1 01:00:00,033 --> 01:00:12,366 [MUSIC] 2 01:00:17,333 --> 01:00:18,733 Hello and welcome to 3 01:00:18,733 --> 01:00:21,266 another episode of Undercooled. 4 01:00:21,666 --> 01:00:24,066 Today, we're going to hear from some, 5 01:00:24,066 --> 01:00:25,066 one of our material 6 01:00:25,066 --> 01:00:26,500 science undergraduates, 7 01:00:26,866 --> 01:00:28,433 and I am really 8 01:00:28,433 --> 01:00:29,900 excited about this episode. 9 01:00:30,500 --> 01:00:32,266 So, Tim, why don't you introduce Alexa? 10 01:00:32,766 --> 01:00:34,300 Sure. It's so good to have a 11 01:00:34,300 --> 01:00:35,366 student on the show instead of 12 01:00:35,366 --> 01:00:36,300 just old people sitting 13 01:00:36,300 --> 01:00:37,333 around and having opinions. 14 01:00:38,166 --> 01:00:39,566 So, this is Alexa. 15 01:00:39,866 --> 01:00:41,699 I will ask her to talk a 16 01:00:41,699 --> 01:00:42,533 little bit about herself, 17 01:00:42,699 --> 01:00:43,533 but the first thing 18 01:00:43,533 --> 01:00:44,633 I'll spoil is that she is 19 01:00:44,699 --> 01:00:46,500 the president of our 20 01:00:46,500 --> 01:00:48,099 student society and materials, 21 01:00:48,333 --> 01:00:49,633 the Michigan Material Society. 22 01:00:50,199 --> 01:00:52,000 So, I've done a lot of work with her in 23 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:53,599 that role over the last couple of years, 24 01:00:53,599 --> 01:00:54,966 just getting our students 25 01:00:54,966 --> 01:00:56,400 being part of a community. 26 01:00:56,766 --> 01:00:58,500 So, we're here to get all her secrets 27 01:00:58,500 --> 01:00:59,699 about how to make that happen. 28 01:01:00,900 --> 01:01:02,000 Yeah, Alexa, welcome to the show. 29 01:01:02,466 --> 01:01:03,599 Hi. Happy to be here. 30 01:01:04,133 --> 01:01:05,000 I have a student perspective. 31 01:01:05,699 --> 01:01:07,033 Yeah. Well, let's start just by 32 01:01:07,466 --> 01:01:08,800 hearing a little bit about you. 33 01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:09,699 Tell us about yourself. 34 01:01:09,966 --> 01:01:11,400 Why did you become an MSE major? 35 01:01:11,666 --> 01:01:12,199 Where did you come 36 01:01:12,199 --> 01:01:13,166 from? Why are you here? 37 01:01:13,733 --> 01:01:15,166 Yeah. So, I think my 38 01:01:15,166 --> 01:01:17,033 journey into MSE was not 39 01:01:17,033 --> 01:01:19,699 the typical journey, so to speak. 40 01:01:20,133 --> 01:01:21,966 I actually started out in the College of 41 01:01:22,066 --> 01:01:23,033 Literature, Science, and the Arts. 42 01:01:23,466 --> 01:01:24,500 I transferred into the 43 01:01:24,500 --> 01:01:25,033 School of Engineering 44 01:01:25,466 --> 01:01:27,099 after my freshman year of college. 45 01:01:28,466 --> 01:01:29,333 I went to high school 46 01:01:29,333 --> 01:01:30,933 in Denver, Colorado. 47 01:01:31,433 --> 01:01:32,433 I'm originally from there. 48 01:01:32,900 --> 01:01:34,099 In high school, I 49 01:01:34,099 --> 01:01:36,166 always knew I liked math, 50 01:01:36,166 --> 01:01:36,866 I liked science, 51 01:01:37,133 --> 01:01:38,966 particularly chemistry and physics, 52 01:01:38,966 --> 01:01:40,400 were my favorite types of science. 53 01:01:40,966 --> 01:01:42,133 I know I didn't want to do something like 54 01:01:42,199 --> 01:01:45,033 bio or psychology, but I also was really 55 01:01:45,099 --> 01:01:47,433 interested in doing things with people. 56 01:01:47,966 --> 01:01:48,633 So, something like 57 01:01:48,633 --> 01:01:49,900 law or policy was really 58 01:01:49,966 --> 01:01:51,199 interesting to me because I really 59 01:01:51,300 --> 01:01:54,933 liked doing a research style reading. 60 01:01:54,966 --> 01:01:56,866 I liked reading a lot of things and then 61 01:01:56,900 --> 01:01:58,900 making analysis on 62 01:01:58,900 --> 01:02:00,866 those readings and talking 63 01:02:00,866 --> 01:02:02,266 about my findings in that way. 64 01:02:02,699 --> 01:02:04,199 And so, when I first 65 01:02:04,199 --> 01:02:05,466 came to college, I was like, 66 01:02:05,466 --> 01:02:06,466 okay, I'm probably going 67 01:02:06,466 --> 01:02:08,033 to try to do this law thing. 68 01:02:09,300 --> 01:02:10,199 But I didn't know 69 01:02:10,199 --> 01:02:12,099 exactly what I wanted to do. 70 01:02:12,099 --> 01:02:13,699 So, I was like, okay, maybe econ is a 71 01:02:13,699 --> 01:02:16,000 math type law thing. 72 01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:18,800 So, I was taking calculus and chemistry, 73 01:02:18,900 --> 01:02:20,166 as well as some LSA 74 01:02:20,166 --> 01:02:23,133 classes, and in conjunction 75 01:02:23,433 --> 01:02:26,766 with that, as well as with COVID and 76 01:02:26,766 --> 01:02:27,566 everything happening 77 01:02:27,566 --> 01:02:28,966 my freshman year, I 78 01:02:28,966 --> 01:02:31,666 realized that I didn't actually 79 01:02:31,699 --> 01:02:33,500 want to take the law and 80 01:02:33,500 --> 01:02:34,766 policy classes that I was taking. 81 01:02:35,266 --> 01:02:36,800 I took Orgo, it was actually 82 01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:37,966 one of my favorite classes. 83 01:02:39,066 --> 01:02:41,400 And I thought math and doing 84 01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:42,866 that type of problem solving 85 01:02:43,033 --> 01:02:45,066 was really something that I was good at. 86 01:02:45,066 --> 01:02:46,366 And so, I decided to transfer into the 87 01:02:46,366 --> 01:02:46,900 School of Engineering. 88 01:02:48,166 --> 01:02:49,433 I don't know, engineering 89 01:02:49,433 --> 01:02:50,333 was never really something 90 01:02:50,333 --> 01:02:52,166 that I had considered. 91 01:02:52,266 --> 01:02:54,199 I just kind of fell into place. 92 01:02:54,933 --> 01:02:55,933 I originally thought I wanted to do 93 01:02:55,933 --> 01:02:56,766 chemical engineering. 94 01:02:56,766 --> 01:02:58,400 So, when I transferred, I started in 95 01:02:58,400 --> 01:02:59,366 chemical engineering. 96 01:02:59,366 --> 01:02:59,666 - Of course. 97 01:03:00,099 --> 01:03:00,766 - I feel like that's a 98 01:03:00,766 --> 01:03:02,066 pretty typical sentiment 99 01:03:02,266 --> 01:03:02,833 from the material 100 01:03:02,833 --> 01:03:04,266 scientists, because I was like, 101 01:03:04,266 --> 01:03:06,000 I like Orgo, I like chemistry, 102 01:03:07,066 --> 01:03:07,766 this is probably what 103 01:03:07,766 --> 01:03:08,433 I'm going to like doing. 104 01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:10,300 So, my first semester in 105 01:03:10,300 --> 01:03:10,900 the College of Engineering, 106 01:03:11,166 --> 01:03:13,500 I took engineering 101 107 01:03:13,500 --> 01:03:15,733 and then Mat Sci 220. 108 01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:18,266 And I remember thinking 109 01:03:18,266 --> 01:03:20,966 that my professor wasn't great. 110 01:03:21,266 --> 01:03:22,099 We didn't really click. 111 01:03:23,033 --> 01:03:24,166 - We won't name names. 112 01:03:24,366 --> 01:03:27,133 - No, but then I was like, 113 01:03:27,133 --> 01:03:27,766 I actually really 114 01:03:27,766 --> 01:03:28,699 liked what I'm learning. 115 01:03:29,300 --> 01:03:30,033 And so, because I 116 01:03:30,033 --> 01:03:31,166 don't like the professor, 117 01:03:31,166 --> 01:03:32,666 but I'm actually still so 118 01:03:32,666 --> 01:03:33,933 interested in what I'm learning, 119 01:03:33,933 --> 01:03:34,699 like I think this is 120 01:03:34,699 --> 01:03:35,466 what I want to study. 121 01:03:36,233 --> 01:03:39,599 So, it was like a good giveaway. 122 01:03:39,599 --> 01:03:41,199 And I just didn't end up even taking 123 01:03:41,199 --> 01:03:42,366 any chemical engineering classes. 124 01:03:42,599 --> 01:03:44,266 And so, yeah, I just 125 01:03:44,266 --> 01:03:46,000 ended up in material science. 126 01:03:47,866 --> 01:03:49,233 It was like end of my sophomore year 127 01:03:49,233 --> 01:03:50,699 when I had like fully declared. 128 01:03:51,166 --> 01:03:53,466 And yeah, so it was kind 129 01:03:53,466 --> 01:03:54,166 of a last minute decision, 130 01:03:54,366 --> 01:03:55,566 but I'm happy to be here. 131 01:03:56,133 --> 01:03:57,666 - And you've been one of us ever since. 132 01:03:57,666 --> 01:03:58,000 - Yeah. 133 01:03:58,000 --> 01:03:59,699 - So, glad to have you on the team. 134 01:04:02,466 --> 01:04:03,866 Yeah, you know, that's something we hear, 135 01:04:03,866 --> 01:04:05,433 I think quite a lot from students is, 136 01:04:05,433 --> 01:04:06,866 I liked chemistry in high school. 137 01:04:06,866 --> 01:04:08,166 So, I became a chemical engineer, 138 01:04:08,566 --> 01:04:09,366 and then I found out I 139 01:04:09,366 --> 01:04:10,233 wasn't doing chemistry 140 01:04:10,233 --> 01:04:11,400 in chemical engineering. 141 01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,166 And so, some of them find their way here. 142 01:04:14,300 --> 01:04:15,199 - Chemical. 143 01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:19,766 (indistinct) 144 01:04:19,766 --> 01:04:29,166 - So, as I spoiled earlier, 145 01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,166 one of your many roles in the department 146 01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,366 is being the MMS president. 147 01:04:34,366 --> 01:04:36,433 And can you also give the audience 148 01:04:36,433 --> 01:04:37,133 a little bit of 149 01:04:37,133 --> 01:04:40,733 background on what student life 150 01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,099 is like here in MSE for that matter, 151 01:04:43,199 --> 01:04:44,666 but particularly in MMS, 152 01:04:46,099 --> 01:04:49,466 what students in MMS are doing right now 153 01:04:49,766 --> 01:04:50,833 and how that connects 154 01:04:50,833 --> 01:04:52,300 into plans that you have 155 01:04:52,300 --> 01:04:54,099 for what the organization might do next. 156 01:04:54,699 --> 01:04:55,900 - Yeah, so I think 157 01:04:55,900 --> 01:04:57,699 particularly the material science 158 01:04:57,699 --> 01:04:58,966 and engineering department at the 159 01:04:58,966 --> 01:04:59,699 University of Michigan 160 01:04:59,966 --> 01:05:01,366 is super tight knit. 161 01:05:01,900 --> 01:05:05,133 I think MMS is a big part of that. 162 01:05:05,599 --> 01:05:07,099 We obviously have a really small major 163 01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:08,633 and everybody kind of 164 01:05:08,633 --> 01:05:09,599 gets to know everyone, 165 01:05:09,699 --> 01:05:10,699 especially junior year 166 01:05:10,699 --> 01:05:11,800 when people are taking 167 01:05:12,766 --> 01:05:14,433 thermodynamics, kinetics, 168 01:05:14,433 --> 01:05:15,633 and then the two lab classes, 169 01:05:16,366 --> 01:05:17,066 everyone's taking them 170 01:05:17,066 --> 01:05:18,099 all at the same time. 171 01:05:18,099 --> 01:05:19,966 And so, MMS is kind of like 172 01:05:19,966 --> 01:05:21,533 the social pairing to that. 173 01:05:22,466 --> 01:05:25,766 We do a lot of different social events 174 01:05:27,266 --> 01:05:28,800 and then as well as weekly luncheons 175 01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:29,900 so people can kind of 176 01:05:29,900 --> 01:05:31,199 take their classroom learning 177 01:05:31,866 --> 01:05:34,300 and hear from industry speakers, 178 01:05:34,699 --> 01:05:36,099 kind of as an idea of like, 179 01:05:36,333 --> 01:05:37,666 okay, I'm getting this MSE degree, 180 01:05:38,033 --> 01:05:38,966 like what the heck do I do 181 01:05:38,966 --> 01:05:40,033 with it after I graduate? 