Welcome to think bike, the podcast about all things motorcycle and the voice of motorcycle safety and awareness in Alberta. Your host is Leanne Langlois.

Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the last episode of season five on Think Bike, and I'm very grateful to have with me today as always Sean Conner, our vice president of AMSS, and Brynn Griffiths, our producer for Think Bike. Welcome back, boys.

Hey. Thank you.

Hello.

Just wanted to ask you guys, like, how was your summer? It feels like it was just yesterday. It was spring. Brynn, what'd you get up to?

Well, the big highlight for us was watching our 31 year old get married this summer, which was kinda fun. There was expense involved, but it was still well worth it. We we had a great time. I just enjoyed every minute of it. I will give a plug for the place too.

It's just West of Highway 2, West of Panoka and Mascochise, a place called The Valley. And it was just spectacular for a for a for a beautiful little wedding. And, so that was the highlight of my summer. And work wise, I was quite active, doing some stuff for Chorus Radio at Ched in Edmonton. And And then the

big news.

The big news is I I I was doing I was hosting the Euler pre and post game shows last season, decided it was time to start to touch the brakes a little bit. So I stepped back, and I'm not doing that this year. I'm getting back into doing my podcast business at Mighty Mouth. And the and I and I kicked things off with, starting off a website, which was brynngriffiths.com and still is. And I've, I'm just I think I'm gonna be very, very busy this winter.

So summer was kind of putting the ball on the tee. Now it's up to me here in the fall to hit the golf ball down the, fairway before the snow gets here.

Well, and spoiler alert, we're very excited to continue working with you for next year for season six.

Ditto.

Yeah. No. It's been fun. I know we've taught you a lot about the motorcycle world over five years. So

It's been great. I've really I've really enjoyed it. I've enjoyed the helpful hints. I don't ride, but it's good for me as a driver. We've talked about that every year.

I I've learned so much about what to watch out for now, and and I'm I'm amazed at how many times I see drivers in front of me. They don't see somebody coming blasting down one lane, and I go, what is Why aren't you seeing that? Well, it's because probably I've been listening to every story and every helpful hint that we've passed out here over five seasons. Five seasons.

I know. Yeah. Crazy.

I know.

Sean, what about you? How was your summer? I mean, I saw you quite a bit.

Well, I was gonna say there's two big highlights and you were there for both of them. So I think you know how lovely summer went.

Well, tell everybody else because I know, but they don't.

Oh, okay. Well, according to your rate, of course, July. That was always kinda nice. I think I'm gonna take a couple more days off next year. Enjoy the whole week instead instead of leaving Wednesday right after work and trying to get there as fast as I can.

And then, of course, going down to Bonneville Salt Flats to see you get your world record and just to hang out

just to hang out. Yeah.

Happened? Yeah. Just to hang out with all the Fizz Monkeys and stuff down there.

Well, and you missed last year, I think. Right?

I did. Yeah. I started a new job, so was really looking forward to this year.

That's it's always hard when you miss a year down there and then you get to see the whole Salty family again. But Yep. Glad to hear you're coming out a couple days early for the raid. I'll put you to work.

Yeah. Do do that.

Oh, that'd be awesome. I was joking, but now I'm not. Yeah. For me, same. I mean, like going like doing the raid in the summer, it's such a nice ride out to BC and spending a week in the Kootenays is always great on bikes with a 100 of your closest friends.

Know, it's we had mostly great weather except for that last twenty minutes coming into Canmore when we were on our way back. That was

Oh, yeah. Yeah. We That rain. That was cold.

Sean always rides back with me, Brynn, from BC and drops me off at Canmore and then continues on to Calgary. And we got caught in some really, like, downpour nonstop from just outside Banff all the way through to Canmore. It took all night for my stuff to dry out.

Sean, you can address this. You're in Calgary. We're both in Edmonton. I can tell you, I thought we had a crummy summer weather wise until early in August, and then and we've got a little, measuring device out in the backyard for precipitation. We went, like, six, almost seven weeks without any rain at all.

Like, it was just a crazy, crazy summer. But, hey, we just kinda ride along with it, so to speak. Right? We nothing we can do about it.

Yep.

Yeah. Yep. Similar here in Calgary. Yeah. The rain's always a little earlier in the season during the summer, and then it just dried out.

