23:02.844 Well, I was a miler, right? 00:23:02.844 --> 00:23:06.144 And you look at Jim Ryan when he broke the four minute mile and you 00:23:06.144 --> 00:23:09.864 look at exactly what happened, post that, and now, and now you have women 00:23:09.864 --> 00:23:11.214 breaking, you know, these records. 00:23:12.099 --> 00:23:17.019 So to me, I truly believe that, I don't even think of the word optimization. 00:23:17.019 --> 00:23:18.369 I'm like, where's your capacity? 00:23:19.239 --> 00:23:22.179 Like your off season shouldn't be just spent working the body. 00:23:22.899 --> 00:23:25.959 It should be spent on building mental and physical and spiritual 00:23:25.959 --> 00:23:27.819 resilience and emotional resilience. 00:23:28.569 --> 00:23:32.319 If you can have all four of those above eight, I can take you and 00:23:32.319 --> 00:23:33.969 turn you into a fricking superstar. 00:23:34.689 --> 00:23:34.959 Aaron Goldberg: Yeah. 00:23:35.019 --> 00:23:35.020 Dr. Sean Drake: 00:23:35.019 --> 00:23:38.619 If you are missing one of those, you are going to fall, period. 00:23:38.649 --> 00:23:39.369 It's gonna happen. 00:23:39.369 --> 00:23:41.229 It's a matter of when and how and why. 00:23:42.774 --> 00:23:43.224 Aaron Goldberg: Yeah. 00:23:43.494 --> 00:23:44.454 No, it's, it's funny. 00:23:44.454 --> 00:23:47.694 One of the questions I was gonna ask you today that we've already been talking 00:23:47.694 --> 00:23:51.354 about the most is, you know, when we talk about some of these, you know, I'm 00:23:51.354 --> 00:23:53.454 gonna use the word recovery modalities. 00:23:54.084 --> 00:24:01.344 Are we just treating physical symptoms and trying to whether feel better and recover 00:24:01.344 --> 00:24:03.504 or rehab an injury or something like that? 00:24:03.504 --> 00:24:04.734 Or are we actually helping. 00:24:05.184 --> 00:24:07.554 Kind of the mental and the resilience side. 00:24:07.854 --> 00:24:09.834 Obviously we've had a ton of conversation around 00:24:09.834 --> 00:24:09.835 Dr. Sean Drake: 00:24:09.834 --> 00:24:11.004 it comes down to intention. 00:24:12.109 --> 00:24:12.399 Aaron Goldberg: Yeah. 00:24:12.594 --> 00:24:12.595 Dr. Sean Drake: 00:24:12.594 --> 00:24:14.844 At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what you're doing, right? 00:24:14.844 --> 00:24:17.874 What is your intention while you're, you doing whatever you're doing? 00:24:18.624 --> 00:24:21.564 Like, I make everybody, like every, every single room or everything I'm working with 00:24:21.564 --> 00:24:23.274 you on has a different breath work, right? 00:24:23.334 --> 00:24:26.694 I have my guys do breath work on tour, like I give them very 00:24:26.694 --> 00:24:30.204 specific breath patterns to do when they're in a hard case, easy case. 00:24:30.579 --> 00:24:31.929 Before, after the round. 00:24:31.929 --> 00:24:34.659 So like a quote, come down, parasympathetic. 00:24:34.899 --> 00:24:38.439 I have a sympathetic breath work we do prior, but at the end of the day, 00:24:38.439 --> 00:24:41.769 the, the, the most free modality that you have is your breath. 00:24:42.489 --> 00:24:44.619 And if you can own your breath, you can own your life. 00:24:44.709 --> 00:24:45.489 Yahweh, right? 00:24:45.489 --> 00:24:46.569 Like God, like Yahweh. 00:24:46.569 --> 00:24:47.139 It's a breath. 00:24:47.349 --> 00:24:50.679 It's so at the end of the day, breath work's number one to me. 00:24:50.889 --> 00:24:54.039 If you don't know breath work and you don't understand breath work, you've 00:24:54.039 --> 00:24:57.219 gotta own it because it, that's how you regulate your nervous system. 00:24:57.714 --> 00:25:00.924 And then from there we can add mechanical stresses of vibration. 00:25:00.924 --> 00:25:02.604 We can put PMF in there. 00:25:02.604 --> 00:25:06.324 We can go ahead and use light, sound, water, heat, and we can 00:25:06.324 --> 00:25:09.714 play this accordion of your nervous system based on where you're at. 00:25:09.714 --> 00:25:15.909 But if you can't regulate off your breath, that's, that's where we start number one. 00:25:17.184 --> 00:25:17.754 Aaron Goldberg: It is huge. 00:25:17.754 --> 00:25:18.174 I've. 00:25:18.684 --> 00:25:22.404 I never focused on breath and not to relate it to my golf, but I'll even 00:25:22.404 --> 00:25:24.024 relate it now to being a parent. 