182 01:05:40,966 --> 01:05:41,500 It's a really good 183 01:05:41,500 --> 01:05:42,699 perspective for students. 184 01:05:43,599 --> 01:05:44,566 So I would say that 185 01:05:44,566 --> 01:05:48,166 generally is what MMS is there for 186 01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:49,866 and kind of the reason 187 01:05:49,866 --> 01:05:51,033 that I chose to get involved 188 01:05:51,166 --> 01:05:54,800 is when I joined MSE my sophomore year, 189 01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:56,733 I really was deciding 190 01:05:56,733 --> 01:05:57,866 that I wanted to fully commit 191 01:05:57,866 --> 01:05:58,766 to this new community 192 01:05:58,766 --> 01:05:59,699 that I was a part of 193 01:06:00,066 --> 01:06:01,766 and I thought if I ran 194 01:06:01,766 --> 01:06:02,866 for a board position, 195 01:06:03,033 --> 01:06:04,133 that would be a really 196 01:06:04,133 --> 01:06:05,366 good way to get involved. 197 01:06:05,699 --> 01:06:06,400 My junior year I was 198 01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:07,599 the outreach chair of MMS 199 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:09,566 and then I ended up 200 01:06:09,566 --> 01:06:11,099 becoming president this year, 201 01:06:11,699 --> 01:06:12,366 my senior year. 202 01:06:13,866 --> 01:06:17,366 And so after joining MMS, 203 01:06:17,366 --> 01:06:19,000 seeing like the way that it run 204 01:06:19,433 --> 01:06:21,166 and understanding kind of the role 205 01:06:21,166 --> 01:06:22,400 that it has in students' lives, 206 01:06:22,966 --> 01:06:24,400 again, being like a social outlet 207 01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:25,533 so people can know each other, 208 01:06:25,966 --> 01:06:27,099 not just in a classroom setting, 209 01:06:27,099 --> 01:06:28,366 but also in a social setting 210 01:06:28,366 --> 01:06:30,300 and then also like being 211 01:06:30,300 --> 01:06:32,366 kind of one of the key ways 212 01:06:32,500 --> 01:06:33,766 to connect classroom 213 01:06:33,766 --> 01:06:36,133 learning to real life. 214 01:06:37,099 --> 01:06:39,166 I decided to like take those things 215 01:06:39,166 --> 01:06:39,966 and I was like, okay, 216 01:06:39,966 --> 01:06:42,199 how can we create things? 217 01:06:42,766 --> 01:06:43,566 How can we create 218 01:06:43,566 --> 01:06:44,766 different offerings to students 219 01:06:44,766 --> 01:06:46,366 that are going to enhance the reasons 220 01:06:46,633 --> 01:06:48,199 that a student might wanna join MMS? 221 01:06:48,900 --> 01:06:51,266 - That's great and I really, 222 01:06:51,500 --> 01:06:52,966 I tried as much as I 223 01:06:52,966 --> 01:06:54,300 can to go to MMS lunch 224 01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:56,000 and I really enjoy it, 225 01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,666 but I'm very impressed with the speakers 226 01:06:58,666 --> 01:07:00,199 that you've been bringing in this year. 227 01:07:00,666 --> 01:07:02,533 You bring in many people from industry, 228 01:07:03,099 --> 01:07:04,400 most of them are usually alums 229 01:07:05,166 --> 01:07:07,000 and sometimes you even bring alums 230 01:07:07,366 --> 01:07:08,666 who aren't gonna hire people 231 01:07:08,666 --> 01:07:10,800 but just have really interesting stories. 232 01:07:11,599 --> 01:07:12,599 So maybe you can talk 233 01:07:12,599 --> 01:07:13,500 about some of the people 234 01:07:13,500 --> 01:07:14,466 that you've brought in 235 01:07:14,466 --> 01:07:16,566 that you're kind of the most proud of. 236 01:07:17,433 --> 01:07:20,300 - Yeah, I'm definitely very proud 237 01:07:20,300 --> 01:07:22,000 of a lot of the speakers we've had. 238 01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:22,800 It's hard because 239 01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:23,866 there's just been so many. 240 01:07:25,466 --> 01:07:27,466 Yeah, we've brought in several alums. 241 01:07:28,433 --> 01:07:31,033 Recently we had Rossalyn Quaye 242 01:07:31,033 --> 01:07:33,900 and she has had like such a cool career. 243 01:07:33,933 --> 01:07:36,466 She does law and policy 244 01:07:36,466 --> 01:07:37,866 in the utility industry 245 01:07:38,833 --> 01:07:42,400 after completing dance schooling. 246 01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:44,633 So that is so cool and 247 01:07:44,633 --> 01:07:45,933 just such a unique path 248 01:07:45,933 --> 01:07:46,666 that I thought students 249 01:07:46,666 --> 01:07:47,633 could really learn from 250 01:07:47,633 --> 01:07:49,500 because we've had a lot of industry 251 01:07:49,500 --> 01:07:50,566 speakers in as well. 252 01:07:51,300 --> 01:07:52,900 So we've had General 253 01:07:52,900 --> 01:07:55,333 Motors and General Electric. 254 01:07:56,466 --> 01:07:57,300 - And General Mills, 255 01:07:57,599 --> 01:07:59,233 just to finish out the general trilogy. 256 01:07:59,633 --> 01:08:01,266 - General Mills, General 257 01:08:01,266 --> 01:08:03,866 Mills, my 482 project sponsor. 258 01:08:04,666 --> 01:08:04,866 - Nice. 259 01:08:06,199 --> 01:08:06,800 - Yeah. 260 01:08:07,099 --> 01:08:07,766 - And you have a tape 261 01:08:07,766 --> 01:08:09,666 company coming in tomorrow. 262 01:08:10,066 --> 01:08:10,566 - We do. 263 01:08:10,866 --> 01:08:11,699 So I thought that would 264 01:08:11,699 --> 01:08:12,333 be kind of interesting 265 01:08:12,333 --> 01:08:13,699 for people to get more 266 01:08:13,699 --> 01:08:14,599 in the consumer goods 267 01:08:14,766 --> 01:08:16,566 because we haven't done a lot of that. 268 01:08:17,733 --> 01:08:19,533 We have NASA coming this semester. 269 01:08:19,533 --> 01:08:21,399 They haven't come in like years. 270 01:08:21,833 --> 01:08:22,899 So that's really exciting. 271 01:08:23,166 --> 01:08:24,300 People are really excited for that. 272 01:08:24,300 --> 01:08:26,199 And Apple also is coming. 273 01:08:27,633 --> 01:08:27,866 Nike. 274 01:08:28,899 --> 01:08:30,733 We do try to like hit the big name brands 275 01:08:32,333 --> 01:08:33,233 and then like obviously 276 01:08:33,233 --> 01:08:34,699 some smaller things too. 277 01:08:35,966 --> 01:08:37,366 We had like a couple 278 01:08:37,366 --> 01:08:38,300 of like heat treatment 279 01:08:38,699 --> 01:08:40,399 or we've got Medtronic coming in. 280 01:08:40,666 --> 01:08:41,399 So like kind of the 281 01:08:41,399 --> 01:08:42,566 medical devices as well. 282 01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:45,933 Yeah, just all sorts of things. 283 01:08:45,933 --> 01:08:47,800 We also had like our department chair, 284 01:08:48,666 --> 01:08:49,899 Professor Holm, she came 285 01:08:49,899 --> 01:08:50,766 in and like gave a talk 286 01:08:50,866 --> 01:08:53,399 about counterfeit money. 287 01:08:53,766 --> 01:08:54,500 And so that was really cool 288 01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:56,333 because she's brand new to the department 289 01:08:56,333 --> 01:08:57,600 and we wanted to give her an opportunity 290 01:08:57,866 --> 01:08:59,066 to like speak to the student body. 291 01:08:59,766 --> 01:09:01,833 And so that was a cool luncheon as well. 292 01:09:02,633 --> 01:09:05,699 - Yeah, a lot of students get internships 293 01:09:05,966 --> 01:09:07,166 just by going to MMS 294 01:09:07,166 --> 01:09:08,366 lunch and staying after 295 01:09:08,366 --> 01:09:09,699 and talking to the people. 296 01:09:10,399 --> 01:09:11,800 So I think it's like 297 01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,566 every week is another job fair 298 01:09:15,100 --> 01:09:16,100 and material science. 299 01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:18,100 And it's all because of the 300 01:09:18,100 --> 01:09:19,399 hard work that you've done 301 01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:21,266 and the rest of your team. 302 01:09:21,266 --> 01:09:22,366 And so, as a faculty 303 01:09:22,366 --> 01:09:23,366 member, as the advisor, 304 01:09:24,066 --> 01:09:25,300 I am very, very 305 01:09:25,300 --> 01:09:27,666 grateful that our students 306 01:09:27,766 --> 01:09:28,500 are getting more and 307 01:09:28,500 --> 01:09:29,966 more opportunities for, 308 01:09:31,133 --> 01:09:32,466 you know, summer internships 309 01:09:32,766 --> 01:09:36,600 beyond just our regular job fairs. 310 01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,833 But we also have our own MSE job fair 311 01:09:38,833 --> 01:09:41,000 that I think you guys run as well. 312 01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:41,366 Is that right? 313 01:09:42,366 --> 01:09:45,266 - So the MSE career fair 314 01:09:45,266 --> 01:09:47,300 is run by MMS students, 315 01:09:47,300 --> 01:09:48,366 but it's not particularly 316 01:09:48,366 --> 01:09:50,899 like a board opportunity. 317 01:09:51,500 --> 01:09:53,533 This past year, Haley Whelan 318 01:09:53,533 --> 01:09:55,833 and Sabrina both planned it. 319 01:09:56,033 --> 01:09:56,966 - Yeah. 320 01:09:57,933 --> 01:10:00,800 So there's so much great 321 01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,066 stuff that we get to enjoy 322 01:10:03,066 --> 01:10:04,833 on the receiving side of MMS. 323 01:10:05,066 --> 01:10:05,966 Here's these speakers, 324 01:10:05,966 --> 01:10:06,766 here's these lunches, 325 01:10:06,766 --> 01:10:07,600 here's these professional 326 01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:08,699 development opportunities. 327 01:10:09,033 --> 01:10:10,266 But on the inside, I'm 328 01:10:10,266 --> 01:10:10,866 sure you've had to do 329 01:10:10,866 --> 01:10:13,000 some heavy lifting to make this happen. 330 01:10:13,866 --> 01:10:16,300 So, you know, without getting 331 01:10:16,300 --> 01:10:17,800 too into the weeds, I guess, 332 01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:19,233 were there any particular challenges 333 01:10:19,233 --> 01:10:19,800 that you've 334 01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:21,966 experienced as a student leader 335 01:10:21,966 --> 01:10:22,933 in this sort of setting? 336 01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:24,699 Because I'm sure anyone out there 337 01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:25,633 who's tried to 338 01:10:25,633 --> 01:10:26,933 organize more than two people 339 01:10:27,466 --> 01:10:28,600 has found out that 340 01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:29,666 that's not always easy. 341 01:10:30,133 --> 01:10:31,233 So what are some of those situations 342 01:10:31,233 --> 01:10:32,366 that have come up in MMS 343 01:10:32,366 --> 01:10:34,600 and how did you handle those? 344 01:10:35,133 --> 01:10:36,033 - Well, I think that the 345 01:10:36,033 --> 01:10:37,666 first thing that I realized was 346 01:10:37,866 --> 01:10:39,366 I really need to trust my board. 347 01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:41,766 My initial thought process 348 01:10:41,766 --> 01:10:43,466 about running a board was like, 349 01:10:43,633 --> 01:10:45,933 oh, I wanna be really chill 350 01:10:45,933 --> 01:10:49,166 and I want it to be low activation energy 351 01:10:50,266 --> 01:10:52,066 to do the work. 352 01:10:52,366 --> 01:10:54,366 And then I realized that's actually 353 01:10:54,433 --> 01:10:55,399 not what I want at all. 354 01:10:55,733 --> 01:10:56,300 Like this is a community 355 01:10:56,300 --> 01:10:57,399 that I really care about. 