And and then it was kinda nice because there was a bunch of days in a row where it would just rain in the evening and just to water everything and make the yard look better.

We'd have killed for that. It just when the ground's starting to crack, you can see and you take a look at your lawn, you can see the ground starting to crack. You know, we need some precipitation. Doesn't matter how much you water your lawn or whatever, but I just wondered how that affected so many riders out there where it wasn't that great to start, but it was a great finish.

You know, it is what it is, and that's why God invented rain gear. You know True. So, it also, note self, helps when you wear it.

Yes. Before it starts raining.

Before it starts raining because, you know, rolling into Canmore and then dumping my boots out was super fun. And then, yeah, Sean kinda glossed over the the fourth ever Canadian, first ever female Canadian to get a world land speed record. Now just wanna clarify for anybody listening, this isn't the world land speed record. This is a world land speed record. There are about a thousand different classes out there that you can race in at the Bonneville Salt Flats.

And so I'm not sure what the three gentlemen got, before me and what class that they did their records and how fast they went, but mine is mine and I'm the first. And, it goes with my three national records. It's pretty cool. Had a little media blitz. Thank you.

Thank you.

A golf club for you there. That's excellent.

Golf club. Yeah. Done. Yes. Yeah.

It was exciting when I got home and that kind of broke out with a press release from the FIM folks. Yeah. It was it was cool. So go back next year and hopefully do it all again in a different class, and Sean should be there to watch again.

Yep. Yeah. I'm gonna yeah. This year, volunteered at a different location every day, which was nice. I got to see a bunch of stuff.

But I think starting was the best. There was three of us and the one guy with the flag and the one guy registering everything else. But I think I'm gonna get more involved in that part of it. That was more exciting because I got to see everybody.

You would be good there because you're a veteran season season's veteran season. A seasoned veteran down there now, and they depend on people who know what's going on. That, you know, another thing if people wanna get involved in track days or just track racing or anything like that, volunteer with your local organizations. And, know, you tend to get rewarded for that. I know with the EMRA up here in Edmonton, if you help out with their track days or their race rounds and flaggers in the corners and stuff, they'll give you free track time.

Really?

No no excuses. You can actually earn some track time. So anyway, enough about our summers, our summers. Let's talk about everybody else's summers and get the one thing that we love and hate talking about, the statistics for the 2025 season.

Rough year.

Not great. Yeah. We had a total of oh.

At the time of the taping, is early October the fifth.

Twenty one fatalities.

Wow. Okay.

Six in Calgary and seven in Edmonton. So thirteen of the twenty one in our two major cities, also one in Lethbridge. So the majority in the urban areas. Sean, thoughts? Because you're in Calgary, so you're six down there.

Like, what are you thinking?

Yeah. It's it's very sad. I kinda wanna say there was another one recently too that's not quite on this that list. So it might be seven and seven, unfortunately. Yeah.

I think hearing the news and then finding it trying to find the story, and, of course, social media just floods it all, and there's people reposting stuff and found a little thing on Reddit right after that one, that last one we talked about too, and just sort of how how it sort of happened or a witness saw it and kind of reposted it. And it's it's unfortunate, and I can't help thinking it's skill levels on both sides. Like, if it's a single vehicle accident, yeah, that's it's it wasn't weather and it wasn't this, it wasn't that, and it it I don't wanna say it was speed, but, you know, some of the stats are kind of pointing out it was speed related. And I can't help thinking that, you know, trying to find the stats of it and like the age of the person and the type of bike and, you know, just sort of like, ouch, that seems like a young guy on a sport bike kind of thing. I don't want to stereotype that because it's not.

And I know so many of those young riders that are so good, but there's a few, maybe there's a few more in that category, but it's tragic.

Yeah. We have like it's just looking at this, it really I haven't pulled the exact percentages yet, but it is looking pretty fifty fifty on the cruiser versus sport for for the year again. But like the youngest that we saw was like 19. Oh. In Edmonton.

And the oldest that we have that we've recorded was the 62 year old in Lethbridge. Yeah. A lot of it is speed. And so there's things that we're missing when we get these statistics and the reports that we see and that's are they a fully licensed rider and did they have training? And unfortunately privacy laws don't allow us to get into more than what is provided to us and hopefully in the future we can have a stronger relationship with the levels of government in Alberta municipal and provincial to really dig in and tackle these problems because when more than 80% are still rider error, like out of all of them that we could find, only two were driver error, alleged driver error out of the 21.