00:25:24.024 --> 00:25:27.774 Like I feel myself losing control with the kids. 00:25:28.224 --> 00:25:34.494 And if I remember to breathe, it doesn't take much, maybe three, five deep breaths 00:25:34.854 --> 00:25:37.044 and I can feel an instant difference. 00:25:37.734 --> 00:25:39.684 The key is remembering to do it, but 00:25:39.754 --> 00:25:39.755 Dr. Sean Drake: 00:25:39.754 --> 00:25:40.869 well, here's the thing, right? 00:25:41.784 --> 00:25:45.744 If you go into a stress situation for anyone listening to this, use this. 00:25:45.774 --> 00:25:49.134 Don't do it while you're driving, but like close your eyes. 00:25:49.824 --> 00:25:54.894 Find a either love or something you are super grateful for in your body. 00:25:55.344 --> 00:25:56.124 Breathe in the nose. 00:25:56.124 --> 00:25:57.564 Six seconds hum on the way out. 00:25:57.564 --> 00:25:58.164 Six seconds. 00:25:58.164 --> 00:26:01.554 Do that for 15 minutes and expand that, that frequency. 00:26:02.304 --> 00:26:04.329 It's gonna shift and change your nervous system instantly. 00:26:04.956 --> 00:26:05.526 Aaron Goldberg: That's amazing. 00:26:05.586 --> 00:26:06.936 Yeah, no, that's great. 00:26:07.776 --> 00:26:11.976 One of the things you hit on is, okay, post round, pre-round, having different, 00:26:12.306 --> 00:26:15.186 uh, breath work series to, to work off of. 00:26:16.356 --> 00:26:20.466 How, how do you differentiate if we're going into specific modalities or specific 00:26:20.466 --> 00:26:26.076 things that players can think about and work on off week versus tournament week, 00:26:26.496 --> 00:26:28.181 practice day versus tournament day. 00:26:28.866 --> 00:26:30.456 Obviously there's tons of variance. 00:26:30.456 --> 00:26:31.986 You even talked about it with the Ironman. 00:26:32.196 --> 00:26:35.826 You know, might have an am start, might have an afternoon start on the weekend. 00:26:35.826 --> 00:26:40.296 You might be, first off, you might be, hopefully your last off, um, off 00:26:40.296 --> 00:26:42.216 season versus middle of the season. 00:26:43.026 --> 00:26:45.396 How are we thinking through those different parameters? 00:26:45.396 --> 00:26:49.146 And then to tee up the following question, 'cause it may be different answers or 00:26:49.146 --> 00:26:50.221 different things to think through is. 00:26:50.916 --> 00:26:54.156 As we get towards summer and guys are starting to go to play over 00:26:54.156 --> 00:26:57.786 in Europe and there's gonna be bigger time zone differences. 00:26:57.996 --> 00:27:02.046 Right now we're recording this the Monday after Riviera guys are leaving 00:27:02.046 --> 00:27:03.696 the West coast, going to the East coast. 00:27:03.936 --> 00:27:08.736 Yeah, it's a three hour difference, but they're, I think players are semi used to 00:27:08.736 --> 00:27:12.966 adjusting for that when we're adjusting from the US going over to Europe for 00:27:12.966 --> 00:27:17.016 Scottish Open, the open championship, anything else they're playing over there. 00:27:17.196 --> 00:27:18.366 Those are big differences. 00:27:18.771 --> 00:27:23.841 How, so starting with the first questions on the variance of your schedule, 00:27:23.841 --> 00:27:25.281 how are we thinking through that? 00:27:25.681 --> 00:27:25.682 Dr. Sean Drake: 00:27:25.681 --> 00:27:30.271 So let's start with o off week leading up to a big week, right? 00:27:30.376 --> 00:27:30.666 Aaron Goldberg: Okay. 00:27:30.666 --> 00:27:30.946 Yeah. 00:27:31.411 --> 00:27:31.412 Dr. Sean Drake: 00:27:31.411 --> 00:27:34.801 What do you need to be your best on, on, on like the, that week when 00:27:34.801 --> 00:27:38.521 you're there to perform, let's say, like a, a, a master as a player's? 00:27:38.521 --> 00:27:39.361 Like what do you need? 00:27:40.816 --> 00:27:41.451 I am asking you, 00:27:42.021 --> 00:27:45.531 Aaron Goldberg: I, you need to be, have, you need to be rested with 00:27:45.531 --> 00:27:47.841 energy and you need to be focused. 