356 01:10:57,399 --> 01:11:00,066 And so the first week 357 01:11:00,066 --> 01:11:01,199 that I was president, 358 01:11:01,466 --> 01:11:02,966 I had each person write 359 01:11:02,966 --> 01:11:04,466 a one page document to me 360 01:11:04,566 --> 01:11:05,433 saying all of the goals 361 01:11:05,433 --> 01:11:06,233 that they wanna accomplish 362 01:11:06,899 --> 01:11:08,933 the year, things that they need from me, 363 01:11:08,933 --> 01:11:10,866 what they think their idea of 364 01:11:10,866 --> 01:11:12,699 success is within their role 365 01:11:13,366 --> 01:11:15,066 and specifically what they 366 01:11:15,066 --> 01:11:16,566 want MMS to work towards, 367 01:11:16,566 --> 01:11:17,500 like what they think that 368 01:11:17,500 --> 01:11:18,899 our goals should be towards. 369 01:11:19,366 --> 01:11:20,500 And then from there, I 370 01:11:20,500 --> 01:11:22,133 really give them autonomy 371 01:11:22,466 --> 01:11:23,533 because they know what their goals are, 372 01:11:23,566 --> 01:11:24,466 they know what they wanna accomplish. 373 01:11:24,699 --> 01:11:25,666 And then it just really 374 01:11:25,666 --> 01:11:27,133 lets me like trust my board. 375 01:11:28,399 --> 01:11:29,399 Like it's consistent. 376 01:11:29,399 --> 01:11:30,166 Like I know the weekly 377 01:11:30,166 --> 01:11:31,600 email will go out every week. 378 01:11:31,899 --> 01:11:33,266 Like I know Laura is 379 01:11:33,266 --> 01:11:34,466 doing like outreach stuff. 380 01:11:34,466 --> 01:11:35,433 I know like someone's 381 01:11:35,433 --> 01:11:36,566 gonna be at the open house. 382 01:11:36,833 --> 01:11:37,566 I know that things are 383 01:11:37,566 --> 01:11:38,566 gonna get taken care of. 384 01:11:38,966 --> 01:11:40,800 And so that could only 385 01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,033 ever happen by having a board 386 01:11:43,033 --> 01:11:44,366 that I trust, that I 387 01:11:44,366 --> 01:11:45,699 let feel like they have 388 01:11:46,033 --> 01:11:47,199 the opportunity to make a difference 389 01:11:47,199 --> 01:11:48,766 in the way they wanna make a difference. 390 01:11:49,466 --> 01:11:51,433 And also that by extension, 391 01:11:51,433 --> 01:11:53,100 like they can bring things up to me. 392 01:11:53,500 --> 01:11:55,533 I'll take it, I'll listen to it, 393 01:11:55,533 --> 01:11:58,366 I'll kind of adjust what I'm doing 394 01:11:58,366 --> 01:11:59,966 based on feedback that they have. 395 01:12:01,100 --> 01:12:04,166 And so that initially definitely helped 396 01:12:04,333 --> 01:12:06,699 when it came to coming across issues. 397 01:12:06,933 --> 01:12:09,399 But of course, like as a board, 398 01:12:09,399 --> 01:12:10,566 there's also been a lot of issue, 399 01:12:11,066 --> 01:12:12,466 like just things come up 400 01:12:12,466 --> 01:12:14,166 in general, it always will 401 01:12:14,166 --> 01:12:15,266 if you're trying to run a student org. 402 01:12:16,699 --> 01:12:18,866 So like for example, we tried to plan 403 01:12:18,866 --> 01:12:20,266 like a pretty big DEI event 404 01:12:20,666 --> 01:12:21,866 and there was like a lot of issues 405 01:12:21,866 --> 01:12:23,100 with the room reservations. 406 01:12:23,866 --> 01:12:25,699 We got a bunch of speakers first semester 407 01:12:25,866 --> 01:12:28,000 and the room didn't 408 01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:30,500 work and following up, 409 01:12:30,500 --> 01:12:32,199 we couldn't figure out how to exactly 410 01:12:32,199 --> 01:12:33,366 target who we wanted. 411 01:12:33,366 --> 01:12:33,800 We wanted like 412 01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:34,866 freshmen engineering students, 413 01:12:34,866 --> 01:12:36,500 but we didn't have like high signup. 414 01:12:36,866 --> 01:12:37,600 And so we had to move it 415 01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:39,366 virtual like two days before. 416 01:12:41,233 --> 01:12:42,333 And that just was really frustrating 417 01:12:42,500 --> 01:12:43,699 because it just didn't quite 418 01:12:43,699 --> 01:12:45,000 turn out the way I wanted to. 419 01:12:45,966 --> 01:12:47,033 But it was something where like, 420 01:12:47,399 --> 01:12:48,166 when I just really 421 01:12:48,166 --> 01:12:49,233 was stuck and I was like 422 01:12:49,500 --> 01:12:50,500 still marketing it and 423 01:12:50,500 --> 01:12:52,766 still like trying my best. 424 01:12:53,066 --> 01:12:53,966 Like it was like my 425 01:12:53,966 --> 01:12:55,233 board members who were like, 426 01:12:55,300 --> 01:12:57,100 okay, like let me give a suggestion, 427 01:12:57,300 --> 01:12:58,000 let's do it virtual. 428 01:12:58,300 --> 01:12:58,800 Let's do this. 429 01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:00,166 We can move to make 430 01:13:00,166 --> 01:13:01,066 an in-person experience 431 01:13:01,066 --> 01:13:03,199 like next semester or next year. 432 01:13:03,666 --> 01:13:05,033 Like I think just having 433 01:13:05,033 --> 01:13:06,500 those people to rely on 434 01:13:06,966 --> 01:13:09,166 is really helpful because it's like, 435 01:13:09,500 --> 01:13:11,233 they know how much I care about things. 436 01:13:11,233 --> 01:13:11,800 They know I would never 437 01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:12,699 ask them to do something 438 01:13:12,699 --> 01:13:13,866 that I wouldn't do myself. 439 01:13:14,100 --> 01:13:15,466 And so like that also kind 440 01:13:15,466 --> 01:13:16,733 of builds trust there too. 441 01:13:17,166 --> 01:13:18,399 - Yeah, it sounds 442 01:13:18,399 --> 01:13:19,866 like the internal dynamic 443 01:13:19,866 --> 01:13:22,100 is really productive, really good. 444 01:13:22,433 --> 01:13:23,133 Everyone having a role, 445 01:13:23,133 --> 01:13:24,533 everyone having ways to contribute. 446 01:13:25,266 --> 01:13:27,533 Is MMS doing anything externally 447 01:13:27,533 --> 01:13:28,800 with other student societies? 448 01:13:29,100 --> 01:13:30,633 Is there any like collaboration there 449 01:13:30,833 --> 01:13:32,100 that gives you opportunities 450 01:13:32,100 --> 01:13:33,899 to reach a broader audience? 451 01:13:34,833 --> 01:13:37,066 - So we've had a couple of social events 452 01:13:37,066 --> 01:13:37,866 with some of the other 453 01:13:37,866 --> 01:13:39,033 student orgs on campus. 454 01:13:39,866 --> 01:13:40,566 We had a volleyball 455 01:13:40,566 --> 01:13:41,600 tournament for semester 456 01:13:41,966 --> 01:13:43,800 with three other student orgs 457 01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:45,266 that are kind of like the MMS equivalent 458 01:13:45,866 --> 01:13:46,833 for some of the other departments. 459 01:13:48,433 --> 01:13:49,266 We participate in the 460 01:13:49,266 --> 01:13:50,433 SWE engineering games. 461 01:13:50,899 --> 01:13:54,100 So that was kind of a way to meet a lot 462 01:13:54,100 --> 01:13:55,366 of other student orgs 463 01:13:55,666 --> 01:13:57,899 and participate in their event. 464 01:13:59,699 --> 01:14:00,300 And then additionally, 465 01:14:00,300 --> 01:14:00,833 there's been a lot of 466 01:14:00,833 --> 01:14:01,866 stuff behind the scenes. 467 01:14:01,866 --> 01:14:02,866 So we've reached out to 468 01:14:02,866 --> 01:14:05,899 student orgs like BME and SWE, 469 01:14:06,199 --> 01:14:07,133 and we've talked to 470 01:14:07,133 --> 01:14:07,966 them about doing things, 471 01:14:07,966 --> 01:14:09,899 but it's just kind of like 472 01:14:09,899 --> 01:14:10,966 building those relationships 473 01:14:10,966 --> 01:14:12,066 and then we'll just see 474 01:14:12,066 --> 01:14:14,000 what kind of comes from it. 475 01:14:15,833 --> 01:14:16,566 - Very good. 476 01:14:17,300 --> 01:14:19,300 - Yeah, so you also are 477 01:14:19,300 --> 01:14:21,166 planning trips to industry. 478 01:14:21,933 --> 01:14:23,466 You also have 479 01:14:23,466 --> 01:14:26,000 incredible social gatherings 480 01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:27,366 like your bar crawls, 481 01:14:28,366 --> 01:14:30,666 and you also go to 482 01:14:30,666 --> 01:14:32,366 some national conferences. 483 01:14:33,033 --> 01:14:34,333 Can you talk about some of those things? 484 01:14:34,566 --> 01:14:35,333 - Yes, absolutely. 485 01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:38,433 So we're doing a trip to the 486 01:14:38,433 --> 01:14:40,166 Cleveland Cliffs Steel Mill 487 01:14:40,399 --> 01:14:42,699 in March in Dearborn, 488 01:14:43,366 --> 01:14:46,733 and we're getting funding through AIST, 489 01:14:47,266 --> 01:14:48,800 which is one of the 490 01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:50,699 national organizations. 491 01:14:52,699 --> 01:14:53,733 And that's really exciting 492 01:14:53,866 --> 01:14:55,000 because I actually got to 493 01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:56,333 pair with one of our faculty, 494 01:14:56,633 --> 01:14:57,199 Professor Marquis, 495 01:14:57,500 --> 01:14:59,033 and she's making it a 496 01:14:59,033 --> 01:14:59,933 requirement for her class. 497 01:15:00,199 --> 01:15:00,600 So we're gonna have 498 01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:01,300 really good attendance. 499 01:15:01,699 --> 01:15:01,966 - 470? 500 01:15:02,399 --> 01:15:03,033 - Yes. - Good. 501 01:15:04,266 --> 01:15:06,500 - But I've also, before I planned it, 502 01:15:06,500 --> 01:15:07,100 I really was like, 503 01:15:07,100 --> 01:15:08,033 "I don't wanna plan this if 504 01:15:08,033 --> 01:15:08,866 people don't wanna do it." 505 01:15:08,899 --> 01:15:10,566 So I asked my board members, 506 01:15:10,566 --> 01:15:12,000 I was like, "Would you guys go to this?" 507 01:15:12,199 --> 01:15:13,366 I pulled some of the juniors. 508 01:15:13,366 --> 01:15:13,800 I was like, "Is this 509 01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:14,300 something that people 510 01:15:14,300 --> 01:15:15,199 "would actually go to?" 511 01:15:15,199 --> 01:15:16,199 And I got a lot of 512 01:15:16,199 --> 01:15:17,300 feedback that they would. 513 01:15:17,300 --> 01:15:18,866 And so we're working on transportation 514 01:15:18,866 --> 01:15:20,366 and food for that now. 515 01:15:22,199 --> 01:15:23,066 So that's kind of exciting. 516 01:15:23,766 --> 01:15:25,600 And then kind of in terms 517 01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:26,366 of some of the other things 518 01:15:26,366 --> 01:15:28,566 you mentioned, our social events, 519 01:15:28,566 --> 01:15:31,000 we had a food progressive Thursday night, 520 01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:31,866 a couple of weeks ago, 521 01:15:31,866 --> 01:15:32,533 and actually the 522 01:15:32,533 --> 01:15:33,833 following luncheon the next day 523 01:15:33,833 --> 01:15:34,433 was the highest 524 01:15:34,433 --> 01:15:36,000 attendance luncheon we'd ever had. 525 01:15:36,199 --> 01:15:36,566 - Great. 526 01:15:37,100 --> 01:15:38,899 - So we were all out super late 527 01:15:39,166 --> 01:15:40,399 at the food progressive together, 528 01:15:41,133 --> 01:15:41,966 and then we all were there 529 01:15:41,966 --> 01:15:43,333 the next day at the luncheon. 530 01:15:43,633 --> 01:15:44,500 - Managed to wake up by 531 01:15:44,500 --> 01:15:46,366 noon and show up for lunch. 