And that is in itself a major problem. Like Brynn, you don't ride, so you have a different opinion on this. What are some things that you think we could do to start curbing the fact that the majority of these are rider error?

Well, okay. Let me look at it from a vehicle driving perspective first and foremost. Over the last few years, we've talked about those dreaded left hand turns that a vehicle might make where they misjudge on the speed of, of the motorcycle coming towards them. I think we've started to get that message out a little bit, a lot better. I hear more people saying, yeah.

You know what? When I make left hand turns now, I'm far more aware of motorcyclists. That's a win. Unfortunately, now this year, it seems like there's far less, motor vehicles involved. It's it's basically a motorcycle or or a or a rider error.

So, obviously, we've gotta pick up our game a little bit with things like this podcast. We need the provincial government to start kinda step it up a little bit to help us get the word out. I'm I'm just looking at it from a general perspective, but I I think the drivers might might be figuring it out faster than those who are who are riding. And and if speed's a factor, I'm really not sure how you correct that. Because one of the things that I talk I've got a lot of friends who ride motorbikes, and you know what they love?

The speed. Right? The speed and the fact that you're out there and you can feel the air on your face and and so I I don't know how you correct that, how you fix that, but that one's kinda I'm leaving that up to you too because I just I'm kind of at a loss for words in that department. And that doesn't happen often. Is Right?

Okay.

I think with missing the two factors of is somebody actually licensed and did they take training? Is a factor and why we can't really pinpoint the trends and why they're happening. Sean knows that when I started this whole thing, then the intention was never really to lobby hard for any type of like restrictive legislation. Like in Saskatchewan, every new rider has to wear a specific gear for I think it's three years or something. So a new rider has to have at least a three quarter helmet, has to be wearing gear.

And so they're legislated in the gear requirements and I still am like, well you're an adult, you can make adult decisions on that. Wearing gear doesn't fix a speeding problem. Having a 19 year old on a high powered sport bike or a brand new rider regardless of age on a high powered motorcycle, that's a different story that might not be fully trained. Sean, what are your thoughts?

I I think it's more we need more outlets. Like, listening to some of the previous podcasts were track days, and I don't think the track is open here in Calgary. They're the one just North of Calgary here yet. I think it is, but maybe not to the public. There's a little go kart track and just the side of Strathmore, and I think they do have one night week, I think it was, where you can go out, but it had to be a smaller bike and stuff.

But it was still fun tight track. I think it's a little tighter than the nature trail that we went to in Missoula, but the I think it's outlet and training. You're some of the podcasts earlier, you're talking about some of the schools that were closing in Edmonton. And then in Calgary, there's a couple smaller ones that popped up. And, course, Too Cool For School's been around forever, and they've got lots of trainers and stuff so it's a bigger school and it's easier to get into that one.

But yeah, think training an outlet for a track or something would be nice.

Yeah and being down to only one school in Edmonton is not great. There's a couple in Red Deer, so that's not far away and then of course Too Cool in Calgary, partner of ours. Anytime anybody's asking about motorcycle training and I can't get into the one in Edmonton, well hey, why don't you make a weekend out of it and go down to Calgary? But not everybody can afford that on top of the cost of the course itself. So how do we make training more accessible?

How do we increase training in Edmonton? And possibly our friend Leroy Victor with Moto Instincts might be an option for that if the province could recognize what he's doing as a legitimate course in Edmonton because he's not the standard cookie cutter motorcycle rider training course that is what the province has for all the licensed schools. He's outside of the box and puts a lot more psychology into it and everybody that he's worked with up here and I'll just say this for the record, he's not charging people for lessons because he can't, he's not an instructor. He's renting a motorcycle out to new riders who need a bike to do like the road test and coaching and mentoring them And type of those people just reading what he has done with their kind of posting about, oh, I worked with Leroy at Moto Instincts and what he can do with people in a short period of time. Like it should be recognized and maybe we need to evolve the rider training courses.

Time Yeah. For an update on some of it.