00:27:47.961 --> 00:27:47.962 Dr. Sean Drake: 00:27:47.961 --> 00:27:52.551 Stop right there, right, so the week leading prior, I'm gonna charge your 00:27:52.551 --> 00:27:56.511 body up as much as I can with the highest amount of energy possible, 00:27:57.351 --> 00:28:01.496 using a high gas mat, using some heavy breath work, working on some 00:28:01.501 --> 00:28:04.941 motional regulation, building massive capacity with the coal plunge. 00:28:05.391 --> 00:28:09.021 Um, so what I'm doing is I'm, I'm creating you to have the most 00:28:09.021 --> 00:28:10.851 resilience when you get there. 00:28:10.851 --> 00:28:13.581 So as your energy capacity comes down, you're still higher than you 00:28:13.581 --> 00:28:15.741 would've been, had you not, right? 00:28:16.221 --> 00:28:18.321 The other thing that I'm doing is, depending on where your time 00:28:18.321 --> 00:28:22.311 zone is, I'm prepping your body seven days prior, so we're getting 00:28:22.311 --> 00:28:23.691 you onto a different sleep cycle. 00:28:23.961 --> 00:28:26.271 We're getting you onto a different like focus cycle. 00:28:26.271 --> 00:28:27.711 We're getting you on a different training schedule. 00:28:28.221 --> 00:28:31.191 And that we don't do this with everybody, but some guys that have adopted it 00:28:31.191 --> 00:28:34.911 have really seen some massive benefits, especially when we're doing a European 00:28:34.911 --> 00:28:36.681 rider or we're doing something like that. 00:28:36.771 --> 00:28:37.581 I'll be like, okay, cool. 00:28:37.611 --> 00:28:39.471 We're gonna prep out two weeks ahead of time. 00:28:40.011 --> 00:28:42.681 So we're training the system to be ready when we get there. 00:28:43.101 --> 00:28:47.691 Um, USA hockey did a really good job of this in Milan, and you saw it in 00:28:47.691 --> 00:28:50.901 the men's and Women's Golds this year, and I know one of their performance 00:28:50.901 --> 00:28:55.281 coaches really well and they, you know, they were so in tune with getting 00:28:55.281 --> 00:28:57.651 ahead of the time zone and focused. 00:28:58.251 --> 00:29:01.311 And so you've gotta really start to think, and, and I teach this to a lot 00:29:01.311 --> 00:29:04.971 of physicians and, and people on the speaking tours right now that I coach, 00:29:05.271 --> 00:29:07.491 is we're in different cities every week. 00:29:07.491 --> 00:29:10.341 Like, you know, my schedule, I don't know where I'm gonna be sometimes, but 00:29:10.341 --> 00:29:12.051 I could be in three cities in one week. 00:29:12.411 --> 00:29:15.141 But what I do is if I know for a fact I gotta be in New York and then 00:29:15.141 --> 00:29:18.351 I gotta be back on the west coast, I'm gonna go to bed at this earlier 00:29:18.351 --> 00:29:22.941 time, get up and get a workout in, and start getting my body prepared to 00:29:22.941 --> 00:29:24.561 be prepped for that next time zone. 00:29:25.311 --> 00:29:29.451 So it, it really comes down to understanding oxygen. 00:29:29.751 --> 00:29:31.191 Like, you know, nano v's. 00:29:31.191 --> 00:29:33.861 A big thing that I'm recommending to a lot of my players right now. 00:29:34.401 --> 00:29:38.151 And like, you can do 20 minutes on that, it's gonna increase your 00:29:38.151 --> 00:29:41.451 HRV while you're rested, while you're sleeping at your barracks. 00:29:41.451 --> 00:29:41.871 Massive. 00:29:41.871 --> 00:29:43.131 It's just hard to travel with. 00:29:43.581 --> 00:29:47.781 Um, the thing I love right now is breathing in CO2, so carbon genetics. 00:29:47.811 --> 00:29:50.916 Um, so when you breathe in CO2, you're creating stress in the system. 00:29:51.621 --> 00:29:54.441 And then you go throw nano V on top of that, you can, you can literally 00:29:54.441 --> 00:29:58.521 replace every cellular oxygen system in your body in a TP like that. 00:29:58.821 --> 00:30:00.891 And these are easy things to travel with, right? 00:30:01.221 --> 00:30:02.661 So on, on the other 00:30:02.661 --> 00:30:04.101 Aaron Goldberg: Will you explain what nano V is? 00:30:04.461 --> 00:30:04.462 Dr. Sean Drake: 00:30:04.461 --> 00:30:04.671 Yeah. 00:30:04.671 --> 00:30:07.521 So nano v think of it like activated air oxygen. 