532 01:15:47,100 --> 01:15:48,966 - Yeah, I think something about like, 533 01:15:49,500 --> 01:15:50,800 you being like, "Oh my gosh, everyone, 534 01:15:51,100 --> 01:15:52,433 "thanks for coming, welcome to my house. 535 01:15:52,899 --> 01:15:53,899 "Such a fun time 536 01:15:53,899 --> 01:15:54,600 getting to know everyone, 537 01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:55,633 "and I will see you all tomorrow." 538 01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:57,666 And it worked. 539 01:15:58,966 --> 01:15:59,866 So that was pretty good. 540 01:16:00,100 --> 01:16:03,100 And then, yeah, like social events, 541 01:16:04,466 --> 01:16:05,633 the industry tour is different. 542 01:16:05,633 --> 01:16:06,966 Something also new that we did this year 543 01:16:06,966 --> 01:16:08,733 was the MSC undergraduate orientation. 544 01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,100 So we did that in fall and winter 545 01:16:11,233 --> 01:16:12,266 where all of the new 546 01:16:12,266 --> 01:16:13,500 declares from the past semester 547 01:16:13,500 --> 01:16:15,133 got together, we gave them food, 548 01:16:15,466 --> 01:16:16,766 talked to them a little bit about MSC, 549 01:16:17,166 --> 01:16:18,966 the insider perspective, so to speak. 550 01:16:19,199 --> 01:16:20,766 These are the electives you could take, 551 01:16:20,766 --> 01:16:21,500 like these are the 552 01:16:21,500 --> 01:16:22,533 classes you could consider. 553 01:16:23,033 --> 01:16:23,833 This is what you might 554 01:16:23,833 --> 01:16:25,100 wanna consider for your career. 555 01:16:26,399 --> 01:16:27,699 Prospects, we got 556 01:16:27,699 --> 01:16:29,000 feedback first semester, 557 01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:30,466 directly implemented it into the second 558 01:16:30,466 --> 01:16:31,199 semester orientation. 559 01:16:31,666 --> 01:16:33,466 And it's been a good way, 560 01:16:33,466 --> 01:16:34,433 like the sophomores have been 561 01:16:34,433 --> 01:16:35,333 coming more to the luncheon. 562 01:16:35,566 --> 01:16:35,833 They've been 563 01:16:35,833 --> 01:16:37,366 interacting more with the juniors, 564 01:16:37,366 --> 01:16:37,566 who have been 565 01:16:37,566 --> 01:16:38,500 interacting more with the seniors. 566 01:16:39,233 --> 01:16:39,866 I've seen a lot more 567 01:16:39,866 --> 01:16:41,266 interaction between the classes, 568 01:16:41,266 --> 01:16:42,033 and then I've had more 569 01:16:42,033 --> 01:16:43,166 attendance at the luncheon 570 01:16:43,500 --> 01:16:44,266 by extension from 571 01:16:44,266 --> 01:16:45,533 those two groups as well. 572 01:16:46,666 --> 01:16:47,199 - That's fantastic. 573 01:16:47,500 --> 01:16:49,300 I do have to ask off script here, 574 01:16:49,666 --> 01:16:52,600 but as part of the food prog, 575 01:16:53,166 --> 01:16:54,766 were people required to apply 576 01:16:54,766 --> 01:16:55,399 the structure 577 01:16:55,399 --> 01:16:57,199 processing properties paradigm 578 01:16:57,500 --> 01:16:59,266 to their culinary creations? 579 01:17:00,666 --> 01:17:01,666 - Not a requirement, 580 01:17:02,233 --> 01:17:03,266 but highly encouraged. 581 01:17:03,566 --> 01:17:04,699 - Okay, well, we'll 582 01:17:04,699 --> 01:17:05,866 work on that for next year. 583 01:17:06,166 --> 01:17:07,100 - On the other hand, 584 01:17:07,100 --> 01:17:08,733 I think that one of their next events, 585 01:17:08,766 --> 01:17:09,733 you have to come dressed 586 01:17:09,733 --> 01:17:11,566 as your favorite element. 587 01:17:12,300 --> 01:17:15,333 - Yes, the bar crawl coming up, 588 01:17:15,333 --> 01:17:16,266 dressed as your favorite element, 589 01:17:16,666 --> 01:17:17,399 wigs are encouraged. 590 01:17:18,666 --> 01:17:20,333 - I'll have to figure out what a 591 01:17:20,333 --> 01:17:22,399 molybdenum wig looks like. 592 01:17:23,533 --> 01:17:25,866 All right, yeah, of course. 593 01:17:28,066 --> 01:17:30,899 - So what about actually going to 594 01:17:30,899 --> 01:17:32,500 national conferences? 595 01:17:32,966 --> 01:17:33,733 Because I know we've been 596 01:17:33,733 --> 01:17:35,133 able to send a lot of people. 597 01:17:35,133 --> 01:17:36,566 I even saw you at MS&T. 598 01:17:37,300 --> 01:17:38,866 - I was able to attend MS&T. 599 01:17:38,866 --> 01:17:40,266 I was able to present my research. 600 01:17:41,199 --> 01:17:42,966 Actually, the coolest part about MS&T 601 01:17:42,966 --> 01:17:44,800 is I went to the chapter officer workshop 602 01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:46,966 and I got contacts for the 603 01:17:46,966 --> 01:17:49,033 other material advantage chapters. 604 01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:51,166 We haven't really touched on this, 605 01:17:51,166 --> 01:17:52,300 but MMS is also a 606 01:17:52,300 --> 01:17:53,300 material advantage chapter. 607 01:17:54,066 --> 01:17:55,633 So I'm technically the chair 608 01:17:55,633 --> 01:17:56,899 for Michigan Material Advantage. 609 01:17:57,699 --> 01:17:58,166 But I got to meet 610 01:17:58,166 --> 01:17:59,066 people from other schools 611 01:17:59,066 --> 01:18:00,600 and figure out what they'd been doing. 612 01:18:00,899 --> 01:18:02,266 And we got to talk to them about 613 01:18:02,766 --> 01:18:03,966 things we had been working on, 614 01:18:04,266 --> 01:18:05,100 the way that they get funding, 615 01:18:05,566 --> 01:18:06,766 the events that they put on. 616 01:18:08,166 --> 01:18:09,366 And so that was really cool. 617 01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:11,899 Plus the ability to present research. 618 01:18:12,699 --> 01:18:15,699 And yeah, MMS has funding to do that. 619 01:18:15,699 --> 01:18:16,566 And we're also sending one 620 01:18:16,566 --> 01:18:18,699 student to TMS in Orlando. 621 01:18:20,100 --> 01:18:20,666 I believe it's Orlando. 622 01:18:20,933 --> 01:18:21,233 - Orlando. 623 01:18:21,666 --> 01:18:23,633 - Yeah, this semester. 624 01:18:24,233 --> 01:18:27,699 So yeah, we really have, I'm so grateful. 625 01:18:27,933 --> 01:18:28,866 Like we have the connections 626 01:18:28,866 --> 01:18:30,100 that we do in the department 627 01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:32,366 and with again, the 628 01:18:32,366 --> 01:18:35,300 different societies, ASM, TMS, 629 01:18:35,666 --> 01:18:36,300 all of them. 630 01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:39,666 So yeah, that allows us to get funding. 631 01:18:39,666 --> 01:18:41,500 And then on top of that, you know, COE, 632 01:18:43,199 --> 01:18:46,433 the like SOFC, which is the student 633 01:18:46,433 --> 01:18:48,800 funding through COE. 634 01:18:49,100 --> 01:18:50,266 But yeah. 635 01:18:50,266 --> 01:18:51,166 - And I think a lot of 636 01:18:51,166 --> 01:18:52,866 our alums also contribute 637 01:18:53,633 --> 01:18:54,399 to be able to send 638 01:18:54,399 --> 01:18:55,699 students to conferences. 639 01:18:56,566 --> 01:18:58,166 - It's a super great opportunity. 640 01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:00,866 I think conferences, like obviously 641 01:19:00,866 --> 01:19:01,766 they're kind of coming 642 01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:03,133 back new off of COVID. 643 01:19:03,133 --> 01:19:04,533 So I would say like the 644 01:19:04,533 --> 01:19:05,500 attendance at the conference 645 01:19:05,966 --> 01:19:06,699 aren't as high. 646 01:19:06,699 --> 01:19:07,399 Like I remember going 647 01:19:07,399 --> 01:19:08,766 to MS&T and like, 648 01:19:09,100 --> 01:19:10,000 there were some schools that 649 01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:11,899 brought like 20 plus students. 650 01:19:12,166 --> 01:19:12,500 - Wow. 651 01:19:13,100 --> 01:19:14,233 - Yeah, it's crazy. 652 01:19:14,933 --> 01:19:16,199 - So this is actually a 653 01:19:16,199 --> 01:19:17,800 perfect segue to my next question. 654 01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:19,266 As your, as students are 655 01:19:19,266 --> 01:19:20,033 going to these conferences, 656 01:19:20,266 --> 01:19:21,266 meeting more people in 657 01:19:21,266 --> 01:19:22,666 MSE from other schools 658 01:19:22,666 --> 01:19:24,000 and in professional societies, 659 01:19:24,466 --> 01:19:25,333 you start to get a sense 660 01:19:25,333 --> 01:19:27,699 of what is special about MSE 661 01:19:27,899 --> 01:19:29,066 as a field, as a community. 662 01:19:29,866 --> 01:19:32,466 And I'm wondering if there's anything 663 01:19:33,566 --> 01:19:34,500 on the student organization 664 01:19:34,500 --> 01:19:35,899 side that you think is special 665 01:19:35,899 --> 01:19:38,666 about MMS as a group of MSE 666 01:19:38,666 --> 01:19:40,633 students that makes it different 667 01:19:40,966 --> 01:19:44,600 in some way from maybe more generic 668 01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:47,500 or more broadly reaching student orgs. 669 01:19:48,766 --> 01:19:49,733 - So are you talking 670 01:19:49,733 --> 01:19:51,466 about MMS in comparison 671 01:19:51,766 --> 01:19:53,566 to other material science student orgs 672 01:19:53,566 --> 01:19:54,866 or just student orgs in general? 673 01:19:54,866 --> 01:19:55,766 - Just in general, like 674 01:19:55,766 --> 01:19:57,000 you've mentioned working with SWE, 675 01:19:57,033 --> 01:19:58,466 for example, and they 676 01:19:58,466 --> 01:19:59,500 have this huge umbrella, 677 01:20:00,233 --> 01:20:01,466 for all engineers essentially, 678 01:20:01,933 --> 01:20:04,600 whereas MMS I think is a lot more focused 679 01:20:05,166 --> 01:20:06,000 in who it's trying to reach. 680 01:20:06,199 --> 01:20:07,466 And so I'm curious if you 681 01:20:07,466 --> 01:20:08,899 think there's something different 682 01:20:08,899 --> 01:20:10,500 in that experience of having a more 683 01:20:11,300 --> 01:20:12,666 like narrow audience in a way. 684 01:20:12,933 --> 01:20:13,633 - I feel like we have 685 01:20:13,633 --> 01:20:14,566 a stronger community. 686 01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:16,233 I think SWE, like the way 687 01:20:16,233 --> 01:20:17,666 that they get a lot of attendance 688 01:20:17,666 --> 01:20:18,300 is they have to 689 01:20:18,300 --> 01:20:19,699 incentivize people with points 690 01:20:19,899 --> 01:20:22,833 and with kind of flashy things. 691 01:20:22,833 --> 01:20:23,566 Whereas like a lot of the 692 01:20:23,566 --> 01:20:24,800 MSC people I've talked to, 693 01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:25,566 they're like, I'll be there. 694 01:20:25,866 --> 01:20:27,300 Like it doesn't need to be, 695 01:20:28,033 --> 01:20:28,966 like obviously we offer 696 01:20:28,966 --> 01:20:30,466 food, we offer like things, 697 01:20:30,466 --> 01:20:31,866 but people will just be there 698 01:20:31,866 --> 01:20:32,899 because their friends will be there 699 01:20:32,899 --> 01:20:34,233 because their community will be there. 700 01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:36,466 And I think particularly 701 01:20:36,466 --> 01:20:37,566 our student organization 702 01:20:37,866 --> 01:20:38,899 is really good at 703 01:20:38,899 --> 01:20:41,899 being like, I don't know, 704 01:20:41,899 --> 01:20:42,899 building each other up. 705 01:20:42,899 --> 01:20:44,466 We're not competitive with each other. 