Yeah, it's old legislation or old preferred courses or whatever you want to call it but I think that at the end of the day, I think I said something when I was talking to one of the radio stations in Calgary when we were at the Salt Flats because you had a 20 year old that had passed away on his motorcycle while we were there. And I said, you know, it's about time that the mayors of the two big cities, the chiefs of the two big cities of police and the province and us sit down at a table together and try and figure this out because I mean, 21 out of the tens of thousands of registered riders is a small percentage, but it's not getting better and it's getting worse in the cities and how do we fix that and how can we try and mitigate. Vision Zero is in my thing not a reality in my world. We're never gonna not have fatalities on the roads. Things happen.

But how do we mitigate it to be the least amount of numbers possible without being overbearing with restrictions of legislation.

Also, people like don't like being told what to do. Right?

Exactly.

Okay. So so there's that. So so all the programs can be put into place, but at the end of the day, it boils down to one person. And that's the rider who's got to be absolutely convinced that they can get better. Right?

Like, as a broadcaster, I always feel I can be better tomorrow than I was today, and I've only been doing it for thirty five years. If I was riding for thirty five years, I'd wanna be better tomorrow than I was today. And people have to it's attitudes, and there's a cockiness and an arrogance some people have where they just don't think they have to be better tomorrow. And I think that's a very dangerous attitude to have. Just me saying it.

K?

It is. It is. I mean, there's things that you should always be wanting to learn to grow and be a better version of yourself than you were the day before. And there's a way to do it that's smart and strategic and it actually helps you grow your skills and there's other ways that it gets you dead. And if you want to be bigger, faster, popping wheelies, stunting, whatever because your buddies do it, you don't have the skills yet, and your buddies are pushing you, get new buddies because I'm gonna guarantee you your mother doesn't wanna bury you early because you need her to keep up.

And the other thing we have to point out here is that we don't know the complete story. This is one of the things I you know, in the newsroom, we learn very quickly. It's hard to report on a story when you only get a certain amount of the information. So we don't know what kind of drivers they were. Right?

We don't know what kind of motorcyclists they were, whoever. The key for us is to, to send our thoughts out to everybody because

Absolutely.

When we lose that many people in the province, it's sad. You're right. The the number, the percentage is low comparatively speaking, but it's still far too many. Yep. Yep.

So

Yep. And one is too many for us. Yeah. I mean, if we only had one in a year, I think we're celebrating having such a low number while at the same time again sending our condolences out to that that friends and family group because they have lost a person and we have we've talked to people in our podcast who have lost people. It's not great.

And, you know, all we wanna do is reduce that hurt and that pain and have people understand it affects more than just you if you're gone.

I don't wanna change the the topic away from this because it's serious stuff. But I will say this. The one thing out of this season that I really liked was the fact that while we did a great job, I think, of expressing what people can do to be better from a safety perspective, I think you had some incredible stories on this season of of people and their perseverance after an accident or or how they've managed to get through. I I just I thought the season had pretty much had it all.

So let's jump into that because I wanna see what you guys think are your top three episodes. Sean, let's start with you. What do you think were your top it's hard to for me, I can't pick three.

I I I picked five. I I had five.

You had five? Yeah. I had about five as

well. Yeah.

I'm gonna start with Gray. I'm going in up the dumpster there to Tuk Tuk Tuk, of course. We're really good friends. So it was nice to to hear him on the podcast and talk about it. And, yeah, I've talked to Chris too that was came back just before him.

Yeah. I was at Graham's last weekend for dinner, and we talked a bit more. I got a little more details on some of the adventures that he was on. So it was kinda nice to follow-up on that.

Damn it. I took that one too. That's okay. I'll mark that one off my list here. Got it.

Yeah. That was that was a great episode. I loved it too. I love the adventure stories.

Yeah. It's Ventress are fun for sure. And it's it's that nice mix in there of, like, Renato is, like, talking about serious stuff. It's like, what kind of adventures are people having, and how can you stay safe in those adventures? You know?

Yeah. Do you want me to

go with one? Back to safety.

Do want me to here. I'll I'll pick one here. I I don't know if anybody picked this one, but I I really enjoyed it. It was a so your kid your kiddo wants to race, and I thought it was a very enlightening one. And I thought that is a great topic because so many parents gotta see their young kids wanna get on a motorbike.

And how do you do it? How do you encourage them to follow their dreams, but how do you encourage them to make sure that they don't skip over all these safety steps? And I just thought it was a great episode.

Yeah. No. That that was I mean, to have well, Chris Barnes has a history with teaching motorcycle learn to ride courses, him and his wife. Yeah. And so Maya really didn't stand a chance.