00:30:07.731 --> 00:30:10.161 So it's light activated frequency. 00:30:10.461 --> 00:30:14.151 Um, and as you're breathing it, it is creating a, a, your mitochondria 00:30:14.151 --> 00:30:17.211 to have more ATP so you can carry more oxygen so you can actually 00:30:17.211 --> 00:30:18.471 have a better result in the system. 00:30:18.921 --> 00:30:20.241 So you're decreasing inflammation. 00:30:20.241 --> 00:30:22.101 You're, you're increasing the ability for your hormonal 00:30:22.101 --> 00:30:25.371 patterns to actually regulate, and then you're recovering faster. 00:30:25.401 --> 00:30:28.221 Since you love the word recovery, I think you're building resilience 00:30:28.731 --> 00:30:29.961 on the other side of this. 00:30:30.021 --> 00:30:34.041 Red light's a massive thing for me, like I used Fringe red light now, like I, I 00:30:34.041 --> 00:30:35.721 helped another company for a long time. 00:30:36.141 --> 00:30:40.821 I'm backing Fringe, I'm backing Chroma, um, which is a, a portable, 00:30:40.881 --> 00:30:42.381 very high powered red light now. 00:30:42.951 --> 00:30:45.501 Um, every one of my players is non-negotiable. 00:30:45.531 --> 00:30:46.941 I'm like, get your fricking budget. 00:30:46.971 --> 00:30:49.701 Get it, you know, they've got, and the thing I love about Fringe, they just 00:30:49.701 --> 00:30:52.461 came out with a, um, red light yoga mat. 00:30:52.701 --> 00:30:55.221 So you can literally roll this thing up, you can lay on it at night. 00:30:55.221 --> 00:30:56.961 You can lay on it pre-round, post round. 00:30:57.321 --> 00:31:00.021 Um, so when you start to think about energy capacity of yourselves, 00:31:00.051 --> 00:31:01.281 that's a good thing as well. 00:31:02.091 --> 00:31:06.231 Um, Reax, which is a tool that you can use, a vibrational 00:31:06.231 --> 00:31:09.291 component, so as a neurological component, vagus nerve stimulator. 00:31:09.741 --> 00:31:10.911 But it also has a mouthpiece. 00:31:10.911 --> 00:31:13.461 So you can be working your cranial nerves and your eye movement, which 00:31:13.461 --> 00:31:15.861 is gonna improve, improve your performance and your function. 00:31:16.311 --> 00:31:21.081 Zen bug, which is a vagus nerve, auricular point, um, ultrasound, which I actually 00:31:21.081 --> 00:31:23.931 love more than some of the electrical stimulation ones that are out there. 00:31:24.471 --> 00:31:27.051 So these are how I regulate my, my player's nervous systems 00:31:27.051 --> 00:31:27.891 through the vagus nerve. 00:31:28.461 --> 00:31:32.661 So again, if I've got a guy that's into the week, if he's high stress, 00:31:32.661 --> 00:31:35.661 I'm gonna bring him down a little bit, you know, using a zen butter 00:31:35.661 --> 00:31:38.541 or reax or something just to get his regulation down in the morning. 00:31:38.916 --> 00:31:41.976 Then I'm gonna put him in a high intensity breath work and bring his energy capacity 00:31:41.976 --> 00:31:43.476 back up right before he goes out. 00:31:44.076 --> 00:31:48.306 So, you know, you gotta, it's, it's a really, like, what are we going after? 00:31:48.366 --> 00:31:50.346 How quickly can we adapt? 00:31:50.376 --> 00:31:52.086 So you, you gotta learn your athlete too. 00:31:52.116 --> 00:31:54.336 Like some guys can adapt really fast. 00:31:54.336 --> 00:31:56.526 Some guys that takes him a little bit of extra time. 00:31:57.306 --> 00:31:58.446 And then what are they willing to do? 00:31:59.166 --> 00:31:59.736 So. 00:32:00.602 --> 00:32:04.911 Aaron Goldberg: no, it's, that last point is great in terms of every athlete's 00:32:04.911 --> 00:32:07.401 gonna be a little bit different and how quickly they adapt or how they res 00:32:07.401 --> 00:32:09.621 probably respond to certain protocols. 00:32:10.266 --> 00:32:16.566 How, what's a, what's a good way for guys to start vetting new, new, uh, 00:32:16.626 --> 00:32:19.956 types of protocols or, or test them out? 00:32:19.956 --> 00:32:22.776 What, like a lot of guys are gonna be hesitant to test something 00:32:22.776 --> 00:32:24.186 new tournament week maybe. 