706 01:20:44,466 --> 01:20:45,699 We're all super, super 707 01:20:45,699 --> 01:20:46,600 helpful to each other. 708 01:20:47,433 --> 01:20:48,600 Like Steve was talking 709 01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:50,466 about the luncheons are, 710 01:20:50,833 --> 01:20:52,133 you can literally find an internship, 711 01:20:52,566 --> 01:20:53,399 going to the conferences, 712 01:20:54,100 --> 01:20:55,433 there are so many talks 713 01:20:55,433 --> 01:20:56,600 by different professors. 714 01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:57,800 If you were looking for a 715 01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:02,600 PhD person to be your PI, 716 01:21:02,833 --> 01:21:03,966 if you were to pursue a PhD, 717 01:21:04,633 --> 01:21:06,866 there's just that culture of support 718 01:21:07,500 --> 01:21:08,566 and that culture of like, 719 01:21:08,566 --> 01:21:09,800 we're all taking the same classes, 720 01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:10,466 we're all in this together. 721 01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:12,666 We're not competing for jobs. 722 01:21:13,300 --> 01:21:15,066 You can do anything with an MSE degree. 723 01:21:15,433 --> 01:21:16,399 There's no competition. 724 01:21:16,766 --> 01:21:18,766 There's no, we are 725 01:21:18,766 --> 01:21:20,566 competing for a grade or for a job. 726 01:21:20,766 --> 01:21:22,133 We're all just trying to help each other. 727 01:21:23,399 --> 01:21:24,300 And people, I guess, 728 01:21:24,300 --> 01:21:25,600 showing up to the MMS events 729 01:21:25,699 --> 01:21:27,266 is like kind of a way to do that. 730 01:21:27,699 --> 01:21:28,933 And so I think that's 731 01:21:28,933 --> 01:21:29,899 a super unique thing 732 01:21:29,899 --> 01:21:32,899 about our department that, yeah, 733 01:21:32,899 --> 01:21:35,399 is not the same as other student orgs 734 01:21:36,199 --> 01:21:37,366 at our school or other schools. 735 01:21:37,833 --> 01:21:39,333 - That's really great to hear from the 736 01:21:39,333 --> 01:21:40,166 student perspective. 737 01:21:40,166 --> 01:21:41,600 It's something that I want 738 01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:42,699 to believe that I'm seeing 739 01:21:42,699 --> 01:21:43,366 from the faculty 740 01:21:43,366 --> 01:21:46,266 perspective, but I want to see it. 741 01:21:46,500 --> 01:21:47,766 So is it real? 742 01:21:47,766 --> 01:21:48,399 It's really great to 743 01:21:48,399 --> 01:21:49,366 hear students feel like 744 01:21:49,699 --> 01:21:50,600 they're having that experience 745 01:21:50,866 --> 01:21:52,333 of we're building each other up together. 746 01:21:53,699 --> 01:21:55,866 - That's certainly one of 747 01:21:55,866 --> 01:21:57,533 my priorities when I teach 748 01:21:58,199 --> 01:22:00,466 is how to be as inclusive as possible. 749 01:22:00,733 --> 01:22:01,466 And the best way to 750 01:22:01,466 --> 01:22:03,399 be inclusive is to work 751 01:22:03,399 --> 01:22:04,333 with the students so 752 01:22:04,333 --> 01:22:05,166 they help each other. 753 01:22:05,366 --> 01:22:06,366 How can you get even 754 01:22:06,366 --> 01:22:07,500 more inclusive than that? 755 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:10,500 So it is awesome that all 756 01:22:10,500 --> 01:22:12,399 of our faculty are also, 757 01:22:13,866 --> 01:22:15,633 have all bought into this idea. 758 01:22:16,466 --> 01:22:17,533 We don't grade on curves. 759 01:22:17,699 --> 01:22:18,733 We want everybody to get 760 01:22:18,733 --> 01:22:20,566 an A if they possibly can. 761 01:22:21,199 --> 01:22:23,166 And so there shouldn't be any competition 762 01:22:23,399 --> 01:22:24,466 and it is really 763 01:22:24,466 --> 01:22:27,100 wonderful to hear from you 764 01:22:27,100 --> 01:22:27,766 that you don't feel 765 01:22:27,766 --> 01:22:28,699 like there's competition 766 01:22:28,866 --> 01:22:29,966 because there should not be 767 01:22:29,966 --> 01:22:32,199 competition in our program. 768 01:22:32,199 --> 01:22:35,100 This is all about helping everybody 769 01:22:35,566 --> 01:22:37,300 be the most they possibly can. 770 01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:38,199 - Absolutely. 771 01:22:38,466 --> 01:22:39,333 - Definitely not. 772 01:22:39,333 --> 01:22:40,133 It's so collaborative. 773 01:22:40,533 --> 01:22:41,866 Honestly, like MSE is like 774 01:22:41,866 --> 01:22:43,166 Michigan's best kept secret. 775 01:22:43,533 --> 01:22:45,766 Like people are so, so 776 01:22:45,766 --> 01:22:47,000 collaborative and so helpful 777 01:22:47,100 --> 01:22:47,766 and so friendly. 778 01:22:48,366 --> 01:22:49,600 The community is just, 779 01:22:50,399 --> 01:22:52,600 that is the best part about this 780 01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:53,566 department for sure. 781 01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:54,233 - All right. 782 01:22:54,233 --> 01:22:55,399 Well, hopefully we blow 783 01:22:55,399 --> 01:22:56,366 the lid off that secret 784 01:22:56,366 --> 01:22:58,399 and get some more faces around here. 785 01:22:59,899 --> 01:23:00,766 As we move into the 786 01:23:00,766 --> 01:23:01,666 second half of the show, 787 01:23:02,100 --> 01:23:03,766 I want to switch gears a little bit. 788 01:23:04,066 --> 01:23:04,766 Now that you are a 789 01:23:04,766 --> 01:23:05,866 person with experience, 790 01:23:06,066 --> 01:23:08,066 almost done with school, congratulations. 791 01:23:09,433 --> 01:23:10,566 You probably have some perspective 792 01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:11,766 on the last couple of 793 01:23:11,766 --> 01:23:13,166 years and what you've learned, 794 01:23:13,166 --> 01:23:14,666 but also I think there's 795 01:23:14,666 --> 01:23:15,633 some really good advice 796 01:23:16,199 --> 01:23:17,166 that you could have to 797 01:23:17,166 --> 01:23:18,566 offer different people 798 01:23:18,566 --> 01:23:20,033 in the audience just based on the 799 01:23:20,033 --> 01:23:20,966 experiences you've had. 800 01:23:21,366 --> 01:23:23,166 So first, we'll go straight 801 01:23:23,166 --> 01:23:24,699 to the most spicy question. 802 01:23:25,866 --> 01:23:26,899 Faculty are not always 803 01:23:26,899 --> 01:23:28,666 necessarily entirely aware 804 01:23:28,666 --> 01:23:29,933 of what student life and student 805 01:23:29,933 --> 01:23:31,033 perspective is like. 806 01:23:31,433 --> 01:23:32,966 So if you could choose just 807 01:23:32,966 --> 01:23:34,966 one message to get across, 808 01:23:34,966 --> 01:23:35,733 what's that one? 809 01:23:36,166 --> 01:23:38,100 I wish faculty knew that 810 01:23:38,100 --> 01:23:40,100 this aspect of student life 811 01:23:40,100 --> 01:23:41,133 is what it's like so that 812 01:23:41,133 --> 01:23:42,100 we can understand better 813 01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:43,566 what you're experiencing 814 01:23:43,566 --> 01:23:44,566 and where you're coming from. 815 01:23:45,899 --> 01:23:48,500 - I do think the biggest 816 01:23:48,500 --> 01:23:49,733 thing is I wish faculty 817 01:23:49,899 --> 01:23:51,166 kept the student 818 01:23:51,166 --> 01:23:52,766 perspective in mind when, 819 01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:55,833 designing curriculum, assigning homework. 820 01:23:56,766 --> 01:23:58,800 Students want things that 821 01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:01,199 will encourage them to learn. 822 01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:03,066 They want to feel like, 823 01:24:04,366 --> 01:24:05,000 you have to remember 824 01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:06,000 the reason they signed up 825 01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:07,066 for the class in the first place 826 01:24:07,166 --> 01:24:08,166 because they thought that 827 01:24:08,166 --> 01:24:09,366 this topic was interesting 828 01:24:09,566 --> 01:24:10,300 and they probably want 829 01:24:10,300 --> 01:24:11,166 to hear about the topic 830 01:24:11,166 --> 01:24:12,333 in the context of 831 01:24:12,333 --> 01:24:13,100 what they can do with it 832 01:24:13,100 --> 01:24:13,800 after they graduate. 833 01:24:14,500 --> 01:24:16,500 And they want to learn about the topic 834 01:24:17,166 --> 01:24:18,100 in the context of a 835 01:24:18,100 --> 01:24:19,399 really cool research paper 836 01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:21,766 or a really cool way you can apply it. 837 01:24:22,233 --> 01:24:23,466 That's maybe not something 838 01:24:23,466 --> 01:24:24,500 you would think of initially. 839 01:24:26,300 --> 01:24:27,333 And then that goes the same 840 01:24:27,333 --> 01:24:29,166 with homework and assignments. 841 01:24:29,866 --> 01:24:30,866 It's like everything 842 01:24:30,866 --> 01:24:31,899 should have a purpose. 843 01:24:32,666 --> 01:24:33,866 I think that's like the biggest thing. 844 01:24:33,866 --> 01:24:36,966 Like every group assignment, every like 845 01:24:36,966 --> 01:24:37,899 homework assignment, 846 01:24:37,899 --> 01:24:39,133 like the goal should be, 847 01:24:39,433 --> 01:24:40,300 I want them to learn 848 01:24:40,300 --> 01:24:41,566 this concept from this. 849 01:24:41,566 --> 01:24:42,000 I want them to 850 01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:43,766 understand like this aspect 851 01:24:43,933 --> 01:24:45,033 of group work from this. 852 01:24:45,533 --> 01:24:46,366 And I think like when you 853 01:24:46,366 --> 01:24:47,933 have a purpose like that 854 01:24:47,933 --> 01:24:49,000 to like what you're 855 01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:50,166 doing, what you're teaching, 856 01:24:51,366 --> 01:24:52,500 it's a lot easier to 857 01:24:52,500 --> 01:24:53,366 get the students excited 858 01:24:53,666 --> 01:24:55,066 about what you're teaching them 859 01:24:55,066 --> 01:24:56,399 and what you're assigning them to do 860 01:24:56,399 --> 01:24:58,566 because they can see beyond 861 01:24:58,566 --> 01:25:01,100 the grade, beyond the class. 862 01:25:02,533 --> 01:25:03,666 - That's wonderful. 863 01:25:05,399 --> 01:25:07,066 Takes me back to good old days 864 01:25:07,066 --> 01:25:08,800 of some of our physics problems of, 865 01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:09,399 now we're going to 866 01:25:09,399 --> 01:25:10,300 solve the hydrogen atom. 867 01:25:10,633 --> 01:25:10,899 Why? 868 01:25:11,366 --> 01:25:12,300 Because it can be done. 869 01:25:12,933 --> 01:25:14,366 And because I solved the hydrogen atom, 870 01:25:14,366 --> 01:25:15,300 so now you're going to 871 01:25:15,300 --> 01:25:16,433 solve the hydrogen atom. 872 01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:18,933 - Yes, but you're glad 873 01:25:18,933 --> 01:25:20,399 that they had you do that 874 01:25:20,399 --> 01:25:21,699 instead of the helium atom 875 01:25:21,699 --> 01:25:23,133 because that's very, 876 01:25:23,133 --> 01:25:24,733 very much harder to do. 877 01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:26,866 - Yeah, that's a story for another day. 878 01:25:26,866 --> 01:25:27,100 - Yes. 879 01:25:28,199 --> 01:25:30,133 - On the other side of 880 01:25:30,133 --> 01:25:31,966 the experience continuum, 881 01:25:33,033 --> 01:25:34,100 what would you say to like 882 01:25:34,100 --> 01:25:35,366 a freshman or a sophomore? 