I mean, came out of literally came out of the womb and was put on a bike, not as on her own, but as a passenger when she was old enough to do so and took to it and works at a local shop in Calgary and like bike life is bike life for her. So to have parents who are, you know, very in tune with how to do this the right way, but still giving her some freedom Yeah. Is you know, it's still her choice. It's still when does she wanna go on, you know, out, you know, and and not overbearing is I think such a great way to do it.

I think I only saw eyes roll into the back of somebody's head twice on that episode because we we this is an audio podcast, but we we get a chance to see people when they're talking and to have both of them, it was quite entertaining for me.

And a cat walking across the street.

Forgot about that one. Yeah. I totally forgot about that.

The things we get to see when we're when we're on the video side of it. Okay. My oh, I'd like sorry. I have five and I can't. I cannot

That's okay.

Get it down. Do you guys have any others before I go into my list?

Let me throw another one out while I'm waiting, and then we can let Sean roll. But the we also talked to a good friend of ours, Marty Forbes, about the seniors' perspective. And I loved it because I, you know, I I just think that so often I I'm gonna say guys because, obviously, I am one. When you hit 60, you still think you're 40 in a lot of ways, and you're 60. And sometimes I think you just gotta remember that your reaction speed is not the way it used to be.

There's a lot you could ride maybe for ten or fifteen minutes now, and it can feel like it was 600 kilometers. The the muscles get more sore. Everything. I just thought Marty did a great job of summing up some of the challenges that that he's been having since he's been aging, and we all age. And I just thought it was a great episode.

And knowing when to hang it up.

Yes. Yeah. At some point, it's all good things come to an end. Right? Yep.

So

Yep. Absolutely. Sean, back to you. What's another one that you liked?

One of the interesting ones to me was about the hearing with, Carrie White Yes. Yep. Gerberger. I can't I forgot her last name already. No.

That was really interesting because I'm on a quest for the the best earplugs, and I've tried a dozen of them. I think one of my favorites were the injected molding ones, but I've since lost them two years ago. I signed for another pair. But just listening to that and and your conversation with her about concerts and stuff, and it was like, oh, yeah. Yeah.

Oh, I've done that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Walking out of a Motorhead concert, and my couldn't ears were ringing for four days after that and couldn't hear a thing, and just sort of the stupid thing. Walkmans came out when I was younger and just cranked them all the time.

What's a Walkman? Walkman. Wow. Well, exactly. But now the now the phone tells you, oh, you've been listening to that this level for too long.

Like, you should turn it down. I'm like, oh, thanks. Yeah. You're probably right, but still. Yeah.

Might have done damage.

For the young kids out there, Walkmans are things that cassette tapes went into.

Like little pod well, they didn't call them what'd they call them? The apple came out. It was really tiny. It was like

a The

shuffle the iPod. IPod shuffle. Oh, yeah. There's another

I've got one of every model, I think, here.

Oh, god. I mean, we could do a whole episode on this technology that kids don't know. I mean, corded phones. What? Who?

K. So I'm gonna start with inspirational stories like Randy Weidler riding as an amputee. You know, of course his collision or had nothing to do with motorcycles. It was in his Jeep. To, as he calls him, become two stumps because he was below knee amputee on both legs from that collision, found a way to get back on a bike and not really heavily modified and had the drive to want to continue to ride.

So having those inspirational stories are great. And conversely, again, kind of when your limits have been hit due to collisions, whether they're your fault

or

not, Doug's story a few weeks ago of when things go wrong. And this goes again with Dick listening to your body and I mean, he had a seizure and this was something that came on later in his life and understanding how that affects you thinking everything's great. And unfortunately it wasn't and crashed on his bike while having a seizure after they thought they had settled everything with seizure meds and, you know, lost the use of his one arm and is working towards rehabbing, but said he'll never get on a bike again. And that's out of respect for his wife. And that's after a long life of riding bikes, like super passionate about motorcycles.

And you know, it's being realistic about what things are. To light things up, well not really light things up a bit, then you have the other side of it with so you want a leader bike.

Yeah. You know, with with Leroy.

Yeah. With Leroy Baggins. That's his stage name. He outed his his real name in the episode by accident. But he, you know

So you outed the fact that he outed himself, so now everybody's gonna go back and listen

to that episode.