00:32:24.186 --> 00:32:26.196 So how do they test it out? 00:32:26.256 --> 00:32:27.636 Non tournament week. 00:32:27.711 --> 00:32:27.712 Dr. Sean Drake: 00:32:27.711 --> 00:32:31.341 So Greg taught me this, and I think it's so important, like even with 00:32:31.341 --> 00:32:35.331 spring training right now, like I'm not making massive range of motion changes 00:32:35.331 --> 00:32:38.511 in these guys because they're, they're gonna become a baby giraffe, right? 00:32:38.901 --> 00:32:41.661 Like, you never f with something during a tournament week. 00:32:42.171 --> 00:32:43.641 You always do it in the bubble. 00:32:43.731 --> 00:32:49.401 And, um, you know, I coach on this, you know, you can hire me obviously, and I can 00:32:49.401 --> 00:32:51.621 help take you through, get you discounts. 00:32:51.621 --> 00:32:54.351 A lot of companies now are not doing free product. 00:32:54.351 --> 00:32:55.461 I wanna make that very clear. 00:32:55.491 --> 00:32:57.351 And I don't blame 'em. 00:32:57.411 --> 00:33:00.321 Like, you know, we had this influencer like boom, and then all 00:33:00.321 --> 00:33:01.641 of a sudden it didn't return back. 00:33:01.641 --> 00:33:05.151 And so now it's getting harder and harder to get companies to back certain 00:33:05.151 --> 00:33:06.711 athletes unless you're invested in it. 00:33:07.251 --> 00:33:10.191 And on the other hand too, it's like you can buy the modality, but if you 00:33:10.191 --> 00:33:13.041 don't understand how to use it for what you're using it for, it's just a wasted 00:33:13.041 --> 00:33:14.661 tool or it's actually hurting you. 00:33:15.411 --> 00:33:19.341 And you know, I would say depending on where you're at, make sure 00:33:19.341 --> 00:33:21.711 that you get an assessment with somebody to know where you're at. 00:33:21.711 --> 00:33:22.431 Get your blood work. 00:33:22.431 --> 00:33:22.731 Dr. 00:33:22.731 --> 00:33:23.991 R is phenomenal with this. 00:33:24.336 --> 00:33:29.466 You know, I've taken a sports medicine, functional medicine course, and ours 00:33:29.466 --> 00:33:30.756 been a mentor of mine for years. 00:33:30.756 --> 00:33:33.546 Like in 2020, him and I were actually supposed to open a clinic in Lake 00:33:33.546 --> 00:33:37.116 Nona together, but then the, you know, COVID happened and then 00:33:37.116 --> 00:33:38.166 we couldn't get the lease done. 00:33:38.166 --> 00:33:41.046 And so I ended up here, and then it blew up to where we're at. 00:33:41.556 --> 00:33:43.926 But, you know, you've gotta have your blood work looked at. 00:33:43.956 --> 00:33:47.796 You know, most men on the, on the mini two have low testosterone now. 00:33:48.351 --> 00:33:51.651 And with the rules, you know, you can't just take testosterone, but 00:33:51.651 --> 00:33:54.261 there's plenty of other things you can do to boost testosterone, right? 00:33:54.261 --> 00:33:55.101 Like Vasper. 00:33:55.401 --> 00:34:00.141 So we use Vasin here, which is a blood flow restriction device with cryotherapy. 00:34:00.141 --> 00:34:04.341 So as you know, 40 degree water going through in 20 minutes I can do two hours 00:34:04.341 --> 00:34:07.731 of stress while all of a sudden I drop your cortisol, I increase your growth 00:34:07.731 --> 00:34:11.361 hormone, your testosterone goes back to normal, and now you can perform better. 00:34:11.811 --> 00:34:15.261 So when it comes down to it, like, you know, hydros, I think hydros, 00:34:15.261 --> 00:34:16.161 I'll have to get the actual name. 00:34:16.731 --> 00:34:18.321 But there's a BFR suit now. 00:34:18.321 --> 00:34:20.901 Chase, Latner is like one of the main guys of the company. 00:34:21.291 --> 00:34:25.311 Um, I have a lot of my PGA guys, you know, warming up with that suit on to 00:34:25.311 --> 00:34:29.571 create that blood flow restriction to get more blood flow into the muscle so you 00:34:29.571 --> 00:34:32.301 have more power output and then you're gonna, you're obviously gonna, like, 00:34:32.301 --> 00:34:33.861 you have a better, you know, recovery. 00:34:34.906 --> 00:34:35.546 Aaron Goldberg: Yeah, that's awesome. 