883 01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:35,966 You know, someone 884 01:25:35,966 --> 01:25:37,166 who's closer to the start 885 01:25:37,166 --> 01:25:39,033 of the college journey and 886 01:25:39,033 --> 01:25:41,366 it's the classic sort of, 887 01:25:41,366 --> 01:25:43,600 if you could talk to freshman you, right? 888 01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:44,733 What do you wish she had known 889 01:25:45,133 --> 01:25:46,300 that you could pass on to someone 890 01:25:46,300 --> 01:25:47,233 who's just getting started? 891 01:25:48,533 --> 01:25:50,766 - I think that freshman year, 892 01:25:51,366 --> 01:25:52,666 the most important thing is 893 01:25:52,666 --> 01:25:54,633 to take care of yourself first. 894 01:25:55,300 --> 01:25:56,100 Make sure that you're 895 01:25:56,100 --> 01:25:58,100 making time to do things 896 01:25:58,333 --> 01:25:59,699 that will keep you in check. 897 01:26:00,300 --> 01:26:02,533 Save time to study and to do your laundry 898 01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:05,333 and to make friends and 899 01:26:05,333 --> 01:26:06,433 don't overwhelm yourself. 900 01:26:06,433 --> 01:26:06,899 Don't feel like you 901 01:26:06,899 --> 01:26:08,066 have to do it all at once. 902 01:26:08,399 --> 01:26:08,966 And make sure you're 903 01:26:08,966 --> 01:26:10,033 keeping the end goal in mind. 904 01:26:10,899 --> 01:26:12,266 So like for me, I knew I really wanted 905 01:26:12,266 --> 01:26:13,300 to do research in college 906 01:26:13,699 --> 01:26:14,266 and that was something I 907 01:26:14,266 --> 01:26:15,466 knew I really wanted to do. 908 01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:18,066 And so I got involved in 909 01:26:18,066 --> 01:26:19,666 UROP and then I didn't love it. 910 01:26:19,666 --> 01:26:22,066 And then when I joined MSE, like I got 911 01:26:22,066 --> 01:26:22,766 involved in research 912 01:26:22,766 --> 01:26:25,300 but it wasn't like, I felt like I had 913 01:26:25,300 --> 01:26:26,500 to do everything all at once. 914 01:26:27,466 --> 01:26:29,699 I mean, I kind of did, but that mindset 915 01:26:29,699 --> 01:26:31,066 just like didn't help me. 916 01:26:31,466 --> 01:26:34,033 I felt like I was behind or like, 917 01:26:35,199 --> 01:26:36,533 I just had to do everything. 918 01:26:36,533 --> 01:26:37,066 It's not like high 919 01:26:37,066 --> 01:26:38,399 school, you can't do everything. 920 01:26:38,399 --> 01:26:39,266 Like it's much better 921 01:26:39,266 --> 01:26:40,366 to prioritize things 922 01:26:40,500 --> 01:26:42,333 that make you happy to make sure 923 01:26:42,333 --> 01:26:44,866 that you have like things in your life. 924 01:26:45,433 --> 01:26:47,300 Like everything has a specific thing 925 01:26:47,300 --> 01:26:47,866 you're leaning towards 926 01:26:47,866 --> 01:26:48,633 because college is 927 01:26:48,633 --> 01:26:49,766 again, not like high school. 928 01:26:50,500 --> 01:26:51,699 You can do everything. 929 01:26:52,100 --> 01:26:53,766 There's so many opportunities for you. 930 01:26:53,766 --> 01:26:54,566 So you really have to 931 01:26:54,566 --> 01:26:55,300 like be introspective 932 01:26:55,300 --> 01:26:56,833 and understand what's important to you 933 01:26:57,100 --> 01:26:59,433 and how to spend your time because yeah, 934 01:27:00,100 --> 01:27:02,266 like college can go by really fast. 935 01:27:02,266 --> 01:27:03,000 And so you need to know 936 01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:04,866 what skills you want to gain 937 01:27:04,866 --> 01:27:05,800 and what specific 938 01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:06,899 experiences are most important 939 01:27:06,899 --> 01:27:07,766 and prioritize those. 940 01:27:08,733 --> 01:27:09,433 - That's great advice. 941 01:27:09,433 --> 01:27:10,633 I should apply that to my own life. 942 01:27:10,899 --> 01:27:11,566 We'll see if that helps 943 01:27:11,566 --> 01:27:12,600 me out with a few things. 944 01:27:14,300 --> 01:27:15,366 - So I was wondering, 945 01:27:16,500 --> 01:27:17,566 I've been experimenting 946 01:27:17,566 --> 01:27:19,766 with using instructional aids 947 01:27:20,866 --> 01:27:24,399 and it's actually given me great insight 948 01:27:24,666 --> 01:27:26,166 into our undergrads 949 01:27:26,166 --> 01:27:28,233 because I get to experience them 950 01:27:28,233 --> 01:27:29,300 in a very different way 951 01:27:29,300 --> 01:27:30,533 than when they're in my class. 952 01:27:31,266 --> 01:27:32,000 And I've been 953 01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:36,199 absolutely amazed at how smart 954 01:27:36,966 --> 01:27:39,233 and how passionate our 955 01:27:39,233 --> 01:27:41,566 students are for material science. 956 01:27:42,333 --> 01:27:44,066 And I'd like to try to 957 01:27:44,066 --> 01:27:45,766 get more students involved 958 01:27:46,066 --> 01:27:47,366 in being in IA where we 959 01:27:47,366 --> 01:27:50,166 actually pay you 18 bucks an hour 960 01:27:50,333 --> 01:27:53,233 for doing something. 961 01:27:53,233 --> 01:27:53,866 It was probably the first 962 01:27:53,866 --> 01:27:56,899 time in these students' lives 963 01:27:57,566 --> 01:27:58,833 that they're actually getting paid 964 01:27:58,833 --> 01:28:00,500 for what we just taught them. 965 01:28:01,199 --> 01:28:02,300 So it's a little payback. 966 01:28:03,066 --> 01:28:05,600 And so does that sound like something? 967 01:28:06,066 --> 01:28:08,199 Am I only seeing a tiny 968 01:28:08,199 --> 01:28:11,199 part of the student body? 969 01:28:11,399 --> 01:28:13,266 Or is this something that students 970 01:28:13,266 --> 01:28:15,600 would like a wider access to? 971 01:28:16,133 --> 01:28:18,133 More students being able to do it? 972 01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:22,133 - I think, I guess first of all, 973 01:28:22,133 --> 01:28:23,033 I think instructional 974 01:28:23,033 --> 01:28:24,066 aids are a great way 975 01:28:24,166 --> 01:28:27,066 to get your students interested in MSE 976 01:28:27,266 --> 01:28:28,766 because like you said, 977 01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:30,100 these are the people that 978 01:28:30,100 --> 01:28:31,800 recently went through it. 979 01:28:32,233 --> 01:28:33,600 They're getting to very 980 01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:34,899 newly apply what they learned 981 01:28:35,100 --> 01:28:35,899 to teach others. 982 01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:38,033 And that's a good way to, 983 01:28:38,033 --> 01:28:39,300 I guess, get involvement 984 01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:40,733 or gain interest in the department. 985 01:28:41,500 --> 01:28:42,366 And then by extension, 986 01:28:42,366 --> 01:28:45,866 I think a lot of people who are my age, 987 01:28:45,866 --> 01:28:46,899 like upperclassmen, 988 01:28:47,399 --> 01:28:49,066 are excited to share their experiences 989 01:28:49,066 --> 01:28:50,066 with the underclassmen 990 01:28:50,066 --> 01:28:53,199 because we like our department. 991 01:28:53,500 --> 01:28:54,833 We are very proud to be 992 01:28:54,833 --> 01:28:55,600 part of the community. 993 01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:57,566 We like what we're learning. 994 01:28:57,566 --> 01:29:00,033 And so I think that is a fun experience. 995 01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:02,300 I'm an engineering 110 996 01:29:02,300 --> 01:29:03,199 department ambassador, 997 01:29:03,666 --> 01:29:04,600 which just means I 998 01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:05,566 teach a discussion section. 999 01:29:05,766 --> 01:29:07,366 And I feel like I get to do that. 1000 01:29:07,366 --> 01:29:08,966 And I love talking about MSE. 1001 01:29:09,733 --> 01:29:10,766 Like I joined the SWE 1002 01:29:10,766 --> 01:29:12,300 University Showcase Subcommittee 1003 01:29:13,066 --> 01:29:15,899 because I just wanted to represent MSE 1004 01:29:16,233 --> 01:29:17,399 to the high school students. 1005 01:29:17,733 --> 01:29:18,300 That's why I was 1006 01:29:18,300 --> 01:29:19,333 originally outreach chair. 1007 01:29:19,566 --> 01:29:21,100 Like I just liked doing outreach 1008 01:29:21,100 --> 01:29:22,300 and I feel like I've 1009 01:29:22,300 --> 01:29:23,366 heard a common sentiment 1010 01:29:23,966 --> 01:29:25,766 among a lot of other students. 1011 01:29:27,166 --> 01:29:28,966 - One of the other things 1012 01:29:28,966 --> 01:29:31,100 about the casting a wide net 1013 01:29:31,100 --> 01:29:32,100 for IAs that's so 1014 01:29:32,100 --> 01:29:33,066 important to remember is, 1015 01:29:33,666 --> 01:29:34,600 some students will 1016 01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:35,699 have this perspective of, 1017 01:29:35,699 --> 01:29:37,166 oh, I didn't get an A plus in the class. 1018 01:29:37,166 --> 01:29:38,100 I don't know anything. 1019 01:29:38,100 --> 01:29:39,866 I'm not qualified to do this. 1020 01:29:40,500 --> 01:29:42,466 And for us, on the 1021 01:29:42,466 --> 01:29:43,866 instructional side to say, 1022 01:29:44,066 --> 01:29:45,300 it's usually the B students 1023 01:29:45,300 --> 01:29:46,266 who are the best teachers, 1024 01:29:46,266 --> 01:29:47,199 they know the struggle. 1025 01:29:47,466 --> 01:29:48,100 They actually understand 1026 01:29:48,100 --> 01:29:49,166 why this stuff is hard. 1027 01:29:49,166 --> 01:29:50,433 They had to work for it. 1028 01:29:50,666 --> 01:29:52,000 That can really make a difference 1029 01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:52,866 when connecting with 1030 01:29:52,866 --> 01:29:53,866 someone who's trying to learn this 1031 01:29:53,866 --> 01:29:54,666 for the first time. 1032 01:29:55,466 --> 01:29:58,366 - I've had some of my best IAs 1033 01:29:58,533 --> 01:30:00,866 where B minus or even C plus students 1034 01:30:01,633 --> 01:30:03,166 because they really understood 1035 01:30:03,399 --> 01:30:04,166 what was difficult. 1036 01:30:05,133 --> 01:30:07,466 But, you know, A students are good too 1037 01:30:07,866 --> 01:30:09,600 because they know the material. 1038 01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:11,000 And I think it's good to have a mix 1039 01:30:11,766 --> 01:30:14,733 so that one IA isn't responsible 1040 01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:15,899 for just one set of 1041 01:30:15,899 --> 01:30:17,500 students, but we rotate around. 1042 01:30:18,533 --> 01:30:19,899 And they get to see, you know, 1043 01:30:20,666 --> 01:30:22,933 it's nice for the 1044 01:30:22,933 --> 01:30:24,033 students who are learning, 1045 01:30:24,699 --> 01:30:25,266 but I think it seemed 1046 01:30:25,266 --> 01:30:26,399 better for the students 1047 01:30:26,399 --> 01:30:27,366 who are the IAs 1048 01:30:27,366 --> 01:30:30,300 because they start to realize 1049 01:30:30,533 --> 01:30:32,366 that they actually know the material 1050 01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:34,399 in a deeper way than they 1051 01:30:34,399 --> 01:30:36,066 probably never even realized. 1052 01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:38,199 I didn't get that experience 1053 01:30:38,466 --> 01:30:40,733 until after I graduated from college. 1054 01:30:41,399 --> 01:30:43,833 I thought when I got my first job, oh no, 1055 01:30:43,833 --> 01:30:45,500 I'm gonna get my butt kicked. 