Listen to

it and find out his real

name. Nice.

I mean,

why not? And I had I got the opportunity to meet him a few times when I went out to the track this year to support the EMRA and our our road racers. And he came running over and gave me a big hug and it was really good to meet him in person and have a conversation and really, you know, talk about it. He's so excited. He just last time I saw him, he just had I think one of the last surgeries that he had to have from his incident out in BC for his crash and is really excited to get back on the track next year.

He was doing track days a lot this year and then the surgery took him out for the last bit, but you can't get the guy off the track and he might try road again, but you know, it's the track and that it gets addictive and hey, if you want the need for speed, do it there. One of my other favorites gave, I think, Brynn the the quote of the quote of the season for him, the Cannonball Run with Jody Perewitz, longtime friend of mine and contender comment. You do a better accent than I do.

I had such a great, Bostonian accent. I'm trying to remember what the line was.

Oh, it was I was asking her about her racing on the circle track with the guys and you know, she's out there with the guys and like how how she does that there and she said she she was a contender but

Oh, you do it

when was a get contender.

Yes. Was a contender, not a pretender.

It was so great to catch up with her and just unique different ways of motorcycling around the world and different tracks that we hadn't talked about. And the last one for me, I mean, I love all our guests and please don't think that just because we don't give you a special shout out that I don't thank all of you for being on here because you all have brought something. But to end the season with Bronte was a highlight for me because she is a force in the road racing world in Canada and doing things that not a lot of Canadian women are doing on motorcycles and I relate to that. But she's got big dreams and big goals and you know, first woman to do this and first or second woman to do that in the road racing circuit in Canada, trying to get on this new women's thing that's going on that's worldwide. Yeah.

She's nine years from when she got on a bike to being like a high competitor, high level competitor in road racing. Again, knocking out those gender barriers, like hanging there right with the top guys in our region and at the CBSK. You know?

Totally agree. She it was a great it was a great episode I thought. If only she had more energy.

Right?

She just seemed to be lacking something.

You know, the funny thing that I thought about after that episode and then I listened back to it on the on the playback, I was told by her husband Brad and a few other people and Bronte herself, she may drop an f bomb here or there and not one.

It's been done before on this podcast but not very often.

Not very but she was it was supposed to happen with her and like not one and I was I was waiting for it but it never happened. But yeah, mean, it's been it's been a great season. I've already got some people lining up for next year.

Already.

Season six. Yeah. Yeah. You just Stories we just can get to this year.

You just let the feline out of the satchel. We are coming back for a second or is this it's it's hard to believe that we're coming back for a sixth season?

I know. Nice. I know. How can we not? How can we not?

And I mean, Sean's busy down in Calgary sussing out stories for me too. And we're gonna have one of the one of the ones I I will say, but I'm not gonna go into details is one of our board members, Adam Calverin out of Calgary had an incident on his motorcycle out in the country. And he's got a lot of lessons from that and right after it happened, he texted me and just said, so this happened and I need to be on the podcast next year.

There you go.

To talk about it because there's lessons that were learned. Most importantly, GPS tracking. Sean, there's a reason why I have your dot. Yeah.

Alright. I'll turn that back on.

Yes. Thank you. Things happen. Right? But yeah, so we're going to come back for season six.

If anybody has any great stories of adventure, anything else like whether you were in a collision, went traveling in some weird place and something happened and you want people to know about it or you know, and had the absolute misfortune of losing somebody on a motorcycle and you want to share the story and think that it might help others, inspire others, encourage others, or again, yeah, help others get through something difficult, reach out info@ab-amss.org. I see Brynn nodding in my screen. He's like turned me into quite the little podcast.

I'm so impressed because in season one, I would have done that. I would have had to tell everybody how to get ahold of you, and now you're you're doing a great job with it. Hey. The other thing too, we had somebody helping us with tips this year that we we added. This was a feature that we added on this season, and and I loved it.

I thought it was great. He also gave us another voice, and I thought it was fantastic.

Yeah. I mean, the mailbag is great, but adding in a mixed bag this year and going from mailbag to tips to mailbag to tips, I loved having another voice come on for the end to end. Again, our friend Leroy Victor at Moto Instincts, big shout out to him for all of the tips that he did. So we do 26 episodes and he gave us 13 tips and it works out absolutely perfect. And I look forward to talking with him to see how we can continue to do that.