00:34:36.386 --> 00:34:39.626 I think, what about because time's such a limiting factor, 00:34:39.626 --> 00:34:40.906 especially tournament week and like. 00:34:41.766 --> 00:34:44.376 Whether it's, you know, again, let's use Riviera. 00:34:44.376 --> 00:34:48.066 Let this past week of, from when we were recording, uh, as an example, 00:34:48.336 --> 00:34:49.446 they didn't finish round one. 00:34:49.446 --> 00:34:52.086 So guys are finishing in the dark at 6, 6 30. 00:34:52.356 --> 00:34:54.846 They gotta get up real early to start their next round. 00:34:54.846 --> 00:34:58.206 They, I think they restarted at 7:00 AM which for most guys, that means 00:34:58.206 --> 00:35:02.946 they're on the training table by 5:00 AM so they don't have much time to, to 00:35:03.156 --> 00:35:07.351 get home, get something to eat, get to sleep, get even a decent amount of sleep. 00:35:08.211 --> 00:35:12.321 What's like the best bang for their buck in terms of even trying to recover, 00:35:12.321 --> 00:35:14.241 come down from that tournament round, 00:35:14.406 --> 00:35:14.407 Dr. Sean Drake: 00:35:14.406 --> 00:35:14.826 So that's 00:35:14.901 --> 00:35:17.721 Aaron Goldberg: and then be able to get right back going the next morning. 00:35:18.216 --> 00:35:18.217 Dr. Sean Drake: 00:35:18.216 --> 00:35:21.276 get a vagus nerve stimulator, like a zen bone or a reax. 00:35:21.726 --> 00:35:23.106 Get your body into regulation. 00:35:23.106 --> 00:35:25.626 Do the breath pattern, the six seconds in humming on the way out. 00:35:25.626 --> 00:35:26.226 Six seconds. 00:35:26.226 --> 00:35:27.606 Set a timer, 15 minutes. 00:35:27.906 --> 00:35:29.331 Visualize your game for the next day. 00:35:30.096 --> 00:35:31.296 And then let it go. 00:35:32.061 --> 00:35:32.481 Aaron Goldberg: Yeah. 00:35:32.736 --> 00:35:32.737 Dr. Sean Drake: 00:35:32.736 --> 00:35:35.616 you can control, like you've gotta let it go and say, okay, 00:35:35.616 --> 00:35:36.846 I, I've done everything I can do. 00:35:37.386 --> 00:35:39.666 I'm gonna give this to God, or whatever higher power I have, 00:35:39.726 --> 00:35:41.496 and I'm, I'm gonna go to bed. 00:35:41.856 --> 00:35:43.956 Um, if you've got a low guse mat, get on it. 00:35:43.956 --> 00:35:45.606 If you've got a high guse mat, get on it. 00:35:45.876 --> 00:35:49.686 Um, and then go to bed, like, and there's green light out there 00:35:49.686 --> 00:35:51.006 that's really good for calming. 00:35:51.096 --> 00:35:55.206 Um, you know, Tom from Roscoe Forge has come out with his own green light. 00:35:55.206 --> 00:35:57.396 He's got, you know, eye masks as well Now. 00:35:57.801 --> 00:36:01.791 Um, there's so many things that you can do that you can stack, like the, 00:36:01.791 --> 00:36:05.661 the key is to stack so that, you know, I can do more with somebody in 00:36:05.661 --> 00:36:09.531 one hour than most people can do with them in like three weeks because of 00:36:09.531 --> 00:36:11.271 the way that we can stack systems. 00:36:11.601 --> 00:36:14.211 So get an NOV, you know what I mean? 00:36:14.211 --> 00:36:18.021 Like, have a red light pad, you know, so you can stack all these 00:36:18.021 --> 00:36:20.001 things and do a 30 minute treatment. 00:36:20.031 --> 00:36:21.621 Go to bed and be ready for the next day. 00:36:22.366 --> 00:36:23.556 Aaron Goldberg: Yeah, no, it's awesome. 00:36:23.616 --> 00:36:27.411 I mean, I think, you know, coming out of Torry Pines a few weeks ago, Justin 00:36:27.411 --> 00:36:32.346 Rose wins and he's one of the few guys in his mid forties that are, you know, 00:36:32.346 --> 00:36:34.596 full status on PJ Tour now, whereas. 00:36:34.971 --> 00:36:38.601 10 years ago, it's very common that a, a ton of guys in their forties are, 00:36:38.601 --> 00:36:40.461 are the best players in the world. 00:36:40.941 --> 00:36:45.621 And, you know, there's a big feature on his recovery RV or whatever it was. 00:36:45.921 --> 00:36:50.091 Um, but it had cold plunge and hot, hot plunge and a, a red light sauna, 00:36:50.091 --> 00:36:52.461 red light, um, all sorts of things. 