1056 01:30:46,533 --> 01:30:48,766 And I go into my job and then I was just 1057 01:30:48,766 --> 01:30:50,766 unbelievably appalled 1058 01:30:50,766 --> 01:30:52,566 at how dumb the other people were. 1059 01:30:52,966 --> 01:30:54,100 And I'm like, oh wow, I must 1060 01:30:54,100 --> 01:30:55,699 have gotten a good education 1061 01:30:56,266 --> 01:30:57,366 because I wasn't any 1062 01:30:57,366 --> 01:30:58,500 smarter than those people, 1063 01:30:58,500 --> 01:30:59,866 but I was better prepared 1064 01:31:00,500 --> 01:31:02,199 because I went to a school that cared. 1065 01:31:02,966 --> 01:31:03,966 And so I think that 1066 01:31:03,966 --> 01:31:06,066 happens when people become IAs, 1067 01:31:06,266 --> 01:31:08,566 they become much more self-aware 1068 01:31:08,766 --> 01:31:10,399 that they really did 1069 01:31:10,399 --> 01:31:11,699 actually learn something. 1070 01:31:12,199 --> 01:31:13,500 And I think that's a 1071 01:31:13,500 --> 01:31:15,800 wonderful thing so much so 1072 01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:18,300 that I almost wonder if we 1073 01:31:18,300 --> 01:31:20,366 shouldn't be able to give 1074 01:31:20,366 --> 01:31:21,933 any student who wants to 1075 01:31:21,933 --> 01:31:23,766 have an activity like this 1076 01:31:24,133 --> 01:31:25,533 the opportunity to do it. 1077 01:31:25,533 --> 01:31:27,800 I don't think we need to mandate it, 1078 01:31:28,266 --> 01:31:30,399 but what you're saying being an 1079 01:31:30,399 --> 01:31:31,966 ambassador to Engine 110 1080 01:31:31,966 --> 01:31:33,300 or any of this, you'll get 1081 01:31:33,300 --> 01:31:35,166 the same experience that, 1082 01:31:35,166 --> 01:31:35,966 wow, I actually 1083 01:31:35,966 --> 01:31:37,233 understand some of this stuff. 1084 01:31:37,466 --> 01:31:39,699 I just think that's a very 1085 01:31:39,699 --> 01:31:41,500 important thing to happen 1086 01:31:41,766 --> 01:31:43,166 along your way while you're learning. 1087 01:31:44,066 --> 01:31:44,266 - Yep. 1088 01:31:45,066 --> 01:31:45,833 As long as we're 1089 01:31:45,833 --> 01:31:46,866 congratulating each other 1090 01:31:46,866 --> 01:31:47,633 on everything that we 1091 01:31:47,633 --> 01:31:48,733 know and have learned, 1092 01:31:50,233 --> 01:31:53,000 on the student org's front, Alexa, 1093 01:31:53,166 --> 01:31:54,000 you've, as you said, 1094 01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:55,666 learned a lot of things through trials 1095 01:31:55,666 --> 01:31:57,000 and tribulations of leadership. 1096 01:31:57,666 --> 01:31:58,600 But if there's someone 1097 01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:00,266 out there who maybe is at an 1098 01:32:00,266 --> 01:32:02,500 institution that doesn't have an MMS, 1099 01:32:02,866 --> 01:32:05,266 doesn't have a MSE student society, 1100 01:32:05,766 --> 01:32:07,300 what could you offer them 1101 01:32:07,300 --> 01:32:09,100 for tips, tricks, advice 1102 01:32:09,100 --> 01:32:10,800 to get something like that started? 1103 01:32:11,300 --> 01:32:12,100 If you wanted to build 1104 01:32:12,100 --> 01:32:13,100 this from the ground up, 1105 01:32:13,100 --> 01:32:14,266 how would you get students 1106 01:32:14,266 --> 01:32:15,533 to rally around the concept 1107 01:32:15,699 --> 01:32:16,699 and make it happen? 1108 01:32:17,199 --> 01:32:18,100 - I think a lot of the 1109 01:32:18,100 --> 01:32:19,966 reason that we can do what we do 1110 01:32:19,966 --> 01:32:20,733 is we have such 1111 01:32:20,733 --> 01:32:21,800 strong department support. 1112 01:32:22,233 --> 01:32:23,000 So I think the first thing 1113 01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:24,433 would be to figure out who 1114 01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:26,300 is on your side in your 1115 01:32:26,300 --> 01:32:27,333 corner and would support you 1116 01:32:27,366 --> 01:32:28,333 to do something like this. 1117 01:32:28,699 --> 01:32:29,699 Because we have Kristin 1118 01:32:29,699 --> 01:32:31,466 who helps us with picnics, 1119 01:32:31,466 --> 01:32:32,466 a lot of the department stuff. 1120 01:32:32,866 --> 01:32:35,199 Tim, obviously you're our advisor. 1121 01:32:36,866 --> 01:32:37,600 Obviously our department 1122 01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:38,500 chair came and spoke at our 1123 01:32:38,500 --> 01:32:40,466 luncheon, Patty helps reserve rooms, 1124 01:32:40,466 --> 01:32:41,699 which is so, so helpful. 1125 01:32:43,100 --> 01:32:45,300 Those types of connections are invaluable 1126 01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:46,966 for starting a student org. 1127 01:32:46,966 --> 01:32:48,000 So I think you need to 1128 01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:49,800 start talking to some of your 1129 01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:51,300 professors, seeing who would be 1130 01:32:51,300 --> 01:32:52,533 interested in helping 1131 01:32:52,699 --> 01:32:53,600 back you for this. 1132 01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:54,399 And then also we have a 1133 01:32:54,399 --> 01:32:55,866 pretty big presence at the 1134 01:32:55,899 --> 01:32:56,699 undergraduate committee 1135 01:32:56,699 --> 01:32:58,266 meetings, so we can advocate 1136 01:32:58,266 --> 01:32:59,966 for ourselves to the faculty. 1137 01:33:00,366 --> 01:33:01,000 And so having that 1138 01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:02,500 avenues first and foremost. 1139 01:33:03,366 --> 01:33:04,199 And then the second thing is 1140 01:33:04,199 --> 01:33:05,333 once you're actually starting 1141 01:33:05,333 --> 01:33:06,399 the student organization, I 1142 01:33:06,399 --> 01:33:07,466 think you have to actually 1143 01:33:07,466 --> 01:33:08,699 look for problems. 1144 01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:11,466 You have to look for 1145 01:33:11,466 --> 01:33:14,199 something where it's, you don't 1146 01:33:14,199 --> 01:33:16,000 realize like it's a huge 1147 01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:17,300 problem because you don't have it, 1148 01:33:17,300 --> 01:33:18,899 but you could see a need for it. 1149 01:33:18,899 --> 01:33:20,066 Like for example, my 1150 01:33:20,066 --> 01:33:21,366 junior year, I realized, 1151 01:33:22,199 --> 01:33:24,466 I was just thinking like about it by 1152 01:33:24,466 --> 01:33:25,266 talking to a lot of my 1153 01:33:25,266 --> 01:33:26,266 friends in engineering. 1154 01:33:26,533 --> 01:33:27,399 And I realized we were one 1155 01:33:27,399 --> 01:33:28,266 of the few departments that 1156 01:33:28,266 --> 01:33:29,133 doesn't have like 1157 01:33:29,133 --> 01:33:30,766 T-shirts for new declares. 1158 01:33:31,166 --> 01:33:33,166 And so like I emailed Katie 1159 01:33:33,166 --> 01:33:34,300 the next day and I was like, 1160 01:33:34,300 --> 01:33:34,899 can we do this? 1161 01:33:35,566 --> 01:33:36,600 And so now we have free 1162 01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:37,933 T-shirts for all like the new 1163 01:33:37,933 --> 01:33:38,733 declared students. 1164 01:33:39,133 --> 01:33:39,766 And like, that was the 1165 01:33:39,766 --> 01:33:40,600 same with like the MSE 1166 01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:41,433 undergraduate orientation. 1167 01:33:41,633 --> 01:33:43,366 I was like, we don't have a 1168 01:33:43,366 --> 01:33:45,533 way for like the sophomores to 1169 01:33:45,533 --> 01:33:46,633 meet each other really until 1170 01:33:46,633 --> 01:33:47,666 like junior year when they're 1171 01:33:47,666 --> 01:33:48,600 all in the same classes. 1172 01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:49,733 And so like, it was 1173 01:33:49,733 --> 01:33:50,833 something I was like, is this even 1174 01:33:50,866 --> 01:33:52,399 possible? I'm going to email people. 1175 01:33:52,399 --> 01:33:53,066 I'm going to see what happened. 1176 01:33:53,199 --> 01:33:54,466 Like for every situation 1177 01:33:54,466 --> 01:33:55,500 that I'm telling you to, 1178 01:33:55,500 --> 01:33:56,399 there were like three 1179 01:33:56,399 --> 01:33:58,300 situations that I thought there 1180 01:33:58,300 --> 01:33:59,300 was need for. And I tried, 1181 01:33:59,300 --> 01:33:59,899 but like I just 1182 01:33:59,899 --> 01:34:00,833 realized it wasn't feasible. 1183 01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:04,199 And so you just need to like, 1184 01:34:04,199 --> 01:34:05,000 really like not everything's 1185 01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:05,566 going to work out, 1186 01:34:05,566 --> 01:34:06,500 but like it's important to 1187 01:34:06,500 --> 01:34:08,533 kind of see what resources you 1188 01:34:08,566 --> 01:34:10,699 have, see who on your team 1189 01:34:10,699 --> 01:34:13,366 would support you in doing these 1190 01:34:13,366 --> 01:34:13,833 things. 1191 01:34:13,833 --> 01:34:15,800 Like I, before I do anything like this, 1192 01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:16,800 I bring it up to the board meeting. 1193 01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:17,300 I'm like, would people 1194 01:34:17,300 --> 01:34:18,133 be interested in this? 1195 01:34:18,133 --> 01:34:19,333 Would anyone be willing to help me? 1196 01:34:19,333 --> 01:34:19,833 Is anyone really 1197 01:34:19,833 --> 01:34:21,199 passionate about like starting this? 1198 01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:23,433 And again, 1199 01:34:23,433 --> 01:34:24,266 just realizing who's in 1200 01:34:24,266 --> 01:34:25,466 your corner because it's, 1201 01:34:25,833 --> 01:34:26,899 it's a lot of work. 1202 01:34:27,300 --> 01:34:28,266 You can't do it alone. 1203 01:34:30,133 --> 01:34:32,066 - That is great advice. 1204 01:34:33,300 --> 01:34:34,433 Steve, did you have any last 1205 01:34:34,433 --> 01:34:35,366 questions you wanted to ask 1206 01:34:35,433 --> 01:34:37,233 before we start to wrap things up? 1207 01:34:38,266 --> 01:34:41,300 - No, I, but what's, 1208 01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:42,566 I think I know some of 1209 01:34:42,566 --> 01:34:44,966 what's on tap for the rest of this 1210 01:34:44,966 --> 01:34:45,800 term, but what's going to 1211 01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:47,000 happen near the end of the term? 1212 01:34:47,233 --> 01:34:49,500 Any, any wild, crazy things to, 1213 01:34:50,566 --> 01:34:52,433 for the, your, your last. 1214 01:34:53,166 --> 01:34:54,100 - I would, 1215 01:34:54,100 --> 01:34:54,733 I would like to do some 1216 01:34:54,733 --> 01:34:56,033 sort of like graduation event, 1217 01:34:56,033 --> 01:34:58,500 like a graduation picnic or a seniors, 1218 01:34:59,766 --> 01:35:01,766 do some sort of like casting 1219 01:35:01,766 --> 01:35:04,000 or pictures or I don't know. 1220 01:35:04,233 --> 01:35:06,033 So that's kind of in the works, 1221 01:35:06,033 --> 01:35:07,399 but in terms of the rest of the semester, 1222 01:35:07,500 --> 01:35:09,399 we've got, you know, some social events, 1223 01:35:10,166 --> 01:35:11,500 obviously our industry tour. 1224 01:35:11,500 --> 01:35:14,166 We're doing our first ever MMS formal. 1225 01:35:14,766 --> 01:35:16,300 So that'll be really exciting. 1226 01:35:16,566 --> 01:35:17,300 - That's exciting. 