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Maarten.

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goed?

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prima!

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gesprek

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Nederlandse

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literatuur.

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waren

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klassiekers

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precies!

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dramatisch.

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beetje.

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Douwes

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naam.

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Multatuli

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pseudoniem.

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Havelaar,

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toch?

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Verplichte

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middelbare

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school.

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Klopt.

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tijd

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ongelofelijk

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vernieuwend.

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directe

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maatschappijkritiek

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Nederlandse

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koloniale

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systeem

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ongehoord.

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voorstellen.

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zoiets

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schrijven

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bedrijf,

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krijg

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advocaten

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Laat

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Precies.

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Het

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enorm

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controversieel.

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Hij

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schopte

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tegen

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heilige

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huisjes.

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Zijn

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stijl

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heel

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onconventioneel

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voor

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doel

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ermee,

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denk

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je?

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Behalve

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gewoon

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boos

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zijn?

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Hij

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zeer

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geëngageerd

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schrijver.

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wilde

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verandering.

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Mocht

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boek

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negeren,

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zijn

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gemaakt.

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nalatenschap

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gigantisch.

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duidelijk.

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kost.

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invloedrijke

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schrijver:

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Schmidt.

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andere

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uiterste?

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favoriet.

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tegen

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betutteling

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burgerlijkheid.

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Haar

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vrijgevochten.

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lekker

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gedichten

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verhalen

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voelen

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steeds

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modern.

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Echt

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tijdloos.

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Absoluut.

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misschien

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niet

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politiek

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Multatuli,

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maar

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haar

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invloed

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kinderen

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opvoeden

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autoriteit

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aankijken

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misschien

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geweest.

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Misschien

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Spreken

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Hoi.