00:36:52.461 --> 00:36:54.621 And it's like, you know, reading a lot of the comments, 00:36:54.621 --> 00:36:55.641 it's like, yeah, that's great. 00:36:55.641 --> 00:36:58.701 One, if you have the resources to have that traveling around with you. 00:36:59.261 --> 00:37:02.561 That I think we can get to, and you've touched on it, like there's a lot of 00:37:02.561 --> 00:37:05.441 things that you can bring with you and travel with that that can work. 00:37:05.711 --> 00:37:08.981 Um, but more importantly, if you have the time, like they showed that 00:37:09.041 --> 00:37:11.771 the feature was like, Hey, this is what he did after his morning round. 00:37:12.011 --> 00:37:14.441 It's like, well, yeah, he can, after a morning round, he doesn't 00:37:14.441 --> 00:37:15.761 tee off till the next afternoon. 00:37:15.911 --> 00:37:18.161 He can spend two hours in his recovery rv. 00:37:18.161 --> 00:37:19.031 That's totally fine. 00:37:19.271 --> 00:37:22.091 But what about the reverse, the reverse of that, where you tee off in the 00:37:22.091 --> 00:37:26.381 afternoon, finish at six o'clock and you're gonna be up early the next morning. 00:37:26.591 --> 00:37:27.281 You don't, you're not. 00:37:28.296 --> 00:37:32.286 Spending two hours in a recovery room or whatever it is, is 00:37:32.286 --> 00:37:34.476 probably not your best use of time. 00:37:34.596 --> 00:37:38.286 But there is a, there is a fine line probably, and I'm not trying 00:37:38.286 --> 00:37:41.196 to say what is and isn't the best use of time, but there's, there's 00:37:41.196 --> 00:37:42.336 gotta be somewhere to sleep. 00:37:42.336 --> 00:37:45.456 And so do you spend, is it an hour? 00:37:45.456 --> 00:37:46.656 I think everyone's gonna be different. 00:37:46.656 --> 00:37:50.136 Most likely, and I'll let you speak on this, but finding that 00:37:50.436 --> 00:37:52.061 the, the tipping point of like. 00:37:52.971 --> 00:37:54.891 What's necessary, what's gonna help? 00:37:54.891 --> 00:37:57.021 And then where am I gonna get diminishing returns, where I should 00:37:57.021 --> 00:37:58.521 actually just get, go get more sleep? 00:37:58.911 --> 00:37:58.912 Dr. Sean Drake: 00:37:58.911 --> 00:38:04.611 Okay, so my argument on that side is that that is worth your time. 00:38:04.671 --> 00:38:06.531 'cause you're gonna get a better sleep process, right? 00:38:06.591 --> 00:38:09.951 If your body's regulated, you're energetic in the sense of being back 00:38:09.951 --> 00:38:12.676 to at least baseline, you're gonna get a better sleep pattern anyway. 00:38:13.521 --> 00:38:17.961 So, like, you know, I'll have some of my guys, they'll get on MLB at like 00:38:17.961 --> 00:38:19.761 11 o'clock at night and I'm in town. 00:38:19.761 --> 00:38:23.481 I'm working on them till 1:00 AM you know, for two hours going 00:38:23.481 --> 00:38:26.121 through all these modalities and protocols and working on the body. 00:38:26.571 --> 00:38:30.081 And then I put 'em to bed and like I wake, I wake nine o'clock, I 00:38:30.081 --> 00:38:31.341 get 'em ready for the next start. 00:38:31.731 --> 00:38:35.751 So I think it always comes down to, you know, what's the ultimate goal? 00:38:35.841 --> 00:38:38.961 And if you do only have a limited amount of time, how can you maximize the energy? 00:38:38.961 --> 00:38:40.941 How much, how much can you maximize? 00:38:41.751 --> 00:38:45.771 The opportunity and then get them into bed as quick as possible, 00:38:47.006 --> 00:38:47.306 Aaron Goldberg: Yeah, 00:38:47.421 --> 00:38:47.422 Dr. Sean Drake: 00:38:47.421 --> 00:38:51.531 they wake up, how quickly can you energize them and get them back into refocus? 00:38:52.656 --> 00:38:54.366 Aaron Goldberg: Yeah, no, it makes a ton of sense. 00:38:54.366 --> 00:38:58.926 And you know that quality sleep is gonna be better over quantity. 00:38:58.926 --> 00:39:03.366 I mean, you, you touch on the MLB guys and, you know, finishing at 11:00 PM you 00:39:03.366 --> 00:39:06.066 know, one thing you were touching on in the beginning of the podcast, and Eric, 00:39:06.126 --> 00:39:11.226 uh, speaking of Eric April, my partner at a WM and one of our founding partners, um. 00:39:11.961 --> 00:39:15.861 He, you know, as I've learned more and more about the baseball athlete side, like 00:39:15.921 --> 00:39:20.211 I know the performance side, but I, you know, the ins and outs of their routine, 00:39:20.541 --> 00:39:22.761 it ends up being fairly similar to golf. 00:39:22.761 --> 00:39:24.561 It's just everyone has their own adaptation. 