You know, we're not getting rid of the mailbag, it's just, you know, it's nice to have that other voice and that guy that's put in lot of effort into a motorcycle program. Sean, what did you think of the of Leroy's contributions?

Very helpful. I I would like to go and meet him and talk to him personally. And I I I wanna free up more time and get into what he's doing because it sounds not just maybe advanced writing or anything, but just the psychology behind it's fascinating to me now that I'm maybe a little little older and had a few incidents. Now I wanna sort of pick his brain and, like, what am I doing wrong here? Like, I used to do this, and now it's he's the guy to talk to.

Well, next time you're up here or you're planning to come up here or one of the times you're up here, let me know ahead of time and maybe I can arrange for the three of us to go for dinner or something. Yeah. You know? And you can meet him. He's a he's he's wonderful.

We're both so busy in the summer that we kept planning to get together and everything. And then I sent him a meme the other day saying to all those people that I said, I'll get together with you this summer. I'll see you next year. But I mean, we have the winter and stuff like that. And then with that, I'd love to try and tie him into some things that we're doing next year just for everybody to know what's on the schedule.

So we are coming back with For the Love of Motorcycles again in 2026. It will be June 27 out of Blackjacks once again. And we're looking forward to seeing everybody there. I'm really hoping we have better weather next year again. I mean, in the years that we've been doing it, we only had one year of bad weather.

So

Hey. One other thing we gotta talk about, and that is that through the winter months, we obviously are not producing new podcasts. I wanna highly encourage everybody if you wanna know more about how to make sure that your machine is working, properly heading into the winter season that and all through the previous five seasons, we've done winterization tips. Yep. We've done safety tips about, you know, icy road conditions, that kind of thing.

So we may not have addressed it as we came down the home stretch here this season, we've but done it on some of our past episodes. And I know people love to go back when they when it when it comes to podcasts. They like to go back and listen to some other episodes. So I highly recommend that you, have some fun this winter when you're snowed in. And, here in Alberta, that will happen at some point, that you go back and listen to some of the episodes we did in the past.

Well, and they're great lengths, like being twenty to thirty five minutes. I think we had maybe one that hit 40. This one might hit that.

We're getting there.

Yeah. But, you know, it's it is something that's great to kill time and and learn and also help us and share. Share your favorite episodes with your friends on social media. Yeah. Sean, do you have any closing thoughts before I close this out for the year?

No. But your talk about the end of the season is making me depressed. So I think we've

got Sorry about that.

I think I've got, like, a couple more weeks left here in Calgary to enjoy it before I start winterizing the bikes.

Yeah. I put mine away.

Yeah. You said that.

Well, hang in there, you

two. Sad.

Yeah. We might need you to check-in on us,

have to do that.

We we might not do well.

Thanks for having me on board with everybody. It's been a pleasure working with both of you again. And, some great stories, some fun stories, and some really tough stories this past season. And, that's what that's what makes the the episode so special for me. We've been very, very unique in how we've gone after everything.

And and to have people share the stories they have been sharing with us, tip of the cap to people. It's it's I don't know how they some people get through the stories they've told us this past season, and, I'm inspired. I'm inspired, and I'm you know, like, I only drive a car, but I I'm learning so much just from listening to the podcast. So thanks, you two for having me involved again.

Oh, I couldn't do this without you, Britney. You've been with us since day one, you know, like literally day one.

Day one. Yeah.

Marty roped in ten years ago. And

And I've loved every minute of it. It's been it's been great. Thank you.

Yeah. I it is. It is. It's been amazing. So I guess we're going to see everybody.

I think first at the Calgary bike show, January 30 to February 1. That's the Moto Canada power sports show. So hopefully we'll see everybody down there in Calgary. Yes, they're not doing another one in Edmonton again this year and that is a choice that they've made to go down to one show in Alberta instead of having two. But we will see everybody hopefully at the YEG show is coming back.

The YEG Bike Show April. That will be just before season six starts rolling again. So I just wanted to get those two events out there. And I look forward to doing some off season recording with Brynn and, you know, getting our guests lined up. And, oh my god.

Winter. Catch up on the old episodes, people. If you got anything that you need to to give us, just reach out info@ab-amss.org or, you know, connect on the socials. Happy end of season five, everybody.