1227 01:35:17,766 --> 01:35:19,399 - Yeah. It's, it's very exciting. 1228 01:35:20,233 --> 01:35:20,933 It's kind of like, 1229 01:35:20,933 --> 01:35:22,133 instead of the bar crawl, 1230 01:35:22,133 --> 01:35:23,266 this will be a way to like 1231 01:35:23,266 --> 01:35:24,966 include the underclassmen 1232 01:35:24,966 --> 01:35:25,666 because you don't have to 1233 01:35:25,666 --> 01:35:27,300 be 21 to go to a formal, 1234 01:35:27,566 --> 01:35:28,800 but you can still like have 1235 01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:30,466 fun and make a night out of it, 1236 01:35:30,466 --> 01:35:31,866 as opposed to a lot of the 1237 01:35:31,866 --> 01:35:32,899 other events we've been limited. 1238 01:35:34,533 --> 01:35:35,466 So that's really exciting. 1239 01:35:35,699 --> 01:35:37,633 And then obviously when it comes to 1240 01:35:37,633 --> 01:35:38,800 wrapping up my term as 1241 01:35:38,833 --> 01:35:40,566 president, I'm really, really, 1242 01:35:40,699 --> 01:35:41,466 really focused on 1243 01:35:41,466 --> 01:35:42,966 continuity of the organization. 1244 01:35:43,366 --> 01:35:46,000 So I'm going to have all of the board 1245 01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:47,500 members rewrite their 1246 01:35:47,566 --> 01:35:49,300 transition documents or at least add 1247 01:35:49,300 --> 01:35:51,166 things to update their 1248 01:35:51,199 --> 01:35:51,933 current positions, 1249 01:35:52,166 --> 01:35:53,233 because there's a lot of things in the 1250 01:35:53,233 --> 01:35:54,033 transition documents 1251 01:35:54,033 --> 01:35:55,366 that just don't really apply anymore. 1252 01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:57,866 We've all kind of taken our roles and 1253 01:35:57,866 --> 01:35:58,766 like added things to 1254 01:35:58,766 --> 01:35:59,566 them. Like for example, 1255 01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:01,833 Laura being outreach and doing merch, 1256 01:36:02,033 --> 01:36:03,066 that's not necessarily in 1257 01:36:03,066 --> 01:36:04,966 her role on the transition 1258 01:36:05,100 --> 01:36:05,966 document, but that's like a 1259 01:36:05,966 --> 01:36:07,000 really big part of her role. 1260 01:36:07,466 --> 01:36:08,300 And then like a lot of 1261 01:36:08,300 --> 01:36:09,266 things don't apply anymore. 1262 01:36:09,566 --> 01:36:11,133 So like right now the 1263 01:36:11,133 --> 01:36:12,166 treasurer is technically in, 1264 01:36:12,566 --> 01:36:13,600 technically in charge of 1265 01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:15,266 like napkins and plates, 1266 01:36:16,699 --> 01:36:18,066 but our secretary is in 1267 01:36:18,066 --> 01:36:19,000 charge of the silverware. 1268 01:36:19,266 --> 01:36:21,933 So Andy just does all of that anyway. 1269 01:36:22,166 --> 01:36:23,766 So we just, we really want to make sure 1270 01:36:23,766 --> 01:36:24,699 continuity is important. 1271 01:36:25,066 --> 01:36:25,766 I've been really trying 1272 01:36:25,766 --> 01:36:27,100 to do that just in general. 1273 01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:29,199 I've been taking notes at every luncheon 1274 01:36:29,199 --> 01:36:30,600 on how many people we have, 1275 01:36:30,833 --> 01:36:32,066 how much the food costs. 1276 01:36:32,466 --> 01:36:34,500 I've been writing down all the emails of 1277 01:36:34,500 --> 01:36:35,600 every single speaker, 1278 01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:37,000 the dates I contacted them, 1279 01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:38,466 the dates they got back to me and notes 1280 01:36:38,466 --> 01:36:39,600 on whether or not the speaker was 1281 01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:39,899 good, 1282 01:36:40,233 --> 01:36:41,266 which is something new I implemented 1283 01:36:41,266 --> 01:36:43,100 because I was looking back at Katie's 1284 01:36:43,100 --> 01:36:43,800 stuff and I was like, 1285 01:36:43,866 --> 01:36:45,466 there's nothing that says whether or not 1286 01:36:45,466 --> 01:36:46,533 these speakers were even good. 1287 01:36:47,166 --> 01:36:49,966 And I've got a lot of feedback that, oh, 1288 01:36:49,966 --> 01:36:51,233 this speaker wasn't that good. 1289 01:36:51,233 --> 01:36:52,300 And I'm like, oh my gosh, 1290 01:36:52,300 --> 01:36:54,266 like the next year's president would 1291 01:36:54,266 --> 01:36:55,366 probably want to know that, 1292 01:36:55,633 --> 01:36:56,733 like to not invite them back. 1293 01:36:57,100 --> 01:36:58,166 So yeah, 1294 01:36:58,166 --> 01:37:00,366 that's kind of my thought process when it 1295 01:37:00,366 --> 01:37:02,000 comes to wrapping everything up. 1296 01:37:02,333 --> 01:37:02,766 That's great. 1297 01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:05,899 And I just want to say how much I'm 1298 01:37:05,899 --> 01:37:07,933 impressed by what our students 1299 01:37:08,166 --> 01:37:08,966 do collectively. 1300 01:37:09,199 --> 01:37:10,266 Of course, it's you, 1301 01:37:10,266 --> 01:37:12,000 your board and all the other students. 1302 01:37:13,033 --> 01:37:15,166 Incredible imagination, 1303 01:37:15,666 --> 01:37:19,066 innovation and awesome organization. 1304 01:37:20,166 --> 01:37:20,833 And it keeps getting 1305 01:37:20,833 --> 01:37:21,966 better every single year. 1306 01:37:23,033 --> 01:37:23,899 And I think Tim 1307 01:37:23,899 --> 01:37:26,300 deserves some credit too for 1308 01:37:26,300 --> 01:37:27,100 very little. 1309 01:37:27,366 --> 01:37:28,500 Alexa's the heavy lift. 1310 01:37:28,966 --> 01:37:30,333 I'm just hiding in the background, 1311 01:37:30,866 --> 01:37:32,866 but it's really impressive 1312 01:37:32,866 --> 01:37:34,666 what you've been able to do. 1313 01:37:35,266 --> 01:37:35,466 And 1314 01:37:37,066 --> 01:37:38,966 hopefully potential employers, 1315 01:37:39,199 --> 01:37:40,699 people you're interested in working for 1316 01:37:40,699 --> 01:37:41,733 are going to listen to this. 1317 01:37:41,766 --> 01:37:44,000 And see how incredible you are. 1318 01:37:44,399 --> 01:37:45,399 Not only as a material 1319 01:37:45,399 --> 01:37:46,800 scientist and a researcher, 1320 01:37:47,399 --> 01:37:50,899 but as a organizer and somebody who 1321 01:37:50,899 --> 01:37:52,500 really knows how to get things done, 1322 01:37:52,500 --> 01:37:53,166 solve problems. 1323 01:37:53,699 --> 01:37:56,033 And that's worth a lot. 1324 01:37:56,366 --> 01:37:56,933 Thank you, Steve. 1325 01:37:57,399 --> 01:37:58,100 Yeah, couldn't say it 1326 01:37:58,100 --> 01:37:59,899 better myself on that note. 1327 01:38:00,300 --> 01:38:02,399 We always like to give our guests a 1328 01:38:02,399 --> 01:38:03,266 minute or two at the end, 1329 01:38:03,266 --> 01:38:05,300 just for shameless self-promotion. 1330 01:38:05,699 --> 01:38:06,366 So if you have anything 1331 01:38:06,366 --> 01:38:07,566 at all you want to plug, 1332 01:38:07,566 --> 01:38:08,266 whether it's 1333 01:38:08,266 --> 01:38:10,466 availability on the job market or 1334 01:38:11,100 --> 01:38:12,233 how amazing the MMS 1335 01:38:12,233 --> 01:38:13,266 formal is going to be, 1336 01:38:13,266 --> 01:38:13,899 whatever it is, 1337 01:38:13,899 --> 01:38:15,733 this is your chance to say what's 1338 01:38:15,733 --> 01:38:16,466 happening next and 1339 01:38:16,466 --> 01:38:17,300 what to look forward to. 1340 01:38:18,166 --> 01:38:20,333 I mean, of course, the MMS formal, 1341 01:38:20,733 --> 01:38:23,199 I would say in terms of job stuff, 1342 01:38:23,199 --> 01:38:24,166 I do have a job that 1343 01:38:24,166 --> 01:38:25,000 I'm planning on doing, 1344 01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:28,166 but obviously I have no idea where my 1345 01:38:28,166 --> 01:38:29,000 career is going to take me. 1346 01:38:29,300 --> 01:38:30,666 So I would say in 1347 01:38:30,666 --> 01:38:32,000 terms of self-promotion, 1348 01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:35,199 I think my personal best skills is I 1349 01:38:35,199 --> 01:38:36,666 really try to advocate for people. 1350 01:38:37,166 --> 01:38:39,466 I really care about understanding what it 1351 01:38:39,466 --> 01:38:40,533 is that people want. 1352 01:38:40,566 --> 01:38:42,566 And then advocating for it, 1353 01:38:43,066 --> 01:38:44,833 I consider myself like a problem solver 1354 01:38:44,833 --> 01:38:46,033 and someone who likes 1355 01:38:46,033 --> 01:38:46,966 to relate to others, 1356 01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:49,066 sees opportunities and then 1357 01:38:49,066 --> 01:38:50,699 tries to do something about it. 1358 01:38:51,033 --> 01:38:52,199 So I think that's my 1359 01:38:52,199 --> 01:38:53,699 my biggest self-plug. 1360 01:38:54,266 --> 01:38:57,000 But yeah, I'm graduating. 1361 01:38:57,433 --> 01:38:58,366 It's going to be crazy. 1362 01:38:59,066 --> 01:39:01,300 I'm excited and nervous 1363 01:39:01,300 --> 01:39:02,866 about what comes next. 1364 01:39:03,199 --> 01:39:05,600 But yeah, I'm really grateful to the 1365 01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:06,266 material science department. 1366 01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:09,300 And I feel really 1367 01:39:09,300 --> 01:39:11,100 proud to close this chapter 1368 01:39:11,166 --> 01:39:12,066 because I feel like I've 1369 01:39:12,066 --> 01:39:13,233 accomplished a lot in college 1370 01:39:13,433 --> 01:39:14,800 and I feel like I've grown a lot as a 1371 01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:17,466 person and I've learned a lot. 1372 01:39:17,466 --> 01:39:18,399 And I feel like I'm leaving 1373 01:39:18,399 --> 01:39:20,266 a mark on this department. 1374 01:39:20,500 --> 01:39:21,800 And I feel really proud of that, too. 1375 01:39:22,566 --> 01:39:23,699 I completely agree. 1376 01:39:23,899 --> 01:39:25,666 It's it will be sad to see you go, 1377 01:39:25,866 --> 01:39:28,300 but you've really built something 1378 01:39:28,300 --> 01:39:29,600 excellent with MMS the 1379 01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:30,466 last couple of years. 1380 01:39:30,466 --> 01:39:31,800 It's much stronger, I 1381 01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:32,800 feel, than it used to be. 1382 01:39:33,066 --> 01:39:34,866 So let's do a good job 1383 01:39:34,866 --> 01:39:36,266 with elections coming soon 1384 01:39:36,399 --> 01:39:37,933 and make sure the next batch of officers 1385 01:39:37,933 --> 01:39:39,600 keeps the, you know, 1386 01:39:40,100 --> 01:39:41,566 the train going and getting 1387 01:39:41,566 --> 01:39:43,066 even better than it already is. 1388 01:39:43,733 --> 01:39:46,100 Yeah. So thank you so much for being on 1389 01:39:46,100 --> 01:39:47,366 our podcast with us. 1390 01:39:47,933 --> 01:39:50,899 I've really enjoyed hearing hearing you 1391 01:39:50,899 --> 01:39:52,166 talk about all of this. 1392 01:39:52,166 --> 01:39:53,300 And it's just great. So 1393 01:39:53,300 --> 01:39:54,699 thank you very, very much. 1394 01:39:54,699 --> 01:39:55,466 Thank you very much. 1395 01:39:55,899 --> 01:39:57,366 Such a pleasure. All right. 1396 01:39:57,366 --> 01:39:57,766 All right. 1397 01:39:57,766 --> 01:39:58,966 Into the audience out there. 1398 01:39:58,966 --> 01:40:00,199 We'll see you next time on the next 1399 01:40:00,199 --> 01:40:01,833 episode of Undercooled.