00:39:24.936 --> 00:39:26.556 They're playing 162 games. 00:39:27.036 --> 00:39:30.786 I'm, I should do this math on, you know, we, as a golfer, you're probably 00:39:30.786 --> 00:39:34.536 playing close to 30 events, four rounds, an event that's 120 days. 00:39:34.536 --> 00:39:37.416 You throw in the practice days, the amount of days you're playing and 00:39:37.416 --> 00:39:39.426 all on the field is fairly similar. 00:39:39.666 --> 00:39:42.906 So the routines have variance, but the, the routines are fairly 00:39:42.906 --> 00:39:44.796 similar if we take out the hours. 00:39:45.066 --> 00:39:48.846 And so finding those, you know, commonalities there has been 00:39:48.846 --> 00:39:52.146 huge to be able to, Hey, how do we find best practices? 00:39:52.671 --> 00:39:56.991 For the highest performing athletes, no matter what your sport is, whether it's 00:39:57.021 --> 00:39:59.781 baseball, whether it's golf, whether it's football, whether it's skiing, 00:39:59.781 --> 00:40:03.831 whether it's, you know, just running a company, you know it, a lot of these. 00:40:03.831 --> 00:40:08.361 And so it, it's been super interesting to hear the, the different strategies, 00:40:08.361 --> 00:40:09.681 but then also the commonalities. 00:40:09.916 --> 00:40:09.917 Dr. Sean Drake: 00:40:09.916 --> 00:40:10.551 A hundred percent. 00:40:10.751 --> 00:40:12.281 Aaron Goldberg: I can talk to you about this all day and 00:40:12.281 --> 00:40:13.541 obviously that's why you're here. 00:40:13.751 --> 00:40:18.701 Um, I'm gonna stop it here because this is great and I know 00:40:18.701 --> 00:40:20.171 some people are gonna be like. 00:40:20.516 --> 00:40:23.096 You know, I could also listen to this for two hours, but I don't want to, we 00:40:23.096 --> 00:40:25.016 don't create two hour podcasts on this. 00:40:25.046 --> 00:40:28.916 So, um, really appreciate your time on this. 00:40:29.126 --> 00:40:32.876 Uh, if somebody wants to find you, reach out to you, where are you at? 00:40:32.876 --> 00:40:35.996 What's the best way to get to reach out to you or hear, hear more about 00:40:35.996 --> 00:40:37.346 what you're doing at Modern Athlete. 00:40:37.661 --> 00:40:37.662 Dr. Sean Drake: 00:40:37.661 --> 00:40:38.951 So they can reach out to modern athlete. 00:40:38.951 --> 00:40:40.041 They can follow me, Dr. 00:40:40.041 --> 00:40:41.591 Sean Drake on Instagram. 00:40:41.651 --> 00:40:43.121 PMF Pilates is my wife. 00:40:43.271 --> 00:40:44.681 You know, she's a big part of my clinic. 00:40:44.681 --> 00:40:46.271 She does all of our Pilates rehab. 00:40:46.631 --> 00:40:50.471 We have, you know, uh, guided manual PMF that we use in our clinic as well. 00:40:51.086 --> 00:40:53.216 So we do a lot of different work in here. 00:40:53.276 --> 00:40:55.406 Um, but yeah, we can do that and that'd be the easiest way. 00:40:56.036 --> 00:40:56.606 Aaron Goldberg: Nice. 00:40:56.666 --> 00:40:58.496 If we come in, do we get to meet od and the dog? 00:40:58.886 --> 00:40:58.887 Dr. Sean Drake: 00:40:58.886 --> 00:40:59.996 Oh, Odin's always here. 00:41:00.236 --> 00:41:00.776 Yes. 00:41:00.866 --> 00:41:01.196 Aaron Goldberg: right. 00:41:01.316 --> 00:41:04.796 I mean, that, that's as big of a plug for me to get in there as, as anything. 00:41:05.216 --> 00:41:05.217 Dr. Sean Drake: 00:41:05.216 --> 00:41:05.636 I love it. 00:41:06.236 --> 00:41:06.776 Aaron Goldberg: Nice. 00:41:07.136 --> 00:41:07.691 All right, Dr. 00:41:07.691 --> 00:41:09.116 Drake, really appreciate it. 00:41:09.176 --> 00:41:13.136 Uh, if anyone has any questions, reach out to him, uh, via what he just said. 00:41:13.406 --> 00:41:16.316 You can reach out to us through the PGA Players Podcast. 00:41:16.586 --> 00:41:20.246 Uh, as always, thanks for listening and hope this helps.